ANYONE can be a retoucher now 😱 NO photoshop necessary 😱

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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024

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  • @maurice7978
    @maurice7978 10 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for this in-depth update. That flyaway beta looks insane. Although you must not worry about solid studio backgrounds as a wedding photographer, I have found the background cleanup feature alone worth the price of admission alone. Very powerful. And I always love seeing your images of Tatum and Tess.

    • @VanessaJoy
      @VanessaJoy  10 месяцев назад +1

      Yes! I’ve used it a few times and it’s amazing!

    • @maurice7978
      @maurice7978 10 месяцев назад

      @@VanessaJoy Oh, cool 👍

  • @andrewelder2739
    @andrewelder2739 10 месяцев назад

    Great new features!! You probably covered it last time, but I'm in LOVE with the background enhance and replace too!

  • @callyscorner
    @callyscorner 11 месяцев назад

    This is Amazing Vanessa!! I’m loving the new office ❤

    • @VanessaJoy
      @VanessaJoy  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks!! Definitely making a video when it’s all done!

  • @Aracuss
    @Aracuss 10 месяцев назад

    Vanessa thank you for this video and clear explanation, I have signed up and my friend as well. The amount of time this save is crazy. ❤

  • @jeffsimbro7742
    @jeffsimbro7742 11 месяцев назад +4

    I was very apprehensive to try this but now I'm loving it, especially the flyaways. I'm a portrait photographer, mostly studio, and able to deliver more edits to my clients without being up to 2 in the morning lol. My only wish is for the ability to work with Lightroom or Photoshop better. I'd love to load my images from Evoto directly from lightroom, like a plug in, and have my Evoto edits drop back into LR. Then from LR I can select the images I need to do some extra edits in PS. I just hate exporting TIFF files from LR, doing the Evoto edits, then uploading again. I know Evoto wants to be a stand alone, but I catalog everything in LR and I'm loving generative fill/expand in PS so I can't give those up! Maybe influencers like you could convince them to incorporate Evoto into the Adobe workflow, and still be able to charge for the edits. Anyway, sorry for the rant...thanks for sharing this!

    • @VanessaJoy
      @VanessaJoy  11 месяцев назад +3

      Oooo I’d love that too!!

    • @jeffsimbro7742
      @jeffsimbro7742 11 месяцев назад

      @@VanessaJoy I did message them with that request. Their answer was they wanted to be stand alone, but that's a big ask. Maybe you and others in the business could request as well? I'm sure it would have more weight coming from you :)

  • @esphilee
    @esphilee 11 месяцев назад +1

    I think people should learn to appreciate the beauty of imperfection. I don't know, but most people, however, prefer something perfectly fake, and there is always money in that.

    • @VanessaJoy
      @VanessaJoy  11 месяцев назад +1

      I agree with you entirely

    • @MassiveBenny
      @MassiveBenny 11 месяцев назад

      Do you mean "I can't be bothered to/am not very good at, editing?"😅

  • @SonicEchoVoid
    @SonicEchoVoid 3 месяца назад

    Do you know how to send edited photos to Evoto from Lightroom? Is there a way to do this?

    • @VanessaJoy
      @VanessaJoy  3 месяца назад

      Yes you can load from a Lightroom catalog. Just start the program and click the Lightroom import option

  • @peterniko5816
    @peterniko5816 11 месяцев назад

    Go look at the packages and what why are priced at on the website. WOW.

  • @rickpinelli1586
    @rickpinelli1586 11 месяцев назад +1

    I do not like subscription software. I will wait until ON-1 or Luminar offer these features in their standard upgrades. Considering the speed of AI tech these days, it won't be long.
    Happy New Year Vanessa...

    • @VanessaJoy
      @VanessaJoy  11 месяцев назад

      This isn’t subscription 😜 happy new year!

