Great to see this old 289 revived properly and at stock stroke, heads etc. Big strokers are all great but sometimes its just good to see basic cool old stuff.
How refreshing to see some Ford motors. Especially this old school 289. Seen enough LS builds to last me a long time. Still waiting to see something really off the hook, but this little 289 should be fun. Joping you can talk them out of the flat tappet cam.
Thank you for the Ford content. 289 Hi-Po pretty rare! Blocks are select with thicker main caps compared to std. 289s. Casting, core shift and deck differential tends to be better than most. Cranks are high nodular iron and Brinell-tested at the factory for hardness. The ONLY difference in the cylinder heads is the presence of screw-in rocker studs. The ports, valves and combustion chambers are identical to std. 289s. The engine, despite its small C.I.D. will respond well to slighter larger valves, a good 3-5 angle valve job, and pocket porting. Porting the upper portion of the intake ports to the gasket as far into the head as possible and performing the same with the intake manifold to ensure an equal transition with the heads. Enlarging and radiusing the upper portion of the exhaust ports can pay serious dividends. I've been building and competing with Ford engines, big and small. for more than 50 years. When I was growing up, non-Ford people used to laugh at the small Windsor V-8 Fords. Not so much these days. They've gained respect as a Legacy engine. If one took the time and built the engine in a methodical manner they were usually rewarded with a well-performing , reliable piece. That little engine has a lot going for it. Always did. It accomplished so much on the road and in many forms of motorsports through the years. B.T.W. That block and those heads look like they've been plated! Nice job. Look forward to more!
Little? It’s 4.7l for christ sake. The wide bearing caps are also on Mexico blocks. I’ve built quite a few SBFs. The Hipo is nice for historically correct numbers builds but otherwise nothing extra special.
@@odl21 In the era, 289 cubes WAS little for a V-8. The topic is HI-PO engines and comparisons made with other 289s available in domestic Ford vehicles of the day.
Hey Daniel, Tim here, just for an FYI, if you EVERY needed somethin for an older Ford build (including Flatty's) my boss is a frickin Ford GURU of sorts, has connections, and cud help....he LOVES those old Hi-Po heads, and said same, they are SCARCE!!!..just wanted to extend a hand if needed, i can be a resource for old Ford stuff.......just so ya know...(i dont think u'd need us, ur pretty snazzy on ur own) but, i DIG this build.....and for any future old Ford endevors......i can be helpful.......
Spring pockets, screw in studs, built in pushrod guides, two dots and 53cc combustion chambers. Definitely need to move up to 1.900/1.5-1.550 valves and bowl work.
Great Job!!! What I know because I’m a Ford guy. That head should be about 56-58cc. You will gain power by unshrouding the valves on the outside of the chambers. If its staying 289 I would emphasize the port and bowl work instead of bigger valves. So glad to see more variety!!! Best machine shop show on youtube for engine building!
Will be a nice engine! I have a 66 289 .030 over , small comp cam in it. Used to run it in 64 falcon, 8.10’s in the 1/8. Nothing special but very reliable!
WOW..!i cant belive the block & heads came out that good...!..they look like NEW...(on the video)..!..i never knew ford made a "closed chamber'd " head for a 289...!..they have 2 be better than "gold"...!..!..the 289 was around for what 3 years...?..(65 through 67..mayb 68 in production car)..?..GREAT choice 4 a video Daniel...!..it was a great little motor..!..IMO..!..as a 60+ yo...i cant wait for the next episode & the finish build...!..thank u...!..🙂
Ran into one of them hipos back in the 90s. I did the block prep, deck, bore, clean and chase all the bolt holes. My boss did the final hone. The heads were all done by me. Just a little bowl blending, a nice 4 angle valve job, and just a little unshrouding in the chamber. We balanced the engine and put it on the dyno. Everybody was very surprised at the power it made. It had a low profile intake with 2x4s and a dual point distributor. It was in a 66 mustang fastback.(2+2). Very nice car.
