I NEVER WANT TO SHOWJUMP AGAIN - BAD SHOW | Riding with Charlotte
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
- Welcome to a new video! It’s gone from one extreme to this other. Following last week’s success out at Dressage, we unfortunately had a bad show out showjumping today. So bad I never want to showjump again.
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Hello, my name is Charlotte. I’m an Equestrian Content Creator, Marketing and Social Media Manager. I enjoy sharing my equine journey with my horse, Vossi. Voss is the first horse I’ve owned and I am beyond grateful to call him my very own. I am currently in the process of regaining confidence in Showjumping with him.
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Welcome to a new video! It’s gone from one extreme to this other. Following last week’s success out at Dressage, we unfortunately had a bad show out Showjumping today. So bad I never want to showjump again.
I hope you enjoy and please don't forget to subscribe xx
Hi Charlotte 👋 did you see my reply to your video. Posted 4 days ago ... your horse needs physical help , I see a horse in pain before and after the jumping hence not wanting to do the course... you need to get him checked out straight away at the vets or a equine therapist.. he isn't happy . He's not naughty.. this is a horse that needs to be listened to and get help please 🙏.. x
I’m sorry but this horse has been telling you for quite a while he doesn’t want to do it and you persisted…..you’ve moved yards numerous times because you don’t like people telling you the truth so it’s about time you woke up and put the horse first and not your ego for RUclips !
Hi Charlotte, im a physical therapist and viewing the video i just wanted to tell you hes not being naughty. This is a horse telling you hes in pain . Hes feeling something before and after the jumps . This isn't you , but he needs a veterinarian to check his back. Otherwise a equine therapist.
Something is up this isn’t the same vossie from last winter. Hopefully she can figure out what it is.
Exactly what I thought watching this
That’s not a happy looking horse. I’m sure you probably know that having rewatched the footage. Hope you find what’s bothering him and help him feel more comfortable soon!
This is just my opinion, and in no way is meant to hurt you. He is a big horse with a big stride. He had started to get in a rhythm in the warm up, and you slowed him and seriously shortened his stride. I think that's his problem. I think you should get in touch with Meg, and get a lesson with Cameron. I really think he can help you learn to move Vossi more forward. I know you would do well with eventing. I believe Vossi needs to move forward at a comfortable rhythm for him, which I do believe will be a bigger stride than you're used to. I think he's backwards in his jumping, and you will need help with it. But he really needs to be allowed to move forward. I don't know. Just my thoughts. You rode really well. Great video.
Thanks so much! I ride him the way I was taught based off how a professional rode him and figured out what was best for him. He’s actually only 15’3, so he’s a small horse actually, he’s also not a confident horse and relies very much on a strong, professional, confident rider - of which I am not, nor wish to be. Therefore, we’re finding that middle ground of what makes us both happy. That seems to be Dressage ☺️
@RidingwithCharlotte the above is an interesting comment and in some ways I agree. I feel like he needs more freedom in front and it was interesting to see when Meg E rode him and gave him more freedom to go forward he looked very nice. This is in no way meant to be a horrible criticism, horse world is full of "experts" 😅 and I know we only see a small snippet of things. I know you mention about this is how a professional rode him, but they don't always get it right.
If you think dressage is the right thing for both of you then focusing on flatwork may take the pressure off you both. Plus, you never know, the more you develop your flat, you may circle back to some jumping. The old saying is, jumping is just flatwork with poles in the way 😂 I know what it's like to have a big confidence knock, so I can sympathise. It would be interesting to see what you think/how you find unaffiliated vs BD, as in my experience they are very different.
@@RidingwithCharlotte that particular professional's approach doesn't seem to be working for either of you though does it? Neither of you look to be particularly enjoying yourselves and the fall you had recently would understandably knock confidence. Doing the same thing over again and expecting different results doesn't make sense, so why not change it up and find a trainer who can get you both relaxed, confident and thinking and moving forward? If the dressage helps with that too then great and I agree with not trying to battle on with the jumping as it is but that's not to say with a different training approach and taking things back a few steps couldn't get both your confidence on track and working as a team. Jumping or no jumping I do wish you well with him.
