What Really Happened with the Substation Attack in North Carolina?

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  • Опубликовано: 25 ноя 2024

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  • @PracticalEngineeringChannel
    @PracticalEngineeringChannel  Год назад +262

    📺Watch your favorite creators ad-free on Nebula: go.nebula.tv/practical-engineering
    📚What do you think? Are you willing to pay higher rates for increased physical security, or are you okay with the risk of a few outages to get cheaper electricity?
    😷Sorry I sound a little stuffy in this one! Wanting to get this out as possible meant having to shoot with a cold before everyone left for the holidays.

    • @softsofasoftsofa
      @softsofasoftsofa Год назад +18

      Civilization seems to be in a declining phase, so paying for addition security would be prudent.

    • @imag0r
      @imag0r Год назад +9

      You sure about Nebula though? That link lists it under the premium plans, not the $15 standard one.

    • @John_Smith_86
      @John_Smith_86 Год назад +6

      Why isn't the transformers manufactured on a standardised spec to reduce cost and increase interchangeability?

    • @heidirabenau511
      @heidirabenau511 Год назад +1

      @@imag0r I am pretty sure that it links to Curiosity Stream.

    • @yodouri6575
      @yodouri6575 Год назад +15

      You need to apologize for terror-washing. Investigators linked what happened here to the western board substation attacks and they're *not* struggling to call it terrorism. They ARE calling it terrorism.
      The "proud boys" had a plan to do this and low & behold, it happened. Just them too. Not a bunch of mixed groups, just them. So you need to apologize because you insulted the intelligence of a lot of people with this one. We already know what this was.
      In fact you've got to be purposeful to be covering up their actions as a mystery.
      Highly inappropriate

  • @htxmatt1206
    @htxmatt1206 Год назад +1149

    Someone I know worked on putting these 2 subsations back online , pretty much everything in this video is correct and actually happened. The other mess he told me about was the sewage treatment plant backing up and causing their pumps to trip off and he had to wade through raw sewage to fix the jammed up pumps. Props to the electrical engineers and all the hard workers that fixed this mess in a couple of days

    • @TheCastedone
      @TheCastedone Год назад +44

      Electrical engineers got their hands dirty?!

    • @norbertnagy5514
      @norbertnagy5514 Год назад +4

      @@TheCastedone ?

    • @JeffS96
      @JeffS96 Год назад +83

      @@norbertnagy5514 it's a joke that electrical engineers are very hands off in practicing their craft. Really any engineer will get a bit of ribbing from a lot of tradespeople because even if you do get in the field and get your hands dirty, you also spend a fair amount of time sitting at a desk. At the end of the day it's just banter.

    • @canyonoverland5003
      @canyonoverland5003 Год назад +73

      A buddy of mine works at a local sewage treatment plant. One of his jobs is to clean out the digestors when they get clogged by people flushing junk down the toilet. He gets dressed up in an old fashioned diver's suit with a brass helmet and oxygen hose and his descends into the goop. When he emerges a little later, he's covered in hypodermic needles and tampon applicators and someone has to carefully remove everything before he can remove his suit.

    • @norbertnagy5514
      @norbertnagy5514 Год назад +12

      @@JeffS96 i understand now thx.

  • @dr.kraemer
    @dr.kraemer Год назад +7315

    Grady quietly dragging the shooter for reading the grid diagram wrong is low-key hilarious.

    • @AUTgriesbrei
      @AUTgriesbrei Год назад +220

      I would guess they just looked at the powerlines

    • @KnowledgePerformance7
      @KnowledgePerformance7 Год назад +231

      @@AUTgriesbrei then they would of known it was not a connection to the 230KV line

    • @pyropulseIXXI
      @pyropulseIXXI Год назад +83

      Could’ve just done that to be safe that it would take that area out. Better safe than sorry, as they say

    • @dr.kraemer
      @dr.kraemer Год назад +118

      @@pyropulseIXXI you keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

    • @nikiryan8648
      @nikiryan8648 Год назад +7

      @@dr.kraemer bol

  • @mikefochtman7164
    @mikefochtman7164 Год назад +1408

    At a power plant where I worked, the main output transformers were tested every outage. When testing showed they were nearing their end of life, replacements were ordered. Built and shipped from overseas, took over a year to get them. When one started developing further issues, we had to derate (reduce output about 50%) until the replacements arrived and could be installed. These monsters are pretty much custom and built-to-order.

    • @brianhirt5027
      @brianhirt5027 Год назад +147

      It's a major weakness these terrorists are aware of. They know if they hit enough of them they'll overwhelm our replacement ability in short order. Its being actively discussed among the groups being monitored. Just a FYI.

    • @LeviathantheMighty
      @LeviathantheMighty Год назад +92

      Overseas?
      That's awful. They should be produced here.

    • @Gengh13
      @Gengh13 Год назад +27

      Out of curiosity what do you measure to determine it is near their EOL? Leakage for degradation of the isolation?

    • @959_MC
      @959_MC Год назад +68

      @@LeviathantheMightybeing built overseas likely had very little to do with the time, and getting the equipment to manufacture them here would either have no impact, or a negative impact on time to produce.

    • @veramae4098
      @veramae4098 Год назад +104

      Overseas. Yeah. Lower costs, lower pay and benefits for the employees.
      Vital construction should be "in country".

  • @cameronallen5043
    @cameronallen5043 Год назад +166

    I’m a Duke employee and my dad and brother are too. They both worked this outage. I was pleasantly surprised that everything you said in this video was 100% accurate

    • @jonslg240
      @jonslg240 Год назад +4

      Someone (or several someones) shot up electrical equipment at a substation in California too several years ago, exact same MO as this attack

    • @thelugoffgamecock792
      @thelugoffgamecock792 Год назад +3

      ​@jonslg240 someone? Just like that huh, drink a 12 pack and grab a rifle lookin fer some fun......couldn't possibly be a state actor? Nooooo way

    • @AV84USA
      @AV84USA 10 месяцев назад +10

      @@thelugoffgamecock792why do some people never miss an opportunity to show everyone who they are?

    • @soulslip
      @soulslip 6 месяцев назад

      @@thelugoffgamecock792🤦‍♂️wow the conspiracies are strong with this one.... they sound.... well like the sort of people I would expect to do such a terroristic act as this.... psychos

  • @krmould
    @krmould Год назад +1393

    When I did my military engineering training, we had a special course on "Urban Denial." The basic concept was how to make a large urban center uninhabitable. We had experts from the electric companies, water and sewer departments of the local city, and the natural gas company come to speak to us. They walked us through step-by-step how to shut down electricity, water and sewer, and gas in a modern city. If you have inside knowledge, this is disturbingly simple. The key is to attack items that are crucial to the system but hard to repair or replace (like the transformers in the video above). The electrical expert said, with a single box of TNT, he could disable electricity to the entire city in an hour or two. Power is one thing, but if you cut off water, sewer and heat too, things get very bad very fast. Most key services (hospitals, police, fire) have generator backups, but they usually only have a week or so of fuel. They can be resupplied, but millions of people can't be. Look at what happened in 2003, a software bug caused a cascade failure that knocked out power across multiple states in north-east USA and Ontario, Canada leaving millions without power. That only lasted a few hours. Now, multiply that chaos by weeks or even months. I am pleased to see Grady bringing this risk to people's attention. You need to be prepared to take care of yourself and your family in the event of an emergency. Everyone should be prepared for at least 72 hours with no outside assistance. If you are able, you should consider extending that to 2 - 3 weeks. Camping gear (camp stove, lanterns, sleeping bags) and preserved food are a good start.

    • @jakedee4117
      @jakedee4117 Год назад +167

      It's happening right now in Ukraine. Suicide drones/loitering munitions hit transformers and other key nodes at a rate that will be impossible to repair without enormous time resources and effort

    • @hammyh1165
      @hammyh1165 Год назад +68

      I know of a transformer station in my country that if attacked would knock out power for millions and is in such a place it's power distribution can't be replaced.
      It is heavily fortified including lethal electric fencing which is unheard of where I live , military and government installations don't even have this protection.

    • @Name-nw9uj
      @Name-nw9uj Год назад +29

      You posses extremely dangerous knowledge.

    • @Flack55
      @Flack55 Год назад

      @Peters6221 I don't believe in coincidences for the most part, so I'd say it's definitely related. The way the "authorities" are being so tight-liped about it also stinks of something more. The idea of someone disgruntled is just too simple when you look at all the other implications of the attack- Special Operations military base, renowned golf course and housing community for the elite... this was either a test, or a distraction for something else. Theft? Data breach? Something... I mean hell, the "authorities" STILL don't know who, how and when the anthrax was stolen from the US Army's obscure chemical & biological weapons "research" facility in MD back in the 90s... you know the same anthrax that was being mailed to a bunch of important people around the country. Weird times and getting weirder...

    • @Motorman2112
      @Motorman2112 Год назад +35

      What's the military application for making a city uninhabitable?

  • @Nosoupferyou
    @Nosoupferyou Год назад +871

    Hi Grady! I am a substation engineer, and I've specifically worked on designing substation security in the past. It is true that ballistic barriers are becoming more common, however they are very expensive. This is because the massive height requirement of the walls themselves. When you are considering protection from firearms, you must do a line of sight calculation from the highest advantage point available. Do some basic trig, and there can easily be 40-50ft high walls to protect some of the bigger transformers in higher kV substations!

    • @12101DyM
      @12101DyM Год назад +30

      Why don't they bury substations?

    • @vylbird8014
      @vylbird8014 Год назад +99

      @@12101DyM Cost. Same reason pylons are favored over buried cables except in built-up areas: Digging big holes is expensive.

    • @pierregravel-primeau702
      @pierregravel-primeau702 Год назад +33

      @@12101DyM Then you would also need costly mecanical ventilation plus tons of permit to dig, plus tons of permits to dispose of the contaminated dirt and how many sub station is required ?

    • @Eternal_Tech
      @Eternal_Tech Год назад +24

      What about constructing a building around the substation, similar to how a landline telephone company has a "central office?"

    • @buddyclem7328
      @buddyclem7328 Год назад +22

      @@Eternal_Tech There is such a building in Charleston, WV, but I'm not sure if it was to protect the substation, or so it wouldn't look so ugly in a busy part of town. It's concrete and red brick, and it has heavy wooden doors.

  • @cmdr1911
    @cmdr1911 Год назад +747

    I work as a consulting PM for a major utility. For the last year I have been managing security projects to harden sub stations. Some stations are pretty much fortresses while others are lightly protected. That is quickly changing, they can track ballistics and drones.
    Also my latest material lead times say transformers are in excess of 60 week lead times from transmission transformers

    • @cnnpp4428
      @cnnpp4428 Год назад +1

      @@tribalismblindsthembutnoty124 turn everything off and it will be fine

    • @nikkiofthevalley
      @nikkiofthevalley Год назад

      @@tribalismblindsthembutnoty124 Basically nothing against a powerful CME, it would basically send humanity to the dark ages. An EMP would probably take out a lot, but it wouldn't be as completely catastrophic as a CME. In the event of a EMP generated by a nuke, I think the fallout is a lot more of a concern than the EMP.

    • @davidakariverman-astorytel644
      @davidakariverman-astorytel644 Год назад +9

      Such a mean-spirited attack; I cannot guess the motivations for it. My grandfather spent a lifetime in power distribution.

    • @Kiyoone
      @Kiyoone Год назад +5

      Solar storms.... Earth weakening magnetic field....

    • @monophoto1
      @monophoto1 Год назад +13

      @@nikkiofthevalley Not sure I agree. CME is generally predicable, and utilities have standard operating measures they take to prevent events from causing damage. And there are also mitigation steps that can be included in transmission infrastructure design.

  • @coop5329
    @coop5329 Год назад +251

    Thirty years ago I worked for a company that built and repaired transformers, especially the massive ones. Each one is unique, and they are not built by automated machines, both the coils and the stacks are made by hand with mechanical assists; these are skilled and time consuming jobs. The big ones are not something that can be replaced in a month, let alone in days, plus they require special transportation just to move them due to size. And Grady is right, there are no replacements sitting around in storage anywhere to be swapped in if something like this happens on a larger scale.

    • @Eyes0penNoFear
      @Eyes0penNoFear Год назад +11

      How well are they hardened against EMP? If the Carrington event happened again would it destroy the grid?

    • @modquad18
      @modquad18 Год назад +8

      Well that’s yet another example of bone-headed engineering. What a cluster.

