A 2:47 there is a convenient way to make turn the T into a 3x2 using the 1x2 block, and it's possible to simultaneously knock the x centre out so that the 3x2 is clean with no 7th piece stuck to it. For 3 cross edges I don't really know how to improve. I just got more efficient by experience. There are some patterns (especially 2 joined edges forming checkered patterns) that I have specific responses for, but these are better explained with video than with text For last 4 centres/last cross edge, (This is not an improvement point, just personal preference) I prefer to solve all the centres first then do last cross edge. Solving the last cross edge first makes the 3rd centre very difficult with a lot of slice moves I have a system for solving the last cross edge (which will misalign the centres) and then inserting it without having to realign the centres. Then just proceed to freslice 4 edges on the U face. At 4:46, I would have done U F' Lw' U2 Lw (personal preference again, more of a method difference than a tip) unless I spot an obvious F2L pair, I would solve last 4 edges before starting F2L
Just wanted to comment this because I'm a Yau user: For 5x5 I was using Yau from the beginning, and for 6x6 I made the switch when I started to stagnate with reduction. Yau is really good if you know that edges is your weak point. The cross edges are just generally easier than the first 4 edges in pure freeslice reduction, and majority of the solve has red (that is my cross colour) on the bottom without having to flip around. The second set of 4 edges are also extremely easy. I solve 6x6 centres + edges + cross with yau just as fast as centres + edges with reduction. That's equivalent to a cross skip and no cross-F2L transition, both of which are like giant wastes of time to me.
yeah i feel like compared to yau4 there's a much bigger advantage in yau5 regarding the cross edges. however i find that with 4x4 last 4 centers, you can easily preserve the cross efficiently by using slice moves instead of like R Rw' for example. on 5x5 i find it harder to do that, since the slice layers are smaller and harder to turn. often the centers just feel uncomfortable, but i wont know for sure if it's too bad until i get used to dealing with all the center cases with the yau5 restriction
I did try solving the last cross edge first a few times before but I didn't like how the 3rd centre turned out. I actually used the term "Yau4" to refer to a totally different context in a video series I used to upload, using the term to refer to solving of L4E before starting F2L, instead of solving the last cross edge after L4C. I used to upload a series titled "Yau in 5x5", where episode 1(mostly a comparison video) focuses on where my method differs from the mainstream Yau5. (Briefly mentioning the last cross edge, but most of it lies in the L4E) The 2/3 centres in episode 2 (more of a tutorial) is a fun thing I have been doing for years, it's like half centres on 4x4, but adapted slightly for 5x5. Subequently, it's just 2 minor tips and 1 unlisted example solve video.
At about 7 minutes where the mirror alg is on the opposite side, you could try 3Uw, flipping alg, 3Uw' And this is and awesome series idea, I'm excited to watch your progress
+Micah Owen Morrison Normally I try to do stuff like that but on big cubes it's like SUPER awkward to change that, and I end up.doing a bunch of things wrong. I'll try though and see how it goes
Feliks and Kevin Hays (world top 2) both use freeslice. Feliks said Mats Valk is using Yau and showing that it can be viable. Could be worth your time to see if freeslice feels better to you early on before you commit to an edge pairing style. Think this was in Feliks’ 5x5 example solves video, but could be on his “Cubeskills” RUclips channel. Highly suggest checking out his cube skills 5x5 videos too. Btw love your content Jperm, keep up the great work
thanks! my idea is that yau5 would be harder to switch to than reduction, so im learning it first. reduction feels a lot cleaner if that makes sense, since there are fewer steps and the centers are a lot nicer. right now im a bit faster with yau5 but i might switch to reduction in the future. i actually learned yau5 from the cubeskills tutorials since it was the best non-video tutorial i could find (im impatient lol)
it's far less fun than yau4 though. for 4x4 the harm of yau is slightly longer centers, but the benefit is crazy easy look ahead on last 8 edges (plus more efficient first 3 edges). on 5x5 the harm of yau5 is also longer centers, but centers take longer in the first place and slice moves are much slower than on 4x4, so this is a bigger harm than on 4x4. the benefit is more efficient first 3 edges and slightly easier look ahead on last 8 edges. you dont get any really nice edge techniques like 3-2-3 edge pairing for 4x4, so it's not a huge advantage. that's why reduction vs yau5 kind of even out, and yau5 is a big more complicated to execute than yau4.
