Phase-Understanding Phase and Panning
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- Here we take a look at two of the ways our ears hear that sounds are coming from either left or right; level and time (or phase) difference. From the basics of panning to learning how to hear and use out-of-phase tracks, this video demonstrates some confusing ideas in a simple and straightforward manner.
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8 years later and this video just changed my life
seriously bro i know how you feel lmao
anyone know what happens if u get two of the same track or sample and almost fade them fully each way so like one being 75% left and the other 75% right?
iv been trying to figure out how pro tracks sound beyond the speakers for years, and youv explained it in 7 minutes. My MAN!!!
Thank you for explaining and not just reading from the instructions! Great video.
I finally understand Phasing now! Thank you!!
By far the most simple and well explained video on polarity, total thumbs up !!
thank you waterkepper for your explanation. i do understand phase. and for the record the client did not receive the mix. i was meaning to say i was messing with the session and inverted a track. it was corrected b4 the mixing process.
Thank you sooooooooooo much for this tutorial!!!!!!!!!!!!! I read so many articles on the whole phase issue but couldn't just grasp the whole concept of phasing: how it works, what it does and how could it be useful in a production sense.And your video made it soooooooo clear now I got it. Thanks again sir!!!!!
Nicely done!
thank you for taking the time to make a great tutorial on such a hard to understand and seemingly overlooked topic. Keep it up. *Liked and Subscribed!*
I put two of my satellites together when you played the antiphase... The guitar was muffled, and I could hear you speaking. I bet if my speakers didn't slightly vibrate as the drivers moved, the guitar would be inaudible. :o That was cool.
Great video for a learning newbie. This really helps.
Solid video. I would like someone to go even deeper though. Like if there is actually any benefit to phase aligning the tracks after the fact. We all know there is a benefit to getting it right when you are tracking, but is there a benefit to dragging tracks over in order to fix them. Drums obviously. Overheads are always gonna be 10ms or so behind because of distance which is what gives us the perception of distance, what benefit would there be to drag them all phase coherent, even if you left the delay? These are the things I wonder.
Most understandable tutorial on yt
Thank you so much for confirming what I was thinking as I watched this. You spelled it out just right! KUDOS:)
Wow! Really great explanation
extremely helpful, great explanation, thank you
Great video! Just correcting, when both tracks are centered, the total output gain is 6dB, not 3dB! That's because they are perfectly in phase
whut. no. the same signal 2x (2x louder) is 3dB
@@jerry_spoon Yes, I also read that duplicated signal is louder by 3dB. But can you understand why? How does it work?
6.2dB actually
omg this is the basic that i want to learn! now i can understand a bit about stereo audio. :)
a very valuable lesson right here
Very good explanation, my friend
Forever grateful
came with a question left with an answer.
Thanks great info on inverted phase
Could you tell me which plug in you're using to check the phasing on your tracks in this video? Thanks!
very awsome. totally answered anything i needed to know about this process. BTW thats a good question from "funoffan".
2020 and still watching! By the way, that 180° out of phase audio has a horrible psycho-accoustic effect! 😱 I think I might use that if I have to score a horror movie once...
Thanks this guy I am rebuilding an old program was talking about this and I had no idea what he was talking about, I had never heard of that before. He wanted me to move the sound using phase shifting not panning...but If I understand this correctly. Playing 2 of the same audio file in sync and panning one of them has the same effect except the outsides are where the sound will be centered?
Dude Appreciate this video i was looking for this exactly!!
how come when you flip it, you still hear the instrument? wouldn't you not be able to hear anything at all?
Question: This might seem silly, but do you know the positive and negative terminals when you hook up a speaker? Would reversing the polarity create an antiphase?
Super helpful explanation ty!!!
Finally understood! Thanks
So we have an audio phase only when the signal is inverted 180 degree ? Or we have an error tolerance limit ? for example 40 or 70 degree between 2 channels should be considered as audio phase? (the audio is flawless without distortion).
i noticed panning duplicated tracks increases its percieved volume compared to a duplicated track both centered. even though it sounds centered. if the two tracks are slightly off time ( diff ad lib takes) it makes the sound better (bigger) awesomelier lol
It is a stereo?
Very well done. Thank you.
