Complete Bikepacking bag setup for $100... Almost worked
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- So I thought I could put together a rather nice bikepacking bag setup on a budget and apart from one bag that kind of didn't live up to the extremely high expectations I had for these dirt cheap bags, I think I manage to find some pretty good ones. Hopefully, you can find something useful in the other 3 bags.
ROCKBROS Top Tube Bag
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ROSWHEEL 8L (or 10L) Saddle Bag
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ROSWHEEL Attack Handlebar Bag (Not recommended)
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i love the $100 bag setup right next to the Dura-Ace levers lmao
😂
I love it when someone does videos like this. Saves me so much time looking for gear... Thanks!!!
Totally agree
Best video ever. Exposes all these 500k videos where they are paid to promote more expensive products. Someone who loves bikes giving great advice and actually showing how they fit AND TALKING ABOUT PRODUCTS THAT NOMAL PEOPLE CAN AFFORD. CLASS.
I just wear a backpack book bag like I do all 365 days a year since 1973.
I’ve ridden across USA 4x India 2x China, Aussie and Europe with a backpack.
Never had a problem. It’s kinda nice because people think I’m just riding across town
Even when I’m riding across a continent
LoL
I've got the Rock Bros bag and love it. Can fit a tire, spare tubes, my compact pump and some snacks
I have spent weeks researching all this. You've just answered all my questions in 12mins. Thanks.
I've bought exact same under-top-tube bag for my 26" mtb-country bike (one day rides), it holds spare tube, patches, multitool, sandwich, some cookies, banana, swimming trunks, left side pocket for a phone. Like you noticed - it allows space to lift bottle from seat tube holder. As my frame is small, bottle on downtube conflicts with a bag to an extent but shouldn't be problem on 28" (larger) frames.
After watching this video and comparing reviews online, I ended up going with a middle of the road set-up and outfitted my bike with Topeak Bags. They're definitely not cheap, but they are about half the cost of the higher end bags while being about "as good" in quality. If there's something I learned from backpacking, you don't go too cheap with the pack. It'll just end up breaking and carrying poorly and then you end up paying twice UNLESS, you can't afford something better then yeah, go cheap and use the hell out of it.
Sometimes you get lucky and what you get cheap ends up lasting you longer than the expensive stuff, but that's rare and you only find out by taking the chance and spending the money. I think that the Topeak set-up is a good compromise and they back their stuff up.
All my Amazon bags of other types (smaller bags) have all failed me in normal use. I'm done renting bags. I'd like to end up with something that'll last me for more than a year or a few rides.
I think $100 is a fair budget to start out with then one figures out what they need as their needs make themselves known. I think the premium bags are well worth their costs, but I don't need that much of a build for the riding I do.
I lucked out with the Topeak kit. Got a 15L Backloader for $125, the Toploader for $35 and a 6L Midloader for $65, all green and green's about $10+ more per bag. The black ones were noticeably cheaper.
I was going to get the Frontloader for around $75, but ended up using a 10L SealLine dry bag I have with a couple of cheap straps and an accessory bracket for a total of $40 ($15 for dry bag and $25 for bracket & straps) and it's a much stronger & more convenient set-up.
Thanks for this video. It helped me in my decision making. BTW, if you got stuck in the woods and couldn't move, you could invert that rear saddle bag inside/out and use it as a flag. Blue is the other color besides blaze orange that sticks out in the woods. It would make for a high visibility signaling device.
Hi How are Your Topeak bags doing?
Bought rockbross top tube and framebag because of this vid hhhhh so far served me great
My first time watching one of your videos. Excellent film production skills. Plus your very personal and honest presentation style along with your subtle sense of humor are great. Really enjoyed it and now subscribe. As a serious cyclist, I'll add... that's a badass OPEN! Hats off!
Nice, we went with a cheap setup because we didnt know how much use they would get but they've workout really well. Thanks for the video...
I've got the rockbros tail, frame, toptube and front handlebar bag x2. Had them all for a year. Use the tail bag for commuting and is holding up well. The whole setup I used for LEJOG. They were great. Front handlebar bag too. One hangs on top of the other and is great for easy access snacks etc. Can recommend.
do your knees rub on the frame or toptube bags? how wide are they?
