The MEGA65 Sells Out! - This Week in Retro 54

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  • Опубликовано: 8 фев 2025

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  • @casaderobison2718
    @casaderobison2718 3 года назад +16

    I decided to buy MEGA65 for a few reasons. One is that it is a connection back to my Commodore days. I don't have a real Commodore 64 at this point so it is nice that it should have that going for it instead of trying to source a recreation mainboard, case, keyboard, etc. It'll be a Commodore 65 for a fraction of the price of what they go for on ebay. Finally, I have an interest in FPGA development. It looks like an awesome platform to use for not just using cores for other systems created by others, but as a platform to target for development. That doesn't take away from MiSTer ... I think they both have a space. Ultimately, I think it's a gorgeous machine.

  • @BarnokRetro
    @BarnokRetro 3 года назад +7

    When I was in high school in the mid 80s I was a Boy Scout, played D&D, I belonged to the marching band, I programmed and played with computers, launched model rockets, I read Star Trek books and listened to old episodes on casettes while traveling.... I was (am) an odd duck and I owned it. I had a great childhood!

  • @tobymalamute2856
    @tobymalamute2856 3 года назад +10

    Spectrum, NES, D&D, Mega Drive, SNES, PC, Metallica, Star Trek, I loved them all. And I still do.

  • @manni1998
    @manni1998 3 года назад +7

    You can still order the Mega65. The Mega65 Team will produce a second batch with 1000pcs.
    It gets shipped during 2022. Hope fully in the first half of 2022.

  • @Djformula
    @Djformula 3 года назад +11

    The mega 65 has an option to load other cores like the mister (not as developed ofc) but breaks it out of this mould of just a recreation. I love the floppy drive on a machine in 2021 and the stunning looking keyboard. If I could afford it I would get it and run an Amiga or Acorn computer core on it.

    • @flogjam
      @flogjam 3 года назад

      8bits4ever - whack it in a A500 or A1200 case.

    • @elmariachi5133
      @elmariachi5133 3 года назад

      Do you know how the Mega65's FPGA performance and cores compare to the MISTer?

  • @martindejong3974
    @martindejong3974 2 года назад +2

    The Camebridge Z88 actually was Clive Sinclairs last computer, and "pipe-dream" was the software that ran on it. It incorporated almost all functionality like text processing, spreadsheet, calculator, database, and telecom Terminal, you would normally expect from any "productivity computer", much like the Tandy model-100 (which actually was a rebranded Japanese product. But much lighter.

  • @mitduschzentrale
    @mitduschzentrale 3 года назад +8

    Bought a MEGA65 and contributed to the cost of producing the case tooling. So my name will be in every 65 case :-) Apart from being a dream come true of a really beautiful machine with that beer glass stand err floppy disk attached to a C64 keyboard it's an amazing concept realized in open source and with quality hardware parts. What's not there to like. P.S. Really looking forward to the beefed up GEOS !

    • @rodoherty1
      @rodoherty1 3 года назад

      Good man! I hope you're delighted with it. It would be great to see a new library of games starting to appear for it!

  • @1960ARC
    @1960ARC 3 года назад +3

    I remember only having two television channels. Lost in space and sting ray. I remember when BBC2 was just a test channel and they showed the same two or three programs over and over.
    There was no talking. One I remember looked like it could have been a village in France, and a squeaky wheel on a cart, a girl would run out and put oil on it.
    Another was a guy who was restoring a car and kept looking at a girl I guess he liked. But a guy would turn up in a sports car, lots of revving of the engine, fast paced music, still no talking, the guy would drive off with the girl, think it was a soft top and both wearing sunglasses.
    Wish these were available to see, I thought they were very amusing, then one day BBC2 came on live and we had 3 channels lol

  • @CanadianRetroThings
    @CanadianRetroThings 3 года назад +5

    I am with Neal on not knowing many people with a Nintendo, for me the number was zero! The ColecoVision, however, I was lucky enough to own as kid and it was GREAT! On weekends all of my friends would come over for game tournaments in my basement.