I was thinking of what Hagerty did for valves on a Chevy 283. They got valves with a +0.015 thicker stem. The valve heads were .030 larger than stock. They were able to ream the original guides and get valves just a little larger. I think he said the stock Chevy 283 had 1.72 and 1.50 valves. This gave him 1.75 and 1.53 valves. He did opt to deshroud the chamber. If the 289 hipo chamber is the right size, maybe deshroudibg is not needed at that size. Perhaps a small desroud pays off. I always preferred getting new valves for engibes that used leaded fuel. Not only did the lead ash help the exhaust seat live, it also helped the valve. By putting in new valves, those valves would last longer with unleaded fuel.
The hipo heads also had valve spring pockets cut into them for better springsThe blocks were usually stamped with the VIN # of the vehicle. I believe its above the oil pan rail driver side. But not all im sure were
Back many many years ago I used to work at an automotive machine shop. One of the things I did to these little motors including the 302s is I would install 351 cleveland two barrel heads on them. If youve ever looked at the 351 two barrel heads you would see that they have very nice ports, intake and exhaust. They will bolt right on but before doing that you have to flip them upside down and put them in a mill and punch 2 square water jacket holes to round 1.125" I believe it was and drive freeze plugs into the round holes. You can also flip it back over and mill the rocker arm bolt guides down to the flat surface and drill and tap the holes and put chevrolet aluminum roller rockers on them. Will make big power cheaply with those free flowing heads. I built one of these and it held the record at a local mud bog hole for its cubic inch size. As I said this was many many years ago really before any aluminum or performance cylinder heads were offered for these engines and I used domed pistons in them. Also built 460s for mud bogging offset grinding the stock cranks to increase stroke and cubic inch. Used big block chevrolet aluminum connecting rods with chevrolet journal size. There were no aluminum heads for the 460 back then so I used cobra jet heads on them porting and polishing. The only decent intakes back then were offenhouser, modified those to install 4500 dominator carbs and ran roller cams in them.
These 289's were a formidable package back in the day; tremendous performance out of little cubic inches. A little head/bowl work, a cam, headers and a set of gear and these were real runners; they just seemed to run out of breath at the top end on the street. Full race trim was a different story, history is full of data on the Shelby's.
The only real difference in the heads is the spring pockets, and screw in studs. All else is virtually identical to the others. ***** Install 16 new seats and gray iron guides. Nitride the cam and lifters. Cheap insurance.
Those lil engines really have the throttle response when built up. The heads will take 1.94/1.6 chevy valves but need unshrouding. The exhaust really needs port work. Its so undersized compared to intake, usually best to just enlarge them n leave intake ports stock or ur kinda ryt back to scratch
Looks great. I have a 289 in my 63 1/2 Galaxie 500 with 78k miles. Runs great but im use to big blocks. Not sure if I can do anything to the 289 to make a fast car. Has 411 rear gears and top loader. Fun to drive just slow. Set for 30 years the old couples garage and I fixed it up to make it road worthy. Didnt have to touch engine or trani. Just a carb and water pump. Love your post. I am an FE guy. Lots of them setting in my garage. Almost ready to put the 390 C6 back in my 72 camper special I have had since the early 70s .
Pretty neat ! Still got my 221 from 1962...( 3.5" bore) ... runs great...never rebuilt...maybe 80,000 miles on it. It's in a 16 foot flatbottom boat ... fun !
Looking forward to this build but surely it’s not worth spending the money on those ‘rare’ heads compared to a new set of alloys that probably provide better performance for less money. But…. If you’ve going to spend the money on the cast iron heads to keep it original then so be it. 👍🇦🇺
Oh god, this is giving me flashbacks to a 289 I built that took FOREVER because of surprise after surprise. Customer blowing me up almost every day thinking it should take no time because ''it's only a little 289''. ....with missing parts, unavailable pushrods in the size I need, zero new parts in warehouses, etc... And wanting a flat tappet cam, so I had to build a bore grooving tool.... Impossible to find springs I needed for the oddball valves and goofy cam. Customer wanted stock valve covers (with screw-in studs, and my HS rockers under there. Nightmare. Then, when I stay till about 3am finishing it for some 'important' car show deadline, call and say it's ready... Crickets.
