This is the best set-up for me right now - I don't really see any downsides to it. Also, people in the comments recommended KNOX armored jacket - I didn't try it, but it looks good. What I like is that it already comes with abrasion resistant material. You may want to check it out too. Thank you for watching and the comment!
@@SquareHelmet Only downside I can think of is the time it takes to put it on, but let's be honest, motorcycles are best used for scheduled fun, not a last minute hurry to commute somewhere.
As a long distance tourer, I need impact and abrasion resistance as well as protection from the elements. I too took the layering approach, but did it in another way. I wear a Klim Marrakesh jacket and DYNS Dyneema/Kevlar riding jeans as the foundation. The Marrakesh is entirely 1000D Cordura and I upgraded to level 2 armor. It’s tight and stretchy and the armor doesn’t slide around. I then made a 4-season setup with base and mid layers as needed and a Klim Forecast rain jacket. Still tweaking this out as I ride more, so we’ll see.
Thank you for the recommendations. I've been looking at Klim Marrakesh - seems like a great jacket. The DYNS jeans may be a bit too fancy looking for the forest trails I go to. Look nice though - somehow I didn't know about DYNS. The reviews seem good. Overall, I like your set-up - I had something like this in the past (jacket with armor + layers underneath as needed for warms or above for elements protection). Thank you for the comment!
@@SquareHelmet DYNS is one of those smaller, independent companies like Aerostich, etc. I think there are lots of good AA and AAA options out there. I just got back from a 5-day trip around Utah (where I live) and California. Cold, brutal winds and some rain, so I experimented around. Hotwired jacket liner as a base, down hoodie, Klim Zephyr wind shirt, then Marrakesh kept the wind out and me warm enough on my Goldwing DCT Tour, which had some wind protection (setup probably wouldn’t have been enough on a naked or sport bike). What really made it comfortable was the Klim Forecast GoreTex rain jacket and I was surprised. It blocked wind, was breathable, no leakage, and it fit well. Worth the fortune I paid for it. Would any of this work with your off-reading and on a lighter bike?
Dang I've hardly thought about this! My Aerostich suit is super convenient, but obviously too hot off road. The two times I have gone off road with it falling was painful, the armor simply moves at the worst possible time. Thank you *very* much for this. I have some searching to do for my specific body type.
Good advice. I need to replace my adventure jacket, and since I'm doing more off-road, I was considering body armor. Now, I see that it will also serve me in my touring when the weather gets hot.
Yes, it really gives you ultimate flexibility. Yesterday I had my first riding day. It was a cold day (still lots of snow here in Canada). So I wore my armors under my regular canada goose winter coat and winter pants. I was warm, safe and I almost didn't feel the armor. If you have abrasion resistant shirt - add it as another layer. Thank you for the comment - ride safely!
I've struggled with finding a practical armor solution for my daily work commute to the office. I've never seen anyone wear a button up shirt over their armor, that is interesting.
I think you misunderstood my message: my point was only about the armor. I demo it with the button up shirt in the video just to show how light and invisible the armor layer is: if I can wear it under shirt - I can wear it under anything. I never wear a button up shirt for riding or a nice jacket like that. Armor is just one of my layers. On top I usually wear abrasion resistant layer (when go on paved roads), warm layer/layers, rain coat, regular motorcycle jackets (with their armor removed). I should have made it more clear. Sorry about that. Maybe that was the reason for the 5 dislikes the video got 🙂. I'll update the description - I don't want people to start riding forest trails in dress shirts. Thank you for pointing this out and for watching!
@@SquareHelmet Thanks for the reply and commenting. I thought I had to step my game up, lol. I agree with your assessment. I prefer to wear segregated armor under various types of jackets or even no jacket, depending on the ride and time of year. I also feel like the armor stays in place when integrated into a compression style jacket. I wear my Alpine Bionic V2 jacket while ADV riding in my 1250GS and while enduro riding on my GasGas EC300. It's a very versatile systems, much like this Revit jacket you are presenting. Thank you
@@tcb333 Your approach to your riding gear makes perfect sense! I don't really see any downsides to segregated armor, while it offers a lot of obvious benefits... On a separate note: man, you have a 1250GS and GasGas EC300? What an great set-up! You can really cover the entire range of all possible riding conditions. I usually bash GS from the offroad riding point of view, but as a long distance adventure bike - it's great! Thank you for the comments and ride safely!
