The way Gollum fell clutching the ring to his chest is heart breaking. The ring wasn't placed on his finger, he wasn't hunting its power in his last moments. He was clutching the only object that never left him. He died hugging his safety blanket and likely his only friend in his mind.
Yeah, except the ring literally did leave him. . for Bilbo. . of it's own free will nonetheless. Gollum is one of the saddest characters ever imagined. I nearly cry every time I see the opening to The Two Towers. The poor critter is corrupted instantly upon seeing the ring, and on his birthday he murders his best friend/cousin for an artifact which will only bring him a half of a millennium filled with suffering, madness, and raw fish.
Gollum was addicted to the ring. Hobbits had a strong immunity but they were not completely immune. The one ring has its own will and is a part Sauron himself. Ring is like golden heroin but 1000000000000000000 stronger and it never ends, you take it but once you get addicted to it you cannot quit it. Gollum's consciousness was divided into two parts one that wanted to posess the ring at every moment and the other the poor Smigaeol who was hidden deeply inside Gollum... Frodo had nearly reached that part and was able to make him "Human" again but it was to late, the destruction of the ring meant the death of Gollum also and he found out about that fact because once you spend 500 years with something that powerful as a creature who has no power at all you can't manage to live without its effect... Very tragic character, seriously
It is indeed ironic that the one true ring was destroyed at the cost of Gollum's tragic life. At least he was happy to be with his "Precious" when he died.
LotR is one of the best trilogies ever. Glad you're doing a video on Gollum, as he's one of the more interesting characters in a franchise filled with interesting characters.
@@J3RCULES The last star wars trilogy is a joke come on. The best Star wars trilogy was the original then the prequel even if it was criticized and has its flaws, it’s still better than the disney one. Harry Potter will be forever first in my heart because of the characters and universe but I must say LOTR is a masterpiece of worldbuilding.
I feel so sorry for gollum, its quite heart breaking seeing someone so happy, so clever, so sharp be corrupted by this ring, killing his best friend for it, being bullied for murdering him and coughing 'gollum' and he was banished from his home, he spent hundreds of years crying in sadness in the mountain, the ring corrupting his mind, there was a glimmer of light in his mind left, which in the movie is represented as 'smeagol' or the happy personality for gollum. and eventually the thing ho loved the most, the ring, caused his death.
Sam's speech at the end of the Two Towers even touched Golum's heart as you can see the diference in who is who in their pupils (small pupil is Gollum, large is Smeagol) which means he is just bad but not evil
Which version are you listening to? I hope (for your own enjoyment) the umabriged version red by Rob Inglis? They are in my opinion so much superior to the abriged versions as they contain every single word written in the books.
There is Phil Dragash's version which is more immersive with dramatization and music from the movies. However i do love Rob Inglis voice and his singing i end up singing with him lol.
The fact that beings like hobbits can turn into a twisted being like gallum or elfs can turn into ugly orcs just shows thay at the end no one is truly incorruptable. "You see madness is like gravity,all it need is a little push!"
There said to be the truth. The first Dark Lord "Melkor/Morgoth" on how he created his army of darkness is through "corruption". He never have the power to create things since he never got the "Secret Fire" that his father/creator "Eru Illuvatar" used to woven the song of creation of his children angel-like entities the "Ainur" to make "Ea The Universe" and "Arda The World". He kidnapped some Elves who awoken on the First Age and twisted them to become "Orcs". The Dragons were unknown but believed to be origin to some beast found on Middle Earth. Along with other fantastic creatures that roamed the land and sky to be twisted and corrupted to his own making. That aside includes the Balrogs that originally as the lesser Ainur as Maiars. The darkness of Tolkien universe is born from twisted corruption. Except for the Ungoliant that no one knows since its belief came from the Void as the Primordial Evil.
pyropulse IIRC elves can't be force bred because experiencing such a traumatic event causes them to lose the will to live and they immediately die. I do think orcs did come from elves, but no idea how
Gollum is indeed the most tragic character, he killed his best friend due to the corruption of the ring, so much so that the second he was denied the ring, he was no longer seen as a friend, but as an obstacle, didn't even bat an eye after he killed him.
The Smeagol vs Gollum moments are some of the most disturbing moments in this film series. It’s just so intimate and filled with pathos...a seriously uncanny representation of someone who’s irreparably lost his mind.
Gollum is a masterpiece of character creation for a tragic antagonist character. Tolkien wrote him perfectly, the director and effects team adapted him perfectly (especially given the technology of the time), and then Andy Serkis took it to an entirely new level.
I do like the touch from Tolkien with how pity and compassion ultimately is the reason why the heroes win because several times in the main story they have chances to kill Gollum which most people would after seeing his deformed figure and being attacked by him but chose instead to leave him be, which as this video points out paid off in the end with Gollum taking the ring away from Froto and then quickly dying
Gollum...the unexpected hero of middle earth and truly an awful reminder of what corruption can do to you. Absolutely loved his appearance in the Rankin Bass animated films, and adds to the horror that THIS was once a Hobbit.
In the scene just after Frodo escapes from Shelob, Smeagol's reaction to Frodo saying, "I've got to destroy it," is interesting. It seems that Smeagol never cared to question why they needed to go to Mordor in the first place, since he was so fixated on the Ring itself. Right after Frodo's intentions were made clear to him, Smeagol immediately dropped his charade and attacked him. This makes me believe that if Smeagol knew their plans right from the beginning, he would have been entirely unwilling to cooperate with them, and would have kept trying to kill them at every opportunity.
No, i think this was just a moment in which his struggle between Smeagol personality and Gollum personality was lost. But the corrupted personality was with him all the time. I dont remember if he knew the plan of destroying the ring but he tried kill them at one opoortunity while working on making next oportunity (with leading hobbits to the Shelob, in book he lead both of them, not Frodo alone, in movie he was whispering paranoia to Frodo so to make Frodo split with Sam because he realised Sam would break his plan). He was not able to keep trying, as they were 2 vs 1 and Frodo had the Sting.
