Huge issue in the hardcore scene. Not to mention if you have any sort of success you’re met with being called a “normie”. Gatekeepers are most often jealous losers.
This is why I respect you as much as I do. I don't always agree with everything you say (I do here) but, you're always authentic. Authenticity is the punkest thing there is in my world.
Was a huge gatekeeper/elitest years back. I’m actually happier since I broke out of that. Really the only genre I can’t listen to is most country. There’s a few songs here and there that I like but it just doesn’t flow with me.
Lots of pop music I don't like but lots of pop music that I absolutely love. That's the cool thing about giving everything a chance - you'll find stuff you like where you maybe wouldn't have expected to
I wished someone had told me this back in middle school. I missed out on a lot of music that I love until I started branching out to new stuff in college.
I used to rip on Finn all the time for the way he always shits in ska but he put out an interview recently where he admitted that he actually loves ska and just shits on it to troll people lol
On the hating genres young women like. I think it comes down to anger that the women don't like the genre they like, and because they make it their personality, the women don't like them and so they take it personally. I used to be in this line of thinking. More so, though, against everyone, because I am actually friends with women. I hated people who like pop because I was under the mindset it was trash. But the gatekeepers eventually got to me and I realized pop is actually quite good and alot of the stuff I was told was good, was mid or even bad. If something is popular, usually there is a reason for that.
I was one of those "born in the wrong generation" type kids born mid nineties grew up listening to 60's and 70's music with my family. My music taste leans towards heavier or guitar lead music. Strange dark sounds. This could be that I am chasing nostalgia. I think young ears are drawn to poppy music. I was when I was really little. In my preteen years when I first started seeing myself liking more pop-punk and emo music. As I got older the less pop style I would listen to and the more rock I wanted to hear. I lean toward psychedelic and metal now. Maybe it's the way I grew up or my ears are just more drawn to it. One thing I always tell people that I never disregard all genres because there's always going to be a good song or artist in every genre.
Great message. Contrarian humor can be fun to make a point but being a serious contrarian isn't my jam. Really appreciate your encouragement for those of us who felt insecure about liking things, working to like things to want to fit in. Although, and I think your videos can help with this, we might need another perspective to help appreciate something more. Hope you and your family are well, Finn! Thanks again!
Solid point. As a guy who hit punk in 79 I never lost my taste for disco, country rock , funk. You just shed the genre junk and go for what works song and groove wise . Yeah I've learned about some cool stuff from you ,Tank, Nick Nocturnal, etc. But it's an add on to what I like not negating the stuff I like.
I have never understood gatekeepers. If another person likes SOME of the stuff you find interesting, that should make them a friend. So what if they like other things. It might expand your tastes and open you up to more appreciation of the larger world.
It is weird cause I grew up listening to pop before I ever did any kind of heavy music. I play instruments so music is music to me, there isn't just one way to prepare a meal or skin a cat and neither is there just one way to make a song.
My hate for pop is the way it is overplayed. The same 15 songs every where for 2 months, then on to the next 15 songs and those last 15 are forgotten. I can't listen to music that way.
Hell yeah Finn you are 100% right. Thank you for helping me realize my ignorant gatekeeping perspective, it has helped me to enjoy music more at the end of the day and that helps me to have a better life. I know it sounds cheesy but I'm serious. That's funny that you added at the drive in clips, they're so great but like literally anti pop haha. Good choice with that one
The title of this video does not only apply for music, but lifestyle as well (at least from what I see). It seems counterintuitive that the majority tries to become alt. By being “normal”, you are actually in a way being “punk”.
When I was 14 starting H.S. I thought taking German instead of French/Spanish like all the normal people was punk. This also continued into community college where I took Japanese. I was THIS close to wearing a Hakama & going full Tokugawa weeb. Instead, my long hair was used for music.
This is rich. You have the nerve to talk down to metal heads about gatekeeping when it's the pop elitist who keep anything underground from being shared on a massive scale. Leave us alone and go bother the Swifties and the Kpop fans. How about Beyonce fans? You find metal kids easy to scold because you're afraid of these pop fans taking your channel down. Admit it.
I wouldnt have put britney,bieber, and rodrigo in the same line of pop. Through time pop has down graded. Its one thing if someone hates all pop and doesnt give it a chance but if the modern pop we hear just sucks its not neccesarily being cool to dislike it theres just a lot more garbage now then we used to have back then
I don't hate pop music as a whole. With that being said, most new pop is horrible. These "artists" can't even come up with a melody or lyrics of their own. For example, "blue" has been ripped off and the copy plays on pop radio every day. I could go on and on. It's pathetic.
