The Hardest Offwidth Crack in Vedauwoo - Forever War

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  • Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
  • Edelweiss Ropes U.S.A. and Liberty Mountain present Pamela "Shanti" Pack climbing "the hardest offwidth crack" in Vedauwoo, WY...The Forever War 5.13c/d R. Pamela nabbed the first ascent of The Forever War in June of 2012.
    "The Forever War is an 85-foot pitch featuring 20 feet of inverted climbing through a steep roof, followed by overhanging arm-bars capped by 30 feet of 5.12a blue-collar groveling. Despite the two bolts, the route still requires a hefty rack." -Pamela "Shanti" Pack
    Read Pamela's account of the First Ascent on her blog: pamelashantipack.com/2012/06/15/vedauwoo-wy-pretty-damn-offwidth/

Комментарии • 119

  • @simonon-music
    @simonon-music 5 лет назад +44

    Plot twist...what if the cams are normal sized and she is tiny and climbs a hand crack

  • @superheatsubcool
    @superheatsubcool 8 лет назад +19

    Most Hard cores steer away from hard Off widths, because they are such a nightmare and a damn lot of work! Hats off Pamela, Incredible skill level. Thanks to her sponsors for helping such an incredible athlete.

    • @williamking7765
      @williamking7765 5 лет назад +1

      Yep the sponsors mostly only care about sport climbers and boulderers. Alex Honnold and Hazel Findlay are among the few famous professional climbers who are brilliant all rounders.

    • @Soli_Deo_Gloria_.
      @Soli_Deo_Gloria_. 4 года назад +3

      Ummm no.

  • @alextemus
    @alextemus 8 лет назад +3

    Incredible! Man, I'm impressed, That is a sweet crack and Pamela just rocks it!

  • @rockclimbdotpro
    @rockclimbdotpro 11 лет назад +1

    Yes, we read an article and that was exactly it, she had a couple of head first falls that could have been way worse where she hit the rock below, hence bolts.

  • @rustyreynolds4961
    @rustyreynolds4961 11 лет назад +1

    I looked this up after watching wide boyz, I am gonna go check this out as soon as I can. This video is shear inspiration!! This climber knows how to do it.

  • @torreyintahoe
    @torreyintahoe Год назад

    I used to work for outward bound doing rock camps in vedawoo. I love that place.

  • @halenball-vant1772
    @halenball-vant1772 3 года назад +1

    Incredible route! Awesome, aesthetic line

  • @iPROxSN1P3x
    @iPROxSN1P3x 9 лет назад +16

    Those cams are hilarious

  • @bandgeek1321
    @bandgeek1321 12 лет назад +3

    Awesome Climb! Its almost comedic how big those CAM's are.

  • @Libertymountainoutdoors
    @Libertymountainoutdoors  11 лет назад +1

    Pamela says, "I placed a 9" Valley Giant at the lip of the route. It's the Edelweiss Curve Arc 9.8 -- it's my favorite Edelweiss rope! It's light, handles well and is tremendously abrasion resistant. You will love it!"

  • @samsonite813ify
    @samsonite813ify 3 года назад

    Vedauwoo is life. Catch me out there every weekend

  • @YnseSchaap
    @YnseSchaap 9 лет назад +1

    One word : Ludicrous ! what an epic way to tackle a problem

  • @ralfrussel1950
    @ralfrussel1950 2 года назад +1

    "Potential to fall head first onto a flake even on toprope."
    Still no helmet. Can somebody explain?

  • @connergiven89
    @connergiven89 11 лет назад +1

    That invert sounds sick Pam, can't wait to get shown wayyyy up in Moab

  • @bighousej316
    @bighousej316 11 лет назад

    JESUS THOSE CAMS ARE HUGE!! What a killer offwidth. And some SICK climbing!

  • @TheNamesChrome
    @TheNamesChrome 11 лет назад +2

    This has the makings of a good climbing video. It had a good beginning (intro to the route and its story), a good middle (killer offwidthing), but no end. Did she send it? Where did the name come from? We could use some resolution.

  • @devkkev9066
    @devkkev9066 3 года назад

    wow.. what an amazing climb.
    have a great day!

  • @Jmotoslowboi
    @Jmotoslowboi 12 лет назад +2

    Fantastic climb. Great job

  • @adventure4lifeRDH
    @adventure4lifeRDH 11 лет назад +4

    you are an inspiration to all off-width climbers. I agree with steven, wear a helmet so you can keep climbing.