I use Knox urbane pro shirt MK2, brilliant for hot weather with new upgraded back protector (more ventilation), very protective and also Knox design layering system. You can get other jackets from them to go on top, or use something else of your choosing. I think it is brilliant. You can also get trousers.
Thank you so much for the recommendation! They are not well represented in Canada, but I absolutely have to check them out now. I've seen a few guys mentioning KNOX. I REALY like the way KNOX looks and that it already comes with abrasion resistant fabric - for offroad riding I could wear it without anything on top of it. If I knew of the KNOX before, I would have added them to my tests. Thank you for the great comment!
@@SquareHelmet Thank you. It is important to use updated back protector with more breathability thou, otherwise in hot weather the back may be a bit sweaty..
Very VERY excellent advice and demonstration. I'm in USA a Scott isn't available here so I guess I will have to choose the Proteous. Cheers from Denver Colorado USA!
I'm glad you found the video useful! Proteus is great! I had hard time picking between the two. Denver Colorado - would love to go there by bike one day! Enjoy riding there and thank you for the comment!
I actually kept all my previous motorcycle clothes: just removed all the armor from them and I now wear them on top of my Scott armor jacket and Leatt shorts. I hope I never have to test the effectiveness of the armor. But at least I like the fact that the armor stays in place.
Interesting, I actually didn't know about Knox... Looks great though and it seems to have Level 2 protection back, shoulders and elbows - just what I need! The only thing its missing is chest protector, but it looks like it can be added later. I agree, Proteus feels a bit big and heavy. Also was one of the reasons I picked Scott. Have you tried Knox? How does it compare to Proteus?
@@SquareHelmet I think the new KNOX will be a game changer - I have tried the current KNOX at SportsBikeShop and they are a dream - I bought my Revit after seeing Itchy Boots videos 2 years ago - still love it but KNOX will see my future pennies
I have also tried and bought many gear, some because I just like it, but you are so correct in that we need gear that protects all of the time. I will look at what you reviewed. Thanks
Yes, if the protection does not do much to protect us - then what's the point in having it? With this armored protection, you can just remove the loose protection in your old motorcycle jackets and where them on top of this. Also, some jackets have straps that keep elbow armor in place - those are good too! Thank you for watching and commenting!
I've been riding for years and had my share of incidents. I've had similar ideas. Body armors are typically better for shock absorption because they stay in place. But they're usually not so good for abrasion. For the best of both worlds you need to either: A. Find a riding jacket, preferably CE AA rated or above (abrasion rating), that fits you snug or adjust/modify it so it doesn't have any slack a/r flap. Meanwhile upgrade the armors so they are CE lvl.2 (impact rating) if they didn't come with the jacket. B. Find a leather jacket or suit that has the aforementioned ratings. C. Wear riding jacket on top of the body armor. Down side is you lose the casual look unless you can find something that's both protective and casual. But those are either rare or expensive.
My option is option C in your list. I should have made the video more explicit about it's main point: it's really only about the armor. The layering concept is all about having one layer that's just armor, and on top of it goes everything else: warm layer if needed, abrasion resistant layer, waterproof layer, etc. Those layers can be added/removed as needed, but the armor layer always stays. What I did with my new armor jacket and shorts was I replaced the standard "moving" armor in my riding gear with the new armor that stays in place. But I still use all my riding gear, including the abrasion resistant top jacket when I go on paved roads. The reason why I wear a formal shirt in the video is just to illustrate how small and invisible CE Level2 armor can be. Basically, if it can be easily worn under a regular business shirt - it can be worn under anything. As for your point A: I had a great jacket that uses straps to keep elbow protection in place. The problem with individual jackets like this is that they are less flexible than my "layering" approach. Yes, in some of them I had a "thermal" liner, plus 'waterproof' liner, etc... But that actually brings us back to the layering concept: instead of buying one jacket with the fixed set of liners, I can just go to "layering" concept and buy any combination of "liners" I want. So, in your list I switched from multiple jackets in categories A and B, to category C where I have more control over every layer I use. Great compact summary though! Thank you for the comment - I know people read the comments, so it's great to have it here!
@@SquareHelmet I believe there is a best solution for every riding condition. Also, I just realized that you mainly ride off road, or so I have guessed. In which case abrasion resistance is less of the main focus. For that reason, C. would be my usual choice as well. Not to mention trying to keep versatile when weather changes. Cool video BTW. Stay safe.
