Big business does not care about "environmentally friendly." It only matters to them to the extent that it is a slogan to reduce costs are gain patronage. And the reason they are researching "more sustainable LEGO" is because tax code, specifically in the US, benefits R&D expenditures and to insulate the company from possible future environmental activism. As a CPA that feels the climate issue is exaggerated, if I were LEGO's CPA, I would advise LEGO to do precisely what it is doing.
Lego should do it like the HotWheels blindbags. Mattel actually printed a small serialnumber on the back of the bag that represents the car inside. Each car has a fixed number and you can identify it via the number hidden on the bag. If you know it you can find what you desire. Kids and randoms still get the blind experience. Both win !
Except the “both” that win are consumers who know about the codes, and Mattel (because most buyers probably won’t know). Typical buyers are still being taken advantage of. Unless you think there really is a significant group of people who _want_ to not be able to choose what they’re buying, when there’s no chance of a valuable find? I understand the allure of actual gambling: I pay $5 for the small random chance that I bought a $100 (or $1M, or whatever) ticket. And with something like M:tG cards, there’s both the deckbuilding-strategy part of blind bags and the possibility that you get an ultrarare. But with toys where every option is equally rare, and therefore the resale value is roughly the same, what sort of buyer would _prefer_ not to know?
I hope you’re right! Considering hasbro’s non plastic eco-friendly packaging lasted for such a short period, I wouldn’t be the same if LEGO goes through the same.
I’ve already found 3 of the new CMF figures that were clearly opened and taped back shut. Honestly, a better idea would be to include some small hint or code to indicate what the figure will be on the box. Helps collectors find a full set easily and helps Lego keep their motion of environmentally friendly packaging.
Yeah like the HotWheels blindbags. Mattel actually printed a small serialnumber on the back of the bag that represents the car inside. Each car has a fixed number and you can identify it via the number hidden on the bag. If you know it you can find what you desire. Kids and randoms still get the blind experience. Both win !
Which shouldn't be the case, as more who do that will only raise the prices for these even further, when people should be comfortable to purchase them at retail.
@@PenPlays I don’t know about price gouging or raising the price I’m slowly putting together a marvel series one and the prices are only a little bit more than retail only a couple figures are twice as retail so like $15. And that’s not too bad considering they are you know thousand dollar Lego mini figures out there.
@@tompatchak8706but dont compare it in LEGO prices. Look at what you get (a small plastic figure) and how much 15$ gets you everywhere else. This is out of control. There are fully articulated super detailed big actionfigures out there for that pricetag. It’s just not worth it. Too much money for a small plastic figure.
I don’t think Lego is trying to be environmentally friendly. It’s like how Disney is trying to be inclusive. They keep pushing it on us and we hate it but they don’t do anything about it
I think a way to very easily solve this problem is sell these as regular sets. Give us the 12 nicely detailed figures and a brick built display stand and sell it for like £60-80. Gives people all the figures and a nice little way to display them.
I think the most obvious sovultion is to stop making these series blind. Keep using the boxes, but have a picture of what figure is inside. Still eco-friendly, and most customers won't tear them open. It does mean lego makes less money from people buying dupes, and undesired figures will plague store shelves, so it'll probably never happen :(
Watching this video from the future: I can tell you my response to the boxes has been to significantly raise the threshold for buying any at all. For Marvel 2, I saw 1 figure I really wanted, 2 I sorta wanted, 4 more that were worth the price, and 5 that would be a waste of $5 for me. Faced with odds ranging from 58% to 8% of getting a mini I wanted (depending how you define “want”), I just decided not to buy any. For Series 25, all of the minifigs interested me at least a little, and in a situation where I didn’t have to guess I would’ve bought 10-11 of them, and I wanted multiples of 4-8 of them. I hadn’t decided what to do when I lucked into Target stocking them, so I bought an entire case (3 complete sets). I opened that in my car to check the locations in the box of the ones I wanted more than three of, and then went back inside, found an untouched case, and grabbed those successfully. I’ve got 6 goats! 😁 But if I hadn’t found an untouched case, I probably would’ve just bought the 3-4 I most wanted second-hand. Or bought none and grumbled. For Series 26, someone had cracked the barcodes on the boxes, so I spent about an hour scanning to find the ones I was interested in. But I again wanted 11 of the 12 and didn’t consider the 12th a waste of money, and I wanted multiples of 5-6 of them, so I probably would’ve bought a whole case again if I’d run into the opportunity. But that’s rarely going to be the case. I suspect for future, if I can’t scan to find the specific minifigs I want, blind boxes means that Lego is saving me a bunch of money, because I’m just not going to play that game unless I want basically every minifig in a series, and that’s almost never the case. I bought several of the Disney 100 series because I could feel them out. If I’d had to grab them randomly, I would’ve bought zero-not enough of them that I cared about to waste the money on the ones that would just sit in my parts bin.
