Sonic 3's Mushroom Hill: Music Theory

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  • Опубликовано: 6 янв 2025

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  • @DeltaSpaceDweeb
    @DeltaSpaceDweeb 3 года назад +522

    You could even say that the military feel of Act 2 sets us up for the next level, the most military Zone in the game, Flying Battery!

    • @KaiserMattTygore927
      @KaiserMattTygore927 2 года назад +12

      The Snares are probably why Flying Battery is my favorite theme in Sonic 3 & Knuckles

    • @alchemistofsteel8099
      @alchemistofsteel8099 2 года назад +27

      Laughs in playing the stages in the beta order

    • @shlokwaghela9560
      @shlokwaghela9560 2 года назад +3

      @@alchemistofsteel8099 Ahh sheeeeet, you just destroyed him

    • @jaywarudo
      @jaywarudo 2 года назад +4

      @@alchemistofsteel8099 laughs at proto launch base

    • @harrybest2041
      @harrybest2041 2 года назад +5

      Flying Battery Zone was supposed to take place after Carnival Night Zone.

  • @Cybershell13
    @Cybershell13 3 года назад +495

    2:16 whoooa I never noticed that! Another banger vid.

    • @KageNage
      @KageNage 3 года назад +32

      Sonic 3 Bonus Video Bonus Video?

    • @kray2373
      @kray2373 3 года назад +10

      Sonic 3 Bonus Video Bonus Video Bonus Video?

    • @KageNage
      @KageNage 3 года назад

      @@kray2373 nah das too many

    • @someobscuremusicchannel
      @someobscuremusicchannel 3 года назад +4

      its got that same swing rhythm to it

    • @GodittoC
      @GodittoC 3 года назад +1

      69 likes, likes, make a wish!

  • @EasyCartoonDrawingTutorials
    @EasyCartoonDrawingTutorials 3 года назад +188

    I never noticed the drum beat in Mushroom Hill being so similar to the Knuckles theme. What a nice touch.

    • @robbiewalker2831
      @robbiewalker2831 2 года назад +9

      So really, Mushroom Valley, Knuckles’ drum solo and the Act 1 Boss theme were all connected to Knuckles.

    • @josephfox7068
      @josephfox7068 Год назад

      I never noticed that until I listened to the cover done by super soul brothers

    • @MadameSomnambule
      @MadameSomnambule Год назад

      I never noticed that either! That's kinda genius! Now that I think of it, I can kinda hear a variant of that beat in Knuckle's other theme in Sonic & Knuckles played at a higher tempo (not counting the beta theme. on a side note, I'm not as big of a fan of Knuckles' beta theme compared to the two official ones he got)

    • @Antluvstrains
      @Antluvstrains Месяц назад

      It’s why I love Act 1 so much. The Knuckles beat really aids the swing to the melody.

  • @squiddog8933
    @squiddog8933 3 года назад +224

    This is like 8-Bit Music Theory but a lot more easy to understand and still just as interesting

    • @jackfalcon5125
      @jackfalcon5125 3 года назад +11

      Yeah both channels are amazing

    • @KBMaximus
      @KBMaximus 3 года назад +3

      Never heard of it. I'll head over once im done here.

    • @LuanMazi
      @LuanMazi 3 года назад +38

      I can see that, 8-Bit goes a lot more in-depth into the juicy nerdy music theory aspects, while Alex mostly outlines things he finds interesting about the arrangements, and where they might be connected to other songs, rather than stuff like in-depth Harmonic Analysis like 8-Bit sometimes does. Both channels are Goated and serve their purpose really well.

  • @Emezie
    @Emezie 2 года назад +62

    These are so well made!
    This is like candy for a Sonic fan, music fan, and Sonic music fan!

  • @jjb2058
    @jjb2058 3 года назад +155

    This series explains exactly why I really enjoy this games soundtrack, every song fits its zone perfectly while also all being great songs in their own right

  • @VideoGameAnimationStudy
    @VideoGameAnimationStudy 3 года назад +373

    Man your videos always make me smile, you explain them so well, and it's always slightly mind blowing!
    Also, not if they're custom or not, but your subtitles are very neat!