One major difference between the books and the movie is that, in the books Gollum always planned to kill frodo and Sam, right from the beginning. It had nothing to do with Faramir capturing him
I remember watching the Return of the King in a Sasebo, Japan theatre and the opening scene was so powerful I stayed for the entire movie having not even saw the first 3 movies. The way it split his mind was heartbreaking. Sméagol was an innocence lost that the character tried so hard to hold onto while the ring had molded him into Gollum. The way the character died was sad and yet poetic.
Amazing vid! I've been a casual lord of the rings fan for years, and I knew the tale of smeagol inside and out, but the way you simplified the story and get amplified its defining traits really does impress.
Shmeagel is the actual true ring bearer, no mortal being can or has lived as long as Shmeagel with the ring, and after he looses the ring he still retained his ability to live far beyond his natural life span in efforts to find the ring again.
You did the character of Sméagol justice. Even reading from the book of his story. However you did miss out a crucial piece. You forgot to mention how he slowly went through Mirkwood to Dale and Erebor where he overheard the stories of Bilbo and that he came from the west and how he slowly went backwards in the direction of the Shire, and during this time there were stories of the ghost who would snatch babies from the crib or a plate of fish from the open window, and how they called him the ghost that drank blood, and how this new food source began to give him strength again before he went south to Mordor.
bear in mind it was an almost always active and volatile Volcano, any defenses made would simply be destroyed by the tremors and magma, and orcs being naturally cowardly creatures would most likely not see it as worth risking their lives for.
In his mind, Sauron had no need to guard Orodruin, even once he knew the Ring had been found. Like Gandalf says, "That we should try to destroy the Ring itself has not yet entered into his darkest dream.” Sauron couldn't comprehend that someone would seek to destroy it. Sauron was right, in a sense- even Frodo couldn't will himself to do it. It was only cast into the fire by sheer luck (or fate).
Similar to the points raised about the defences being vulnerable to the unstable nature of Mt Doom, there is also the factor that no being could possibly withstand the corruption of the ring. Frodo, a hobbit, one of the purest creatures possible to attempt it, failed and it was only destroyed in an accident caused by an act of pity on a creature that everyone expected to die. Sauron had no real reason to guard that location, only have forces ready to intercept once he knew someone was there, which he did, as seen with the Fellbeasts turning in the air to go back towards the entrance.
Yoda reached 900 years of age using the Light side of the Force Smeagol used the One Ring and reach 589 "When 900 years old you reach, look as good, you will not huh?" :)
Yoda was an asshole, too. Sure, he claimed to be a well-intentioned one, but he helped create more problems, rather than stopping them. His biggest failure was Anakin Skywalker.
@@Schoolgirl325 Anakin Skywalker did what he was prophesized to do. He brought balance to the Force. After he was done, there were only Two Jedi's and two Sith, there WERE dozens of Jedi before.
@@MistahBryan I know, but the most tragically frustrating part of Anakin’s fall to Vader is just how easily it could have been prevented, not just by himself, but by Obi-Wan, Yoda, and pretty much every adult in the Jedi Order with power over him. Obviously, Anakin had C-PTSD symptoms from slavery, and he did become selfish in his desperation and become an addict. However, Yoda, Obi-Wan, and the Jedi Council exacerbated those symptoms by arrogantly sticking to their inherently abusive and morally hypocritical system. They said they were all for “democracy” whenever it benefitted THEIR Republic, but Yoda essentially ran the Jedi Order of Anakin’s time like a dictatorial cult. They helped out slavers whenever they were part of the outer rims, including on Anakin’s home planet, Tattooine. Qui Gonn left Anakin’s mom in slavery. Yoda and the Council reinforced that slave mindset in Anakin by encouraging him to defer his moral compass to “a greater good” of the galaxy. They forbid Anakin from having his own personal life and relationships outside of their order. Yoda deliberately cut off his recruits from the outside world to make them feel obligated to stay with the Jedi forever. Even if they did decide to leave, he and the Council did nothing to help them out, and shamed them if they did. Obi Wan, Mace Windu, and Yoda allowed for Anakin to speak to Chancellor Palpatine alone when he was a child under their care when Palpatine vaguely threatened to take away the Jedi’s power in the government by ruining their public reputation if they refused. Obi-Wan, Yoda, and the Council gaslit Anakin for being “dangerous” right off the bat from day one, even before he did anything morally reprehensible, simply for missing his mom who Qui Gonn left in slavery on Tattooine, and refused to let him keep in touch with. This gaslighting and victim blaming of Anakin for growing to distrust and resent Obi Wan and the Council went on for 14 years until he had a mental breakdown after dealing with their emotional abuse and emotional neglect for so long that he decided to turn to the dark side in the heat of the moment in his fear and desperation of losing his wife, and then became high/corrupted on the dark side of the force. He’d already shown signs of not being able to handle just the light side of the force because Yoda, Obi-Wan, and the Council had made him such an emotionally/mentally unbalanced adult, but they ignored it. He’s more culpable for his crimes than Smeogel/Gollum because, in spite of showing several symptoms of poorly treated/severely neglected symptoms of BPD, C-PTSD, and a substance abuse issue, Anakin did still have enough sanity of mind to generally realize that what he was doing felt morally reprehensible and selfish. If Vader were as far gone as Gollum, he wouldn’t have been able to atone for his sins/redeem himself by sacrificing his life to save Luke at the end of ROTJ. He wouldn’t have sought out Luke after finding out he was son in ESB. Gollum only has vague flashes of remembering that he was Smeoagle that manifests in DID. Darth Vader seems to be aware that he is still Anakin Skywalker, but is willfully in-denial of that man’s existence after getting left to burn up and put into that life support suit because he doesn’t think he has or deserves a better choice in his own self-hatred and fear to do better with his slave mindset with such compromised/limited agency. Padme is dead, at least in part, because of him, even if not intentionally. The only Jedi left who he cared for and cared for him left him to burn alive. Yoda was constantly preaching a dogma that once a Jedi goes dark, they can’t go back to the light when he was growing up. Even if he did try to take down Sidious and escape to go back, it would be highly risky and unlikely because, at least in the original canon and EU before Disney took over and started ruining previously established canon, Anakin’s strength was greatly compromised after his injuries on Mustafar and that life support suit causes him pain, healthy support is limited to nonexistent. I think you could argue something along the lines of diminished actuality/diminished capacity for Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader as a criminal defense because of a lifetime of abuse, emotional neglect, compromised agency with limited to nonexistent healthy support options, safe escape options, drug intoxication when committing those crimes, and poorly treated/severely neglected BPD and C-PTSD symptoms, but he still had enough sanity to always know he was still Anakin Skywalker and ultimately realize he was committing crimes. Smeoagle/Gollum genuinely did become totally batshit insane after getting that ring, and, for the most part, there was no sort of healthy support. Samwise Gamgee is basically to Frodo what Obi-Wan, Yoda, and the Council should have been to Anakin when he was with them. Sadly, that was not what we got, and we got Vader instead. At least, he came back to the light for Luke in the end.