Making the first series Marvel series 2 could amplify the issue of boxes being torn into even further. Vidiyo was a very unpopular theme overall, and the Mario figures are not to everyone's liking, but Marvel series 2 has been one of the most requested CMFs for some time. Significantly more people will be extremely interested in this series, which means significantly more bad actors tearing the boxes to shreds. Outside of a Star Wars CMF, Marvel Series 2 is the most popular series they could've chosen. It'll mean high sales, but also high rates of theft. I personally will not pick up a single one of these, amd just buy the figures I'm interested in on the aftermarket.
Yep. The blind-packages craze maximizes sales. Of course then there's the adrenaline from gambling that kids should not be subjected too, feeding into it as well.
I don’t know why lego doesn’t go to paper bags, I get they could easily rip when being felt, or even eco friendly packaging that is still similar to the original plastic packaging, if that even exists
For this set, I found some people on my local Facebook lego group to split a sealed box of the figures so we can each get a full set. For future sets, with figures I don't want at all and figures I'll want multiples of, I'm not sure how it will work.
Where/how do you do that? Do you have a local retailer who will set aside an unopened box for you? Or just hope you luck into when a Lego Store or big box store is putting out new inventory and grab a case before people have a chance to paw through it?
For me, even before the blind box transition, I haven't been really invested in these collectible minifigure series as I used to be and with direction its been going by shifting to boxes, I don't believe its going to last much longer. The $5 base price likely did not help matters either as there are plenty of sets as of today that offer better value than a complete series of minifigures. I'd argue there are sets that were released a while ago that would have been better candidates for including some of these figures rather than having them for sale individually in those blind bag/box series .
I just want to say that I went to my local Walmart and I literally saw the box figure opened thankfully I had all these pieces inside and so I just bought it but it was tearing open already
As someone who’s been collecting the minifigures line for 13 years, I’m too far in to stop now in my opinion. It’s my favorite theme, and I’m personally going to use a scale. However, I am terrified that if people stop buying them Lego will stop making the minifigures line entirely. It’s proven to be an evergreen theme, and I would hate to see it stop now
I mean I just buy the guaranteed 6 unique minifigures from lego directly and hope I get the full series. So I’m not gonna be effected to terribly much Also I haven’t seen any crystalized sets with paper bags inside them like the video you made showed in the thumbnail
I’ve been lucky enough to happen upon a fresh case for the last 3 three series of line boxes. I’ve got the whole set and one take with a few extra that I could trade away. Now with a Marvel Sag almost completely done, all I need is a wolverine. I’m not gonna go by anymore. I’ll wait till one pops up on eBay and pick it up that way or trade the extras that I have and I think I only have like five extras so they didn’t get that much more money than me only $25 more and I will probably use that to buy alcohol anyways
Correction: Lego made forced you to buy a pocket scale for $8 on Amazon. You do know that Lego owns the patent for pocket scales right? They're deliberately trying to make more money off you.
I think the concerns among the AFOL community are overblown, and I certainly don’t think that Lego’s bean-counters pushed thru blind boxes with some deluded hope that it would increase profits. Will some blind boxes be ripped open inside stores? Sure, but I also found countless blind bags ripped open too. (Kids are notoriously impatient.) Will the destruction increase enough to measurably affect sales on a large scale? I doubt it. Time will tell, but I don’t think blind boxes will be a big deal a year from now.
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Big business does not care about "environmentally friendly." It only matters to them to the extent that it is a slogan to reduce costs are gain patronage. And the reason they are researching "more sustainable LEGO" is because tax code, specifically in the US, benefits R&D expenditures and to insulate the company from possible future environmental activism. As a CPA that feels the climate issue is exaggerated, if I were LEGO's CPA, I would advise LEGO to do precisely what it is doing.
That insight really puts things into perspective. I appreciate it.
Lego should do it like the HotWheels blindbags. Mattel actually printed a small serialnumber on the back of the bag that represents the car inside. Each car has a fixed number and you can identify it via the number hidden on the bag. If you know it you can find what you desire. Kids and randoms still get the blind experience. Both win !
Except the “both” that win are consumers who know about the codes, and Mattel (because most buyers probably won’t know). Typical buyers are still being taken advantage of.
Unless you think there really is a significant group of people who _want_ to not be able to choose what they’re buying, when there’s no chance of a valuable find?
I understand the allure of actual gambling: I pay $5 for the small random chance that I bought a $100 (or $1M, or whatever) ticket.
And with something like M:tG cards, there’s both the deckbuilding-strategy part of blind bags and the possibility that you get an ultrarare.