  • @kingforaday8725
    @kingforaday8725 2 года назад

    When I got rid of our rear projection it was to big for the dumpster and if you set large items beside the dumpster the garbage people wouldn't ever pick it up!
    My work around to get rid of it was to take it apart! Placing a few pieces at a time in the dumpster over several weeks!

  • @rodoherty1
    @rodoherty1 3 года назад +9

    Paul Gardner Stephen, the main developer behind the Mega65, rewrote the Mega65 kernal from scratch as an open source project so that he couldn't be done for copyright violation. What a feat!! I'm very interested in the Mega65 but that price tag is serious. I would love to see the community blossom. It has a bit of a competitor in the Commander X16. Another very interesting project!

    • @TheSulross
      @TheSulross 3 года назад +2

      the Commander 16 project has backed off from doing a case design - so will just be a board offering, and initially will likely just be a bare PCB with a bag of chips - if it gets to where is a pre-populated board then will likely be surface mount chips on a revised board. The Mega65 has ran the full distance and realized all of its goals and aspirations

    • @espressomatic
      @espressomatic 3 года назад +1

      Did you hear the bit in the video about buying retro computer ornaments in the future from the back of the Sunday paper? Sometime around then maybe the X16 will be out. The project had such promise, but I'm afraid there's no direction and the decision to not do a case is a disaster. Now there are polls for X8 and other side projects to confuse matters even more. Time to reboot.

    • @rodoherty1
      @rodoherty1 3 года назад

      @@espressomatic I hadn't heard any of that. I've just read Dave Murray's update on the X16 forum and it sounds like they have certainly hit a rough patch. Maybe I'm being naïve but his explanation sounds reasonable to me. I'd still like to see the project succeed.

    • @espressomatic
      @espressomatic 3 года назад +1

      @@rodoherty1 me too, I hope it comes to fruition in any format. But I can’t hide my disappointment about losing the finishing touches like the case. I felt Perifractic really had the polished product vision for this one, even if it was David’s baby.

    • @bozimmerman
      @bozimmerman 3 года назад +3

      Hi Rob. What impresses me about the M65 is the fact that it will run the complete romset of the original Commodore 65 w/o modification at all. That speaks volumes to me about the fidelty to the hardware in Mr. Gardner-Stephen's implementation.

  • @deponia
    @deponia 3 года назад +1

    I honestly came very close to pre-ordering the Mega65 but where I had to draw the line was being asked for the full cost up front. For an unproven product that was unappealing at this price point. Had it been a $200 deposit deal I probably would have gone for it (and I might still - if they do another run). The appeal to me is that this is, essentially, this is the Commodore computer that wasn't and I've read it about it for many years wondering what it would have been like if it had ever come out. The work these folks have put in to making an incomplete product viable is truly inspiring and I hope I can support them in the future.

  • @RobGMun
    @RobGMun 3 года назад +9

    I love the mega65 but the price is a massive barrier

    • @skykid3
      @skykid3 3 года назад

      I did wince when I seen the price

    • @igork3522
      @igork3522 3 года назад +2

      @@skykid3 Sadly it cannot go lower. If you just look at the hardware it offers and sum the components it just costs that much. It is non profit product and it still costs a lot.

  • @pizzaman71
    @pizzaman71 3 года назад +1

    OMG a Matsui 14 inch colour telly was my daily driver too! Used for my C128 then for my Amiga 500 then 1200 :)

  • @Drebin2293
    @Drebin2293 3 года назад +2

    I am looking forward to the Commander 16. The video chip is a fpga, but not the rest of it. Depends on the final cost on whether I'll end up with one or not though.

    • @gillmaus
      @gillmaus 3 года назад

      @@drphilxr Hi. Why do do think it is dead?

    • @gregclare
      @gregclare 3 года назад +1

      I abandoned the Commander 16 when it became clear they were no longer using the 16 bit namesake 65C816 (which is also the only actual clock-cycle accurate 6502, on power-up). This would have appealed to me, as taking my retro 6502 coding to the next level with new enhanced instructions to learn and play with. Now that the Commander 16 is really just a Commander 8 (8 bit 65C02), I’ll just stick with my C64. :)

  • @TheDesertBlizzard
    @TheDesertBlizzard 2 года назад +1

    Mega65 keeps the idea of READY alive.

