@@EnglishMartialArts you're pretty funny. In all seriousness though I just wanted to thank you for your videos. I've learned a lot from you in the last few years, especially on pugilism. I just wish there was someone around here with which to practice.
Due to the fact that television didn’t exist at this time, we depend on great story telling like this to make sure legends don’t fade away. Thank you sir. Very little is commonly known about boxing in the pugilistic era. Keep doing your thing. 👍🏻
My Uncle Moses Wasserman was a famous Boxer that also came from East End and was also Jewish. He fought for the Mile End club in the 1930s. His Boxing name was Moe Moss and his nickname was the Hebrew.
Yep, pretty much. Arguably Jackson had more ability as well. He was undoubteslybthe most respected fighter of the time, even though we know little of him now.
Mendonza historicly speaking was not small the average height at the time was 5'6 to 5'7 . But granted that most champions were large heavy weight man...
Fantastic video, wonderful storytelling. I feel like there's some poetic tragedy to Mendoza's career, it starting with him rebelling against his father's hatred of fighting for sport, and his loss of the championship being a literal pummelling from a man who hated fighting for sport.
Yeah, there's a certain tragic irony there. Kinda encapsulates life as a whole. You fight and struggle to get where you are and it all gets taken away by someone who didn't even really want it in the first place.
@@markbroughtonmusic There is such a lot we don't know about him. I have my suspicions, but we really don't know. My long term goal is to write a book on him, he was so incredibly well respected, and so influential at the time, yet so unknown now. A real enigma of a man.
As one of my students used to point out to anyone who thought less of him because I appeared to beat him with relative ease, "A good big un will beat a good little un most of the time". "Most of the time" referred to the one time that he caught me beautifully in a recumbent guillotine, wrapped my legs up and squeezed until I was forced to submit. Playing with people his own size, he wiped the floor with an Olympic silver medallist in Judo - although he did unknowingly use a technique banned by the Kodokan..
If you have to choose between strength and skill choose skill, however, the most dangerous men have both. Never assume a larger man will be the slower man.
Yes I agree to use skill over strength but also remember one of those skills is to know how to read your opponent's ability. Before you make a move. That means you know how to counter their moves by reading them before they act .
I'm no scientist, but I'm pretty sure you can't read a man's movements before you see his movements to read them... Without prior knowledge of his actual skills and tendencies, you'd be making an educated guess at best.
Tons of respect for both fighters. As a Jew and as a martial arts fun and practicioner, Daniel Mendoza is one of my heros that inspired me. He lost to a really great fighter and gentleman, as he indeed recognized. He finally got his match. Very few champions retired undefeated and Mendoza was no exception. Thank you for the very interesting video!
"The world's slowest series", eh? Good thing I have a decent memory. These stories just cement my thought on the old time prizefighters being some of the toughest bastards to ever walk the Earth. It's a double-edged sword, the toughest people always get the most wrecked and thrashed before they get help. If they get help.
We can infer a lot if the drawings & paintings are to be believed. Along with obvious movement back, forth, & side to side, it appears as though they used their legs & waist as a sort of mobile platform to quickly get out of danger. To get what I'm saying, take a medium width stance & then shift forward over the front foot & then over the back foot. Use your waist to shift the weight. Look at the wide stances in the drawings. It looks like their stepping & shifting like I said.
The Canadian boxer Tommy Burns was a medium weight in the heavyweight division. He was 5' 7'' the smallest heavyweight world champion. I heard from Arthur Saxon's book (The Development of Physical Power) that Burns trained by hitting a heavy bag with light weights. Tommy lost to Jack Johnson and there is old footage of the match. I would say he got his Asskicked The problem was that Jack Johnson was better. Its not how hard you get your asskicked its about not letting it bother you. Another Great Asskicking Video Good Work!
Daniel Mendoza is my great great great grandfather. Please contact me if you’re interested to know what we discovered about him when we did the family tree.
This story perfectly encapsulates the advice my father gave me when I was a young tearaway and started getting into a few scrapes. "Be careful son, there's always someone bigger and harder".
as a lifelong martial arts practitioner its refreshing to hear of the pre combat sport days. i really like your work! subbed. although im a vodka, not a whiskey guy haha.
