Sacrifice by Jeff Williams and Casey Lee Williams with Lyrics
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Cant wait until volume 16 when we have another 10 meanings for this song
For real lmao
At some point, you’ll have to admit that you are causing a lot of those meanings.
It’s definitely Raven talking to Ozpin about how Summer died and that she won’t be next.
Real
Are we not talking about how every Oz respawn costs another their choices.... he's like a possession. You can be angry with Salem, but truthfully maybe, she just wants accountability?
Just wondering, Could the part about the "Moon sadly watching the 'roses' die, in vain..." have something to do with Summer and Ruby? Since, you know, both of them have 'Rose' as their last name. Probably something to do with Summer dying in vain and now Ruby is becoming a huntress. I mean Ruby's song 'Red like Roses' has the part where it goes "Don't live your life in vain" and "I made a sacrifice and forced a bigger sacrifice on you"
I know I am hella late about that comment, but I'm pretty sure "Sacrifice", "Red like roses Part 2" and "Divide" confirm that Summer died by Salem's hand.
@@viktorstanev2752 I wonder If summer wasn't the first silver eyed to die in oz's cause?
Now we all got the answer. Summer was killed by Salem.
Yeah but who is this "moon" that will see summer and Ruby die
@@simpleman6633 The Gods had something to do with the moon? Maybe them?
This song just keeps getting new ways it can be interpreted. Initially towards it seemed like it was being directed at Pyrrah by Salem, then it seemed like it was Raven was directing it at Ozpin, AND THEN it seemed like it could be directed at Salem from Ozpin's perspective, or vice versa after the lost fable, and now it also fits *really* well as a counterpart to Hero, as a sort of rebuke to Ironwood. How much foreshadowing can you fit into *ONE SONG*?
Nice.
Joseph Malone: how much forshadowing?!
RWBY: YES
I still think it's the second one. The part when it says "You can't have my life. I'm not your sacrifice.".
And my favourite part? All those interpretations but the song contains something like CINDER'S motif :)
RWBY has a lot of incredible songs
After Volume 6 chapter 3 this song takes on a new meaning
I know right? This song clearly talks about Salem.
The Salem babbyyyyy~
Ikr that was the first thing i thought of
Thank you Volume 6 episode 3
That’s what I said
I'm more worried about the whole watch the Roses die line than who the song is about "Roses" Rose(s) plural so does that mean summer isn't the first "Rose" to die for Ozpin or that she isn't the last....
Summer probably wasn't the first since apparently the Roses have prominent silver eyes. He was bound to have encountered some before.
Probably foreshadowing Ruby’s death
I'm pretty sure this is from Raven's perspective, and she thinks it is likely Ruby will die too (but it's a perspective, she doesn't really know for sure).
I hope that, if it is foreshadowing, it's foreshadowing Adam's death.
I recon that there's another rose out there they don't know about cough* season6 * cough
That pic of Ruby...
If that's really what happened, I want to see a "flashback" to that fight where we see what Ruby actually did to freeze that Grimm and wound Cinder like she did. She looks like some kind of demon.
The Lyric Man It looks cool you gotta admit
ruby in her avatar state
Alison Vlasics hahah! nice!
Alison Vlasics avatar state? bro, that's witch hunter, no doubt about it.
which means ruby is right, weapons ARE people.
Yal Rathol
"Are we heroes keeping peace, or are we weapons pointed at the enemy so someone else can claim a victory?" from Time to Say Goodbye comes to mind when you put it like that.
"What if all the plans you made,
were not worth the price they paid?
Even with all the lives you stole,
still no closer to your goal........ "
Quinton Damiano I thought she was going to say soul
That is the perfect proof for why this is about Raven talking to Ozpin
Thought it sounded like Ruby was talking to Cinder or Oz talking too Salem??
Absolute Burning-Soul nah Raven betrayed Ozpin, those lyrics could be the reason why
It definitely seems like it's either Ozpin and Salam talking or Raven talking to Salam. Because we still don't know why Salam hates Ozpin and Ozpin is the only one that's taken lives through his regeneration and the maidens but also come no closer to his goal of peace. where salam has made sacrifices and taken lives but has become closer to her goal. It's very hard to pin point because it applies to a few characters.
I've heard a recent theory that this song is actually sung by Raven to Ozpin. She sees Ozpin as a manipulator who sacrifices others to further his goal, but no matter how many huntsmen and huntresses die, he's no closer to beating Salem. So she left; she won't be part of Ozpin's game and that's why she'll fight only to protect herself and her clan.
David Huntsinger This sing may have came out before all the Raven stuff happen, but i do think this theroy is possible.
@@tapiocababy1701 the song came at the end of volume 2 and raven was in the end credits. I think theres strong evidence that its her song
@@amity4600 Oooo
@@amity4600 Now this song has a whole new meaning
Interesting indeed.
Wings (vol. 1): Don't give up and keep moving forward (edge: 0/10)
Sacrifice (vol 2): FUCK U *DAD* YOU DON'T CONTROL ME (edge: 7/10)
Divide (vol 3): VILLAIN ROCK ANTHEM (edge: ∞)
Armed and Ready (vol 4): *Yang kicks open door* FUCK YOU ADAAAAAMMMM (edge: 6/10)
This Time (vol 5): Yeah, we're gonna go Knights of Rohan to y'all
@@nInOwarrior0312 i would've mentioned All Things Must Die for volume 5. That one has edge through the roof.