I believe the 289 has the same bore as the 302 but a shorter stroke? What a fantastic little engine! I don't know why Chevy and Chrysler didn't follow suit. Off the top of my head i think the 273 had the smallest bore of them all. The ability to run bigger valves in the Ford helped it make more power than the others but then again port design also plays a role. The most power the 273 ever made was 275 hp; that was in the D-Dart. The 289 made as much as 385 hp in the Cobra; the 283 i'm going to have to research because i don't know.
If the heads need the full meal deal I would have brought aftermarket heads and sell the heads to someone that's trying to make a correct 271 hp engine.
That cleaned up pretty good. When I was younger i hung around some older guys that drag raced and they said they used to bury new blocks to "season" them have you ever heard of that?
Question: If you inadvertently bumped that camshaft with your elbow, as it is sitting upright like that on the old barstool, and the camshaft took a dive to the floor, would you fess up?
Is there any casting id numbers on them heads? My brother been running and collecting hipo 289s since we were teens I'd like to check if he has any closed chamber heads but they maybe on a running motor. He has a 65' hipo fastback k code 4 speed since we were kids My dad won it in a poker game back in the 90's. Also couple 65' merc comet's both with 289s lol
Once this gets around to the Ford purists, this comment section may go wild. I have a low mile 289hp with all original parts & factory paint markings . wished you would have shown these before cleaning block ( yup it's a Big deal ) to collectors. paint dabs in bellhousing area. was hoping you would have shown the main caps and spring pockets ..
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Great to see this old 289 revived properly and at stock stroke, heads etc. Big strokers are all great but sometimes its just good to see basic cool old stuff.
How refreshing to see some Ford motors. Especially this old school 289. Seen enough LS builds to last me a long time. Still waiting to see something really off the hook, but this little 289 should be fun. Joping you can talk them out of the flat tappet cam.
I got a couple real od balls coming up
@@powellmachineinc3179 hopefully you can convince the owner to go roller cam
Thank you for the Ford content. 289 Hi-Po pretty rare! Blocks are select with thicker main caps compared to std. 289s. Casting, core shift and deck differential tends to be better than most. Cranks are high nodular iron and Brinell-tested at the factory for hardness. The ONLY difference in the cylinder heads is the presence of screw-in rocker studs. The ports, valves and combustion chambers are identical to std. 289s. The engine, despite its small C.I.D. will respond well to slighter larger valves, a good 3-5 angle valve job, and pocket porting. Porting the upper portion of the intake ports to the gasket as far into the head as possible and performing the same with the intake manifold to ensure an equal transition with the heads. Enlarging and radiusing the upper portion of the exhaust ports can pay serious dividends. I've been building and competing with Ford engines, big and small. for more than 50 years. When I was growing up, non-Ford people used to laugh at the small Windsor V-8 Fords. Not so much these days. They've gained respect as a Legacy engine. If one took the time and built the engine in a methodical manner they were usually rewarded with a well-performing , reliable piece. That little engine has a lot going for it. Always did. It accomplished so much on the road and in many forms of motorsports through the years. B.T.W. That block and those heads look like they've been plated! Nice job. Look forward to more!
Definitely!!, should be a good build for sure
you forgot to mention cast in spring pockets..,valve springs & retainers also 289hp only
@@frankkoppen7281Yessir!
Little? It’s 4.7l for christ sake. The wide bearing caps are also on Mexico blocks. I’ve built quite a few SBFs. The Hipo is nice for historically correct numbers builds but otherwise nothing extra special.
@@odl21 In the era, 289 cubes WAS little for a V-8. The topic is HI-PO engines and comparisons made with other 289s available in domestic Ford vehicles of the day.
Great content on rarely seen engines!!
Definitely, ty
A diamond in the rough, or should I say a diamond in the rust. Looking forward to watching you go to work. Thank you for this wonderful content.
Wow, thank you!
Hey Daniel,
Tim here, just for an FYI, if you EVERY needed somethin for an older Ford build (including Flatty's) my boss is a frickin Ford GURU of sorts, has connections, and cud help....he LOVES those old Hi-Po heads, and said same, they are SCARCE!!!..just wanted to extend a hand if needed, i can be a resource for old Ford stuff.......just so ya know...(i dont think u'd need us, ur pretty snazzy on ur own) but, i DIG this build.....and for any future old Ford endevors......i can be helpful.......