I agree to some extent with the big stride...however I really think dressage was lovely! I'd definitely stick with your gut if that's what it's saying. It's definitely a strong suit for the both of you!
I think from my own experience with my horse who behaves the same as voss. When you have a pulling horse who might stop and bucks after a fence as a rider you try to ride in the most contained and controlled manner to prevent all the moves. I used to ride my horse in the same way the only time I didn’t was when I had my instructor ride first. It’s a hard one and I think they look easier from the ground but when your riding it’s soo much to think about and take on phaha xx
I'm wondering if you have checked his front end? I had a little mare that acted the same way as him. Sometimes she would be great at jumping and was really great at dressage. She finally got to the point where every time I jumped, she would act just like that. She was never lame, until the end and It ended up being her Check ligament. This was over a 6 year period. 4 vets didn't figure it out. All blamed it on behavior issues.
I think something is up with your horse I'm afraid, this bucking has been going on for ages and i think you two would have a much better time finding out why hes saying no. It needs investigating by a vet if you want a happy horse.. he looks so uncomfortable
Well you “think” wrong as he gets a full work up done once, if not sometimes TWICE a year.
Aww Charlotte! Thank-you for being so vulnerable and honest with us. Your warm up looked amazing and your flatwork and dressage is absolutely fantastic! ❤
Thank you so much!!❤
I'm going through something similar, I feel utterly defeated today. I'm going to make a similar decision so that I can start enjoying riding again, not constantly being stressed, anxious and beating myself up for my "failures". We are supposed to be enjoying this! Be good to yourself, I can see how much you love Vossi!
So sorry you’ve also been feeling a bit defeated😞 absolutely important we love our horses first and then do what’s right for both them and us! You’ll find the love for it again soon☺️xx
If you want to continue to jump him you need a professional to take him on in full training for a month or so. He has got your number and it will only get worse.
That’s exactly what I don’t want, sending him away to be “transformed”😅 if he doesn’t want to do it with me, I’m not getting someone else to force him to do it. I believe that if a horse wants to do it, they will do it. He doesn’t want to do it sometimes and that doesn’t sit well with me so I’m happy to stop it all together and focus on Dressage - where he’s happy and relaxed
Good for you Charlotte....imo you will go far in dressage where he seems happier ❤❤❤
And remember what dressage superstars the two of you were a week before🎉🏆🥂
I felt every word you spoke, I felt all your emotion. Do what makes you and Vossi happy, whether that be a hack around the countryside, flat lessons, dancing to music. It's not a test, it's two beings wanting different things and then finding a middle ground. Enjoy each other and your time together x
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He is so beautiful and you clearly care for him so much. Jumping just doesn’t seem to be the thing for you two together. Rock the dressage, love the hacks, and enjoy your boy!❤❤❤
Ever considered he’s not really your horse? There’s a mismatch between you. He’s an amazing athlete for jumping. But he’s destroying you and you’re not developing him.
I’ve been told this plenty of times😅I love him, I’m not selling him so he’s mine forever and therefore we work together on what suits us both 😁
Ps; he’s not destroying me and why on earth does a horse have to be “developed” 😆
Could it be his bit? Because its interesting he was fine on a loose rein until you took up the contact again?just a thought x
It's actually okay to move one, you have tried so hard to make this work! I did the same thing 4 years ago and have never looked back, don't regret going one to dressage. Hope you find the joy back with vossi❤
I’ve tried and tried and tried and I don’t enjoy showjumping anymore 😢 thank you for your reassurance! Dressage feels right for us xx
@@RidingwithCharlotte life is seriously to short to not enjoy life! Enjoy your beautiful horse and don't give a sh*t what other people says about it👏
Charlotte keep the dressage you have all the signs from the universe you need!!!
