Sonic 3's Endless Mine: Music Theory

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  • Опубликовано: 12 янв 2025

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  • @mypkamax
    @mypkamax 4 года назад +600

    I guess you could say that the whole Sonic series soundtrack is an _endless mine..._

  • @Ellzia
    @Ellzia 4 года назад +90

    Oh my fucking god you just exploded my mind when I saw that sonic mania’s MAIN MOTIF is just fucking ENDLESS MINE!

  • @Kitty.3782
    @Kitty.3782 4 года назад +537

    You’re criminally underrated

  • @PhirePhlame
    @PhirePhlame 4 года назад +401

    As a kid, I wouldn't have gotten why it made ppl wanna cry (though rest assured that I understand now). For me, I was addicted to this song because it made me feel really happy in a strange, new and strong way, unlike anything I'd ever felt before in my child life; and I just couldn't get enough of it!
    To this day, it remains a comfort song of mine.

    • @sandakureva
      @sandakureva 3 года назад +20

      It's kind of a bittersweet feeling.

    • @yytyyy5329
      @yytyyy5329 3 года назад +1

      Som people overreact

    • @elesfinter9753
      @elesfinter9753 3 года назад +13

      Nostalgia is the combination of both sad and happiness, maybe that's why you felt happy in a strange way while others felt sad in a weird way.
      This feeling happens to me with the Mario Land theme

    • @EldiniTheGenie
      @EldiniTheGenie 3 года назад +6

      I’m still a young lad going through my childhood still and I have that feeling as well. It’s such a bittersweet song like the others said and it also feels reassuring. It tells you to not give up and move forward and I like that.

    • @zuqivlex3
      @zuqivlex3 3 года назад

      this song gives me no emotional feeling

  • @askeleton6240
    @askeleton6240 4 года назад +135

    this makes me happy to see someone who hears endless mine zone instead of city escape when they hear those notes

    • @comedicpsychnerd
      @comedicpsychnerd 3 года назад +13

      Yes but it’s awesome how they used the melody for city escape in generations

    • @askeleton6240
      @askeleton6240 3 года назад +7

      @@comedicpsychnerd it is

  • @Electrosa
    @Electrosa 3 года назад +174

    I'd like to thank you for the bits of this video where you sang examples yourself - not only is your voice lovely, but they were incredibly effective illustrations. Your points were that much easier to get with your great examples beside them!

  • @AskDrannik
    @AskDrannik 3 года назад +74

    It's funny how you mention this "nostalgic sadness" that comes from the song's construction, because I feel the same way with Sonic 3D Blast's end credits theme for the Genesis version, knowing that that was Sonic's last Genesis outing, plus also being one of the last official games released for the console. It just gives off this "end of an era" vibe, and I wonder if that's what Jun Senoue intended.

    • @hacksmash
      @hacksmash 6 дней назад

      how did you feel when you noticed they used it to reveal sonic mania?

  • @jordy_de-zee
    @jordy_de-zee 2 года назад +24

    endless mine
    0:45 endless mine section a
    0:50 rhythm
    1:18 city escape opening vocal line
    1:48 city escape verse 2
    1:57 city escape (generations) verse 2
    2:10 title theme
    2:30 twinkle park racing section
    2:40 panic puppet zone
    2:57 final boss
    the ice cream changes
    3:26 a teenager in love
    3:41 endless mine section a
    3:56 me!
    4:03 baby
    4:11 Friday
    4:17 every breath you take
    chromatic descending tonic of minor chord
    4:51 example
    5:01 endless mine section c
    5:16 starlight zone
    5:26 mystic mansion
    7th note
    6:31 endless mine section a
    6:47 title screen
    7:07 someone like you

  • @Spiceopod
    @Spiceopod 4 года назад +61

    As someone who has just begun studying music composition and got here due to his love of classic video game soundtracks, including this very song... thank you for making this. Also, kudos for getting around copyright issues by singing the mainstream record label songs yourself. That's handy, lol
    Well, time to watch your entire catalogue!