Cool piece of history. That crank looks like a shiny new penny. Nice work!
Thanks 👍
Spring pockets, screw in studs, built in pushrod guides, two dots and 53cc combustion chambers. Definitely need to move up to 1.900/1.5-1.550 valves and bowl work.
love how fresh junk looks after being baked and dipped, I'm a ford girl so I'll be looking forward to this :)
Love the vintage cast iron content, can't wait to see the rework on the heads.
Great Job!!! What I know because I’m a Ford guy. That head should be about 56-58cc. You will gain power by unshrouding the valves on the outside of the chambers. If its staying 289 I would emphasize the port and bowl work instead of bigger valves. So glad to see more variety!!! Best machine shop show on youtube for engine building!
Thanks for the info!
Actually they're more like 53.5 cc.
I've done a bunch.
After big valves and chambers they run about 56+. Tiny ports.
mine are 56cc also with chevy valves
Will be a nice engine! I have a 66 289 .030 over , small comp cam in it. Used to run it in 64 falcon, 8.10’s in the 1/8. Nothing special but very reliable!
WOW..!i cant belive the block & heads came out that good...!..they look like NEW...(on the video)..!..i never knew ford made a "closed chamber'd " head for a 289...!..they have 2 be better than "gold"...!..!..the 289 was around for what 3 years...?..(65 through 67..mayb 68 in production car)..?..GREAT choice 4 a video Daniel...!..it was a great little motor..!..IMO..!..as a 60+ yo...i cant wait for the next episode & the finish build...!..thank u...!..🙂
That's what I thought too. He did an amazing job to this old rusty 289
Ran into one of them hipos back in the 90s. I did the block prep, deck, bore, clean and chase all the bolt holes. My boss did the final hone. The heads were all done by me. Just a little bowl blending, a nice 4 angle valve job, and just a little unshrouding in the chamber. We balanced the engine and put it on the dyno. Everybody was very surprised at the power it made. It had a low profile intake with 2x4s and a dual point distributor. It was in a 66 mustang fastback.(2+2). Very nice car.
Fantastic episode! Can't wait to see the progression of this build!
You and me both!
I was thinking of what Hagerty did for valves on a Chevy 283. They got valves with a +0.015 thicker stem. The valve heads were .030 larger than stock. They were able to ream the original guides and get valves just a little larger. I think he said the stock Chevy 283 had 1.72 and 1.50 valves. This gave him 1.75 and 1.53 valves. He did opt to deshroud the chamber. If the 289 hipo chamber is the right size, maybe deshroudibg is not needed at that size. Perhaps a small desroud pays off.
I always preferred getting new valves for engibes that used leaded fuel. Not only did the lead ash help the exhaust seat live, it also helped the valve. By putting in new valves, those valves would last longer with unleaded fuel.
One trick that works rather well fuelie chev valves cut the keeper grooves sweet
There just to big.
We put in 1.94/ 1.6 Chevy valves and unshrouded .200"
THAT IS FRIGGIN AWESOME!!!!!! Holy grail of 289 heads!!!!
Definitely
No big deal, power wise. Same as the regulars.
@@hotrodray6802 Maybe, but the cool factor trumps everything else!!!
I hope the next ford build is a 351 Cleveland
FE
This channel reminds me of visiting my Virginia realtives, eating crabs, clams, drinking beer and talking about cars.
Lol
reminds me of a build fella did , put 1969 289 heads on 351W , just had to open head bolt holes for half inch bolts . tork animal
This is going to be a great series.