I'd say lookahead on reduction is extremely difficult immediately after centres since it is so hard to look around the entire cube as you finish up centres, which is one of the reasons why I find Yau5 so much more appealing than Reduction
it looks like a lot of the time you are using slice moves when they are unnecessary. at 4:25 you used a wide slice move to make a bar where it would be much faster to do U Lw' U' Lw. I noticed this in some other places as well and avoiding slice moves will drop time by more that you think. :) (I average about 1:27 on 5x5)
note that im relatively new to 5x5. something that helps me but im not sure if faster 5x5 solvers do this: look for pieces within a specific group. whenever i do reduction instead of yau5, i find it really easy to find white edge pieces, so i tend to do those first, but i'll do other pieces if they happen to be in a nice case. another thing is for yau5, since all my white edges are solved then i try to focus on pairing non-yellow edges
im very impatient and i just wanted a steps breakdown of the method, so i looked here www.cubeskills.com/uploads/pdf/tutorials/the-yau5-method.pdf i havent seen a video tutorial, so i cant really recommend one
What are your thoughts on using 'half centres' on 5x5, Jperm? Like constructing a 3x2 bar on one side of the cube for 3 of the last 4 centres, then using wide R or wide L moves to finish the last 4 centres?
cant say for sure because i've never tried it. i saw a video where jayden mcneill talked about doing a half centers sort of thing for just the outer centers, then the middle centers, then the other layer of outer centers. i actually stopped using half centers on 4x4 (i only use it in about 1/10 solves when the case is stupidly easy for half centers) and usually just go 1 center at a time because i find it easier to focus on 1 color at once. on 5x5 i'll have to try some half centers variant (1/3rd centers?) and see how it goes
yeah cube links are usually in the description :) and i have not tried budget 5x5s, most of the cubes i own were in the last unboxing haha if you're interested there's a full list of cubes in the description there
No offense but I think you are doing yau5 kind of weird. When you are solving your edges after your centers you should only solve 2 and they should be f2l pairs. I know Jayden Mcneil does all 4 f2l edges and then freestyle the l4e but I've never seen a yau5 solver do non f2l edges after centers. Maybe I've been doing it wrong the whole time cause I never really learned from a "tutorial" but it was just weird seeing that. It was like yauduction of something of that sort.
No, that's incorrect Dylan. Yau5 is actually just reducing the cube into centers+cross edges done, and then l8e by doing 4 edges on top then l4e on the E slice. The 2 f2l pair thing is just an optional variant. You can choose to do l8e however you want. I got this info from Robert Yau himself
+Dylan Miller nah I don't know either, I've been told some people do yau5 differently, I thought the cubeskills tutorial was the main way but I was wrong too
The last 3x1 bar case at 4:49 You could have done an F to move the red corner center to the top right and done Rw U2 Rw' and inserted the bar instead of the inefficient way you used. I am a bit faster than you at about 1:32 but I use Redux
Good point, thanks! I started using that in my solves a bit but wasn't sure exactly which case it applied to every time, so sometimes i would miss it. I think i can remember now.
oh i have no idea how hoya is on 5x5, but you should definitely be able to get faster times. for big cubes i find that the concepts are so simple, that it's very easy to identify your weaknesses. either your look ahead isn't good enough (especially pauses while transitioning between steps, or just edge pairing in general), or you don't know a bunch of specific useful tricks. have you seen kevin hays's series tuesday tips?
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Wow, between filming and editing I can already see some horrible stuff I did during the example solve. Can you guys spot them?
J Perm no cuz u faster than me
no
A 2:47 there is a convenient way to make turn the T into a 3x2 using the 1x2 block, and it's possible to simultaneously knock the x centre out so that the 3x2 is clean with no 7th piece stuck to it.
For 3 cross edges I don't really know how to improve. I just got more efficient by experience. There are some patterns (especially 2 joined edges forming checkered patterns) that I have specific responses for, but these are better explained with video than with text
For last 4 centres/last cross edge, (This is not an improvement point, just personal preference) I prefer to solve all the centres first then do last cross edge. Solving the last cross edge first makes the 3rd centre very difficult with a lot of slice moves I have a system for solving the last cross edge (which will misalign the centres) and then inserting it without having to realign the centres. Then just proceed to freslice 4 edges on the U face.
At 4:46, I would have done U F' Lw' U2 Lw
(personal preference again, more of a method difference than a tip) unless I spot an obvious F2L pair, I would solve last 4 edges before starting F2L
pls do more
the first edge was ready to make but you didn't see it ;)
There's something about the sound (and feel) of turning a well lubed 5x5 that's just so damn satisfying to me for some reason.