  • @ohiorushbaby
    @ohiorushbaby 3 года назад +143

    It's absolutely incredible how much depth is in Sonic's music. I can't get over how much they use music to mirror or strengthen the narrative storyline in the game.

    • @IronicSonic83
      @IronicSonic83 2 года назад +1

      As someone just find this series, I'm in awe with all this insight. Amazing content

    • @SuzukiCabs
      @SuzukiCabs 2 года назад

      @@IronicSonic83 you played sonic forces first?

    • @IronicSonic83
      @IronicSonic83 2 года назад +1

      @@SuzukiCabs I mean the Sonic Music Theory. I play Sonic since 1992

  • @gigithehedgehog8469
    @gigithehedgehog8469 3 года назад +33

    7:00 Such frequent reoccurrence of these Mario chords reminds us that Sonic is a revision of Nintedo’s formula.
    7:07 And the thing about revisions….they tend to improve upon the first draft.
    🔥 OH SNAP!!! 🔥

  • @IkesDaddelbox
    @IkesDaddelbox 3 года назад +63

    Act 2 was actually the first beat I used to practise more complex drum patterns on my cajon. It's so much fun once you get the hang of the pattern.

  • @RedReagle
    @RedReagle 3 года назад +73

    Oh my god the revelation at 4:57 is absolutely genius, it really does give such a feeling of "Welp, here we go again". This shit blows my mind! I never understood the depth of genius of this soundtrack, but I'm now realizing that's why it was just so notable and always on everybody's tongue: because it was a mastercraft in musical storytelling.

  • @Jargonfox
    @Jargonfox 3 года назад +75

    The way you break down the songs is amazing. I'm too dumb to understand music theory and scales etc (or uh, just not that interested in it) but yeah these are a perfect mix of theory and examples. Whenever you compare the melodies or rhythms or whatever else to other songs it just makes me smile

  • @ChromaNyan
    @ChromaNyan 3 года назад +38

    i'd imagine the reason knuckles' theme is present in mushroom hill is also partly because when you play as knuckles in s&k alone the level serves as more of a tutorial for how to control him

  • @SatoshiMatrix1
    @SatoshiMatrix1 3 года назад +9

    This really makes me appreciate why I loved Sonic 3 and Knuckles so so much when I was a kid. There's a huge amount of depth in this music.

  • @retro3188
    @retro3188 3 года назад +33

    I love the “Mario Cadence”-it just feels so satisfying. And I love your analogies! (I don’t know why, but I’d like to hear some analysis on jingles.)

  • @thebwoods15
    @thebwoods15 2 года назад +3

    4:50 - Proof that Eggman is the evil Sonic Universe variant of Mario.

  • @peachtoast2293
    @peachtoast2293 3 года назад +37

    I think my favorite part of these videos is the great attention to detail in the editing. All the little sonic animations and clips to better explain the music theory are amazing.

  • @sonicslayton
    @sonicslayton 3 года назад +15

    The ending with the live demonstration of the percussion that was is so influential in the track not only helped drive home your point but..was just very cool~

  • @Rushiryu
    @Rushiryu 3 года назад +19

    1:50 "It's a fun invitation to the Sonic & Knuckles experience that spotlights the series' awesome new character."
    *Knuckles immediately bugs his wall animation*
    What an awesome video. I don't know anything about music theory but the way it's delivered and explained with the graphics makes it understandable for even a music illiterate like me.
    So interesting to watch! You make the subject so captivating.
    This is the first time I subscribe to a channel upon watching my first video of them. Good content, man.

  • @darylcastillo1439
    @darylcastillo1439 4 месяца назад +1

    A work of genius is usually something that takes several watches or listens to fully understand and appreciate it for what it is. I did not get Mushroom Hill's theme at the beginning, but then I understood how it enhanced the fat, round, bounciness of the level with its arrangement. This video makes me appreciate it even more.

  • @WeeklyTubeShow2
    @WeeklyTubeShow2 3 года назад +84

    Great series. Also, please let these people know that Masato Nakamura still goes in.

  • @courseprism1017
    @courseprism1017 3 года назад +2

    1:50
    I really like Knuckles, and this made my day.
    Wonderful video as well.

