ALGORITHM *DOES NOT* EXIST in POKéMON GO | MYTHBUSTERS!
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
- In this episode of MYTHBUSTERS, we tackle the controversial topic: Does an algorithm exist in Pokémon GO? Join us as we debunk the myths and reveal the truth behind this popular theory!
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0047 the Myth
05:16 How MMS work
20:47 Understanding win rate Dynamics
25:00 the psychology behind the algo
29:50 the impact of rigged MMS
35:21 Conclusion
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Every game that has a PVP mode has an algorithm. You have to overcome it. Some of you are in denial. How many times have we seen same pokemon showing up in sets and as soon as you counter it. You never see it again. This happens too often to not notice. People complain about the PoGo Algo being too aggressive, to the point where its unfun. You have to count to win. Energy is crucial. I get bored of counting and sweating every game playing the same meta pokemon over n over in different order.
I am the ALGORITHM. It's essentially a free win if you run into me 😂😂😂
Gotta buy more raid passes brother
You are a goat!
@jamiefin1415 yes you are the algorithm @yasseraleed good effort on the video appreciate the hard work I prefer to keep my algorithm thoughts to myself because it is an endless debate Niantic will never come out saying yes we have the type based algorithm and a good amount of players won’t believe that this is an elo based algorithm what ever Niantic just fix the game
Just become the algorithm in Master League with Zygarde/Solgaleo. Easy Legend. It worked for me.
@@psychickofsoldier 😎😎
Yes 😂
Poke AK dislikes this video
lol I’ve watched a few poke Al videos. Does he believe the part about the disrupt connection??? lol
@@imsotrash239He believes in all kinds of conspiracy theories. I used to watch his videos, but I got really tired of his constant complaining, ranting & conspiracy theorising.
@chrisl6496 Do you realize that we have factual evidence because at some point someone had a "conspiracy theory"? Infact, all science involves conspiracy theories.
@@chrisl6496 I watched a few when I first started watching pokemon go content and it was never something that felt like I was learning or making myself better. I was entertained sometimes, but that was as fast as I got and other creators do all of those things, or only a few of those concepts, much better.
It looks like he found his audience though.
He's a cry baby 😂
Who needs an algorithm conspiracy theory, when the game constantly lags and crashes? If every 5th game results in a crash, you have to go 3-1 just to go positive every set.
Exactly
Too real.
"you just have easy account, I am in 1900 elo and I should be in legend" - some youtube influencer often throw at bad timing, run unbalance team, use low rank pokemons
@@IKER0718 those YTers run pre-recorded battles 🥸
By calling it algorithm we add to the conspiracy.
Every PVP game has a matchmaking system.
The point is where does it ends and turns into match fixing (illegal?)
With an advanced queuing system with filter options it’s not that difficult to program an R
SP algorithm.
Niantic is trying to control everything to slow down progress and stimulated engagement so why not this?
Note that typing as basis is hard because of dual-typing more likely it’s charged moveset.
If paid_customer and moveset GW add que .soft_counter else que .hard_counter (GW=Grass/Water in que round robin based on winrate)
I don't think they are trying to slow down the progress.
The progress in this game is already too slow.
You need 296 XL candy, 360 ish candy to max it to 40 plus double move it
500k dust
That grind alone is 2 week ish, just to build one pokemon
Actually coding an algorithm for countering would be super easy. You just asign a character or number to each of the types and kind of an "if" formula. If a then b/c/d (types weak to). It could take into account maybe the lead pokemon or the most amount of the same type in your team or whatever. The thing is I do believe there has to be an algorithm just to balance out how fast you can climb to not brake the game and avoid just everyone getting to Legend in their first try. That's what elo system based on MMR games do.
What I think could be really clever is that what actually gets you climbing is your ability to beat the counter, which in this case it does depends on the "skills" of the game. Smart switches, counting, attacks in middle of animations, knowing the pokes and it's moves, etc. Here you don't have to code anything other than a counter algorithm that activates the further you get above 50% winrate, and leave the rest to people able to win against it. When i get a 4W 1L set or 5W, it's usually by beating one or two hard matchups, never by just stomping through it all.