That was excellent. Well researched and excellently delivered. While nobody was cutting way the way modern fighters do (unless they were like Tom Cribb, way out of shape before a bout) was there any sense of pre-fight training camps? The stories that have come down of people like the Game Chicken seem to indicate that training consisted of gin and hangovers but again going back to Cribb and his training before the second Molineaux fight the idea of some level of training was obviously known. How widespread was it. Maybe an idea for a video.
So Daniel Mendoza was kinda like the early Conor McGregor of his day? I'm firmly convinced McGregor's primary asset early in his career was just being so arrogant and sure of himself. Yes, he had amazing skills, ridiculous strength. But that surety in himself really seems like it was his main strength.
Would be great to have a spar with a clone of mendoza. Since boxing still had a decent amount of grappling, I wonder if he'd be able to stop a double leg
If your knee hit the ground on your way in you'd be disqualified for taking a fall. And later on taking hold below the waist was banned too. You'd need to be looking at Greco more than Freestyle.
@@EnglishMartialArts I just meant i wondered if their experience grappling would be enough to let them stop takedowns they weren't used to, assuming they weren't from someone really good.
If we haven't yet, I think we should like to hear your favorite fight story and why it is your favorite. Personally, I think it must be the Great Hobnob Tussle, but that, of course, was not a sanctioned affair.
Thanks. That's a fascinating story. You read it so well, I felt like a Primary School kid at Story Time. Do you think it's possible that any of the fighting styles of the past will ever come back into fashion? Could they be re-purposed for today's boxing ring?
Those old time fighters were as tough as and were more skillful than they are given. credit for.The ring encylopedia gives great insight into these old timers.As a side note Peter Sellers the great comedian claimed he was related to Mendoza
@@EnglishMartialArts your welcome brother. I'd train with you if I lived across the pond. I think we would learn a lot. Much like yourself I like history, the strategies & the techniques of fighting. Many of them are intellectually challenging to figure out & they're ingenious techniques.
@@EnglishMartialArts Lol, I doubt if you come close to my little podunk town. "Podunk" is slang for backwards. I didn't know if you knew or not so I explained. It's pronounced poe-dunk as in edgar alan poe. Maybe you guys use that word too I don't know.
I wonder what his style would look like? In my mind it looks like Dominick Cruz's movement, moves well, counters well, uses openings to launch long overhands and hooks while his opponent overextendeds. Cruz himself is a Bantamweight who started fighting when the lightest MMA class was 155 (meaning people cut weight to make that, so probably like 170-180lbs) and Cruz walked around at about 143lbs, so the size difference existed as well.
Bravo ladd; what a forceful narrative you gave. For the brief moment I envision the battle of real men. I imagine the sounds of the crowd. Thank you for the joy you brought an elderly man.😁👍
Very much my ladd. Thank you for sharing your labours of love. I to in my youth was quite pugilist. So your work brings too my mind of pleasant memories of youth.👍👍👍
The win streaks of these figures are fairly fascinating. How often had Mendoza lost before fighting Jackson? As he says he avenged his all losses, there must have been a few L's on his record. The modern fight businesss in the west often puts a huge amount of weight on having a perfect record, but it strikes me that classical pugilists fought often and many of them weren't too picky about their foe, much like we see in Thailand where losses are expected on a fighter's record because of the sheer amount of fights they have. Was there a similar view in the 18th and early 19th centuries?
Mendoza definitely had a few losses on his record when he fought Jackson, IIRC he lost twice to Humphries before finally beating him good and proper, and once to Tom Tyne.
Hi Oz, are you familiar with Robert E. Howard's boxing stories? Coming from the author of Conan the Barbarian, although fictional, they probably have the level of epicness that this channel requires :D I think there is a book called "Waterfront Fists and other stories" that has all of them.
Quick question....whenever I watch this video (or your other videos on him), I think of McBain from the Simpsons screaming "Mendoza!!!". Have you ever seen what I am speaking of? Regardless, great video!!
I do think the size difference Mendoza went against are a bit overstated. His most famous victories basically all came against guys around his size like Humphries and the criminally underappreciated Will Ward.