Hey, Ithank you for the video!. I've read that the soft/light body armors's fabric can wear out quicker, in comparison to tougher materials (for example the fox armour you're showing in your video). I'm usually wearing protective leggins with armour and whatever pants - even like you, I wear motorcycling jeans over the leggins, with the padding removed in the jeans. This way I can choose a lighter layer for my legs. But for the top, I rely on stronger material, as I don't have the confidence in the soft fabric holding the protectors in place. What's your experience with the scott body armor, and how long have you been using it? Thanks!
Good question... Scott body armor is just a very stretchy mesh material with the attached armor plates. The regular fabric may be more prone to be worn out, but this syntenic material seems like it may last a while. Fox armor is not much different in that sense: it's also a mesh material with armor plates. It's just the Fox armor plates are made of plastic and they are more bulky. But the mesh that holds the armor in place doesn't seem very different from Scott's. I haven't used Scott long enough to tell how it will perform in the long term... I'll try to post an update at the end of 2024 season. Unfortunately, there is not much information available on the long term reliability. Thank you for the comment!
Through experience, I ended up wearing the similar Moose Racing XCR, but that Scott one has more coverage. Dont forget the knees!! I've experienced a very painful debridement on my left knee due to a knee pad shifting in a slow speed slide on asphalt. I only wear strap style now (Leatt Dual Axis or EXT).
I've been debating about knee protection... I got Revit Scram, but somehow felt they were always in the way. Since I ride at low speeds and looking at crash statistics analysis by Fortnine (knees are not always damaged) I decided not to use knee protection... But I'm not sure if it's a good choice. I may revisit this. Leatt Dual Axis looks good and I feel they are like fortress for the knees. I'll probably order a pair to give them a try this season. Thank you for the suggestion!
@@SquareHelmet You're welcome! My knee burn was at less than 25mph, on pea gravel over asphalt. The doctor had to dig gravel out of my knee. You dont want that =) Before I had the Leatt Dual Axis, I used a similar Fox racing item...I broke one when I dropped my XR650L on a slow rocky trail...would have shattered my knee. I switched to the Leatts as they are more comfortable. I understand the desire to look stylish (I sometimes wear riding jeans and a Klim Marakesh), but we have to accept the the potential consequences. I ride a Tiger 900 and a DRZ400. I can go casual on the Tiger if I'm only riding pavement, but will always armor up on the DRZ or if my Tiger ride will take me off road. Cheers!!
Thanks for a great video. I just washed some of my various Klim gear two days ago and was putting armor back in and thinking how much it moves around and especially in the pants knees where it moves side to side because the mesh pockets they go in are much larger than the width of the D30 armor.
That's exactly it: back protectors are usually big and can cover the spine even if they move. But elbows and knees are hard to keep in places. My elbow protection moved out of the way on my first fall. Even if you fall and get lucky and it stays in place, I wouldn't rely on this. I still think it's safer to assume that if it moves inside the mesh pocket - then it will move out of the way. Some jackets have straps that help keep the elbow armor in place - I think those are good. But the tight armor jackets I tested felt like the best way to go. And I can still wear all my gear over them - just removed their own armor pads. Thank you for the comment! Ride safely
Just subscribed, excellent videos, i just watched each of them. I agree with all of them too. I've considered an XT 250 for a while now. I had a 1982xt 250 in high school back in the 80s and loved it. Currently ride a BMW G310GS because it's light and versatile. I have a couple dirt bikes so i don't do too much off roading with my little GS. Anyway, greetings from Utah, USA, and great content, I'm looking forward to more.
Thank you for the kinds words - I appreciate it! I started this channel just for fun and I'm so happy to hear that so many people enjoy my videos and find them useful (I got 20K views in about a month on a brand-new channel). As for the bike - I like small light bikes. Not sure what took me so long to figure this out - I spent years on 1,000cc+ bikes. I feel more connected to a small bike. Would love to try BMW G310GS - I have a feeling it's the best GS of them all! You have some stunning landscapes in Utah! It's on my bucket list for riding - I hope I'll make it there one day. Thank you for the comment!