It would actually be much more harder to code an algorithm based on skill or the timing of your attacks so you can be paired with the same skill level players, specially in a game where you can get a loss just by pure and hard bad luck with triple counters. Of course you can do your best trying to beat it, but two shields will never be enough in that kind of situations. What makes it more suspicious to me is that I've seen several accounts that get capped near to 50% of winrate when actually trying to climb and using well built meta and anti meta teams but landing in different elo after lvl 20.
On the other hand, I actually think it would be pretty smart for niantic ecnonomically to do this. You'll test more and more combinations of pokemons just trying to overcome the counter you're getting, which translates in more time searching for those pokemons, spending stardust, candy, and more likely, money in the game to accelerate that process. GBL is so repetitive and random that I would just stop playing after reaching the elo I want, or even better, intentionally get my elo to the ground so I can farm stardust and candys at will when paired with actually low elo players. This kind of prevents it making synergy with the daily limit.
BUT, the thing that I think makes it hard and unbalanced is that the game forces you to play the meta relevant pokemons, which adds a layer of difficulty to the game for the more casual players, leaving out the posibility of playing maybe with your favorite pokemons, or just the pokes you're able to get (specially knowing how bad the cheating is). I would really love something like an arcade mode playing vs bots, maybe even changing theme with the current season, creating even some cool stories and symnbolical rewards. Or if thats too much, just adding some kind of strategy like preparing your team order before the match, or picking 3 pokes out of a bag of 6 after watching each others bags. Right now, and actually since the begining, the "randomness" and fog around some things like CMP tiers and IV impact just makes it feel sluggish and unpolished. People have to actually "discover" this things rather tan the game giving you the tools to understand them by yourself. If it wasn't for RUclips, or freaking genius dudes on reddit, something like 0/0/15 IVs coul'dve been something I couldn't be able to discover by myself.
Who needs an algorithm when you have RNGesus on your side? 😆
A basic casino machine has an algorithm. No ones disputing if u are good at the game. But like the discord cheat that was exposed, its a no brainer to think theres an algo for this game.
The discord bot was abusing a code issue with the game, where Niantic does not encrypt their code
When you Q into someone, the game sends the info of both trainers to each other's mobile app... And this info is not encrypted, so a client can read that.
And that is how the discord bot was able to know the moveset
@YasserAleed It could also be sent to ai (which niantic Is heavily using), for matchmaking. It's not a complex thing for them to set up. 😊 I'm not saying there is or isn't an algorithm, but we don't have evidence either way. All science is based on observations and asking questions.
@@babydollbecca you are giving them too much credit my friend.
That is all i can say.
MMS is purely based of ur rating
@YasserAleed You aren't aware they have a whole ai reviewing, approving and implementing for Wayfarer ? 😅 "Her" name is Emily. I underestimated them too, but you should really look into what they're doing lol
@@YasserAleedL + ratio.
Doesn’t matter what game you play, there will always be copious amounts of individuals who believe in some form of algorithm against which they are entirely helpless. For many, it seems to be easier to believe in something like that than it is to face the reality of their own inadequacy. Sadly when you remain stubborn and refuse to focus on improvement instead of said algorithm, you just reinforce your own belief time and time again. Great work as always Yasser❤️
@@stevelappy 💜💜
I did some contract work for Niantic back in 2017 for the raiding feature. It was designed to be move based matching so that the correct team suggestion would be made when you go into a raid. I wouldnt be surprised they adapted that to PVP. Its actually not too hard to do since moves types are locked in
They have ai doing wayfarer. they're definitely advancing. Would be easy to feed the movesets to ai for matchmaking.
We do have raid and gym algorithms so I appreciate seeing your comment. No one ever mentions this.
@@babydollbecca I mentioned it on the main Page. See my comment
Suggesting teams for raids, yes, it is a thing to make it easier to choose team for casual player, as raid is their main source of $$
Have they ever denied that?