Absolutely 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Hi sweetheart we noticed that when you land your jumps you are not staying in a forward seat off his back but instead your legs swing forward and you bounce on to his back instead of staying up in two point. It is are belief he is bucking in response to back pain because you are not staying off his back on the landing. We love you and hope you can use are observations to help you understand why he bucks. :) We all have a blind spot, we are all learning. :)
Very brave and honest vlog, do what makes you and Vossi happy Charlotte, whatever that might be xx
Thank you so much!❤
Brave of you to share this Charlotte , draw a line underneath it and move on to your dressage journey together . Your horse , your life , your dream so go for it no regrets do what makes you happy , very best of luck xxx
Thank you, agree xx
Has he been scoped? With his breeding, he'll have risk factors anyway, but he does look like there are gut issues there....
Such a brave decision and good on you for making it in the best interests of you and Vossi ❤
oh how frustrating, I don't blame you, when you lose trust, the confidence goes down and then it becomes a vicious circle. If only we could get in their heads and say, hey what's the problem? sorry you're going through this
I just made the same decision for me and my horse. I found I was more excited for my dressage lessons than I was jump lessons. When I'd go ride, I'd always choose the dressage saddle over the jump. A month ago, I got bucked out of my jump tack. first time off in 8 years. Well I have a stint in my spinal cord and my neurosurgeon told me not to fall off cause repeated jarring motions can cause it to dislodge. I decided after that fall to embrace the inner Dressage Queen that I was trying so hard to suppress. I thought I loved jumping, but falling is going to be part of jumping and I can't risk it. Yes falling is a part of horses in general, but it's not a question of "if" with jumping as it is "when." Plus, there was always that fear of falling that I don't have with dressage. why put myself through that. I enjoy and low key love dressage. So I'm focusing my time and $$$ on that. Will still pop him over some low fences every now and then. You gotta do what's best for you and your pony. It's not supposed to be scary, frustrating, and stressful.
Aw Charlotte, Bless your patience with Vossi, I hope you both find your happy place, be it pure dressage or just enjoying him,
Thank you so much!
I wonder as he’s so talented he was over faced as a youngster and pushed too much. You’ll find your path whatever that is ❤ xxx
We will never know! But I’m not forcing anything anymore, what will be, will be ☺️x
He is a monkey, I think he picks up on your feelings and pushes your buttons, if you love cross country why not try Hunter trials, maybe pairs to give you both confidence, and if dressage is your happy place then do that, it's your life and horse do what you enjoy ❤xx
My showjumper done this and i never overcame it. I gave up. Now and again ill try but nope. She jumps amazing at home but just will not compete :( but we hunt, fun rides, hunter trials etc.
