Hey Jason, I’ve been “obsessed” recently and have watched a TON of youtube videos. Very few explain the differences between knots. YOUR channel does! Thanks for that!! 👍🏼 G 😊
A great, in depth look at these two very similar knots. It's amazing how changing one single step in tying changes the characteristics of the knot so much.
My go to hitch is the Faramond Hitch but I still use a Tautline Hitch in hard to reach places. I never bothered learning the Midshipman's hitch because of that. I never realized how close the Midshipman's Hitch was to the Tautline Hitch until watching this video. Thanks!
The tautline in the intro is not the same as the one you tied for demonstration. The working on the intro is back toward the loop, but the one you tied, the working end finishes away from the loop. I’ve seen both variations and wonder the effectiveness of each.
I went through a bug discussion that the midshipmans is just an undressed tautline. Ashley's book of knots shows the tautline as going under for the first wrap and the midshipmans going over. I find that over time and use my midshipmans will want to dress itself moving into a tautline. I do agree that the awning hitch part of the midshipmans will tend to put more of a bend in the rope to grab better. Either way it's a great discussion to have. Thanks for the video
Both variations of the Rolling hitch which is tied same idea but the wrapping turns all lie below each other and Finnish with the same half hitch, this is the technique used in the merchant navy where a good grip is required under heavy load, good video
I've replaced my use of the taught line hitch with the midshipman's hitch when I found it as a great knot to tie when loaded! I use it for guylines and even to hang ridgelines for hammock/tarp/awning/etc! Bonus: just now hit me that the tensionless anchor for rope rescue or rappelling is three turns + rethreaded overhand (or clove) which is basically two turns + two half-hitches!
I did a double take on your wood background. Love the mottling. It's similar to a curly cherry dining table I made. BTW, I'm anxious to put the Midshipman's Hitch to work.
I use the midshipmans and like it better than the taughtline. Works really well tensioning the lines for halloween and xmas inflatables. Havent gone camping in a while unfortunately.
It's a little hard to see, but the Taut-Line looks like it's tied incorrectly. On the back side of the know it should go diagonally across the humps to the last hitch. If it goes parallel to the length of the rope, then it will slip much easier.
I was thinking the same thing. I've always tied it parallel to the line; like a prussik or larks head. Rather than diagonal like a clove(as shown here).
I am carefull about adding new knots and loops , they must be needed and used to be added and I certainly plan on using this one for a long while, replacing the taut line. That means every morning and afternoon , I will tie the midshipman half a dozen times , along with others that I have all but masterd.
I do and don’t. The good thing about Ashley’s is that it is big and comprehensive, a lot of people also enjoy all of the pretty pictures. The problem with Ashley’s is that it is outdated and written from one perspective but culturally and socially people use different knots for different purposes and also use different terms colloquially. A great example is the “slip knot” vs the “noose”, but examples can be made elsewhere. It’s always funny seeing people argue about knots because it shows that those people just don’t have a larger perspective and limited knowledge. There are a lot of books out there and I would always recommend getting a few but then also getting out and learning from experienced people in trades that use knots regularly. You’ll quickly see that there is a lot of variety of information out there.
@@JasonsKnotChannel I appreciate your channel and content. Ashley mentions two rolling hitches but I agree, it's outdated and one of them seemed to have morphed into a taut-line, or midship... so confusing. The magnus is obvious and a beautiful hitch for my sailboat snubber and such, at the end of the day that's all that really matters
okay so does the midshipman's hitch do the same thing as the taught line hitch - in that it can be used to tighten a guyline? I guess I'm asking because I don't think I've seen that knot before. Cheers
I plan on hanging a kids glider swing. Is the midshipmans a good knot to use? It will be tied to a metal carabiner. If not what knot would you suggest?
Both are variations of the most useful knot (because I use it to tighten the cord I use to hold my trousers up). The rolling hitch was used for to attach the line that went round the capstan used to hoist the anchor to the anchor cable. In French it is known as the ' noeud de bosser
I really love comparisons of knots. This is only the second video I've watched of yours. Thank you.
Awesome! Thank you!
Hey Jason, I’ve been “obsessed” recently and have watched a TON of youtube videos. Very few explain the differences between knots. YOUR channel does! Thanks for that!! 👍🏼 G 😊
Really detailed overview. Thanks for sharing. I'm adopting the Midshipman's hitch now.
A great, in depth look at these two very similar knots. It's amazing how changing one single step in tying changes the characteristics of the knot so much.
Good variety of knots. Some examples of best use would help provide the context. Just a thought.
My go to hitch is the Faramond Hitch but I still use a Tautline Hitch in hard to reach places. I never bothered learning the Midshipman's hitch because of that. I never realized how close the Midshipman's Hitch was to the Tautline Hitch until watching this video. Thanks!
The tautline in the intro is not the same as the one you tied for demonstration. The working on the intro is back toward the loop, but the one you tied, the working end finishes away from the loop. I’ve seen both variations and wonder the effectiveness of each.
I went through a bug discussion that the midshipmans is just an undressed tautline. Ashley's book of knots shows the tautline as going under for the first wrap and the midshipmans going over.
I find that over time and use my midshipmans will want to dress itself moving into a tautline.
I do agree that the awning hitch part of the midshipmans will tend to put more of a bend in the rope to grab better.