    • @rickpinelli1586
      @rickpinelli1586 11 месяцев назад

      Yes, I know, but I do not want to pay (use credits) every time I use it. I prefer that it is a standalone program that I can buy, and do as many photos as needed.
      Thank you for the video, I had not heard of this company.@@VanessaJoy

  • @jukeboxjohnnie
    @jukeboxjohnnie 11 месяцев назад

    I will check it out, I dont really understand photoshop. The catchlights model in the middle looked to have way to much skin smoothing for me im not into the plastic look 🙂

    • @VanessaJoy
      @VanessaJoy  11 месяцев назад

      Nice! The best part is it’s so easily adjusted to taste, and then you can save your preferences and paste them on future jobs!

  • @BigPapaJames
    @BigPapaJames 11 месяцев назад

    I have a couple of commercial shoots coming up and I am curious to try this... thank you for the video

    • @VanessaJoy
      @VanessaJoy  11 месяцев назад

      You’ll be quite pleased I’m sure!

  • @MichaelFord15
    @MichaelFord15 10 месяцев назад

    Ok, I had to rewind twice. How the heck did you have your intro same my name? 🤯

    • @VanessaJoy
      @VanessaJoy  10 месяцев назад

      Haha got you ☺️ did you sub?

  • @_SYDNA_
    @_SYDNA_ 11 месяцев назад +1

    So, to me, this stuff is spooky. The newer Canon DPP 4 seems to do some of this. I shot a post-baptism with an R3/RF 24-70. I typ shoot sports so I just let the R3 do the driving other than register an exposure ref spot away from window. Pulled into DPP4 and a bunch of subtle skin & wrinkle stuff just smoothed away. Couldnt figure out how to turn it off but the folks loved it.
    Thanks for showing this. Appreciated the affordability and interesting billing structure that gives the company feedback on what has value to consumers. Still havent opened a vein for Adobe, so this stuff is good to know.
    So is retouching pretty much assumed now for wedding photography? Is there a point where people push back that they feel it's dishonest or are they mostly just glad to get good pics that aren't burdened by strands of fly-away hair? Child-like question I guess.

    • @VanessaJoy
      @VanessaJoy  11 месяцев назад

      Oh that’s interesting. I haven’t seen that myself.
      I personally don’t retouch any wedding photos unless they request it

    • @mortenthorpe
      @mortenthorpe 11 месяцев назад

      I understand the “professional photographers need speedy edits” thing, because you aren’t really photographing for the sake of the art, but at some point paying for portraits becomes expensive enough that I would think you’d have to consider the art as well, e,g. Knowing when the boundaries of a good honest photo are about to be broken in editing. To me, most of these examples, especially the skin-edits, are totally artificial, and break that boundary… on another note… I don’t think any client being presented with the non AI version would like it any less… photos are reminders to evoke memories, and as such nitpicky editing make zero difference…. In fact it might just harm the memory

    • @_SYDNA_
      @_SYDNA_ 11 месяцев назад

      @@mortenthorpe @mortenthorpe Yep. More broadly it's kind of a question of who we think we are. You'll notice when photography 1st came out in the late 1800's nobody smiled. The point was to catch a record. To discover (and document) what you looked like outside of the narrow portal provided by a mirror. To smile probably would have seemed false. Now, if we're posed in a line up we feel a little naked without smiling. "No. I'm not sad. Why do you ask?" or "See that guy in the middle of the line who's not smiling? He looks mad. I wonder if he needs therapy?" And so on.
      Not sure what was going on in DPP4 with that set of shots. I have a very fast computer but in that session pictures emerged over a fraction of a second. You could see an overly contrast-y gravely image with age spots and things overly pronounced, be suddenly absorbed by beautiful, relatively smooth-skinned people. Eyes were sharp but only the largest of age spots remained in a faded form. Beautiful but subtle. Maybe I was witnessing the interpretation of RAW that naturally occurs. I had just upgraded and maybe Canon threw in a brief sample of the neural processing feature that they now charge a monthly fee for. (My best guess) ... or perhaps God was trying to say "This baptism is special."?!? .. or maybe I'm just THAT good of a photographer : ) When I shoot sports it's fast, at a distance. Lettering on the balls may be clear but not the pores on your skin. That being said, I don't think I'm seeing the same effect on the sports shots. Sports is shot on M. This was P with tweeks. Maybe that means something. I do agree with Canon that the R3 seems to resolve as well or a bit better than a 5D-MkIV. Maybe there's some better AI included in that.
      I'm kinda with Vanessa's sentiment of "touch-ups only if they ask for it." At a wedding they've asked you to record their special day, to capture the best of its flavor and light .... but not to invent it. There have been a couple of brief moments in my marriage when the wedding pictures that my wife placed artfully around the house were part of what held that commitment before God together. I don't think those photos would have that same power if we felt the images had been "cooked."