@@Schoolgirl325 holy frakking site! You're arguing like a Defense Attorney in a legal case for against a fictional character from a fictional race :) You made your point, I agree Yoda could have done a much better job as a Jedi Master.
@@MistahBryan He wasn’t just a Jedi master. Yoda was the head of the Order for 800+ years. Even before Anakin fell to the dark side, he had another padawan Dooku go dark before him. The problem is that Yoda was too afraid to say to no to a corrupt government/Republic in his fear of losing power “for the greater good,” and everyone else in the Order became too afraid to say no to him because they had nothing else outside of the Jedi to fall back on safely after he cut them off, even if they did want to just leave. Basically, everyone in the Jedi and Republic government before Luke ultimately let themselves be ruled by fear, and in the end that destroyed them. In the end, Anakin seemed to fully accept that he knowingly allowed for all of those horrible things to happen and did all those horrible things for the Jedi Order and Sidious because he was afraid, not for Padme, or for “the greater good” through Luke’s inspiration. In the movies, Obi-Wan and Yoda never seem to learn that lesson, though.
My favourite trilogy/franchise. And the most consistent as well. It was sad what happened to Smiegel. And for some odd reason this video almost most broke me. If I had to guess why, I would say that I see a little of myself in Gollum, as the world in its current state has left me feeling alone and unwanted. To the point that even in sunny days I feel cold. Hopefully this feeling of sadness won't last. There are many days that I do feel happy, and even great at times. But mostly I feel like I'm insignificant.
It pains me to say it, I have never been a fan of the Lord of the Rings (movies or books), but this video actually makes me want to dive into the Hobbit and LotR saga and try to watch it completely for the first time.
Gollum is such an interesting and unique character his journey into his mental breakdown was done extremely well with the films Andy serkis is a legend .
@@filmcomicsexplained dont ignore the new details revealed recently of Eternal, it was confirmed not just that he IS NOT The Betrayer, but he also has a lot of hobbies, like reading books from across the multiverse, playing Heavy Metal with his Argent powered electric guitars or defy the laws of physics with his skateboard.
I love LOTR, but I also loved your Interstellar video which is desperately in need of part 2!! I have been repeatedly asking as it's been 2 years now and I would love to see the final part :D
From the pronunciation guide of The Silmarillion: C---always has the value of k, never of s; thus Celeborn is ‘Keleborn’, not ‘Seleborn’. Cirith Ungol is, therefore, pronounced as "Kirith Ungol".
Just watched ROTK with my gf, so that opening scene was fresh on my mind. I wonder if Gollum would have be allowed on a boat into the West if he had survived the War? Could Frodo and Gandalf convince the Elves to let him find rest on Tol Eressa?
Gollum/ Smeagol would have withered up and died soon after the ring was destroyed, anyway. He had lived hundreds of years beyond his specie's life span, only due to the powers of the ring. He was bound to the ring forever, nomatter how you slice it.
The hiss and cry at the end there is a perfect summary of the character. It’s always fascinated me as he was one of the first CGI characters I ever saw as a kid
Gollum is one of the most tragic and memorable characters of all time... not least because of Peter Jackson... the technical greatness and the amazing Andy Serkis that brought Gollum to life. Part of me felt heartbroken that Gollum had to die yet another part felt that he was finally free from all his inner torment. Thanks for putting together such a great tribute to one of literature's greatest characters.
Gollum was strong because he withstood the effects of the One Ring after wearing it. But Frodo resisted wearing the One Ring and only gave up at Mt. Doom where he was overpowered. Frodo was strong too... just on a different level.
As the Ring got closer to Mt Doom, its power intensified. So much so, that Frodo could no longer resist its will and thus became subject to it. But, the God of Middle Earth, who goes by the name Eru Illuvitar, knew this would happen and had a master plan. Gandalf had some prophetic insight to this when he declared that when Bilbo spared Gollum’s life, that simple act of mercy would precipitate something at a later time, a role that Gollum was yet to fulfill. Without Gollum fighting Frodo at the precipice inside Mt Doom, the plan to destroy the Ring would have been frustrated and Frodo would have walked away with the Ring just as Isildur had done before. By a pre-planned act of fate, Gollum fulfilled what had to be done, though Gollum was completely unaware he was part of that plan.
There’ll never be another author like Tolkien. Linking the realities of the current politics of the day, with this impossible fantasy is very touching to both read and watch. Unadulterated, thorough genius.