Good on you for trying. Your a brilliant rider and such a good horse person for listening to your horse
Thank you❤
Horses are all about the highest highs and the lowest lows, chin up girlie, whatever direction you take in your riding career we're all here to support you :)
Very true and very sweet☺️thank you x
We're ALL been there. Appreciate your honesty about the challenges of showing
I appreciate that!x
I know this feeling all too well. I swear vossi and my bay could be twins. I decided to retire him from competition as I was just hating riding in the ring 😂 you do soo well to keep giving it a bash with vossi and he has such beautiful paces you guys will smash it in the dressage world xx
it was a pleasure to have you and speak to you, maybe it’s not the end of the road, but even if it is it’s evident he’s got a great career in dressage !! sometimes it’s just not worth the stress for both of you!! if it’s not fun it’s not right ! x
It was lovely to meet you today❤ thank you for helping run such a lovely show xx
I feel so gutted for you. But thank you for sharing the lows as well as the highs! You and Voss are a fantastic partnership, I think it's clear to see your love for showjumping has gone at this moment and vossis love for it too, so go and enjoy yourselves, smashing the dressage and maybe one day the showjumping could be an option again, who knows what the future holds! Good luck!! X
If you like the cross country side of things you could try doing a hunter trail
Well done for giving it a go, and for deciding to do what’s best for you both! Can’t wait to see how you get on with the dressage. He has such pretty paces and you’re a lovely rider, I think you’ll go far! And hey, maybe you could try a hunter trial at some point down the line to get your XC fix, I absolutely love them! Thanks for sharing the highs and lows, love you guys! Xx
Thank you❤
you have a horse a beautiful one at that just enjoy him have fun beach rides ,gallops, hacking, meet up with friends go have fun. we all put pressure that we have to do something no we dont. It is a huge privilage to own and ride a magnificent animal, To spend time together grooming being together try some liberty work that builds a bond like no other and its fun. Enjoy your horse make the most of everytime as you never no when its your last .stop with the pressure and the got to be competing doing something, no you havent its a privalage to be around vossi love on him spoil him and enjoy each other. all the best xx
Couldn’t agree more with you, 100000% why I own Vossi and love being around horses! Sometimes pressure of others succeeding out at competitions can be a real distraction from the simple things that really make me smile xx
Such a pity as Vossi and you have such great talent, but we can see that you get so stressed about it so I think you are makng the right decision. I think you will both excel in dressage. I'm excited to see what happens gong forward for you both 😊 xx
Mom yes I’ve gone through that whole nappy bull sh*t with my horses - get on with the dressage or even show horse or better still have a go at working equitation - but definitely give the SJ away Voss will only get worse he hates it and that’s what he’s telling you!
Good luck you will get there😊
Do what is fun! Because thats why we do the whole thing. Best of luck in your dressage endeavours! Cant wait to see what you and Voss achieve!
Thank you so much❤
This is the RIGHT decision, Charlotte. Changing our paradigm is always difficult. All change is difficult. You have said it’s not just this one experience. It has been a long time in coming. Once you get into the new swing of things, you will start to have fun! Vossi had told you he doesn’t like to jump. Your relationship with him is going to be transformed!!! All my love to you from the US. I can’t wait to watch your dressage journey!!!❤
Thank you xx
OMG! I had a similar experience last show! I drove 5 & half hours for a 2 day event. We did an ok dressage go in for SJ & refuses to go over the jump & warmed up amazing. (jumps are 65cm & he’s a 105 eventer) I was devastated and I just broke down for ages as I had never had my horse refuse ever. 😢
So I know your pain
Well done on getting out there and giving it another go. It just confirms what you have been feeling that show jumping isnt for you both atm. If you both dont enjoy it and it causes anxiety then its just not worth it grl. Lifes to short. Do what makes you both happy. And you and Vossi are totally smashing it at dressage you both looked incredible last week. Looked like you've been doing it for yrs!!! ♥️♥️♥️
Thank you so much❤
Wow that's interesting, I haven't jumped my horse before but he does the same thing when I'm tense 😅
I think it’s incredibly brave to make that decision Charlotte. I will admit whenever I watch him jump I always think Jesus how does she stay on this horse????
He did so well at Dressage and you both looked amazing, put the jumping to bed for a bit take the pressure off and enjoy the dressage. Can’t wait to see how he gets on at his next dressage competition xxxxx
Thank you so much❤xx
You said it yourself. He needs someone that will give him an intense jump session once a week before a show. And You don't want that. You also said that there are some horses that you can just take to a show after a month of doing nothing & they will just jump everything. And that's what You want. But some people don't want a horse like that. Some people would LOVE to have a horse that needs intense jump training every week.
Lucy from Footluce has done a brilliant job with Ember & he was napping like anything & wouldn't jump! Of course she had a ton of help from Justine . They definitely didn't force Ember they just realised what makes him tick.
im so sorry i know this feeling and it is horrible sometimes it just easier to just cry and let it all out. It's ok to just take a step back and have a think and see what's what and if things really aren't working then yeah thats completely ok and then you find out what works for you! most of all as long as you enjoy it then that's all that matters x You have got this don't let people tell you otherwise you do so so well with him!