  • @BladeShadowWing
    @BladeShadowWing 3 года назад +19

    I love how you went into detail with the drum parts. I never really noticed the toms, since they're a bit hard to hear, but it really compliments act 1 nicely.

    • @RedReagle
      @RedReagle 3 года назад +3

      Yeah I almost didn't even consider them, but in a lot of ways, they're like the main character of the songs, really driving it along with a snap

  • @atigerclaw
    @atigerclaw 2 года назад +4

    I'll say this as a player who grew up on this game: The chromatic tumble never once made me think of Death Egg. To me, it was falling leaves.

  • @vaporwaveskeleton9224
    @vaporwaveskeleton9224 3 года назад +2

    Your use of metaphor and visuals alike to explain abstract music concepts in a fun way is both second to none and genius, Love this series.

  • @Xtremiityy
    @Xtremiityy 3 года назад +2

    4:33 In the Background, When Tails hits Eggman, the Eggman we see has the "Damage taken" animation.

  • @EggOnBeansOnToast
    @EggOnBeansOnToast 3 года назад +2

    You blew me away with 2:10 I've been playing these OG games since they released, and I never could put my finger on the familiarity of the Mushroom Hill track. Amazing. Liked and subbed.

  • @jonathansmall4969
    @jonathansmall4969 2 года назад +1

    I always loved the music from the original Sonic games. But hearing your breakdown of all of these really gives me a new appreciation. Thanks for sharing!

  • @SparkyMK3
    @SparkyMK3 2 года назад +1

    I didn't even catch that callback to Emerald Hill in this music until you pointed it out! That is such an awesome touch! Great analysis vid!

  • @RClayFM
    @RClayFM 3 года назад +37

    I never realised that a remix of Knuckles' theme was the drums for act 1

    • @krimzonnebula9341
      @krimzonnebula9341 3 года назад +4

      Knuckles drums are also used in the sonic 3 miniboss

    • @chilliorganism
      @chilliorganism 3 года назад +4

      @@krimzonnebula9341 except there, it’s much more noticeable, as it’s more directly sampled.

    • @stephthestar90
      @stephthestar90 3 года назад +1

      I didn't ether until now

  • @zayman40
    @zayman40 3 года назад +1

    I never really got what made sonic music, or music in general, sound so good! This video is awesome please make more

  • @ChaddyFantome
    @ChaddyFantome 3 года назад +1

    9:49 I always here a sort of evolved version of the Sonic 2 title tune here, like the level is calling back to new beginnings but in a new context since it isn't rally a new beginning but a continuation.

  • @transitcity
    @transitcity 3 года назад +1

    It’s so amazing how you did deep research into the sonic songs down to beats to instruments to samples to melody. I would have never even thought or even deep research this type of stuff. It’s really amazing.

    • @transitcity
      @transitcity 3 года назад

      There is so much more to be said but this is incredible, I’m definitely subscribing!

  • @azuresonic69
    @azuresonic69 2 года назад +5

    You have quite the talent, interpreting all these fantastic soundtracks as the stories they were intended for. I appreciate your skills in the realm of music theory, composition, and phrasing. Kudos!

  • @Jurtaani
    @Jurtaani 3 года назад +2

    The fact that you got the exact same impression from the song and how it tells you how death egg came stumping down from the sky and whatnot.
    It just shows how brilliantly they managed to make those songs not only great sounding on their own, but that they fit into their levels perfectly.

  • @MakriaMicronation
    @MakriaMicronation 3 месяца назад +1

    This is like an annotated version of my fav songs lol, great background noise

  • @Pyromancers
    @Pyromancers Год назад +1

    All the detail work in these vids like little graphics and sound effects to make points clear really add to the production value.

  • @SuperCosmicMutantSquid
    @SuperCosmicMutantSquid 3 года назад +1

    The intro of Mushroom Hill is amazing with the kick drum. That's what makes it stand out on terms of the typical idea of a Sonic first level which is usually always 'tropical green beach place'.
    This is mellow, autumn and bouncy.