  • @cutman3931
    @cutman3931 4 года назад +75

    2:49 i'll be excited if you ever make a music theory about this song

  • @ardklaw
    @ardklaw 4 года назад +75

    Another awesome analysis, love it! I had no idea Endless Mine's melody pops up in so much other Sonic music, that's mindblowing. Also, OOT's title music is such a perfect example of the major 7th having a nostalgic quality! Keep it up man 👍

  • @MajWinters100
    @MajWinters100 3 года назад +6

    Bro, nice singing. Unironically. Also, nice videos. It has been a blast looking at music theory using sonic.
    Edit: And nice gags.

  • @PoisonousPen
    @PoisonousPen 3 года назад +23

    Yep :) can confirm. As an 8 year old playing this game, I used to play this level on repeat to listen to this song. It felt so nostalgic, like it was unlocking a long forgotten memory I didn’t know I had. Like saying hello or even goodbye to an old friend 🤷‍♂️
    As a kid, I just assumed that this was the place on Angel Island that Knuckles had been born, as it was underground, the music was nostalgic and you could actually play as him here 👍😅

    • @AroundTheBlockAgain
      @AroundTheBlockAgain Год назад +1

      I'm absolutely incorporating "Knuckles was born in Endless Mine" into my headcanon, thank you!

    • @PoisonousPen
      @PoisonousPen Год назад +2

      @@AroundTheBlockAgain 😄👍
      Nice! Thanks man 😁
      It just made sense to my 8 year old brain. Glad I could help 👌

  • @LiquidButterAlternative
    @LiquidButterAlternative 2 года назад +3

    The singing is beautiful.

  • @ahd4415
    @ahd4415 4 года назад +7

    Wait what the fuck??? That's why this 1 esoteric song is so familiar?? It's been reused everywhere??? From twinkle park's race section, sonic mania's title screen, and even city escape to some extent... That's fuckin insane

    • @0n1c420
      @0n1c420 3 года назад

      Why are you saying what the fuck.

  • @braven_iss
    @braven_iss 4 года назад +22

    This is a video I didn't know I needed, and I'm so happy to finally learn about it being referenced in Mania. Thank you for this.

  • @fionathefox8945
    @fionathefox8945 4 года назад +15

    Dude this is the same progression I been talking about for years and you got it spot on especially with twinkle park. Most of my fave sonic songs have this

  • @seraphsclaws2997
    @seraphsclaws2997 4 года назад +41

    Thank you Cyber Shell for showing me this channel.

  • @yourmedz8389
    @yourmedz8389 4 года назад +41

    I didn't expect this video to be made so well and peak my interest in music theory. I felt like I've learned something of value watching this. Keep it up, also great singing voice btw.

  • @soronexle2681
    @soronexle2681 3 года назад +15

    I gotta say, you have a great singing voice. Loved the video as well.

  • @Fantome001
    @Fantome001 2 года назад +2

    I had no idea a lot of other people felt sad while listening to Endless Mine. Even back then, I thought it was just me being overly sentimental.

  • @DonoDeluxe
    @DonoDeluxe 3 года назад +15

    Binging all of your music theory vids rn. This one was my favorite, I love this song so much (:

  • @InfestedPie
    @InfestedPie 4 года назад +8

    Looks like I finally got my answer.
    Amazing video, it's genuinely moving to see a breakdown of music that imprinted on me so strongly when I was a child.

  • @marxunemiku
    @marxunemiku 4 года назад +34

    i just remembered ullillillia and wondered if he died and then found this channel, seconds after, you upload.

    • @silversobe
      @silversobe 4 года назад +3

      He is still active on his platform masters facebook page. facebook.com/platformmasters

    • @crystallastname9675
      @crystallastname9675 3 года назад +1

      ? I do not understand the relevance

  • @FungiGamer
    @FungiGamer 3 года назад +10

    I always thought Mania’s theme was based on Puppet Panic, never realized that also shared Endless Mine’s rhythm

  • @SteffyCush
    @SteffyCush 4 года назад +14

    woow, had no idea about this being a motif, especially one being used so often!

  • @BreadandFaxes
    @BreadandFaxes 3 года назад +7

    The chromatic descent is powerful. It makes me feel something close to sadness but also happy every time it is used.

  • @sonicadventure3130
    @sonicadventure3130 3 года назад +1

    Sonic Generations’ version of the song City Escape has a section that switches the melody of the lyrics to that of Endless Mine.

