Writing Drums For Non Drummers

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  • Опубликовано: 13 янв 2025

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  • @TheMusicLab
    @TheMusicLab  4 года назад +38

    We recently reworked this video and added some extra information! Check it out here for the 2020 version: ruclips.net/video/bQLlgMJMdrA/видео.html

    • @yuripartitski7284
      @yuripartitski7284 3 года назад

      I’ll humanize your midi drums. Check links on my channel.

  • @Manas-co8wl
    @Manas-co8wl 5 лет назад +405

    Thanks man.
    1:42 - 1. Basic Kick & Snare
    2:20 - 2. Basic High Hat
    3:05 - 3. Kick Variants (Offbeat 2, 4 / +Cymbal)
    4:27 - 4. Half Time
    (Reggae, Heavy, Downbeat)
    5:27 - 5. Double Time Kick Accent (Punk, Thrash)
    6:01 - 6. Double Time Snare Accent (Common)
    7:18 - 7. Basic Fill (Tom Drum Run / + Kick)
    7:54 - 8. Complex Fill (+ Snare)
    9:00 - 9. Shakers, Cowbells, Claps, etc.

  • @amazingfizzyfiredayshappyf7168
    @amazingfizzyfiredayshappyf7168 4 года назад +213

    This was extremely helpful as someone who is just starting to song write and has never played drums before.

  • @somerandomguy802
    @somerandomguy802 7 лет назад +249

    Oh thank God I’m so terrible at writing MIDI drums

  • @carlitoxb110
    @carlitoxb110 4 года назад +37

    thank you my drummer is passed out on the floor and we need to practice

  • @alrecks619
    @alrecks619 5 лет назад +113

    keep in mind that the drummer only has two hands, unless your drummer is Marco Minnemann

    • @Ruukas9
      @Ruukas9 5 лет назад +11

      Drumers also using legs

    • @geetarguy777
      @geetarguy777 5 лет назад

      Are you sure? Rick Allen isn’t sure.
      ruclips.net/video/_rgBm3pHq3c/видео.html

    • @timbroski4487
      @timbroski4487 4 года назад

      Or Kai Hahto

  • @vladinstein
    @vladinstein 5 лет назад +57

    Dude, I love how you explained everything. Simple, really easy to understand, made me feel how fun it is (as opposed to being overwhelmed by information). Great video!

  • @rubenspoolder3567
    @rubenspoolder3567 6 лет назад +96

    Ah, so this is the reason we dont get called to play on records anymore

    • @bobbywillis1466
      @bobbywillis1466 5 лет назад +34

      Ruben Spoolder yeah I guess but real drummers will always sound superior to artificial drums that try to sound authentic

    • @dangdrjay3011
      @dangdrjay3011 4 года назад +1

      Bobby Willis fact

  • @bradleysouthard7131
    @bradleysouthard7131 5 лет назад +7

    Dude, super concise, and all the information I could have needed. Thank you! I feel like I understand more about drums and programming than I did before! :)

  • @SteveBedard
    @SteveBedard 7 лет назад +50

    The way I do my midi drum tracks is I record multiple tracks in real-time. Example, I put the kick drum on one track and perform live using a keyboard. To help me keep the beat I would strike a key for the kick drum but since the snare hasn't been recorded yet I would thump on the table. I know it's weird but it's a lot faster than drawing midi notes, i just hate drawing midi notes. Anyway it's best to have separate track for drums, it's easier when mixing. After that, i quantize to check for errors

    • @charlesurdy-barnes413
      @charlesurdy-barnes413 5 лет назад +8

      His instruction is very good. But unfortunately, my brain doesn't work that way. I can't keep up. I feel more comfortable following your procedures. I like how you thump the table. However it might sound to some it is a great tip for those who think more like you and me. Could you do a video showing your process. I seem to get it more for my ADHD learning processes

    • @fef6203
      @fef6203 4 года назад +3

      Depends on the person I suppose, but it's waaay faster literally clicking in the notes then actually performing them. Isn't that obvious? Also as sombody who has over 40 + tracks in a song having the drums confined to one track is much simpler than a separate track for each drum-piece. Mixing can always be done, but the composition remains more important.