    • @_SYDNA_
      @_SYDNA_ 10 месяцев назад

      Follow-up. Seeing the same thing with sports photos. Unfolds over about 4 seconds. This may just be a sharpening mechanism or advanced processing of the raw. It does seem to support some very small cropped zones despite the 24mpix

  • @mikel5094
    @mikel5094 11 месяцев назад +1

    Does the credits expires if not used ?

    • @pawl_s
      @pawl_s 11 месяцев назад

      I have contacted them exactly about that. As a hobby shooter I do not retouch 1200 portraits in a year. They wrote, that if I do not use the credits before year's end I can contact them and we can talk. No clear statement, unfortunately.

    • @mikel5094
      @mikel5094 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@pawl_s that’s crazy. Thank you for the info I appreciate it.

    • @VanessaJoy
      @VanessaJoy  11 месяцев назад +1

      That one I’m not sure. But they are a smaller company with good customer service so I could see them making exceptions.

    • @mikel5094
      @mikel5094 11 месяцев назад

      @@VanessaJoy cool thank you 😊

  • @DIGITALMIND63
    @DIGITALMIND63 11 месяцев назад

    Impressive! It states the plan duration is one year. Does this mean if I don't use all my credits in one year I lose them???

    • @VanessaJoy
      @VanessaJoy  11 месяцев назад +1

      As far as I know they don’t actually expire, mine haven’t anyway, and from what I’ve heard from others they’re open to a conversation about rolling it over. They’re a small company so it’s easy to get good customer service. Just reach out!

  • @thenexthobby
    @thenexthobby 11 месяцев назад

    Credit packages are good for 1 year, with no explanation why there would be a time limit.

    • @VanessaJoy
      @VanessaJoy  11 месяцев назад

      I’ve heard that can be extended

  • @geniferteal4178
    @geniferteal4178 11 месяцев назад +1

    In general these kind of demonstrations show what the potential is but lack in the details because you're not going for a specific change just an overall improvement. If you want to make a specific change in a specific way, there's a good chance this won't match exactly what you're trying To Do.
    Not saying that's a bad thing. this will probably save a lot of work in the long run but if you have a particular way you want things to be, it may be hard to use software like this because it's generalized to work in generally a good way.

    • @VanessaJoy
      @VanessaJoy  11 месяцев назад

      Yeah and I have to say I’ve never been very good at severely altering a photograph - though I think that’s a job of Adobe AI anyway

  • @ed61730
    @ed61730 11 месяцев назад +3

    Eh it's ok but I wouldn't call it 'retouching' more like a small touch up. I wouldn't never send any of these results to a client without tons of extra work. The wrinkles didn't actually remove anything in his shirt...

    • @VanessaJoy
      @VanessaJoy  11 месяцев назад

      It does everything I need to retouch at this point. How do you not see the wrinkles from his shirt removed? It’s a drastic difference

    • @ed61730
      @ed61730 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@VanessaJoy That's fair enough, art is always subjective, I do love the style of your videos though. On the wrinkles 7:46 ... a fair amount of these wrinkles have been removed but to me this looks like harsh frequency separation with no editing. If you look at the colors top left and right, off blue discolouring. Then under his shirt picket green hue which come from smoothing out the tone. Drastic difference but still needs a lot of work. I was looking more at time stamp 8:00 which looks much more natural and a better starting point to edit on top. If this is good enough for you, fair enough.