Nope
Have they ever denied GBL algo?
Yes
What is your explanation for this: Yesterday i played in Remix 13:7. Today, same time (like yesterday). Two Sets. In 10 battles, 7.. or was it 8 negative leads. Coincidence ? Matchups were the opponent survived with one HP and i loose the battle. Coincidence ? Why can i climbe one day and the next day, the Team is not working ? Lead lost. Safeswitch lost. And dont tell me something about skill, when you get hard contered. Mantine vs. Carbink. Steelix vs. Regi for example.
@@MikeStryder exactly my pattern.
What I'm impressed with is the algorithm adjusted to higher and higher mmr before forcing me to go 50/50 as I learned more strategies and techniques. Really some advanced stuff
No
The higher you climb, mean u are playing harder opponents.
So you need to keep improving to keep climbing 😜
Up until about 2 weeks ago I was 95% sure the algorithm to hard counter you if you’re on a winning streak exists, but since then I’ve been having incredibly balanced matches, so yeah I actually no longer believe in the algorithm, I never thought I’d say that
The key is just to use meta balanced teams
Not random horrible Pokemons like exaggerator and complain about losing 😁
@@YasserAleed yeah I’m running tenta, greedent, virizion right now, need 18 more cells to get Zygarde complete then I’ll be able to use that in UL👌
Players want to downplay the algorithm so bad lmfao. That shit real
i used to run guzz, feraligatr, tentacruel, until i ran into like 4 tapu koko lead, a mon ranked 300 in open ul that happens to counter my entire team, in 1 day when i was winning nonstop. in hindsight, i had ways to overcome it, but it was just so bs that i had never seemed a koko b4 switched to this team
For the easy account, Dan Ottawa is a free to play player who is decent at pvp. Also why are legends always legends then?
@@bengaming9350 once you hit legend, you just figure out the sauce, what You've done to hit legend and copy paste
This is a great breakdown. The biggest thing that sticks for me is that I’m big on self improvement: So I could never allow myself to believe in the algorithm when all I need to do is lock in and be intentional about studying the game.
I’ve done more than 42000 battles and hit legend 13 times. The seasons I did not hit legend I have been expert and get into the 2900’s (also did not put money in the game, don’t know if that factors). Not hard to see what you play against is based on what team you use. When you’re winning you will for sure see a team you will have a very hard time winning against. Doesn’t mean you can’t win. I like to use surprise moves to overcome.
It’s true, PVP players don’t spend as much as raiders… Due to the shit condition of the PVP system, i started raiding… I’m now spending WAY more than I used to. I now enjoy the raid Hundo/Shundo grind and you make friends that want to play just as much.. so the spending continues.
But we miss you mrCornMango 😢
Yup, no stress about raiding, PvP is too stressful and full of bugs
Thank you for this. Yasser has solidified his reputation as the PoGo RUclipsr Gigachad
So true bestie
💜💜
There is no way there isn't a matchup algorithm. For example recently Ive stuck with one team for over a week. Then the second I completely switch team, and wigglytuff in the lead I start meeting.... golbats in the lead? 3 in the same set? Hadn't seen golbat in a long time :p its because of fairy being weak to poison.
I have so many similar examples of this. Completely switching teams and starting to see completely different pokemon.
That being said, you can flip matches. So to be able to advance you HAVE to learn to overcome the obstacle. When you become good enough the algorithm will matter alot less.
If this video was not enough to convince you, sorry my friend You won't believe it regardless.
Your analysis is missing data. Even anecdotal data is better than no data. I believe there is an algorithm that considers your team (and moves) to find your opponent. Anecdotally, I’ve seen this more often when I’m on a winning streak and then I start to encounter teams that beat mine consistently until your win rate goes back to ~50%, then you start to see more random teams. If your win rate goes too low, then you get matched with opponents that are countered more consistently by your team. Even random teams (aka, not meta) would eventually settle in around 50% win rate, which is very difficult if you only match using MMR
If there's no algorithm then why is it I can play 5 different teams in a set and every switch is a hard counter? I'm very proficient at counting moves, throwing moves at the right time, catching charged moves, etc. Yet I still haven't gotten past 2400 elo since the release of go battle league?