    • @DaleStrickland
      @DaleStrickland 3 года назад

      That's exactly how I've considered doing it, except not quantizing it if I'm looking for a more human-sounding mix

  • @uniworkhorse
    @uniworkhorse 4 года назад +6

    Thank you so much man, the breaking down (no pun intended) of the fills and different styles was great!

  • @krisztian76
    @krisztian76 6 лет назад +34

    1:50 it's Billie Jean, not boring at all!

  • @Adam-zo7nz
    @Adam-zo7nz 5 лет назад +7

    Not the video I was looking for but still very interesting. Thank you.

  • @michaellennerman7844
    @michaellennerman7844 5 лет назад +4

    Holy crap thank you. I've never been good at anything to do with drums. This has helped me A LOT.

  • @CaptainSaminoz
    @CaptainSaminoz 6 лет назад +10

    I've been trying to write beats with no drumming experience for the past year and a half. I learned more in 5 minutes than in 40 videos combined. Thank you so much for this video man! :)

  • @josiahsantonil9480
    @josiahsantonil9480 5 лет назад +2

    Not a drummer but this has opened new possibilities for me! Thanks so much man! Cheers from the Philippines!

  • @Virtual-Media
    @Virtual-Media Год назад

    Struggled with this for longer than I care to mention, was well on my way just minutes after viewing this!
    You the Man!!

  • @ikarus8982
    @ikarus8982 7 лет назад +91

    "Sounds like Slaves" I'm crying I'm laughing do much. lol

    • @angerock49
      @angerock49 3 года назад

      Thanks for capitalising this, I was SO confused but the cap made me understand it's a band x)

    • @runningoutofspac9565
      @runningoutofspac9565 3 года назад

      @@angerock49 ...

  • @theonlyjoe_
    @theonlyjoe_ 6 лет назад +11

    Here’s a tip, most songs that have the best fills (imo) keep it very basic by playing around with the groove (the bass snare bit) like adding an extra snare or just a snare roll it doesn’t need to mental af, unless you’re doing punk or metal

  • @WrestlingGames101
    @WrestlingGames101 6 лет назад +4

    This is so useful man, thank you. You and Joe r the greatest!

  • @nuff6512
    @nuff6512 4 года назад +1

    This is the ultimate beginners guide to drum pattern would suggest to everyone who is starting music production
    Edit:and it is so easy to understand
    Beautifully explained

  • @Emcfree2084
    @Emcfree2084 5 лет назад +2

    Awesome tutorial

  • @davidleasterlingjr2038
    @davidleasterlingjr2038 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for dumbing this down for us non traditional drummers!

  • @davidwimble9907
    @davidwimble9907 2 года назад

    Very helpful, thanks! I'll check out the updated version.

  • @moharmon770
    @moharmon770 Год назад

    This is really helpful... Awesome stuff!

  • @Notra_bel
    @Notra_bel 2 года назад +1

    pretty clean and understandable explanation you did there.You deserved a like from me bro! thank you for this video.

  • @rickileighedwards4871
    @rickileighedwards4871 4 года назад +1

    This helped SO much! Thanks buddy!

  • @moche2303
    @moche2303 4 года назад

    I have been needing this video. INCREDIBLY helpful thank you so much.

  • @0800333pedro
    @0800333pedro 7 лет назад +29

    actually the strong beat is 1, and you could say the 3 is "half" strong. So, to give strenght to the 2 and 4 they hit the snare

  • @MicahBuzanANIMATION
    @MicahBuzanANIMATION 4 года назад

    You're inspiring me to think about drums in a different way.