    • @VanessaJoy
      @VanessaJoy  11 месяцев назад +1

      @@ed61730you sound like you know your retouching ❤definitely passes my expertise and what I (and my clients) can see. Thanks for the insight

  • @strippedlist
    @strippedlist 11 месяцев назад +1

    All the Retouchers in the world: Anyone can be a photographer, you don't need Vanessa Joy at your wedding paying 5000 dolars, pay 10 students with iphones 200 dolars each and give them something to drink, you will have amazing images

    • @VanessaJoy
      @VanessaJoy  11 месяцев назад +1

      I charge $15,000 😉

  • @Ruscombephotos
    @Ruscombephotos 11 месяцев назад

    Happy Holidays, Vanessa and Happy New Year to you. Does the remove wrinkle feature work on a backdrop that has a few unwanted and unplanned creases in it?

    • @VanessaJoy
      @VanessaJoy  11 месяцев назад +1

      I haven’t tried it on that BUT they have a background smoothing/fixing feature and it’s pretty good

  • @richarddukeshire
    @richarddukeshire 11 месяцев назад

    Luminar vs this and you can only choose one, what would you use and why if you don't mind. Looking for options for editing and trying to sort through all the options.

    • @VanessaJoy
      @VanessaJoy  11 месяцев назад +1

      So for me personally because I do a lot more skin and hair than anything else, it’s Evoto for me

    • @richarddukeshire
      @richarddukeshire 11 месяцев назад

      @@VanessaJoy thank you for your reply. Hope you and your family had an amazing Christmas.

  • @zoomphotografie
    @zoomphotografie 11 месяцев назад

    Insane indeed

  • @rj67photo55
    @rj67photo55 11 месяцев назад +1

    Some ppl no matter the make up and perfect lighting…will have dark circles under eyes…any ai help there would help.

    • @VanessaJoy
      @VanessaJoy  11 месяцев назад

      Yeah for those with deep set eye sockets it can be very difficult to light them ☺️ this helps!

  • @mshea5906
    @mshea5906 11 месяцев назад +1

    Amazing indeed BUT why do I feel like Lightroom & Photoshop SHOULD be leading in the touchup game? Years ago, when they went to the subscription model I said that they now have less incentive to offer leading upgrades...and here we are. smh

    • @VanessaJoy
      @VanessaJoy  11 месяцев назад

      I mean, I wouldn’t be surprised if they jump ahead at some point

  • @dannydiazphoto
    @dannydiazphoto 11 месяцев назад

    Great stuff, Vanessa! This would be fantastic for my commercial photography and the turnaround time is just absurd. Times are indeed changing! 🙌🏾‼️

    • @VanessaJoy
      @VanessaJoy  11 месяцев назад

      They absolutely are!

  • @kh1188ish
    @kh1188ish 11 месяцев назад

    When you did the stray hair, all of a sudden you can clearly see the evoto watermark that was hidden in the highlights. Why?

    • @VanessaJoy
      @VanessaJoy  11 месяцев назад +1

      Bc you pay upon export so the watermark is there so you don’t screenshot it

  • @adrianomoreira1341
    @adrianomoreira1341 11 месяцев назад

    Vanessa, it really looks like a fantastic tool. The subtlety is impressive. I'll try.
    By the way: I think you need a pop up filter to soften the microphone's plosives.
    Happy holidays, a great new year and greetings from Brazil (Rio de Janeiro)

  • @BigAntTVMedia
    @BigAntTVMedia 10 месяцев назад

    great software but too bad u can buy it outright and get software updates

    • @VanessaJoy
      @VanessaJoy  10 месяцев назад

      I don't know any software that allows that at this point

  • @mikel5094
    @mikel5094 11 месяцев назад

    😄😄😄 I've been subscribe lol

  • @richardlopez46
    @richardlopez46 11 месяцев назад +2

    Looks great, but AI will probably replace us all at some point. :/

    • @VanessaJoy
      @VanessaJoy  11 месяцев назад +2

      I think it will do a lot of damage to a lot of jobs, but us humans are great at innovating past technological advancements I think

  • @Getsuga2000
    @Getsuga2000 11 месяцев назад +3

    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 JUST BECAUSE YOUR RETOUCHING IS NOT GOOD, DOESNT MEAN REAL RETOUCHERS ARE GOING TO BE WORRY ABOUT THIS 😂😂😂😂

    • @VanessaJoy
      @VanessaJoy  11 месяцев назад

      Good for you!