No, it is essentially the 'armor underlayer': it's just a stretchy mesh designed to keep the armor in place. You'll need to wear other layers on top, depending on where and when you ride. It's like an onion with its layers: this one is the protection, on top you can add anything - abrasion-resistant layer, warm wool sweater layer, motocross jersey, or regular motorcycle jacket (with armor removed). My use: for slow technical forest trails in hot weather, I can wear some motocross jersey over it. For paved roads - I wear regular motorcycle jacket with its (moving) armor removed. For casual look in warmer weather - I can wear some abrasion resistant shirt. I can add light wool sweaters, rain overcoat as needed, etc. This layering approach is the most flexible and I now the armor always stays in place. Thank you for the comment! Ride safely!
Good and helpful video. I was also thinking on buying the Scott but the sizes are confusing. How tall are you and what size did you pick? Did you follow the sizes chart and matched what Scott says? I should buy L based on chest but XL based on height...so hard to chose the right one considering the protection needs to stay in place... Thanks in advance!
I am 178cm (5'10") and 72 kg. I actually tried both, L and XL. I had to switch back and forth so many times - I felt good in both of them somehow. XL felt roomier, while L felt a bit more snug. I think it's because the armor is sitting on stretchy fabric, and in L in stretches a bit, while in XL it just fits without much stretching. I settled on L in the end. By the way, my main criteria was how it felt around chest and shoulders. I am not sure why height matters for their sizing chart. The back protector is huge, I think it will cover spine well anyway. So if you are about my size - take an L. If bigger - XL. I hope this helps. Ride safely!
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Great advice. I didn’t know where to start with body armor.
This is the best set-up for me right now - I don't really see any downsides to it. Also, people in the comments recommended KNOX armored jacket - I didn't try it, but it looks good. What I like is that it already comes with abrasion resistant material. You may want to check it out too.
Thank you for watching and the comment!
@@SquareHelmet Only downside I can think of is the time it takes to put it on, but let's be honest, motorcycles are best used for scheduled fun, not a last minute hurry to commute somewhere.
Brilliant advice to someone who had no idea, just what I need.
Took me years to see what's been right in front of me all this time... I'm glad you found this helpful!
As a long distance tourer, I need impact and abrasion resistance as well as protection from the elements. I too took the layering approach, but did it in another way. I wear a Klim Marrakesh jacket and DYNS Dyneema/Kevlar riding jeans as the foundation. The Marrakesh is entirely 1000D Cordura and I upgraded to level 2 armor. It’s tight and stretchy and the armor doesn’t slide around. I then made a 4-season setup with base and mid layers as needed and a Klim Forecast rain jacket. Still tweaking this out as I ride more, so we’ll see.
Thank you for the recommendations. I've been looking at Klim Marrakesh - seems like a great jacket. The DYNS jeans may be a bit too fancy looking for the forest trails I go to. Look nice though - somehow I didn't know about DYNS. The reviews seem good.
Overall, I like your set-up - I had something like this in the past (jacket with armor + layers underneath as needed for warms or above for elements protection).
Thank you for the comment!
@@SquareHelmet DYNS is one of those smaller, independent companies like Aerostich, etc. I think there are lots of good AA and AAA options out there. I just got back from a 5-day trip around Utah (where I live) and California. Cold, brutal winds and some rain, so I experimented around. Hotwired jacket liner as a base, down hoodie, Klim Zephyr wind shirt, then Marrakesh kept the wind out and me warm enough on my Goldwing DCT Tour, which had some wind protection (setup probably wouldn’t have been enough on a naked or sport bike). What really made it comfortable was the Klim Forecast GoreTex rain jacket and I was surprised. It blocked wind, was breathable, no leakage, and it fit well. Worth the fortune I paid for it. Would any of this work with your off-reading and on a lighter bike?
Dang I've hardly thought about this! My Aerostich suit is super convenient, but obviously too hot off road. The two times I have gone off road with it falling was painful, the armor simply moves at the worst possible time. Thank you *very* much for this. I have some searching to do for my specific body type.
@@carllinden533 I'm glad you found this useful. I learned the hard way...
Ride safely!
Good advice. I need to replace my adventure jacket, and since I'm doing more off-road, I was considering body armor. Now, I see that it will also serve me in my touring when the weather gets hot.
Yes, it really gives you ultimate flexibility. Yesterday I had my first riding day. It was a cold day (still lots of snow here in Canada). So I wore my armors under my regular canada goose winter coat and winter pants. I was warm, safe and I almost didn't feel the armor. If you have abrasion resistant shirt - add it as another layer.