You guys know Andy Serkis is a method actor? In preparation for this role, he spent three years living like Gollum did to really get himself into the role.
The 1 aspect of Gollum betraying Frodo & Sam I have. Is it's based off of what amounts to a small misunderstanding. If Frodo at any point explained to Smeagol/Gollum, that he actually saved his life in the forbidden pool. Smeagol would've likely continued his trajectory towards redemption. Abandoning the Gollum side of his split personality for good. It's just something that's always bugged me. As for all of Smeagol/Gollum's shortcomings... He was indeed quite intelligent. And I believe he would've understood Frodo's plite after being captured by Faramere?! Great video btw, keep up the great work!👍👍
Great video! I love Andy Serkis, hes super talented. I saw a movie with him in it where him and his brother kidnap a chick for ransom and end up fighting some leatherface looking guy. Can't remember the name of it tho.
Gollum is my favourite character in lord of the rings such an interesting character I can't help but feel sorry for him he wasn't evil he was just twisted and tourtered by the rings power I wish he lived at the end of return of the King Rest in peace smeagol you beautiful character
I wrote a short report pertaining to whom was the true hero of Lord of the Rings back in university where I used Gollum/Smeagol as a contender and how when he fell into the lava, it could be interpreted as the flames burning away Sauron's darkness and Gollum's sins. Quite literally since his evil acts were caused by and tied to the One Ring. Bit of an irony that a dark lord of evil needed flame to forge his greatest creation, when flame casts light, and can also unmake darkness.
The way Gollum fell clutching the ring to his chest is heart breaking.
The ring wasn't placed on his finger, he wasn't hunting its power in his last moments.
He was clutching the only object that never left him.
He died hugging his safety blanket and likely his only friend in his mind.
He's a very tragic figure that illiterates power
corrupt's everyone.
He literally saves the world and doesnt even know it
@@AlphaQHard gravity: am I a joke to you?
Yeah, except the ring literally did leave him. . for Bilbo. . of it's own free will nonetheless.
Gollum is one of the saddest characters ever imagined. I nearly cry every time I see the opening to The Two Towers. The poor critter is corrupted instantly upon seeing the ring, and on his birthday he murders his best friend/cousin for an artifact which will only bring him a half of a millennium filled with suffering, madness, and raw fish.
Gollum was addicted to the ring. Hobbits had a strong immunity but they were not completely immune. The one ring has its own will and is a part Sauron himself. Ring is like golden heroin but 1000000000000000000 stronger and it never ends, you take it but once you get addicted to it you cannot quit it. Gollum's consciousness was divided into two parts one that wanted to posess the ring at every moment and the other the poor Smigaeol who was hidden deeply inside Gollum... Frodo had nearly reached that part and was able to make him "Human" again but it was to late, the destruction of the ring meant the death of Gollum also and he found out about that fact because once you spend 500 years with something that powerful as a creature who has no power at all you can't manage to live without its effect... Very tragic character, seriously
It is indeed ironic that the one true ring was destroyed at the cost of Gollum's tragic life. At least he was happy to be with his "Precious" when he died.
He never had any real idea what was going on
“How ironic...Sméagol could love the ring, but not himself.”-Palpatine
did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Gollum the Unwise?
“Not from a Jedi”
D Shack gooooood, hence forth you shall be known as, Darth......Gollum
Count Dooku maybe? That would be more related :)
... I could get into this amalgamation!
Gollum was one of the greatest achievements in VFX history
Facts
Yeah almost every shit Witt him is vfx perfection
Yup
To this day it still looks very impressive
Wouldn’t have worked if the actor wasn’t a genius
LotR is one of the best trilogies ever. Glad you're doing a video on Gollum, as he's one of the more interesting characters in a franchise filled with interesting characters.
Idk bro, the new star wars trilogy is pretty epic
Harry Potter is pretty good too
*Best trilogy
@@J3RCULES this is satire, right?-
@@J3RCULES The last star wars trilogy is a joke come on. The best Star wars trilogy was the original then the prequel even if it was criticized and has its flaws, it’s still better than the disney one. Harry Potter will be forever first in my heart because of the characters and universe but I must say LOTR is a masterpiece of worldbuilding.
I feel so sorry for gollum, its quite heart breaking seeing someone so happy, so clever, so sharp be corrupted by this ring, killing his best friend for it, being bullied for murdering him and coughing 'gollum' and he was banished from his home, he spent hundreds of years crying in sadness in the mountain, the ring corrupting his mind, there was a glimmer of light in his mind left, which in the movie is represented as 'smeagol' or the happy personality for gollum. and eventually the thing ho loved the most, the ring, caused his death.
@@KopKing11 Yes, but at least he became a hero and a martyr when he died.
@KJ like similar to cain and abel. never knew that also
@ITSKJ it`s his cousin
@ITSKJ but deagol and smeagol(gollum) were cousins tho
It’s not real fyi
“your a lyier and a thief”
“nope”
such a calm nope is amazing
Sam's speech at the end of the Two Towers even touched Golum's heart as you can see the diference in who is who in their pupils (small pupil is Gollum, large is Smeagol) which means he is just bad but not evil
Yes sir.. i love smeagol
Now I need to rewatch the movies.
Imagine your own grandmother telling you to leave and never come back. 😔 That's depressing
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@@s_lasgalen yikes, sad for them too bad I couldn't relate. So glad I'm not part of the LGBTQabcdefg
@@s_lasgalenum... Good for you? Lol
I love Andy Serkis ^^ when I met him he was the chillest dude ever and he was really interesting to chat to
I met Barack Obama once man he was super chill but mostly wise
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Politicians and lawyers the most evil people in the world
When I met Neil Patrick Harris he was the chillest dude ever. He even wingmaned me to get women.
Currently listening to the Audiobooks, about to start The Return of the King.
Gollum's and Smeagol's conversation is one of my favorite scenes.