  • @mydartpen
    @mydartpen 4 года назад +1

    Amazing very well done thankyou

  • @funkyjones
    @funkyjones 4 года назад

    One of the best and simplest explanations of half-time I've heard.

  • @thechoripankiller
    @thechoripankiller 4 года назад +2

    1:42 "so that sounds a little bit idk B O R I N G"
    Michael Jackson: Are you messing with me buddy?

  • @ikarus8982
    @ikarus8982 7 лет назад +1

    A lot of hip-hop is half time, it also makes it a lot easier to edit smaller areas of a song.

  • @everBlossom9800
    @everBlossom9800 7 месяцев назад

    thnak you
    i will use this knowledge to create the best music featuring the rwe theme

  • @ridhomblr
    @ridhomblr 4 года назад +1

    Thank you! this will really help and improve on my music

  • @abdulabad3733
    @abdulabad3733 6 лет назад +1

    Very helpful - need to track mock drums for my band until we get a drummer. Thank you!

  • @williambrackett8229
    @williambrackett8229 3 года назад

    Really helpful!!!!! Ty!!!!!

  • @julieosang9077
    @julieosang9077 4 года назад

    I would like to have lessons on playing the trumpet and the flute. Thank you

  • @laurengoldsings
    @laurengoldsings 3 года назад

    SO helpful and clear thank you!!

  • @Petsublak
    @Petsublak 5 лет назад +1

    Brilliant, great info. Proper helped us out. Tks👍

  • @ultrio325
    @ultrio325 3 года назад

    Thou art mine saviore!

  • @sienasutherland5192
    @sienasutherland5192 5 лет назад +2

    This video is so helpful, thank you!!

  • @eat-study
    @eat-study 3 года назад

    1. hi hat fill
    2. kick drum variation
    3. half time 3:40
    4. double time

  • @felipemunhoz8230
    @felipemunhoz8230 2 года назад

    great vid bro, but i'm still strugling to get that 16th kinda soul natural swing. Please, can you make a video about that??

  • @amimaster
    @amimaster 3 года назад

    1:12 except for when you're in Italy. They accent all the beats for unknown reasons.

  • @alicemaymusix
    @alicemaymusix 4 года назад

    oh my god I so needed this! thank you :) xx

  • @djpoole7015
    @djpoole7015 4 года назад

    Thank you this helped so much!!!

  • @ToastedCigar
    @ToastedCigar 5 лет назад +4

    Actually, in Western music beats 1 and 3 are accented in 4/4 -time music. Beats 2 and 4 just feel accented because that's where the snare usually hits.

  • @heymusiclovers8361
    @heymusiclovers8361 4 года назад

    Thank you very much!! Love it!!

  • @penguinmonk7661
    @penguinmonk7661 2 года назад

    Thank you very much, this was super helpfull :3

  • @eoinmurphy5757
    @eoinmurphy5757 3 года назад

    very helpful, well done

  • @ecocallingvideos
    @ecocallingvideos Год назад

    Name of the program to create the beats?

  • @juliemusicar
    @juliemusicar 3 года назад

    so helpful thank youuu

  • @EduardoGaitan
    @EduardoGaitan 3 года назад

    Do i need to have a MIDI to do this type of things just wanting to spice up my covers

    • @thomasmoore7013
      @thomasmoore7013 3 года назад

      Well, "a MIDI" isn't a singular thing. There are digital instruments which are controlled either by a MIDI controller (such as an electric keyboard) or directly by your DAW (Digital Audio Workstation). So in order to make a MIDI drum beat you would at least need the digital instrument, and possibly a MIDI controller depending on whether you wanted to play the part yourself or just draw it into the track. So if your question was "Do I need a MIDI controller" then the answer is: no, as long as you have a digital instrument and a DAW to put it in.

    • @EduardoGaitan
      @EduardoGaitan 3 года назад

      @@thomasmoore7013 Got it so i need this kind of software and also a hardware aswell ¿maybe my current ketboard?