I have a cheap amazon toptube bag that I got a long time ago and I never use it because I hate the knee rub
Do you use the Rockbros handlebar bag on dropbar handlebar or a wide bandlebar? I do have the accesory bag , frame and tail bag from roclbros and love them, just looking for a good alternstive for handlebars.
a friend of mine used the roswheels bags during a bike touring trip to Taiwan last year. I was using the revelate bags. we came to the same conclusion regarding the handlebar bag. he tried to modify the bag by switching to a shorter strap but it gave even more issues as the straps were not able to hold the bag and it fell off many times on the first 2 days of the trip. the seatpack was better but the material was quite thin and rubbing against the seat collar destroyed it as well.
Thanks for the great info. Consider buying lengths of Velcro to use as extra straps, there's not much it can't do. I also use it as a handbrake, lean the bike anywhere with Velcro lightly wrapped around the lever and handlebar. 😊
handbrake?
I bought that same roswheel handlebar bag and had the same problem with the straps being way too long. I got the roswheel frame bag at the same time and those straps were too short. I put the handlebar bag straps on the frame bag, and the frame bag straps on the handlebar bag to get it to work.
Justin Miner haha, nice hack!
I ran almost the exact same setup for two years now. Yes, it was not optimal, but perfect for starting my bikepacking journey
Would love to see an update of this , a lot more AliExpress etc brands doing what looks like decent stuff. Watched this first time around, and watching it again 👍
you found such good options! ty!
I use a rear rack and panniers, and it was not enough capacity. Added a small front rack, seat bag, and a second water bottle, better. Bought a Wald basket for more cargo capacity the large size is not heavy duty, so it would be a sleeping bag, tent, sleeping pad, laundry bag, sandal holder. Getting ready for the Great American Rail Trail.
So I spent 130GBP on a handlebar roll, 30 on a top tube bag, 100 on a half frame bag, & something like 150 on a seat pack. Total: £410 which sounds like a lot, but as I often use the thing off road, often fully loaded (which really tests the quality of the bags) & pretty much every single day, it was worth every penny. Revelate make incredibly functional & strong kit, Salsa a close second & Topeak are definitely better than Roswheel & Rockbros without breaking the bank. I'd never go lower than Topeak myself because I use this kit all the time & really load it up & ride off road. If I was a weekend warrior or just wanted to do one short tour, then I would definitely consider Roswheel &/or Rockbros.
i have the roswheel handlebar bag and found the same issue with the straps you did. i just took some old inner-tubes and cut 2 lengths of it then used those to wrap under the bag and up over the bars spaced to about where my bar tape ends before the stem. this seems to keep the bag from moving and because it is the tube rubber it wont mar anything up and will stretch to fit the bar bag in different configurations. this way the weight of the bag is supported from underneath so you wont have to worry about the webbing failing either. i have used a similar system to this for a number of trips and so far no complaints .. and as you pointed out it may not have some of the better features but at 1/4 of the cost.. hard to complain.
very economical set up bro.. im moving towards bikepacking now.. thank u for sharing.
I have used a big sleeping bag compression bag with a plastic bag and a strap. Put the handle loop over my seat, twisted it and tied a strap around it and through my saddle. I also used two rubber bands (cut from an old bike tire) to tie a bag between the handlebars.
Used it in summer in pretty good weather, with minimal gear on overnighters.
Cost me 0€
I like the idea of backpacking but I would hate actually doing it. Lol it's good to know it's more affordable than I previously thought, I guess. Thanks for making this video
I like Rockbros. Quality for cost, they are just right.
Handlebar bag is identical with Lidl bags sold in UK 3 years ago. I use one of them. I use a handlebar extension as well which fixes the problem with this bag. Regards,
Great review! Hey I like the Rockbros bags a lot, and they make a very high quality watrproof tail bag too. I use the Apidura waterproof tail bag and bought the Rockbros tail bag for my wife .. and to tell you the truth they are about identical in function and almost similar in quality! Except the Rockbros tail bag cost 1/3 as much and has a bit more capacity. She also got the larger Rockbros frame bag which I am envious of compared to my pricey Blackburn frame bag. I am not happy with my Apidura front roll bag, so looking for alternatives now - maybe Rockbros. She has been using the Rockbros stuff for a year now, and it is like new - just finished a 4 day trip today.