One thing I like about Salem as a villain is that she does not underestimate her opponents, or at least tries her damnedest not to. She evaluates people's strengths and weaknesses and judges them appropriately. Oh sure, she's very confident in her victory, but every move is still calculated and she knows that if she leaves the good guys enough room to regroup and form a good strategy, they very much have a chance.
This kind of reflects in the way she treated Cinder and the rest of her underlings in episode 1. Whereas everyone is ridiculing Cinder for what she failed to do, Salem actually recognized what she had actually accomplished. She's strict, and undoubtably evil, but in her own way, she's just. I still want to see her fail just like everyone else here, but... she's a pretty damn solid villain, and that gives her a really, really good chance of winning, or at the very least successfully scarring the world before going down.
of course, she has who knows how many centuries of experience to draw from, and hasn't gone quite as insane as other villains with similar life spans, in part probably because of her 'blessings', as opposed to Ozpin, who is probably only as 'sane' as he is because of fresh injections of sanity into the gestault every couple decades
"Death is never what it seems." That means Pyrrha and Penny are ok guys
Exotic Butters No. it means ozzie is ok
they're all fine, NOTHING HAPPENED
Exotic Butters if they didn't die the emotional impact wouldn't t be as strong which would cheapen the show and the volume
Epiczman926 that depends on how you bring her back. if she comes back A-ok then yeah that sucks.
khosef Tadros true if they come back changed in some way that could be interesting
Scariest song about seeds ever, 10/10 lol
This song makes me sad, and yet it makes me WANT TO KICK ASS GOD DAMN IT MUSIC WHY YOU DO THIS TO ME!?
Holy fuck this song isn’t about Ruby, Pyrrah, Salem, or Cinder. It’s about fucking Ozpin from Raven. Just like it said in the latest episode we saw Raven. Ozpin is not what he seems... Maybe we’ll get more when we hear what she says.
Ugh, I'm still disappointed with how this one turned out. I'll probably do a remaster at some point in the future.
This was fine. I see nothing wrong.
Yea, I love it, though maybe have a different image for the second one, but apart from that perfect
FlyntofRWBYNation Cant wait for next week.
FlyntofRWBYNation
Just out of curiosity, what part of the series is this from?
Ricardo Ortiz-Joseph 3, but I don't believe it's in the show
“The moon will sadly watch the *roses* die”
Wait a minute
“Your *mother* said those words to me... she was *wrong* too.”
@@josephsea4303 She is fine, Until The End...
This song has multiple meanings, raven to Ozpin, Salem to Ozpin, etc. this song isn’t just pinned on one meaning kinda like die
Well Die has a pretty obvious meaning. It's in the title.
The fact that the earliest songs and volumes of RWBY foreshadowed sooo much in the future is crazy~
No, that's good writing.
@@iceluvndiva21no, the writing early on in the show is terrible. Genuinely a high chance it’s a coincidence
@@noodleman9112 Disagree with the writing and disagree with it being a coincidence.
The show is deeply flawed but I do respect that a lot.
@@noodleman9112 yes on the bad writing thing. but it had been stated occasionally that plot points were kind of fed to songwriters
Man. After V8 and the new Cinder song.
They do sound scary similar.
YES! (Edit: I think I should elaborate...)
Thing is, I used to think Sacrifice was Raven singing to Ozpin. Other speaker/addressee pairings just didn't make sense to me. But now V8C6 has dropped and Cinder's "Cinderella" song starts with the same motif as Sacrifice, giving hard evidence that Sacrifice was from Cinders perspective all along, but how does this song make sense from Cinders perspective? This. This is frustrating. Let's wait and see...
YES! I'm not the only one who thought that
@@Dreamydr Let's hope that they don't fuck out Cinder more then they have already done
@@nuvaboy
This passage from 2:42 to the word "Goal".
To me it has something to do with Cinder.
"All the lives you stole"- Reference to the fall of Beacon and the thousands that died then due to her actions.
"Still no closer to your goal"- Well...as the volumes go, she still isn't making that much progress.
Her plans have been thwarted quite a few times by now...
Or wait...I think I have an even better idea..
What if...
The leitmotif of this song and cinder's song in V8 are so similar is because...
Sacrifice is also about not surrendering yourself to someone else's will. Not being their sacrifice on their plans so to speak.
Well...
Cinder, given what we've recently seen with Salem mirroring her abusive stepmom, might feel that way about Salem.
- Part 2 lol -
Honestly, this song is genius.
It doesn't just work for just one character in RWBY but for so many...
Raven to Ozpin.
Cinder to Salem.
RWBY and JNPR to Ozpin if you think about it.
This song is an anthem to those characters that felt that they were/are treated as nothing but pawns on the chessboard of two gods.(Salem and Ozpin).
And more recently...
Even The heroes to Ironwood with that "Pierce the sky, escape your fate."
In the end, the main message of the song is really about all those characters that feel like they are just being used by the "chessmasters" of the series.(Ozpin ; Salem ; even Ironwood more recently...)
Yes, In RWBY, there are two types of characters :
•The Chessmasters: Driven by keeping the world under their control for whatever reasons they have.
