200m(WR)Smith/Norman/Carlos:1968 Olympics,Mexico City
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
- Running at altitude all three medalists had already lowered the OR for the distance in the earlier rounds ,but it was Smith with a stunning home straight that became the first man to smash the 20 second barrier in the final.A fast finishing Norman grabbed second place on the line in 20.06,which is still an Australian record for the distance.Following the "black power salute" on the podium Smith and Carlos were sent home after the IOC ,pushed by it's President, Avery Brundage(of dubious political leaning),threatened to send the entire USA team back if the two athletes were not banned from the Olympic village. 38 years after they had stood on the podium together Smith and Carlos acted as Peter Normans pallbearers, who died of a heart attack ,aged 64.
Smith and Carlos carried Norman’s casket😢🙏🏽
Norman insisted his spot on the statue honoring the medal ceemony be left empty so people could take a stand with the Americans.
Didn't Norman give them his gloves so the could do the salute with his help?
No, the gloves issue has always been in dispute. As I understand Carlos forgot his and Peter suggested the one left, one right hand. In reality the opposite hands added to the significance of the moment. RIP Peter!
Smith, Norman, and Carlos... friends for life.
The way it should be; competitors on the field, friends (brothers) in life.
@@williamhaynes4800 Carlos and Smith were pole bearers at Norman's funeral.
Great athletes, great men!
Peter Norman a Great Australian who stood in solidarity against Racial Inequality, never waived from his convictions, dispite the hardship placed upon him. A true Champion, Rest in Peace, Peter Norman.
Oceania record 20.06 Peter (Australia)
carlos threw the race down the stretch
What an amazing finish by Peter Norman. A race that will not be forgotten for many reasons.
Peter Norman - one of greatest Australian athletes of all time - yet he was treated like a villain by his own country. An exemplary human being.
He spoke out against the racist policies of Australia.
need to acknowledge how Norman was treated...which they eventually did..but imagine having to endure...through all that. SMITH...just other worldly in the event.
He’s as much a hero to me as Smith and Carlos were!
The look on John’s face as Peter goes past him, priceless. The three remained close and when Peter died in 2006 Tommy and John were pallbearers. Great respect to fly from their American homes!
@@michaelhayden725 I’m sure John and Tommie’s friendship meant much to him while he was being persecuted back home
20.06 is still the Australian record, what an athlete, what a man,
I concur
100 metres before finish, Norman was 7th!!, finished second. In Australia almost no-one ever heard about this great sprinter. Norman, a great, wasted talent.
@Carl Donelson ...unfortunately in Australia they haven't!
20.06 is STILL the National Record.
We black sprinters in America heard about him for decades !
Wasted? Not by him.
Wasted ? he were number 2 that is not waste.
Peter Norman ran the race of his life. He flew down the straight.His 20:06 is still the Australian record.
Thanks for the confirmation, I thought that was still the case. Cheers
My oldest brother tutored Tommy Smith and Lee Evans at San Jose State. Their coach was an amazing man. Thought outside of the box!
I WAS 12 GOING ON 13 WHEN THIS TOOK PLACE. I WAS LIVING JAMAICA.SO I DID NOT FULLY GET THE MESSAGE. SINCE JAMAICA IS A BLACK NATION AND WE DID NOT HAVE RACIAL PREJUDICE. FOUR YEARS LATER I MIGRATED TO NEW YORK. NOW I KNEW WHY THOSE THREE GREAT MEN STOOD UP LIKE THAT. A POWERFUL AND PEACEFUL DEMONSTRATION THAT WOULD CHANGE THEIR LIVES AND MINE. I AM ABOUT TO CELEBRATE MY 64 YEAR ON THIS PLANET. 47 YEARS IN THE USA. THANK YOU JOHN CARLOS, TOMMY SMITH AND PETER NORMAN FOR SACRIFICING YOUR OLYMPIC CAREER FOR EQUAL RIGHT AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. MAYBE ONE DAY IT MIGHT COME TO FRUITION . GOD BLESS AMERICA
Smith and Carlos asked silver medalist Australian Peter Norman to wear pin "stop racism" and he did . Smith and Carlos forgot the other pair of gloves . Norman suggest one of you wear the right one and one the left during the national anthem and they did. Smith, Carlos and Norma became friends for life . Norman died 10-15 years ago . Carlos and Smith were two of his pallbearers
Rip Peter Norman people that know who you are will always respect you and what you did 😢
I totally agree felacsvt!
A Silver Medallist as an athlete but a Gold Medallist as a human being.
@@paulwilliams8389 Norman spoke out against the racism that he saw in Australia so they were brothers in solidarity.
A moment not to be forgotten, brave men, all three.