Thank you for the comment - ride safely!
I've struggled with finding a practical armor solution for my daily work commute to the office. I've never seen anyone wear a button up shirt over their armor, that is interesting.
I think you misunderstood my message: my point was only about the armor. I demo it with the button up shirt in the video just to show how light and invisible the armor layer is: if I can wear it under shirt - I can wear it under anything.
I never wear a button up shirt for riding or a nice jacket like that. Armor is just one of my layers. On top I usually wear abrasion resistant layer (when go on paved roads), warm layer/layers, rain coat, regular motorcycle jackets (with their armor removed).
I should have made it more clear. Sorry about that. Maybe that was the reason for the 5 dislikes the video got 🙂. I'll update the description - I don't want people to start riding forest trails in dress shirts.
Thank you for pointing this out and for watching!
@@SquareHelmet Thanks for the reply and commenting. I thought I had to step my game up, lol. I agree with your assessment. I prefer to wear segregated armor under various types of jackets or even no jacket, depending on the ride and time of year. I also feel like the armor stays in place when integrated into a compression style jacket. I wear my Alpine Bionic V2 jacket while ADV riding in my 1250GS and while enduro riding on my GasGas EC300. It's a very versatile systems, much like this Revit jacket you are presenting. Thank you
@@tcb333 Your approach to your riding gear makes perfect sense! I don't really see any downsides to segregated armor, while it offers a lot of obvious benefits...
On a separate note: man, you have a 1250GS and GasGas EC300? What an great set-up! You can really cover the entire range of all possible riding conditions. I usually bash GS from the offroad riding point of view, but as a long distance adventure bike - it's great!
Thank you for the comments and ride safely!
Also the scott jacket has abrasion resistant materials on the outer arms, which will be useful when you go on the street
I didn't know - thank you for the info! I'll take any protection I can get.
Thank you for watching!
Great video - season is about to end herein aussie but will use your idea next Summer
Oh yes, it's the reverse here in Canada - we are just about to start!
I'm glad you l liked the video - thank you for the comment!
I use Knox urbane pro shirt MK2, brilliant for hot weather with new upgraded back protector (more ventilation), very protective and also Knox design layering system. You can get other jackets from them to go on top, or use something else of your choosing. I think it is brilliant. You can also get trousers.
Thank you so much for the recommendation! They are not well represented in Canada, but I absolutely have to check them out now. I've seen a few guys mentioning KNOX. I REALY like the way KNOX looks and that it already comes with abrasion resistant fabric - for offroad riding I could wear it without anything on top of it. If I knew of the KNOX before, I would have added them to my tests.
Thank you for the great comment!
@@SquareHelmet Thank you. It is important to use updated back protector with more breathability thou, otherwise in hot weather the back may be a bit sweaty..
Very VERY excellent advice and demonstration. I'm in USA a Scott isn't available here so I guess I will have to choose the Proteous. Cheers from Denver Colorado USA!
I'm glad you found the video useful!
Proteus is great! I had hard time picking between the two.
Denver Colorado - would love to go there by bike one day!
Enjoy riding there and thank you for the comment!
I actually kept all my previous motorcycle clothes: just removed all the armor from them and I now wear them on top of my Scott armor jacket and Leatt shorts. I hope I never have to test the effectiveness of the armor. But at least I like the fact that the armor stays in place.
how good is the armor in the Leatt shorts?
I have the Revit Proteus - its a tad heavy but gives me great confidence - I will be buying the new KNOX come summer
Interesting, I actually didn't know about Knox... Looks great though and it seems to have Level 2 protection back, shoulders and elbows - just what I need! The only thing its missing is chest protector, but it looks like it can be added later.
I agree, Proteus feels a bit big and heavy. Also was one of the reasons I picked Scott.
Have you tried Knox? How does it compare to Proteus?
@@SquareHelmet I think the new KNOX will be a game changer - I have tried the current KNOX at SportsBikeShop and they are a dream - I bought my Revit after seeing Itchy Boots videos 2 years ago - still love it but KNOX will see my future pennies
I have also tried and bought many gear, some because I just like it, but you are so correct in that we need gear that protects all of the time. I will look at what you reviewed. Thanks
Yes, if the protection does not do much to protect us - then what's the point in having it? With this armored protection, you can just remove the loose protection in your old motorcycle jackets and where them on top of this.
