Dammit that should’ve been my jointer. You got there before I did but congratulations on a great vibe. I ended up buying your old joint and I’m very very happy with it.. I am definitely going to look into the helical head for that jointer.. great channel. It’s awesome to see you gaining so many subscribers.
I just bought a jointer, cast-iron for 150 euro. Yes....i know!! also an 8 inch although we have metric, i think about 18 cm? Did not mesure it, just bought it. So this video came right on time. Thank you!
If I remember college physics correctly, a change of 10dB is actually a 10x change in sound intensity. That's actually a pretty big deal. Thanks for the video.
Thanks Donald. I would say though that going from 105 to 95db (when wood is in contact with blades) while it is a decent change 95db is still way too loud to be using it without hearing protection. So that’s why to me the reduction isn’t a big thing because it didn’t eliminate the hearing protection.
Oh, yes, totally agree. Great to get a 10dB reduction. But anything over 80dB still requires excellent hearing protection. We're totally aligned. Cheers!
Nice video on the subject. I wish I could source 4 inch helical jointer heads someplace. I have a vintage late 1960s 4" Rockwell cabinet makers jointer I inherited. Yes, it is small, but fits my needs rather nicely and I have no use for a larger one... but... I would love to upgrade the head. I also have a 1940s 4" jointer that belonged to my grandfather, who was a master cabinet maker at Kittinger Furniture here in Buffalo NY back in the day. I'll never part with or upgrade that machine... he used it to make furniture that currently sits in the White House. His specialty was inlay. :)
Wow that is very cool! I understand why you never wanna part with it! You might want to email Elephas, they do custom manufactures. Of course I’m not sure what it would cost but hey worth an email right. www.elephantblade.com.tw
Great video. Nice job editing and voice over. Only thing that I question is the torque on the cutter. I heard 55 FtLb and I think you meant InLb.. I just finished installing a Shelix in my 6" Craftsman and it was 45 InLb. Great buy at $600. Enjoyed the install
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Hint: Cut the stock belts and replace them with segmented belts. The machine will run much smoother. The stock belts have set to them which has to be overcome ever tile the belt makes a circuit. The segmented belts don’t have the set, and you install them by making it two links too short, and then rolling the belt onto the pulleys. No need to loosen the motor.
I have their Amazon store linked in the description for the video. This specific one was $383 currently, for 6 inch it’s 335. A pack of 10 replacement carbide heads is 37. Just remember with the carbide heads that you can rotate them three times before you need to replace them. Carbide will stay sharp or longer, but you cannot resharpen these.
Thanks for the video, I just bought a similar head for my 6" Jet Jointer and am glad to get some instructions. Did you come up with a novel way to keep from losing the nut and washer that hold the cutter head to the jointer?
😂 holding my breath as I did it! Yea that’s a bad place to drop those. I actually had a problem with one of them as the nut wouldn’t let go, it spun, the actual double threaded rod instead. And there’s not enough clearance for that to work so I had to crank it back down again loosen the nut and then fit some needle nose pliers in there to hold the shaft. Not fun.
Great video and good info included! Do you think the increase in force needed to push the wood through was due to that blade head specifically? Would a different cutter head work better?
Definitely not because of that specific head, all of these style heads, it’s noted that it becomes harder to push wood through because at every single incident there is always a cutter head, touching the wood, unlike the big straight blade ones where there’s a big gap between the blades so it gives you that millisecond for the word progress forward
Great Video... Did you order the 8" one that is listed on their Amazon page or did you have to custom order it somehow? I know from looking at other brands that they talk about differences in shaft size depending on when it was made. I have a G1018, and I am not sure if that is the same model as yours. Thank You.
Thanks! The one on Amazon, good thing there is, if there did happen to be some sort of issue it’s easy to just return it right away. The company does make custom orders, however, I’m not sure how much that would be.
Justin, do you run the jointer on a 110v/15a circuit? I've read that the denser the cutter spacing, the greater the amp draw. Also, I've got and recommend the Wahuda 10" benchtop jointer, which has been fabulous in my smaller workspace. It has an insert cutterhead, with a few fewer inserts, and of course a shorter bed (though with extensions). Good company support too. $650 shipped. Thanks for the excellent discussion in your video.