    • @1Maklak
      @1Maklak Год назад +23

      Why are they unique, though? It stands to reason that thousands of them are needed and they do roughly the same thing (converting from a standardized high voltage to standardized lower voltage), so it should be possible to settle on a few sizes for different power requirements and have standardised designs.

    • @modquad18
      @modquad18 Год назад +4

      @@1Maklak Exactly. Doing it any other way is the absolute height of stupidity.

    • @orppranator5230
      @orppranator5230 Год назад +30

      @@1Maklak They are unique because setting up a production line where thousands are produced every day, the way cars are made, doesn’t make sense because you don’t need to make that many.
      They are huge and complex structures, with a small but very critical market, and as such it makes more financial sense to have engineers make the transformers themselves, instead of making the many machines required to automate the making of transformers.
      In addition, they may do the same thing but they can have wildly different loads required. The transformer in a power station for NYC deals with wildly different electrical loads than that of London, Kentucky.

  • @skenzyme81
    @skenzyme81 Год назад +1463

    Substations are vulnerable, but high voltage transmission line towers in remote locations are completely indefensible.

    • @paulelderson934
      @paulelderson934 Год назад +254

      They are, but they're also pretty sturdy. It would take a fair amount of explosives to topple one and it would be quite difficult not to draw attention. You'd also need to get away far enough that you won't be enclosed by a lockdown of the area.
      Then you probably also need to hit the second part of the loop which is going to be hundreds of miles away. Quite difficult to organize and likely impossible to do yourself.
      The repairs will most definitely be costly, but the parts for it are standardized and the hotfix will likely be relatively quick.
      If I was thinking like someone that wants to do the most damage with the highest emotional impact at the least amount of risk, I wouldn't really see it as a top tier option.

    • @monophoto1
      @monophoto1 Год назад +96

      True, but overhead transmission lines are exposed to weather, and that presents a more frequent risk. So the transmission grid must be designed to withstand the loss of individual lines.

    • @contraband1543
      @contraband1543 Год назад +120

      @@paulelderson934 lol you could take down a 700kv tower with less than $100 of tannerite

    • @besacciaesteban
      @besacciaesteban Год назад +58

      @@paulelderson934 it could be that the sabotaging equipment is set to fire off a couple days after installation. It's highly unilkeliy for someone to be around to find it and alert the police.

    • @Kenionatus
      @Kenionatus Год назад +40

      @@besacciaesteban It's especially unlikely to be noticed if it doesn't look like a homebrew device and instead could be confused with something the provider could add themselves by a lay person.

  • @bstephens4801
    @bstephens4801 Год назад +248

    Any 230KV transformer requires about 5-7 days period to bowser (multiple vacuum pulldowns, vacuum fill the oil from the bottom up, heat the oil, circulate the oil through water separation filtration). There is careful testing done to assure moisture levels are safe for energization. Once the envelope is penetrated by moist ambient air, there is no recourse. You have to perform this process. This time doesn't include draw down of the remaining oil, repair of the radiators, etc. Typically, the radiators can be repaired by welding. Also, utilities used to keep wooden pegs to drive into the holes to 1) stop leaking and 2) possibly prevent tripping, 3)refill oil if the envelope still has a nitrogen blanket. The low oil tripping schemes are pretty high up in the tank. The float will go to the alarm level first and then trip afterwards. The goal is to trip before any sensitive components are above the oil. I have first hand experience with this type failure (low tank leaks) and generally there is a small vacuum formed by the escaping oil and it does leak but not at a tremendous rate. Probably the worst of the leak is due to the flow rate of the nitrogen regulator trying to maintain the blanket. So it takes a while for the transformer to go into alarm and then trip. Luckily all of this happens before serious damage is done. If the radiators are penetrated in a way that damages multiple layers, those have to be removed, cut apart, repaired and rewelded/layered to a full assembly. That takes a while. Many utilities have a full repair facility for power equipment and that would be done there and returned to the substation. In some cases, it might be possible to get spare radiators from other transformers. For instance, the 230/115KV Autobank(s) in a substation could have all good radiators put on one transformer if they are in fact the same dimensions and mounts. Also, radiators could be removed, the flanges blocked off and operate the transformer at reduced load until scheduled repairs can occur. In a situation like this, you do whatever you have to to get the lights on.
    That location is unusual with a looped 115 system and no alternate feeds. Generally there is a large 115 network and 230 network with multiple dispersed 230/115 locations where those networks tie.
    A side note these 230/115 autotransformers also play an important role as a ground current source. A ground fault on the 115kv will be seen as a 3 phase event on the 230kv network due to the closed delta tertiary windings. This allows the generators and 230kv system & up to function as a three phase source for any 115kv problems. A useful feature, it works the same way in either direction.
    Another note, the low oil tripping systems are usually hardwired. No operator intervention required. The nature of these gauges, microswitches and the fact that the transformer is a grounding source plays into the design of the system. Most use a blocking method where the tripping coil is shorted by one contact which must open before the contact that makes causes the coil to operate. So a contact must part and one must make for the trip to occur. There is usually a current limiting resistor in there in case both contact are made at the same time. It is pretty hard to have a misop of that system unless you are doing maintenance on the indicator and forget to block it. Yep, it happens. It's not hard for everyone to 'know your name'.

    • @fensoxx
      @fensoxx Год назад +11

      Thank you for that. Very interesting and tidbits someone like myself not in the field would never know but love to learn. 🍻

    • @gigaWUTT
      @gigaWUTT Год назад +13

      I thought it was super odd that they have 115kV acting as a sub-transmission grid. What I am thinking is that the 115kV was existing, then built out 230kV when they had the load pocket grow, and just converted the 115kV to a de facto sub transmission loop. Would somewhat explain the fly by at the Carthage station as they would have built out one side of the ROW with 230 while the 115 was either far enough away or under something like daily outages, then cutover the 115 to the 230 station at West End.

    • @bstephens4801
      @bstephens4801 Год назад +22

      @@fensoxx No problem. 230kv and higher transformers require a lot of time to prep for energization. I thought it was important to express what the utility was up against. The transformers may have had a good blanket, no way to know w/o being there. With the investment involved they would and should be conservative and assume water contamination no matter. Believe me, no utility wants customers offline. Kudos to the utility for working through this mess.

    • @thecloneguyz
      @thecloneguyz Год назад +18

      I don't understand electricity that much but I was growing marijuana about 15 years ago oh, and I had all 120-volt ballast running throughout the house in the power bill was like 2500 bucks a month
      My buddy told me I could cut my power bill in half if I switch to 240-volt ballast and daisy- chained them to each other and he said Each one that had extra power would just give it to the next one and they would run super-efficient like that- He was RIGHT. MY BILL DROPOED ABOUT 48% IMMEDIATELY
      Long story short one day the power went out and I heard a loud explosion outside,
      The power guy showed up at my house
      Said
      "YOU GOT 2 CHOICES"
      1- YOU CUT ME A CHECK RIGHT NOW FOR $5800 CASH TO REPLACE THE TRANSFORMER
      2- WE CALL OUR INVESTIGATION UNIT OUT TO FIND OUT 'WHY IT BLEW'??????
      Needless to say I grabbed my checkbook and disconnected 32lights
      (Leaving 46 connected - around 188amps total)

    • @bstephens4801
      @bstephens4801 Год назад +12

      @@gigaWUTT Ya know, I need to watch it again but that looked like a 230 to distribution level voltage (15kv or 27kv) class Mobile unit. It is very common to install those temporary out on a right away and tie into the 230 and one or more distribution feeders or the original distribution low side bus. I would be floored to find out any utility had a 230/115 mobile solution. Those can't be shipped with the bushings installed due to height. Refer back to the processing time to place bushings and fill with oil. Also, those Autobanks are very heavy dressed. Typically shipped on rail stripped down (as the frame of the car with wheels applied to the tank). They can be shipped by truck but it is one of those huge things with crazy numbers of wheels that all steer. It is possible to backfeed the 115 by going 230/12kv then 12kv to 230 with another mobile. That's not much of a source though. Impedance would be high. They also have to deal with the delta highside of the step up transformer being w/o reference. This usually requires Vo relaying to protect the line from a downed or grounded conductor. A mess at 230kv but capacitive bushing taps is the way I have seen that done. Wire them in an ungrounded wye and connect the voltage relay between that wye and system ground/neutral. I have done that very thing with a 115/12 and 12/46 kv mobile unit to keep a radial 46 kv system energized during a planned outage. Certainly an easier feat when the components are large enough to manage the entire load. No way that was possible in this case. they maybe could have picked up a little load elsewhere but that line would have been w/o typical distance protection and most utilities will not hedge that bet due to liability. From my experience I was noodling all sorts of tricks and fixes but it is very hard to manage a forced outage on an isolated network. the utility had their hands full.

  • @tonythomas951
    @tonythomas951 Год назад +381

    WOW Ive been an electrician for 40yrs and Ive never seen a mobile substation. That was impressive.

    • @eligebrown8998
      @eligebrown8998 Год назад +27

      I've been all over the country driving truck and I've never seen one either. I think I might try building a model. Looks cool.

    • @h8GW
      @h8GW Год назад +10

      Sounds like a motive. Real sus.

    • @whibby
      @whibby Год назад +7

      @@eligebrown8998 a model would be awesome

    • @johncford3957
      @johncford3957 Год назад +18

      Here in Ontario they have several , they are used when it's necessary to upgrade or renovate electrical substations. The person who damaged this small substation is a terrorist, especially since they knew what they were doing.

    • @danfromga9696
      @danfromga9696 Год назад +4

      I built a temp line for a sub crew to rebuild part of a station. Their mobile was awesome i have pictures of it still if anyone would like to see.

  • @technick6418
    @technick6418 Год назад +132

    I live in Richmond County, which is the next county to the south of Moore. These outages are always especially dangerous to those residents who rely on electrical power for life-sustaining medical equipment. For anyone who is reliant on electrical power to remain healthy, take the time to invest in a backup generator of sufficient capacity to power your medical equipment. Keep at least 5 gallons of clean fuel on hand at all times, treat this fuel with stabilizer, and become proficient at starting and properly setting up your generator. Letting the engine run for at least 15 minutes once a month will help to prevent stale fuel from gumming up the carburetor, and ensures the engine will start and run when it is needed. Yes, I practice this method I preach at home myself, albeit with an old Navy surplus carburetor-less diesel generator
    I work for a local small engine repair shop, and tried to help as much as possible by expediting repairs to everyone's portable generators who lived in Moore Country when this happened. I appreciate the coverage of this vandalism, and hope such events don't become a new trend. Power outages are an inconvenience during the best weather, but can quickly turn deadly during periods of extreme heat or cold.

    • @guycashmore7318
      @guycashmore7318 Год назад +8

      Propane is a fantastic fuel for backup generators because it stores forever, no issues with gummed up carburettors etc.

    • @timengineman2nd714
      @timengineman2nd714 Год назад +2

      As a former Diesel Generator operator &. mechanic, if you use Oil Heating I recommend getting a diesel generator that will run on #2 Fuel Oil (which is a "kissing cousin" to winterized #2 Diesel fuel. Basically you have a large tank of fuel that will last you through even a major disaster!

    • @mattcat65
      @mattcat65 Год назад +2

      ​@@timengineman2nd714An absolutely terrific idea! And don't neglect to upgrade your fuel oil storage capacity to make sure you have ample #2 oil on hand to run both the furnace and the generator!

    • @SnapJack-kd6kk
      @SnapJack-kd6kk 2 месяца назад

      Batteries and solar are the real alternatives.

  • @chironchangnoi
    @chironchangnoi Год назад +165

    When I was a radio tech in the late 90's, I got called out to a remote repeater site and discovered that someone had shot the air conditioning unit, which completely shut down the site. Just a small building with several radios in it but when the cooling system stops working, the radios must shut down or overheat. This one was mostly commercial systems but the same vulnerability exists in public service and emergency communications systems. Thanks for all your great videos!

    • @borkborkfoxxo279
      @borkborkfoxxo279 Год назад

      Fortunately every state is on digitally trunked mesh systems. Much more resilient than the old analog systems.

    • @WyvernYT
      @WyvernYT Год назад +6

      @@borkborkfoxxo279 You're going to hear from a number of people about this, but I'll get in first and let you know that, if you like, you have a lot of educational reading ahead of you.

    • @PrograError
      @PrograError Год назад +6

      @@borkborkfoxxo279 digital doesn't meant it's less vulnerable... Just not at the same areas as analog tech.
      The house of cards is the same even if the card materials are different; everything falls just the same.