Humphries was described as being several inches taller than Mendoza and "a herculean gladiator" while Mendoza was described as having "weak loins" when the pair met at Odiham. Warr had the advantage of "2 inches and half a stone in weight" He fought Fitzgerald who had 4 inches and 14 lbs on him. Admittedly none of them were giants, but the writers of the day were keen to point out he was small, so why should we disagree?
Great little series. However......I must bring you to task. You are referencing English fighters in the beautiful age of manly pugilistic arts, so would it not be more apt to have “arse” kickings?
I was wonder if you had an opinion of the men put into the IBHOF as pioneers? Wondering why they have been favoring Americans Tom Hyer Paddy Ryan etc, when good men with plenty more fights like Ned Neale, Ned Turner or even Bishop Sharpe are on the outside. I feel the American prize ring should have its own category due to the rampant cheating (knife and gunplay from outside the 24 foot ring) influencing the outcome. Enjoyed the video keep it up.
Very interesting, this subject about Mendonza. Mendonza 's Era when Boxeurs fought without limit of Rounds !.... Really Hard at that time. Ok,now for safety and for better Boxing there are Rules and 12 ir 15 Rounds in a Match. And each Round with 3 minutes lasting. Mendonza made Boxing History by his Thecnique, by his incredible Skills in his XVIII the Century Era. Mendonza with about 75 Kgs Height, however, he was A GREAT CHAMP DURING ABOUT 40 YEARS AS A HEAVYWEIGHT WORLD CHAMP (HE LEFT HIS CAREER WHEN HE WAS 56 OR 57 YEARS OLD) ! AMAZING.
I've had to deal with a little guy that could throw some serious blows...I'm well over 6ft tall. I got into a bloody fight with some guy that was half a foot shorter than me.... 😱 OMG he has fast AF...and accurate....I could not believe the combos he was connecting with....3 at a time. They didn't hurt much...but the sheer volume of blows was scary...I started getting dizzy 😵 it was looking grim. I managed to get one good haymaker in, and the fight ended in a stalemate. It's been over 20 years now, and I'll never forget that little dude. Never underestimate someone because of how small they are...it could cost you big time! Big people get concussions just as fast as little people lol 🤣 ...and chances are...the smaller, faster, more nimble fighter can connect first....just something I picked up along the way.
It is well recorded that the East End Jews were Great Boxers.. Mendoza was Famous.. and as of the day.. there was no tv or radio.. so it was difficult to be known..and records were sketchy.. but what we do know.. is that bouts went on for a long time.. and were brutal.. that’s why regulations had to come in.. hence the Marquis of Queensberry.. who in watching an illegal bout on his land.. liked what he saw.. but was appalled at the conditions .. and introduced rules and times between rounds.. the bouts then were not as fast as today’s fights.. it’s just that more fighting is crammed in.. and a time target is set .. generally 30 minutes of fighting in between stoppages.. now if you’ve ever tried to hit a punchbag.. for one minute solid.. you will know..,how fit Boxers are.. it is by far a very effective form of self defence..and should never be taken lightly.. for me.. the Greatest if them all.. had to be Jack Johnson.. the most natural and gifted pugilist of them all..☝️..thankyou.
Better or bigger? 4 inches and 40 pounds difference. In their prime, Mayweather is a better technical boxer than Tyson but Tyson would win because of the size difference. Size does matter. This is why there are weight classes.
John Jackson, besides being bigger and stronger than Daniel Mendoza, was probably fresher and healthier because of not having the same extensive fight career, and hard fights, that Mendoza had.
If he is a natural 160lbs now he would fight at 145 or even 135 with a good diet and probably less fat. Think about it He was probably smaller than McGregor
Absolutely. You can reasonably look to cut 15-20 lbs without it killing you. And you can reasonably expect to lose 10 pounds during a pre fight camp. So yeah, 135 is perfectly within reach if you walk around at 160.
@@EnglishMartialArts so that fight was more like might mouse v JDS or something like that. That was some Pride lavel of mismatch, great entertainment though No wonder the result and that shows how though Mendoza was
Holy shit this was a good video. Can’t wait for the next one
Glad you enjoyed it!
That's the world slowest series. Next one will be probably up in just a couple of years
@@bernhardjordan9200 One every two years like clockwork!
@@EnglishMartialArts I'll be waiting, that's for sure
@@EnglishMartialArts you're pretty funny. In all seriousness though I just wanted to thank you for your videos. I've learned a lot from you in the last few years, especially on pugilism. I just wish there was someone around here with which to practice.
