I kept angels many years ago back in the 70s. Very basic setup, 20 Gal., under gravel filter, florescent light and they QUICKLY outgrew that tank. One of the hardiest fish I've kept as long as you give them plenty of space.
I think you’ll just know when they get too big for that aquarium, they look fine for now. One question that occurs though is does a smaller aquarium restrict the growth of fish that grow to a large size eventually. I love your low tech tanks as that’s my thing. I think you’re right about developing observational skills over time.
I love this! I'd be on the very cusp of changing over the scalaras by now, for the reasons you mention, but I also wouldn't stress too much about it, as long as you have the big tank all ready to go. Lucky angels! I'm a bit bummed that you have to tear down the growup tank for them for new content, because I think a trio of dwarf gouramis like someone else mentioned, natural colours or the blue variant, might look sweet too in this setup. Or some Betta mahachai, if you can get your hands on them. You probably can; you're George Effing Farmer! 😅 Either way, I look forward to the next one, and to see those scalara spred their fins in the big puddle!
Love your videos, I’ve learned loads and now have a successful 60x30x30 Dutch style with no visible algae.. using your recommended ei dosing from your how to use fertilizer vid.. shame I can’t post a pic here as I’m super proud of it 😂😂
The background is so unusual and so magical. I'm guessing it was harder to make it work. Just like that beautiful weird angels. They are a perfect match
Those angels look great! No idea if they are a pair. My angelfish are spawning (but eggs end up calcified or eaten), yet I cannot really tell until female starts laying eggs and they are about twice as big. Maybe once they get older (several years of age), males would be easier to recognize. I never kept Angels in 20 gallons, but they should be fine for some time, hopefully. There is still some risk, but 40cm watercolumn isn't that far from a recommended minimum 50cm depth for Angels. I mean, I never kept angels in that volume even for a short time, but swordtails are different story. I keep Angelfish with swordtails in my large tank. Nowadays there is always some young swordtail, which was born in the tank, so the population is stable. I had two swordtail females give birth in 45l aquarium (12 gallons). Once the fry grew to some 1.5 cm (0.6"), I'd move them, except the few I missed. Angels would ignore them, anything smaller would be food. Anything bigger and the swordtails would grow stunted. Of course in general I wouldn't put anything smaller than 3 cm with adult Angelfish.
Nice to hear your angels are spawning. They’ll get the hang of it. I actually pull eggs now as parents are good, but still eat the young (have 3 pairs together and all breed)
Time to move the angels George. They are a tad large for this tank and the embers being such a small fish aren't confident to stay out in the open because of them. Always enjoy your videos. Thanks.
Interesting to think about fish length to tank length, I have always gone with multiply by 10 as a minimum and ideally by 20. So for me I have kept two inch tetras in a three foot tank multiple of 18, for a 3 inch barb a 48 inch tank, x 16, these fairly generous multiples allow for shoaling and boisterous behaviour. But I have used two foot tanks, for raising fish - currently platy fish, but they rarely get much bigger than 1 and half inches. But a multiple of only 6 seems very mean to me, hard to make such an arrangement look natural and avoid fish distress and perhaps water quality issues, something sad about say an almost full grown often lonely Oscar in a three foot tank. Angel fish I have always found ultimately problematic (within say 18 months) if the tank isn't at least 5 feet. So you should be fine eventually.
I would love to see the Scaperline 60 aquascaped as a tank for Paradisefish (Macropodus opercularis), with Cardamine lyrate, Nuphar japonica, and some other Japanese plants!
Cardamine lyrata is one of my favourites, I've been wondering why we don't see it more on the RUclips channels. Maybe its growing pattern is too loose and "chaotic" for most aquascapers?
@@Finkeldinken Cardamine lyrata, also known as Japanese cress or Chinese ivy, is a plant that is sometimes used in planted aquariums, but it is less common compared to other popular aquarium plants. Here are some reasons why it is not as widely used: 1. Sprawling Growth: Cardamine lyrata tends to grow in a sprawling or trailing manner. This can make it challenging to create a neat. 2. Frequent Trimming Needed: Its rapid and sprawling growth habit requires frequent trimming to maintain shape and prevent it from overshadowing other plants.