    • @borkborkfoxxo279
      @borkborkfoxxo279 Год назад

      @@WyvernYT No. Bad. Digitally trunked systems are linked in multiple ways, not just by the range of their transmitters. They are definitionally more resilient.

    • @borkborkfoxxo279
      @borkborkfoxxo279 Год назад

      @@PrograError God forbid someone think of that and put multiple transmission routes between towers. That would be ridiculous, right?

  • @tyrehester5550
    @tyrehester5550 Год назад +274

    I retired after 44 years with an investor owned utility. The control center probably got oil level alarms and dispatched someone, but then temperature alarms too. so they would have opened breakers and high side switches to de-energize and protect equipment. Nuisance alarms are commonplace. Similar alarms from adjacent stations might signal intruders which would lead to law enforcement being dispatched. In my opinion they did a good job since it didn’t look like the transformers had to replaced.

    • @glenm99
      @glenm99 Год назад +30

      At my utility, our transformers are all covered by what we call bullet hole protection. It's a combination relay consisting of the outputs of low oil and gas detection relays. The idea is to protect against, well, bullet holes (and other acute leaks) by automatically de-energizing the transformer before the windings get exposed. You don't want to wait for temperature, or worse, differential protection to operate. Using the two relays together avoids nuisance trips. You can have low oil (we measure at the conservator) when the temperature drops or due to slow leaks, and you can have a bit of gas due to non-critical hotspots. But if you see both, it probably means the transformer is losing oil rapidly, and you don't want to wait for operator input.
      I don't know if other utilities use this idea... but people shoot at our transformers all the time, so it's pretty useful here.

    • @Rawdiswar
      @Rawdiswar Год назад +6

      @@glenm99 That's really good use of logic on the relays, you see similar 2 of 3 channelized logic at a lot of power plants for the same reasons. Thanks for sharing, this stuff is fascinating.

    • @Carl_in_AZ
      @Carl_in_AZ Год назад

      @@glenm99 Do you think they also shoot out the protective relaying communications to the breaker?

    • @glenm99
      @glenm99 Год назад +6

      @@Carl_in_AZ Not sure what you mean. Like, are hunters and drunk kids wandering by the substation and putting small caliber slugs through the concrete walls of the control building, into the relay panels? No. Are they aiming at the tiny control cables running from the trench up into the breaker cabinets? Also no. They're aiming for the big, fancy things that go "plink" and "ting" and sometimes spark when they score a hit.
      In terms of what the protection shoots out.... The bullet hole protection typically triggers one of the transformer's protection schemes (which may also take as input the other non-electrical trips, and some simple overcurrent elements, stuff like that). What outputs that scheme asserts varies by station, according to the station configuration.
      - If the transformer has high or low side breakers (or circuit switchers), it'll trip all of those.
      - If there is no high side breaker, but there is communication with adjacent substations available, it'll send a signal asking remote stations to isolate the transmission line (and connected transformer) from their end.
      - If there is no high side breaker, there may be a solenoid-operated ground. This closes to introduce a deliberate, hard fault onto the line, which in turn causes the protection at remote stations to operate and isolate the transmission line.
      - There are some other things that might happen if there's connected generation, wider area transmission considerations, etc. It can get complicated.
      - And there's usually some backup relays triggered, meant to de-energize a wider portion of the power system if a breaker fails to open for some reason. (We call this "breaker fail" protection.)
      In any case, if the transformer has motor-operated disconnects, the protection scheme will wait a couple of seconds, check that the transformer is de-energized, then open the disconnects (and usually trigger a lockout relay). It's so the operator or an electrician can't accidentally try to re-energize a faulted transformer, and also it's helpful in figuring out which protection scheme operated.
      If a bus was de-energized as a result of the protection operation, there may be an automatic transfer scheme that gets triggered, picking up the load from another transformer.

    • @Carl_in_AZ
      @Carl_in_AZ Год назад +3

      ​@@glenm99 Before I retired as an electrical power generation engineer I worked for AEP in substations in Michigan. I also designed power generation systems for a couple mfgs in switchgear and another company producing standby power generation for data centers. Everything you said is right on. A person who really knows what they are doing could shoot out the SCADA. You try to design around a single point of failure but there is always one way around the protection. Is difficult to design around sabotage. I was wondering if the person that knew how to isolate the grid communications and knew what to shoot out in what order. If they did then this could explain why authorities are not talking. A few years ago this happen in an Uptime Tier 4 Enterprise data center. The forensics shared during a 7x24 meeting found out that a disgruntled employee knew the order to take out the standby power's SCADA followed by a utility power outage during a storm in their triple redundancy system.
      What I can not understand is why Duke's power sectionalizers didn't kick in.

  • @ethans6539
    @ethans6539 Год назад +300

    Moore County local here, so cool to see a video on this! 4 days without power was quite an unpleasant shock, but luckily it was not very cold that week. I had no idea we were so vulnerable.
    Talk around town is that some locals who worked with Duke for a long time got laid off in a bad way and now took revenge…
    I imagine that why they hit Carthage too, if they were familiar with backup plans.

    • @cap2c484
      @cap2c484 Год назад +1

      That's my first theory rather than terrorism. I'm betting some local rednecks felt like Duke did them wrong somehow and this was their response. I would think investigators should be able to review lists of layoffs or contractors that were fired/let go and come up with some suspects.

    • @TrebleSketch
      @TrebleSketch Год назад +54

      During that time period, I've also heard it was in retaliation for a drag show that occured in the county and the bad actors wanted to disrupt the show. All we know is based on several cryptic messages from (legally) potential bad actors, hopefully we'll get some concrete investigations coming out soon

    • @scrambledmandible
      @scrambledmandible Год назад +67

      @@TrebleSketch Amazing that even in 2022 there is still useless hate and bigotry around

    • @JohnnyAngel8
      @JohnnyAngel8 Год назад +47

      @@Birthold Grooming to be caring and respectful? Something you wouldn't understand.

    • @falleithani5411
      @falleithani5411 Год назад +24

      ​@@Birthold Groomers? Like... hair-brushing? Please explain.

  • @tilenjeraj2684
    @tilenjeraj2684 Год назад +20

    My family company designs high voltage transformer stations in Slovenia. What we do now is we build walls around transformers. It is a fire and anti explosion safety feature. It is becoming a standard.
    Transformers are in mass production and are possible to repair. Few months ago we moved from active service to a museum a transformer made in 1920. They are made to last!

  • @Raysnature
    @Raysnature Год назад +430

    I used to work for the utility supplying London, UK during the height of the IRA activities. An attack on the network was our biggest fear. As Grady points out these bits of kit are often bespoke and don't just sit around in the store. We had a number of contingences and the network is fairly robust, consisting of a number of loops in loops but with a bit of knowledge it would have been relatively easy to cause severe disruption that would have taken months to restore. There's only so much switching you can do before you reach the limitations of the network.
    We role played such an event a number of times. Fortunately it never happened.

    • @tonymercer265
      @tonymercer265 Год назад +17

      I remember the attempted attack at Warrington gasworks, that would have been bad.

    • @thetruthserum2816
      @thetruthserum2816 Год назад +8

      sounds like it's time to stockpile backups...

    • @Raysnature
      @Raysnature Год назад +30

      @@thetruthserum2816 You'd think. Indeed, for the lower kVA, most utilities have plenty of kit laying around the place. This is often decommissioned equipment or redundant kit following an upgrade and so on, as well as new. Also the manufacturers have loads of it knocking about too. In any case they could probably build a new whatever in a couple of weeks.
      The issue is with the really big stuff. Apart from it just being very expensive, and no business can afford to have that much capital tied up doing nothing but sit in a yard somewhere, it often needs to be made for that specific site, with a particular set of characteristics. That can take months.

    • @alexbarnett8541
      @alexbarnett8541 Год назад +11

      I live in Florida where we get smashed with hurricanes like every year. It's amazing how quickly they repair the power grid. I don't know if we use those fancy bespoke transformers, but as soon as the power goes out from the wind, helicopters start delivering new equipment and money immediately. It's an impressive operation. Must be expensive. Florida profits big time from hurricanes.

    • @richardpike8748
      @richardpike8748 Год назад +7

      @@alexbarnett8541 That's a really good point actually. I do wonder how Florida manages to seemingly "shrug" off hurricanes that happen as frequently as they do

  • @davestir5743
    @davestir5743 Год назад +355

    This has happened about 6-7 years ago out here in CA. Those substations now have 15ft walls around them with sniper sensor towers every 100ft. If someone shoots at them it can pin-point where the shot came from with 3ft. It's the same tech the army uses in battlefields. They also have security vehicles roaming the hills surrounding the substation now 24/7. They shoot the transformers, then the oil leaks out of the transformers, causing them to overheat then they pop. It happened more than once, which is why they have the new walls and sensors installed now.

    • @jeffreymorris1752
      @jeffreymorris1752 Год назад +34

      I was hypothesizing microphones stationed around substations to triangulate in on where gunshots came from about a month ago. I figured surely someone had thought of that ages ago. Good to hear I was right about that. The beautiful part is that those installations would be very inexpensive and have very low power requirements similar to an Arduino. Tiny as well, to where attackers would never feel confident they disabled all of them.

    • @lennykravitz4107
      @lennykravitz4107 Год назад +7

      @@jeffreymorris1752 the power company probably doesn’t want to pay $ for it

    • @ciskokid5936
      @ciskokid5936 Год назад +18

      What's the point of the sensors if the shooter just leave immediately after

    • @feuby8480
      @feuby8480 Год назад +23

      @@ciskokid5936 if you couple it with some video, or direct contact with police forces, this may help catching the moron.

    • @tomc.5704
      @tomc.5704 Год назад +27

      @@ciskokid5936 I can think of four benefits off the top of my head
      1) Simple acoustic detector to backup the alarm system. It alerts you that there was an attack, so you can take action to mitigate damage before the transformer fails.
      2) Aid in the investigation. If you know where the shot came from, you can look for bullet casings, footprints, etc
      3) Make the attackers feel less safe. Make them worry, "what if the FBI found out we were planning this, and is waiting around the corner, and going to receive real-time notification of our exact location?"
      4) Couple the acoustic sensors with an IR/LLTV camera to possibly catch footage of the perpetrators

  • @FlorenceSlugcat
    @FlorenceSlugcat Год назад +206

    That mobile power station is pretty impressive.
    It seems to have been able to act as a transformer for the area while the other ones were still under repair.
    The people in that area would probably have had to wait much longer for power if that truck was not available. It likely also assisted in speeding up the repairs by providing power to the substation itself, making work easier.

    • @dontblockthebox
      @dontblockthebox Год назад +7

      I’d be friends with both you guys. Nerd out friends.

    • @UtubeH8tr
      @UtubeH8tr Год назад +5

      Thank god for diesel...

    • @tedmoss
      @tedmoss Год назад

      Most people have more than one.

  • @Gunsforall76
    @Gunsforall76 Год назад +44

    Correction. Those are not ballistic resistant walls. They are fire walls. They are built to contain a fire to keep it from spreading instead of using a fire suppression system(Sprinkler System).

    • @mattkrier5856
      @mattkrier5856 Год назад +10

      Idk 8in of concrete is pretty resistant to most ballistics

    • @TheAnnoyingBoss
      @TheAnnoyingBoss Год назад +2

      Well tbh bro we have more guns than people and most of the time no one is shooting at the stations so i can see why it would seem more exoensive than its worth to litterally bulletproof the whole system

    • @davidbryant3532
      @davidbryant3532 Год назад +3

      You are sadly mistaken.

    • @powderdropzone
      @powderdropzone 10 месяцев назад

      That was my immediate thought. It is what it would look like though. Plenty of videos of 50 cal going right through 10" of concrete on RUclips.

    • @Valsorayu
      @Valsorayu 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@powderdropzone 50 BMG is an Anti-armour round. Saying something is not ballistic resistant because it doesn't resist something made to counter it is kind of putting the cart before the horse.
      Also just because something isn't used in a manner that is meant to be ballistic resistant doesn't stop it from being ballistic resistant.

  • @majorjohnson8001
    @majorjohnson8001 Год назад +326

    "Security through Obscurity":
    I once interviewed at a place that managed the power network for the PA, DE, NJ tristate area. When I got to the address I was given I looked around, saw a brick wall around an unlabeled building on one corner, a strip mall style office park on the other, and a sign at the office park that listed the name of the place I was going to.
    So I pulled in and started looking for the right door. Went all the way around the building and never found it.
    Called the phone number I had to ask where it was that I was supposed to be going.
    Across the street behind the brick wall that had literal drawbridges at the driveway entrances.