Due to the fact that television didn’t exist at this time, we depend on great story telling like this to make sure legends don’t fade away. Thank you sir. Very little is commonly known about boxing in the pugilistic era. Keep doing your thing. 👍🏻
Thank you!
Very true , imagine trying to tell someone the story of the thrilla in manilla, thank god for technology
@@dannyyy97 precisely
My Uncle Moses Wasserman was a famous Boxer that also came from East End and was also Jewish. He fought for the Mile End club in the 1930s. His Boxing name was Moe Moss and his nickname was the Hebrew.
Sir, Mr Mendoza's statement about the quality of Mr Jackson shows the class of a true champion. Very well done Mr Mendoza. Good video, thank-you.
Gosh Ur a knob
@@johnbull3443 I am not English, so I Googled this one. Insult or playful insult? Doesn't really matter I guess, just curious.
Good to see you back son, excellent music choice for the outro
So Mendoza found a guy with the speed and skill to match him but with a size and power advantage
Yep, pretty much. Arguably Jackson had more ability as well. He was undoubteslybthe most respected fighter of the time, even though we know little of him now.
That's right Koko.
That's why we have weight divisions 😊.
The good big man beats the good little man
That’s predictable
Life's battles don't always go to the stronger or faster man. But sooner or later the man who wins, is the man who thinks he can.
Mendonza historicly speaking was not small the average height at the time was 5'6 to 5'7 .
But granted that most champions were large heavy weight man...
Fantastic video, wonderful storytelling.
I feel like there's some poetic tragedy to Mendoza's career, it starting with him rebelling against his father's hatred of fighting for sport, and his loss of the championship being a literal pummelling from a man who hated fighting for sport.
Yeah, there's a certain tragic irony there. Kinda encapsulates life as a whole. You fight and struggle to get where you are and it all gets taken away by someone who didn't even really want it in the first place.
@@EnglishMartialArts so why didn't Johnson like fighting? How did he handle himself that he could have such respect while refusing to fight?
@@markbroughtonmusic There is such a lot we don't know about him. I have my suspicions, but we really don't know. My long term goal is to write a book on him, he was so incredibly well respected, and so influential at the time, yet so unknown now. A real enigma of a man.
Mendoza, what a warrior. he rose up even after the brutal beating, and he gave credit where the credit was due.
Yes, truly a role model for any fighter.
As one of my students used to point out to anyone who thought less of him because I appeared to beat him with relative ease, "A good big un will beat a good little un most of the time".
"Most of the time" referred to the one time that he caught me beautifully in a recumbent guillotine, wrapped my legs up and squeezed until I was forced to submit.
Playing with people his own size, he wiped the floor with an Olympic silver medallist in Judo - although he did unknowingly use a technique banned by the Kodokan..
If you have to choose between strength and skill choose skill, however, the most dangerous men have both. Never assume a larger man will be the slower man.
Yes I agree to use skill over strength but also remember one of those skills is to know how to read your opponent's ability. Before you make a move. That means you know how to counter their moves by reading them before they act .
Very true
I'm no scientist, but I'm pretty sure you can't read a man's movements before you see his movements to read them... Without prior knowledge of his actual skills and tendencies, you'd be making an educated guess at best.
Tons of respect for both fighters. As a Jew and as a martial arts fun and practicioner, Daniel Mendoza is one of my heros that inspired me. He lost to a really great fighter and gentleman, as he indeed recognized. He finally got his match. Very few champions retired undefeated and Mendoza was no exception. Thank you for the very interesting video!
He was quite a fighter that's for sure!
Great story’s,that is my grandpas mother’s great great uncle who I was named after. It’s amazing what he was capable of and how he is in my blood.
"The world's slowest series", eh? Good thing I have a decent memory. These stories just cement my thought on the old time prizefighters being some of the toughest bastards to ever walk the Earth. It's a double-edged sword, the toughest people always get the most wrecked and thrashed before they get help. If they get help.
Agree 100%!
Lad this bout ranks as one of the best in its era. Kudos! It is always a pleasure to view your videos. God bless!
It's a real shame we can never witness these fights, I'd love to see how they move and the technique they'd display
Me too!