I am using Rockbros saddle bag 14l and handlebar bag. I think it is the same lineup as the frame and top tube bag, and the front one is very good, millions of ways to strap it to handlebar, comes with foams, has webbing on front, and both are pretty waterproof, don't ask me how I know it 🙃
Grig Hambardzumyan I was looking at the rockbros handlebar bag as well.. looks really nice, but was a bit more expensive and didn’t fit my goal for this project, looks like a better solution for sure though.
Is this not specifically for flat bars though?
@@codytoth5028 no, I used it and on flat and on drop bars, it works
@@hgh96 the 20L one?
@@codytoth5028 no it is 14L and as I know there is no 20l front bag by Rockbros
lol I just had a rear rack, layed a black plastic bag over it, strapped all my clothes and tent across the rack
My tent poles were laying forwards on the rack, I then strapped another black bag over the top and strapped it all down to the rack
I would use one of the bags and some soap to 'wash' my clothes and then strap my clothes across the top of the rack to dry with air
I had a few bits and bobs that i just stuffed into little pockets strapped down to the rack C02, spare tube and that, great fun : )
Have the bigger Rockbros bag and works very well. The multi place straps and very helpful and kept insides dry in an unintentional submersion.
Those Rockbro bags look of the same quality as the Rapha one’s. Wouldn’t be surprised if they’re the same. The markup would be huge!
pretty sure that the Rapha bags are made by Apidura
I've used a rockbros saddle bag for 4 years, no issues.
Would’ve gone slightly over the budget but Lezyne makes really cheap and quality bags. Their only downside is they aren’t waterproof just water resistant.
true waterproof is expensive to make compared to just coated fabric.
I had looked at some rockbros bags not that I plan on any bikepacking trips but it would be nice to have some snack storage. I have a small bag now for my multitool and other little odds and ends.
Snacks are important. How could you….
I have the front bag by Newbowler, same bag and price but with the flaws in the straps fixed. So top straps velcro on the whole strap and bottom one way longer.
I wish I saw this before I invested in my current bags. Great vid.
I have the same company bags. Luckily my handlebar bag is wedged in between my cables so it's snug.
I use the rockbros rear saddlebag. It's pretty large.
I use the company called moose treks full frame bag. Awesome bag so far.
On a budget? Get those bags 100%
Thank you for your research and honest opinion. I will look into these options.
I have been using that cheap Roswheel front harness for 2 years. Didn't think it will last more than a couple months but it did, not a tear, even the lame straps are doing ok. Hacked my Ortlieb Accessory Pack on it, the mount is reliable. The drybag is too tight though. I wouldn't really recommend it either but it's decent.
I have a hybrid bike that I added a back & front rack to. I use the traditional ortlieb 4 pannier set up when touring. If I am going out for a shorter ride, i just remove the panniers and use the ortlieb handlebar bag, frame bag(cost $16 on amazon)...and I have a topeak bag that slides into rails on the back rack. So i haven’t invested in any of the new expensive dedicated “bike bags”. I know some people love them, and I guess they make more sense if riding single track over a pannier set up....but I prefer my panniers set up. It’s all good tho. Whatever works for you.
Yours is the way to go. Keeps the centre of gravity low.
Great video man !Thanks a lot
That is one massive crank for Touring. One could cry climbing.
Thank you. I've been trying to get into bike packing so this video was very useful for me.
Saddle bag:
Just put a plastic bag in first, then add your stuff in. And voilà!
Webbing? Go to a good outdoor store and buy a bungee cord then either wrap it around or make a loop at the end and have it sewed to the bag.
I have used the roswheel saddle bag for over a year commuting and for a 2day bikepacking trip. Does the job, definitely not waterproof, and seams are starting to crack, and the rub with the seat bolt has created a hole. Overall, not bad for 29$
You tried spraying them with 3M waterproof spray?
@@NaeMuckle I'll try on the next one. after a year it has holes and cracks now.
Thanks
I just spent about 300€ for my bags. I compared cheaper options but more expensive bags are also much lighter and fully waterproof which saves me about 500g of dead weight
what bags are you using? 500 gr seems huge
@@losFondos Apidura expedition bags
thanks a lot ! Great content - as always! Keep up the great work!
I made my own bags, cause i hate bags with loads of straps/velcro/zips.
Cordura outer, fully welded construction +5000mm Hyrodstatic head. All secured with Voile straps. Prob not under $100 but stuff never gets wet.