    • @CSMoviePhoto
      @CSMoviePhoto 11 месяцев назад +1

      Some people work with a phone instead a real camera, for web is ok but for publication not even close :)

    • @strippedlist
      @strippedlist 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@CSMoviePhotohow many photographers you know worling for magazines? It's an illusion

    • @CSMoviePhoto
      @CSMoviePhoto 11 месяцев назад

      @@strippedlist Good joke!🤣 You must have all your pictures ready to print at large size. Else you are only an influencer, not a photographer!

  • @kodithebear
    @kodithebear 11 месяцев назад

    Most edits look over processed TBH. Why those unicorn eyes? 🤣 Hair tidy is worth a download and try though. Is that works it will save me so much editing time as a commercial photographer. Thanks for sharing. The credit payment system though???? Yukkkk!

    • @VanessaJoy
      @VanessaJoy  11 месяцев назад

      It’s subjective. You can back off as much as you’d like. And you pay retouchers per image don’t you? What’s the difference? That’s all you’re doing here except it’s Pennies and you buy in bulk bc credit cards charge 30 cents plus 3% a transaction so if they didn’t charged that way they’d run the risk of literally making negative dollars.

  • @HemantKumar-ot3er
    @HemantKumar-ot3er 11 месяцев назад

    Please get a pop filter for your microphone or move it back a few inches. The plosives are really annoying.

    • @VanessaJoy
      @VanessaJoy  11 месяцев назад

      Aren’t they? I turned down the mic’s sensitivity a bunch but it didn’t help 😭 I have forceful lips apparently

  • @MatteoCremaBL
    @MatteoCremaBL 11 месяцев назад +2

    so this is why every photogtrapher/retoucher is desperately trying to became an influencer/on line teacher. So sad.

    • @VanessaJoy
      @VanessaJoy  11 месяцев назад +1

      Bc they think their jobs are going away? I’d venture to say it’s more that a lot of people look at that as the “next step” in their careers

    • @MatteoCremaBL
      @MatteoCremaBL 11 месяцев назад

      @@VanessaJoy this is another point of view, for sure. More towards an optimistic and proactive way of thinking. But recently (maybe it's only in my social bubble) i've seen a lot of collegues trying to jump to another market and rebranding themselves instead of improving their actual job with theese new tools. As a wedding photographer, I use some AI tools, but I am aware that the photo wedding industry is still a safe market, which cannot be entirely replaced by new AI technologies (assuming that there are no spouses so lazy as to want to recreate their marriage with midjourney). My "sadness" comes from the fact that in a very short time some colleagues have decided to abandon the photography ship from the point of view of practical execution and have hastily embraced the concept of content creator/teacher. Nothing bad, but it leaves me a little bitter. A final thought on commissioned portrait photography. How long will it take to get people used to the fact that instead of having a portrait taken by a real photographer, it will be enough to upload a photo with your cell phone to obtain a perfect, or even imperfect, portrait according to the exact specifications of the client? This is already a reality, and I see these "middle" tools as a very short-lived moment of transition imho.

  • @jalf0007
    @jalf0007 11 месяцев назад

    Juliana 😍

  • @callikeating3618
    @callikeating3618 7 месяцев назад

    AI putting retouchers out of business 😢

    • @VanessaJoy
      @VanessaJoy  7 месяцев назад

      Yeah I would have to agree there. Granted, it’s not for extensive retouching but definitely for the basics.

  • @michaelrueckert8507
    @michaelrueckert8507 11 месяцев назад

    I want to know how you knew my name in the video... That was weird!

    • @VanessaJoy
      @VanessaJoy  11 месяцев назад

      Haha got you!!! Did you subscribe?

    • @michaelrueckert8507
      @michaelrueckert8507 11 месяцев назад

      @@VanessaJoy I thought I already was subscribed! How did you do that? Is it a new feature in RUclips??

    • @michaelrueckert8507
      @michaelrueckert8507 11 месяцев назад

      @@VanessaJoy Ok so I had my friend play the video and I now realize that you just threw a name out there. I thought maybe RUclips had some new feature where it would verbally speak the name of the viewer! That would be insane.