  • @philjohn2649
    @philjohn2649 3 года назад +1

    Someone set an “arcade” up in our school using BBC’s mostly playing Chucky Egg (sic) for their business project. We used to “raid the arcade” on a regular basis - aiming to play without paying. Now that is anarchy!

  • @retroobsession7519
    @retroobsession7519 3 года назад +2

    I am older than the computer era but I was definitely a geek. I was locked in my locker by a couple of bullies when I was about 13. It was 2 hours before I was released by teachers

  • @steve87uk
    @steve87uk 3 года назад +2

    34:00 I was so tense to see if you'd get the mic back on in time 😁 P.S. I *definitely* put the anarchist cookbook on the school network! I doubt the years overlapped enough though..

  • @ΞενοφωνΒασιλοπουλος
    @ΞενοφωνΒασιλοπουλος 2 года назад +1

    Awesome Atari is back

  • @johna.dawson709
    @johna.dawson709 3 года назад

    Great Episode.. it took me back to the good old days....

  • @espressomatic
    @espressomatic 3 года назад +1

    This went the way of the Amiga 600 real quick. Killed the potential with the ludicrous price.

  • @valley_robot
    @valley_robot 3 года назад +1

    When people used to ask me who my favourite team was, I used to answer “brutal deluxe” as it’s a team from speedball 2 , nobody ever got the reference

  • @farkasgabor4084
    @farkasgabor4084 3 года назад +1

    I start to save some money for the 65. It looks amazing. I hope it will grow to something special with a large community. I am planing to get into software development on it as well ( i am already an android developed).
    This product is a true bridge between past and future.
    Yeah it is pricey but I believe it is necessary ( at least for a kickstart )

  • @wimwiddershins
    @wimwiddershins 3 года назад

    I really like the Mega65 and can't wait to see how the project and its community develops.
    For me though, I'd probably get more enjoyment out of hardware projects aimed at the original C64. Its been amazing to be part of the resurgence in the C64 hard/software scene.

  • @winstonsmith478
    @winstonsmith478 3 года назад +1

    Agree 100% with the MiSTer comment. It can be most any classic system you want it to be. Cheaper still is emulation on a $100 Raspberry Pi 400 or for free or nearly free on your current x86 desktop or laptop. I feel the same about all FPGA based systems like the Mega65 dedicated to just one classic system and any new machine using old hardware like the Commander X16. I heard an interview with a guy still developing new Atari Lynx games who said he uses the WinUAE Amiga emulator to do that since Lynx games were developed on the Amiga and the emulator is accurate enough to serve that function.

  • @TheSulross
    @TheSulross 3 года назад

    Newly manufactured retro systems is where it's at now (as a participatory hobby - not as vicarious spectator sport)
    The vintage systems have gotten much more expensive on auction sites as well as rarer to come by, and very few people have the abilities of an Adrian Black to be able to repair and get them running again. And then there can be tough challenges to overcome such as mating up to a display device, etc.
    Sure, one is paying a steep premium for a newly manufactured system like the MEGA65, but at least the owner will be able to have a turn-key experience that works. Who said the price of nostalgia has been ordained to come at a pittance?

  • @valley_robot
    @valley_robot 3 года назад

    In the uk it was 2600 , then the spectrum,and after that the master system , these were the machines that were popular,the C64 , the Amiga and the ST were popular in the 90s , then the PC happened and it was PS1 for a while

  • @KennethSorling
    @KennethSorling 3 года назад +1

    I'm relieved. The title made me think the Mega65 creators had betrayed some principle or been bought out by competition, or even scuttled the project altogether. It still sucks that I won't be able to get a Mega65 for quite awhile (I missed out this round), but heartening to see the project come to success and the creators get some captital to produce more.