    • @TheMusicLab
      @TheMusicLab  3 года назад

      Your current keyboard might work, but you can just draw it in with a mouse in any DAW (digital audio workstation)

  • @F90sTeenanger
    @F90sTeenanger 2 года назад

    What is the name of program tha he use in video?

  • @peksn
    @peksn 4 года назад

    Thank you for the video! It really helped me out!

  • @gymnopedist6211
    @gymnopedist6211 2 года назад

    Very helpful. What VST library did you use for the drums?

  • @CustodianVirgil
    @CustodianVirgil 2 года назад

    I love the video. Do you have anything in terms of how it's timed correctly?

  • @thegreatwhiterainbow4277
    @thegreatwhiterainbow4277 4 года назад +1

    Youre guiding me through my college course rn 😂😂 thank you

  • @godz2928
    @godz2928 Год назад

    Hi what app/program are you using on this video? As a beginner i think its important to point out as well what program you use thank you

  • @oliberrhy2391
    @oliberrhy2391 5 лет назад

    Thank you so much, this will be so useful. Now i'll be able to spice up my drum beats!

  • @xname662
    @xname662 2 года назад

    Thanks

  • @Ludix147
    @Ludix147 7 лет назад +2

    There are actually some new tips in there for me :D

  • @RGE_Music
    @RGE_Music 3 года назад

    learned so much

  • @PascalJeanty9183
    @PascalJeanty9183 4 года назад

    Good work! You deserved that blue👍

  • @bens6423
    @bens6423 3 года назад

    what program is this? i need to make some drum beats. what other programs are out there that are free?

  • @casertanick
    @casertanick 7 лет назад +11

    I am a drummer but I can't record drums because of quality, so I need to use MIDI. I just can't find a good free Windows program

    • @mae-maehan6703
      @mae-maehan6703 7 лет назад

      Nick's Good Universe you can maybe try using notation software like noteflight or musescore (which are both free). the samples might sound not great, but I guess that's better than nothing lol

    • @jwcorcoran9838
      @jwcorcoran9838 7 лет назад +3

      Download Kontakt Player (free). Then download GGD Lite (free), and load it up in Kontakt

    • @barto1035
      @barto1035 6 лет назад

      I use TuxGuitar from here; sourceforge.net/projects/tuxguitar/

    • @codyt014
      @codyt014 6 лет назад +3

      Mk powerdrums arent bad

    • @SeleDreams
      @SeleDreams 6 лет назад +2

      there's Hydrogen if you only want drums, else there's cakewalk by bandlab and LMMS

  • @remshawmusiek7565
    @remshawmusiek7565 3 года назад

    Helpful 👍🏽👌🏽

  • @cwbyallstar9545
    @cwbyallstar9545 5 лет назад +1

    ily

  • @TheRoadrunnerguy
    @TheRoadrunnerguy 5 лет назад

    Sooooooo helpful. You’re the man

  • @ma888u
    @ma888u 5 лет назад

    Thank you!!

  • @lloydrummell2509
    @lloydrummell2509 5 лет назад

    Great video, thanks!

  • @NotALizardPerson69
    @NotALizardPerson69 7 лет назад +5

    What DAW are u using? Is there any good free software that u know of?

    • @TheMusicLab
      @TheMusicLab  7 лет назад

      Logic X Pro! Garageband is decent! I haven't used any others to be able to comment on them!

    • @teamsuperminecraft
      @teamsuperminecraft 7 лет назад

      MrRingo123 studio one prime is really good but doesn't have many plugins and you can't buy any until u upgrade the program but it has many instruments

    • @cidshroom
      @cidshroom 7 лет назад +2

      Get Reaper, the trial never expires, it just shows you a 5 second splash box forever. It's got great compatibility so your VST, VST2, VST3, etc. will work. It's simpler than most DAW's and more powerful

    • @borjonx
      @borjonx 6 лет назад

      Ableton Live is insanely cool & powerful. I'm not a musician, but love playing around - the lite version of Live is only $100 and well worth it. A free version also comes with several $100 midi keyboard/pad combos.