Pictures, tutorial?
I don't have either, but if you head over to diypackraft.com there's plenty of info on that site on how to diy weld fabrics.
Just bought the latest roswheel waterproof bike packing bags these are called the attack series cheap as chips and fully waterproof
Very honest. Loved your video.
I'm voting with both of my hands for RockBros and RosWheel Chinese brands. I have lots of their equipment and it is usually good bang for the buck
Ivo Roilev Does the waterproofing really work on the RosWheel bags?
Yes for me RockBros was definitely the way to go
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Not my best video
But please tell me what do you thank
Man those rack for back packing starting to make good sense to protect the paint on the bike !
Almost - hell, that's close enough.
Dry bags, nylon straps and/or bungees. I have seen dry bags from six euros in t'Netherlands and on fleabay.
Just a small correction, I'm pretty sure those are suzumushi (some kind of cricket), not only cicada. I have thousands of them outside my bedroom window...
Great videos though. Keep it up!
Roswheel made a big investment in a new line. Designed by former Rapha designer Miles Gibbons. Good looking bags, much nicer than the roswheel stuff you purchased (which seems previous generation). Worth having a look if you are in the market for bike bags!
Correct, problem is the price went up as well... so the new ones was not an option for this little project.
The new ones looks nice though... played around with them at cycle mode Tokyo last year.
I just use a pair of kinda big rear paniards that i paid maybe $50 for. They are waterproof and seem very sturdy, and i can fit almost all my gear (including 2 person tent, 2 small sleeping bags, 1 inflatable sleeping pad, and my alcohol stove set) in just one of these, which leaves me with PLENTY of space for food or extra clothes or whatever i would want to bring.
Having all the weight on the rear wheel is not ideal for loose gravel or mud, but it works good enough (for me) on asphalt and dirt roads, so i dont feel any need to improve this setup...
Nice video, i was thinking about getting these cheaper bikepacking bags, but on second thought i decided to go with Ortlieb handle bar bag and gravel panniers, top tube bag and frame bag are from Blackburn, now i'm happy with my setup 😁
The issue is PRICE. That's what this video is about.
the two rockbros bags actually look quite premium at first glance; seem good value
I can totally recommend the handlebar bag. Done with it two trips (one week each). But I also replaces the straps. Than it worked for me.
a nice guy helmeted👍
Did you consider using triangle in-frame bag instead of rectangular one? You would have 2 bottles along low tube (assuming you have mounting points for this) and the space would be more efficiently used. I just recently bought handlebar harness from Polish company Triglav and it looks much better than both harnesses you showed -- mainly because it has bungee cord on top and other loops and "hooks" so you can easily attach whatever you want and the price is moderate, $50 (disclaimer: I tested it just on 2 rides now). Good addition to handlebar are super cheap bottle "holders" from Decathlon (BTwin). They are a bit thick so they keep the temperature of the drink in the bottle for some time, pity they are only in black. And they use the best straps I have seen so far, single sided velcro with silicon on the side, just perfect.
I don’t need much space for my short trips to a full frame bag has never been on my radar.
@@ridesofjapan Ok, just clarification, I was just referring to shape (triangle vs. rectangular), not size. Triangle bag would allow you to keep poles inside it.
Great video! Super informative, great production and entertaining as usual 👍 also just ordered the frame bag. Thanks!
Great video. And cicadas too
Very good and informative. Thank you
I bet you could do a hack with a zip tie or some other strap on the Roswheel front bag for that strap that doesn't reach around your down tube. It would reduce the bag bouncing. Surprised you didn't think of that.
Thanks for this. I may get some of the Rockbros stuff.
Spare set for a friend. Why not.
Hey there. Thanks. I just ordered both Rockbros bags. I'll let you know how it goes. Maybe. If I remember. Still, thanks.
Thank you!!! Really helpful.
I like your setup, I think I would just swap out the sausage bag in the rear for a large carradice bag. Which is about $100 by itself but imo it would be worth splurging on that one... but you could also find a cheaper bag in the same style
Nice review! I've been curious about these brands on Amazon. So glad you covered this topic.
I have been rocking a cheap ebay frame bag, love it!!!