  • @AstroTom
    @AstroTom 3 года назад +1

    Random person: This guy overthinks music!
    Intellectuals: Oh my goodness, it's all coming together!
    Great video. I was introduced to the franchise by Mega Collection Plus as a kid so these music theories hit right home.

  • @Part_Time_Fox
    @Part_Time_Fox 3 года назад +5

    Its pretty insane how much you could get out of the music, it's really given me a new appreciation for one of my favorite games of all time.

  • @Elec.Balloon
    @Elec.Balloon 3 года назад +1

    Found it hard to believe Mushroom Hill had any swing in it, until you explained it. Makes a lot more sense to think of it as three segments.
    Also, pretty sure Deltarune's "A CYBER'S WORLD?"/"Welcome to the City" uses the Mario Cadence, so it's nice to learn that a ton of other songs use it as well.
    Nice work on these videos! :D
    Edit: forgot a word

  • @BackPalSA
    @BackPalSA 3 года назад +1

    You know what? I've never seen this before, but a cybershell comment, a video that genuinely kept me interested in the music and didn't overwhelm me with terms I don't understand, while explaining in layman's terms things that might be too complex otherwise. This is incredible, and you've gained not only a sub, but I'm going to be sharing your channel with EVERYONE I know. I'm gonna brag about how I subbed when you only had 12k. Keep it up, and please knock it out of the park again like this, I love it!

  • @shadow479
    @shadow479 3 года назад +5

    this level and music in underrated. I always loved these.
    Amazing drum performance, I nevrr thought I'd see someone playing that.

  • @joshuasanderson7359
    @joshuasanderson7359 3 года назад +1

    This deserves more views.

  • @pAirA_
    @pAirA_ 3 года назад +1

    I love all the easter eggs you've put in. The fact that the drummer's background changes to autumn like the level, you putting Mario in the section referring to the Mario cadence in 8:51 (which I'm totally calling it from now on btw) and Sonic opening the capsule and landing in sync with the beat in 8:53. I bet there are many more I've missed as well 😂
    Amazing video man, learnt a lot from this one. Mushroom Hill was always the one that intrigued me the most in the Sonic 3 soundtrack

  • @matthewfunk6435
    @matthewfunk6435 3 года назад +7

    These videos are so detailed and amazing. I’ve been applying the use of swapping maj and minor 7ths in my compositions like an earlier video explained and it’s really been an inspiration. Keep making more! I want to learn more

  • @ahd4415
    @ahd4415 3 года назад +11

    LET'S GOO NOTIF SQUAD

  • @beyondfragoh
    @beyondfragoh Год назад +1

    I love you SO MUCH! Your content is brilliant! Thank you for taking the time and effort to do these videos.

  • @s-idney
    @s-idney 2 года назад +1

    I don't know what he's talking about but it makes me feel smart listening.

  • @geminimaxxim
    @geminimaxxim 3 года назад +3

    This very quickly became one of my favourite educational series on the Sonic franchise. It's so charming and interesting! And can't wait so see where it branches out after S3K is covered

  • @althejazzman
    @althejazzman 2 года назад +1

    Your use of sprites and sound effects from the game in your animations is so incredible. Not wasted at all.

  • @dgamer5075
    @dgamer5075 3 года назад +1

    The subtle dashes of Minor 3rds in the melody with the swing rhythm gives me major "Blues" not "minor" vibes - the context definitely separates the feel from sheer darkness.

  • @cubedtothex
    @cubedtothex 3 года назад +1

    This is honestly your best theory video yet! You are always able to bring new lights and findings to compositions I’ve had on repeat for decades! The drum example at the end is the chef’s kiss here and I hope you continue to include that moving forward.

    • @edmn
      @edmn 2 года назад

      It even changed seasons as it progressed to act 2. Brilliant!

  • @nossir
    @nossir 3 года назад +1

    Your videos are a always a joy to watch

  • @TwisterTH
    @TwisterTH 3 года назад

    Dude, I just checked the series today and gotta say, that you did an outstanding job! I know nothing about music theory, but listening you explaining though information and visuals like this, truly feels like edutainment. In other words - I absolutely love it. (:

  • @JamesR624
    @JamesR624 3 года назад +24

    Wow, I already figured Mushroom Hill in name, asthetics, and tone kinda felt like SEGA was just going "Eh, do what Nintendo's doin'", but even the music. Heck, out of all the types of Mushrooms in the zone, they stick with the spotted kind VERY similar to what you'd find all over the Mushroom Kingdom in Super Mushrooms and 1-ups.