YEAH i feel like the pitch gets a bit lower and it feels glidy
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The Tigers face tho 😂
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Just wanted to comment this because I'm a Yau user: For 5x5 I was using Yau from the beginning, and for 6x6 I made the switch when I started to stagnate with reduction. Yau is really good if you know that edges is your weak point. The cross edges are just generally easier than the first 4 edges in pure freeslice reduction, and majority of the solve has red (that is my cross colour) on the bottom without having to flip around. The second set of 4 edges are also extremely easy. I solve 6x6 centres + edges + cross with yau just as fast as centres + edges with reduction. That's equivalent to a cross skip and no cross-F2L transition, both of which are like giant wastes of time to me.
yeah i feel like compared to yau4 there's a much bigger advantage in yau5 regarding the cross edges. however i find that with 4x4 last 4 centers, you can easily preserve the cross efficiently by using slice moves instead of like R Rw' for example. on 5x5 i find it harder to do that, since the slice layers are smaller and harder to turn. often the centers just feel uncomfortable, but i wont know for sure if it's too bad until i get used to dealing with all the center cases with the yau5 restriction
I did try solving the last cross edge first a few times before but I didn't like how the 3rd centre turned out. I actually used the term "Yau4" to refer to a totally different context in a video series I used to upload, using the term to refer to solving of L4E before starting F2L, instead of solving the last cross edge after L4C. I used to upload a series titled "Yau in 5x5", where episode 1(mostly a comparison video) focuses on where my method differs from the mainstream Yau5. (Briefly mentioning the last cross edge, but most of it lies in the L4E) The 2/3 centres in episode 2 (more of a tutorial) is a fun thing I have been doing for years, it's like half centres on 4x4, but adapted slightly for 5x5. Subequently, it's just 2 minor tips and 1 unlisted example solve video.
At about 7 minutes where the mirror alg is on the opposite side, you could try 3Uw, flipping alg, 3Uw'
And this is and awesome series idea, I'm excited to watch your progress
Please do cross on left in future walkthroughs. It makes it easier for most people to follow along.
+Micah Owen Morrison Normally I try to do stuff like that but on big cubes it's like SUPER awkward to change that, and I end up.doing a bunch of things wrong. I'll try though and see how it goes
or if there's a way to mirror cross on right you could do that.
Practice makes perfect :)
Man I was expecting a tutorial but hey gotta appreciate this one must take a long time to record.
It would be really interesting to know how much time you spend practicing each week. i'm curious. :D
i dont practice every day. for 5x5, i do about 30 solves each day that i practice
@@JPerm 30 solves?!? I do less 3x3 solves a day.. My average is about 50 seconds tho😥
Wow nice solves
Reduction is the way to go, I thought I told you that at Whistler.
david armstrong? i wanted to try yau5 for a while, since switching to yau5 is harder than switching back to reduction.
Gr8 video! You taught me a lot on 5x5!! Thanks
what a good quality video
Can U Do More Reviews
And Critiques
And some Example Solves Like This(3x3,2x2,4x4 and 5x5)
And Some Fingertricks On Pll
I'm sub 1:50 with redux. Now I'm saving up for the Cosmic Wushuang M.
Jperms first video on 5x5 improvement makes me sad because he averages 2:00. I average 4:00
I love your videos, they are so good, I might use since it your told tips
+Cubing Maniac thanks!
I use hoya instead
Definitely a 10x10
Divided by 2
Yea! A fellow Yau 5 user.
For the flipping alg on the other side u do a rotation and do the alg
Nice! i don't know how to solve a 5x5 :(
Citruz did you learn?
@@altitudus7412 i did, but im really slow since i don't practice 5x5 at all
I really want a good/ decent 5x5
keeep thisupp
Feliks and Kevin Hays (world top 2) both use freeslice. Feliks said Mats Valk is using Yau and showing that it can be viable. Could be worth your time to see if freeslice feels better to you early on before you commit to an edge pairing style. Think this was in Feliks’ 5x5 example solves video, but could be on his “Cubeskills” RUclips channel. Highly suggest checking out his cube skills 5x5 videos too.
