Victor was a pretty damn good duelist when that was his role. His Raze and Neon were pretty insane during the OpTic days. I feel like his Jett was pretty underrated too when it was the Chamber meta. Kinda bummed that he’s primarily a sentinel player now but that makes sense since they picked up Demon1. A role swap was probably inevitable from either Victor and/or Crashies since they’re basically an inseparable duo at this point.
I still remember a match in haven, where Victor cleared the whole left side of C site and the right side was cleared with fades ult, the way he created space for the team and tucked in the left the side of the site made them win the round!!
I know the chances of him leaving PRX is basically 0, but I feel like he would thrive in a team with a proper system with his capabilities as a flex. Dare I say I wanna see him on T1 so he can play alongside xccurate
@@alexmok2Tbh I really want xccurate to replace monyet in prx. Nothing against monyet bt synergy wise xccurate will be much more suitable for prx according to me.
@@LordEsu10 couldnt agree more. Xccurate has that hunger and confidence. Meanwhile, monyet, requires constant motivation support which can drain the team i believe. He’s a great player but just not for the team. However in the lower finals he has been gaining confidence. Just his utility usage is garbage and needs rework. If PRX want to keep him, they need a lot of work for those raze plays
@@tarunsam3366 i see forsaken as the best flex player like bro just plays valorant he plays any agent at a high level plays well as a smoke,support,senti,duelist and can drop 30+ kills out of nowhere and after madrid i can say he is the best because he comes up big for them in games like especially against kc,heretics,edg at times it felt like forsaken was the only one doing well his 1v5 against edg was crazy
I'm sorry but Aspas raze is not even close to zekken's, it's not even a contest, no one can even touch Zekken's raze rn, and that is one of the reasons why Sen is so much better than everyone.
@@rakuichijou9557 thats what im saying this all really depends on the team u r on if they perform well u will be a god but if not u get forgotten in my view jawgemo is the best raze in the world only other comparable is jingg and his jett is nasty as well
Yeah but he isnt good at all or rather he isnt comfortable on all the duelist pick yet. Not even his fault because of how new this team is and them mostly running phoenix
@@isk2829that’s crazy 💀if jingg was playing Zekken would be out of Madrid already 😂, jawgemo is the best raze stop glazing Zekken these sen fans are outrageous
Demon1 can literally top frag on Astra in a finals game. He can do it all. Definitely the best duelist, maybe Derke, Forsaken and Jing are also contenders. Tf is this guy on??
Idc if this is like months ago but the keyword fns is mentioning over these duelist players is they're playing as entry fraggers. Demon1 isn't, he's just an aimer.
hes been on hard duelist for a while now, also he hasnt played neon in a while and even then hes played skye twice as much as neon. should tell you how long its been lol. aspas is still undisputed duelist. and forsaken is best all rounder itw.
@@vengeancegq6ro it doesn't matter how long it's been, be clearly still has the skills to do it. There's no reason aspas is undisputed cause the man's played 3 matches and had multiple low impact maps. Tho I do agree that forsaken is the best flex in the game I was just talking about comparing zekken to all the duelists, specifically Americas
it really does. valorant is a meta based game even the map pool changes. just because you could do it then doesnt mean you can do it now. even if you wanted to include those games, aspas neon has the better numbers. also you said hes the best all rounder in the world lol mustve been a mistake. @@343JustMe
So has aspas, forsaken, victor, and rb. They have better international performances than zekken has ever had and yet people still call him the best duelist in the world for some reason.
Idk about this year w lev so far but people making it seem like aspas isn’t him, this guy single handedly used to win games. Zekken is the best right now but year just started let’s see
@@nutshellggdarken7114 Kinda true, leaf's raze is not as good as his jett, but what im trying to say is that having low sens does not mean you can't play raze, it's just that demon1 is not a raze player.