Also, some jackets have straps that keep elbow armor in place - those are good too!
Thank you for watching and commenting!
I've been riding for years and had my share of incidents. I've had similar ideas.
Body armors are typically better for shock absorption because they stay in place.
But they're usually not so good for abrasion.
For the best of both worlds you need to either:
A. Find a riding jacket, preferably CE AA rated or above (abrasion rating), that fits you snug or adjust/modify it so it doesn't have any slack a/r flap. Meanwhile upgrade the armors so they are CE lvl.2 (impact rating) if they didn't come with the jacket.
B. Find a leather jacket or suit that has the aforementioned ratings.
C. Wear riding jacket on top of the body armor.
Down side is you lose the casual look unless you can find something that's both protective and casual. But those are either rare or expensive.
My option is option C in your list. I should have made the video more explicit about it's main point: it's really only about the armor. The layering concept is all about having one layer that's just armor, and on top of it goes everything else: warm layer if needed, abrasion resistant layer, waterproof layer, etc. Those layers can be added/removed as needed, but the armor layer always stays.
What I did with my new armor jacket and shorts was I replaced the standard "moving" armor in my riding gear with the new armor that stays in place. But I still use all my riding gear, including the abrasion resistant top jacket when I go on paved roads.
The reason why I wear a formal shirt in the video is just to illustrate how small and invisible CE Level2 armor can be. Basically, if it can be easily worn under a regular business shirt - it can be worn under anything.
As for your point A: I had a great jacket that uses straps to keep elbow protection in place. The problem with individual jackets like this is that they are less flexible than my "layering" approach. Yes, in some of them I had a "thermal" liner, plus 'waterproof' liner, etc... But that actually brings us back to the layering concept: instead of buying one jacket with the fixed set of liners, I can just go to "layering" concept and buy any combination of "liners" I want.
So, in your list I switched from multiple jackets in categories A and B, to category C where I have more control over every layer I use.
Great compact summary though! Thank you for the comment - I know people read the comments, so it's great to have it here!
@@SquareHelmet I believe there is a best solution for every riding condition. Also, I just realized that you mainly ride off road, or so I have guessed. In which case abrasion resistance is less of the main focus. For that reason, C. would be my usual choice as well. Not to mention trying to keep versatile when weather changes. Cool video BTW. Stay safe.
Yes! Thank you!
Hey, Ithank you for the video!. I've read that the soft/light body armors's fabric can wear out quicker, in comparison to tougher materials (for example the fox armour you're showing in your video). I'm usually wearing protective leggins with armour and whatever pants - even like you, I wear motorcycling jeans over the leggins, with the padding removed in the jeans. This way I can choose a lighter layer for my legs. But for the top, I rely on stronger material, as I don't have the confidence in the soft fabric holding the protectors in place.
What's your experience with the scott body armor, and how long have you been using it? Thanks!
Good question... Scott body armor is just a very stretchy mesh material with the attached armor plates. The regular fabric may be more prone to be worn out, but this syntenic material seems like it may last a while. Fox armor is not much different in that sense: it's also a mesh material with armor plates. It's just the Fox armor plates are made of plastic and they are more bulky. But the mesh that holds the armor in place doesn't seem very different from Scott's.
I haven't used Scott long enough to tell how it will perform in the long term... I'll try to post an update at the end of 2024 season. Unfortunately, there is not much information available on the long term reliability.
Thank you for the comment!
Through experience, I ended up wearing the similar Moose Racing XCR, but that Scott one has more coverage. Dont forget the knees!! I've experienced a very painful debridement on my left knee due to a knee pad shifting in a slow speed slide on asphalt. I only wear strap style now (Leatt Dual Axis or EXT).
I've been debating about knee protection... I got Revit Scram, but somehow felt they were always in the way. Since I ride at low speeds and looking at crash statistics analysis by Fortnine (knees are not always damaged) I decided not to use knee protection... But I'm not sure if it's a good choice. I may revisit this. Leatt Dual Axis looks good and I feel they are like fortress for the knees. I'll probably order a pair to give them a try this season. Thank you for the suggestion!
