Hess was NOT "Slow Witted"... He spoke German, English, French, AND Arabic... He was also an Incredible Pilot. His flying feat to Scotland was almost unbelievable that he was so close on course.
@@lawsharland7278 yes... Naive, extremely ego centric. He was a cruel, brutal soul, who loved animals and toy trains, sometimes bestowed kindness on anyone... Brilliant but brutal....
My Grandfather was in Berlin after the war, and he said we just bulldozed new streets through the rubble of the city. Pretty easy to imagine that a lot got buried, if not destroyed.
What you say may be true, but you do not answer some of the controversy. When Bormann's remains were discovered, they were discovered where they has searched many years earlier and had found nothing. They say that the remains of Bormann had post 1950 dental work, in other words some of the work these remains had dental work that was not developed until after 1950. Also apparently the remains of Bormann had a red clay with iron mannerization and there is apparently none of this clay any where near where these remains were found. But this clay is very common near areas that have iron in South America. You also have to consider the filmed interview of Jorge Silvio Colotto, Chief of Federal Police (Military) ADC to 8 Argentine Presidents including Juan Peron. Who in a filmed interview stated that Peron was in a meeting with a German person and Jorge was waiting outside. When the meeting was finished, Peron and this German person came out of the office and the person left. Jorge then said that Peron asked him if he new who that person was, he responded that he did not know. He then said Peron said it was Martin Bormann and he then said Peron put his finger and thumb to his lips and moving then as he was moving a zipper, he then said Peron said silencio. Now I would think that Jorge would have check out this to be positive of this and if he didn't how in gods name did he serve as Chief of the federal Police (Military). He also had an agreement that the film would not be released until after his death. He also stated that anyone displaying disloyalty deserves a bullet in the back. This may have something to do with why he wanted it to only be released after his death, or maybe he was protecting himself from someone else. Well Jorge died and it was released in 2008. The person who filmed and released it has claimed that he has received threatening phone calls advising him to keep his mouth shut. Also there is a woman born in Chile and would be about 66 to 70 years old today. He and her ex husbands family are 100% sure that her adoptive father was Martin Bormann, having and using another name. She thinks the reason that he adopted her, was to protect him from being extradition. In South American countries, they protect parents of children from their country from being extradition. So as I said, you may be correct, but to convince me, you will need to address these issues. You can also watch the interview with Jorge Silvio Colotto on RUclips, though it is in Spanish, I can understand the language to understand what he is saying. I am not trying to fuel a speculation, but you do not deal with these or any other issues. Not only do you need to express your facts, you have to explain all the others that dispute your findings. Then and only then can you truly convince people to believe what you say.
I was looking for this comment. I was surprised that these possibilities were not addressed in this presentation. I remain unconvinced of Axman's explanation. He claims he was with Bormann & Stumpfegger, yet he wakes up to find them dead & then he manages to escape? Sounds suspiciously like a cover up. That, plus the other points you mention cast doubt that Bormann died in the manner claimed.
@@samualcrocket1405 I will listen to anyone's theory if they can back it up with evidence. They also have to disprove all or as much evidence that contradicts the counter theories. I fully agree that the proof is in the DNA, I question on how the DNA got to the point of discovery. Now I have supplied the information on the video of Jorge Silvio Colotto and his interview, and I do not for one second think he was an idiot and did not know what he was doing, as if he was I am very sure he would not have been Chief of Military Police under 7 different Argentina Presidents including Juan Peron. Making the statement the proof is in the DNA does not clarify your opinion on the subject, but I am willing to listen to your opinion and any evidence you have to back it up.
@@d.thomkins2135 There are other videos on Bormann. Not only DNA proof but also dental records, a fractured collar bone from an earlier time, and he was found in the same place by construction workers where an eyewitness said he died. That is enough proof for most people. You can create a conspiracy around it but there is not any evidence that he escaped anywhere, only unsubstantiated rumors. Bormann waited around too long to leave. Some of the others that made it to South America left earlier.
When the found the bones you mentioned it is my understanding the bounds had a red soil on them only found in South America. There was a grave pointed out to some researchers in South America that was said to be of Bormann. No bones were found there, but, the red soil matched that found on the bones in Germany.
Why would someone move his bones? Nobody ever would’ve found them. You cant just take remains into a country without paperwork. You’re saying someone risked smuggling a body? Why would they take this risk?