I usually recommend coaching
If you are good at counting, then just 2-3 sessions focused on decisions making would help a lot
Purposely ran three grass types in great league remix, next battle was two fire types in a water meta
So you have a sample size data of 2 games, is that enough?
This is like saying I purposely opened my wallet in the street, and there were 2 thieves... So everyone is a threat
Even if u get water lead, they usually have grass coverage, such as Skarm, which can beat 3 grass, so either way your argument will be:
I Q into fire -> there is algo
I Q into Skarm -> there is algo
The whole point of the video is:
Believing in the algo can handicap your ability to improve.
Does it exist?
The way ppl think, NO
So if you believe in it, up to you my friend
Love how people need to make videos on how the algorithm doesn't exist. But is it really necessary. Just let the people say it.
It's even more complex than that. It's not just 18 base types, the complexity is shifted exponentially by dual typings and movesets.
Like dual typings in grass suck because moveset suck, but all the ground dual typings are amazing because of things like stat product and movesets.
It's deff an algorithm lol I got 8 counters back to back lof venu when i last ran sylvian and venu disappeared when I switched lol they are doing it for equity
Its not complex to program. Its a algorithm by the typings of the pokemon (like they do it in the raids). For example: Gras, fire, water is a match. So you have positiv and negativ matchups depending what you play. If i play gras and get water. Great. If i play gras and get fire. Hate ;)
If you play shadow Gatr, you beat Venu, Trev, All other grass that don't run razor leaf 🙂
@@YasserAleed Venu wins the zero and two shield
Today i played UL and lost again near 100 Points. I Switched my lead to gira. First fight, i get a shiftry. Ha ha ha. Never seen this with my Guzz Lead. And you want to tell me that is coincidence ? All the Pokemon with a dark type move which you see when you play cres or gira. Which you not see so often when you play guzz. Come one ;) Yesterday i Was positiv. Now again. Points gone. Last Season i was 5 points away from legend. I was legend three seasons ago. Its getting harder and harder in my opinion / Feeling. In this season i cant cross 2200....2300 Points. No matter what i play. The opponent has the right answer. More bulk. Atacks....what ever. I think to quit pvp because its time wasting going outside catch good IV pokemon when the game matches you against "corebreaker". I played a few days ago in GL. Mantine lead. I saw so many pokemon with a electric move. And this is random? Later i skiped back to a dragon. Hello ice. When there is no "algorithm" then its for me incomprehensible why Trainers has more "luck" then others.
@@MikeStryder You really think you're the main character? You really think that Niantic has coded a system just to fuck you over?
@@MikeStryderwhat an absolute moron must be 1500 elo
(Shadow dragonite lead): it’s hard to believe there’s not an algorithm after seeing two A9s in 5 sets yesterday, then five in my first 6 battles today. Everybody has to deal with it, and it’s certainly not an excuse for losing, but to me, the shift in Pokémon you see is just too drastic.
Is not A9 one of the most common 3 pokemon in remix 😉
@@YasserAleed yes. It was more about where I saw them on a team and how I’d see them in streaks.
@@panch0bill I am saying A9 and Steelix are very popular in remix, so leading dragonite will come with lots of risk
Best I'd say lead something that can handle both and hide Dragonite in the back
@@YasserAleed I don’t disagree but here’s what I’m saying:
I consider myself to be a very good battler. I actually learned a lot from your videos and made it to legend using your charjabug double-ghost team in the Halloween cup. I know that the only way to legend is skill and good play. I know that sometimes you just get hard countered no matter what team you run. What I’m noticing is the pattern in which the hard counters seem to show up. I ended up seeing 6 A9 leads in 4 sets today. I saw 4 of those in my first set and 2 in the next 3 sets. It’s not that I get hard countered that makes me think there’s an algorithm, it’s how and when I see them.