Either way it's a great discussion to have. Thanks for the video
Thanks for watching
These vids are so easy to follow. Thanks, Jason. 🙂👍
Both variations of the Rolling hitch which is tied same idea but the wrapping turns all lie below each other and Finnish with the same half hitch, this is the technique used in the merchant navy where a good grip is required under heavy load, good video
I've replaced my use of the taught line hitch with the midshipman's hitch when I found it as a great knot to tie when loaded! I use it for guylines and even to hang ridgelines for hammock/tarp/awning/etc!
Bonus: just now hit me that the tensionless anchor for rope rescue or rappelling is three turns + rethreaded overhand (or clove) which is basically two turns + two half-hitches!
‘Taut line’, not ‘taught line’.
Excellent video
Well done - and very, very helpful!
Many thanks!
Great!. Thank you for sharing!
great new knot in my tool box! thanks Jason!
You’re welcome Colette
Excellent viddy.
Thank you very much. I have already tied my taut line at work and I think that will suffice for the job but I will remember the mid ship mans hitch!
Awesome. As long as you got something out of the video, my mission is accomplished. 🙂 Thanks for the comment.
If I’m not mistaken, I think the midshipman’s knot is what us old firemen called a chimney hitch.
Yes! 😀
I can't find an "awning hitch" video on your channel. I'd like to see it compared to similar hitches.
Great instructions , thanks for sharing , stay safe , God bless !
Thanks, you too!
I did a double take on your wood background. Love the mottling. It's similar to a curly cherry dining table I made. BTW, I'm anxious to put the Midshipman's Hitch to work.
Thanks, yes, it's a cherry top but stained lightly with a walnut finish to bring out the grain. 🙂
The 1857 (ashley book) taut line is incredibly easy to remember and adjust. For extra security I go with the Trucker’s.
I use the midshipmans and like it better than the taughtline. Works really well tensioning the lines for halloween and xmas inflatables. Havent gone camping in a while unfortunately.
ABOK 1855 FTW
It's a little hard to see, but the Taut-Line looks like it's tied incorrectly. On the back side of the know it should go diagonally across the humps to the last hitch. If it goes parallel to the length of the rope, then it will slip much easier.
I was thinking the same thing. I've always tied it parallel to the line; like a prussik or larks head. Rather than diagonal like a clove(as shown here).
I've been using the taut line hitch since the boy scouts but am anxious to try the midshipman's hitch on my tent.
The taut-line hitch shown at 0:28 is tied wrong. The last half-hitch is tied in the wrong direction.
I wanted to write the same, when I saw your comment. 👍🤓
A year later and I mentioned it in my own comment. Lol
There are three variations to tie a taut-line hitch. They are not necessarily wrong.
Nice work 🫡
Thank you! Cheers!
I am carefull about adding new knots and loops , they must be needed and used to be added and I certainly plan on using this one for a long while, replacing the taut line. That means every morning and afternoon , I will tie the midshipman half a dozen times , along with others that I have all but masterd.
This whole time I've been tying a midshipmens hitch thinking it was a taught line 😆
That was a magnus hitch you started with at 0:25 followed by a taut-line or rolling hitch, no? Do you consult ashley book of knots?
I do and don’t. The good thing about Ashley’s is that it is big and comprehensive, a lot of people also enjoy all of the pretty pictures. The problem with Ashley’s is that it is outdated and written from one perspective but culturally and socially people use different knots for different purposes and also use different terms colloquially. A great example is the “slip knot” vs the “noose”, but examples can be made elsewhere.
It’s always funny seeing people argue about knots because it shows that those people just don’t have a larger perspective and limited knowledge.
There are a lot of books out there and I would always recommend getting a few but then also getting out and learning from experienced people in trades that use knots regularly. You’ll quickly see that there is a lot of variety of information out there.
@@JasonsKnotChannel I appreciate your channel and content. Ashley mentions two rolling hitches but I agree, it's outdated and one of them seemed to have morphed into a taut-line, or midship... so confusing. The magnus is obvious and a beautiful hitch for my sailboat snubber and such, at the end of the day that's all that really matters
okay so does the midshipman's hitch do the same thing as the taught line hitch - in that it can be used to tighten a guyline?
I guess I'm asking because I don't think I've seen that knot before.
Cheers
Yes, can be used for the same purposes.
What kind of rope are you using in this video?
I plan on hanging a kids glider swing. Is the midshipmans a good knot to use? It will be tied to a metal carabiner. If not what knot would you suggest?
No it is not. There is a hitch knot called a Swing Hitch.
What about midshipman vs tarbuck knot??
I'm need a knot around a tree but with a loop to hook on to. What's the best knot for that?
use the Alpine-butterfly loop if you only have one rope.
I assume the midshipmans hitch will work for tent stakes just like the taught line hitch.
Yes, definitely.
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Both are variations of the most useful knot (because I use it to tighten the cord I use to hold my trousers up). The rolling hitch was used for to attach the line that went round the capstan used to hoist the anchor to the anchor cable. In French it is known as the ' noeud de bosser
It’s amazing how many people tie the midshipman incorrectly
Nice video quality, but you go through the moves WAY too fast
Farrimond Friction Hitch beats these two
Ok... The video is a comparison of the Taut-line and the Midshipman's Hitch.