I hate Pop, because it bores me. And I always check out new pop songs. Its all too simplistic, copy and paste, and always seems too generic for my tastes.
Ha when I was younger I hated pop music so much I despised the year I was born 1994 when Curt Cobain died and Justin Bieber was born. To me it was "the year music died".
If anything I always disliked the punk scene (not the actual music) because it felt so unwelcoming. Which is ridiculous since it’s supposed to be about being yourself
Finn feeling dirty inside today, gotta make a vid to ease the guilt of bumping Charli XCX all night. Ironic; making an anti-gatekeeping video to promote his questionable music taste which ultimately turns into gatekeeping itself, because only REAL punks got some lame, safe, overproduced pop music in their shuffle que
Personally don't care for today's "pop". Now 80s and 90s 😍 listened to it b4 getting into punk and I don't forget my past. Throw on enjoy the silence and will be singing away
I used to be a metal elitist but then I went to a Killswitch Engage/Memphis May Fire show just to take a friend who was into them who’d never been to a show and met a girl and got laid. Still not into the music but it’s hard to hate now.
Huge issue in the hardcore scene. Not to mention if you have any sort of success you’re met with being called a “normie”.
Gatekeepers are most often jealous losers.
This is why I respect you as much as I do. I don't always agree with everything you say (I do here) but, you're always authentic. Authenticity is the punkest thing there is in my world.
Was a huge gatekeeper/elitest years back. I’m actually happier since I broke out of that. Really the only genre I can’t listen to is most country. There’s a few songs here and there that I like but it just doesn’t flow with me.
Lots of pop music I don't like but lots of pop music that I absolutely love. That's the cool thing about giving everything a chance - you'll find stuff you like where you maybe wouldn't have expected to
I wished someone had told me this back in middle school. I missed out on a lot of music that I love until I started branching out to new stuff in college.
Neither does hating ska
I used to rip on Finn all the time for the way he always shits in ska but he put out an interview recently where he admitted that he actually loves ska and just shits on it to troll people lol
Kali, you gotta learn to loosen up and laugh at jokes my man! Can't go through life being this uptight about ska of all things
@@FinnMckentyPRMBALol I was kidding dw
Me, about punk: You've become the very thing you chose to destroy.
On the hating genres young women like. I think it comes down to anger that the women don't like the genre they like, and because they make it their personality, the women don't like them and so they take it personally. I used to be in this line of thinking. More so, though, against everyone, because I am actually friends with women. I hated people who like pop because I was under the mindset it was trash. But the gatekeepers eventually got to me and I realized pop is actually quite good and alot of the stuff I was told was good, was mid or even bad. If something is popular, usually there is a reason for that.
I was one of those "born in the wrong generation" type kids born mid nineties grew up listening to 60's and 70's music with my family.
My music taste leans towards heavier or guitar lead music. Strange dark sounds. This could be that I am chasing nostalgia. I think young ears are drawn to poppy music. I was when I was really little. In my preteen years when I first started seeing myself liking more pop-punk and emo music. As I got older the less pop style I would listen to and the more rock I wanted to hear. I lean toward psychedelic and metal now. Maybe it's the way I grew up or my ears are just more drawn to it.
One thing I always tell people that I never disregard all genres because there's always going to be a good song or artist in every genre.
Great message. Contrarian humor can be fun to make a point but being a serious contrarian isn't my jam. Really appreciate your encouragement for those of us who felt insecure about liking things, working to like things to want to fit in. Although, and I think your videos can help with this, we might need another perspective to help appreciate something more.
Hope you and your family are well, Finn! Thanks again!
Solid point. As a guy who hit punk in 79 I never lost my taste for disco, country rock , funk. You just shed the genre junk and go for what works song and groove wise . Yeah I've learned about some cool stuff from you ,Tank, Nick Nocturnal, etc. But it's an add on to what I like not negating the stuff I like.
Yes!!! Like... Keep the gates open for pop, defend them from punk so we have balance. 👌
Does liking pop make you more punk? Who cares, just like what you like.
I hear free thinkers are dangerous.
I dont always agree with what you say but this time I am with you 100% .
I have never understood gatekeepers. If another person likes SOME of the stuff you find interesting, that should make them a friend. So what if they like other things. It might expand your tastes and open you up to more appreciation of the larger world.