Easy mode toggled on 😂 I almost fell over
I think the meta is pretty healthy and seems to change about every 12 hours. I dont believe in the algorithm but this season im playing my best and switching my team pretty much every day. When i stop seeing ASlash in the back for 2 sets i stop running talonflame and bring back zygarde. Lost about 100 points Saturday, gained about 150 today...
It is what it is, learn counts, use new fun stuff, try weird movesets.
I really enjoyed trailblaze/cruch greedent in ultra premier
Very nice clip and I watched every second of it. This reminds me of the old content creators. Not sure about the new generation as they love the 10-seconds clips these days. Keep it up man.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Can’t wait for Niantic to add AI bot battlers to GBL so we can fight some chatGPT teams: skarmory double grass in the master league
😂😂
Yasser I appreciate your effort and I do support your content. I was trying to search for evidences and numbers through out your presentation that would totally deny such claim as it is one of the main standards in the scientific methods. I still find it hard to deny such claim for many reasons: 1) Niantic lost the trust of player base long ago starting from banning remote raids and everyone went not paying niantic a penny so trusting their words is not credable anymore. Lastly, even if assume no algorithm and its all our skills as many claim, how is that going to explain many other stuff supported by data such as critical times lags, bots, cheats that know opponents teams and many more that break the fair play system and that's why wolwer stopped as well as many others.
The answer is simple, it does not exist.
Now ppl don't trust Niantic is just another issue, and just coz they don't trust Niantic that does not mean their claims are legit.
I trust the devs at Naintic, and met them multiple times and they confirmed that such a thing does not exist.
Why don't they fix the game?
The answer is coz they are understaffed petty much
Why? For games:
Fixing current content does make $$, while introducing new content is how they make money
Cheating bot is a different issue. But there was only 40-50 ppl using it, and Naintic is working on a new method to ban them, idk if you saw that almost all maps around the world are down coz Niantic is banning bots
How are most or even the best players are at 50ish% win rate? Algo exists.
The best players are absolutely not at 50% win rate. And what do you expect? People to have 60% win rate? Do you know how absurdly improbable that would be in any competitive game where you are always matched at people around the same skill level as you?
@@Liminal-Lagomorph If the best of the best can't break 60% there's something wrong.
@@Woog87 the best of the best are at around 55%. Either you don’t know how statistics work, or you’re underestimating how even in skill/ability the top most dedicated players are. Otherwise people are likely to get an even number of positive sets to negatives, the goal is to keep improving so you eventually get more wins than losses to steadily climb, but you’re not going to be consistently getting 4-1s and 5-0s when you are playing against people in your elo that are probably your equal in skill level. And when you do get the big climbs with 5-0s, you are now at a higher level facing more competent players who have also been winning a lot to get there, and maybe you are not as good as them, so you go negative the next set. That’s not an algorithm thwarting you, that’s other players being better than you.
Probably cause when you take into account all factors there's a 50% chance you have a good lead and 50% you have a bad lead.
Then because you are paired with someone around the same skill level as u. It means your opponent is almost just a as good as you are. This means there's 50/50 chance youll win based on skill.
@@gianz2066 more or less, but losing lead doesn’t necessarily mean losing the game
Algorithm videos is the best way to get views hehe
It's the best video ever! Thanks for explaining the non-existent algorithm to us, the peasants of the GBL community. Players must understand that no Pokemon GO algorithm matches or pairs based on team composition. Matchmaking is based on the ELO Rating System.
Glad you enjoyed it!
In any game there is always a Skill Based Algorithm such as Call of Duty. I think it’s silly that ppl don’t think there is an algorithm in POGO PVP because there absolutely is
Right. There's always a skill based match making in almost every game out today. Especially in games like this. Thinking it's to complex to create is the problem with this video.
He says games have to disclose their match making system when the biggest culprit of this was COD and they denied it for years.
@ThaPosterboy25 I'm glad to see conflicting opinions.