Thanks ry! Yea I turned it down from the 220 to 110 for now since I didn’t have the circuit space. On the head that’s why I went with a 4 row instead of a 6 row blade head thinking I wouldn’t have enough juice for it. I did have to unplug it at one point from the retractable ceiling plug as that units breaker would trip and put it to a heavy dedicated outlet. I’m looking to upgrade the shop to a mini split for heat and air so this will free up some breaker space taking off my old appliance’s then I can run a 220 for the jointer and saw. I’ll make sure to see if there is a difference then and do an update
@@BitnerBuilt That will be interesting. My 1.5hp contractor saw is on 220, which I think helps it. So is my 1.5hp dust collector, likely unnecessary. Wahuda jointer & old Delta planer are 110v without any problems. Never had a breaker flip.
@@RYwoodview it wasn’t the breaker that flipped, it was the built in breaker on the retracting extensions reel I have mounted to the ceiling (more sensitive than a main breaker)
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Correction, you did not hammer on the bearings you installed them using a swing press. 🤣 On a serious side, I hope in the future to see more of the quality of cut this head can provide on a wide variety of different wood species.
Lol yes, when in the moment filming sometimes my brain goes duuuuhhhhh. I called the bearing a pulley at one point too 😂 will do I will post an update after I have used it for a while
Nobody is actually making a spiral head. A spiral is two dimensional. A helix is three dimensional. By the way - all those spiral staircases? They're helical staircases.
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Dammit that should’ve been my jointer. You got there before I did but congratulations on a great vibe. I ended up buying your old joint and I’m very very happy with it.. I am definitely going to look into the helical head for that jointer.. great channel. It’s awesome to see you gaining so many subscribers.
I’m sure I’ll be getting another to test out at some point so you never know you might get ahold of it at some point!
Great find!
Thanks!
I just bought a jointer, cast-iron for 150 euro. Yes....i know!! also an 8 inch although we have metric, i think about 18 cm? Did not mesure it, just bought it. So this video came right on time. Thank you!
Oh that’s a fantastic grab! Lucky you! Have fun with it!
Nice video, nice channel. Thanks
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If I remember college physics correctly, a change of 10dB is actually a 10x change in sound intensity. That's actually a pretty big deal. Thanks for the video.
Thanks Donald. I would say though that going from 105 to 95db (when wood is in contact with blades) while it is a decent change 95db is still way too loud to be using it without hearing protection. So that’s why to me the reduction isn’t a big thing because it didn’t eliminate the hearing protection.
Oh, yes, totally agree. Great to get a 10dB reduction. But anything over 80dB still requires excellent hearing protection. We're totally aligned. Cheers!
Nice video on the subject. I wish I could source 4 inch helical jointer heads someplace. I have a vintage late 1960s 4" Rockwell cabinet makers jointer I inherited. Yes, it is small, but fits my needs rather nicely and I have no use for a larger one... but... I would love to upgrade the head.
I also have a 1940s 4" jointer that belonged to my grandfather, who was a master cabinet maker at Kittinger Furniture here in Buffalo NY back in the day. I'll never part with or upgrade that machine... he used it to make furniture that currently sits in the White House. His specialty was inlay. :)
Wow that is very cool! I understand why you never wanna part with it! You might want to email Elephas, they do custom manufactures. Of course I’m not sure what it would cost but hey worth an email right. www.elephantblade.com.tw
Great video. Nice job editing and voice over. Only thing that I question is the torque on the cutter. I heard 55 FtLb and I think you meant InLb.. I just finished installing a Shelix in my 6" Craftsman and it was 45 InLb. Great buy at $600. Enjoyed the install
Ah yes inch pounds, glad you enjoyed it!
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Great video… A great inexpensive simple addition would have been to replace the old belts with new segmented belts
Ah very good tip! Definitely the time to do something like that is when you have it apart already!
Hint: Cut the stock belts and replace them with segmented belts. The machine will run much smoother. The stock belts have set to them which has to be overcome ever tile the belt makes a circuit. The segmented belts don’t have the set, and you install them by making it two links too short, and then rolling the belt onto the pulleys. No need to loosen the motor.