Going through similar with my horse atm😢thank you for showing things how they really are sometimes in the reality of horse ownership! ❤
Sorry to hear that, you’re definitely not alone xx
Definitely time to be dressage divas now! You do what you want with your own horse, I don’t understand why some people would insist you jump him just because he has nice sj breeding, do what you both enjoy!
Absolutely feels like the right time to transform over to Dressage 🤩
Oh Charlotte im so sorry sweetheart i feel so sorry for you!! Your horse is very sweet! it must been so disappointing for you!!
Honestly I think you need a new horse. If you want to jump u need to find a horse that enjoys it. To me it looks like he doesn’t enjoy jumping. Some horses just don’t like doing certain things. Dont stop doing what u love because of the horse u have.
@ridingwithcharlotte Oh Charlotte u are so relatable ! I love your videos as someone who is just about to look at getting into competing this is sooo refreshing to see that everyone and there horse is not perfect I think we always focus on the good but never the struggles people have to get there in the process xxx
Charlotte, we all have days like this! Trust me, last showjumping I did I was eliminated in two different rounds a week after a 3rd placing out of 40 🤣 The horses like to keep us on our toes especially Vossi from what I can tell 😆
If showjumping really isn’t your thing do what makes you happy and Vossi of course! Lots of love ❤
Oh and just to add, snowball farm are brilliant I am glad they were kind
You tried, that's the most important thing!!!! Good luck with your next event!!
Yes! Thank you!❤
I had a pony with the same attitude as Voss , there is nothing you can do to make them showjump if they don't want to do it! Some people turn them away for a break , some hunt them or cross country them but at the end of the day if you want to keep Voss I would do another discipline !
All the best for your future plans with Voss!
i think you should just be a dressage diva :) i cant be bothered jumping and i love dressage alot more relaxed and more fun and you did so well with your dressage!i think he amazing
I agree. I made the same decision recently. When i git my horse, i said I'd never do that stupid dressage crap. well here I am absolutely in love with the discipline. I embraced my inner dressage Queen and am the happiest I've been since getting my horse.
@@lifelightsimple6503 omg that so awesome we need to do what is safe and fun if you don't enjoy jumping then don't do it I learnt not to push myself my boy did what Charlotte did at the dressage warm up refused to go in and lost it going side ways backing into cars and sheds .. had to get off but I'm trying again that is dressage! Jumping is even more intense
Keep postive….. definitely dressage is the way forward at the mo. X
Absolutely!!❤
Not an easy day for you . Totally could see Vossi the Viking resisting early on by his conversation in the ring. Possibly there is some show attitude with crowds there but don ''t EVER think he is not a talented jumper and has shown that over the years when you jumped him (or Meg E.) You have jumped him amazingly showing off his well clearing jump ability, bucks and all! Time out for you both now for dressage .I believe you will somewhere down the road show his power off again with renewed confidence and enjoyment. He is a super horse to enjoy anywhere.
do you think he would like or Enjoy cross country or horse endurance riding ?