I was on the fence about an algorithm until the discord exploit came out. I was already aware niantic is using Ai for quite a few things and it clicked. It'd be easy for the movesets to be fed to ai for matchmaking. We have gym algorithms and raid algorithm for teams.
Of course people can overcome bad leads or having the underhand. It gets old having the elitist pvp community shooting down every obvious thing.
We have as much evidence of there being an algorithm as we do evidence there isn't. Making a 100% statement either way is 50% to be wrong. Yasser is a great battler but I think he needs to research a little more into the company as a whole, exploits and their tech.
@babydollbecca Agreed. I think the best players are the best players because they can overcome bad leads and make plays average players can not. Thats why they reach legend.
A lot of this video was opinion based. A lot of hard work went into slides that were based on his opinion. Love Yasser but this video was all his personal belief.
I've reached legend before and I usually always hit expert but it wouldn't be right for me to say there isn't a matchmaking algorithm involved.
@ThaPosterboy25 In my opinion, it's actually smart to have an algorithm. It'd be so boring if there wasn't matchmaking of any kind.
I stopped doing GBL regularly because I was getting too annoyed with losing to lag. or bugs. I liked to occasionally delete my saved teams and challenge myself by using the recommended teams. it'd get silly, but that's honestly where I'd see possible matchmaking algorithms. Even in Ace, I'd see things that no one was using until I'd delete my recommended teams.
I appreciate Yasser's battle videos and the time he put into his charts, but you're right, it's all opinion based. we'll never know whether an algorithm exists until niantic admits it, or some type of exploit exposes it. Which I honestly hope happens because Twitter gets toxic with the "you just suck, get gud, there's no matchmaking algorithm."😅
@babydollbecca I agree. I have made some pretty dumb teams before when I was tanking down for go battle weekend and the game would still find that random team I should beat because I'm tanking. It's definitely there. I learned to just accept it just like in Cod , Destiny and any other shooter I play.
I like the part where you actually played the game to prove it. Show some clips. Other than that, I still believe it exists. I shouldn’t be able to swap to a grass lead and predict my opening having a fire/ice/flying lead every time.
@@Rejii16 the nature of the game itself rely on hard counters
I e. Each type beats some types, and gets beaten by other types.
So on paper, you are supposed to get hard countered, and hard counter others
That argument may make ppl think they are getting countered due to a conspiracy which is the algo... But does it exist?
Nope. It is just the nature of the game
Now whether you wanna believe that or not, that is up to you
I appreciate the video. Very well stated! I hope you enjoyed yourself at gofest
Thank you for making this video, I already believe there wasn't algorithm, I encourage algorithm believers to learn the meta and learn to count or learn to vibed out when your opponent is gonna throw. Team building is the foundation to good results and understanding how the metas work, I also encourage people to always check pvpoke for resources on the meta
The algorithm just doesn't make any sense. An algorithm is not a button that can be turned on. It requires coding. Niantic does even care enough to fix the bug ridden pvp, why would they pour resources into coding for algorithm.
At the end of the day, Niantic is about generating profits. If coding for easy mode/hard mode (good one BTW Yasser 😂), then maybe I can see them spending resources to do it. No company will spend money to do something that won't benefit them in anyway.
Good video Yasser! You explained it well. Yet, I bet you there will still be algorithm believers out there 😂
even pvpoke can do realtime team rating including the moves!
Not on the scale we are talking about
i agree we as the pvp players are the algorithm. out side of the leg issues its our own inability to analyze why we lost a match up that keep us from improving. learn to count turns and you will notice a big difference in matchups you would normally get washed.
Sadly fixing PvP is not on Niantic's radar to fix.
So it won't happen anytime soon, as they publicly said PvP is a very small part of the game
It totally does!
Don't spread lies! You are a truth channel!
just run triple charm peepoarrive or wear tinfoil cap and yell john hanke 10 times
I’m sorry but the GBL Match making system needs a major overhaul whether or not we get a Show 6 format or we get an unranked system.