We can infer a lot if the drawings & paintings are to be believed. Along with obvious movement back, forth, & side to side, it appears as though they used their legs & waist as a sort of mobile platform to quickly get out of danger. To get what I'm saying, take a medium width stance & then shift forward over the front foot & then over the back foot. Use your waist to shift the weight.
Look at the wide stances in the drawings. It looks like their stepping & shifting like I said.
@@realherbalism1017 Thomas Fewtrell describes the characteristics of a lot of the famous boxers in his book.
@@EnglishMartialArts I'm going to see if I can find a PDF of Fewtrell's books so I can see.
@@realherbalism1017 check out the library at sirwilliamhope.org
The Canadian boxer Tommy Burns was a medium weight in the heavyweight division. He was 5' 7'' the smallest heavyweight world champion. I heard from Arthur Saxon's book (The Development of Physical Power) that Burns trained by hitting a heavy bag with light weights. Tommy lost to Jack Johnson and there is old footage of the match. I would say he got his Asskicked The problem was that Jack Johnson was better. Its not how hard you get your asskicked its about not letting it bother you.
Another Great Asskicking Video Good Work!
These are stories that are best told in a country pub on a winters night.i could listen to them all night
Lol, we'd make quire a team then because I can bang on about it for hours! 😁
Daniel Mendoza is my great great great grandfather. Please contact me if you’re interested to know what we discovered about him when we did the family tree.
I'd love that!
@@EnglishMartialArts drop me a direct message
@@EnglishMartialArts can you do DM’s in RUclips? Otherwise Facebook messenger is an option
@@thebud2086 of you go to my channel homepage upu shod be able to see an email address, I don't really use Facebook. Haven't for years.
'Crazy as a sack of Badgers' ... sounds like a group of Paras on the weekend.
Or a weekday;).
Any day containing the letter “d”
Just found this channel. You Sir, are an excellent narrator. I could listen to this for ages. Awesome.
Thank you!
This story perfectly encapsulates the advice my father gave me when I was a young tearaway and started getting into a few scrapes. "Be careful son, there's always someone bigger and harder".
as a lifelong martial arts practitioner its refreshing to hear of the pre combat sport days. i really like your work! subbed. although im a vodka, not a whiskey guy haha.
Thanks for the sub! I've been branching out a bit from Whisky recently, but haven't made it to Vodka yet...
Just found this channel, and you just found a new subscriber. Thanks for the content, and looking forward to watch the rest.
Welcome on board! Thanks for the sub.
That was excellent.
Well researched and excellently delivered.
While nobody was cutting way the way modern fighters do (unless they were like Tom Cribb, way out of shape before a bout) was there any sense of pre-fight training camps? The stories that have come down of people like the Game Chicken seem to indicate that training consisted of gin and hangovers but again going back to Cribb and his training before the second Molineaux fight the idea of some level of training was obviously known. How widespread was it. Maybe an idea for a video.
There are a few people that talk about pre fight training. Definitely worth a video!
Mendoza was like BJ Penn fighting at HW like he done to Machida or even more
So Daniel Mendoza was kinda like the early Conor McGregor of his day?
I'm firmly convinced McGregor's primary asset early in his career was just being so arrogant and sure of himself. Yes, he had amazing skills, ridiculous strength. But that surety in himself really seems like it was his main strength.
Yes, pretty much!
Mcgregor also very skilled and learns from mistakes , i believe we see a stronger version in hisnext bot
Except Connor fights similar size fighters. I'd say he was not Ali than Connor.
Great information thanks! Have you thought about getting an illustrator?
Would be great to have a spar with a clone of mendoza.
Since boxing still had a decent amount of grappling, I wonder if he'd be able to stop a double leg
Or any of the boxers back then
If your knee hit the ground on your way in you'd be disqualified for taking a fall. And later on taking hold below the waist was banned too.
You'd need to be looking at Greco more than Freestyle.
@@EnglishMartialArts I just meant i wondered if their experience grappling would be enough to let them stop takedowns they weren't used to, assuming they weren't from someone really good.
If we haven't yet, I think we should like to hear your favorite fight story and why it is your favorite. Personally, I think it must be the Great Hobnob Tussle, but that, of course, was not a sanctioned affair.