Ozpin and Ironwood because they fear Salem.
Salem because she wants to destroy everything.
•The Free ones: That do what they do not to serve a chessmaster but for their own goals.
Ruby=>Saving the world.
Cinder=>Power.
Raven=>Protect her clan.
Etc...
And then the other characters either are allied with the "Free ones" or serve a "chessmaster" or are just irrelevant to the plot anyway.
It sums up a good part of RWBY's story now, wouldn't you say ?
And even with all that, I think I barely scratched the surface of this song's meaning.
I'll come back if I find something else.
V6C3 really puts this one into perspective ... "rwby has no story" "rwby has no foreshadowing" "the lyrics dont mean anything" yeah, right - this is amazing guys
Hell, they even foreshadowed Yang losing her arm, IN THE YELLOW TRAILER, the foreshadowing in this series is just everywhere and I love it... makes you think tho, what foreshadowing are we missing?
@@VelocityNetwork1 Thats funny since Yang losing her arm to adam was never in Montys plan.
@acertainperson ?
@@mordredvonumbra154 how do you know that?
@@sukimity there was an open letter of a close associate of Montys some time after he quit/got fired in which a list of changes to the story was listed. It was about time vol 4 was airing i think. Anyway Montys script contained a scene where Blake fights with Adam afterwards Yang joins and they duke it out in a more or less even fight. Adam oneshoting Yang and her losing an arm was someone elses decision. Basicly Roosterteeth administration were enforcing a complete redesign of their whole company and removing most to everyone who was closly following Montys vision.
SPOILER ALERT IF DIDNT SEE VOL 7.
Their fight was already rendered and prepped to work on it but after changing script they said they will use it some other time. Remember vol 6 fight between Yang and Adam? That was what was waiting ready since the end of vol 3. If you wondered why it looked like Montys work again. You can find this letter easily if you google it so i leave myself out.
Spoilers for volume 8!
So I know that the hound being summer is a controversial theory but the first part of this song makes me wonder....
“Death is never what it seems”
“Born an angel, Heaven sent. Falls from Grace are never elegant”
Then they throw in: “the moon will sadly watch the roses die”
It sounds like some heavy foreshadowing that summer has fallen from grace in her “death”.
Damn, that’s some _Revenge of the Sith_ type stuff...
not to mention the " Revealed by Mirrored Eyes" part
"revealed by mirrored eyes" haha it sure was
@Elkanah Circus I don't want to spoil anything for you so what was the last thing you saw?
@Elkanah Corcos It refers to when Ruby asked the genie "what is Ozpin hiding?". So she totally outed him. It's an easy line to miss. Probably wouldn't have noticed myself if not for MurderofBirds. There are other lines that refer to recent events. In the song When it Falls there's a line "Swallowed by the darkness. Soon the moon is bathed in black. The light of hope is taken and discontent is the contagion." The moon part is obvious . The God of darkness destroyed the moon with a black beam. The light of hope is taken and discontent is the contagion...they got mad at Ozpin most likely because he didn't tell him that they were fighting a pointless battle...or what now feels like it. Another line is something we all saw coming. "The blinding eyes. That burn a yellow flame. The embers that remain will light the fuse of condemnation." It refers to how what's left of Yang because she's still recovering...totally instigated what happened to Ozpin. There might be more, but these are the ones I remember. And tbh this message has already been long enough. So sorry for that.
@Elkanah Corcos Yeah that's a little wonky phrasing if you ask me. Either there's more to the silver eyes than we've seen, Rooster Teeth wanted to keep that part very vague, or maybe I'm wrong and it's not Ruby.
@Elkanah Corcos The interesting one out of the 3 is that there's more to the silver eyes. I mean because she hasn't really figured out how to use them yet. Nobody has really explained them to her besides Qrow, and he told her what he's heard. Hmm, you've given me much to think about.
@Elkanah Corcos Clear mirrors show ypur reflection with a slight silver tint.
Uh there's an error with the lyrics here
It's supposed to be "sow the death and reap the seed
reap THE-
SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED"
tyvm
Nah though, really, that's one of my absolutely favorite moments from any song in the overall RWBY soundtrack. it's fucking epic.
Also it's trapped inside a phase, not maze
@@VitaEmerald324 Flynt gets the lyrics from Jeff btw
Wait really?
@@VitaEmerald324 Yes (2 years late but that’s fine)
Flynt, you need to do a remaster of this video using some fanart of Raven and/or Ozpin XD
RubénGallar suport!!!!
Agreed. It is open to speculation who this song is about, but it being from Raven's perspective makes the most sense.
Or Salem with Volume 6 episode 3
@@thevilemace6121 yep
@@thevilemace6121 Or both. Seems like parts seem to fit both. And it would make since on why parts of the song don't exactly seem to...match up with just a single on of them.
"Depression can't be an instrument"
Casey:watch me
This song is clearly talking about Ozpin after what we've learnt in Volume 5. The question is who is the voice singing. I think Raven would make a lot of sense.
RubénGallar yeah I think so too, I guess And would like it to be about summer's death
RubénGallar I think it's fair to say Raven. She clearly has a distaste for Ozpin and highly disapproves of Qrow's decision to stand by him. She even went so far as to call Ruby a "lost cause" to Yang's face just because she is with them and obviously trusts them. Besides this song also came out in Vol. 2. Same Volume Raven first appeared in. Coincidence? I think not! Seriously though the word choice I feel lines up better with Raven too.