My biggest issue with these algorithm analyses videos is the fact that whenever someone makes a team & is immediately hard countered on their first match they decide to make some adjustments & get hard countered again. That example shows that there is an algorithm (good & bad)
Define hard countered though, that sounds like whinging cope. If you lose lead, are you swapping into a neutral safe swap, or are you bringing in your hard counter to their lead, and then surprise pikachu face when they have something in the back that covers their lead's weaknesses to punish you? It sounds like you are lacking good coverage or reliable safe swaps. This is a massive cope. Just get better.
Isn't there just a 50/50 chance that you either your lead is bad or either its good.
@@gianz2066 no, it’s more like 25% of the time you hard counter them, 25% of the time you’re hard countered, the other 50% of the time are very neutral matchups that can go either way. And losing lead can work to one’s advantage of you win switch and then align your back pokemon that hopefully hard counters their lead with then and hope your lead counters hard their back if it is so weak to their lead.
Pokeak has pushed this prerogative so hard it's actually infuriating to be honest. I'll never understand him, if the system is cracked by nature and he's 100% SURE about it, why does he keep playing it? I call it insanity lol
11:02 i admit that i loose many games sometimes cuz of my garbage plays
But then some games actually like i have 99% win chance like perfect alignment etc like no way I'll loose until i get the stupid weak connection error go battle lag and due to it i loose an 100% winable game
Like niantic should work on their servers
Cheese teams are a way to get a higher win rate as I claimed confirmed 😁
@@YasserAleedi agree with it
I loose due to weak connection even with good team and like good alignments etc like there's no win con for opp but then sometimes
I'm not saying always
That's niantic's fault anyway for not optimizing the game properly
Also, incredibly well explained video my friend :)
Glad you liked it! 😁
Yesssssss thank you
21:00 meanwhile my wr is around 62%
One of the comments I was trying to discuss is a claim that the algo keeps you at 50% wr
Battler on crack with a cracked video 👏
I dont beleive you because whenever I choose a water lead I get grass and when I choose fire lead I get water explain!!11
There’s only limited types and you keep changing your lead
I saw the thumbnail and thought you were mentioning the size of the Wigglett of people that believe in the algorithm
Just don't "play poorly,"😂
dont ping pokek!
servers are shitty cause the algo takes so much ram ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Alogorith, moon landing, 9-11 story, OKC bombing, israel, Epstein, jfk.
Theres a lot of stories but none are real. Get better at the game. Its been very difficult for me i change teams alot.
I like building ABB where A can still beat B and leave low health with energy.
What do you mean 'stories'? All those things are real events, places and people. 😂
I appreciate you being a voice of reason in the community and the effort it took to make this video. I'm sick of people who blame the GBL "Algorithm" instead of acknowledging their own shortcomings as a battler.
@@L_Kell 💜💜
Bro made a 40 min video with 0 data trying to disprove a programming algorithm 🤦♂
In your thinking
What is the data here?
Coz the only way to prove it is De-coding Pokemon go?
18 types not 16.
I’m at like 52% career winning percentage….yesterday I went 19-6 for the day using a specific team. Today I went 1-4 in my first set using that same exact team, changed it up a little to help counter what I was seeing and immediately was hard countered at every position. All that progress I made yesterday was lost today and I’m right back to where I was after going 10-20 for the day. Ya’ll can’t tell me there’s no algorithm keeping me around 50% win percentage.
F it I’m sick of this BS! Want to hit legend every season. Tank your first 500 battles in a row. Yes lose 500 in a row and watch the algo carry you to legend.
Damn, you figured the secret sauce
@@YasserAleed tanking is literally the only way to enjoy this game!
@@EddieJiuJitsu the best way to farm dust :)
For all my algo belivers out there, I. See. You!!! Too many Niantic bootlickers out there, it is so disgusting to see. But the wheels will turn, and when these RUclipsrs just suddenly lose their “skills” they will come to understand.
Until then just ride it out and keep believing!!! Like how does counting help you (a baby can do that) Or throwing on “good” timing (like just throw your best charged move???!?! Wtf) or “understanding” a matchup like uhhh anyone knows grass beats water, water beats fire, fire beats water. These “skills” sounds like concealing discord bot exploitation to me. Shame on you for perpetuating this lie!!!