@@SquareHelmet You're welcome! My knee burn was at less than 25mph, on pea gravel over asphalt. The doctor had to dig gravel out of my knee. You dont want that =) Before I had the Leatt Dual Axis, I used a similar Fox racing item...I broke one when I dropped my XR650L on a slow rocky trail...would have shattered my knee. I switched to the Leatts as they are more comfortable. I understand the desire to look stylish (I sometimes wear riding jeans and a Klim Marakesh), but we have to accept the the potential consequences. I ride a Tiger 900 and a DRZ400. I can go casual on the Tiger if I'm only riding pavement, but will always armor up on the DRZ or if my Tiger ride will take me off road. Cheers!!
Thanks for a great video. I just washed some of my various Klim gear two days ago and was putting armor back in and thinking how much it moves around and especially in the pants knees where it moves side to side because the mesh pockets they go in are much larger than the width of the D30 armor.
That's exactly it: back protectors are usually big and can cover the spine even if they move. But elbows and knees are hard to keep in places. My elbow protection moved out of the way on my first fall. Even if you fall and get lucky and it stays in place, I wouldn't rely on this. I still think it's safer to assume that if it moves inside the mesh pocket - then it will move out of the way.
Some jackets have straps that help keep the elbow armor in place - I think those are good.
But the tight armor jackets I tested felt like the best way to go. And I can still wear all my gear over them - just removed their own armor pads.
Thank you for the comment! Ride safely
Just subscribed, excellent videos, i just watched each of them. I agree with all of them too. I've considered an XT 250 for a while now. I had a 1982xt 250 in high school back in the 80s and loved it. Currently ride a BMW G310GS because it's light and versatile. I have a couple dirt bikes so i don't do too much off roading with my little GS. Anyway, greetings from Utah, USA, and great content, I'm looking forward to more.
Thank you for the kinds words - I appreciate it! I started this channel just for fun and I'm so happy to hear that so many people enjoy my videos and find them useful (I got 20K views in about a month on a brand-new channel).
As for the bike - I like small light bikes. Not sure what took me so long to figure this out - I spent years on 1,000cc+ bikes. I feel more connected to a small bike. Would love to try BMW G310GS - I have a feeling it's the best GS of them all!
You have some stunning landscapes in Utah! It's on my bucket list for riding - I hope I'll make it there one day.
Thank you for the comment!
do these armors come with abrasion protection? for when you're on the way on the asphalt
No, it is essentially the 'armor underlayer': it's just a stretchy mesh designed to keep the armor in place. You'll need to wear other layers on top, depending on where and when you ride. It's like an onion with its layers: this one is the protection, on top you can add anything - abrasion-resistant layer, warm wool sweater layer, motocross jersey, or regular motorcycle jacket (with armor removed).
My use: for slow technical forest trails in hot weather, I can wear some motocross jersey over it. For paved roads - I wear regular motorcycle jacket with its (moving) armor removed. For casual look in warmer weather - I can wear some abrasion resistant shirt. I can add light wool sweaters, rain overcoat as needed, etc. This layering approach is the most flexible and I now the armor always stays in place.
Thank you for the comment! Ride safely!
Good and helpful video. I was also thinking on buying the Scott but the sizes are confusing. How tall are you and what size did you pick?
Did you follow the sizes chart and matched what Scott says?
I should buy L based on chest but XL based on height...so hard to chose the right one considering the protection needs to stay in place...
Thanks in advance!
I am 178cm (5'10") and 72 kg. I actually tried both, L and XL. I had to switch back and forth so many times - I felt good in both of them somehow. XL felt roomier, while L felt a bit more snug. I think it's because the armor is sitting on stretchy fabric, and in L in stretches a bit, while in XL it just fits without much stretching.
I settled on L in the end.
By the way, my main criteria was how it felt around chest and shoulders. I am not sure why height matters for their sizing chart. The back protector is huge, I think it will cover spine well anyway.
So if you are about my size - take an L. If bigger - XL.
I hope this helps. Ride safely!
@@SquareHelmet thanks for the answer. Considering how it fits you and that I am 1.84m and 84kg, i will try with the XL first. Very helpful!!😉
Good Video
Thank you! I'm glad you liked it. I wish I paid attention to this 'protective armor' option sooner.
Knox!
I'll take a look. I never tried it before, but there are a couple of people who suggested it - I'll check. Thank you!
The Honiston jacket is the only AAA rated mesh jacket I'm aware of. This creates the base you can wear anything over the top. @@SquareHelmet
thank youforvideo
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