Hydration hose goes through the zipper of Rockbros. Not the most elegant solution, but the rainproofing still works because of the zipper covers. 4:48
i went for the full rockbros setup (seatbag, framebag and frontbag) they look a lot like the ortlieb, and the seatbag is really really waterproff, it was 125 dollars the entire pack (4 bags, the 3 mentioned abobe and a small front bag that can be used with the big frontbag or alone)
Great! We hope see more ROCK BROS products!
On frame bags, you typically won't see many ports added to welded bags. The main benefit of welding is creating a fully waterproof bag, so effectively adding "holes" to it can defeat the purpose of using that method of construction.
To second what someone mentioned below, Rockbros is notorious for knocking off small company's designs and cost engineering to bring it in cheap. Google "rock brothers spurcycle" and check out the cyclingtips article. Fully legal, but kinda sleazy if you ask me.
To be fair, most companies "steal" or use ideas of other companies all the time. Look how many copywright lawsuits there are. It's an entire industry.
Great information as always, yeah, here in the outskirts of Madrid those damn noisy bugs are a pain too, I mean seriously some times it gets over bearing!
The heat here, well we hit up to 41°!!!
Now it's 36-38° still very hot for me at least. Your bike, and gear setup, very nice in deed all so clean :-)
Love your videos!!! Seeing bits of Japan is so fantastic, thanks for that too!!
Haha, for us living in the cold north lots of crickets and cycades are the epitome of holidays. They stand for cozy, warm evenings with lounge music and a glass of wine while enjoying the view at the stars and the yachts drifting in the marina.
Great video! I'm liking your content more and more every time. It would be great to have a follow up on this bags, to see how they age, how durable they are
Keep the good work, cheers
Cheers mate!
Will sell these bags most likely, while nice (3 of them) like I said in the video, neither will replace my “expensive” bags, so a long term follow up will be hard to do.
miss the rice fields..and the cicadas! ;-)
Thank you so much for making this video...These questions had just come to mind. Really grateful. Thank you!
Are you psychic? I was looking at most of this on Amazon the other day. And wondered if they would be worth my time or should I invest in the more expensive stuff! Thanks for taking the time to make it
He just uploaded my wishlist 😂
same!
Man I really enjoy your videos. You crack me up! Please keep them coming!
Very useful!
You could add water proof bags to go inside each bag which I do even if the bag claims it’s water proof, and you can spray water proof on each bag.
Water proof bag - wal mart price varies with size but I got a med one for 5-10
Can of water proof spray 7$ish
Once can should do all of those bags
the easiest way is to just put stuff in plastic bags before loading into frame bags. Spray coatings usually do not work well to keep water out after they get dirt on them, or a little wear. Plus seams are hard to seal.
Mark Connelly
Honestly I never had any issue with using water proof spray on my gear. I have dont this for years with my military gear that’s been used in combat and training / working in every environment imaginable around the world
@@reynaldorivera7641 what brand do you use? all the ones I used don't bead water when dirty or scuffed off.
Great! Thanks for the info and time spent. Topeak makes a great 'affordable' handlebar bag too that I really like, but I'd be hard pressed to pass up my Revalate Designs seat pack for anything else.
Yeah, definitely no reason for that!
Great video, love the delivery
Good video.
The Rockbros 8l frame bag is great, there are plenty of other ways to carry water more efficiently so maybe try a different tack.
Yeah boiiii Rockbros
Silicon boot / tent spray will waterproof all those bags quite well and inexpensively. The lowest cost solution that weights zero gr.
I'm sure you can easily find a double-sided velcro strap, cut it to the length you need and use that to extend the short strap from the handlebar bag. Loose bag problem solved.
I got my four Ortlieb panniers used on Ebay. No, it wasn't $100, but they are amazing.
Hello from Hokkaido, just earned yourself a new subscriber!
i was looking exactly at this 450$+ setup, thanks for the alternate and cheaper path :)
even cheaper more effective handlebar bag: dry bag plus velcro webbing.
Stitch I'Lalu that’s probably a better solution than this particular bag 👍
Awesome video
Very helpful
Good man! Thanks for keeping us cyclists informed. I may have to try out these bags for the wife’s bike as we just finished a 2 night bike packing trip. And will be doing another trip next month. She is working with panniers and fork mount setup
Did you try them?
@@k-mac5511 did not. Sorry
Rockbros makes great bags! they are so water prof that i use one of my bags to wash clothes in on longer trips.
-God price, i just love this brand.
very very nice! thank you mat!