Btw love your content Jperm, keep up the great work
thanks! my idea is that yau5 would be harder to switch to than reduction, so im learning it first. reduction feels a lot cleaner if that makes sense, since there are fewer steps and the centers are a lot nicer. right now im a bit faster with yau5 but i might switch to reduction in the future. i actually learned yau5 from the cubeskills tutorials since it was the best non-video tutorial i could find (im impatient lol)
I find the alg sledge then insert a better way as far as finger tricks go to flip an edge
look at your solve, look like yau 5 is really fun to learn. Maybe i should switch to that
Can confirm it's super fun
it's far less fun than yau4 though. for 4x4 the harm of yau is slightly longer centers, but the benefit is crazy easy look ahead on last 8 edges (plus more efficient first 3 edges).
on 5x5 the harm of yau5 is also longer centers, but centers take longer in the first place and slice moves are much slower than on 4x4, so this is a bigger harm than on 4x4. the benefit is more efficient first 3 edges and slightly easier look ahead on last 8 edges. you dont get any really nice edge techniques like 3-2-3 edge pairing for 4x4, so it's not a huge advantage. that's why reduction vs yau5 kind of even out, and yau5 is a big more complicated to execute than yau4.
I'd say lookahead on reduction is extremely difficult immediately after centres since it is so hard to look around the entire cube as you finish up centres, which is one of the reasons why I find Yau5 so much more appealing than Reduction
you should this on 6x6 :0 I'm getting one on friday. I also didn't know they had yau for 5x5.
Dylan
how about do a critique on feliks? i bet you can spot those mistakes hehe
How I like the way the yuxin tiger sits
it looks like a lot of the time you are using slice moves when they are unnecessary. at 4:25 you used a wide slice move to make a bar where it would be much faster to do U Lw' U' Lw. I noticed this in some other places as well and avoiding slice moves will drop time by more that you think. :) (I average about 1:27 on 5x5)
+grapefruit95 oh yeah true, thanks! slice moves are fine on 4x4 so I kind of got used to it, but on 5x5 they suck haha.
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Faster than me Solving the 2x2 . Nice...
(Before you say watch my video i did)
Im having trouble having the mindset to make bars for the center, halp
Just practice.
*_WOWW YOU ARE SO FAST IN 5×5 😵😵😵 I DON'T EVEN HAVE A 5×5
+Ridzz Cuber wait a month I'll be way faster haha
J Perm haha👍😄😄
*_I hope and I wish you will be way, way faster_*
Yau5 ftw :)
In your latest video (as of now) you said to comment and like every one of you videos, so here I go
Welp…as soon as you get the CHANCE TO., could you put up a detailed tutorial please
J perm do you have tips for look-ahead edge pairing on 5x5? I tend to pause so much during my edge pairing because I have no clue where edges are
note that im relatively new to 5x5.
something that helps me but im not sure if faster 5x5 solvers do this: look for pieces within a specific group. whenever i do reduction instead of yau5, i find it really easy to find white edge pieces, so i tend to do those first, but i'll do other pieces if they happen to be in a nice case. another thing is for yau5, since all my white edges are solved then i try to focus on pairing non-yellow edges
Wow! You are awesome! Have you got any link for a GOOD yau5 method please? Thanks
im very impatient and i just wanted a steps breakdown of the method, so i looked here
www.cubeskills.com/uploads/pdf/tutorials/the-yau5-method.pdf
i havent seen a video tutorial, so i cant really recommend one
J Perm Thank you so much!
Actually, there is a Yau5 video tutorial on CubeSkills!
www.cubeskills.com/tutorials/the-yau5-method
nice!
What are your thoughts on using 'half centres' on 5x5, Jperm? Like constructing a 3x2 bar on one side of the cube for 3 of the last 4 centres, then using wide R or wide L moves to finish the last 4 centres?
Not worth it imo
cant say for sure because i've never tried it. i saw a video where jayden mcneill talked about doing a half centers sort of thing for just the outer centers, then the middle centers, then the other layer of outer centers. i actually stopped using half centers on 4x4 (i only use it in about 1/10 solves when the case is stupidly easy for half centers) and usually just go 1 center at a time because i find it easier to focus on 1 color at once. on 5x5 i'll have to try some half centers variant (1/3rd centers?) and see how it goes
What is the algorithm of the cube edges in making a blind fold cube slove?
Does J perm have Yau 5 tutorial because J perm has the best tutorials and all I know is reduction and at the comp I’m going to the cut off is 2 mins
Try the flipping alg from cyotheking R' F R F' R U' R' So that is sledge and insert amd that's regripless
4 yes
What cube do u use? And how much is it?? Is there a budget 5x5 u recommend?