    • @tedmoss
      @tedmoss Год назад +7

      @Kevin Wittwer Depends on how paranoid you are.

    • @davesmith5656
      @davesmith5656 Год назад +10

      Grady explaining how easy it is has me wondering about his situational awareness.

    • @PipeScholar
      @PipeScholar Год назад +6

      Did the wall come down and turn into a bridge?

    • @JohnDoe-vy5hh
      @JohnDoe-vy5hh Год назад +12

      It's all about executive compensation. When the executives want a second yacht or third home they do away with hardening these critical sites and put the money in their pockets.

    • @tarstarkusz
      @tarstarkusz Год назад +18

      People would be shocked if they knew how badly these things are protected.
      Also, I think these were done for informational purposes. They wanted to see how the grid operators would react. There was another attack either yesterday or the day before taking out another substation.
      Eventually, we will see coordinated attacks at multiple stations where the aim will be real damage.

  • @mikeprevitera5839
    @mikeprevitera5839 Год назад +135

    I maintain the grounds for my county’s electric supplier, 22 substations and the work center in total. One of the substations is located just behind a college. About once every few years, typically the start of the school year, the director of the power company, NEW head coach of the golf team and the president of the college will have to meet because the incoming freshman golf team members use the substation for target practice. No one ever thinks to tell the new coach to tell the new team members to not do that.

    • @DanielsPolitics1
      @DanielsPolitics1 Год назад +5

      Doesn’t the outgoing coach think to do that?

    • @mikeprevitera5839
      @mikeprevitera5839 Год назад +27

      According to the local newspaper most coaches don’t leave “happy” so I assume they don’t care and everyone else assumes that “not my job”. That’s just my personal opinion on why it continues to happen.

    • @Fickets
      @Fickets Год назад +14

      Must live in a fantasy world if you think telling college freshman not to do something won’t make them want to do it more. Just build a taller wall.

    • @mikeprevitera5839
      @mikeprevitera5839 Год назад +18

      @Under7Cs yes it takes me about an hour but my contract states that I can charge for extra “liter removal”. The only catch is I have to turn the golf balls into my boss at the power company. I don’t mind he’s a cool guy and makes sure I get paid well since he bills the college for “damages”.

    • @mikeprevitera5839
      @mikeprevitera5839 Год назад +12

      @phickets3694 the fence is 10-12 feet tall, just guessing. Half the balls land inside the fence but there is 2 acres of grass surrounding the substation that has to be mowed and the other half of the balls end up in the lawn.

  • @mbvoelker8448
    @mbvoelker8448 Год назад +179

    So glad you covered this.
    We're in the affected area and getting solid news on what actually happened has been extremely difficult.

    • @blinking_dodo
      @blinking_dodo Год назад +11

      What do you think about the fact that you don't get to hear what happened?
      Normally news/government channels would be all over this...
      Don't you think it is suspiciously quiet over there?

    • @mbvoelker8448
      @mbvoelker8448 Год назад +30

      @@blinking_dodo While it was happening I didn't have access to the news because even the 4G for the phones was down. After the power was back it had fallen off the news.
      What news I did get was long on human drama and short on technical analysis.

    • @blinking_dodo
      @blinking_dodo Год назад +6

      @@mbvoelker8448 Wait, cell towers should have 48 hour backup power, right?

    • @mbvoelker8448
      @mbvoelker8448 Год назад +16

      @@blinking_dodo Phone calls and text worked, but 4G didn't.

    • @SuperSayinSolidSnek
      @SuperSayinSolidSnek Год назад +9

      @@blinking_dodo everyone in the nation heard about this, what are you talking about?

  • @Ja2808R
    @Ja2808R Год назад +95

    6:59 The mobile transformer looked really neat, almost menacing. Would have been cool to see going down the road, but I bet it had a cover.
    One up for all the great people who have over-thought infrastructure emergencies.

    • @guitardzan5641
      @guitardzan5641 Год назад

      What is your opinion of those in Congress who have consistently refused to harden our Grid against EMP attacks?
      Three nukes detonated 120 miles above the Continental USA will put our power grid out of action for years. The population dieoff from exposure, starvation, thirst, and breakdown in the rule of law is reliably estimated at 90%.
      Our ICBM defenses have assumed an over-the-pole attack.....There is no defense against missiles launched via the gulf coast...... NO DEFENSE!
      One up for all the great people who have over-thought infrastructure emergencies??? Seriously??????

    • @Shanidar1
      @Shanidar1 Год назад +4

      I agree, it's a great bit of kit to have on standby

    • @01ltlb7
      @01ltlb7 Год назад +2

      They don't have a cover for them. Some of the equipment on the portable might fold up for transportation.

    • @matthewroutt3938
      @matthewroutt3938 Год назад +3

      Another youtuber - Bobsdecline - has a video about a mobile substation his utility uses. It's smaller than the one Duke used in this case (138/69kV vs 230kV) but should be the same concept. ruclips.net/video/hh23MTPrvKc/видео.html

    • @Ja2808R
      @Ja2808R Год назад

      @@matthewroutt3938
      Thank you Matt for sharing, checking it out now! I believe it’s an excellent concept and praise whom created it.

  • @crashboombang9127
    @crashboombang9127 Год назад +217

    Great video Brady! Just a comment on the wall shown at 9:50 between 2 transformers. This is not a ballistic wall, but a blast/fire wall that protects one transformer if the other has a catastrophic failure. In a nutshell degraded oil can loose its insulative properties which can cause internal arcing, leading to an over-pressure situation inside the transformer, and then it can go boom. The wall is designed to protect the second transformer.

    • @PracticalEngineeringChannel
      @PracticalEngineeringChannel  Год назад +143

      Yes, thanks for pointing this out. Unfortunately, there aren't a lot of good images of ballistic barriers available to license from stock footage libraries.

    • @monophoto1
      @monophoto1 Год назад +23

      @@PracticalEngineeringChannel CrashBoomBank is right that the image shows a fire wall, but I would thing that strategically placed firewalls in combination with better perimeter protection would go a long way toward preventing this kind of sabotage. The basic weakness is that chain-link fences have holes that anyone can poke a gun through, and if you can see the target, you can shoot it.

    • @SeanBZA
      @SeanBZA Год назад +2

      @@monophoto1 Yes, and i would think the radiators were targeted over the tank itself, simply because those tanks are constructed from very thick steel plates, simply to withstand the forces involved in a failure they have to safely contain, and also to survive for decades in use. Even the smaller transformers of around 100kVAhave substantial tanks, easily able to be classed as bullet proof, and the most fragile parts are the radiators and insulators, as pretty all other parts are made very heavy and strong, as they have to contain the expected pressure pulse coming from internal arcing, and not deform at all.
      As to keeping spares, typical utility will have around 10 of the smaller ones on hand as units for swap out for service, and probably the same number of MV switches as well. Larger they might have one or two per district, just for unexpected loss due to weather, but the bigger units and switchgear is pretty much going to be one per utility spare, possibly even one only in the whole country, there to go for scheduled work.
      By me power was lost due to vandalism to steal $5 worth of copper, and destroying the outgoing cables and the incoming MV switchgear. Took 4 days to restore as well, mostly because they had to bring in the spare parts and the crews from all over to do the work.

    • @chrisstott8580
      @chrisstott8580 Год назад

      @@SeanBZA One of reasons for the thick sides of the transformer tank is also the weight of the oil as well as the gas pressure from an internal fault

  • @kstricl
    @kstricl Год назад +61

    The main feed station for the town I live in is about 15km north of us on the main highway into town; theoretically it could be struck by an errant semi and we would be without power for quite a while. The simplest security measure on it is simply a sign that says "no copper on site, all wiring is aluminum," addressing the main threat to the local grid.

    • @1992djg
      @1992djg Год назад +7

      Transformer windings are definitely copper but accessing them would prove to be more difficult than it would be worth

    • @PrograError
      @PrograError Год назад

      @@1992djg don't underestimate the desperate.

    • @michiganengineer8621
      @michiganengineer8621 Год назад

      @@PrograError Or the greedy

    • @kpc211
      @kpc211 Год назад

      Wait... Yes, aluminium is cheaper than copper, but not by orders of magnitude... Why would one steal the copper but not the aluminium?
      And is it even technically possible to steal elements of such a substation while it is energized? I guess the risk is only limited to the moments when it's shut down for maintenance.
      15 kV power lines, the railway catenary etc. sometimes get indeed stolen. But at such a low voltage it's not that difficult to get enough insulation to do it in a more or less safe way. But with 110 kV power lines and very thick, heavy wiring that's not even easy to move?

  • @thezackast2752
    @thezackast2752 Год назад +147

    As a guy who knows people in Moore county, I'd like to commend Duke energy for finally getting something done on time. I lived there for a bit, and not once did Duke get the power fixed on time.

    • @PrograError
      @PrograError Год назад +4

      Probably cos they (town folks) are gonna freeze their arse off... And they'd be on the hook...

    • @baronweber6801
      @baronweber6801 Год назад +5

      That on time fix if just a best case estimate. The computation will give a average restoration time for an outage based on recent outages in the area that’s out compared to what has happened in the past. The trouble man and or system operator that is evaluating will adjust the time based on trouble found. We try to estimate the time as close as posable but there are things you can’t anticipate. Then again that’s not my company.

    • @thezackast2752
      @thezackast2752 Год назад +4

      @baronweber6801 they took like 5 hours to fix a squirrel chewing on a line. How does that take 5 hours

    • @PrograError
      @PrograError Год назад +2

      @@thezackast2752 well… it’s not a “brownout situation “

    • @yungsweatshop8797
      @yungsweatshop8797 Год назад +11

      @@thezackast2752 crew has to come out, get the lines de-energized, install a splice, then re-energize the line. Have you ever touched a 15KV 600A line before?

  • @ttmilk6633
    @ttmilk6633 Год назад +14

    I got stuck in Moore county overnight on a trip back from the Lantern Festival. My Girlfriend and I stopped at a gas station outside of the town,where she didn't want to get gas at, prices were too high and she was sketched out. So we left and drove into Moore County where we found a gas station in a dark part of town. After gas station hopping, we decided to call Family for help, and had to wait a few hours for them to get there. Meanwhile we were reading reports of how everything was all unfolding. Originally we thought something must have fell on a powerline.. and services would be restored soon. We were wrong. Met some friendly people. Police officers, a lady gave us a gas jug... in case someone would have let us siphon some of their out of their car.

  • @uss_04
    @uss_04 Год назад +97

    I first learned about how vulnerable transformers at substations were a decade ago when talking about CMEs and how difficult they are to replace en masse. Crazy we’re in a situation now where direct attacks are actually taking them out

    • @BuckingHorse-Bull
      @BuckingHorse-Bull Год назад

      What if it was an inside job by security companies. They created a need to have security around transformers.

    • @trinydex
      @trinydex Год назад

      and the question is who is doing it?

    • @stefanblumhoff2744
      @stefanblumhoff2744 Год назад +1

      @@trinydex not to be a smart arse, but has anyone considered Russian or Chinese supporters or even domestic terrorists and how the hell do you stop the Israel wire method?

    • @stefanblumhoff2744
      @stefanblumhoff2744 Год назад

      Inside job??

    • @donniegombel
      @donniegombel Год назад

      @@stefanblumhoff2744 you can not. One would think those same amount of bullet's could cripple the whole state or south east like what happen when the whole north east went dark. If you notice it's awful close to a base that's Full of Yes Men, and women, that follow Every Order. We will see what that 75,000.00 brings out of the woodwork that we get to learn about.

  • @oldguy7402
    @oldguy7402 Год назад +118

    Read "Lights out" by Ted Koppel. He very completely explained this exact vulnerability years ago. The transformers used at key grid interties are even harder to replace (unique to the site, and very large) and not made in the USA any more. Disabling these could cause outages in months, not weeks.