  • @DanieleNozari
    @DanieleNozari 11 лет назад

    Wow l'aggancio di gamba mi mancava, favoloso!
    Wow I missed the attachment of the leg, fabulous!

  • @Paulmtb
    @Paulmtb 11 лет назад +5

    Why put bolts in ? Couldnt you use a few cams

    • @johnnycigar3240
      @johnnycigar3240 4 года назад

      the crack flares outwards cams wouldn't hold

  • @kuhl374
    @kuhl374 11 лет назад

    I dont know why people hate off widths so much. They are so goofy and creative to climb. this lady is my hero!

  • @grimlund
    @grimlund 5 лет назад

    It must be the ultimate horror to lead a rout upside down. Holy crap.

  • @TheNamesChrome
    @TheNamesChrome 11 лет назад

    Yeah, it slows you down... when you slide out of that crack and fall. Not everything is protected by bolt hangers on this route, only that one inverted section.

  • @DrSher
    @DrSher 8 лет назад +4

    Holy cow!! Those cams are huge!

  • @indigenousphallicsym
    @indigenousphallicsym 8 лет назад +1

    wow surprised to hear a milonga used for music in a climbing video

  • @bkbland1626
    @bkbland1626 6 лет назад

    There's a bunch of hard off widths in Vedauwoo. That's kind of the whole place.

  • @charliedebach4022
    @charliedebach4022 7 лет назад

    That huge cam that she was using in between crack after she was done narrating, would that even protect you from falling? Does it really make it that stable for you to take 160 lbs dropping 10ft or more? Idk that seems insane, theirs no way that cam could hold her fall..

    • @rushthezeppelin
      @rushthezeppelin 6 лет назад

      VGs can absolutely take big whippers. They are way over-engineered.

  • @isakkane97
    @isakkane97 11 лет назад

    2 questions
    1. WHAT SIZE WAS THE BIGGEST CAM YOU HAD?!?
    2. is that the edelweiss curve rope?? and if so how is it? i just bought it and have not actually used it on any routes

  • @karsim83
    @karsim83 11 лет назад

    that is a crazy way to climb!

  • @terrail959
    @terrail959 9 лет назад +3

    What is the second-half song? The internet doesn't seem to know!

  • @digital-alchemist
    @digital-alchemist 8 лет назад +1

    All you need is about $700 or $800 worth of cams, eh? ;) But seriously, that is some hardcore stuff. Nice work.

  • @AlaskaB83
    @AlaskaB83 11 лет назад

    would be hard to impossible to protect that. Maybe with big bros but that might make doing the climb impossible. Vedauwoo has a pretty strong traditional ethic, so i am sure they wouldnt have been placed if they werent necessary

  • @rustyreynolds4961
    @rustyreynolds4961 11 лет назад +1

    Steve, though your concern is appreciated, she states on her blog, "more often than not I can’t fit in the offwidth with a helmet!" As for the misogynistic (christian paternal undertone) Honey, with love...? Unless you are dating her that is not appropriate. If you care to challenge her ability come on over to laramie and I will give you a ride to the climb so I can laugh as you fall out. This professional climber would put you to shame. Same offer goes to anyone else commenting like this.

  • @AnonUser2023
    @AnonUser2023 9 лет назад +14

    To all the morons complaining because she isn't wearing a helmet. 1) It's her choice. 2) It's not exactly a run out route by the looks of it. Good bolts and bomber cam placements that she can inch up with her as she goes. 3) Wearing a helmet on climbs like this often make it more likely you will fall off as it gets in the way and makes things harder.

    • @Metamere
      @Metamere 9 лет назад +5

      ***** Yeah. She actually fell on the climb earlier and injured her kidney, and that's why she added the two bolts. Also, she mentioned in the video that she had to use her head as part of the move to get inverted, which might be tough to do with a helmet on. A couple of years ago I led an off-width climb aptly named "The Hangman" at Devil's Lake, and I couldn't fit my head through a narrow portion because my helmet got stuck. I had to take off the helmet to complete the climb. Either way, a helmet wouldn't have helped much if I had fallen while passing my head through a head-shaped slot in the rock. Still, I was glad I had it on the difficult to protect start of the climb.

    • @dianakate5808
      @dianakate5808 5 лет назад +2

      I am a climber and a nurse and it is no fun taking care of head injuries. You are the moron. Wear a helmet when leading.