Good for you for focusing on the positives. It is also reassuring for low level riders like me to see experienced equestrians like you having these kinds of challenges. It has to be enjoyable/satisfying or what's the point?! Enjoy the next phase of your partnership 🙂
Absolutely!! Xx
I can hear the upset in your voice bless you xx as I commented on your dressage vlog. This is the only way to find out what's right for you and your horse by training and competing, and I think you've done sj enough now to realise that maybe it's Just not right for you both as a partnership and we as onlookers can only give our opinions but you know your own horse the best and obviously yourself and what your feeling and thinking about sj and I'm not being funny but there is no way it's right if it's keeping you up at night and making you feel sick Just the thought of it. Let people say what they want, but as I said earlier, you know your own horse best, so trust your gut on this one. You do exactly what you feel is right and what makes your horse happy xxx
So so very true, thank you so much❤
Follow your gut, if he's not enjoying it and your not enjoying it, it's time to try something else. There's no point is forcing yourselves to do something that brings no joy x
You did so well in your dressage competition and looked so happy. Maybe you could just jump for fun at home when you feel like it and concentrate on dressage when competing. He certainly has the paces for it 🥰
I think that sounds like a great idea xx
Honestly Charlotte, it is meant to be fun. You probably work really hard during the week and if it is anything like my horse, he is your ‘down time’. He is a super horse, you ride him beautifully - kick on to dressage 🤩🤩
You have to do what makes you and your horse happy. You aren’t happy showjumping and neither is Vossi. You have shown over and over again that Voss isn’t confident showjumping and it hugely stresses you out 💁🏽♀️ speaks volumes!
Focus on the dressage, Voss is obviously so much happier doing that and he’s amazing at it!
You are obviously upset about this decision but look to your future in dressage, I feel it will be very bright 🤩
Ah girl I’m sorry this happened, it was quite hard to watch and it clearly isn’t working. I think you both look so much happier and relaxed doing dressage and this is supposed to be fun. Sometimes we get what we need, not necessarily what we want. And I know you bought Vossi with the view to have him as a show jumping horse but he’s clearly not happy and it’s all a bit too much. You have a wonderful partnership in dressage and I think you have a very bright future there. Chin up ❤
Maybe it was just the place. Could he sense something? Don’t give up x
Let me tell you, if he was sensing something based off his behaviour today, he was sensing dragons, zombies and the world ending😆
Aahh dont be upset Charlotte - you tried and thats the main thing. Do what makes you both happy xx
Thank you ❤
Not to be rude why don't u wear a red ribbon on him when he bucks at shows
We play ponies because its our happy place ❤ as long as whatever you two do is what makes you both of you smlie like a Chester cat 😊 then you are winning....
side note dressage to music would be so cool to watch you guys do ❤❤
I couldn’t agree more ❤
It's time to move on from this horse
If you were having a race horse then it wouldn't run would you keepbut
Totally different vibe from you both at dressage compared to this…play to your talents and strengths as that’s where enjoyment lies! Do you follow Natasha Swales - she’s had a similar thing with her horse Mary (she was a rearer in SJ) and is now trying dressage and the horse looks sooo much more relaxed. Me driving to a dressage show versus me driving to a sj arena hire with 40cm cross poles are like two different people and I know the one I enjoy being most! Xx
It might be because there was a lot of people watching
you guys will grow back again , don't worry
You are a way stronger person than me. We do all the work in the week the weekend is meant to be where all our hard work pays off and we can enjoy it. I couldn't do it with this behaviour if this was my horse. Done gone out of my life. Call me a terrible person idc don't have time for this nonsense
What was that about? What did your mum say?
“Forget jumping, focus on Dressage” - 😆 classic mum response
Oh dear Charlotte Vossi you naughty boy. Maybe he simply doesn’t like jumping but hey chin up he love’s dressage and looks fantastic doing it. So Charlotte dressage it is your very comfortable doing it with he’s not naughty. It really doesn’t matter if you never jump him again just do what makes you both happy. A good gallop occasionally he loves that and nice hacks out plus the beach.There’s loads of things you can still do just enjoy each other.
Absolutely!! All about doing what we enjoy xx
He’s not being naughty, or spicy or excited as people keep saying he’s in some kind of pain and he doesn’t have a voice to express it so he’s trying to tell her in every other way he can. It’s actually really sad and uncomfortable to watch, especially seeing him being booted in the ribs with spurs 😢
I don’t think he liked that flag
he wants to be dressage diva
So does mummy 😜
He definitely loves his dressage🐴🇺🇸. He did so well at it at the last show.
For sure, what he loves, I will learn to love too ☺️