Norman's closing! Wow! All three medal winners are heroes to me. RIP, Pete.
Mine too
I remember Peter making a comeback in the 1970's... winning the Australian Championships... but I don't remember him being invited into the Australian team for the Munich Games. Peter was my running coach at Williamstown Tech in the early 70's. I do remember Bobby Moore (in fact many celebrity sportsmen) visiting him and being on the Sports pages with them. However Peter wasn't really a coach, and I don't think he like it! I didn't understand everything that was going on as a teenager, but looking back now I can see why he was the way he was. While many people looked up to him for what he did. That don't pay the rent and he was never really rewarded for what he did! In fact he was exiled for a lifetime, for doing the right thing... no good deed goes unpunished when it comes to subverting power. After he died, John and Tommy came all the way to Australia to see Peter off, and had I known nothing else about him... that would be enough!
such a great comment Thank you!
RIP Peter Norman. A great Australian hero
Peter Norman was a part of this; in fact, it was his idea for the guys to wear a different glove on each hand. one guy had forgotten his gloves at home.
Norman ostracized in Australia, too. He was left off the 72 team, even though he had qualified. He wasn't allowed to participate in the 2000 Olympics (held in Australia) even though his 200M record still stands in that country.
In 2012, the country formally apologized to him, 6 years after his death.
+jawonn jones Well said mate. As an Australian myself I was proud of him and terribly ashamed of the way the stodgy bastards in charge treated him.
+Bill white when ever I watch this race I cry because of how Peter was treated at the Sydney Olympic Games . Bloody bastards are happy to keep his record on file as a time posted by an Australian yet totally forgot and left him out of any recognition and the bastards pretend to care after he passed . Idiots can't even do it to his face ! God bless Peter . He's my idol for humanity
The Australian response to Peter Norman's case is more complex that simply being ostracized. Norman did represent Australia again, at the 1970 Commonwealth Games, which was not far below the Olympics in status in Australia at the time, so he was not excluded. At the Australian National Championships in 1972, which functioned as the Olympic trials, an injured Norman finished fourth in the 100 metres and third in the 200 metres. So, although Norman did qualify for the Olympics, so did several other Australian sprinters, who were presumably all 'deserving' as well. Norman himself did not expect to be selected for the 1972 team. He said at the time: "I ran a shocker. I'm history. I'm out of the team. All I had to do was win even in a slow time and I think I would have been off to Munich. I felt a lot older than 30 today." As it turned out, Australia sent only five men to compete in athletics in 1972, none of them sprinters. Peter Norman never complained about his treatment and he was a willing part of the organisation of the 2000 Sydney Olympics, where he should have been formally invited - that was a big error on the part of the organizing committee, and their response that they were "not in a financial position to invite all [Australian] Olympians" is weak. After 1968 Peter Norman was not just another Olympian.
@Fred Hutchison: 2 Australians actually volunteered him a spare ticket and to stay in their home that evening after a story telling us how it was from Karen Tighe, sports presenter. He really wasn't running well enough in 1972 to go to Munich - but it seemed a snub nearly 30 years on in Sydney
The US team actually invited Peter to join them, shame on Australia
Magnificent. As a white person, I'm very proud of Peter Norman too, for wearing Tommy and John's badge - and he also suggested they shared the gloves when he discovered they'd forgotten one of the pairs - of course them having one glove each somehow made their protest much more powerful.
I live in San Jose and we have a large statute showing Tommie Smith and John Carlos' iconic moment on the Olympic medal stand. Both Tommie and John were classmates at San Jose State University.
It's a little unfortunate that he isn't in it either. Peter Norman paid a huge price for his solidarity with these two great athletes. So many people revile Peter Norman in Australia.
@@darthnarodnik Peter Norman from Australia 🇦🇺 said he didn't want his image. The 2nd place spot is empty for everyone to stand on it who hates racism
@@darthnarodnik It was at Peter Norman's assistance that his space was left blank. He wanted other to be able to stand with Tommie Smith and John Carlos, in solidarity, and support, against racism, as he did in 1968.
Tommie won more than a gold medal that day. 🏅
Look closely at Norman flying down the backstretch, he was actually gaining on Smith. Carlos looked to his side, and Peter nipped him at the tape for Silver. Moral: Don’t look back, don’t look SIDEWAYS. Keep your eyes on the prize.
Carlos went out way too fast on the turn. He was decelerating pretty quickly by the finish. That quick glance at the finish didn't help, but I doubt it cost him the silver.
great men. all three
0:18 Tommie Smith just tunred on the JETS and flew past John Carlos (I think John was surprised how fast Tommie went by him)
Peter Norman paid a terrible price back in Australia, sad that vindication and heroism came after his death - but at least he is now a hero. Of course he did not suffer 100s of years of systemic racism & discrimination as black people have and still do, so not "comparing" in any sense. Just sad that he was treated terribly for winning an extraordinary silver medal when all he did was show respect and compassion.