Which version are you listening to? I hope (for your own enjoyment) the umabriged version red by Rob Inglis? They are in my opinion so much superior to the abriged versions as they contain every single word written in the books.
@@NorokVokun Rob's ones. Though I'm listening via audible and as far as I know his are the only ones on there 🤷🏽♀️
There is Phil Dragash's version which is more immersive with dramatization and music from the movies. However i do love Rob Inglis voice and his singing i end up singing with him lol.
Read Silmarillion years ago then came across the audio book this year. Tried listening, and whoa, couldn't finish it. 9+ hours is no joke.
The fact that beings like hobbits can turn into a twisted being like gallum or elfs can turn into ugly orcs just shows thay at the end no one is truly incorruptable.
"You see madness is like gravity,all it need is a little push!"
There said to be the truth.
The first Dark Lord "Melkor/Morgoth" on how he created his army of darkness is through "corruption". He never have the power to create things since he never got the "Secret Fire" that his father/creator "Eru Illuvatar" used to woven the song of creation of his children angel-like entities the "Ainur" to make "Ea The Universe" and "Arda The World".
He kidnapped some Elves who awoken on the First Age and twisted them to become "Orcs". The Dragons were unknown but believed to be origin to some beast found on Middle Earth. Along with other fantastic creatures that roamed the land and sky to be twisted and corrupted to his own making. That aside includes the Balrogs that originally as the lesser Ainur as Maiars.
The darkness of Tolkien universe is born from twisted corruption. Except for the Ungoliant that no one knows since its belief came from the Void as the Primordial Evil.
@pyropulse Tolkien is never stated the origin. He's always vague about it.
pyropulse IIRC elves can't be force bred because experiencing such a traumatic event causes them to lose the will to live and they immediately die. I do think orcs did come from elves, but no idea how
Yo I love this quote 😏😈
Jesus Christ the Son of God is incorruptible. the fallen angels are real, thats what the orcs symbolize
Gollum is like that one low-level character that dropped an op legendary item.
Lmfao indeed
Fuckin savage Lee
When you defeat the Pokémon professor and he gives you a new starter Pokémon
Grab the popcorn and a drink and buckle yourself on in.
Love your videos, mate. Extremely excited for this one. Thank you for all your hard work.
Cheers mate. Enjoy :)
@@filmcomicsexplained really a big fan in your infection videos
Want to cry?!
At the End of 'Return of the King' Gandalf arrives with tree Hawks at Mt. Doom. The thirdone was for Gollums Rescue.
Eagle,those were eagles
I was always surprised that the eagles would bear him tbh
gollum honestly deserved redemption and it makes me sad that he died for the same thing he was a slave to
Where’d you find that out? 🤔
D:
NO!
Gollum is indeed the most tragic character, he killed his best friend due to the corruption of the ring, so much so that the second he was denied the ring, he was no longer seen as a friend, but as an obstacle, didn't even bat an eye after he killed him.
The Smeagol vs Gollum moments are some of the most disturbing moments in this film series. It’s just so intimate and filled with pathos...a seriously uncanny representation of someone who’s irreparably lost his mind.
Gollum is a masterpiece of character creation for a tragic antagonist character.
Tolkien wrote him perfectly, the director and effects team adapted him perfectly (especially given the technology of the time), and then Andy Serkis took it to an entirely new level.
I do like the touch from Tolkien with how pity and compassion ultimately is the reason why the heroes win because several times in the main story they have chances to kill Gollum which most people would after seeing his deformed figure and being attacked by him but chose instead to leave him be, which as this video points out paid off in the end with Gollum taking the ring away from Froto and then quickly dying
Gollum...the unexpected hero of middle earth and truly an awful reminder of what corruption can do to you. Absolutely loved his appearance in the Rankin Bass animated films, and adds to the horror that THIS was once a Hobbit.
Also special note, Andy Serkins played the voice of The Witch King as in dvd commentaries, he describes as a slow whisper.
"You see madness is like gravity,all it need is a little push!"
In the scene just after Frodo escapes from Shelob, Smeagol's reaction to Frodo saying, "I've got to destroy it," is interesting. It seems that Smeagol never cared to question why they needed to go to Mordor in the first place, since he was so fixated on the Ring itself. Right after Frodo's intentions were made clear to him, Smeagol immediately dropped his charade and attacked him. This makes me believe that if Smeagol knew their plans right from the beginning, he would have been entirely unwilling to cooperate with them, and would have kept trying to kill them at every opportunity.
No, i think this was just a moment in which his struggle between Smeagol personality and Gollum personality was lost. But the corrupted personality was with him all the time. I dont remember if he knew the plan of destroying the ring but he tried kill them at one opoortunity while working on making next oportunity (with leading hobbits to the Shelob, in book he lead both of them, not Frodo alone, in movie he was whispering paranoia to Frodo so to make Frodo split with Sam because he realised Sam would break his plan). He was not able to keep trying, as they were 2 vs 1 and Frodo had the Sting.
He used to creep me out as a kid the part where in the mines where he stalks frodo always scared me.
"Ring was picked up by the most unlikely creature imaginable. A hobbit."
So that Hobbit was not Bilbo it was Deagel technically.
Well Gollum was eating bats for 400 years and didn’t got Corona Virus
Dude, Gollum is Corona virus
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Duh he has the ring
One major difference between the books and the movie is that, in the books Gollum always planned to kill frodo and Sam, right from the beginning. It had nothing to do with Faramir capturing him
Yes and that too, that Faramir was not Boromir 2.0, he actually never tried to seize the ring or harm Frodo.
I remember watching the Return of the King in a Sasebo, Japan theatre and the opening scene was so powerful I stayed for the entire movie having not even saw the first 3 movies.
The way it split his mind was heartbreaking. Sméagol was an innocence lost that the character tried so hard to hold onto while the ring had molded him into Gollum. The way the character died was sad and yet poetic.