RubénGallar yeah its raven talking to summer for a section in the beginning but then she's talking to ozpin
RubénGallar
I dont think its about raven because it says "born an angel heaven sent falls from grace are never elegant". And as we now know Raven was never an "angel" and only enrolled to help the tribe and learn to kill huntsmen.
Angel 60312 The song is about Raven in the sense that she's the one singing. And I think she's talking about Ozpin in those lines.
Everyone keeps arguing about whether the song is about Cinder or Pyrrha. I'm honestly leaning more toward it being about Summer or Raven.
Kristian Cooper Now after volume 5, it definitely feels like it is Raven to Ozpin.
Alneon
i completely agree
It's raven and ozpin
Kristian Cooper in u butt
@@_Darkhitect_ what? you don't make sense
Literally just clicked with me. "Truth will rise, revealed by mirrored eyes". Ruby is the one who asks Jin about what Ospin is hiding.
v6c3 anyone?
The one with mirror eyes who will reveal all the truth is probably Ruby and then it says that so many stolen lifes are not enough and that goal is not complete and thats Ozpin's goal and Salem is probably the one thats telling him that.
The one who will reveal the truth is the main character? I never woulda guessed XD
Dashie Rainbow Lifes fo real
Qrow and Raven are the mirrored eyes, look at their emblems
how did you know? you predicted volume 6
I still think this song is from Raven's point of view towards Ozpin. It was part of the Volume 2 soundtrack, which was the first time we saw Raven.
She blames Ozpin for sacrificing people in his war against Salem, such as Summer, and still not getting the job done ('The moon will sadly watch the roses die in vain, lost, no gain'; 'What if all the plans you made were not worth the price they paid, even with the lives you stole, still no closer to your goal').
She knows about the relics, which makes me think Ozpin tried to recruit her - and while she may have joined him for a while, she left after deciding Ozpin couldn't win (which she alludes to in 'Family'). She refuses to just be another pawn in Ozpin's losing game ('You can't have my life, I'm not your sacrifice'; 'Most of all, I won't fall for you').
Admittedly, we know very little about Raven as a character, but I feel like this song fits pretty well with what we *do* know, and helps to fill in some of the unknowns (just like From Shadows hinted at Blake's faunus heritage long before it was revealed).
Just my thoughts.
Other Grimm After the 4th chapter of Volume 5... yeah, this is DEFINITELY Raven's song. And with that in mind, Raven seems... genuinely hurt and betrayed by Ozpin. Maybe he did something that caused Summer's death. Maybe Raven loved her team more than initially thought.
i mean that would make sense now that we know her semblance. She has a portal to both Tai and Qrow, so I'm sure she had a portal to Summer.
And now we know she's the spring maiden.
finally a smart person
Unfortunately confirmed that this is Cinder's song, but it also fits Raven well.
New meaning for the song unlocked: the first part is Salem singing to Ozpin and the second part is RUBY saying to Ozpin that she won't be a pawn in his game.
It's getting really difficult to hate Salem...
Well I didn't watch the V6C3, because I am not FIRST, but think about Fall of Beacon.
I don't know why she is like that, but because of her Phyrra and many, many people dies.
Or I am wrong. Am I?
Have a nice day/night :-) . (pls no spoilers)
@@michabaszkiewicz5235 well, Salem always blamed ozpin for those things (not a spoiler). In her perspective she is The one doing the right thing. In the next episode they show you why she thinks that (not saying she is right tho. But it's definitely understandable. Which makes it harder to hate).
@@manuerre.5613 Understood. (Ahh? Get it? ;-P)
How? Her man died, and when he couldn't be brought back(well he could have if she went to Destruction first, but she had no way of knowing that first), she tried to kill the gods, then conquer the world, how is that not something to hate? Just because she used to be good and honestly loved Ozma doesn't change her actions.
@@nahte123456 yeah her actions are not justifiable in any way. But this song kinda makes you sympathize with her (assuming that is her song tho)
Close your eyes now time for dreams
Death is never what it seems
Did the things you thought you should
All the things they said were good
All your faith in ancient ways
Leaves you trapped inside a maze
Take the lives of those you need
Sow the death then reap the seed
Reap the seed
Born an angel, heaven sent
Falls from grace are never elegant
Stars will drop out of the sky
The moon will sadly watch the roses die
In vain
Lost, no gain
But you're not taking me
You can't have my life
I'm not your sacrifice
You can try, but I'm free
And you won't conquer me
I won't crawl
Most of all
I won't fall for you.
Show them gods and deities
Blind and keep the people on their knees
Pierce the sky, escape your fate
The more you try the more you'll just breed hate
And lies
Truth will rise
Revealed by mirrored eyes
What if all the plans you made
Were not worth the price they paid?
Even with the lives you stole
Still no closer to your
Goal
You can't have my life
I'm not your sacrifice
You can try, but I'm free
And you won't conquer me
I won't crawl
Most of all
I won't fall for you
Most comments here derm to think this song is about Pyrrha. But I interpreted it as a song about Cinder and how Salem may be using her. Granted this being about Pyrrha also makes sense
it's cinder
It's Cinder.Everything in V4 points to it.