    • @MrSolLeks
      @MrSolLeks Год назад +1

      There was that attack in cali like 20 years ago too

    • @CallsItLikeISeizeIts
      @CallsItLikeISeizeIts Год назад

      18 month lead time, made DHS come up with Transformer Spare program. Leak the Dioxin by bullet or hand , game over

    • @billclancy4913
      @billclancy4913 Год назад +6

      @@MrSolLeks en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metcalf_sniper_attack

    • @MrSolLeks
      @MrSolLeks Год назад +2

      @@billclancy4913 ah, 2013. Feels like 20 years ago. Thx for the link

    • @rougarou4514
      @rougarou4514 Год назад +1

      based

  • @beenstork
    @beenstork Год назад +115

    I work at a large power plant near the confluence of 2 500kv transmission lines. The switchyard connecting them just got (starting last year) upgraded perimeter walls around it to obscure the equipment from view. They aren’t ballistic protection but they do hinder someone from viewing the specific equipment. Love the channel btw

    • @ST3ADYxKICKS
      @ST3ADYxKICKS Год назад +2

      Unless that person owns a drone lol

    • @pkwithmeplease
      @pkwithmeplease Год назад +1

      @@ST3ADYxKICKS thats illegal to fly by those stations.

    • @cryptoskid117
      @cryptoskid117 Год назад +26

      @@pkwithmeplease so is shooting transformer. Don’t think they care too much champ

    • @MikeDCWeld
      @MikeDCWeld Год назад +3

      Sometimes concealment can be just as effective as cover. If you don't know _where_ to shoot, why expose yourself by doing so?

    • @paladinboyd1228
      @paladinboyd1228 Год назад +1

      @@cryptoskid117, Willing to bet that’s the next security upgrade, some type of jammer that keeps drones out of the area.

  • @byg2na249
    @byg2na249 10 месяцев назад +2

    I moved to moore county just after this attack, our house signing was delayed because our realtor had no power. Almost everybody in our neighborhood has generators now and I had NO IDEA someone actually attacked the substation. So cool seeing my little town of wispering pines on a practical engineering video!

  • @monophoto1
    @monophoto1 Год назад +174

    Excellent - very well done. My experience as a power system planner is that major transmission infrastructure is designed to account for at least N-1 failures, but the same is not true for local area distribution systems like Moore County, and that's got to change. This was a highly publicized event, but it was not the first - there was a similar shooting incident at a 500kV PG&E substation near San Jose a few years ago that got less attention because the local transmission grid was designed to withstand a single-point failure. But in addition to the lesson regarding system planning, it also shows the need for both physical protection of critical infrastructure (a chain-link fence is, well, porous), and better spares planning. Mobile transformers are great in theory, but in reality, limitations on road weight and size prevent them from having the capacity to be very effective. Ultimately, this should lead utilities to move away from customization to use of more modular designs so that a small number of spares can backfill a larger number of applications.
    There has always been a few random incidents of frustrated hunters shooting insulators during deer season, but the nature of the threat is changing, and the consequences are potentially far more severe.

    • @AndrewMerts
      @AndrewMerts Год назад +8

      I think part of this is also that in general N-1 redundancy doesn't always cover the same type of failures. The Moore county electrical grid probably was "N-1 redundant" if you would have asked someone in Duke energy, they almost certainly could have opened up breakers and switches to route around any reasonable failure within the main targeted substation. Geographic redundancy isn't always considered.

    • @gigaWUTT
      @gigaWUTT Год назад +1

      N-1 wouldn’t have made a difference here. N-1-1 would have been the better design, but assuming the attacker knew what they were doing, they would have likely shot at the third transformer. They needed another 115kv feed to that loop to alleviate some of this but who knows if the load could have been supported by the single line.
      Also mobile transformers have less ground pressure than typical semi-tractor trailers on roads.
      Duke Energy likely has spares but due to these being 230kV, they are likely stored with oil, so you need to de-process the transformer, ship it, and reprocess which could take upwards of a month. Plus you can see in the arial clips they are remediating the soil since it’s contaminated with the transformer oil. I would predict that the one that’s out of service will be getting replaced with a new unit.

    • @philippstanica6201
      @philippstanica6201 Год назад +5

      Interesting comment, i‘m planning transmission networks for germany. TSOs must always calcilate by n-1. Also we have to secure the so called n-1* criteria, which means if we shut down one piece of eqipment and then an error occurs we still have to maintain an operational grid without an outage. On top of that, we have to secure our transmission system against common-mode or common-cause failures. So a complete destruction of a substation, or destroying towers don‘t cause any outage.
      For the distribution network we just maintain n-1 and most of the time n-1*. That‘s how we achive a mean outage time of ~10min/ year for every customer.

    • @efricha
      @efricha Год назад +2

      I remember that one well. That was truly a competent effort by a motivated group. They preposition rock piles to find their shooting locations in the dark, cut the comm lines and then took out the transformers.

    • @monophoto1
      @monophoto1 Год назад

      @@gigaWUTT Agree fully - the basic design of a 115kV look with power entering at only one point was flawed. Before there were terrorists there were tornadoes, and a single tornado would take down that design.

  • @carlinator92
    @carlinator92 Год назад +114

    Where I live in Europe, large grid transformers are mostly encased in concrete.
    The main concerns here were vehicle strikes, falling equipment during storms and enemy infantry fire like machine gunfire, RPGs, mortars and shrapnel from artillery shelling.
    It is also cheaper than burying them under ground, which was done for the first ones on the grid.

    • @belisarian6429
      @belisarian6429 Год назад +23

      Maybe wrong here, but isnt Europe grid also much more interconnected? Giving extra redundancy. I think that is best way to prevent such incidents.

    • @carlinator92
      @carlinator92 Год назад +6

      ​@@belisarian6429 Idk if more or less interconnected, but yes it is..
      Yeah redundancy is good for protection against accidents and natural disasters and
      I guess if one site is attacked one can alert security forces to respond to all others..

    • @lll9107
      @lll9107 Год назад +8

      @@belisarian6429 USA is over two times bigger than EU. 4.3 mil sq/km versus 10.4. Your countries are tiny as hell.

    • @Antto
      @Antto Год назад

      @@lll9107 What is your argument? Surface area of USA is big therefore they cannot enclose transformers with concrete to prevent damage from bullets.

    • @carlinator92
      @carlinator92 Год назад +1

      @Cancer McAids Yeah the grid is owned by the government, regions and municipalities over here in some areas local grids are privately owned..

  • @hgbugalou
    @hgbugalou Год назад +63

    While this is a little bit scary, as an engineer myself, I love seeing the hard work put into protective devices as well as emergency plans(the substation truck) come together and save money and get the power back on faster. No doubt engineers will eventually figure out better ways to protect the substations all togethher in the future.

    • @blinking_dodo
      @blinking_dodo Год назад +9

      Just think of this:
      You need only one crazy techie that buys some drones and "heavy fireworks" to drive around targeting substations.
      I could probably darken the entire Netherlands myself, if i wanted.
      (Not anymore though, since this message will get me on a list 😂)

    • @bryansiepert9222
      @bryansiepert9222 Год назад

      How often do you eat beans?

    • @DMahalko
      @DMahalko Год назад +2

      Nearly everything needs to be underground in rebar-reinforced and faraday-shielded concrete vaults. Put 500+ kilovolt transmission lines underground, suspended in the center of bored tunnels that are 15-25 feet in diameter. The grid would be protected from terrorism, solar storms, snow and ice, hurricanes and tornadoes, bird guano on insulators, flooding...

    • @thegiggler2
      @thegiggler2 Год назад +1

      @@DMahalko Dammit that is a great idea.

  • @ricardokowalski1579
    @ricardokowalski1579 Год назад +12

    Review the experience gained in Colombia and Peru. The was a multi-year coordinated effort to disrupt the power grid at local and national level in both countries.
    Some hard lessons can be learned without having to re-live them in the US.
    The video is light on details, and avoids pandering to panic and fear. 👍

    • @Letsberealish
      @Letsberealish Год назад

      Yeah and since all of the criminals from those countries are crossing into the US, this is very relevant now.

    • @jean-pierredeclemy7032
      @jean-pierredeclemy7032 Год назад +2

      It also lessens the use of this video as an educational tool for copycats

    • @ricardokowalski1579
      @ricardokowalski1579 Год назад

      @@jean-pierredeclemy7032 There was an actual engineering office in Bogota, paid by the FARC, to study the public data, do field surveys of the transmission lines, and "bid" on spare parts and equipment to gather intelligence and recommend where to strike.
      I was amazed by how deep these actors can burrow into detailed technical matters.
      Regards.

  • @jonadams8841
    @jonadams8841 Год назад +61

    Usually straightforward to eyeball the voltages given insulator sizes and spacing between conductors. Here in Arizona there’s a solid high voltage interconnect around PHX, but outlying areas aren’t so fortunate.
    As you state, “security through obscurity” is typical in many engineering disciplines, primarily due to cost and the customer claiming “oh, that can’t happen”

    • @GilmerJohn
      @GilmerJohn Год назад +4

      That's common in the old telephone business. The switching and wire centers would take months to repair or replace if seriously damaged. But there were in nondescript buildings which had no indication aside from a very small sign that they were part of the bell system. Moreover, the cables and came in underground despite the fact that most of the distribution was on poles.

  • @Ntmoffi
    @Ntmoffi Год назад +424

    This really demonstrated how vulnerable our power grid is.

    • @TheFirstBubbaBong
      @TheFirstBubbaBong Год назад +7

      To the sun.

    • @titleloanman
      @titleloanman Год назад +31

      It’s honestly not as vulnerable as people think it is. I’ve been in grid controls for a decade and the overwhelming majority of our issues could be solved simply by building more generation.

    • @dorvinion
      @dorvinion Год назад +30

      @@titleloanman Better still, massively decentralizing generation
      If every residence is a producer you eliminate this risk almost entirely.

    • @ARVash
      @ARVash Год назад

      @@dorvinion better still a solar panel on every person's back. Dumb

    • @RomeoMike22
      @RomeoMike22 Год назад +4

      Wait till you find out how vulnerable they are to electronic attack from thousands of miles away

  • @Suicynic
    @Suicynic Год назад +10

    Grady, you’re the best. Please keep this style and take your time with this amazing content!!!!

  • @eliljeho
    @eliljeho Год назад +36

    While you are focused on daily comforts that electricity provides(and making this video gentle), there are many who are dependent on medical equipment that needs dedicated electrical supply. Batteries are there for emergencies, to get to a power supply. I don't think you forgot, but it is important for me to highlight. Thanks for sharing your expertise!

  • @eliotmortimore6865
    @eliotmortimore6865 Год назад +11

    I work for a transformer manufacturer and distributor and I sent this to all my co workers. Very well made!

  • @Salamandra40k
    @Salamandra40k Год назад +125

    I used to live in Moore County. Grew up there until college. It's scary when I heard it, and I know people who were affected, but its a little strange to see one of my favorite RUclips channels talking about my home. Keep up the good work, Grady!

    • @deborah_chrysoprase
      @deborah_chrysoprase Год назад +5

      Had this same feeling when he talked about the 2003 eastern US power outage and talking about the Cleveland grid where it all started :3 Like, hey that's us! We caused a whole region of the country to go out of power! :D

    • @timbuktoo7050
      @timbuktoo7050 Год назад +1

      This page is great

    • @gxlorp
      @gxlorp Год назад

      Uh, yeah it's not that strange. It's on the earth. Something happened there of importance. Ergo, youtubers talk about it. It can happen to any place on the earth

    • @deborah_chrysoprase
      @deborah_chrysoprase Год назад +7

      @@gxlorp you must be really fun at parties

    • @Irishcream216
      @Irishcream216 Год назад

      Same. I have a lot of family in the area.

  • @normal_human
    @normal_human Год назад +1

    Being someone who isn't from the US, it seems like either people or things getting shot are a pretty consistent pattern.
    It really just doesn't happen anywhere else.

    • @JEJAK5396
      @JEJAK5396 Год назад +1

      Maybe it doesn’t happen where you live, it also is extremely rare occurrence here in the US.

    • @4nciite
      @4nciite Год назад +1

      Except the rates of gun violence in Sweden, New Zealand and Australia are rising quickly and Sweden has also had a lot of grenade attacks over the past several years. It wont be long until is evens out across the globe.

  • @pashcroft
    @pashcroft Год назад +14

    I work in the industry and finding bullet holes in substation gear is on the rise in CA as well, very frustrating.

    • @MrNeptunebob
      @MrNeptunebob Год назад +4

      Because most of them are in the forest, I thought sub stations were shot at all the time by hunters who miss their targets and by drunks.

    • @ismth
      @ismth Год назад

      @@MrNeptunebob true lol but not just that. DHS has sent memos warning domestic terrorists “continue to plot and encourage physical attacks against electrical infrastructure.”