Gollum has a allegiance with Shelob because he brought her things to eat, it’s also understood that shelob didn’t see him as worthwhile food
Of all the characters from LotR, Gollum is the one I remember the most.
14:12 That's the look of Sauran Shitting himself.
And Niyat puts out a video that I didn't even know I needed. Thanks!!!
Amazing vid! I've been a casual lord of the rings fan for years, and I knew the tale of smeagol inside and out, but the way you simplified the story and get amplified its defining traits really does impress.
Niyat comes through to start the Super Bowl weekend right.
Shmeagel is the actual true ring bearer, no mortal being can or has lived as long as Shmeagel with the ring, and after he looses the ring he still retained his ability to live far beyond his natural life span in efforts to find the ring again.
You did the character of Sméagol justice.
Even reading from the book of his story. However you did miss out a crucial piece.
You forgot to mention how he slowly went through Mirkwood to Dale and Erebor where he overheard the stories of Bilbo and that he came from the west and how he slowly went backwards in the direction of the Shire, and during this time there were stories of the ghost who would snatch babies from the crib or a plate of fish from the open window, and how they called him the ghost that drank blood, and how this new food source began to give him strength again before he went south to Mordor.
Exactly. Same with music.
@@Pre-op8ut yeah, I mean let’s face it the stories of him stealing children from cradles really sounds very creepy!
I would love them to bring out a stand alone Gollum movie. Show more on his back story and how the power of the ring messed him up.
You'd think that the entrance for Mt. Doom would be the most heavily guarded area in Mordor considering Sauron's life depended on it.
bear in mind it was an almost always active and volatile Volcano, any defenses made would simply be destroyed by the tremors and magma, and orcs being naturally cowardly creatures would most likely not see it as worth risking their lives for.
@@taloscal I'd call 🤙 that smart 🤓 not cowardly 👍😎💪
In his mind, Sauron had no need to guard Orodruin, even once he knew the Ring had been found. Like Gandalf says, "That we should try to destroy the Ring itself has not yet entered into his darkest dream.” Sauron couldn't comprehend that someone would seek to destroy it. Sauron was right, in a sense- even Frodo couldn't will himself to do it. It was only cast into the fire by sheer luck (or fate).
Similar to the points raised about the defences being vulnerable to the unstable nature of Mt Doom, there is also the factor that no being could possibly withstand the corruption of the ring. Frodo, a hobbit, one of the purest creatures possible to attempt it, failed and it was only destroyed in an accident caused by an act of pity on a creature that everyone expected to die. Sauron had no real reason to guard that location, only have forces ready to intercept once he knew someone was there, which he did, as seen with the Fellbeasts turning in the air to go back towards the entrance.
Gollum is my favorite character in the entire series.
My precious
Right
Yoda reached 900 years of age using the Light side of the Force
Smeagol used the One Ring and reach 589
"When 900 years old you reach, look as good, you will not huh?"
:)
Yoda was an asshole, too. Sure, he claimed to be a well-intentioned one, but he helped create more problems, rather than stopping them. His biggest failure was Anakin Skywalker.
@@Schoolgirl325 Anakin Skywalker did what he was prophesized to do.
He brought balance to the Force.
After he was done, there were only Two Jedi's and two Sith, there WERE dozens of Jedi before.
@@MistahBryan I know, but the most tragically frustrating part of Anakin’s fall to Vader is just how easily it could have been prevented, not just by himself, but by Obi-Wan, Yoda, and pretty much every adult in the Jedi Order with power over him. Obviously, Anakin had C-PTSD symptoms from slavery, and he did become selfish in his desperation and become an addict.
However, Yoda, Obi-Wan, and the Jedi Council exacerbated those symptoms by arrogantly sticking to their inherently abusive and morally hypocritical system. They said they were all for “democracy” whenever it benefitted THEIR Republic, but Yoda essentially ran the Jedi Order of Anakin’s time like a dictatorial cult. They helped out slavers whenever they were part of the outer rims, including on Anakin’s home planet, Tattooine. Qui Gonn left Anakin’s mom in slavery. Yoda and the Council reinforced that slave mindset in Anakin by encouraging him to defer his moral compass to “a greater good” of the galaxy. They forbid Anakin from having his own personal life and relationships outside of their order. Yoda deliberately cut off his recruits from the outside world to make them feel obligated to stay with the Jedi forever. Even if they did decide to leave, he and the Council did nothing to help them out, and shamed them if they did. Obi Wan, Mace Windu, and Yoda allowed for Anakin to speak to Chancellor Palpatine alone when he was a child under their care when Palpatine vaguely threatened to take away the Jedi’s power in the government by ruining their public reputation if they refused. Obi-Wan, Yoda, and the Council gaslit Anakin for being “dangerous” right off the bat from day one, even before he did anything morally reprehensible, simply for missing his mom who Qui Gonn left in slavery on Tattooine, and refused to let him keep in touch with. This gaslighting and victim blaming of Anakin for growing to distrust and resent Obi Wan and the Council went on for 14 years until he had a mental breakdown after dealing with their emotional abuse and emotional neglect for so long that he decided to turn to the dark side in the heat of the moment in his fear and desperation of losing his wife, and then became high/corrupted on the dark side of the force. He’d already shown signs of not being able to handle just the light side of the force because Yoda, Obi-Wan, and the Council had made him such an emotionally/mentally unbalanced adult, but they ignored it.
He’s more culpable for his crimes than Smeogel/Gollum because, in spite of showing several symptoms of poorly treated/severely neglected symptoms of BPD, C-PTSD, and a substance abuse issue, Anakin did still have enough sanity of mind to generally realize that what he was doing felt morally reprehensible and selfish.