He died in Berlin 1945 early May after he tried to flee from the Fuhrer Bunker and to avoid Soviet captivity he committed suicide. His body was found 1973 and was confirmed 1998 with a DNA Test that it was his body. He didn't survived the War and definitely not died in South Africa, this is fact, any other stories about him after the war is false. Period.
@@scoldingwhisper it's not like the Nazis were fanatical or anything... Or pissing money from stolen gold. People could be motivated by either ideology, money, or both. Hell, you can pay people enough to murder someone. Why not move bones? And by 1972, there would have been plenty of former Nazis in high ranking positions all over public jobs in Berlin. Why would they do it? To cover up the lie and cast suspicion away from other colleagues who might still be in South America. That's why.
By the way. the Paraguayan Police have released a report that they have an official document which states that Martin Bormann died in Asuncion, Paraguay in 1959. The papers revealed that he was known to live between Paraguay and Chile and that he died of stomach cancer. That is what his adopted daughter thought had happened to him, she still lives in Chile. He was initially looked at by a Paraguayan doctor and he told him that it was far too serious for any cure. It was only some time later that the doctor saw his picture as a wanted man, that he knew he was Martine Bormann. The papers also state that Josef Mengele travelled to Asuncion, Paraguay to treat Martine Bormann from 1958 to his death in 1959 and that is about when Josef Mengele applied for Paraguayan citizenship. It was also in 1956 when Marin Bormann arrived in Asuncion and lived south of the town with a man that Matin Bormann knew, I do have a copy and the link to this information and will post it if requested or you can search for the paper the way I did.
When I was a child in the 60s I regularly saw magazine covers that promoted articles about the hunt for Bormann, one that I recall concerned a skull discovered in a Berlin subway tunnel.
Regarding the breakout, there were not "several tanks." The first breakout attempt over the Weidendammer Bridge at midnight had just two AFV's; a Tiger II, which led at the front, and a self-propelled gun. The Tiger led the procession of hundreds of soldiers, support staff and civilians over the bridge in the dark under heavy fire; it actually made it across but got stuck, ironically, when it pulled up to a tank trap made by Germans in the run up to the battle for Berlin. The tank managed to smash its way through but then got hit by an anti-tank round. Many walking behind it were killed, but despite being knocked over by the blast, Bormann and others survived. At that point, For those who made it across the bridge it was a case of 'every man for himself.' Bormann, Axmann, Schwaegermann and Stumpfegger went off together towards the railway yard, where they split up. Obviously your story picks it up from there. Their bodies were not buried by a random group of Soviet soldiers, as you say. The man who says he buried the bodies was a retired postal worker (Albert Krumnow) who said he and a colleague were ordered to do it by the Soviets. It was he who in 1965, took authorities to the spot where he said he'd buried them and nothing was found. When the bodies were discovered in 1972, they were only about 35 feet from the spot - the worker had just got his bearings slightly wrong.
If you have watched Hunting Hitler they Proved that the soil found on Borman's remain's did not match the soil where they were found him, but they matched the soil of his suppose grave that was in South America.
He died in Berlin 1945 early May after he tried to flee from the Fuhrer Bunker and to avoid Soviet captivity he committed suicide. His body was found 1973 and was confirmed 1998 with a DNA Test that it was his body. He didn't survived the War and definitely not died in South Africa, this is fact, any other stories about him after the war is false. Period.
@@Xorthane because first of all he was Hitler's deputy\personal secretary, he was always with him, if he would have fled when Hitler was still alive, he would have been killed for treason. Second of all, he was too popular and one the most high ranking Nazi figures, the allies especially the Soviets wanted to have him and he knew he would die if they would find him. Third, he was a Nazi to the core, he was loyal to Hitler and to the Nazi Ideology till the end. Fourthly, because of his popularity, do you think he can just disappeare like that? And live a common life without disturbance? Every common German soldier knew his face, his voice and who he was, every Allied officer and above had Photos and descriptions about high ranking Nazis who should be important to catch. Bounties were on their heads as well, somebody would have recognized him sooner or later anyway. Fifth, Berlin was completely surrounded by the Soviets, no way to escape. And how many high ranking Nazis successfuly escaped Berlin end of April 1945? Nobody, either they were killed, commited suicide, surrendered, was captured or were captured later on. So what you can do if you already know, you will die anyway, either by your hand, by the allies or by a Jewish tribunal. He tried it anyway to flee but eventually died trying 🤷
In 1971 I did a research paper on Martin Bormann. I had access to files that at the time we’re not in the public domain. My conclusion was he did escape Germany and by way of Italy, North African countries, and shipping contacts that remained loyal to the Reich ended up in a small town near the intersection of Brazil, Paraguay, and Argentina. My sources stated he remained alive in 1971 and was heavily guarded by ex-SS soldiers who had also escaped Germany at the close of the war. This video seems to explain what happened to him after 1971,
Public or private domain is irrelevant. The quality of any evidence was third hand, speculative and built on conjecture with the distinct possibility your conclusion was drawn by your needs for some magical revelation. Unfortunately the principles of Ockham’s razor held truth. The mundaneness of the reality of war. Bormann died in a ditch like so many other casualties of war in those last futile chaotic days of the war. No mystery. No conspiracy just subjective conclusive DNA analysis.