    • @tenzaemtade6146
      @tenzaemtade6146 2 года назад

      The mushroom hill music has nothing to do with Mario

  • @LeoSuperChamp
    @LeoSuperChamp 3 года назад +6

    Mushroom Hill, Bloody hell! Should’ve known it!

  • @OrganicGreens
    @OrganicGreens Год назад

    The sheer number of parallels in this one track is really impressive. Glad I found your channel.

  • @PacoTheeTacoo
    @PacoTheeTacoo 3 года назад

    I’ve never studied music a day in my life but your videos are absolutely fascinating. I love learning what makes some of my favorite games so good

  • @elcuervodhaedo
    @elcuervodhaedo 3 года назад +3

    Excellent video as always. Incredible the number of Sonic songs where you found that harmonic progression haha ​​and very intentional rhythm analysis, it makes you really want to play the drums.

  • @matthewmaxi
    @matthewmaxi 3 года назад

    these videos combine two of my favorite things, music & video games. DOPE CONTENT!!!

  • @johndeer4936
    @johndeer4936 3 года назад +1

    so many references to the other songs!! i love how you not only get to go back and relive those memories when watching these videos, you also learn a lot!! such a great series!!!

  • @seronymus
    @seronymus 3 года назад +2

    What a professional analysis. This series is like pure candy, I love it. Please don't stop, it's a huge inspiration to me too! I love how you break down the whole melody revealing the sonic genius.

  • @J_Ciner
    @J_Ciner 3 года назад +1

    There's a lot of really great music theory channels out there, but I love how you present it in a very approachable way that relates to the lore and stories of the games, it makes me appreciate the songs and games a lot more

  • @Selxis
    @Selxis 3 года назад

    This video was very well put together. You highlighted many elements I hadn't noticed. Especially interesting how many times the Mario cadence is used! I subscribed.

  • @LynnXternal
    @LynnXternal 3 года назад +1

    The quality of your videos keeps improving every time you upload, and I'm living for it

  • @ep5659
    @ep5659 Год назад

    Just want to say you earned my sub within the first 40 seconds of this video. I don't know where this has been all my life, but I know I'm gonna binge watch the heck out of it, now.

  • @getBlackbird
    @getBlackbird 3 года назад

    I found your channel last night and am honestly blown away by how thoroughly you’ve deconstructed the soundtracks of some of my favorite videogames.
    As someone who is just starting down the road to learning music theory, these videos have been really eye-opening and inspiring.

  • @live_monkey2485
    @live_monkey2485 2 года назад

    Thank you for these theory videos. Some of the best video game music I've heard is from these original sonic games, and your videos are not only very well made, but they are also very educational.

  • @lyxpup
    @lyxpup 3 года назад +1

    Gotta say, this video flowed very neatly. Loved the drum insights!

  • @lopinjop
    @lopinjop 3 года назад

    Incredible breakdown of what's going on in these tracks. Your detailed explanations and perfect visuals are extremely captivating.

  • @nthgth
    @nthgth Год назад

    This is eye-opening. Thank you so much. I have a music theory background and love video game music (especially Genesis Sonic) and this is so much more than I would've thought of in a thousand years.

  • @jno7
    @jno7 3 года назад +1

    And another fantastic Video!
    Your Videos always save my day hahaha

  • @rightwing707
    @rightwing707 3 года назад +1

    This just popped up in my recommended tab and I have to say it made for a great listen. Think I just found a whole new series to burn through in my spare time.

  • @PanPakapon
    @PanPakapon 3 года назад +2

    Ooooo I’ve been waiting for this one. After composition class, this is going to be a treat!

  • @williamwade2674
    @williamwade2674 3 месяца назад

    bro you are blowing my mind with this stuff. I have never heard music been described so accurately to how it actually feels to listen to it.