Definitely
The hipo heads also had valve spring pockets cut into them for better springsThe blocks were usually stamped with the VIN # of the vehicle. I believe its above the oil pan rail driver side. But not all im sure were
Gonna be a fun build
Back many many years ago I used to work at an automotive machine shop. One of the things I did to these little motors including the 302s is I would install 351 cleveland two barrel heads on them. If youve ever looked at the 351 two barrel heads you would see that they have very nice ports, intake and exhaust. They will bolt right on but before doing that you have to flip them upside down and put them in a mill and punch 2 square water jacket holes to round 1.125" I believe it was and drive freeze plugs into the round holes. You can also flip it back over and mill the rocker arm bolt guides down to the flat surface and drill and tap the holes and put chevrolet aluminum roller rockers on them. Will make big power cheaply with those free flowing heads. I built one of these and it held the record at a local mud bog hole for its cubic inch size. As I said this was many many years ago really before any aluminum or performance cylinder heads were offered for these engines and I used domed pistons in them. Also built 460s for mud bogging offset grinding the stock cranks to increase stroke and cubic inch. Used big block chevrolet aluminum connecting rods with chevrolet journal size. There were no aluminum heads for the 460 back then so I used cobra jet heads on them porting and polishing. The only decent intakes back then were offenhouser, modified those to install 4500 dominator carbs and ran roller cams in them.
These 289's were a formidable package back in the day; tremendous performance out of little cubic inches. A little head/bowl work, a cam, headers and a set of gear and these were real runners; they just seemed to run out of breath at the top end on the street. Full race trim was a different story, history is full of data on the Shelby's.
The only real difference in the heads is the spring pockets, and screw in studs. All else is virtually identical to the others.
*****
Install 16 new seats and gray iron guides.
Nitride the cam and lifters. Cheap insurance.
Those lil engines really have the throttle response when built up. The heads will take 1.94/1.6 chevy valves but need unshrouding. The exhaust really needs port work. Its so undersized compared to intake, usually best to just enlarge them n leave intake ports stock or ur kinda ryt back to scratch
Looks great. I have a 289 in my 63 1/2 Galaxie 500 with 78k miles. Runs great but im use to big blocks. Not sure if I can do anything to the 289 to make a fast car. Has 411 rear gears and top loader. Fun to drive just slow. Set for 30 years the old couples garage and I fixed it up to make it road worthy. Didnt have to touch engine or trani. Just a carb and water pump. Love your post. I am an FE guy. Lots of them setting in my garage. Almost ready to put the 390 C6 back in my 72 camper special I have had since the early 70s
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Pretty neat ! Still got my 221 from 1962...( 3.5" bore) ... runs great...never rebuilt...maybe 80,000 miles on it. It's in a 16 foot flatbottom boat ... fun !
Don't forget the counter weight that goes between the crank timing gear and crank . Also the harmonic balancer is specific for a HiPo engine.......
Different rods
Looking forward to this build but surely it’s not worth spending the money on those ‘rare’ heads compared to a new set of alloys that probably provide better performance for less money.
But…. If you’ve going to spend the money on the cast iron heads to keep it original then so be it. 👍🇦🇺
Wow! The before and after.
Definitely
I love the hypo 289’s I have done a few
271 hp big bore short stroke !!!
This is gonna be good. I used to mess with 289's when I younger. Looking forward to this one!
Definitely
Oh god, this is giving me flashbacks to a 289 I built that took FOREVER because of surprise after surprise.
Customer blowing me up almost every day thinking it should take no time because ''it's only a little 289''.
....with missing parts, unavailable pushrods in the size I need, zero new parts in warehouses, etc... And wanting a flat tappet cam, so I had to build a bore grooving tool.... Impossible to find springs I needed for the oddball valves and goofy cam.
Customer wanted stock valve covers (with screw-in studs, and my HS rockers under there.
Nightmare.
Then, when I stay till about 3am finishing it for some 'important' car show deadline, call and say it's ready... Crickets.
Yep, it happens, definitely
@@powellmachineinc3179 Just like everytime I make the ''we DON'T do custom engines'' rule.
...then it gets broken.
Again. LOL
I've read about these 289 HPO's. Looking forward to watching you do your magic to one. Wish they went with a roller cam set-up.
Love the small block Ford content!
Glad u enjoy
Looking forward to this one!!
Hope you like it!
Awesome! One of my all time favorite engines.