Slow Poison not really. highly doubt it. "all the things you thought you should. all the the things they said were good" cinder didn't do this because of any sort of good she did this so she can be powerful and feared. "death is never what it seems" cinder never died... like at all.
It makes sense for cinder I think this song is saying she betrayed Salem and hid Pyrrha and made a deal with Ozpin with the line "Death is never what it seems" and "You can have my life" saying she is not Salems pawn
CosmicDoesGaming well here's the problem. cinder enjoys killing people. she even said "beautiful" when civilians were dying. and she's power hungry.
to me I think it's multiple prospectives rather than just one
What would you call the music genre of this song? Spesifically the parts that aren't the main chorus. I.e ca 0:00 - 1:30, and 2:09 - 3:04 I really loved that, and I'd like to hear more of that type of music cx
It's been 6 years but I'll still answer, I believe this is progressive rock. Progressive rock is similar to alternative rock when you look at it instrumental-based, but what makes it 'progressive rock' is the lyrics. It tells an 'epic' story. You can check out Ok Goodnight, Casey Lee Williams is a member of the band and they mainly make progressive rock/metal songs.
at 2:40 if you have the perfect volume and are wearing headphones and it's not too loud around you, you can hear your heart beating during this very errie drop in mood...and its pretty amazing. especially if you're actually watching the images on the screen
After watching V6C3, I'm pretty sure this song's from Salem to Ozpin.
Or about both Raven and Salem both. It just seems to fit better that way.
“Show then gods and deities blind and keep the people on their knees.” How salem and Oz had become gods to the people of remanent
SPOILERS:
After watching Vol.5 Ch.6 I think this song is actually about Raven, Qrow and Ozpin, from Raven's perspective. Think about it.
"Death is never what it seems"
This is referring to Oz's re-incarnation process
"Did the things they thought you should"
This is referring to how Qrow, from Raven's perspective, is blindly following Ozpin just because he seems like a good guy
"Take the lives of those you need"
This specific line is referring to how Ozpin seems to treat the huntsman/huntresses as tools for his fight against Salem
"Born an angel heaven sent, falls from grace are never elegant"
This is talking about Ravens apparent fall from grace when she went back to the tribe. It wasn't elegant b/c it fucked over the rest of her team and their relations.
"You can't have my life, I'm not your sacrifice"
This is raven's define toward the idea of being Ozpin's tool or "sacrifice". She won't "fall for [Ozpin]"
"Truth will rise, revealed by mirrored eyes"
Now allot people think this is referring to Ruby's silver eyes, but this is actually referring to the scene where Raven let's Yang in on Ozpin's shit. Yang and Raven look almost exactly alike, and yang's eyes turn the same color (red) as Raven's when she's angry.
"Even with the lives you stole, still no closer to you goal"
Now, this one is the real kicker. Who can you think of that has stolen many lives, and is still no closer to their goal? Maybe a certain immortal that hijacks the life of innocent young boys just so he can continue his eternal war against Salem?
I don't think Salem is the only big bad of this story.
You make a good point though if thinking like that I'd say ozpin is the lesser of two evils
It was said that he was cursed to do that if I recall correctly and something about the recipient having to like minded or something as well. Plus, if its Raven talking then she has no leg to stand on considering she is a coward herself who ran away for years instead of proving herself better than Ozpin by doing anything to stop Salem and company.
It would be but it wouldn’t play on V5 EP 7 close to the end
My only issue with your statement is oz. He isnt hijacking them. He is cursed, he is forced by the gods to reincarnate.
Well you have forever swayed me into thinking this is ravens song
Hrm, while I love the song, I'm a bit skeptical if the art fits here. Then again, this is one of the few songs that's unclear about who's it about. I can tell it's someone who's fallen from the "righteous path," possibly saw Summer die (in vain), and longs to see Ozpin "pay for his sins." Be chilling if it's an evil Pyrrha, as the pic showed, though I'm more leaning towards Raven, who might've seen Summer die and thus decide "enough is enough." Now she wants nothing more to do with Ozpin, and awaits the day when Ruby (her mirrored eyes) will reveal the truth about him, among other things. Something along these lines anyway. But still, love your work here, keep it up. :D
I could not for the life of me find art that fit with the song. I got so frustrated that I just settled for those two images.
Ah, I see. Yeah, that would get rather unnerving, wouldn't it? Hopefully we find out in the next Volume or two about who the song is based on, but we'll see.
I must say tho great work on the rest of the art works you have posted with the lyrics!
I wouldn't say evil Pyrrha, more like defeated. It's hard to tell but there's red right where she got shot in the chest. I think the first image looks more like Salem gloating over Pyrrha's fail.
I always thought about Salem teasing Ozpin or possibly Summer and Salem
Very Evanescence esk
i like the bassline, it reminds me of Slither by Velvet Revolver but then the main solo to this song is much different to the solo in slither
Now that's volume 6 episode 3 is out I now have a new perspective of this song
After watching the finale of V9 and seeing Raven was with Summer for her mission...yeah no, this is Raven talking to Ozpin. Now I need to see Ruby and Yang finding out the truth of what happened to Summer from Raven if she returns in V10.
So coming back from vol 6, ep 3, this is VERY clearly about salem. Just if you haven't seen the episode, when you do, you'll see what I mean. The lyrics match the episode's scenes beat for beat.