  • @paulfabre6058
    @paulfabre6058 Год назад +102

    Thank you for your book. It is wonderful. I evangelize about it to all my friends. Now onto the meat. The trailer mounted portable substation by EFACEC of Portugal is a marvel unlike no other. Much like a massive carnival ride, what it took to make such a heavy and complex piece of equipment travel over the road is nothing short of Burj Khalifa level engineering. Stop frame at 7:11 and look at that. Besides the chassis, the weight distribution, the height and width restrictions, and leveling jacks and everything that had to be done to control arcing, this is truly a complete package that can apparently respond to a crisis at a moments notice anywhere it is needed. ON A FREAKING TRAILER! Does Duke own something like this? Or is there a third party, "high voltage SWAT team" that keeps this gear on standby ready to deploy at a moment's notice? (Obviously very useful in tornado/hurricane country.) I do realize that you specialize in civil engineering, but you gotta be wowed by such a magnificent all-in-one, fast deploying, (voltage adaptable?) piece of gear that is SO specialized you could live your entire life and NEVER see something as cool as this. That's seven axles on the ground BEFORE it gets to the hauler's fifth wheel. I did intentionally give props to the traveling carnival ride industry because if you ever want to see some seriously over-the-top mechanical engineering, watch a three trailer giant ferris wheel get set up. ruclips.net/video/a1g_XB1mb5k/видео.html Thanks for everything you do. People should be much more aware of the incredible things that make our lives as we live them possible.

    • @KENFEDOR22
      @KENFEDOR22 Год назад +6

      The mobile sub is most likely Duke's. Most IOU's own a fleet of these, usually made by either US-based Delta Star or EFACEC (as you mentioned). Mobile subs are designed to be deployed quickly so they must comply with state transport regulations meaning one pound over and they'd require a special permit (which would defeat the purpose). They are limited in their output, around 80 MVA at 230kV and 65C temperature rise because of the weight restrictions. Some IOUs deploy mobile transformers, more for maintenance purposes, which can be rated higher as the rig is devoted to just the transformer and not the other equipment.

    • @barefootalien
      @barefootalien Год назад +4

      Not to downplay the amazingness of the engineering, but that articulated trailer is a standardized design that you can see hauling all kinds of super-heavy equipment.
      Using it for the transformer like that is genius to be sure, especially mounting the cooling and control equipment on the front and rear sections! But while the _utilization_ of that trailer type is impressive engineering, I just wanted to be clear that they didn't _design_ the trailer, get it road-certified, etc. It's an off-the-shelf trailer just _used_ extremely cleverly.

  • @AndogaSpock
    @AndogaSpock Год назад +36

    I worked in a substation in a different country for more than a year before moving to US. Substations are constantly targeted by thieves looking to steal copper snd other metals. They are very knowledgeable about the inner workings of the grid and know how to trip lines so that they can go in and cut out wires. I am pretty sure it's the same in US also.
    Also the design of the grid can be improved to avoid single point entry failure. Local loops should be connected to the grid in multiple ways so that even if 1 station goes out, others should keep supplying.

    • @sahanavica.5574
      @sahanavica.5574 Год назад +6

      Correct. Also the audacity of these copper thieves to risk their lives around high voltage equipment just to collect a few hundred dollars of scrap metal is utterly terrifying to me.

    • @AndogaSpock
      @AndogaSpock Год назад

      @@sahanavica.5574 pls search for the phrase "substation theft" in RUclips.

    • @sahanavica.5574
      @sahanavica.5574 Год назад

      @@AndogaSpock Oh no, I'm well aware, I use to work adjacent to this field too.

    • @dzerkle
      @dzerkle Год назад

      No. The metal thieves don’t go after in-use conductor much in the US. They will steal every piece of copper you leave out overnight at a job site, though.

    • @catc8927
      @catc8927 Год назад

      @@dzerkle The ones near me seem partial to highway lighting wiring though. There’s always sections of roads unlit at night due to the thieves.

  • @somethingsomething404
    @somethingsomething404 Год назад +3

    Reminds me of Y2k in port Stanley Ontario, it actually happened, but only because idiots damaged the substation at midnight

  • @jesseadcock247
    @jesseadcock247 Год назад +49

    Another interesting part to add to this sabotage. Just a few days after this attack, hand written bomb threats were sent to many power plants in neighboring states. We treated the letter we got at our plant in KY very cautiously knowing that just a few days prior this event had happened in North Carolina.

    • @quintrankid8045
      @quintrankid8045 Год назад +2

      "hand written" Really?

    • @Isiahkan
      @Isiahkan Год назад +20

      @@quintrankid8045 No one ever said wanna be terrorists were smart enough to not write notes in their own hand writing.

    • @toastedt140
      @toastedt140 Год назад +5

      @@quintrankid8045 Probably written on the back of a dollar general receipt knowing NC

    • @Blox117
      @Blox117 Год назад +3

      @@quintrankid8045 what else would you write it with? a printer can easily be traced

    • @MrNicoJac
      @MrNicoJac Год назад

      Did you notice anything about the language use that struck you as non-native English speakers?
      I've recently heard that apparently the CIA is responsible (through local partners) for a lot of those industrial fires that are happening in Russia.
      This attack, and letters like that, seem like the exact same sleeper-cell counter-moves that Russia might make as a "back off, for two can play this game" kinda message....

  • @chrissistrunk
    @chrissistrunk Год назад +40

    Another fantastic video, Grady. Well done and bonus points for getting drone footage.
    In the 10 years since the attack on Metcalf and Keo substations (of which I was part of the substation security task force back then), the challenge will be how to improve hardening, robustness, and response to smaller substations. While this attack didn't affect the bulk electric system, it still mattered to the citizens of Moore County.

    • @Rick.Fleischer
      @Rick.Fleischer Год назад +4

      The Metcalf sniper attack seemed to be to be a "proof of capability" of a criminal organization. They specifically targeted equipment that was shut down, but proved that they could do massive damage. Had they shut down a city, they would have had a hundred times the press coverage. This was to-the-point and relatively quiet.

    • @robert5
      @robert5 Год назад

      A guy a few comments above said stand multiple steel plates around the transformers. Easy cheap and you can put them up pretty quick and it wont cost anywhere near what a huge cement wall would. It might not be perfect but would make it a lot tougher to damage a transformer with a bullet.

  • @TheTarrMan
    @TheTarrMan Год назад +22

    It's amazing how little it takes to mess something up and have major consequences.

    • @Bryan-Hensley
      @Bryan-Hensley Год назад +2

      Internet is much more fragile. We had a transformer fire on a light pole in our little town. It took out the internet for the entire end of our state and into the bordering states around near us.

    • @semosancus5506
      @semosancus5506 Год назад +1

      yeah the perps could never even come close to paying back the damage. If they had any morals, they would self punish with the only reasonable outcome.

  • @ynot6473
    @ynot6473 Год назад +1

    most substations here in the UK have a brick wall around them. the small one at the end of my street is in a shed about the size of a single car garage.

  • @djgislertxwx6182
    @djgislertxwx6182 Год назад +30

    Excellent work once again Grady. This really brings to light many of the problems these “bad actors” are causing. I have a feeling most of these attacks are just practice for a more coordinated attack. I don’t think we have seen the last of this.
    Auto Transformers are a very specialized piece of equipment and these people know that. Unprotected equipment, overloaded equipment, and supply chain issues are creating a trifecta that will have severe consequences in the future. I urge people especially if you live near or pass by a substation regularly to keep an eye out. If you see something that doesn’t look right or normal, say something. We don’t usually know things have happened until after the person has left.
    Love,
    Your local transmission operator.

    • @KENFEDOR22
      @KENFEDOR22 Год назад +1

      Really well said, thank you! I jogged by a 500kV SS a few years ago and noticed the gate open, no bucket truck around so I called the EMC. This was in rural Georgia.

    • @Aim54Delta
      @Aim54Delta Год назад +2

      Where I live, we don't have much motivation to turn off the power on the state.
      However, I disagree with these individuals only in their sense of timing. Well... and lack of proper demolition tactics... but not everyone can develop those skills.
      Perhaps our government should stop funding domestic terrorists to further its own political agenda before those of us who toppled nations for them decide the evil empire has to fall at any cost.

  • @BenMilford
    @BenMilford Год назад +16

    That portable substation is incredible.

  • @_D_P_
    @_D_P_ Год назад +13

    7:11 That is the coolest looking truck. Like giant spark plugs

  • @harryd9782
    @harryd9782 3 месяца назад +2

    Two of my favorite wrestlers of all time are from Moore County…Matt and Jeff Hardy.

  • @911life5
    @911life5 Год назад +17

    I in no way condone what somebody did but I hope this does improve the strength of our grid and at the same time I hope it widens peoples eyes to how fragile our way of life is and the importance of being prepared to live a harder and more simple life.

    • @OkalaborationO
      @OkalaborationO Год назад

      I think it’s debatable whether a simpler life would be harder 😅

    • @911life5
      @911life5 Год назад

      @@OkalaborationO haha I’m all about a more simple life but sadly it would make us more vulnerable as a nation and the people that’s life depends on electricity would suffer… but trust me I’m all about a simpler way of living.

    • @StupidDummyIdiot
      @StupidDummyIdiot Год назад

      The increasing rate of violent occurrences should shed some light on the deteriorating mental stability of the US populace, and yet we seem to not change for the better or attempt to care more for one another. This isn't really true on a local level but it is on the national level and that sets this negativity.

  • @jessemeier3447
    @jessemeier3447 Год назад +18

    I worked at a utility truck company for a few years. Some of the fiberglass serial platforms have ballistic plating between the plastic liner and the platform.

  • @ibbylancaster8981
    @ibbylancaster8981 Год назад +16

    I live the next county over,Hoke, and it was an eye opening experience for a lot of folks. It’s right next to Ft Bragg as well. There’s a lot of folks that are saying this was a test run 🤔🧐. I used to work at a plant that built large transformers such as these. The plating that the tank is made of is usually no less than 3/8 thick and the radiator is less than an 1/8 inch. Whoever did it knew what they were doing! You’d have to have a .50 caliber to penetrate the main tank. Excellent video Grady. Much love from ground zero 😎

    • @tenchraven
      @tenchraven Год назад +2

      To do it at half a mile, yes, you'd need something like a .50. To penetrate an eight of an inch at under a hundred yards, a shotgun slug would be best for the big hole but any riflle I'd use to hunt coyote or larger would go through it. If you can get closer, any axe would do it, an eight of an inch of light steel is nothing. Being next to Bragg, it could also have been a threat against certain units and their off base families.

    • @anthonydesisto2328
      @anthonydesisto2328 Год назад +2

      Most rounds will fly right through 1/8. My 300 win mag can do 3/8 mild plate at 100 yards.

    • @crazyoilfieldmechanic3195
      @crazyoilfieldmechanic3195 Год назад +1

      He doesn't seem to know much about guns.

    • @MrNeptunebob
      @MrNeptunebob Год назад

      But I would think the equipment could tolerate some shooting because of all the hunters and drunks out in these remote areas, surely these places get shot at all the time.

    • @max420thc
      @max420thc Год назад

      It would not take a 50 cal to penetrate 3/8 steel.

  • @denzzlinga
    @denzzlinga Год назад +3

    The best way to add security would be to shift away from a tree like structure of the power grid, to an interconected type. Like connecting the 115 kV loop to next 115 kV loop, so one can supply the other if one gets diconnected from the 230 kV lines.

    • @uploadJ
      @uploadJ 11 месяцев назад

      re: "The best way to add security would be to shift away from a tree like structure of the power grid, to an interconected type."
      Um, did you notice the topology in the ring around Moore County? What do you suppose the purpose of that 'ring' was?

  • @MrMilarepa108
    @MrMilarepa108 Год назад +5

    I love those deep dives into faut analysis. Your explanation on the electrical grid failure of 2021s Texas grip outage changed my way to look at energy grids forever.

  • @thavionhawkmkii4509
    @thavionhawkmkii4509 Год назад +48

    To be honest when I was a kid I asked my dad what electrical substations are and in my strange child hood mind I had the thought, "What if someone targeted all the substations across the country?" I may or may not have been reading my dad's Tom Clancy novels at the time. If a coordinated attack on the nation's electrical substations was carried out it could cripple the country. This isn't at simple thing to coordinate in secret, but it's scary how vulnerable the US's power grid actually is.

    • @KENFEDOR22
      @KENFEDOR22 Год назад +4

      that's why most utilities have rings (redundant) lines.

    • @grumpycat4584
      @grumpycat4584 Год назад +5

      @@KENFEDOR22 Ken, I just wish we could have this information, without helping those that would hurt us. Semper Fi

    • @TechNextLetsGo
      @TechNextLetsGo Год назад +5

      One more reason to get rooftop solar with a power pack and be independent.

