1/4 The Secret World Of Lewis Carroll
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- Опубликовано: 5 мар 2015
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First broadcast: Jan.2015.
Generations of adults and children alike?
To mark the 150th anniversary of its publication, this documentary explores the life and imagination of the man who wrote it, the Reverend Charles Dodgson, better known as Lewis Carroll. Broadcaster and journalist Martha Kearney delves into the biographies of both Carroll himself and of the young girl, Alice Liddell, who inspired his most famous creation.
Kearney's lifelong passion for Carroll's work began as a young girl, when she starred as Carroll's heroine Alice in her local village play. She discusses the book with a range of experts, biographers and distinguished cultural figures - from the actor Richard E Grant to children's author Philip Pullman - and explores with them the mystery of how a retiring, buttoned-up and meticulous mathematics don, who spent almost his entire life within the cloistered confines of Christ Church Oxford, was able to capture the world of childhood in such a captivating way.
The girl who put her hand up and said "it's good" said it in a such a convincing and matter of fact way! Bless her!
lol, its all you need to know!
One of the very funniest episodes involving "Alice" was that Queen Victoria, having read the book to her children (and having apparently screamed with laughter - she particularly liked the Queen in Alice shouting, "Off with her head!", perhaps not realising that the stocky, po-faced, cantankerous creature was loosely modelled on herself!) wrote to Dodgson asking that he dedicate his next book to her. She recorded her utter perplexity and bewilderment when the tome duly arrived at Windsor and was found to be a more than usually dry treatise on algebra...
see. I never knew this. wow.
Totally false! Lewis Carroll/Charles Dodgson himself said it never happened, period! Dodgson did give an autographed copy of AW to one of the Queen's daughters. Also this whole doc has been repudiated by Carroll scholars when it tries to attribute a naked photo of Lorina Liddell to him. Not only did he NOT take the photo, but the teen in the photo is NOT Lorina either!!!! Carroll took a total of 30 nudes out of over 3,000 photos. They were homages to great works of art, heavily over painted, showed no genitalia, and even by Victorian standards, were mundane. Jullia Margaret Cameron, considered the greatest female pbotgrapher of the time, took many more child nudes than Dodgson. They also were very artistic, and can be found in poster shops everywhere!!!!
I found it hilarious the wizard of Oz killed Kennedy...
@@saskoilersfan WTF?
Classic Carroll humour
again and again
i cannot thank you
enough
Alice in wondeland is one of those stories that stay in your subconscious
Like Dorothy and wizard of Oz killed Kennedy..
Genius. One of the greatest in English Literature.
I respect the book but I am disgusted by the man
He don't like you either.
What he do?
When did you ever meet him?
The picture of Alice kissing Lewis turned out to be a fake. Alice seemed to be cropped from a previous photograph.
There were a number of fakes.
I am obsessed with Alice in wonderland. I love it I love the accent by the way.. I do have english ancestors and so forth but I just love the accent so much
Alice, Edith and Lorina
Playlist : ruclips.net/video/bXeW2ixpfoA/видео.html
It was a big surprise that Lewis Carrol became a writer. People think that he was dyslexic. It was said that he started out in life hating reading. Maybe he was more comfortable with kids, for what reason I don’t know. I am not like him. I feel uncomfortable around kids. This is different. Having a relationship with a kid. Not everyone is that way. I think he was a creative man. I do
admire him for his prolific creativity.
Oh FFS. Dodgson was the real person; Carrol was the pseudonym. "It was said" by who? WTFAYGT?
Dodgson was deaf in one ear and had a mild stutter, but he never had dyslexia.
Where did you read that?
Dodgson begin writing at a very early age to entertain his family.
He was as a minister's son, well versed in the classics and the Bible.
He was a very good student and his reading and writing skills were only eclipsed by his love of math and logic.
Since nothing was known in his day about dyslexia, he would have struggled in school and been considered "slow".
How does this equate with the reality that he easily got into Oxford and eventually became a Don, albeit a tutor in the field of math and logic.