I believe the 289 has the same bore as the 302 but a shorter stroke? What a fantastic little engine! I don't know why Chevy and Chrysler didn't follow suit. Off the top of my head i think the 273 had the smallest bore of them all. The ability to run bigger valves in the Ford helped it make more power than the others but then again port design also plays a role. The most power the 273 ever made was 275 hp; that was in the D-Dart. The 289 made as much as 385 hp in the Cobra; the 283 i'm going to have to research because i don't know.
chev did it was the 302 z/28 engine 4 in bore like the 289 with a 3 in stroke
Cleaned up nice good build series. 👍
this is going to be a really good one, i can feel it
Hope so
Going to be a good series.
Diamond in the Rough! Nice 👍🏻
Ty
Awesome content. Look forward to seeing this one come together.
You and me both!
Looking forward to this build my friend, I have learned much listening to you. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Glad to help
When done with this engine please update with a Dyno run please.
I haven't seen one of those in 40 years.
Bring, it on!
Lol, coming!
Will follow with interest............
Ty
nice proyect
Ty
I would have written off those heads, but wow they look amazing!
Definitely
If the heads need the full meal deal I would have brought aftermarket heads and sell the heads to someone that's trying to make a correct 271 hp engine.
Wow, been machining since early 90's, never seen a set of those heads either. Lol
Who'd have believed that was under all that rust ? I was expecting pitting a small family could move into .
Lol, me to, I was surprised
Yay ford month!!!!!
That cleaned up pretty good. When I was younger i hung around some older guys that drag raced and they said they used to bury new blocks to "season" them have you ever heard of that?
before you deck the block show the stamp # (build date code & assembler )on the drivers side top front , if it's still there.
if possible try to retain that #
Try to stop the decking machine right before it reaches the number.
Woohoo! Ford month!
Lol
Would love to see the rust cleaning process you did for this?
I dont think the valves are the limiting factor on those heads. It's a lot easier to build compression with a 3.4" stroke compared to a 2.87" stroke.
The goofy step in the valve job is factory ford
No doubt
That lil fella cleaned up right nice. Good job fellas
Yes, thanks
Thank you for your knowledge and videos USA 🇺🇸 TRUMP
I would put a hydraulic roller in it 💪🏻😎👍🏻
Absolutely
Could swear one of the vids he said no more flat tappets...
@@powellmachineinc3179 might need to get into the owners ear about it
Question: If you inadvertently bumped that camshaft with your elbow, as it is sitting upright like that on the old barstool, and the camshaft took a dive to the floor, would you fess up?
What do you think?
You should ask the customer to bring it by once it running.
Definitely
Is there any casting id numbers on them heads? My brother been running and collecting hipo 289s since we were teens I'd like to check if he has any closed chamber heads but they maybe on a running motor. He has a 65' hipo fastback k code 4 speed since we were kids My dad won it in a poker game back in the 90's. Also couple 65' merc comet's both with 289s lol
I wonder if there are any Mexican 289/302 blocks still around.
Once this gets around to the Ford purists, this comment section may go wild. I have a low mile 289hp with all original parts & factory paint markings . wished you would have shown these before cleaning block ( yup it's a Big deal ) to collectors. paint dabs in bellhousing area. was hoping you would have shown the main caps and spring pockets ..
Did they give you the name of the lake they dug that out of lol. Wow what a difference!!!!
Lol
Great, a change up. Learn some stuff about Fords.
Definitely
Yall aren’t hung up in the tornado warning mess are ya?
Na, worked right though it
What about the bin of two stroke barrels?
I will make a video next time
Does that engine have the small weight in front of the timing set? It's a 289 Hi-Po specific piece. If it's not there, it isn't a true Hi-Po.
What u see is all I was brought
@@powellmachineinc3179 Gotcha, I missed that. Fine work sir. It's nice to be able to freshen up things that are nice under all the grime and grit.
Do you have the ampro system? If so I need a picture of the gas valve on the after burner.
No, I farm it to another shop
What is an ampro system and afterburner?
@@salvatoregiovanni8967 oven and shot cleaning
Not putting hard exhaust seats in?
No, that's a old wives tale
Like these are already induction hardened or any cast head doesn’t need hard seats?
Nearly 50years ago I didn’t like those engines. They made them out of peanut butter.
I got jelly