Vinsu Kinto he left a link in the description.
Chad Derouchie oh.....was not attentive thanks
yeah cube links are usually in the description :)
and i have not tried budget 5x5s, most of the cubes i own were in the last unboxing haha if you're interested there's a full list of cubes in the description there
J Perm thanks
Yay
5:25 when I notice u could finish 2 edges already using a Dw'
i was thinking the same thing and i felt pain watching him do that instead.
nice, my pb is 3min something
Please do this for megaminx
is it just me or do most people spend a lot of their time looking for edge pairing peices
Where is the SM unboxing?
Can you do a tutorial for this cube?
So which method are you sticking with J Perm? Yau 5 or Reduction?
+Christian Kennedy yau5 for now
Oh ok. Nice! :)
J Perm, how long do you solve it now?
I average around 1:02
@@JPerm wow thats fast..
also i guessed your pb single right xD
Please do an Ao5 of Gans 356 air SM (request)
Do you will make a 5x5x5 tutorial?
I did!
should it be f4l in 5x5
+SummerTheCuber true, but it just complicates things when everyone knows what f2l means
understandable
Try out freeslice
i did, im slightly slower on it due to practicing yau5 only, but it might be better as far as i can tell right now
Is it just me or that I learned how to solve 5x5x5 the same way I learned 4x4x4¿
Me
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No offense but I think you are doing yau5 kind of weird. When you are solving your edges after your centers you should only solve 2 and they should be f2l pairs. I know Jayden Mcneil does all 4 f2l edges and then freestyle the l4e but I've never seen a yau5 solver do non f2l edges after centers. Maybe I've been doing it wrong the whole time cause I never really learned from a "tutorial" but it was just weird seeing that. It was like yauduction of something of that sort.
the only yau5 tutorial i saw was the one on cubeskills and just followed it, didn't know it was out of the ordinary. i'll check some other sources
No, that's incorrect Dylan. Yau5 is actually just reducing the cube into centers+cross edges done, and then l8e by doing 4 edges on top then l4e on the E slice. The 2 f2l pair thing is just an optional variant. You can choose to do l8e however you want. I got this info from Robert Yau himself
I see the ways now. I'm never right when it comes to anything anyways. Thanks for clearing that up
+Dylan Miller nah I don't know either, I've been told some people do yau5 differently, I thought the cubeskills tutorial was the main way but I was wrong too
Sub 1:30 in a month, I'm calling it
no sub-1:30 single yet :( but getting there haha
How tf did you do learn so fast
I should do Yau instead of my inefficient method i made up
what WAS THAT PLL
its amazing how your brain can remember complicated algorithms
What is the flipping algorithm you use?
+Adam Runninger R U R' F R' F' R which preserves the cross, but mirrored to the left
Can you do my critique
been doing 5x5 for about 7/8 months and my pb is 1:35 lol
Your pb is already 1:36 after a few days
+Leo Annett But I also am good at 3x3 and 4x4 already, which contributes a lot
The last 3x1 bar case at 4:49
You could have done an F to move the red corner center to the top right and done Rw U2 Rw' and inserted the bar instead of the inefficient way you used.
I am a bit faster than you at about 1:32 but I use Redux
Good point, thanks! I started using that in my solves a bit but wasn't sure exactly which case it applied to every time, so sometimes i would miss it. I think i can remember now.
Coool like if u agree
Did you still critique solve?
yeah but im more likely to remember if you send the link from facebook messenger
Woaj
not first
What timer do you use?
+Malcom Mack qqtimer.net or cstimer.net, both are good. usually qq for no particular reason
wow i cant improve at 5x5 at all for some reason
what do you average?
J Perm used to be sub 2:05 but in like 2:10 now
I use hoya
oh i have no idea how hoya is on 5x5, but you should definitely be able to get faster times. for big cubes i find that the concepts are so simple, that it's very easy to identify your weaknesses. either your look ahead isn't good enough (especially pauses while transitioning between steps, or just edge pairing in general), or you don't know a bunch of specific useful tricks. have you seen kevin hays's series tuesday tips?
Lol yau5 is bad but redux is worse just do the first 3 steps of yau and then freeslice edges
I hate j perm
I like j perm
You are bored af right?
Are u busy? Cause ur not replying my message in messenger
Just curious....
did you send a regular message or a critique? i put those into a separate folder and reply to them when i have time to look at them
I sent critique
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