Qck has the most consistent and insane Jett imo. His plays on raze and phoenix however aren’t out of this world so that’s where he’s lacking. But don’t forget he Jett diffed Aspas and Kangkang or whatever his name is. Both of which were considered to be the goat atm. Don’t be surprised if Qck makes a lot of haters eat their own words :)
Vic just plays well, his raze isn't on the same level as Zekken, Aspas or Jawgemo. He is a good flex player but definitely not like Jawg, that man on raze is like jett with updraft and dash
mwzera ta desde q o valorant lançou sendo um jogador insano q n acha time a altura, triste q ele provavelmente vai fechar a carreira com quase ngm sabendo o nome dele fora do brasil
Worst take of all time He played Astra and brim and dropped better ratings than he did on Jett If his aim is the only good thing about him,how did he get Champs MVP? That's just disrespectful to the other players if you're saying it's that easy to MVP the biggest tournament of the year
Aspas and Demon1 both won Champs but Aspas can play Raze and Jett at a high level. Aspas is definitely the best. Too bad he left LOUD. Ruined his career
@@zellsissaybuythesenbundle how is zekken better than aspas? lol. the recency bias is crazy on some of you people. but you're probably a sen fan so it doesnt even matter ngl
not really he chose for it to be that way. Its like the difference between "F-N-S" and "Fi-Ness", FNS changed his name (for a little) because he wanted people to say it that way ig
what does this mean for C9?
Bring back yay 😂
@@rpchn5698 They're broke, they can't afford him
@@mogar4099if he has a bad season then surely he won’t cost as much
*How does this affect TSM?*
when does TSM play?
Victor was a pretty damn good duelist when that was his role. His Raze and Neon were pretty insane during the OpTic days. I feel like his Jett was pretty underrated too when it was the Chamber meta. Kinda bummed that he’s primarily a sentinel player now but that makes sense since they picked up Demon1. A role swap was probably inevitable from either Victor and/or Crashies since they’re basically an inseparable duo at this point.
Fax bruh been saying since 2022 no one in NA created space like Victor did
Vic had to entry tho since the team revolved around Yay
I still remember a match in haven, where Victor cleared the whole left side of C site and the right side was cleared with fades ult, the way he created space for the team and tucked in the left the side of the site made them win the round!!
Keznit also plays a god tier Jett and Raze, but he does not have 4 god tier teammates behind him
also he is rac1st
wait really?@@Ratovx
Nah he tweaking @@AhmadLowkey
God had to nerf KRU by letting DaveeyS rest, RIP gone too soon
@@Ratovx even better
Forsaken pretty much is good in all thoso agents despite he’s a flex. He was a demon on jett and neon.
True, forsaken has to be one of the best flex players in the world right now
I know the chances of him leaving PRX is basically 0, but I feel like he would thrive in a team with a proper system with his capabilities as a flex. Dare I say I wanna see him on T1 so he can play alongside xccurate
@@alexmok2Tbh I really want xccurate to replace monyet in prx. Nothing against monyet bt synergy wise xccurate will be much more suitable for prx according to me.
@@LordEsu10 couldnt agree more. Xccurate has that hunger and confidence. Meanwhile, monyet, requires constant motivation support which can drain the team i believe. He’s a great player but just not for the team. However in the lower finals he has been gaining confidence. Just his utility usage is garbage and needs rework. If PRX want to keep him, they need a lot of work for those raze plays
@@tarunsam3366 i see forsaken as the best flex player like bro just plays valorant he plays any agent at a high level plays well as a smoke,support,senti,duelist and can drop 30+ kills out of nowhere and after madrid i can say he is the best because he comes up big for them in games like especially against kc,heretics,edg at times it felt like forsaken was the only one doing well his 1v5 against edg was crazy
I'm sorry but Aspas raze is not even close to zekken's, it's not even a contest, no one can even touch Zekken's raze rn, and that is one of the reasons why Sen is so much better than everyone.
agreed. zekken's satchels are perfect nearly everytime
jawgemo?
Dawgemo clears Zekken Raze ..
@@rakuichijou9557 thats what im saying this all really depends on the team u r on if they perform well u will be a god but if not u get forgotten in my view jawgemo is the best raze in the world only other comparable is jingg and his jett is nasty as well
Holy fuck what is this glaze LOL
Surprised no ones talking about s3xture hes looking incredible on both jett and raze
He said americas only bruh........... s3xture is definitely the #1 duelist in APAC right now.