It is weird cause I grew up listening to pop before I ever did any kind of heavy music.
I play instruments so music is music to me, there isn't just one way to prepare a meal or skin a cat and neither is there just one way to make a song.
Aww man.. I've hated pop my whole life just in hopes to be more punk.. 😢
My people, just remember that both heaven and hell both have gatekeepers and your taste in bands dictates where you're allowed access.
My hate for pop is the way it is overplayed. The same 15 songs every where for 2 months, then on to the next 15 songs and those last 15 are forgotten. I can't listen to music that way.
Hell yeah Finn you are 100% right. Thank you for helping me realize my ignorant gatekeeping perspective, it has helped me to enjoy music more at the end of the day and that helps me to have a better life. I know it sounds cheesy but I'm serious. That's funny that you added at the drive in clips, they're so great but like literally anti pop haha. Good choice with that one
The title of this video does not only apply for music, but lifestyle as well (at least from what I see). It seems counterintuitive that the majority tries to become alt. By being “normal”, you are actually in a way being “punk”.
Finally someone has said this
When I was 14 starting H.S. I thought taking German instead of French/Spanish like all the normal people was punk. This also continued into community college where I took Japanese. I was THIS close to wearing a Hakama & going full Tokugawa weeb. Instead, my long hair was used for music.
Lol same with me for German
This is rich. You have the nerve to talk down to metal heads about gatekeeping when it's the pop elitist who keep anything underground from being shared on a massive scale. Leave us alone and go bother the Swifties and the Kpop fans. How about Beyonce fans? You find metal kids easy to scold because you're afraid of these pop fans taking your channel down. Admit it.
I'm sure a lot of successful punk artists also enjoy some pop music.
Every Rockstation in Germany is like that. I don't get it, why they need such shitty Attitude.
Hating pop made me more punk when I was 16 though, right?
I wouldnt have put britney,bieber, and rodrigo in the same line of pop. Through time pop has down graded. Its one thing if someone hates all pop and doesnt give it a chance but if the modern pop we hear just sucks its not neccesarily being cool to dislike it theres just a lot more garbage now then we used to have back then
I don't hate pop music as a whole. With that being said, most new pop is horrible. These "artists" can't even come up with a melody or lyrics of their own. For example, "blue" has been ripped off and the copy plays on pop radio every day. I could go on and on. It's pathetic.
I hate Pop, because it bores me. And I always check out new pop songs. Its all too simplistic, copy and paste, and always seems too generic for my tastes.
True shit.
Ha when I was younger I hated pop music so much I despised the year I was born 1994 when Curt Cobain died and Justin Bieber was born. To me it was "the year music died".
Word! Popularity is the hallmark of mediocrity: not always true actually!!
I could never get into punk because of how homogeneous it was
If anything I always disliked the punk scene (not the actual music) because it felt so unwelcoming. Which is ridiculous since it’s supposed to be about being yourself
Exactly
Finn feeling dirty inside today, gotta make a vid to ease the guilt of bumping Charli XCX all night. Ironic; making an anti-gatekeeping video to promote his questionable music taste which ultimately turns into gatekeeping itself, because only REAL punks got some lame, safe, overproduced pop music in their shuffle que
Exactly. If you don’t listen to Ariana Grande you aren’t punk.
I mean top 40 is mostly trash, but to each their own
Personally don't care for today's "pop". Now 80s and 90s 😍 listened to it b4 getting into punk and I don't forget my past. Throw on enjoy the silence and will be singing away
Yes mate 🤛🤛
Yes 👏 🙌
You're talking to someone 20 years ago finn. Nobody cares in 2023.
Well you clicked the video and commented so
... and trying to convince others that banal, formulaic 3 minute songs should be more appreciated because you do is a little demeaning.
This information is outdated
I used to be a metal elitist but then I went to a Killswitch Engage/Memphis May Fire show just to take a friend who was into them who’d never been to a show and met a girl and got laid. Still not into the music but it’s hard to hate now.
Are you saying Killswitch is pop?
Pop music is 🗑.
Funny thing is Punk is objectively bad compared to Pop.. Compared to anything really..
Yes
Bieber is a fucking incredible talent, I don't listen to him but he's an incredible kid that's got the entire package
Why you looking at his package??
@@fernandosepulveda7297 ah homophobia, the tell tale sign of a butt rock Chad...