I think it better fits Raven
In Divide, Salem mocks Ozpin for sacrificing and tricking huntsmen for his war and him not getting closer to win. Here the pov character refuses to be Ozpin's sacrifice, which better fits Raven.
@@shadowwhowalk Not sure it fits Raven at all tbh
This is totally salems song
Lol totally. This is a Salem talking to the gods and ozpin for sure. Everything makes sense now
It better fits Raven.
Divide is a song from Salem's perspective, and she mocks Ozpin for sacrificing huntsmen and tricking them to join his war which he isn't closer to win.
This song has a character refusing to be Ozpin's sacrifice and being free from his manipulation. There is also a line of roses dying in vain which sounds like a reference to Summer Rose.
@@shadowwhowalk No it doesn't, this fix Salem so much more than Raven
This song will fit not only few different pairs of RWBY characters, but also Berserk.
You're so right. My brother is a big fan of berserk and somewhat knows about rwby and I kinda feel obliged to tell him this
What if it’s Ruby singing about Oz and Salem. That’d be fucked but awesome
2024 edit:tf am i talking about , thats absolutely what this song is
V6C3 SPOILERS BELOW
Does anyone else get the feeling that this might actually be about Salem?
SPOILERS for those who haven't watched V6C3: Damnnnnnn Sacrifice makes sense now after watching Volume 6 Chapter 3 about Salem's perspective on Oz! Especially when they talk about stars falling out of the sky (which happened when the moon was falling apart IN FRONT of Salem as well as the whole showing them gods and deities (which Salem and Ozpin did, originally Salem's plan for humanity) which led the people to their knees (WHICH THEY LITERALLY SHOWED)!
Lu-Bun and their story was one of the first stories they wrote
I just watched it and rushed here to listen again XD
Why would Salem ask if the Price paid was worth it then, and why the lines about "Mirrored Eyes" and "moon watch roses die", those have absolutely nothin to do with Salem or Ozpin.
Price payed: Salem paid the price for bringing back Ozpin and then paid another price to gain the power she has now (jumping into the evil pond water) in order to get what she wants
Mirrored eyes: she honestly thinks what she is doing is for the greater good and everyone else has mirrors eyes aka doesn’t understand her motives
Roses die: most people seem to think that Summer Rose and past Roses have died helping Ozpin (also possibly foreshadowing Ruby’s death) she is probably referring to herself as the moon (good -> sun and evil -> moon)
OK your just wrong on the first part. The line is "what if all the plans you made were not worth the price they paid?" so it's questioning if the "price" was worth it when the "plan" still isn't any closer. it's a question about making OTHER people pay, not the singer. It makes literally 0 sense for Salem to say that about Ozma OR jumping into the Grimm pool, those are both prices SHE paid, not prices she made others pay. At best you could stretch it to mean when she caused humanity to be wiped out but that already happened and she was also punished so that wouldn't fit.
"Truth will rise revealed by mirrored eyes" so the eyes are showing the truth, not denying it.
And not only does it make no sense for her to compare herself to the moon about Roses, the song also says "the moon will sadly watch the roses die" why would Salem be sad if she was comparing her self to a go watching them die against her?
Plot twist: Ruby is going to die, but Cinder will kill Salem in the end.
This sounds incredibly like a zombies song from call of duty
Why do I feel like this is talking about Salem???
Dam that pic of Ruby O_O it would be so cool if she could get in some kind of avatar state with her silver eyes
G4ud1 w8s4RWBY that's literally what happened at the end of volume 3
Love that image in the second section of the song, where Ruby is staring pure death upon Cinder.
SPOLIERS*****
I think that the "Death is never what is seems" Points to Ozpin, as he keeps on coming back. I really don't know whos worse, Ozpin or Salem. After all Salem just wants to not be immortal right? And Ozpin is hiding to many secrets. I think (My Opinon) that Ozpin is sacraficing people for his needs and might be worse than Salem.
After volume 6 chapter 3 I see everything with new eyes 😂
Ngl the melody of the beginning sounds like an older call of duty zombies map Easter egg song
HOLY FRICK. Salem wants Ruby ALIVE, silver eyes must be able to do something that Salem WANTS. This is most likely from Salem to Ozpin, so if she wants “Truth to rise, revealed by mirrored eyes” and silver eyes act as mirrors reflecting light on the Grimm. What if Ozpin let Ruby in to Beacon to PROTECT HER FROM SALEM. It doesn’t make sense to that she’d kill the other silvered eye warriors... but wait, what’s this? Ruby fits right in to Salem’s plan. A younger, easy to persuade child that is close to Ozpin. By using Ruby she sends a message, no one is safe and nothing you do will matter. Ozpin interacted with team STRQ and so he must have talked with Summer, he didn’t want to lose another silver eyed warrior so he went out of his why to get Ruby into Beacon. He always kept an eye on her. Salem needs a silver eyed warrior for something... but what?
Or that line could just mean Ruby would reveal Ozpins lies
What a curious line of thought, you may be onto something. Following the Wizard of Oz parallel Ruby is bound to be abducted at some point and taken to Salem so it will be interesting to watch for that.
HighPriestFuneral I didn’t even think about the original story,
Well, we finally know what this was about. Maybe.