  • @Mattmillerhahaha
    @Mattmillerhahaha 12 лет назад

    those were some huge cams. good climb!

  • @nunooliveira49
    @nunooliveira49 8 лет назад

    awesome line!

  • @bergsteirer
    @bergsteirer 8 лет назад

    This lady in a pilates instructor as well, I'm not sure if it's a good idea to book a lesson with her....

  • @karsim83
    @karsim83 11 лет назад

    thanks for the information!

  • @evanphillipsak
    @evanphillipsak 11 лет назад

    What a total badass.

  • @olliojenarter
    @olliojenarter 11 лет назад

    This needs to be subtitled for the people who just stumble across it. LOL

  • @nyczumazooma
    @nyczumazooma 12 лет назад +1

    I want to know what brand of clothes she is wearing, so I can invest in the company. She must go through ALOT of cloths, pushing that stock through the ROOF!

  • @cjunk351
    @cjunk351 11 лет назад +1

    GOD!!! that must have been tough on the camera person

  • @climbv15
    @climbv15 11 лет назад

    It looks like you could climb it safely on just gear. How about hacking the bolts? :)

  • @GhostofReason
    @GhostofReason 5 лет назад

    Okay so Trango is bringing back the massive Big Bro #5 in limited runs once 100 people have preordered and we are at 32 so far. trango.com/p-356-big-bro-5.aspx

    • @Soli_Deo_Gloria_.
      @Soli_Deo_Gloria_. 4 года назад

      $300.00 for one 😂
      For that price you could buy enough board feet to sow up a 60m fatty.

    • @Soli_Deo_Gloria_.
      @Soli_Deo_Gloria_. 4 года назад

      Before tax and shipping 😂😂😂

  • @bobbypatton4903
    @bobbypatton4903 8 лет назад

    those cams are nearly artist in a way!

    • @rushthezeppelin
      @rushthezeppelin 6 лет назад

      Well considering there are only two people (was only one half a year ago) making cams that big in their garages, they really are pieces of art. Look up the newer ones to hit the market, Merlin #8s.

  • @alexmaness4138
    @alexmaness4138 Год назад

    Love it

  • @johns3106
    @johns3106 7 лет назад +3

    Something wrong with bolts next to a crack, no matter how horrendous a flared offwidth it is!

    • @TzeiTzei11
      @TzeiTzei11 6 лет назад

      Same first thought. I'm in no position to say it's wrong rather than why?

  • @alcupone6462
    @alcupone6462 9 лет назад

    She is so fearles fighter awesome

  • @peakaweek
    @peakaweek 12 лет назад

    That upside down pivot doesn't look very straightforward to me!

  • @JulesBartow
    @JulesBartow 11 лет назад

    The cameraman/woman probably rappelled down and is sitting in a comfortable harness. Just a guess.

  • @arthurski95
    @arthurski95 9 лет назад

    ridiculously big cams !

  • @dariojoelvazano9295
    @dariojoelvazano9295 5 лет назад

    i think that she has a infinite cam sistem.o o some thing like that!

  • @johndtuttle
    @johndtuttle 8 лет назад +2

    Props, but offwidths are one of the most body size dependent of any type of climbing. Therefore, pretty hard to rate.

  • @robinjones2345
    @robinjones2345 12 лет назад

    Nice climb!

  • @mertman1
    @mertman1 6 лет назад

    Looks like a job for the Wide Boyz

  • @alma_libreix1261
    @alma_libreix1261 8 лет назад +1

    helmet ??

    • @rushthezeppelin
      @rushthezeppelin 6 лет назад

      Headjam to get into the invert makes helmet a non-starter.

  • @brucegeisert
    @brucegeisert 11 лет назад

    WOW. You hit that too the top?
    Tried with some I-bars,. Biggest Cam I've ever seen....
    VW is odd, for Off-with.

  • @TheStzzo
    @TheStzzo 11 лет назад

    Was that bolted on lead?

  • @TheMamadeira
    @TheMamadeira 11 лет назад

    Wow! So cool! :O

  • @steveryan355
    @steveryan355 11 лет назад

    those CAMS DOE!

  • @rikypanellaa
    @rikypanellaa 12 лет назад

    all that you need is only some good friends!!!!!

  • @yippeeWYyay
    @yippeeWYyay 11 лет назад +2

    Nobody needs counseling but you, pal. A badass woman rocks a dirty offwidth, and your response is to condescend? You're not showing "Love and Care" if you're implying that a pro climber isn't smart enough to make her own decisions. And if anybody called me "honey" after rocking an OW like this, I'd kick his butt off the crag!