If Vader were as far gone as Gollum, he wouldn’t have been able to atone for his sins/redeem himself by sacrificing his life to save Luke at the end of ROTJ. He wouldn’t have sought out Luke after finding out he was son in ESB. Gollum only has vague flashes of remembering that he was Smeoagle that manifests in DID. Darth Vader seems to be aware that he is still Anakin Skywalker, but is willfully in-denial of that man’s existence after getting left to burn up and put into that life support suit because he doesn’t think he has or deserves a better choice in his own self-hatred and fear to do better with his slave mindset with such compromised/limited agency. Padme is dead, at least in part, because of him, even if not intentionally. The only Jedi left who he cared for and cared for him left him to burn alive. Yoda was constantly preaching a dogma that once a Jedi goes dark, they can’t go back to the light when he was growing up.
Even if he did try to take down Sidious and escape to go back, it would be highly risky and unlikely because, at least in the original canon and EU before Disney took over and started ruining previously established canon, Anakin’s strength was greatly compromised after his injuries on Mustafar and that life support suit causes him pain, healthy support is limited to nonexistent.
I think you could argue something along the lines of diminished actuality/diminished capacity for Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader as a criminal defense because of a lifetime of abuse, emotional neglect, compromised agency with limited to nonexistent healthy support options, safe escape options, drug intoxication when committing those crimes, and poorly treated/severely neglected BPD and C-PTSD symptoms, but he still had enough sanity to always know he was still Anakin Skywalker and ultimately realize he was committing crimes.
Smeoagle/Gollum genuinely did become totally batshit insane after getting that ring, and, for the most part, there was no sort of healthy support.
Samwise Gamgee is basically to Frodo what Obi-Wan, Yoda, and the Council should have been to Anakin when he was with them. Sadly, that was not what we got, and we got Vader instead.
At least, he came back to the light for Luke in the end.
@@Schoolgirl325 holy frakking site!
You're arguing like a Defense Attorney in a legal case for against a fictional character from a fictional race :)
You made your point, I agree Yoda could have done a much better job as a Jedi Master.
@@MistahBryan He wasn’t just a Jedi master. Yoda was the head of the Order for 800+ years. Even before Anakin fell to the dark side, he had another padawan Dooku go dark before him. The problem is that Yoda was too afraid to say to no to a corrupt government/Republic in his fear of losing power “for the greater good,” and everyone else in the Order became too afraid to say no to him because they had nothing else outside of the Jedi to fall back on safely after he cut them off, even if they did want to just leave. Basically, everyone in the Jedi and Republic government before Luke ultimately let themselves be ruled by fear, and in the end that destroyed them. In the end, Anakin seemed to fully accept that he knowingly allowed for all of those horrible things to happen and did all those horrible things for the Jedi Order and Sidious because he was afraid, not for Padme, or for “the greater good” through Luke’s inspiration.
In the movies, Obi-Wan and Yoda never seem to learn that lesson, though.
Do more Gollum please because I love hearing more about this iconic character that I love.
Amazing work bro, the way you dissect and deliver information is top tier. Keep it up!
Niyat! I’m a fan from New Zealand, surprised to here your down here, greetings from Hamilton, Waikato
My favourite trilogy/franchise. And the most consistent as well. It was sad what happened to Smiegel. And for some odd reason this video almost most broke me. If I had to guess why, I would say that I see a little of myself in Gollum, as the world in its current state has left me feeling alone and unwanted. To the point that even in sunny days I feel cold. Hopefully this feeling of sadness won't last. There are many days that I do feel happy, and even great at times. But mostly I feel like I'm insignificant.
It pains me to say it, I have never been a fan of the Lord of the Rings (movies or books), but this video actually makes me want to dive into the Hobbit and LotR saga and try to watch it completely for the first time.
As always, great video. Look very forward to the next one. I also gotta say I really enjoy your longer videos that go more deep into heavy lore.
I’m really hoping the game covers all the “it’s unknown how Gollum did this” moments in the story
What game
Gollum is such an interesting and unique character his journey into his mental breakdown was done extremely well with the films Andy serkis is a legend .
Please do a video on the witch king?! Such a underrated character
i love these videos more then the movies themselves crazy but love it keep up the great videos bro
My precioussssss, my precioussssss, it burns us, it burns us!!!
Bilbo had the ring for so many years and still not become a creature like Gollum. How?
Gollum put on the ring constantly. It wears on the soul and eventually tears you down. Bilbo and frodo only put it on when I'm extreme danger
They are making a new game based of this Character
What it called?
@@mr.vansjohnson7469 The name hasn't been given, but they're basing it on the earlier draft where Gollum's size isn't known.
mr. vans Johnson It’s just called ‘Gollum’. There’s a teaser trailer out.
Hey niyat, for the release of doom eternal, could you explain the doomslayer?
Sure!
@@filmcomicsexplained thank you so much niyat
@@filmcomicsexplained dont ignore the new details revealed recently of Eternal, it was confirmed not just that he IS NOT The Betrayer, but he also has a lot of hobbies, like reading books from across the multiverse, playing Heavy Metal with his Argent powered electric guitars or defy the laws of physics with his skateboard.
@@LordofSadFac I didn't know that about doomguy.
FilmComicsExplained please make a review on the 2014 sci-fi movie “ the signal”
He's my favorite character, and he saved the world on accident
Maybe a video on the Black Mesa incident from half life could be interesting.
The saddest thing is that I know people who are like him! And it's breaking my heart!
It's their birthday?
He stole it! He stole it from us! Oh, wait, no, it's just in me pocket.
Deagol was played by my best friend as a child, so my immersion was broken when the origin story showed.
I love LOTR, but I also loved your Interstellar video which is desperately in need of part 2!! I have been repeatedly asking as it's been 2 years now and I would love to see the final part :D
From the pronunciation guide of The Silmarillion:
C---always has the value of k, never of s; thus Celeborn is ‘Keleborn’, not ‘Seleborn’.