Thanks for the tip!
Can you say what the new cutter head cost? Also, what do they charge for individual cutters?
I have their Amazon store linked in the description for the video. This specific one was $383 currently, for 6 inch it’s 335. A pack of 10 replacement carbide heads is 37. Just remember with the carbide heads that you can rotate them three times before you need to replace them. Carbide will stay sharp or longer, but you cannot resharpen these.
Thanks for the video, I just bought a similar head for my 6" Jet Jointer and am glad to get some instructions. Did you come up with a novel way to keep from losing the nut and washer that hold the cutter head to the jointer?
😂 holding my breath as I did it! Yea that’s a bad place to drop those. I actually had a problem with one of them as the nut wouldn’t let go, it spun, the actual double threaded rod instead. And there’s not enough clearance for that to work so I had to crank it back down again loosen the nut and then fit some needle nose pliers in there to hold the shaft. Not fun.
Great video and good info included!
Do you think the increase in force needed to push the wood through was due to that blade head specifically? Would a different cutter head work better?
Definitely not because of that specific head, all of these style heads, it’s noted that it becomes harder to push wood through because at every single incident there is always a cutter head, touching the wood, unlike the big straight blade ones where there’s a big gap between the blades so it gives you that millisecond for the word progress forward
@@BitnerBuilt that makes complete sense. Thanks for the explanation!
Great Video... Did you order the 8" one that is listed on their Amazon page or did you have to custom order it somehow? I know from looking at other brands that they talk about differences in shaft size depending on when it was made. I have a G1018, and I am not sure if that is the same model as yours. Thank You.
Thanks! The one on Amazon, good thing there is, if there did happen to be some sort of issue it’s easy to just return it right away. The company does make custom orders, however, I’m not sure how much that would be.
Justin, do you run the jointer on a 110v/15a circuit? I've read that the denser the cutter spacing, the greater the amp draw.
Also, I've got and recommend the Wahuda 10" benchtop jointer, which has been fabulous in my smaller workspace. It has an insert cutterhead, with a few fewer inserts, and of course a shorter bed (though with extensions). Good company support too. $650 shipped.
Thanks for the excellent discussion in your video.
Thanks ry! Yea I turned it down from the 220 to 110 for now since I didn’t have the circuit space. On the head that’s why I went with a 4 row instead of a 6 row blade head thinking I wouldn’t have enough juice for it. I did have to unplug it at one point from the retractable ceiling plug as that units breaker would trip and put it to a heavy dedicated outlet. I’m looking to upgrade the shop to a mini split for heat and air so this will free up some breaker space taking off my old appliance’s then I can run a 220 for the jointer and saw. I’ll make sure to see if there is a difference then and do an update
@@BitnerBuilt That will be interesting. My 1.5hp contractor saw is on 220, which I think helps it. So is my 1.5hp dust collector, likely unnecessary. Wahuda jointer & old Delta planer are 110v without any problems. Never had a breaker flip.
@@RYwoodview it wasn’t the breaker that flipped, it was the built in breaker on the retracting extensions reel I have mounted to the ceiling (more sensitive than a main breaker)
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Unfortunately that code doesn’t work for Australians and with the exchange rate and shipping it doesn’t make it feasible $720 aud approximately
Sorry wish it did!
Correction, you did not hammer on the bearings you installed them using a swing press. 🤣 On a serious side, I hope in the future to see more of the quality of cut this head can provide on a wide variety of different wood species.
Lol yes, when in the moment filming sometimes my brain goes duuuuhhhhh. I called the bearing a pulley at one point too 😂 will do I will post an update after I have used it for a while
And mathematically, a helix is a 3D object, and a spiral is a 2d object.
Well, in the capacity they’re all talking about it, it’s all marketing 😂
Nobody is actually making a spiral head. A spiral is two dimensional. A helix is three dimensional. By the way - all those spiral staircases? They're helical staircases.
It’s all marketing
Maybe, but it would be helpful if people knew the definitions of the words they were using.@@BitnerBuilt