  • @TSMSnation
    @TSMSnation 4 года назад +20

    2:07 yo...yo dog.. thats like finding out your wife is actually the girl you where friends with for that short while during your second move.

    • @x-mighty7602
      @x-mighty7602 3 года назад +1

      This reminds me of a funny story. When i was in 4th grade, i had a friend whose name was Nicholas. A year later, i changed schools and thought i would never seen him again, but when i was in 8th grade, i came back to that school and i found a person who was familiar for me, i became his friend, then days later, i realised he was Nicholas. Maybe i'm just dumb, but that was interesting.

  • @sandakureva
    @sandakureva 4 года назад +4

    This video answered so many of my questions. Subscribed.

  • @xZippy
    @xZippy 4 года назад +48

    The effort put into this... You deserve 900,000 views at least.

    • @joseph-fernando-piano
      @joseph-fernando-piano 3 года назад +2

      I'm sure you didn't mean it that way, but I just found it funny that you'd say the video deserves 900,000 views specifically rather than 1 million...

    • @xZippy
      @xZippy 3 года назад

      @@joseph-fernando-piano I said "at least".

  • @Reliken
    @Reliken 4 года назад +9

    Wow! Never seen anything by you before, but this was insightful and clear and fun and accessible! Great stuff. Gonna check out more of your stuff now!

  • @mickabajerski4985
    @mickabajerski4985 4 года назад +4

    yeah, this song press my feelings, makes me emotional to cry, remembers me, ESCAPE FRMO THE CITY, LIVE AND LEARN, AND SONIC 2006 HIS WORLD

  • @Jrock24cantbebeat
    @Jrock24cantbebeat 3 года назад +1

    Rollin' around, at the speed of sound!

  • @spiraltawa6320
    @spiraltawa6320 3 года назад +2

    I'm very glad that there are people who appreciate S3&K's compositions.
    The amount of attention to subtle details in these tracks and effort you put in these videos is incredible.
    Those comments you mentioned in the video don't lie; I also found Endless Mine theme melancholic when I was 6, and now it feels nostalgic and still sad to me.
    I've loved this game's soundtrack since childhood and you've made me love it even more now. Very well done !

  • @parttimelazy4593
    @parttimelazy4593 2 года назад +1

    "During the final boss sequence where Sonic fights Robotnik on the dance floor of Micheal Jackson's Billy Jean music video-"
    *Excuse me, Sonic does what*

  • @blakfloyd
    @blakfloyd 3 года назад +4

    Thanks for makin these, dude. Your videos always put me in a good place.

  • @ИринаМ-ю1е
    @ИринаМ-ю1е 3 года назад +3

    When I first heard Endless Mine as a kid, it was love at first note, I guess. I even had dreams about different covers of this tune. I'm glad to see it's really exceptional.

  • @Solesteam
    @Solesteam 3 года назад +1

    I'm tearing up even with you talking over it and pausing it for demonstrations.

  • @l4nternz
    @l4nternz 3 года назад +1

    Maybe the reason the strong use of the 7th degree in a melody can feel so nostalgic because its this absolute longing to return to the roots, to the home key and that tension that comes with it, and also dissonance from being one of 2 notes being a semitone interval and having more weight

  • @masterofdoom5000
    @masterofdoom5000 3 года назад +1

    Breathtaking karaoke of those songs sir!

  • @henriquehatta8124
    @henriquehatta8124 4 года назад +2

    Woah, Thank you to RUclips recommendations for showing me your channel! Subscribed!

  • @Tracequaza
    @Tracequaza 3 года назад +1

    nice analysis! the video editing is really good and it helps to understand all the complicated details you go through in a concise way.

  • @knightmare39
    @knightmare39 4 года назад +6

    Man this series of videos is excellent, I hope you cover Chrome Gadget at some point, it's probably my favorite song from the classic series.

  • @MicahBuzanANIMATION
    @MicahBuzanANIMATION 3 года назад +2

    I never realized this song went this deep and wide. Cool!

  • @coffeecat2812
    @coffeecat2812 3 года назад +2

    You have a great singing voice, and your examples are a pleasure to listen to.