This is because they put decals on the back, creating a color effect, but actually the lights are normal. A day ago I just made a deep forest tank and applied decal to create an extremely beautiful effect like the sun is going down at the foot of the forest.
Personally, I think they should have been put in the big tank right away… with these larger fish I feel like even 400-600 litres are the absolute minimum. Generally a promoter of small/nano fish in large tanks with a few exceptions…. Beautiful tank though 👍🏼
On the testing I used an ntlabs liquid test kit which was useless 🤣. Dosing ei daily throws up some worrying results apparently all my fish should be long dead 😵
Angelfish love to have some fishes like thier Size like you have in crypt tank Idk the name of tetras but they will feel safe there than ember tetra tank
Size wasnt my biggest issue with Angelfish, it was breeding aggression! Best move was figuring out who got along with who. The males do fine together. The females...did not. Go figure lol. Just reintroduced one docile female with the two males and theyre doing ok in a 75 gallon.
I would like to see something more whimsical. Or perhaps fantastical is a better word. Some more variation between styles would be great to appeal to a wider range of audience.
Difficult to sex the Angels at this stage, but they seems to get along well, so thumbs crossed that you have a pair! Once thay start to eat the Ember tetras would be a good time to move them over to a bigger tank! 😜
LED backgrounds are the best innovation in aquaria since aquascaping itself 😍
Beautiful! I haven’t had angels since the 80s! There very beautiful fish and quite calming, love the setup George!
I kept angels many years ago back in the 70s. Very basic setup, 20 Gal., under gravel filter, florescent light and they QUICKLY outgrew that tank. One of the hardiest fish I've kept as long as you give them plenty of space.
The background is beautiful-- can you leave a link for it?
I just bought your book last week and just wanted to say it's amazing work i really liked it. Cheers from Colombia.
Awesome, amazing plant references isn’t there?
Your background is amazing. Please give us details.
I think you’ll just know when they get too big for that aquarium, they look fine for now. One question that occurs though is does a smaller aquarium restrict the growth of fish that grow to a large size eventually. I love your low tech tanks as that’s my thing. I think you’re right about developing observational skills over time.
Bro u have a good artistic brain ...that tank is stunning
Great blue Pinoy Angels!! My vote is about another few weeks 3 to 8 weeks, with your high quality foods possibly the lower end 😊.
I love this! I'd be on the very cusp of changing over the scalaras by now, for the reasons you mention, but I also wouldn't stress too much about it, as long as you have the big tank all ready to go.
Lucky angels!
I'm a bit bummed that you have to tear down the growup tank for them for new content, because I think a trio of dwarf gouramis like someone else mentioned, natural colours or the blue variant, might look sweet too in this setup.
Or some Betta mahachai, if you can get your hands on them. You probably can; you're George Effing Farmer! 😅
Either way, I look forward to the next one, and to see those scalara spred their fins in the big puddle!
Love your videos, I’ve learned loads and now have a successful 60x30x30 Dutch style with no visible algae.. using your recommended ei dosing from your how to use fertilizer vid.. shame I can’t post a pic here as I’m super proud of it 😂😂
The background is so unusual and so magical. I'm guessing it was harder to make it work. Just like that beautiful weird angels. They are a perfect match
Those angels look great! No idea if they are a pair. My angelfish are spawning (but eggs end up calcified or eaten), yet I cannot really tell until female starts laying eggs and they are about twice as big. Maybe once they get older (several years of age), males would be easier to recognize. I never kept Angels in 20 gallons, but they should be fine for some time, hopefully. There is still some risk, but 40cm watercolumn isn't that far from a recommended minimum 50cm depth for Angels.
I mean, I never kept angels in that volume even for a short time, but swordtails are different story. I keep Angelfish with swordtails in my large tank. Nowadays there is always some young swordtail, which was born in the tank, so the population is stable. I had two swordtail females give birth in 45l aquarium (12 gallons). Once the fry grew to some 1.5 cm (0.6"), I'd move them, except the few I missed. Angels would ignore them, anything smaller would be food. Anything bigger and the swordtails would grow stunted.
Of course in general I wouldn't put anything smaller than 3 cm with adult Angelfish.