"Yo no creo en brujas, pero que las hay, las hay."
Iv spent 1000s of dollars of the past 2 years. What convinced me of it is in September 23 I was 80 wins positive at around 2250 after little cup. Highest elo at the time. The rest of the season after that. I lost 700 elo and brought right to 50/50 at 2000 battles played. I have screenshots. Ever since then I struggle hard to get 1000 battles now. Why is 50 percent so important to the coding?
It's what naturally happens in a rock, paper, scissors game.
Because it matches you up with better trainers the higher ELO you are. It’s not based on what team you are running, it’s based on your skill level and ability to keep getting wins against better players. If you consistently hover around 2000, give your trainer code to someone that is consistent around 2500. They’ll smoke you a vast majority of the time.
If there is an algorithm how does anyone hit legend? How are the people who are on leaderboards always on leaderboards?
Your whole comment makes 0 sense.
First if u believe in the "easy mode" u should win easly since u've spent so much.
If u're 80 wins positive in the 2250 and than lose 700 i'm sorry to tell u but u need to improve a lot in pvp.
what do u mean u struggle to get to 1000 battles? are u frustrated cause u're losing? if u wanna compete u need to spend time to learn and practice every aspect of pvp
@@SimonRope94 I’m not arguing for easy mode hard mode. Just explaining my experience.
When you say it would be too “complex” to create an algorithm I believe you. Niantic is too incompetent to create something like that.
But the reason people don’t PvP is because it’s broken. So Niantic is incompetent as usual.
However, there is benefit if they did control the difficulty of the game. It will make people use their resource. They now must grind to renew. This is not anything new and companies had been sued in the past.
Trainers that smoke too much pot would believe there is an algorithm.
I am a 24/7 habitual smoker and I know there is no algorithm
why you attacking stoners?
Guys he's joking 😂i used to smoke myself and i've hit legend multiple times, no need to be too serious over a joke
Are you aware that there's a gym algorithm and raid algorithm? Are you also aware that Niantic uses Ai? Are you aware of the discord exploit that could pull movesets? Do you realize how easy it'd be to feed moves to ai for matchmaking?
@@babydollbeccarelax, he’s a smooth brain 💀
The most curious part of the algorithm is that it only seems to affect unskilled players with fragile egos. Has anyone looked into this correlation?
This was hard to listen to. Edit.
Sorry to hear
Normally I enjoy your content but this is one of the worst analysis videos I have ever seen/heard on the internet in my life. Your repeated assumption Niantic doesn't have the time, resources or capabilities related to these topics, & that everything they say is gospel truth & would never lie, & that the reason why there's no algorithm is because players just need to "get good" is willful blind ignorance. This is the problem with hyper optimistics in this community. They so desperately want to always look on the bright side of everything they make excuses why a multi million/billion dollar company are incapable of ever being dishonest &/or malicious. Honestly it's a very unhealthy way to view reality, especially given Niantic's overwhelmingly terrible track record.
Sometimes the reason is simpler than you think my friend.
And Niantic will never say more than what they said, they simply don't care, and they have a shitty track when it comes to addressing issues in the community.
Now you wanna believe in conspiracy, that is up to you but don't throw shades on the video.
It is not up to me to deny its existence, it is up to the ppl who claimed there is an algo to put out a proof 😉
How do I know about the arguments I mentioned in the video, I simply can tell you that was a discussion with the devs (not like I was believing before)
MMS has always been a hot topic in video games, losers will always want to believe that there is some hidden power that prevents them from winning ... With all duo respect 💜
The greatest video ever made
PokeAk your a bum aka POKEJOKE😂😂😂😂😂
Its like accept you're bad at this game and improve or
Keep yappin about the algo exists and never even try to improve in game like do smth
Best is run algorithm team
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❤🧡💛💚💙💜🖤🤍🤎 Yasser Aleed
Dont put flags here. Keep your flags for yourself.
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