This is the first time I ever saw this race. I read about his training on dirt track. The coaches said he never reached full speed. They knew by measuring his stride lengths beyond 200 meters and his strides were getting longer! I see why after watching this footage. Imagine if he ever got up to full speed and didn't stop running after 170 meters on a modern track. He'd be near 19.3-19.2
No way he didn't get to full speed in the 200 metres sprint - stride lenght doesn't have anything to do with top speed, since almost every sprinter has his longest stride when hi's slowing down in the final metres of any sprint race from 100-400 m.
And Normal would not have run faster that around 20.00 seconds - remember this race was at altitude where runners are training time due to less air resistance: at sea level he would, with the same wind conditions, have clocked some 20.20-20.24 seconds
Saying "overshadowed" makes it sound like the protest was a negative
Always remember Charlie Green being asked WHY he always wore sunglasses when running.His reply was "they aint sunglasses man thats my Re entry Shield " !!!!!!!!!!!!!
In one of the most petty acts ever, Peter Norman was not invited to the 2000 Sydney Olympics. How small of the Aussie O committee.
I think Carlos' demonstration of how not to run the the last 20 meters of the 200 overshadows the protest at the podium. After blazing through the turn and being in position to command the race, he tightened up and committed every no no known to the sprint world. I realize that Carlos had bigger things on his mind and was known to hit the wine pretty damn hard even during meets but I really think he was faster than Tommy Smith and could have broke the world record eventually.
A testament to how good Tommie Smith was. Peter Norman is finishing like a train and is still 2 metres down.
actually carlos was going backwards..both smith and norman and the rest of the field were mowing him down or pulling away from him.
J'ai assisté à ça en direct. J'en suis toujours aussi ému.
Tommie Smith was not just a phenomenal 200 metre runner. He held world records at 400 metres and 440 yards at points in his career. Former World 400 metres record holder Lee Evans admitted in at least one interview that Tommie was the one athlete he could never beat over 400m.
Norman was crucified by the Australian Olympic Committee!
He STILL holds the Australian national 200mtr record of 20.06. That's over 50 year's ago.
And Peter Snell still have the New Zeeland record on 800 m 1,44,3
Tommie had incredible top end speed
yep he glided top end, so balanced.
@@gymbrown911 They have Tommie at 6'3 and Carlos at 6'4.
Peter Norman supported the fight for justice and equality for the Smith and Carlos and the AUS was not pleased with it. Wow. RIP.
Sans aucun doute les 3 plus grand champions olympiques.
Non seulement ils avaient des muscles, mais également un cœur !
Without doubt, the 3 greatest Olympic champions.
Not only did they have muscles, they also had hearts!
Jeez - Norman came home like an absolute train
Smith is, imo, the only athlete that could have dealt with Bolt.
i DONT'T THINK SO. I THINK Carlos WAS STRONGER THAN SMITH, but Smith got his moment of glory and so he went down in history. John Carlos was very similar to Usain Bolt in order to height, weight and power. He was an excellent indoor sprinter, a very strong competitor in 100 and 200 meters. I believe Carlos, trained with modern method of conditioning, could do extraordinary things like 9"65 and 19"30. Ok, Bolt is yet the king, but Carlos could pressure him as nobody did.
Stone Keeper Bob Hayes given a synthetic track, modern equipment and training, and professional career (he never raced again after Tokyo, when he was just the age of 21). Include the other “aids” modern sprinters use, and he beats Bolt. He ran 10.0 in Tokyo final from lane 1, chewed up from the steeplechase, borrowed shoes (his roommates had played prank and hid his) and no competition (winning by a huge margin). Bob Hayes was the fastest human ever. His 8.6 anchor leg in Toykyo, coming from 4 meters behind and winning by 3 meters is still the fastest any human has ever run. If he trained for 1968 he would have been just 25, running on a synthetic track, from a middle lane, in his own shoes. He almost certainly runs under 9.6. 40 years earlier than Bolt.
Tommie Smith Held 15 World's Records By Himself In Track & Field ! No One Has Come Close To Duplicating That ! Further,Tommie Smith In His Prime Against Hussein Bolt, No Contest ! Tommie Smith The Winner ! The Greatest Sprinter Of All Time ! (The Great Tommie Smith) !
@@NORTHSTAR1111111 I agree with you completely, Smith is the GOAT....
the commentator, going with some pre-formed script had to reverse Carlos' and Smith's names once they were running into the straight
Tommie are one of the greatest 200 m runners at all. hes time would have been much better if he has not run the last 7 steps with hes arm in the weather. He too were at great 400 m runner and he jump over 8 meters in longjump. He beats Lee Evans every time they met.