  • @chriswebber6773
    @chriswebber6773 Год назад

    I love this video, I just want to express my gratitude for the amount of work and effort you put into these. This song absolutely has made me feel something my entire life and I always am grounded and returned to that "feeling" every time I hear it. Thank you for deconstructing it into a digestible format.

  • @WadeWojcik
    @WadeWojcik 8 месяцев назад

    I was about 10 seconds into this video and I already loved it. This song meant so much to me as a kid but I never got the grasp of why. Thank you so much for this amazing analysis!!

  • @johnmoser3594
    @johnmoser3594 3 года назад +3

    I always found this song happy and bright. Never thought it'd be considered a sad, emotional piece.
    Also blue. (Twinkle Park is pink)

  • @dorocook1426
    @dorocook1426 3 года назад +2

    this channel is a hidden gem

  • @sonic8122Fan26
    @sonic8122Fan26 4 года назад +8

    Good video good video, this content majorly interests me. Sonic and music? What’s not to love. Keep it up!

  • @michaelsbasement
    @michaelsbasement 2 года назад +1

    7:55 that is actual beauty, its so, so damn simple, yet its so powerful, but also so subtle at the same time

  • @catherinehaslam4325
    @catherinehaslam4325 4 года назад +4

    This song doesn’t make my cry it makes me want to dance

  • @Nic_2751
    @Nic_2751 Год назад

    Fr man like they just made a perfect melody and never let it go, it’s so beautiful for all the right reasons

  • @brokenscart7989
    @brokenscart7989 3 года назад +2

    The older I get the more I appreciate the Competition music. This particular track always had an effect on me though. It’s a masterpiece

  • @SpikedPie
    @SpikedPie 2 года назад

    Man, I'm so glad I found your videos because despite having no drive to practice any music I find musical Theory infinitely interesting and I'm super appreciative for the depth you go into each of these songs! There's other channels where musical expert listen to a song and go "ha ha yup, this is good" and say basically nothing else, and then there's ones who's depth have taught me a lot and given me a greater appreciation for the thought and work that goes into writing Great and Fitting music for all kinds of media.
    The simplicity of your explanations somehow has granted me more "aha!" moments than any other channel I've watched before. and I had to come back after a few days and leave this comment because this song in particular is one I'd never listened to or heard of before watching your video, but it makes me want to cry. And thanks to the care you put into the video I know exactly why that is.

  • @UnsortedSeeds
    @UnsortedSeeds Год назад

    This piece of music made me cry so much when I first heard it as a kid, and I never knew why lol. Even now it has this sad quality to it that makes me tear up, except that it really is actual nostalgia. This game (the two cartridges together) was the last time I ever enjoyed a Sonic game - it's been decades. None that came after this really captured the feeling in either gameplay or music.
    I recently watched the Sonic 2 movie, and the nostalgia it brought up made me seek out Sonic 3 content again lol. And I found this channel.

  • @tae-yunlee7658
    @tae-yunlee7658 2 года назад

    Endless Mine gripped me in a way no other sonic song has.
    the amount of 🤯 in each of your videos! songs i grew up with since i was 5 -12 years old now taking on deeper connections 🤯
    thank you!

  • @2Qwuik
    @2Qwuik 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for crediting my endless mine video lol (Ik i have been a year late but thanks for the credit)

    • @AlexYardZone
      @AlexYardZone  3 года назад +2

      Haha absolutely, all the thanks goes to you!

  • @budgoodrich6000
    @budgoodrich6000 3 года назад

    I lost track of how many times I've watched this video. You're so well spoken and informed about music theory, and present it all in such a digestible and entertaining way.
    Love it, man. Love it all.

  • @zephyrus001
    @zephyrus001 2 года назад

    What a lovely video. It's comforting to know others valued this music the same way I do and did when I was a child. It was an important part of my inner life and though it seemed like such a private thing at the time, it turns out there were many others having the same experience.

  • @liliflower1376
    @liliflower1376 3 года назад +1

    I just keep watching these videos over and over, i love them so much

  • @anonymous82783
    @anonymous82783 Год назад

    I don't know anything about music, but this video is some professional production, and I'm really impressed. You certainly deserve more than 30K subscribers.