Cirith Ungol is, therefore, pronounced as "Kirith Ungol".
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bah, shallow geeks
Just watched ROTK with my gf, so that opening scene was fresh on my mind.
I wonder if Gollum would have be allowed on a boat into the West if he had survived the War? Could Frodo and Gandalf convince the Elves to let him find rest on Tol Eressa?
Gollum/ Smeagol would have withered up and died soon after the ring was destroyed, anyway. He had lived hundreds of years beyond his specie's life span, only due to the powers of the ring. He was bound to the ring forever, nomatter how you slice it.
The hiss and cry at the end there is a perfect summary of the character. It’s always fascinated me as he was one of the first CGI characters I ever saw as a kid
I've been to New Zealand many a time and have always really enjoyed going to some of the filming locations. I loved Queenstown
I can never look at gollum the same way again after i've seen robot chicken's lord of the rings
Gollum is one of the most tragic and memorable characters of all time... not least because of Peter Jackson... the technical greatness and the amazing Andy Serkis that brought Gollum to life. Part of me felt heartbroken that Gollum had to die yet another part felt that he was finally free from all his inner torment. Thanks for putting together such a great tribute to one of literature's greatest characters.
WE LOVES THIS VIDEO, PRECIOUS.
Okay RUclips what do you have for me toda-
“A 17 minute video about golem”
Okay then
i have watched the saddest movies and scariest movies, but somehow gollum is the scariest character i have ever seen
The most attractive character of this movie.
I mean-
Eat a lempas, Legolas!
"it was here that the kindness of all who had spared him was rewarded" that line gave me chills
Anyone else seen gollum wins an award?
Yeh that was hilarious!
Gollum was strong because he withstood the effects of the One Ring after wearing it. But Frodo resisted wearing the One Ring and only gave up at Mt. Doom where he was overpowered. Frodo was strong too... just on a different level.
As the Ring got closer to Mt Doom, its power intensified. So much so, that Frodo could no longer resist its will and thus became subject to it. But, the God of Middle Earth, who goes by the name Eru Illuvitar, knew this would happen and had a master plan. Gandalf had some prophetic insight to this when he declared that when Bilbo spared Gollum’s life, that simple act of mercy would precipitate something at a later time, a role that Gollum was yet to fulfill. Without Gollum fighting Frodo at the precipice inside Mt Doom, the plan to destroy the Ring would have been frustrated and Frodo would have walked away with the Ring just as Isildur had done before. By a pre-planned act of fate, Gollum fulfilled what had to be done, though Gollum was completely unaware he was part of that plan.
thank you for continuing to make videos!
There’ll never be another author like Tolkien.
Linking the realities of the current politics of the day, with this impossible fantasy is very touching to both read and watch. Unadulterated, thorough genius.
Gollum perfectly sums out when you open a bag of chips in class
People see him as a villain on most forums I read, but in my opinion he’s one of the most tragic victims.
You guys know Andy Serkis is a method actor? In preparation for this role, he spent three years living like Gollum did to really get himself into the role.
You mean that he lived under a mountain, in the dark, and ate raw fish?? LOL! Now THAT`S method acting! Did he murder his cousin too?
The 1 aspect of Gollum betraying Frodo & Sam I have. Is it's based off of what amounts to a small misunderstanding. If Frodo at any point explained to Smeagol/Gollum, that he actually saved his life in the forbidden pool. Smeagol would've likely continued his trajectory towards redemption. Abandoning the Gollum side of his split personality for good. It's just something that's always bugged me. As for all of Smeagol/Gollum's shortcomings... He was indeed quite intelligent. And I believe he would've understood Frodo's plite after being captured by Faramere?! Great video btw, keep up the great work!👍👍
0:16 The way he delivers this line is acting at it's finest
They really did an AMAZING job on Gollum, a disgusting creature that invokes more pitty and empathy than alot of other characters meant to be pitied.
Oh i love a Gollum! He old fashion movie villain. He make me feel great. I like this video!
Can you explain the movie called " The hills have eyes" please.
I second this
Do you think smeagol was tortured many times before he lost the ring due to smeagol/Gollum losing it due to Bilbo taking it by orc and urukais?
Valentin Cavazzos
What does this comment have to do with the hills have eyes?
I fourth this
Ayair Duarte good one and yes please..
he was the saddest but also the funniest in LOTR.
I hope this doesnt sound creepy but your voice is super calming and it helps me fall asleep
Thank you so much dude I was wondering why people like them so much
Excellent exploration as always, thank you 👍🏻
"He hates and loves the ring, as he hates and loves himself"
Wow, what a fantastic deep dive into Gollum!
Greatly detailed and informative video as always my dude.
just that childlike "no" is so adorable even for gollum haha
Great video! I love Andy Serkis, hes super talented. I saw a movie with him in it where him and his brother kidnap a chick for ransom and end up fighting some leatherface looking guy. Can't remember the name of it tho.
This was quite excellent. Great work
Gollum is my favourite character in lord of the rings such an interesting character I can't help but feel sorry for him he wasn't evil he was just twisted and tourtered by the rings power I wish he lived at the end of return of the King
Rest in peace smeagol you beautiful character
Gollum my fav LOTR character, that riddle scene in film and book from the hobbit is my fav scene
My precious indeed
You know a new videogame is coming out in 2021 that follows Gollum's story.
I wrote a short report pertaining to whom was the true hero of Lord of the Rings back in university where I used Gollum/Smeagol as a contender and how when he fell into the lava, it could be interpreted as the flames burning away Sauron's darkness and Gollum's sins. Quite literally since his evil acts were caused by and tied to the One Ring.
Bit of an irony that a dark lord of evil needed flame to forge his greatest creation, when flame casts light, and can also unmake darkness.
Great video as always also I have a request can you do a review on the void
Gollum scared the shit out of me as a kid