    • @t-moth64
      @t-moth64 3 года назад

      You can still order the device today.

  • @catriona_drummond
    @catriona_drummond 3 года назад +1

    I was part of a special generation. when I was between 12 and 18 basically all the boys and a good amount of the girls were into computers. I lived in a country that had been behind the Iron curtain until 1989 and in 1990 when we were taken over, err unified with West Germany basically burst on the scene. And we were better off than many other Eastern European countries in having a hard currency from the start, so Amigas, PC's and even still C64s spread among my generation like wildfire. Everyone had to have one.
    So my generation often looks at younger people these days rolling our eyes at the widespread computer illiteracy among people that grew up in the 2000's and later.

  • @aminekostone1411
    @aminekostone1411 3 года назад +2

    No Target in the UK.

  • @MrSketchydave69
    @MrSketchydave69 3 года назад +2

    There is no Target presence in the UK at all...........

  • @TheRealShedLife
    @TheRealShedLife 2 года назад

    1:08 is where this should have started. We're trying to get people to pay attention to the retro scene, immediately, hit it at 1:08

  • @ClayMann
    @ClayMann 3 года назад

    I'm well into my resin 3D printing hobby now and one thing I've wanted to do apart from printing out miniature statues is faithful recreations of old computers all to scale. I'm not sure what scale would be best but I failed just trying to collect enough models of high enough quality to do it.
    I really think there is a market out there for collectible mini's that have no function, no lights, just the colour and shape represented in little statues you can put on your shelves or perhaps wall mount them in a grid showing off systems from every era.

    • @ThisWeekinRetro
      @ThisWeekinRetro  3 года назад +1

      Absolutely-something akin to the size of funko pop figures. I’d love to collect those! -John

    • @andycraig7734
      @andycraig7734 3 года назад

      Hood ornament for the car!

  • @gamedoutgamer
    @gamedoutgamer 2 года назад

    Can't wait for the original IC's to be recreated for proper C= and /|\ new hardware. Emulation is great but not the real thing. C65 looks very nice though.

  • @elmariachi5133
    @elmariachi5133 3 года назад +1

    Huh, John? Nobody was sold out like Atari? It's like you didn't hear of Commodore ..
    Regarding the 65: It seems, the reception of the Mega65/C65 was completely different for you, than for many others. Maybe the scene in the UK was different in that special regard: Here in Germany, there where many people eagerly waiting for the C65, and we have seen the C65's prototype in magazines. So it kind of is 'the Commodore that should have been but never was', not just some modern invention.

  • @ms-ex8em
    @ms-ex8em 2 года назад

    Hello about the 1.44 meg floppy drive - its really 2.0 megs in size - the discs too - when formatted on an IBM it goes to 1.44 megs and on an Apple Mac to 1.40 megs ! - what i want to know is can pc floppy discs be formatted to 1.76 megs? 1.9 megs? even 2.0 or 2.2 megs? too???? theres a program out there called NFormat which does it but its for msdos not windows!! though........

  • @superviewer
    @superviewer 2 года назад

    I started on my farther's ZX Specturm 48k. Got a C64 myself. Sold it to get an Amiga 500. Had a SNES for a short while and had to sell everything when leaving my hometown. I was the geek. The introvert. Still is. But I also made lots of jokes in the crowd and played music, so it wasn't so bad 😅

  • @josephletts1093
    @josephletts1093 3 года назад

    My daily driver TV was exactly the same Sony TV's used in the cave

  • @davidrenton
    @davidrenton 3 года назад

    it's weird even though super nerdy 1 was one of those few at school, no one i knew had a computer early 90's, but here's my admission, I have never played Nintendo. Not Mario, Zelda, never had a console till the 360 (aside from the 2600 as a kid) prior to that an CPC464,ST, then PC.
    My gaming Jam at the age of 16 was Flight Sim's, or any complex strategy games. It's weird even though growing up at the time, there is this whole cultural narrative of Nintendo I totally missed, my brother did have a Dreamcast so I remember Shenmue :)

  • @janwiersma1449
    @janwiersma1449 3 года назад

    speaking about AMOS , maybe something for the carrousel of the A500
    how is that development actually goeing on the new version AMOS as you interviewed the Frenchmen as i remember me correctly? (to Neil)
    and for the A500 as partially a Cloanto product ;) i expect PPaint in the carrousel, as back in the days we had a DPaint (Electronic Arts) package for the Amiga 500.