  • @SamusKerrigan
    @SamusKerrigan 3 месяца назад

    The melancholic nostalgia we feel is because we have heard this before in Queen's "Love of my life" 0:16 *Love of my life, don't leave me* And we all love and miss Freddie

  • @rightwing707
    @rightwing707 3 года назад

    Okay, this one was just mind blowing. I knew the EXACT moments in City Escape and the Mania title screen theme as soon as I saw them on the timeline graphic. No wonder Mania's title left such a lasting impression on me, it's just stuffed with Genesis goodness. I love that you covered the versus zone themes, always felt they were super underrated.

  • @AroundTheBlockAgain
    @AroundTheBlockAgain Год назад

    This is the first video I've watched from you and was pleasantly surprised to hear you sing the example songs. That was a treat and effective! Also I started losing my mind when you sang "Baby" with the reverb on (and all the other songs in that section) because it is one thing to know "yeah a lot of songs use the same chord progressions". It is an ENTIRELY different feeling to have them presented rapid-fire like that. Loved that. XD

  • @EthanMickanen
    @EthanMickanen 2 года назад

    I know this video is 2 years old at the time of me commenting this, but I love your work! I’ve always been interested in music theory and leitmotifs as such, and to see Endless Mine’s brilliance be referenced in other sonic games and even parts of the song be found in popular non video game music is super cool! Great work!

  • @UmbralMachine
    @UmbralMachine 2 года назад

    Sonic music defined my childhood, and influences my adult life still. The way that all these songs share DNA is like having a direct line to those memories some 30 years ago.

  • @matthewfunk6435
    @matthewfunk6435 3 года назад

    i just found this channel and i really appreciate the detail and humor on display. i never learned to read sheet music but i never feel lost either. exceptionally explained.

  • @sprescav
    @sprescav 3 года назад

    I always had a fascination about Sonic BGMs, since Sonic 1 was released to be precise, and I find your explenations and theories about the music SO relevant to my personal life, that I want to say thankyou... so Thankyou very much!

  • @qaaris4280
    @qaaris4280 3 года назад +1

    I like that the elevator goes through "1 2 3 K M"
    Basically, SEGA hates Sonic 4 and doesn't want to acknowledge it.

  • @gamemaniack
    @gamemaniack 3 года назад +1

    endless mine made people cry? it always sounded like a relaxing song to me.

  • @victorlgcarvalho
    @victorlgcarvalho 2 года назад

    I really love this song.
    I spent so many hours on the sound test of the Genesis' Sonic games just marveling at these songs...

  • @Pickyjonez
    @Pickyjonez 3 года назад

    Endless Mine has always been my number one! Great video

  • @mackenziez9595
    @mackenziez9595 Год назад

    OK I thought it was only me, but I'm so glad it's a fairly universal feeling to feel sad and nostalgic from this track...always makes me miss my childhood when I first played Sonic 3.

  • @ikagura
    @ikagura 4 года назад +3

    This is probably my favorite pattern in the entire franchise

  • @Littlediesel006
    @Littlediesel006 2 года назад

    At 4:50, that descent is also prominently used used all throughout the sonic 2 final boss theme on the death egg

  • @LamaPoop
    @LamaPoop 4 года назад +7

    Wait, I subbed to a music theory channel? Why?
    Oh, that's is why!
    Great musical insights, keep them comming!

  • @rosecullen4429
    @rosecullen4429 3 года назад +23

    This is genuinely one of the best youtube videos ive seen in 13 years of youtube. Incredible work.

  • @AntmanFelix
    @AntmanFelix 6 месяцев назад

    This song didnt necessary make me sad when i was a kid but it did hit differently. Almost like a celebration or reflection like the year book analogy. Definitely felt like it was a change in passage if you will. These songs that i knew and loved have so much meaning to them, im appreciating them in a new way. Thank you for your commentary

  • @Game_Hero
    @Game_Hero 3 года назад +3

    That Billie Jean joke was hilarious! Could we get an episode about the music of a PS2 platformer, like the Ratchet, Jak or Sly Cooper Series? Also the part with the pop songs is always hilarious and educative at the same time.