But with toys where every option is equally rare, and therefore the resale value is roughly the same, what sort of buyer would _prefer_ not to know?
I hope you’re right! Considering hasbro’s non plastic eco-friendly packaging lasted for such a short period, I wouldn’t be the same if LEGO goes through the same.
I’ve already found 3 of the new CMF figures that were clearly opened and taped back shut. Honestly, a better idea would be to include some small hint or code to indicate what the figure will be on the box. Helps collectors find a full set easily and helps Lego keep their motion of environmentally friendly packaging.
I forgot to add the full quote to the video suggesting they had no plans to do so, but, as always, leave the future open to possibility.
Yeah like the HotWheels blindbags. Mattel actually printed a small serialnumber on the back of the bag that represents the car inside. Each car has a fixed number and you can identify it via the number hidden on the bag. If you know it you can find what you desire. Kids and randoms still get the blind experience. Both win !
Tough paper bags. Tough paper bags.
I think at the very least this change will push more (myself included) to look towards the secondhand market for the specific figures they want.
Which shouldn't be the case, as more who do that will only raise the prices for these even further, when people should be comfortable to purchase them at retail.
@@PenPlays You make a valid point with the price increase.
@@PenPlays I don’t know about price gouging or raising the price I’m slowly putting together a marvel series one and the prices are only a little bit more than retail only a couple figures are twice as retail so like $15. And that’s not too bad considering they are you know thousand dollar Lego mini figures out there.
@@tompatchak8706but dont compare it in LEGO prices. Look at what you get (a small plastic figure) and how much 15$ gets you everywhere else. This is out of control. There are fully articulated super detailed big actionfigures out there for that pricetag. It’s just not worth it. Too much money for a small plastic figure.
@@xhearthfirex6571 I dig it. That’s why I’ll never buy those super expensive mini figures.
Just not worth it
I don’t think Lego is trying to be environmentally friendly. It’s like how Disney is trying to be inclusive.
They keep pushing it on us and we hate it but they don’t do anything about it
It’s basically green marketing because this does nothing in grand scheme of things
I know for certain i won’t be buying anymore minifigures until they go back to bags. Would get a full set day 1 but that is stopping.
I think a way to very easily solve this problem is sell these as regular sets. Give us the 12 nicely detailed figures and a brick built display stand and sell it for like £60-80. Gives people all the figures and a nice little way to display them.
I think the most obvious sovultion is to stop making these series blind. Keep using the boxes, but have a picture of what figure is inside. Still eco-friendly, and most customers won't tear them open. It does mean lego makes less money from people buying dupes, and undesired figures will plague store shelves, so it'll probably never happen :(
Personally I haven't really noticed any print quality issues on Legos recently. But then again, I haven't bought a set since spring soo.... Yeah😅
I’ve even seen the plastic polybags torn up in Targets. Yeah I hate that people here do this since cardboard blind boxes are the norm in Asia
Watching this video from the future: I can tell you my response to the boxes has been to significantly raise the threshold for buying any at all.
For Marvel 2, I saw 1 figure I really wanted, 2 I sorta wanted, 4 more that were worth the price, and 5 that would be a waste of $5 for me. Faced with odds ranging from 58% to 8% of getting a mini I wanted (depending how you define “want”), I just decided not to buy any.
For Series 25, all of the minifigs interested me at least a little, and in a situation where I didn’t have to guess I would’ve bought 10-11 of them, and I wanted multiples of 4-8 of them. I hadn’t decided what to do when I lucked into Target stocking them, so I bought an entire case (3 complete sets). I opened that in my car to check the locations in the box of the ones I wanted more than three of, and then went back inside, found an untouched case, and grabbed those successfully. I’ve got 6 goats! 😁 But if I hadn’t found an untouched case, I probably would’ve just bought the 3-4 I most wanted second-hand. Or bought none and grumbled.
For Series 26, someone had cracked the barcodes on the boxes, so I spent about an hour scanning to find the ones I was interested in. But I again wanted 11 of the 12 and didn’t consider the 12th a waste of money, and I wanted multiples of 5-6 of them, so I probably would’ve bought a whole case again if I’d run into the opportunity. But that’s rarely going to be the case.
I suspect for future, if I can’t scan to find the specific minifigs I want, blind boxes means that Lego is saving me a bunch of money, because I’m just not going to play that game unless I want basically every minifig in a series, and that’s almost never the case. I bought several of the Disney 100 series because I could feel them out. If I’d had to grab them randomly, I would’ve bought zero-not enough of them that I cared about to waste the money on the ones that would just sit in my parts bin.