  • @BenRattigan
    @BenRattigan 3 года назад +1

    Everyone should love Star Trek

  • @chrislong6601
    @chrislong6601 3 года назад +3

    I have 200 plus retro computers and absolutely no interest in console gaming at all. I do have a handful of consoles that have been donated to me but they do nothing at all for me.

    • @bozimmerman
      @bozimmerman 3 года назад

      Hi Chris. No idea what you were referencing here, but same here.
      In fact, it's been kinda rough watching the in-person scene go from "User Group for computer X" to "Expo for computer platform Y" to "Vintage Computer Festival" to "Retro Gaming Event Z". The over-inclusivity often leaves me with little in common with the people I meet at these events, making me wonder if the attempt to capture everyone ends up leaving us all isolated.

  • @marcusmayfield9499
    @marcusmayfield9499 3 года назад

    I definitely felt a bit weird in my middle school days as I was the only one in a class of over 400 that had an Amiga or even knew what an Amiga was.

    • @duncanstyles133
      @duncanstyles133 3 года назад

      I'm guessing you are in the US? I knew many people with various different systems, Amiga was probably one of the more popular. It was a nice mix of 8 and 16 bit users.

    • @marcusmayfield9499
      @marcusmayfield9499 3 года назад +1

      @@duncanstyles133 you are correct. Not only the US, but Oklahoma. Everyone else had a PC, (S)NES, and/or Genesis. Of course, no one else had a parent teaching computer science at the university. My dad said that Amiga was the best platform for programming at the time.

  • @ratspike8017
    @ratspike8017 3 года назад

    I have MP3s of quite a few old Amiga MODs and game soundtracks. I play them in my car. My iGen (or Gen Z if you prefer) 13 year old daughter actually appreciates them... to her it is just music as she never encountered the original media. So she is quite opinionated about which tracks are actually good and which are also-ran. Who knew?

  • @BAZFANSHOTHITSClassicTunes
    @BAZFANSHOTHITSClassicTunes 2 года назад +2

    I have one of those Mini ataris. Nice novelty but unplayable.

  • @andrewd4906
    @andrewd4906 3 года назад +2

    1982 for the channel 4

  • @GraphicalRanger
    @GraphicalRanger 2 года назад +1

    Strangely enough the Steam Deck as device that's great for emulation and overwhelming price kills the C65 for me. Personally more interested in the Amiga or C128

  • @combatdigiq
    @combatdigiq 3 года назад +1

    Looks to me a lot like japanese miniaturization in order to fit it into the "capsule toy" format.
    I suppose their ment to be collectibles and not gamemachines.
    Maybe change the name of the show to "the videogame collectibles show " ?
    Maybe review all plush mario dolls ?

  • @artisticgoose2609
    @artisticgoose2609 3 года назад

    I still listen to .sid tunes now. Music some how back then as you'd class it as game music, to me anyway WAY better then than now.?!!?! Discuss...................

  • @retroobsession7519
    @retroobsession7519 3 года назад +1

    For me It
    was disappointed that they used FPGA rather than engineer a 'remake' of the original concept with making the original chipset or a close representation.

    • @PaulGardnerStephen
      @PaulGardnerStephen 3 года назад +6

      We'd love to do it that way, if you have a spare $10M and chip-fab to lend us :) But without those, FPGA is the closest we can get.

    • @gregclare
      @gregclare 3 года назад +2

      You are viewing an FPGA from the wrong perspective. To make an ASIC, you can develop your “new chip” design using an FPGA. Actually making the step from your FPGA implementation to an ASIC chip is just a question of money and time, typically only justified when you are manufacturing a high volume product. So, you should think of an FPGA as simply being a low volume ASIC. :)

  • @lofi-guy
    @lofi-guy 3 года назад

    I think only the rich kids (in the UK) had a NES. The price of the NES games was extortionate, and I didn't rate the graphics much at the time. We all had Amstrads, Amigas, etc and swapped (or copied) games. I only ever saw one NES years later.