  • @ZX_STH
    @ZX_STH 3 года назад +2

    People getting sad from this song caught me off guard. I always felt this song was a whimsical adventure piece that, for me at least, instills a weird type of joy akin to nostalgia. But not quite there.

  • @a_creatorsstuff17
    @a_creatorsstuff17 3 года назад +1

    As soon as i saw Kojima at 8:00, i said the line out loud, perfect

  • @WYIT0
    @WYIT0 3 года назад

    Found your channel on my recommended page today and just binged through them all. I had never heard all these 2 Player Sonic 3 tracks before as I never had Sonic 3 as a kid on the Megadrive, just 1, 2 & Sonic & Knuckles.
    Amazing to know about this Endless Mine motif!
    Fantastic video! Would love to hear Sandopolis music breakdown next. Why most never liked the level, I always thought it was one of the most immersive stages.

  • @x-mighty7602
    @x-mighty7602 3 года назад +3

    7:56 This made me Subscribe. It's genius.

  • @Madbox10
    @Madbox10 3 года назад +1

    2:45 im glad i wasn't the only one who saw the boss stage like that.
    👍

  • @syndere6755
    @syndere6755 2 года назад

    I have real nostalgia for this song, since I played a bunch of multiplayer, and I loved playing this level.

  • @lilithpyrope476
    @lilithpyrope476 3 года назад

    Oh my god I have never felt my younger self be validated as much as you acknowledging that Endless Mine riff in City Escape, holy shit yes

  • @OYJluv
    @OYJluv 2 года назад

    Your singing is top notch! Lol
    I loved this video

  • @OhadLutzky
    @OhadLutzky 3 года назад

    Mind is various kinds of blown. Thank you for solving this back-of-the-mind mystery.

  • @topazlynx2228
    @topazlynx2228 Год назад

    I think that the purpose that Endless Mine was made like this was for the purpose of reminding you that this is the last stage of Multiplayer, and that it sadly is where it all ends.

  • @Sanjixoxo
    @Sanjixoxo 3 года назад +1

    Love this song so much.

  • @RobertTheFoxxo
    @RobertTheFoxxo 3 года назад

    There's pretty much 3 melodies/rhythms that signify return to the classic era in Mania.
    Teaser Trailer: Uses the beginning of the Sonic 3D Blast Ending, which basically was the end end of Classic Sonic, and said teaser said that they were going back
    Beginning Beginning of Mania's Title: Uses the rising notes found in Sonic 1, one significant part of "returning to Classic Sonic"
    As you said after that part: Endless Mine's rhythm means we've picked back up on the good ol' 2D spritemation days

  • @dyll_pyckle
    @dyll_pyckle 2 года назад

    This video was awesome!!! Never heard of you before someone left a comment on a different Sonic music vid and I wanted to check it out. So so good!!!

  • @Autotrope
    @Autotrope Год назад +1

    Holy crap. I gotta favourite this video so I can watch it every day from now on

  • @asdfghjjfdfvcddcbhxg6550
    @asdfghjjfdfvcddcbhxg6550 3 года назад +2

    This was my jam.

  • @SparkyMK3
    @SparkyMK3 2 года назад

    6:08 Come to think, isn't the same music theory discussed from here on--a major key song used in a melancholy way--used in a similar way in "Just Around The Riverbend" from Pocahontas? That song is in C Major, and while it's not necessarily a sad song, it still has an air of wistfulness and melancholy combined with a sense of ambition and triumph to it to represent Pocahontas being a risktaker and feeling strong in her convictions while simultaneously feeling conflicted about her dreams--torn between yearning for a life of adventure outside of the comfort of her village or settling down with Kocoum and accepting the path chosen for her. I could be wrong but I think the song emphases the 7th a lot as well.

  • @TheZaaz
    @TheZaaz 3 года назад

    This song also reeks of "If I Never Knew You" from Pocohontas. My sister used to watch it all the time, so me playing Endless Mine about 5 minutes after the movie really stuck those 2 songs together for me. Greta video.

  • @zephyrion
    @zephyrion 3 года назад

    You are breaking my brain with these. I love it.

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    @advertise3606YT 3 года назад

    Ubergrau's Endless Mine Reprise once caught me off guard, it sounded so good.
    It gave me such nostalgic chills.