This song describes what Salem has gone through
So who let Maka teach Ruby with hunter
After episode 3 of Volume 6 I'm starting to think this song is from both Oz and Salem's views on each other,
if it was solely about Salem to Oz some part make no sense, Oz wasn't there when the moon shattered, Salem was. Kinda like they did with Red Like Roses 2, but with out two different voices, probably to not make it a obvious.
I like to think this song is about the villians in RWBY. Though more specifically about Cinder.
Noodle Nerd thought it was more on Salem since she knows about the silver eyes and the mirrored eyes (Qrow and Raven) etc.
I believe its about Raven and Ozpin.
does ruby have genie hunter!?
lol, that's what I saw too😂
Caleb Carr Honestly SOUL EATER
Caleb Carr Actually, I think it looks more like the Witch Hunter.
Yeah, it's probably Witch Hunter. Or a Silver version, at least. Genie Hunter is more axe-shaped and greenish.
Maiden hunter, Cinder's in the foreground, looking more shook than any kishin
This song has to be sung by Salem because she says," all the lives that you stole, still no closer to your goal." It has to be about Ozpin.
It’s about candice
@@CODELIRIOUS-sy8xz who's candice?
Its actually about both Salem and Ozma
Well it could be sung by raven being pissed about summers death and also the countless people ozpin has gathered into his group over the many years I think divide is salems song and this is ravens song
It’s probably cinders song twards Ruby and Salem mainly Salem
Ruby with the Witch Hunter from Soul Eater.
so, I get that the song is referring to Ozpin, but who's point of view is this? Salem? Raven? Cinder? An evil Pyrrha?
Renee Salinas could be multiple points of view
Seeing Volume 4
Yeah,this song is what Cinder is feeling towards Salem.Every single thing points to it.
I believe its Ravens, EruptionFang made a video on this song explaining that its Raven and Ozpins song.
nick giles it's ravens
It’s about Salem. It’s Salem talking to Ozpin what’s you get further in the show it’s clearly about her.
Now this song is a huge one foreshadowing
With the new release of Volume 9 I will add to the theory pile and go out on a limb. What if this song is about Ruby's internal conflict with herself? The first half being sung mainly from Ruby's doubtful side, and the second half her being triumphant over her doubts at the end of this volume? Ik the song is old but I just found it( to many RWBY songs to listen to) and thought I'd throw a theory out there, though as someone stated this song can have multiple meanings.
After the new episode, I'm starting to think this is from Salem to Oz
No Pyrhhas or Cinders were harmed in the making of this song
but a summer was
Hear me out here. This song is actually Cinders theme.
Pretty much saying I won't work for you also a bit of salem " Show them gods and deities blind and keep the people on there knees" a reference to where Salem faked being a god with her immortality and wanted Ozma to rule with her. This is part Cinder it's basically saying I'm not going to do your bidding and that she sides w salem and that even tho Oz set up lots of plans he still ain't any closer to winnin
ALL THIS TIME WEVE BEEN SINGING THIS AND NEVER NOTICED RUBY WAS GONNA REVEAL THE TRUTH? “Revealed by Mirror Eyes” well BLOW ME DOWN
idk why but...
this song is FLIPPING CATCHY BRO
I still love this song. Definitely one of my favorite from this anime.
Anyone else think that its salem singing to the gods i recently rewatched “the lost fable” and it really made me think about this “all your faith in ancient ways has left you trapped inside a maze” salem at this point probably does view dying as an “ancient way” she’s basically blaming the gods for this because they didn’t revive ozpin when he first died and now he’s in a never ending cycle “with all the lives you stole still no closer to your goal” here shes basically saying “look at how many people you’ve let die to teach me a lesson is it working are you winning?” So ya that’s just a thought
The moon will sadly watch the roses die in vain Is a clue that it's talking about summer and ruby dying to Salem's hands blindly.
You can't have my life is ravens mindset, she sees ozpins goal as sacrificing people for answers on defeating Salem.
Pierce the sky escape your fate is her talking about herself,and ozpin. They both tried to escape their fate but will only gain hate for doing so, she's pretty much telling oz to tell the truth like she will.
Truth will be revealed by mirrored eyes is saying ruby will uncover the truth(which she does)
Even with all the lives you stole still no closer to your goal(she's talking about ozpin sacrificing people for his goal and asking what if there is no defeating Salem,what if the gods don't come back,what if there is no winning and your sacrificing people for nothing.
I firmly believe this is Salem's song to Oz. Though I think Jeff said he didn't intend this as a song for any particular character (citation needed), but there are way too many things that foreshadow the later seasons and things pertaining to those two. I also really like the thought of the normally composed Salem being so emotional and passionate in her spite at his loyalty to the gods rather than her.
i forgot how much this was a banger.
Beginning sounds like a boss fight in Persona
Am I the only one who thinks this Song might be from Cinder towards Ozpin?
In DIvide ( which is clearly Salem talking to Ozpin) its said " Sacrifice them for your needs", so here it would be Cinder saying that Ozpin's not ghetting her.
Also in mutliple Songs it states that the People we assume to be the good Guys are lying and playing theire one Game. So the whole "What if all the Plans you made..." bit could easily be directed towards that.
Tip top Animations why would Raven think Qrow is using her as or for any kind of sacrifice?
Have you not seen episode 12?