Is phase a tool to use to make cool sounds width effects or just to fix phasing issue or both?
Great Tutorial 👍🏽 Can someone reply to me? If the track sounds good and it’s out of phase what’s the repercussion? Is it only if you play it at certain venues and how their speaker arrangement is set up might cancel your sound?
Or maybe is it ok to have it a little out of phase at some points if it sounds good?
This video was very informative. (y) I'm about to start sound designing a movie and tutorials like this get me closer to the goal. The bass channel seems to be diminished because the inverted bass frequencies stay in the middle or something?
think of phase as the speaker itself. one track telling the speaker to push and another telling it to pull at exactly the same volume, time and frequency the speaker is just going to sit still and do nothing.
what you discovered is actually useful, cancelling out unwanted sounds, like the damn click track that mic always picks up from the guitarists headphones. you can put the audio of the click track in and invert it, cancelling it out of your mix.
you have clients and don't understand phase?
nice work man..................
You have to extend this knowledge in other similar tutorials; How about for Vocals?
Dude, you should try listening to the out of phase bass on headphones, and then on speakers. It's kind of freaky how different it is.
what's happen if I merge those track after that??? thanks.
+Rodrigo Costa (rodricosta) probably not much, other than reverse the respective effects. depends on the track as well, right? best thing to do is experiment bro
Thank you for this video!
thank you bro, can do that for mastering ?
now this is the story all about how my wave got flipped turned upside down
It's not the brain doing the trick, if the meters shows exactly the same as you hear. When the phase shifted signal is at 100R and the original one is at around 90R the signals are mostly cancell each other in the R channel, but in the L channel there are still some portion of original signal, this is why it it is heard being to the left. The actual proportions in which the two signals blend are dependent on the pan law used by Pro Tools.
How would you check phase coherence on analog equipment?
I wonder if they have put a phase button on pro tools yet? Others have had it forever.
Great Tutorial !
can you extract a vocal from a song by using this method?
this was really helpful!
hey the inverted trick. messes up everything when u listen in mono.
So if its near Anti Phase is it a bad thing?
ive definatly heard on records the effect of things sounding wider than the speakers. can some one tell me how that is done? in the video he says it is done with phase. maybe someone can send me a video?
Good explanation!
When the tracks were out of phase at like 5:00 I Physically felt sick, and I honestly have never had that happen to me before. Nauseous and dizzy.
am sorry i did watch all of it. it just that u didnt really mention anything about the mono and i found out later that u have to be careful when playing around with the polarity.
thank you man! Godbless you!
Can I change phase outside of my daw? Just in my safire virtual mixer somehow to see if there's any issues on my drums anywhere? My snares sounds thin a bit but I only have one mic on the top currently so not sure if that's why.
Overhead mic(s) can be out of phase with your snare track. Snare in the OH counts, too even though it's not the only thing on that track it will affect the snare solo track.
very useful thanks!!
very well done!
Thanks.
So you basically achieved a "chorusing" effect by hard panning left and right and reverting the phase, right?
Thx a lot!
Nice!
Thank you so much ;)
I was just jearing from left speaker when u Phased,
No Surounding 3D Effekt.
:-)
In this case you can because he panned one signal to the left and the other one to the right
when you double the track and it increases 3db ,because its 3db in both speakers is that a 6db increase?
Thank you very much!! helped me a lot :)
Wow
04:27
no prob.
PANNING INTENSIFIES
Yeap because that goniometer waves does only half of true representation that's been 360 degree not 180.degree😅❤
Whwn I mean analog equipment, I mean reel-to-reel.
was i talking to u.
Oh don't pretend you don't know it was as an example ;)
Your explanation is wrong at 6:33-6:53. Our ears aren't magically tricked. Your eyes were tricked by focusing only on panning. You created cancellation with Track 2, which, for example at 6:25, effectively transforms a pan of Track 1 from center to right into an apparent level adjustment of Track 2 in the left ear from 0 dB to neg infinity dB as u pan. Your left/right master output meters prove it. Just do the math, like you said. U were confused, especially claiming sound is somehow projected.
fix your audio level...
why would someone with such a poor knowledge of mixing be providing recording services for paid clients...
that's just weird
NIOOOOOOOO!!!! So wrong.
extremely helpful, great explanation, thank you