  • @karsim83
    @karsim83 11 лет назад

    that's a lot of gear
    wont it slow you down

  • @ornerybuddha1
    @ornerybuddha1 10 лет назад +2

    Super badass climbing! No helmet, seriously!?

    • @rushthezeppelin
      @rushthezeppelin 6 лет назад

      Would have been impossible to do the headjam to get into the invert with one on. There are quite a few offwidths that make helmets a non-starter. Pretty much any squeeze chimney is going to be like that unless you are a bit tubby or have a freakishly small head.

  • @northaunt
    @northaunt 11 лет назад

    dat #6 cams !

  • @npuldon
    @npuldon 6 лет назад

    that big cam is placed pretty horribly

  • @FabioSpelta
    @FabioSpelta 11 лет назад +16

    I can't stop thinking "why the hell isn't she wearing a helmet being upside down like that"?

    • @bjaminbjamin
      @bjaminbjamin 10 лет назад +3

      every had your head stuck because of the lip on the helmet... I have! I had to squish my helmet to get myself free

    • @FabioSpelta
      @FabioSpelta 10 лет назад +7

      Yeah, everybody knows how dangerous wearing an helmet is, it should be made illegal.

    • @okkbiker
      @okkbiker 10 лет назад

      Eben Daggett I think he meant if you fall while being upside down, you will hit your head on the rock first. Not rock fall from above.

    • @DeathBringer769
      @DeathBringer769 9 лет назад +1

      Fabio Spelta Hell, it's the rock climbing world. Be thankful (or not) that she's not free soloing with no protection!

    • @ryanreese3839
      @ryanreese3839 8 лет назад +4

      +Eben Daggett Unless you are free soloing, you are making somebody else go and get help if you get hurt because you weren't wearing a helmet. Climbing is (mostly) a team sport, and not wearing the right equipment puts the team at risk.

  • @sket179
    @sket179 4 года назад +3

    The song is unbearable, otherwise interesting climb

  • @davidt2965
    @davidt2965 11 лет назад

    cool but doesnt look too fun to me honestly just looks like a pain in the ass to climb like that

  • @NoraOMalley
    @NoraOMalley 11 лет назад +1

    does anyone else think placing that giant cam would be the hottest thing ever?

  • @stguitarman99
    @stguitarman99 12 лет назад

    dat cam!!! :D

  • @bjaminbjamin
    @bjaminbjamin 9 лет назад

    fkn a. luv it

  • @flyingface
    @flyingface 7 лет назад

    i broke my skull in Vedauwoo

  • @ryanreese3839
    @ryanreese3839 8 лет назад +1

    A couple hundred dollars in cams but no helmet? Really?

    • @jcarlson08
      @jcarlson08 8 лет назад +1

      Her head would have gotten stuck...

    • @rushthezeppelin
      @rushthezeppelin 6 лет назад +1

      You can't do the headjam to get into the invert with one on. Lots of offwidths make wearing a helmet impossible.

  • @willwilson2796
    @willwilson2796 11 лет назад

    jeez, such small cams. haha

  • @СергейВышкварка-э8т

    по шкуродёру почти не переводится

  • @jeffv103
    @jeffv103 4 года назад +1

    Lose the music

  • @johnmurrin9734
    @johnmurrin9734 Год назад

    big deal

  • @benhefel3095
    @benhefel3095 Год назад

    def not rated R, you can put a crashpad on a cam where you are scared of hitting your head. xD

  • @chadnhender
    @chadnhender 11 лет назад

    Dafuq did i just watch!!!

  • @Pavuk112
    @Pavuk112 11 лет назад

    Arse climbing :)

  • @최진현-c3y
    @최진현-c3y 5 лет назад

    똥꿈이 간질간질 하겠다. 똥꿈에 해삼박는 기분이겠네.

  • @stefanheintzelmann5744
    @stefanheintzelmann5744 4 года назад +1

    The music sucks complete! 🤢🤮

  • @Soli_Deo_Gloria_.
    @Soli_Deo_Gloria_. 4 года назад

    Worries about hitting her head.
    But doesn't wear a helmet.
    SMASH MY HEAD

  • @cuntinakia8122
    @cuntinakia8122 10 лет назад +11

    ANd again no helmet because of an ego that is too narcistic