I wanted to hear about Lewis Carroll not the gossip. Surely his literature should stand above that. He was only human, humans are less than perfect. Leave him alone. I think "Through the Looking Glass," is the best and his poetry.
Alice was Mr. Dodges' pyschopomt! ♤♤♤
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I remember reading this book. I also remember the animated and live action version of this movie and both are on Disney plus.
Jack the Ripper and Alice liddell ...lewis and little Alice....c Lewis and Lewis c.
Glennda was England...
Rule them in lies and illusions ..
My Life
Moore
NIU Holly
Etc
It stopped ughh
@2manysecrets "...re-writing history ... using their own imaginations" That's pretty-much what everyone does all the time; we infer only what we've learned in our own life, and sometimes try to give leeway in our imaginings of others' thoughts.
"Portraying his feelings ... 'strange'" Alice did later say that she thought him 'strange.'
"...teach this fear to their children..." Yep, fear's become the dominant way to steer others in all manner of interaction!
"...making another's diaries public..." I don't think reading old diaries is so bad; neither of us will ever meet, and I cannot do any real damage if he's already dead. And I'd rather read someone's journal than that day's newspaper!
"The finished work is all that matters." I think there's sometimes a lot to be learned in seeing what's behind the curtain. Too often we think, "this is just the way things gotta be." And we fail to consider how wildly-different all the little choices-not-taken could change things. The finished work is just more polished.
7:15 Yes, his discription made me want to read the book as well. Must be nice to have such an understanding.
ism schism weird
I have two words for you: KAROLINE LEACH!
Thank god someone said it!
What?
Yes the bitch that tried to rewrite history, and couldn't make up her mind whether Dodgson was in love with Lorina, Alice's sister, or her mother (also Lorina) or the governess, despite all the letters, poems and love notes Dodgson wrote only to ALICE!! "
Jack was a favorite of c s Lewis ...jack Kennedy ..Jackie Kennedy.. jack of diamonds named jack ♦️...
Jack the Ripper and his jack knife....Alice ...
Seek out truth on a world of desception...it's my karma.
The series "Pretty Little Liars" have been hugely inspired by "Alice in Wonderland" and the origins of the tale, with the story of Charles Dodgson and Alice Liddell : this video shows how...
ruclips.net/video/Ff1fyqzGTNA/видео.html
Alice Day.
The day of the creeper.
WTF??
Alice was a creeper?
In reply to 2many secrets, below ... 2, how in the hell can one rewrite history? History WAS, that's Why it's history.. All we can do is try to figure it out. That's what historians do=2! I love bad puns
You can "re-write" history by removing all traces of what existed previously. Through annihilation
UNDERGROUND??
That was the title to the original manuscript. Alice's Adventures Underground.
why try to listen to the narration a little bit?
This all is just an illusion. We have a story, let us follow it...
Back in those times parents gave permission for Carroll to take nude pix of their daughters. It's only really since internet times it's frowned upon. Alice's father was concerned because he focused on Alice much longer. His photo's were praised by society. A different era certainly.
Carroll did have most of his photo's destroyed though
I didn't know this either. wow. but you know people will find all types of excuses not to understand this. like you said, it was a DIFFERENT ERA.
you are very enlightened Kenyetta.
A nude photo is not porn, a photo of a nude child is not pedophilia. Did you know that many famous photographs of nude children we're taken by WOMEN? Just about every famous photographer in history took a few child nudes. They were so popular in the 19th and early 20th c. that they could be found everywhere including advertisements and souvenir post cards.
It is ironic that the child's body, which is supposed to be innocent, is considered disgusting, and if thy eye offends thee, pluck them out attitude!
but why did the family stop associating with him later in life though doesnt it show that something went wrong
@@metromelody18 I already stated why in my other posts... Read them!