    • @ta-ya-music
      @ta-ya-music 6 лет назад

      crack fl studio if u want I have a portable version of it.

  • @Sigmaairav
    @Sigmaairav 2 года назад

    I think when it comes to writing drum parts, it is my weak point. I can produce polyrhythms and repeatable complex grooves however, fills are something I have not done very often as I don't fully comprehend their utility in musical narrative. I struggle to ascertain what form the paintbrushes that are drum fills give to the overall painting of music.

    • @TheMusicLab
      @TheMusicLab  2 года назад +2

      I see drum fills as a use for transitions... If you want to go from one section to another you can use a fill to build to that change and really emphasize the new section arriving! ... That how I have always viewed them anyway

  • @georgeabraham7256
    @georgeabraham7256 Год назад

    What count do cymbal crashes go? I think its weird to think about it because its on the one?.. it twists the brain because its an ending sound on a start.. Id like to hear someone elses approch or solution..

  • @Mike_the_Barbarian
    @Mike_the_Barbarian 7 лет назад +1

    Nice! Can you share the midi files with us ? Obviously not song ready but a fun starting point.

    • @TheMusicLab
      @TheMusicLab  7 лет назад +2

      You should be able to recreate any of these beats within a minute! On any software!

  • @weibrot8694
    @weibrot8694 3 года назад

    Hey! Thank you so much man, helped me a freakin LOT and btw im wondering how the program is called

    • @TheMusicLab
      @TheMusicLab  3 года назад +1

      This is Logic Pro X! Glad you liked the video :)

    • @weibrot8694
      @weibrot8694 3 года назад

      @@TheMusicLab thank you so much :D

  • @mscbeats5846
    @mscbeats5846 6 лет назад

    Could you please do a video like this but for hip-hop drums ? thanks x

    • @TheMusicLab
      @TheMusicLab  6 лет назад +1

      It the exact same method! You just use different samples!

    • @SynthApprentice
      @SynthApprentice 5 лет назад

      Use 808 samples, and put the kick just off the 3.

  • @blackthovenproductions4561
    @blackthovenproductions4561 7 лет назад +1

    what about the call and answer. I think that this is the most important when programming drum.

    • @TheMusicLab
      @TheMusicLab  7 лет назад

      Call and a answer tends to mean using multiple instruments and is a technique normally used for counter melodies. What do you mean?

    • @blackthovenproductions4561
      @blackthovenproductions4561 7 лет назад

      What i mean is that those drums dont have any change over the time.

    • @blackthovenproductions4561
      @blackthovenproductions4561 7 лет назад

      ruclips.net/video/7zwXEFXz-fc/видео.html

    • @TheMusicLab
      @TheMusicLab  7 лет назад

      This only really applies to percussive instruments used in 'Samba' and African drumming, not a drum kit, used in popular rock and pop.

  • @Echoxxx
    @Echoxxx 5 лет назад

    very helpful, thank you!!

  • @momins-topic4470
    @momins-topic4470 4 года назад

    Very usefull

  • @ClearAdventure
    @ClearAdventure 3 года назад

    What drum program software are you using, brother? I want something like that where I can just mouse click where I want the next hit! I would _really_ appreciate an answer, thank you!!

    • @TheMusicLab
      @TheMusicLab  3 года назад +1

      Every single DAW will let you do that! It's called midi, and every DAW will let you 'draw midi'. The specific DAW I'm using is Logic Pro X, but you could use: Ableton Live, Pro Tools, Reaper etc

    • @ClearAdventure
      @ClearAdventure 3 года назад

      @@TheMusicLab I have Reaper, I know about midi and DAWS, my question was what drum software you are using?