That testimonial from Mendoza must've hit him hard when he first realized it.
Yeah, it must have been a bit of a harsh lesson.
Thanks. That's a fascinating story. You read it so well, I felt like a Primary School kid at Story Time. Do you think it's possible that any of the fighting styles of the past will ever come back into fashion? Could they be re-purposed for today's boxing ring?
I very much doubt they'll come back, outside of the very niche groups that specifically study them that is.
Thanks for the kind words.
Those old time fighters were as tough as and were more skillful than they are given. credit for.The ring encylopedia gives great insight into these old timers.As a side note Peter Sellers the great comedian claimed he was related to Mendoza
I've heard a lot of folk talk about Sellars, including one or two who claim distant relations themselves.
Your channel is underrated bro.
Thank you.
So when are the technique videos where you describe a technique and we try and do it coming? I love Daniel Mendoza.
Good point! I definitely hadn't forgotten...
Great video! Well done! A great contribution to the preservation of the history to “the Sweet science”
Thank you!
Are there any movies that do realistic re-enactments of this old time boxing style?
Not many sadly. But it's definitely worth exploring in a future video.
Fantastic video!!
Always appreciate your work!
Thank you!
Great video! I was on the edge of my seat. I’m subscribed
Thank you. Welcome on board!
Well said, story had me almost seeing myself right there 👏
Thank you!
I wish we could really see what boxing looked like in that era
your voice is perfect for this narrating stuff
Great conversation. Daniel Mendoza was a. Great Jewish fighter. Thanks for sharing.
He was indeed!
Chosen by God no less 😂
I wondered where the name was from.It sounds Spanish.Was he Sephardic Jewish?
@xdr1000 Thank you.
I just wanted to say that I absolutely love your videos.
Thank you!
@@EnglishMartialArts your welcome brother. I'd train with you if I lived across the pond. I think we would learn a lot. Much like yourself I like history, the strategies & the techniques of fighting. Many of them are intellectually challenging to figure out & they're ingenious techniques.
@@realherbalism1017 well I've been over to the States and taught a few times, so I wouldn't rule it out!
@@EnglishMartialArts Lol, I doubt if you come close to my little podunk town. "Podunk" is slang for backwards. I didn't know if you knew or not so I explained. It's pronounced poe-dunk as in edgar alan poe. Maybe you guys use that word too I don't know.
@@realherbalism1017 not a word I've come across before. Teaching wise it was all in the Midwest. Where are you?
Just discovered this......great story
Great listening to all this stuff .....
It would be really cool if you did a video on the old boxing and wrestling books you own. Which are the most interesting/must read?
I've been planning a run through the whole collection. But there are a couple that seem to be missing!
This is VERY cool!! A nice break from contemporary stuff!!!
Thank you!
That was a great video, thanks. I have a question, what is the music played at the end of the video? It is most agreeable.
It's Concerto Grosso by a composer called Geminiani. I found it on a stock audio site and now he's one of my favourite composers.
@@EnglishMartialArts Thank you, I will delve into his work.
I wonder what his style would look like? In my mind it looks like Dominick Cruz's movement, moves well, counters well, uses openings to launch long overhands and hooks while his opponent overextendeds. Cruz himself is a Bantamweight who started fighting when the lightest MMA class was 155 (meaning people cut weight to make that, so probably like 170-180lbs) and Cruz walked around at about 143lbs, so the size difference existed as well.
What rules were at that time? Could they kick or use elbows and knees? Or even throws?
If you check out my recent video on how a violent death caused the birth of boxing you will see the rules in some detail!
Bravo ladd; what a forceful narrative you gave. For the brief moment I envision the battle of real men. I imagine the sounds of the crowd. Thank you for the joy you brought an elderly man.😁👍
Very pleased you enjoyed it!
Very much my ladd. Thank you for sharing your labours of love. I to in my youth was quite pugilist. So your work brings too my mind of pleasant memories of youth.👍👍👍
A blue plaque marks Mendoza's house in Paradise Row, London. A stone's throw from Bethnal Green tube station.
Great storytelling!
What a find great video you sir tell a great story
Your intro was absolutely hilarious lol... great vid.
Thank you!
The win streaks of these figures are fairly fascinating. How often had Mendoza lost before fighting Jackson? As he says he avenged his all losses, there must have been a few L's on his record.