S3xture huh
Korea isn't in the American continents buddy.
@@masberk I'm talking about in general not in NA
@@adreeeel Yea man but the conversation is about americas
qck is so flexible
Yeah but he isnt good at all or rather he isnt comfortable on all the duelist pick yet. Not even his fault because of how new this team is and them mostly running phoenix
his raze is kinda sloppy but hes insane tho
His performance is still very inconsistent
@@rpchn5698 he needs time especially when u trying to adapt with world champions with probably a lot of micros and also the meta is shifting
Aspas clears qck. Forsaken clears qck. Qck is good enough for tier 1 but not for champs.
wasn't zekken a fairly capable neon during his time on XSET? he played neon entry on fracture no?
and pearl too
Zekken the best raze in the world now that jingg isn’t playing.
nah even if jingg was playing zekken clears
@@isk2829sen fans try not to be delusional challenge (impossible)
@@isk2829that’s crazy 💀if jingg was playing Zekken would be out of Madrid already 😂, jawgemo is the best raze stop glazing Zekken these sen fans are outrageous
@@jackeyboi7027 all these ifs and buts lol keep crying.
@@ejay43 if this if that. Cant wait for jingg to play in madrid! oh wait..
Its gotta be forsaken / zekken as the best flexible duelist. Zekken will prove this year why hes #1.
Demon1 can literally top frag on Astra in a finals game. He can do it all. Definitely the best duelist, maybe Derke, Forsaken and Jing are also contenders. Tf is this guy on??
Idc if this is like months ago but the keyword fns is mentioning over these duelist players is they're playing as entry fraggers. Demon1 isn't, he's just an aimer.
Zekken has played all 3 neon raze and jett at the highest level alongside initiator flex.
He is clearly the best all rounder in the world rn
hes been on hard duelist for a while now, also he hasnt played neon in a while and even then hes played skye twice as much as neon. should tell you how long its been lol. aspas is still undisputed duelist. and forsaken is best all rounder itw.
@@vengeancegq6ro it doesn't matter how long it's been, be clearly still has the skills to do it. There's no reason aspas is undisputed cause the man's played 3 matches and had multiple low impact maps.
Tho I do agree that forsaken is the best flex in the game I was just talking about comparing zekken to all the duelists, specifically Americas
No one even get close to f0rsaken as the best all rounder itw rn ..
it really does. valorant is a meta based game even the map pool changes. just because you could do it then doesnt mean you can do it now. even if you wanted to include those games, aspas neon has the better numbers. also you said hes the best all rounder in the world lol mustve been a mistake. @@343JustMe
So has aspas, forsaken, victor, and rb. They have better international performances than zekken has ever had and yet people still call him the best duelist in the world for some reason.
Idk about this year w lev so far but people making it seem like aspas isn’t him, this guy single handedly used to win games. Zekken is the best right now but year just started let’s see
Demon1's sens is too low to play raze. Maybe even Neon
Actually leaf's sens is significantly lower than demon1's. He is just not a raze player.
@@ness_ and can leaf play raze? No.
^ Sorry let me clarify. He can play raze but in comparison to his other duelists like jett, it's day and night.
@@nutshellggdarken7114 Kinda true, leaf's raze is not as good as his jett, but what im trying to say is that having low sens does not mean you can't play raze, it's just that demon1 is not a raze player.
Lol, sens has nothing to do with that, I have seen people taking cracked entries with low sens with raze.
Qck has the most consistent and insane Jett imo. His plays on raze and phoenix however aren’t out of this world so that’s where he’s lacking. But don’t forget he Jett diffed Aspas and Kangkang or whatever his name is. Both of which were considered to be the goat atm. Don’t be surprised if Qck makes a lot of haters eat their own words :)
Mini boo is severely underrated
He's a god on Neon but his Raze doesn't even come close to any of the top Raze players
People keep forgot zekken use to be best neon on americas on xset
F0rsaken: Excuse me..... 😂 i can play...... what you want, what you need, what you are lacking, just give me 1 day to 1 month 😂
Zekken is the best duelist flex ever he can play all duelist agents in high level
Derke’s Raze and Jett is wild
same as zekken not as good as jing. but FNC plays a different play style. his stats are still just as good can even say theyre better.@ben8407
Derke with the "uncle satchel" .. said by Jinggg himself ..