Making the first series Marvel series 2 could amplify the issue of boxes being torn into even further. Vidiyo was a very unpopular theme overall, and the Mario figures are not to everyone's liking, but Marvel series 2 has been one of the most requested CMFs for some time. Significantly more people will be extremely interested in this series, which means significantly more bad actors tearing the boxes to shreds. Outside of a Star Wars CMF, Marvel Series 2 is the most popular series they could've chosen. It'll mean high sales, but also high rates of theft. I personally will not pick up a single one of these, amd just buy the figures I'm interested in on the aftermarket.
If boxes are torn, what prevent stores to put them next/in front of the cashier ?
That's how it is France (as well as Pokémon boosters...)
Nothing. Some stores in the US already have that even, but not all stores do.
So this is why I keep seeing commercials for surprise toys.
Yep. The blind-packages craze maximizes sales. Of course then there's the adrenaline from gambling that kids should not be subjected too, feeding into it as well.
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then again people dont want to constantly spending 5$ over and over and over again
I don’t know why lego doesn’t go to paper bags, I get they could easily rip when being felt, or even eco friendly packaging that is still similar to the original plastic packaging, if that even exists
Im glad the qr codes now are a thing- it feels so much less of a gamble.
Happy they've found a solution, and a quick one at that!
I’ve come across several ripped Mario Figures. I’d say close to 50% of the time and majority of them left the figures inside.
For this set, I found some people on my local Facebook lego group to split a sealed box of the figures so we can each get a full set. For future sets, with figures I don't want at all and figures I'll want multiples of, I'm not sure how it will work.
Where/how do you do that? Do you have a local retailer who will set aside an unopened box for you? Or just hope you luck into when a Lego Store or big box store is putting out new inventory and grab a case before people have a chance to paw through it?
For me, even before the blind box transition, I haven't been really invested in these collectible minifigure series as I used to be and with direction its been going by shifting to boxes, I don't believe its going to last much longer. The $5 base price likely did not help matters either as there are plenty of sets as of today that offer better value than a complete series of minifigures. I'd argue there are sets that were released a while ago that would have been better candidates for including some of these figures rather than having them for sale individually in those blind bag/box series .
I just want to say that I went to my local Walmart and I literally saw the box figure opened thankfully I had all these pieces inside and so I just bought it but it was tearing open already
I have seen these boxes all ripped opened in the stores.
Could the mini figures stay at Lego Cities and Towns?
I went to Kohl's and found at least 6 boxes opened and one sealed
As someone who’s been collecting the minifigures line for 13 years, I’m too far in to stop now in my opinion. It’s my favorite theme, and I’m personally going to use a scale. However, I am terrified that if people stop buying them Lego will stop making the minifigures line entirely. It’s proven to be an evergreen theme, and I would hate to see it stop now
I like your confidence in this and hope you are right
I appreciate it.
@@PenPlays no problem legend
I mean I just buy the guaranteed 6 unique minifigures from lego directly and hope I get the full series. So I’m not gonna be effected to terribly much
Also I haven’t seen any crystalized sets with paper bags inside them like the video you made showed in the thumbnail
The idea is to imply it's from a Ninjago set. You should give the video a watch!
@@PenPlays I made a comment on it like a few hours after you uploaded it in 2022 where you replied saying crystalized sets would eventually get them
That was before LEGO finally communicated their roadmap for them, which like always, is super suuuuuuper slow
I’ll probably just buy a 6 pack or two online and then just get whatever I didn’t get on secondary markets. I’m not happy about the change though.
I’ve been lucky enough to happen upon a fresh case for the last 3 three series of line boxes. I’ve got the whole set and one take with a few extra that I could trade away. Now with a Marvel Sag almost completely done, all I need is a wolverine. I’m not gonna go by anymore. I’ll wait till one pops up on eBay and pick it up that way or trade the extras that I have and I think I only have like five extras so they didn’t get that much more money than me only $25 more and I will probably use that to buy alcohol anyways
I’m just gonna go on release day early use the codes and weights to get them all then watch what ever happen happen
Just so you know, the "codes" don't work. Weight should get you far tho.
I bought a pocket scale on Amazon for $8
Then you are ready!
Correction: Lego made forced you to buy a pocket scale for $8 on Amazon. You do know that Lego owns the patent for pocket scales right? They're deliberately trying to make more money off you.
I think the concerns among the AFOL community are overblown, and I certainly don’t think that Lego’s bean-counters pushed thru blind boxes with some deluded hope that it would increase profits.
Will some blind boxes be ripped open inside stores? Sure, but I also found countless blind bags ripped open too. (Kids are notoriously impatient.) Will the destruction increase enough to measurably affect sales on a large scale? I doubt it.
Time will tell, but I don’t think blind boxes will be a big deal a year from now.
I’ve come across several ripped Mario Figures. I’d say close to 50% of the time and majority of them left the figures inside.