He was only out of the Liddell's good graces for a few months. Lived across from their home his whole life. One theory is that he publicly criticized the Dean his boss and Alice's father for some remodeling ideas for the college. Another theory is that Dodgson mentioned to Alice's mother, the possability of an engagement to Alice in the future. This theory has many proponents because Alice's mother did burn or threw out all the letters he wrote to Alice soon after Dodgson had the rare opportunity to accompany Alice to a royal celebration and personally escorted her home. What was said between them is anyone's guess, but we are NOT talking about anything else. If Dodgson ever did something to Alice and other children, he would have been forced to resign his professorship for starters, and could not have remained living, 100 feet away from Alice. He also did NOT take any nude photos of the Liddell children. He didn't start talking the few nudes that he did until the late 1870's and by that time Alice was an adult! Dodgson started telling 10 year old Alice the Wonderland story, but it wasn't published until 1865 when she was 13, and Alice was 20 when Looking Glass was published. Alice not only had the original manuscript, but 1st ed. signed copies of every Alice edition and every book he wrote, and kept them into old age. Not exactly what a molested little girl would do!!!
never liked the story-way 2 weird for me.
COULD NOT STAND THE SMELL OF HIM AND I KNOW HE WAS NOT RIGHT
There was NOTHING wrong with him. It's been proven stories were fabricated and photos altered.
Lay off! He was a good man and people get off making up BS about someone who can't defend himself.
Thank God for the weird.
Just started to watch this film. A little bit curious about Lewis Carroll himself.
2manysecrets2, I think I understand your indignation. Somehow people look for something "rotten" in a life of celebrities, and become very happy when found. To equate themselfs to those ones, to feel better in every day sins they do, perhaps.. I don't like it either. A human nature, what shall we do.
Who didn't see, but curious: here's russian version of animated film, pretty easy and amusing:
ruclips.net/video/k3n2GPvKdxU/видео.html
July 4th they should tell the story when murica defeated the British
I think he drugged her and wrote this fantasy about where her dreams went while he had his way with her. Sick F
Dream on and on do we now? It is obviously in YOUR head so it MUST have been Dodgson's thoughts as well? YASFOS.
It’s creepy weird seems like Alice had schizophrenia in the book
Now we're getting somewhere!
Disgusting
WTFAYTA??
Ah yes! 21st century political correctness judging early 20th attitudes.
WITH ALL THIS EVIL, THEY SHOULD "BAN FOREVER THIS BOOK/PLAY/MOVIE" JUST FOR ALL THE PAIN IT BROUGHT IN REAL LIFE...
PC Nonsense, the book, the plays & the movies have & still do give great pleasure to millions all over the world who escape into a magical world.
All vintage art was made by people who did and thought things that would be considered horrific to our current societal standards. The past is the past. The civilised society we have today is because of the past. Of course the past is mostly bad but we can't destroy the good that came out of it simply because it was made by people of the past. We learn from the past.
You are so full of bs. It's been proven photos were altered and he had normal relationships.
oooOOhhhhHH,, try reading, it, first, before, passing, prejudicial, judgements?
What makes a man”s mind so delusional to over value a ordinary little girl?
Well...let's ask Hugh Hefner after the Monroe incident ..
It seem if you catch love , you become temporarily insane...I see lots of people killed in the name of love...
Hugh Hefner could never have Monroe...not even the copies of her worked...
Money can't buy love or happiness...it just makes cents.
RUMORS!! Pics altered to make him look bad. He was a fine man who preferred the company of women.
Dodgson was in love, and NOT with a "little girl." What kind of man hand-inks that book for over a year and then asks permission of the mom to present it to Alice as a Christmas gift? And in what year was this done?????? Put 2 and 2 together. Geez people open your eyes wide shut.
@@mrunning10 - she was ordinary. neither physically or intellectually gifted. She didn't even love him.
It was a obsession. He didn't know it.
@@lancelotxavier9084 1.Wrong. 2.Wrong. 3.Wrong. 4.Possible, it fits the data, would explain much. 5.Correct. 6.Wrong, he did know it.
How could she be 80 celebrating the 100th year of the book if he wrote it when she was four. 🦩