Currently Gaming fair point.
NO ITS NOT ITS FROM RAVEN TO OZPIN IT SAYS U ARE NOT TAKING ME SHE IS TRYING TO RUN IDIOT CINDER ISNT RUNNING THOGUH ONLY RAVEN IS RUNNING
Dude chill, they understand it now.
Pyrrha is dead guys... Just let her go...
Dark Gwenn Never it makes more interesting if she returns as a morally gray character a neutral party that has problems with both sides
mastermatthew500 that's what I'm trying to say. I find it more interesting.
khosef Tadros That would degrade the value of her dying.
xVThePuppetVx ! like I said that depends on how you bring her back. if she comes back A-ok then yeah that sucks.
khosef Tadros I'm pretty sure everyone wants her to come back,if they decided to bring her back non evil I don't think anyone would mind but yeah it would be weird to See her die then come back.
With the events of Volume 5 and our first real look at Raven, I really think this is *her song*. It's hear dealing with Summer's death (Close your eyes now, time for dreams/death is never what it seems) before turning into a huge "take that" against Ozpin ("all your faith in ancient ways/leaves you trapped inside a maze" and "born an angel heaven sent/falls from grace are never elegant" seem like deadringers for him now that we know Ozpin's the Wizard).
Ya, definitely her song
1:37 "SOUL RESONANCE, WITCH HUNTER!" If anyone gets that reference, I will be so happy
Soul Eater.
0_0 imagine if maka and Ruby met. That'd be awesome.
Dragn_124 Gaming maka vs. rwby who's scythe is better
salem saying all of ruby's efforts are futile followed by ruby telling her to shove it
trickster3696 that's what I thought! It's like weiss' song in volume 4 but ruby singing not weiss
this song is about Cinder
trickster3696 Yeah this is Cinders image song. Ruby has red like roses, yang has I burn, Weiss mirror mirror, etc, and cinder has this.
It's not ruby, it's raven and oz
Remember when some of us thought this song may be about/sung from Torchwick's POV? Good times... miss that character, he was a great one
After volume 6 this is starting to sound like both salems and ozpins theme
I'm starting to laugh at these comments, especially since it turned out everyone was wrong from the beginning and the song was about Salem. Who can relate?
The more i listen to these older songs, the more I'm starting to think these are actually aimed at Ozpin
Years later and that 2nd image is still god tier
I feel this could be Raven. I mean if you closely read into the lyrics and what we've (spoilers) seen if volume four and have heard from Raven. She knew Beacon would fall, she knew Ozpin would fail. And she's trying to keep her people alive. And she seems worried about Salem getting the Relic. So maybe this is Raven talking to Salem? I mean she knew Summer. She seems to know everything that's going to happen
this song is about Cinder
I originally thought that this song was between Salem and Ruby, but now I'm pretty sure its Raven talking to either Salem or Oz. Or to litterally anyone: she seems to have the same beef with every character so far, lol
Volume 6. Show the gods and deities. Blind and keep the people on their knees.
After volume 5, everyone thinks this song is Raven talking about Ozpin.
I think it's Cinder talking about Salem.
OMG this is not about pyrrha. Remember that this song played and the end of volume 2 not 3. I think it simbolizes someone (possibly Ruby) talking to Salem or Cinder. In this song (and Red like roses part 2) it is said that summer died in vain. And ruby says she wont be her sacrifice (possible what salem wanted of Summer-a sacrifice for something more- but it didnt work). So Salem is possibly looking for more power (she probably needs the power of the maidens+silver eyes) for something (she wants ruby alive for some reason).
Alexis Baliari so what it was in volume 2? it could still be foreshadowing. "death is never what it seems" and we saw pyrrha "dying" and "all the things you thought you should all the things they said were good" implying that she was used or manipulated or fighting for something rather than the greater good. or at least that's what I think. the song could be for multiple characters. it doesn't necessarily have to be for one character.
"death is never what it seems" could mean Ruby's mom summer rose, but at the same time why would Ruby's response to Salem or Cinder be "the moon will finally watch the roses die"? maybe the death of the old ruby? It's a good theory on it being about ruby, and a lot of this song has references to ruby specifically.
MikalynTonry ruby/summer makes more sense even though I'm not a fan of summer coming back.
I feel like this song contains two points of view. For example, one is saying "show them gods and dieties, blind and keep the people on their knees." While another is saying, "Truth will rise. Revealed by mirrored eyes."
songs tells things about the future
As much as i like to give rwby soo oooo much shit the music is constantly good.
I may fall and I burn please
I'm going to finish up Volume 2, then I'll get to those songs. All that's left in the V2 OST is All Our Days. I just need to find good quality art that fits with the theme. The song's message is from Jeff to Casey, so I'm trying to find cute art of Taiyang with Ruby and Yang to fit the father-daughter theme.
Can we now all agree that this is from Salem's point of view and that she is talking to ozpin?
After 6-3:
Oh, shit.
Honestly, I can see this as being about Raven and Ozpin, Cinder and Salem, or Summer and Salem. I think it could work well for any of them. Perhaps it was meant to be interpreted that way. Either way, an excellent song with some good imagery in the lyrics.
"Born an angel, heaven sent. Falls from grace are newvr elegant."
I thought this meant for Salem since she was a princess(?) And now look at her.