    • @coreybabcock2023
      @coreybabcock2023 Год назад

      agree I think about this situation all the time

    • @coreybabcock2023
      @coreybabcock2023 Год назад

      @@TechNextLetsGo my camper van would sustain me

  • @KCrabbyApplez
    @KCrabbyApplez Год назад +18

    It happened again in NC a couple days ago in Thomasville. This one was of lesser importance to the power grid. They were able to reroute all affected customers quickly so nobody lost power.

    • @User_yhvz
      @User_yhvz Год назад +3

      Feel like this could have been prevented by having a concrete wall around these sites.
      A lot of them have electric fences but that doesn’t surprise me.
      Oddly enough we have one of these stations near a skatepark in my town. I almost swear I remember a few “friends” who touched the fence.
      Kind of a bad spot to put an electric fence 😂

    • @queenbee3647
      @queenbee3647 Год назад +1

      Imagine if that crazy $$$ infrastructure bill Biden shoved through *actually* went to repairing our grid.....boggles the mind!

    • @Charlii223
      @Charlii223 Год назад

      If you go to fbi seeking information there’s a lot of these cases around the country I don’t understand tho why they doing this or what’s the point of shooting those I know power goes out for some ppl but can somebody explain to me better please

    • @ferociousfeind8538
      @ferociousfeind8538 Год назад

      @@Charlii223 I'm not sure many people understand why. I'd guess the attacks are just to vent frustration with society, due to some conspiracy theory or another driving some group of people to violent, "patriotic" action. Remember people freaking out about 5G? Could be why some group attacked the substations.

  • @zapfanzapfan
    @zapfanzapfan Год назад +4

    I was surprised there weren't concrete walls around the transformers, not primarily for their protection but for protecting the rest of the equipment from them if they fail.

  • @jameslugh3641
    @jameslugh3641 Год назад +15

    6:05 also shows the EHV bushings shorted and test equipment at the bunding edge. probably doing a DIRANA and Sweep FRA to determine if the internals had suffered any damage. Go protection and control Technicians! the unsung heroes that test, repair and replace your electrical network protection systems. saving lives and equipment every day. great video as always! keep up the great work.

    • @KENFEDOR22
      @KENFEDOR22 Год назад

      nice catch! Glad the perps didn't hit the porcelain bushings.

  • @_PRISM_
    @_PRISM_ Год назад +6

    I did my senior capstone in college on electrical infrastructure security, this topic is near and dear to me!

  • @WillProwse
    @WillProwse Год назад +5

    The mobile transformer/substation is incredible!! I had no idea those exist!

  • @mjhszig
    @mjhszig Год назад

    Your jab at the end about it's vulnerability... *Chef's kiss*

  • @dannileigh6426
    @dannileigh6426 Год назад +6

    Thanks for covering this Brady. Your work to educate the public on infrastructure is valuable and appreciated.

  • @efricha
    @efricha Год назад +75

    "Security through obscurity" is very dangerous to rely on.

    • @commander31able60
      @commander31able60 Год назад

      anonymity is the best defence

    • @ShainAndrews
      @ShainAndrews Год назад +2

      Obfuscation

    • @SocialDownclimber
      @SocialDownclimber Год назад +5

      Seems like it is still better value for money than security through big walls.

    • @dx-ek4vr
      @dx-ek4vr Год назад +4

      @@SocialDownclimber That is, until the secret gets out, and in this case, the secrets got out

    • @JFirn86Q
      @JFirn86Q Год назад +2

      True, there is ZERO security in obscurity or obfuscation. It's common for people to intuitively believe it can work (look at the comments here), but it is a falsehood.

  • @jimbob1103
    @jimbob1103 Год назад +34

    Our towns main sub station was taken down for almost a day by a squirrel causing an arc

    • @mbox314
      @mbox314 Год назад +12

      We need to ban squirrels

    • @brianhirt5027
      @brianhirt5027 Год назад +2

      I'm surprised Grady didn't talk about the wee little mungers. Squirrels cause more damage to the electrical grid every year than all hurricanes in the last 30 years combined. Squirrels are terrorists! :D

    • @andrewk8636
      @andrewk8636 Год назад +1

      @mbox314 high capacity assault squirrels are a threat to our society!

    • @CATASTEROID934
      @CATASTEROID934 Год назад +4

      It's funny, at a site I used to work which happened to have a tokamak living there the power safety video included a squirrel hopping along a power line, a day or two after they switched videos a squirrel became an unintentional conductor and tripped the main transformer

    • @Gengh13
      @Gengh13 Год назад +4

      Must be those politically extreme squirrels.

  • @keeperofgunsandfish
    @keeperofgunsandfish Год назад +50

    This just reinforces the fact that modern society is held up by impossible infrastructure and preppers are not as crazy as everyone makes them put to be.
    Great video, Grady!

    • @iam1smiley1
      @iam1smiley1 Год назад +3

      Learn to live like your great grandparents did....

    • @deathmetaldownhiller7874
      @deathmetaldownhiller7874 Год назад +8

      I've lived my entire life prepared for power outages and "grid failures," whatever that grid may be, but man, when people call me a prepper, I want to smack them. Nothing wrong with a big stack of split wood and a well stocked cold storage room.

    • @h8GW
      @h8GW Год назад +5

      Nah, preppers CAN be that positive feedback loop crazy and I don't find it irrational that a "prepper" could be the culprit. A good segment of prepper culture is pro-prepping effort at the cost of societal effort.

    • @Pwn3dbyth3n00b
      @Pwn3dbyth3n00b Год назад +1

      Prepper MAGA folks are probably the ones doing this.

  • @_maxgray
    @_maxgray Год назад +8

    If this had happened in one of the northern states... Four winter days without power would mean people dead from the cold. And even for those who found somewhere warm to stay, houses that get that cold will have serious, potentially permanent damage.

  • @StevenHodder
    @StevenHodder Год назад +58

    In general, protections are not designed to protect equipment from failing - they are designed to protect the rest of the power system from failed equipment.

    • @filanfyretracker
      @filanfyretracker Год назад +8

      Similar to ones in your home really, the breaker or fuse isnt there to stop a device from releasing the magic smoke. Its there to stop the home wiring from releasing its magic smoke when the device goes into a dead short on failure.

    • @gigaWUTT
      @gigaWUTT Год назад +2

      Not true, it’s literally called transformer protection 😂 Look up SEL-487E relays

    • @StevenHodder
      @StevenHodder Год назад +1

      @@gigaWUTT I spent 15 years in protection design, including participating in IEEE standards development. I've written papers published at TAMU, Georgia Tech, and WPRC relay conferences.
      Protections only operate after the associated equipment has developed a fault - i.e. it has failed.

    • @gigaWUTT
      @gigaWUTT Год назад +1

      @@StevenHodderIs this the part where we start comparing degrees, PE certifications, and W2’s? All I was saying your over generalization is false. A true academic would acknowledge that.
      Just because a relay trips when it sees a “fault” doesn’t automatically mean it’s failed. It only means that there was a data point for a set amount of time that was outside the constraints, which are typically set to not damage equipment beyond repair.

    • @killerpenguin07
      @killerpenguin07 Год назад +3

      @@StevenHodder that is not true anymore. Many electrical protection systems are designed for a whole bunch of issues, including tripping out on transformer temperature. Only some relay functions are due to a fault, and modern substations monitor all sorts of parameters. I'm an active PE in multiple states, to say we only protect after failure is completely false.

  • @mikemorton6219
    @mikemorton6219 Год назад +13

    Great video. I would think a sight barrier would be relatively cheap and would prevent targeting fragile items.

  • @thatsthewayitgoes9
    @thatsthewayitgoes9 Год назад +5

    Thank you. Good, basic, engineering report. Especially thank you for keeping technical and not editorializing. As many of us being challenged today, you too will have to decide on balance between information and security. Most of us will vote for information. But that’s because your viewers are good character practical engineering people. Thank you.

  • @mikelong9638
    @mikelong9638 Год назад +27

    Excellent video Grady. To anyone with even a rudimentary understanding of how this stuff works it was clear from the beginning that the perpetrators knew what they were doing. The "temporary transformers" were fascinating. I've also heard that one of the more dire consequences of a large EMF event (solar flares) would be damaged transformers. Maybe an idea on a new segment, if you haven't already done one. 😄

    • @HercadosP
      @HercadosP Год назад +1

      If only a good person with a gun was on scene, that is why everyone should have more guns

    • @1992djg
      @1992djg Год назад

      @@HercadosP that’s is a incredible waste of money the station probably goes for weeks without being looked at and has been running for years

    • @shawna.4601
      @shawna.4601 Год назад +1

      Definitely seems like the shooter was at some point in the trade, a disgruntled cold Ape perhaps

    • @DanielVisOneCade
      @DanielVisOneCade Год назад +1

      @@shawna.4601 Possibly the other option that came to mind as soon as I saw it was a targeted attack with a presumable intention to remove a fixed area from service is something power sensitive in the area is the 'real' target.
      Whether that was a planned theft, destruction of some sort of storage or other variable who knows?
      As far as petty revenge goes this is pretty high up there with the lots of planning for not much return at least in my mind.

    • @shawna.4601
      @shawna.4601 Год назад

      @@DanielVisOneCade I agree, sadly some people just wanna watch the world burn

  • @matthewsnyder9296
    @matthewsnyder9296 Год назад +7

    I live in Washington near the substation attacks on Christmas morning. Ours were apparently done to burglarize nearby businesses while the power was out to them. Now all the substations in the area have private security or power company employees at them 24/7. At least for now.

  • @LuMaxQFPV
    @LuMaxQFPV Год назад +12

    Wow! Fantastic episode, Grady! Your graphics and explanations are top notch. As a drone pilot/FPV'er/UAV Science guy, I also like how you used UAV aerial shots too. Thanks for the hard work storytelling!

    • @coyoteparanoid
      @coyoteparanoid Год назад

      I'm also a remote pilot and appreciate the footage. I'd be nervous as heck operating with all that EMI and the numerous lines in the air. Would love to know the UAS used to get the footage.

  • @eldoolittle
    @eldoolittle Год назад +1

    A similar incident happened in Pocahontas Couny, WV on Thankgiving Day in the 1980s. The transformer got shot by an over eager hunter on opening day of deer season.

  • @gojeffgordon24
    @gojeffgordon24 Год назад +34

    Thanks for the video on this. I hate the news only said someone shot some equipment and left it at that. Love hearing more of deep dive of what actually took place.

    • @richardpike8748
      @richardpike8748 Год назад +1

      Well, why would they want to explain "ok, _general public,_ someone just did something that is short of a t attack and this is how they did it [and hence how you can do it too]"
      Bruh the worse an attack is, the closer to the chest the authorities keep the damage

    • @richardpike8748
      @richardpike8748 Год назад +1

      Sorry not to say that people don't _want_ to know the full story. But sometimes it's best if we aren't

  • @Beryllahawk
    @Beryllahawk Год назад +11

    Thank you for another great video! I've really enjoyed your stuff recently on the power grid. Even mentioned your videos when talking to a tech (for our land line phone, but we were discussing the buried lines for all utilities in my neighborhood). It was actually very funny and pleasing to me when the tech grinned and said "you're that kind of nerd, aren't you." (Yes, yes I am!!)
    It makes me sad to realize that - while uncommon - attacks on infrastructure are on the rise. Sometimes because of disgruntled (and/or insane) former employees...
    The fiber internet in my area (well, one of them) was impacted for seven entire months after a former employee stuck dynamite into a major substation in Jackson MS. And that was "minor" compared to what you describe here, of course - folks still had some form of internet connectivity through that company, but it was unstable and far slower than normal. That we had anything at all says something about the redundancies and support built into the system from the start, this fiber network is *very* new for this area. Power grid infrastructure on the other hand? Like everywhere, it's kind of a mish mash, some portions are very shiny and new and have all the good stuff, and others are (practically speaking) ancient and on their last legs, and the customers are left just praying that someone's making plans to update the equipment BEFORE it fails.
    Here's hoping that we not only continue to improve our technology and our overall infrastructure but that we make some huge leaps in ways to protect that infrastructure and maybe even cure some of the social ills that make people want to destroy other people's lives >.>

  • @pyropulseIXXI
    @pyropulseIXXI Год назад +38

    I went to UC Berkeley as a physics major and one of my professors was telling the class various ways to shut down the power grid with relatively easy means.
    He was an expert witness and testified in court as such for various power grid stuff.
    He was my electronics and semiconductor professor

    • @mahbriggs
      @mahbriggs Год назад +3

      Were the perpetrator(s) students of this professor?