  • @AndyDay
    @AndyDay 16 дней назад

    Amazing! But veins are blue. They contain blue blood. These are capillaries carrying oxygenated blood. There's no such thing as a red vein! 😆

    • @VanessaJoy
      @VanessaJoy  16 дней назад

      Omg… nitpicking this much? Nothing better to do today Dr?

  • @myworldfriends123
    @myworldfriends123 11 месяцев назад

    😀😍🤩🙂😊

  • @daveygee434
    @daveygee434 11 месяцев назад +1

    OMG‼️ Just seen the pricing! This video is a shameless plug for yet another over priced photography tool. And don’t even think of trying to justify the cost by copying and pasting all the usual excuses…

    • @VanessaJoy
      @VanessaJoy  11 месяцев назад

      Yeah I don’t find pennies an image expensive personally, but I run a profitable photography business which might be different than others who don’t understand what costs of business are 🤷🏻‍♀️

  • @bigrobotnewstoday1436
    @bigrobotnewstoday1436 11 месяцев назад

    There pricing I a rip off. If the software is installed on your computer they should allow people to buy it. Or even a subscription service would be better. They are a dirty company.

  • @jplimages
    @jplimages 11 месяцев назад

    No. Just no!

  • @RichardJPhotog
    @RichardJPhotog 10 месяцев назад +1

    Vanessa,i have been following you for about a year. Not for your retouching abilites, but for your posing and lighting tips. I have to say, I am dissapointed. The AI money truck has parked in every influencers driveway. I hoped better for you. You are pushing trash software for your own monetary benefit. This software is garbage. Please, take a long look in the miirror. Know that there are a lot of new photographers out there that are easily influentled. I know the money is easy, but stick to your roots. You and many others need to stop this. ...now I know, your going to jump on the defence, your spicy and thats why i follow you. ...just stop...think.....your steering new photographers down an "easy" path...we both know, its a path to failure. Happy new year. Dont fall into the fad.

    • @VanessaJoy
      @VanessaJoy  10 месяцев назад +3

      My roots are I retouch for my clients, always have, and this software makes my life easier and my clients happier. I personally and
      commercially use it. Happily. Without being paid to use it in my own business. I’m happily promoting a GOOD product that will help PLENTY of photographers maintain good business practices and keep happy clients. Those of us that actually serve consumers for a living, and need to maintain relevancy in an ever-changing market to keep up with client wishes, understand this.
      Take a long look in the mirror and stop judging people you think you know. It’s embarrassing.

  • @000CloudStrife
    @000CloudStrife 11 месяцев назад +9

    It’s still not there. It does only about 30% of the work. What is it with bad misleading videos.

    • @ed61730
      @ed61730 11 месяцев назад +7

      It's called clickbait to make you watch.

    • @000CloudStrife
      @000CloudStrife 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@ed61730 well that’s why I put an explanation or a warning on these types of videos. Whoever wants to listen and actually learn will do so. Ai will destroy the mid tier part of the industry and the low tear will continue to be a race to the bottom. True high end will evolve and use ai to help with small issues that weren’t corrected in camera or couldn’t because humans are built with imperfections. Most Photographers will continue thinking they are retouchers due to ai. Not bother to master the final third of the wholistic photography triangle.

    • @ed61730
      @ed61730 11 месяцев назад

      @@000CloudStrife This is true, it's about using everything together. Generative fill for exmaple has changed my workflow so much when used with everything else.

    • @ed61730
      @ed61730 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@000CloudStrife Retouching is an artform and is mostly drawing, whether dodge and burn or compositing. This ai is great and will really speed up our workflows... but it's not retouching.

    • @000CloudStrife
      @000CloudStrife 11 месяцев назад

      @@ed61730I had given an in depth explanation but it seems my comment was removed haha.(at least I can’t see it)People don’t like when facts are given.

  • @daveygee434
    @daveygee434 11 месяцев назад +1

    So essentially this video is just an advert and showcase for your work, right? Sigh 💤

    • @VanessaJoy
      @VanessaJoy  11 месяцев назад +2

      Well pretty much every video on my RUclips channel shows my work and my process for getting it…sigh. Should I start using someone else’s?

  • @tomlangton782
    @tomlangton782 11 месяцев назад

    Plastic.