    • @duncanstyles133
      @duncanstyles133 3 года назад +1

      I didn’t know anyone with a NES! Not sure I ever saw one in somebody’s home ever.

  • @benbreeck3363
    @benbreeck3363 3 года назад

    Atari as a brand was killed by the Tramiels, mummified by Hasbro and Infogames, and the company now baring the name has about as much in common with the original Atari Incorporated as Commodore USA had with Commodore Business Machines.
    The cowdfunded "Atari VCS" powered by an off-the-shelf AMD APU (and not even a very good one) is IMNSHO, a perfect example of this sort of tomfoolery.

  • @winstonsmith478
    @winstonsmith478 3 года назад +1

    These micro game consoles are Franklin Mint level, future garage sale junk.

  • @oldhedders
    @oldhedders 3 года назад

    Thinking about the "freaks and weirdos" section ... I don't think that I was bullied for being a nerd. I think I became a nerd because I was bullied. The other kids would break my nose or take my stuff, but the maths prodigy, the kid who knew assembler, the peculiar one who did Model UN ... they were nice to me and they didn't hurt me, so naturally I ended up hanging out with them, and the geekiness sort of rubbed off.

  • @dataterminal
    @dataterminal 3 года назад +2

    I'm sorry to hear you got blamed for the Cook Book being put on the network, Neil. Really glad you've been able to get past that and make something of your life. I went through something like that, but it left me a bit messed up. lol.
    Unfortunately, wrongly being blamed for stuff, it seems happened to a lot of computer enthusiast back then.

    • @andycraig7734
      @andycraig7734 3 года назад

      Yea there are loads of people who's logic is "that guy knows a lot about the topic so he must've been the one who did the bad thing". Or how about the Atlanta Olympics security guard who saw the suspicious backpack and cleared people away before it exploded. He was wrongfully blamed for the bomb they found in it and the news media ruined his life. (Richard Jewell)

  • @musclesmouse
    @musclesmouse 3 года назад

    I remember when Nintendo was hot shit. I was playing my Atari computer with modem.

  • @imnickleonard
    @imnickleonard 3 года назад +2

    NFTs, as dumb as buying a bit of the moon or supposedly naming a star

  • @MatthewHolevinski
    @MatthewHolevinski 3 года назад

    Mega65 sold out! .... damnit

  • @GeoNeilUK
    @GeoNeilUK 2 года назад

    What should Atari do to restore their reputation? *RELEASE GAMES!!!*

  • @kaliban4758
    @kaliban4758 3 года назад

    The atari of today is NOT the same atari of the 1970's or 1980's it is atari in name only

  • @Dr.D00p
    @Dr.D00p 3 года назад +3

    Mega 65....Gotta fleece those grown up Gen X kids with oodles of disposable income.

  • @chrisdaws5382
    @chrisdaws5382 3 года назад

    I think the C64 sold about 17 million units. The raspberry pi has passed 40 million.

    • @imnickleonard
      @imnickleonard 3 года назад

      Different landscape

    • @gillmaus
      @gillmaus 3 года назад +1

      The Pi is just a mainboard, not a personal computer.

    • @andycraig7734
      @andycraig7734 3 года назад

      Is that all the Pi models lumped in together? C64 holds the title for one model having the most sales, I thought. Some sources also put it at 40million but nobody seems to know for sure. I've been curious if Sega MegaDrive's fantastically long life in Brazil may have pushed its numbers well beyond what people normally quote for that console.

    • @gregclare
      @gregclare 3 года назад +1

      … and iPhones have passed 1.9 billion units sold. Not sure what your point is though? Raspberries, Apples and Oranges! The only thing all 3 have in common is that they contain integrated circuits and have electrons running through them. :)