    • @DubioserKerl
      @DubioserKerl Год назад

      @@mahbriggs I would assume that you do not need to university to get the idea that "just shoot it" would probably work.

    • @StephenGillie
      @StephenGillie Год назад +2

      During the 2008 Financial Meltdown, camera crews were interrupting the Finance class I was in to interview the professor.

    • @TubeofDestiny
      @TubeofDestiny Год назад

      @m riggs Bruh, you need that "the commies are coming!" brainrot checked, it's messing with your critical thinking abilities.

    • @mahbriggs
      @mahbriggs Год назад

      @@TubeofDestiny
      Who said anything about :commies"?
      Do you have problems with reading comprehension?
      Put away the drugs comrade!

  • @AdiosSalvi
    @AdiosSalvi Год назад +15

    Oh man gonna grab a cup of coffee to enjoy this one. Appreciate the hard work and dedication to go above and beyond much love. Hope everyone has a good week.

  • @erikkovacs3097
    @erikkovacs3097 11 месяцев назад

    In 2013 the Metcalf substation outside San Jose was attacked by a sniper targetting the transformers. Before the attack they cut some AT&T fiber trying to disrupt substation communications. The perpetrators were never caught. The substation is now surrounded by a concrete wall and a lot of perimeter security cameras and sensors.

  • @HuskyKMA
    @HuskyKMA Год назад +16

    If you remember the recent chlorine shortage on the west coast, the cause of that was a failed transformer at one of the larger chlor-alkali plants, which neighbors my factory. It would have been 9 months for a replacement transformer.
    Luckily one of the other neighboring factories happened to have a spare of just the right size. They got a lot of positive press locally for "loaning" the transformer to the chlor-alkali plant. They actually rented it to them for a tens of thousands of dollars per month.
    It almost never got their though, they drove it through our plant to the chlor-alkali plant on a remote-controlled heavy-lift deck. About halfway through the journey the hydraulics on one of the leveling cylinders sprung a leak and nearly toppled the transformer over.

  • @brucelee3388
    @brucelee3388 Год назад +17

    Here in Australia my local piddling suburban substation has had a 12ft (3.6m) high brick wall around the whole site since the 1950's. Luckily for us we no longer have pole mounted transformers in urban areas, the last ones were removed in the mid 1970's.

    • @MrHitchikerOz
      @MrHitchikerOz Год назад +2

      And we have gun laws which lessen the probability of this happening in the first place. I'm sure there are many among you who feel that if there were more guns, some hero among you would have put these urban terrorists out of action and saved the day.

    • @SkilledCheckmates
      @SkilledCheckmates Год назад +1

      The wall is most likely for noise control and fire isolation. Where in Australia are there no pole mounted transformers?

    • @ericconnor8419
      @ericconnor8419 Год назад

      @@MrHitchikerOz More guns? No that is not what we are thinking.

    • @GilmerJohn
      @GilmerJohn Год назад +1

      @@SkilledCheckmates -- In any case, where there aren't "Pole Pigs" there are pad mounted transformers. If you are a bad guy it's easier to cause problems with a pad mount.

    • @SkilledCheckmates
      @SkilledCheckmates Год назад +1

      @@GilmerJohn They're definitely easier to "access", but not sure what a civilian could do to one given they're in a metal shell. Plus the lines aren't exposed. Overhead lines however, one toss of something metallic can cause a lot of problems.

  • @AceFalken
    @AceFalken Год назад +47

    I work in Moore for a while now. it sucked especially since I do security and everything was down for several days. It's pretty well known that the power grid is relatively lightly guarded (one of those transformers stations is right to a trailer park with just a 6 foot fence). Adding a concrete barrier around the inside of the fence would be pretty cheap for adding more outside protection.
    This case might be linked to the other power grid attacks on the west coast and an online group has been sharing information on how to attack the power grid. Security needs to go up as the current trend of sabotaging the sub stations is going up over the last 5 years.

    • @rudiruttger
      @rudiruttger Год назад +1

      In at least one of those instances people were monkeying with the switches and control surfaces, no ballistic attack took place.

    • @djinn666
      @djinn666 Год назад +3

      No simple cheap fix is possible against a determined attacker. The only option is redundancy. Have 4-5 transformers where you would've had 1 or 2.

    • @shawna.4601
      @shawna.4601 Год назад +1

      There are no simple solutions /quick fixes to prevent this from happening IMO, the cost to retro-fit substations with a protective wall, nation-wide would be astronomical and with current plans/money already being used to upgrade the power grid, customers would lose their minds if their power bill suddenly tripled.
      Maybe it was a joke stating to keep 4 or 5 of these Transformers, the problem is not only are there very few companies who manufacture these, but price tags are well into six figures, also the lead time for one of these is likely multiple years so would be impossible!
      Sure seems like the shooter knew exactly was he was doing, was likely at one time or another in the trade, perhaps a disgruntled cold Ape.

    • @gavinjenkins899
      @gavinjenkins899 Год назад +3

      The cheapest way to address it is not to fortify every substation, but to provide mental healthcare, reasonable social welfare, good public education, paid for by fair taxes to the wealthy, etc, like civilized modern countries do, so that there aren't 90% of the disgruntled terrorists wanting to kill tons of people or cause widespread damage in the first place. An ounce of prevention is always worth a pound of cure.

    • @jameswilson5165
      @jameswilson5165 Год назад

      @@gavinjenkins899 And how would mental health care stop the hundreds of bad foreign actors that are now in this country thanks to the lack of border security?

  • @rickshawwheelchair
    @rickshawwheelchair Год назад +1

    I like his videos because they are full of facts, no fluff or flair

  • @collectorguy3919
    @collectorguy3919 Год назад +29

    That mobile substation transformer is an impressive machine! I'd like to learn more about the unique requirements and clever solutions. Just parking it in the substation must be a feat.

    • @KENFEDOR22
      @KENFEDOR22 Год назад +2

      Delta Star (Virginia and California plants) and EFACEC (Portugal) make these.

    • @danielmorse4213
      @danielmorse4213 Год назад +1

      I agree, amazing

  • @SilentRacer911
    @SilentRacer911 Год назад +769

    If anyone ever gets caugh/charged, they should get domestic terrorism charges because that’s what it is

    • @blah007001
      @blah007001 Год назад +26

      And if its not domestic?

    • @lairdcummings9092
      @lairdcummings9092 Год назад +37

      And what if it wasn't terrorism?
      You assert that it is so, but the authorities *do not.*
      You saying you have magical motive determination abilities?
      Feh.

    • @ravenrock541
      @ravenrock541 Год назад +43

      And murder for any deaths caused as a result of the loss of power

    • @acbthr3840
      @acbthr3840 Год назад +147

      @@lairdcummings9092 someone directly targeting and destroying critical components of electrical infrastructure is well within the purview of an act if terrorism. Unless you're suggesting that these kinds if incidents are happening accidentally

    • @dorvinion
      @dorvinion Год назад +1

      @@blah007001 High odds it was domestic and funded by the largest terrorist organization in the world

  • @leosthrivwithautism
    @leosthrivwithautism Год назад +12

    This is interesting because last month here in Maryland a small Cessna flew into a transmission tower and knocked out power to over 110k customers here in Maryland. It was a large swath of the power companies total customers here in Maryland. Took them roughly around 8 hours to get that fixed and power back up which is just as impressive. Being that this was a tower that needed to be repaired or replaced which could of taken weeks or months but they found a way to fix it in hours. Very good video!

    • @rayfridley6649
      @rayfridley6649 Год назад +5

      I'm from Bethesda, MD.. The electric utility that serves Bethesda, PEPCO, has their substations inside buildings, making these less vulnerable to attacks such as in this video. All substations need to be building enclosed.

    • @Justowner
      @Justowner Год назад +6

      @@rayfridley6649 Hell, even a non bullet resistant shell of a building would be useful. It prevents somebody from taking aimed shots at specific equipment from a distance.

    • @theabristlebroom4378
      @theabristlebroom4378 Год назад +1

      Yes, very impressive! Now, imagine that someone took down 3 towers in a row.

    • @richardcranium3579
      @richardcranium3579 Год назад +1

      @@rayfridley6649 uh no. Can’t do it every where. Nice to think of utopia and make blanket statements but that’s fantasy

    • @richardcranium3579
      @richardcranium3579 Год назад

      @@rayfridley6649 they should have been able to switch sections of line out unless it was a radial feed.
      Just come up with signs that say this is a plane free zone. Poof. Problem solved.

  • @ncdave4life
    @ncdave4life Год назад +5

    Thank you, Grady, for this video! I live less than an hour from Carthage (and less than 20 miles from the Shearon Harris nuclear plant). I've been wondering exactly what happened in Moore County. Your video answered a lot of questions that I had.
    I've just sent you an email.

  • @blackoak4978
    @blackoak4978 Год назад +9

    I can't help but think that instead of bullet resistant walls, a simple opaque screen around the complex could serve to make specific targetting like this more difficult, at a lower cost

    • @mominminnesota6648
      @mominminnesota6648 Год назад +3

      Agreed, but it should include screens positioned above the power complex; perhaps layered, to permit airflow but deny drones.

    • @Pystro
      @Pystro Год назад +1

      @@mominminnesota6648 I don't think a screen above would actually help much. Yes, you can aim in the general direction of a transformer using a drone, and seeing the impact locations can help you zero in on the lower half of the radiators.
      But that doesn't give you any real advantage over what satellite images from the 2000s and 2-3 spare mags could give you. (Unless you get all image providers to censor all substations on all versions of their images - not just the critical ones, because that would just tell an attacker whee to hit.) And if someone were to spend 40-50 seconds on 4-5 trial shots to get one on target, they could also just drive a pickup through the gate in the same time.

  • @Kyzyl_Tuva
    @Kyzyl_Tuva Год назад +7

    Grady, your videos are so awesome. Thank you so much for the work you do.

  • @andyboybennett
    @andyboybennett Год назад +6

    Very well-done video. You answered a lot of the questions that I've had about the incident.

  • @kalilay
    @kalilay Год назад +1

    straight roasting the dude while also not giving any precise instructions on how to make these attacks more effective

  • @stevenblack5157
    @stevenblack5157 Год назад +5

    Great video and channel man. Also I'm glad you brought up the fact that all the good TV channels are reality TV now. That is exactly why I won't pay for cable or any other TV service. Keep up the great work!

  • @Tenetri
    @Tenetri Год назад +34

    Media's been silent on this, great video!

    • @feuerhai557
      @feuerhai557 Год назад +4

      The video is 6 min old and 13 min long you couldnt have possible watched the whole video

    • @TriNguyen-he7xk
      @TriNguyen-he7xk Год назад +3

      almost like theres no confirmed information. ik you americans love conspiracies so just blame edp445 on this one

    • @Tenetri
      @Tenetri Год назад +3

      @feuerhai557 i watched it at 2x speed. Gotta get on my level bruh

    • @brianhirt5027
      @brianhirt5027 Год назад +3

      Yes, to prevent inspiring copycats.

    • @desupernoodle
      @desupernoodle Год назад

      @@TriNguyen-he7xk media should have at least still said something about it, then gave an update on the situation when more news come out.

  • @gpdewitt
    @gpdewitt Год назад +61

    On the subject of "ballistic hardening" it's been pointed out that sandbags would be helpful and very inexpensive. Little cost to pass on to consumers. Excellent video, as always.

    • @Alyeska23
      @Alyeska23 Год назад +17

      Sandbags are not rigid and so are not easily stacked to vertical heights. You don't want to pile up and lay the sandbags against the radiator fins. So it makes sense to build concrete walls to act as security fences and ballistic protection.

    • @nightlightabcd
      @nightlightabcd Год назад +1

      In other words, the public has to bear the cost of power grid protection because the country is loaded with gun nuts that have already staged a coup for Trump and got away with it and are not preparing for the 2024 election!

    • @letsburn00
      @letsburn00 Год назад +22

      The hard thing is that these were radiators. They are helped a lot by being out in the open. I've worked on projects where blast walls (for major accident at an oil and gas plant) caused problems for cooling.

    • @Xershade
      @Xershade Год назад +6

      @@letsburn00 Yeah that's the main problem. Would be nice to box everything up but those heat radiators REALLY like their ventilation.

    • @WAGMILLC
      @WAGMILLC Год назад

      @@nightlightabcd The gun nuts who left all their guns at home during their "coup"?