The modern fight businesss in the west often puts a huge amount of weight on having a perfect record, but it strikes me that classical pugilists fought often and many of them weren't too picky about their foe, much like we see in Thailand where losses are expected on a fighter's record because of the sheer amount of fights they have. Was there a similar view in the 18th and early 19th centuries?
Mendoza definitely had a few losses on his record when he fought Jackson, IIRC he lost twice to Humphries before finally beating him good and proper, and once to Tom Tyne.
Hi Oz, are you familiar with Robert E. Howard's boxing stories? Coming from the author of Conan the Barbarian, although fictional, they probably have the level of epicness that this channel requires :D I think there is a book called "Waterfront Fists and other stories" that has all of them.
I will try and find a copy!
What a great video! Thank you for sharing this!
My pleasure!
You're back!
I am indeed! You have some catching up to do... 😁
Quick question....whenever I watch this video (or your other videos on him), I think of McBain from the Simpsons screaming "Mendoza!!!". Have you ever seen what I am speaking of? Regardless, great video!!
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@@EnglishMartialArts you, sir, are a great man
I do think the size difference Mendoza went against are a bit overstated. His most famous victories basically all came against guys around his size like Humphries and the criminally underappreciated Will Ward.
Humphries was described as being several inches taller than Mendoza and "a herculean gladiator" while Mendoza was described as having "weak loins" when the pair met at Odiham.
Warr had the advantage of "2 inches and half a stone in weight"
He fought Fitzgerald who had 4 inches and 14 lbs on him.
Admittedly none of them were giants, but the writers of the day were keen to point out he was small, so why should we disagree?
Great little series. However......I must bring you to task. You are referencing English fighters in the beautiful age of manly pugilistic arts, so would it not be more apt to have “arse” kickings?
It would indeed, but I'm already nearing peak Englishness. Think of it as a sop to my transatlantic cousins...
@@EnglishMartialArts accepted. Good day to you.
Does the UK have Badgers?
Yes, we do indeed.
Did these guys not break their hands the first time they land on someone's skull?
Sometimes yes, but they weren't throwing like a modern boxer. The techniques were much more suited to bare knuckle.
bare knucklers I know all have knarled 👊🏼 & fat stoved fingers only good for bustin face / gut
7:33 *stomach says hi*
Lol, never noticed that. You must have good headphones!
Shows the audio set up was worth the money...
Do you have a vid on Broughton rules?
I cover them briefly in Broughton's Story of Greatness, but I think you have just given me the idea for my next video...
@@EnglishMartialArts Great, can't wait!
Just a thought.. would the boxer's in those days be regarded as champions of the world..
With the utter disdain the English felt for the rest of the world I would suspect so.
@@EnglishMartialArts 🤣
Absolutely brilliant thank you.
Really glad you enjoyed it.
this channel is going to be so huge
That'd be nice, but after 10 years I'm probably not gonna hold my breath!😁😁😁
EnglishMartialArts no keep doing what u are doing. This great stuff. I’m tired of people talking about the kardashians lol
I was wonder if you had an opinion of the men put into the IBHOF as pioneers? Wondering why they have been favoring Americans Tom Hyer Paddy Ryan etc, when good men with plenty more fights like Ned Neale, Ned Turner or even Bishop Sharpe are on the outside. I feel the American prize ring should have its own category due to the rampant cheating (knife and gunplay from outside the 24 foot ring) influencing the outcome. Enjoyed the video keep it up.
Read a book about captain Barcelona,there's alot about Jackson and mendoza
In their own way they were two of the biggest names in the sport.
Good as gold pal : )
Commenting for the algorithm. Great vid thanks
Thank you, on both counts!
My kingdom for a time machine
Withdraw my lord! I'll help you to a... Time machine?
Very interesting, this subject about Mendonza.
Mendonza 's Era when Boxeurs fought without limit of Rounds !....
Really Hard at that time.
Ok,now for safety and for better Boxing there are Rules and 12 ir 15 Rounds in a Match. And each Round with 3 minutes lasting.