    • @TheMusicLab
      @TheMusicLab  3 года назад +2

      Ah, I see! .. The drum software in this video is built into Logic, but for Reaper I use the free SSD5 drum sampler

    • @ClearAdventure
      @ClearAdventure 3 года назад

      @@TheMusicLab Awesome, thank you, brother! :-D

    • @TheMusicLab
      @TheMusicLab  3 года назад +1

      No worries!

  • @jitk1
    @jitk1 6 лет назад +8

    you can have claps...I have the clap

    • @bobbywillis1466
      @bobbywillis1466 5 лет назад

      Thesummerstriangle I love adding some clap claps

  • @sobirjonismailov3823
    @sobirjonismailov3823 5 лет назад

    vey useful. thanks

  • @Distracted_Person
    @Distracted_Person 3 года назад

    What software program is he using

    • @tub3st3ak
      @tub3st3ak 3 года назад +1

      SSD (Steven Slate Drums)

  • @khonhakmia
    @khonhakmia 6 лет назад

    Yes I like it, your video, but I need your software to try and need to follow you up

    • @bobbywillis1466
      @bobbywillis1466 5 лет назад +1

      ບ້ານລາວ ສະຕູດີໂອ idk if you still need a software or not but GarageBand for iOS or Mac is free and Reaper is free for Windows PCs. I recommend GarageBand

  • @Marek_Vasilev
    @Marek_Vasilev 5 лет назад +14

    You are pretty confusing to listen to, not gonna lie, but your examples were good, so cheers mate! c:

  • @ajthepoppunkkid8415
    @ajthepoppunkkid8415 7 лет назад

    Are you gonna do any more Reviews episodes?

    • @TheMusicLab
      @TheMusicLab  7 лет назад

      Yep! We've just taken a little break!

  • @gordianknot6867
    @gordianknot6867 Год назад

    Creedence clearwater crying ay the start of this video 🥲

  • @maxmoller4200
    @maxmoller4200 6 лет назад

    What software do you use?

  • @ThisisNukezZ
    @ThisisNukezZ 6 лет назад +1

    thanks m8 that is exactly what i was searching for, should get more views tho great for beginners in beat producing

  • @RealJamesSmith
    @RealJamesSmith 7 лет назад

    A link where I can access this with Ableton?

    • @TheMusicLab
      @TheMusicLab  7 лет назад

      You should be able to create a midi track, of which you can set the instrument to be the midi drum kit, then create an event on the timeline, double click on it and you should be good to go!

  • @godofredomalparido
    @godofredomalparido 4 года назад

    what app are you using?

  • @nicolasboisvert2737
    @nicolasboisvert2737 6 лет назад

    is the logicial free?

  • @danmiley8904
    @danmiley8904 7 лет назад +1

    What programme do you use ?

  • @leprisonnier7957
    @leprisonnier7957 4 года назад

    All that without a single note

  • @kdakan
    @kdakan 14 дней назад

    This covers about 5% of the thing. For more, go to drumeo or alternate channels and watch drummers teach how to play the drums and create drum parts.

  • @SAZIZMUSIC
    @SAZIZMUSIC 5 лет назад

    Very informative video. Thank you very much :-)

  • @ErikaMariTakahashi
    @ErikaMariTakahashi 4 года назад

    metronome is the key!
    i learned to play instrument using only metronome, Chords, Melodies and theories on my own.
    i don't know why even someone taught me how to play guitar, piano or drums, still can't learn, but instead i only learn and master it on my own! LOL.
    maybe something's wrong with me!

    • @TheMusicLab
      @TheMusicLab  4 года назад

      I worry you didn't actually watch the video, as we aren't talking about playing drums. Good on you for teaching yourself though!

    • @ErikaMariTakahashi
      @ErikaMariTakahashi 4 года назад

      @@TheMusicLab well i actually listen! i just comment on my own but thanks btw. i just came here accidentally!
      what Daw did you use?