And to think tommie smith was nursing a hamstring injury while running. This man probably would of runs bolt 200wr if it were not for injury
it wasn't bothering him though. Hamstring troubled sprinters can't run that smoothly, no matter the strength of will.
Thank you.
So much courage and they were condemned, the Olympic association sometimes acts like crap.
at other times they give it to the one who promises the most money - disgraceful Doha world championships for instance last year. As if "by all means risk killing the athletes in those unliveable unconditions but let's make some good money out of this"
Many observe that if Tommie Smith had not raised his arms during the last ten meters of the race
He would have set a record (19 '60) that would have last for over forty years until that of Bolt.
But Smith ran to win and so support the cause of blacks,
he was not interested the world record.
It's funny. The 1979 200 world record of 19.72 by Pietro Mennea, stood for 17 years. And every year people swore it was going to be shattered, but wasn't. I remember seeing Carl Lewis run with his hands up the last 25 meters and he ran 19.75. Mike Marsh ran 19.73 in '92. I'm sure Smith would've run 19.60, but it just seemed like nobody wanted that world record in the 200. Thank God for Michael's 19.32 in '96.
Electronic timing has actually been around from the late 20's.The Olympics from'48 on have used it ,but were still doing manual hand timing as well in this Olympics.By the '76 Games times were being given to the 100th of a second ,so assumedly were completely electronic(?) WR's have only been ratified by electronic timings since '77 on. Hope that's of some use? Anyone out there know better?
Definitely could have gone faster but more like a 19.7x. Also, lets not forget this was serious altitude.
Michael Johnson: 200M; 19.32 at the 1996 Olympics
@@veridicusmaximus6010 altitude!!
down the home straight john carlos looked to his left twice and thought he was ok for 2nd (not thinking to look to his right too for some reason) - and by the time he looked right it was too late and peter norman had gone past him.
As FAST as Smith was, he Never Appeared to running Full Speed - which makes me wonder...What was he Really capable of..???..
in my experience from watching for 5 decades the best make it look easy. But they say otherwise -
He had run 19.50 on at strait lane. And he beats lee Evans every time they met.
Music?
Carlos was dead after 150m.
One epic story of Olympics!
Don't think Carlos was aware of Peter on the outside.
Tommie's feet never touched the ground that night.
Carlos runs out of his lane...look at the way it's presented from the back then after the curve it's picked up again. I was there I saw him touch the lane line with his third or fourth step. Cover up
Matters not. Bronze belongs to John Carlos. Period. The U.S. was cheated out of a gold medal in basketball in Munich 1972. Your point?
Looking at all the times... High Schoolers now from around the world are crashing into that 68 lineup! And, if you saw the women's mile world record being set this summer, around 4:07 I believe, it's only a matter of time, my lifetime hopefully, I'm 68, before a woman breaks 4 minutes in the mile. Big track and field (It's called "athletics" in the rest of the world) here!!
carlos admitted to handing smith the win
And he decided to hand the silver away also?
@@douglasbath976 He checked to his right, but didn't check his left. He never saw Norman.
抗議問題は別として、🇺🇸全米代表選考会で、19.7を出した🥉Carlosが前半飛ばしすぎた理由が、🇦🇺🥈Normanを牽制して🇺🇸が🥇をとる為だったと言われているが、本当だろうか？。それともペース配分を誤っただけなのか。Smithとの🥇🥈は楽に出来た筈で疑問が残る。女子のTyusも200mでは同様だった。
OH! Hi there, Are you here for something for school also?
they all melow withe age everybody
We la 2nd11
The great Tommie Smith.
This is how ebola spread
Pietro Manea who broke Tommie's record doped throughout his career. Track and field has collapsed as a sport. What we are left with is a variation on Vince McMahon's WWE.
he re-injected his own oxygenated blood - which was LEGAL at the time
it's not good to just make up a story at someone else's expense. It's called libel if you write it, or slander if you say it
@@MrStevecro which is of small benefit in the 200, but sometimes thinking that it helps becomes self-fulfilling. It was much more effective for Lasse Viren in the 5000 and 10,000. The US cycling team was doing it openly in 1984. It was finally banned in 1986.
@@mikeprevost8650 Can you proof that Lasse Viren did that. I dont think so. Be careful withe lies.
Who is that "Manea"?
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Interestingly enough John Carlos had become the first man to break the 20 seconds barrier when he ran 19.92 seconds at the US Olympic trials a month earlier but the record was disqualified because of the type of spikes he was wearing.
I remember that, the brush spikes. Many small spikes closely spaced, resembling a hair brush. I thought Carlos would win.