  • @lovestarlightgiver2402
    @lovestarlightgiver2402 3 года назад +27

    The Mario references are interesting, and a part of the music for Hydrocity Act 2 sounds similar to the song that plays when Mario gets a star.

    • @RedReagle
      @RedReagle 3 года назад +10

      Dude yeah, the realization that it felt like a true direct descendant and revision of mario was really fascinating.

  • @jakecreighton9039
    @jakecreighton9039 3 года назад +8

    Always an immediate like for this channel’s videos. Can we get him going viral please people? Like is cybershell the sonic lore master and 8 bit music sharing him and stuff? I need this man to blow up so he can quit his job and make these videos weekly.

  • @DonoDeluxe
    @DonoDeluxe 3 года назад

    Another banger vid Alex! I always look forward to these every month!

  • @arthurvenger
    @arthurvenger 3 года назад +1

    your sonic music theory videos are amazing! really looking forward for the next one! keep it up man!!!

  • @budgoodrich6000
    @budgoodrich6000 3 года назад

    Every video is more brilliantly done than the last. I love your work!

  • @faaeen
    @faaeen 3 года назад

    Few youtube channels gets me as excited for new videos as this one. Thanks for the amazing content.

  • @SeveredLegs
    @SeveredLegs 2 года назад

    The animations on your videos make this so great. Such amazing work.

  • @IronicSonic83
    @IronicSonic83 2 года назад

    I just love this series. Want to learn music since I saw this videos. Also your editing is just top notch. Congrats!

  • @nictouris6054
    @nictouris6054 3 года назад

    Wow the editing is so good too! These videos are absolute perfection

  • @spazzwazzle
    @spazzwazzle 3 года назад

    Man, your videos always leave me speechless. I'm tearing up at the genius of this soundtrack; you're putting into words what my ears found so intriguing

  • @viridian7054
    @viridian7054 2 года назад

    I love how when the drummer changes from Mushroom Hill act 1 - 2 the bushes in the background change from green to orange. What a nice little nod!✨️

  • @benmontey3438
    @benmontey3438 3 года назад

    Ahhhhh yes, the greatest time of the month, seeing your videos come out. It was already great, and it's just getting greater. Keep up the work man!

  • @pirajacinto4
    @pirajacinto4 3 года назад +3

    That ending was so freakin cool. So chill and relaxing!

  • @Ruruchan
    @Ruruchan 3 года назад

    ok so, I found your videos and I already saw them all, I gave them a like !! seriously thank you very much for your work, sonic 3 was my first video game, I just love it, it's music is like a hymn to joy, learning so much about it has fascinated me. thanks again !! I can't wait to see the hydrocity and carnival night review!!

  • @randomguyontheinternet7940
    @randomguyontheinternet7940 3 года назад

    Great video, really interesting.
    At 11:56 I this snare sequence is also used in the Sonic 1 ending theme.
    Also I love the autumn skin you made for the thumbnail, looks great.

  • @lineialquantum
    @lineialquantum 3 года назад +2

    10:39 DKC music theory video coming soon? 🤔

  • @sasdagreat8052
    @sasdagreat8052 3 года назад

    Great to see you've been getting the recognition you deserve!

  • @KageNage
    @KageNage 3 года назад

    This was the track analysis I was waiting on. Thanks

  • @zebimicion9739
    @zebimicion9739 3 года назад +2

    I'm loving this channel.

  • @SaviorLight
    @SaviorLight 3 года назад

    I'm glad RUclips recommended me your content. I got hooked and this video was the cause.

  • @jerdure
    @jerdure 3 месяца назад

    I am just discovering your work right now, the analysis and knowledge are incredible ! I thought I knew these songs like the back of my hand, I was wrong !

  • @CaioMav
    @CaioMav 3 года назад +1

    Dude, these videos are amazing.

  • @Crash-lm4zb
    @Crash-lm4zb 3 года назад

    This is one of my favorite songs of all time. Thanks for the video!

  • @slkdfjklasasdfasdf
    @slkdfjklasasdfasdf 3 года назад

    This series is amazing! I can't wait to hear your analysis of Chrome Gadget if/when you get to it.