Mendonza made Boxing History by his Thecnique, by his incredible Skills in his XVIII the Century Era. Mendonza with about 75 Kgs Height, however, he was A GREAT CHAMP DURING ABOUT 40 YEARS AS A HEAVYWEIGHT WORLD CHAMP (HE LEFT HIS CAREER WHEN HE WAS 56 OR 57 YEARS OLD) ! AMAZING.
This is a good series.
Thank you.
Brutal fight, brutal times.
I've had to deal with a little guy that could throw some serious blows...I'm well over 6ft tall. I got into a bloody fight with some guy that was half a foot shorter than me.... 😱 OMG he has fast AF...and accurate....I could not believe the combos he was connecting with....3 at a time. They didn't hurt much...but the sheer volume of blows was scary...I started getting dizzy 😵 it was looking grim. I managed to get one good haymaker in, and the fight ended in a stalemate. It's been over 20 years now, and I'll never forget that little dude.
Never underestimate someone because of how small they are...it could cost you big time! Big people get concussions just as fast as little people lol 🤣 ...and chances are...the smaller, faster, more nimble fighter can connect first....just something I picked up along the way.
Size matters. Not always the deciding factor, but 2 people of equal skill the larger will usually win.
speed big factor too: seen many a smaller man soften up bigger opponent with more 👊🏼
It is well recorded that the East End Jews were Great Boxers.. Mendoza was Famous.. and as of the day.. there was no tv or radio.. so it was difficult to be known..and records were sketchy.. but what we do know.. is that bouts went on for a long time.. and were brutal.. that’s why regulations had to come in.. hence the Marquis of Queensberry.. who in watching an illegal bout on his land.. liked what he saw.. but was appalled at the conditions .. and introduced rules and times between rounds.. the bouts then were not as fast as today’s fights.. it’s just that more fighting is crammed in.. and a time target is set .. generally 30 minutes of fighting in between stoppages.. now if you’ve ever tried to hit a punchbag.. for one minute solid.. you will know..,how fit Boxers are.. it is by far a very effective form of self defence..and should never be taken lightly.. for me.. the Greatest if them all.. had to be Jack Johnson.. the most natural and gifted pugilist of them all..☝️..thankyou.
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What's with all the periods?
Great story thank you, riveting!
Why does everyone in the old paintings look like they are trying to do the splits? What a wild, wide stance.... By everyone. Weird.
I wrote an essay about this
I'd love to read it!
MENDOZAAAAA!!!!!
That should have read captain barcaly
good story, great telling!
Thank you!
Mendoza is still my favourite like you don’t get much tougher than Mendoza
Sub-fekkin'-scribed!! Damn good channel
Thank you!
HAS SIMON PEGG HAD YOU ON A DIET AGAIN HAHA .....GREAT VID BUDDY 👍👌😀
The funny thing is that before I put on a bit of weight everyone said I looked like Hugh Laurie. Now everyone says Nick Frost!
These where real Lions in that days. Real fighting men until the times sullivan fought Kilrain, after that everything degenerated.
Just subbed 👍
Better or bigger? 4 inches and 40 pounds difference. In their prime, Mayweather is a better technical boxer than Tyson but Tyson would win because of the size difference. Size does matter. This is why there are weight classes.
According to the writers of the time, both.
John Jackson, besides being bigger and stronger than Daniel Mendoza, was probably fresher and healthier because of not having the same extensive fight career, and hard fights, that Mendoza had.
I found out I was related to Daniel mendoza today
One classy ass kick session
Dan Hardy just posted an old boxing book on Instagram stories. I messaged him to check out your channel.
😁 awesome thanks! What was the book?
What Do You Know About Boxing? By W Buchanan Taylor 1947
@@runningsuperska Interesting, I don't have that!
What an epic ass-kicker of a story!🥊
Thank you!
If he is a natural 160lbs now he would fight at 145 or even 135 with a good diet and probably less fat. Think about it
He was probably smaller than McGregor
Absolutely. You can reasonably look to cut 15-20 lbs without it killing you. And you can reasonably expect to lose 10 pounds during a pre fight camp. So yeah, 135 is perfectly within reach if you walk around at 160.
@@EnglishMartialArts so that fight was more like might mouse v JDS or something like that. That was some Pride lavel of mismatch, great entertainment though
No wonder the result and that shows how though Mendoza was
Does anyone else hear a gurgle at 7:33 lmao 🤣😅😂😂