Nice to hear your angels are spawning. They’ll get the hang of it. I actually pull eggs now as parents are good, but still eat the young (have 3 pairs together and all breed)
Time to move the angels George. They are a tad large for this tank and the embers being such a small fish aren't confident to stay out in the open because of them.
Always enjoy your videos.
Thanks.
Awesome tank George, Those Angel fish truly are beautiful.
Love your videos. Thank you for your insight and inspiration.
I do enjoy your chilled chats.
Très joli
This video was from 3 days ago, so I’d say it’s now about time to move the angels out! 🤓 beautiful tank though 👍
Hi..
You have such beautiful tanks..
Very inspiring...🙏
Interesting to think about fish length to tank length, I have always gone with multiply by 10 as a minimum and ideally by 20. So for me I have kept two inch tetras in a three foot tank multiple of 18, for a 3 inch barb a 48 inch tank, x 16, these fairly generous multiples allow for shoaling and boisterous behaviour. But I have used two foot tanks, for raising fish - currently platy fish, but they rarely get much bigger than 1 and half inches. But a multiple of only 6 seems very mean to me, hard to make such an arrangement look natural and avoid fish distress and perhaps water quality issues, something sad about say an almost full grown often lonely Oscar in a three foot tank. Angel fish I have always found ultimately problematic (within say 18 months) if the tank isn't at least 5 feet. So you should be fine eventually.
Beautiful. Greetings from sunny Croatia.
A scape with some sort of SA dwarf cichlids would be great. Rams or apistos maybe.
I would love to see the Scaperline 60 aquascaped as a tank for Paradisefish (Macropodus opercularis), with Cardamine lyrate, Nuphar japonica, and some other Japanese plants!
Cardamine lyrata is one of my favourites, I've been wondering why we don't see it more on the RUclips channels. Maybe its growing pattern is too loose and "chaotic" for most aquascapers?
@@Finkeldinken Cardamine lyrata, also known as Japanese cress or Chinese ivy, is a plant that is sometimes used in planted aquariums, but it is less common compared to other popular aquarium plants. Here are some reasons why it is not as widely used:
1. Sprawling Growth: Cardamine lyrata tends to grow in a sprawling or trailing manner. This can make it challenging to create a neat.
2. Frequent Trimming Needed: Its rapid and sprawling growth habit requires frequent trimming to maintain shape and prevent it from overshadowing other plants.
You alright George hope all is well, what would you say are the top 5 plants for hard water ?
Lovely tank that. What products do you use for the backlighting?
This is because they put decals on the back, creating a color effect, but actually the lights are normal. A day ago I just made a deep forest tank and applied decal to create an extremely beautiful effect like the sun is going down at the foot of the forest.
Hey, could you leave a list of the plants used in the tank in the description?
quick question regarding your water? do you use any RO to soften your water or are all your fish doing well in the hard water?
i wonder how you keep such big angel fish with small ember tetras..
dont you have feeding issues?
Personally, I think they should have been put in the big tank right away… with these larger fish I feel like even 400-600 litres are the absolute minimum. Generally a promoter of small/nano fish in large tanks with a few exceptions….
Beautiful tank though 👍🏼
Bravo from Romania Dracula land ❤🎉
On the testing I used an ntlabs liquid test kit which was useless 🤣. Dosing ei daily throws up some worrying results apparently all my fish should be long dead 😵
Angelfish love to have some fishes like thier Size like you have in crypt tank Idk the name of tetras but they will feel safe there than ember tetra tank
I have that shirt!❤
Where can I find that yellow-green bakcground?
are helanthium quadrifolus same plants as echinodorus xinguensis?
What type of angels are these?
Size wasnt my biggest issue with Angelfish, it was breeding aggression! Best move was figuring out who got along with who. The males do fine together. The females...did not. Go figure lol. Just reintroduced one docile female with the two males and theyre doing ok in a 75 gallon.
I would like to see something more whimsical. Or perhaps fantastical is a better word.
Some more variation between styles would be great to appeal to a wider range of audience.
Hi George
Difficult to sex the Angels at this stage, but they seems to get along well, so thumbs crossed that you have a pair! Once thay start to eat the Ember tetras would be a good time to move them over to a bigger tank! 😜
With so few fish and a decent amount of plants, I'm surprised a weekly water change is required. What is your reasoning?
i hand an Angelfish and he.ate my pea puffer
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