@@rakuichijou9557jinggg can call anyone uncle satchel
sleeping on keznit fr
fr, he is good asf, but he plays on Kru which is dogshit team, maybe a team like lev he could be good but they have aspas.
he is good, but he has to stop overheating and throwing team advantages
Vic just plays well, his raze isn't on the same level as Zekken, Aspas or Jawgemo. He is a good flex player but definitely not like Jawg, that man on raze is like jett with updraft and dash
He ran it today, best raze 😂😂😂.
Bro said only Americas because he knew basically all of PRX is winning this
forsaken can play jett, raze, neon, yoru, and chamber at the highest level.
He's talking about NA dude not apac lol
@@dannyboy26-27 ik j just find it crazy that thats true. Like has anyone else ever shown that they can do that.
He can play every agent probably
demon1 sens is too low for raze no?
leaf plays on a lower sens and still has a solid raze
@@ohnonatsu5177 is it really solid?
Just give mwzera a real team, he has one of the best Jett and raze in Americas
For real bro just trade qck with mwzera for Loud
mwzera ta desde q o valorant lançou sendo um jogador insano q n acha time a altura, triste q ele provavelmente vai fechar a carreira com quase ngm sabendo o nome dele fora do brasil
Mw zera?
demon1 has one thing - aim. and when he misses he is about as average as possible
Worst take of all time
He played Astra and brim and dropped better ratings than he did on Jett
If his aim is the only good thing about him,how did he get Champs MVP? That's just disrespectful to the other players if you're saying it's that easy to MVP the biggest tournament of the year
@@king_thanos_2116 THE Demon1 Meatrider is back, no one missed you😂😂
@@king_thanos_2116 he only does good cus he shoots better his util is not even that good
@@ace.ethan7 Its a tactical shooter, are you dumb? You shoot better, you kill better.
braindead
leaf??
I have never seen aspas play raze. What is he smoking?
? what are you smoking? he droppped 30 on eg during champs on split as raze, and played raze on bind during kickoff
Clown 🤡
Dude only watches highlights of his team winning
Nah demon1 still the best with or without raze
aspas is almost that
zekken smoked all in top 4
tbf zekken not that good on jett his awp is not that good
Fenis D1 aspas glazer LMAO
Asuna?😂
Demon1 easily better
Ahem
Demon1 is the best rifler but he don’t got that duelist movement he should swap roles
bro saying aspas the best because he demolished his team in champs and anytime after they played loud
so he would know best?
Aspas achievement clears any other duelist , and that speaks for himself no ?
Aspas and Demon1 both won Champs but Aspas can play Raze and Jett at a high level. Aspas is definitely the best. Too bad he left LOUD. Ruined his career
@@KianoushAlaviaspas has also been good for a far longer time than demon1, demon1 had 2 good tournaments and played terrible this year
@@chocomint8261this year is wild it’s been 1 month into the season LMAO
forsaken is the best in the world
forsaken hello
He said only in America region not in the world
ASPAS >>>>>
mwzera>>>
@@zzyuk814 what's that
MiniBoo
jiiinggg
yay?
so g2 leaf then lmao
at this event
zekken is the best duelist in americas my top 2 is aspas top 3 should be jawgemo then demon1,oxy thats the top 5
that mans trash
@@zellsissaybuythesenbundle how is zekken better than aspas? lol. the recency bias is crazy on some of you people. but you're probably a sen fan so it doesnt even matter ngl
@@urbad411? If he wins he is.
i realize i developed a minor pet peeve when anyone on a valorant stream says qck1's username as "queue-see-kay" and not "quick"
Weird, since i always wonder that qck1 is quick1
@@saintsblitzazoe3346 his username is one of my favourites in the entire franchise, such a clever name since he's also a duelist
not really he chose for it to be that way. Its like the difference between "F-N-S" and "Fi-Ness", FNS changed his name (for a little) because he wanted people to say it that way ig