@@oktfg - The sources remain restricted the last time I checked. The files came from two governmental intel agencies. Two person to author sources died within ten years of my paper. They were involved in the search and capture of several Nazi war criminals. One of which was Eichman (sp). DNA analysis can be botched and/or altered for political or related interests.
@@Madmen604 His wife Gerda died of cancer in 1946. They had 10 children. Martin jr became a catholic monk and was subject to accusations of sexual abuse. Martin jr also provided blood for the DNA tests on his father’s remains. Irmgard, Rudolf, Heinrich, Eva, Gerda and Fred lived anonymously. They cooperated with writers and documentary makers. Eike and Volker died at a young age
@@Madmen604 - There was not very much in regards to his family. I did read he married. If memory serves there were a couple of references to his family. Some reported they died during the fall of Berlin, others said they were elsewhere and possibly survived, and one stated they ended up in South America several yeas after the war ended. It was not part of the research I followed so I really cannot say which ending is correct.
Bormann didn't make it out of Berlin.. His fate was tied to Hitler, as soon as he would have left Hitler's side, it would have been game over for Bormann. Bormann didn't have a way out, he was in Berlin too long, he waited too long and that is that.
For those that believe that Martin Bormann escaped Berlin in the dying days of the war, here are some FACTS to consider. Borman was married with 10 children, and by all accounts a loving family man, why would he not contact his family during the years after the war? Also, Hitler's secretary Traudl Junge stated in many accounts of how Bormann and Ludwig Stumpfegger were believed to had died during his escape attempt. Bormann had a brother who was fairly high ranking officer and fled to South America in 1945 and it is more likely that Bormann's brother used his brothers name to gain favour in South America. As to the red clay, it was believed that it was reminisce of red bricks in the rubble of the bombed out buildings that had leached into the ground over the years. If someone reburied Bormann in Berlin decades after the end of the war, how would they know exactly where to bury the body, because it was found beside Stumpfegger's remains? In the excavation report, it was noted that the ground was undisturbed since initial burial. Martin Bormann and Ludwig Stumpfegger died in Berlin.
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Former werhmacht and ss soldiers and officers are rather common through Argentina, Brazil and Paraguay, people here dont seem to care at all. Even in Bolivia years ago I met a senile german man who and married to a distant relative and claimed he fled Germany during the war because allegedly, he lived in a small village that oposed nazi rule but would rather not mention its name and was freak out when I mention that many journalist would enjoy interviewing him, saying that he had it all with germany and didnt wish to hear or talk about it again.
Dr. Joseph P Farell (Oxford) has written many books about this. There is no way Bormann died, he absolutely escaped and played a major role behind the scenes in the world for many years after the war.
He is well know for his conspiracy theories and making his 'evidence' fit his believes !. (Just because he went to Oxford dose not mean he is intelligent - just look at the British parliament !!!!).
When I was a boy, and I am 68 now, I heard about the British recruiting a former German soldier from WW1 to enter their secret service, and join the new German Army in the early 1920's. He ended up in the supply corps, and rose to high rank. It is said that he delayed the provision of long barreled guns for German tanks early in the war by a full year for instance. Have you heard of him, is he real, and how effective as an internal saboteur was he? Just wondering if you know if this is true or not, and if true, it might be a good story to tell.
I am 71, and I also heard a similar story in my youth. There is a movie from the late 1950's called "The Two-Headed Spy" starring Jack Hawkins. Both in the movie and in the story I heard, the spy was a British officer. He rose to the rank of Major-General in the German Heer, and was the highest placed Allied spy of WWII. However, to this day I do not know if the story is true. There is also a series of stories that concern Reinhard Gehlen, a German who was a master spy. I am not familiar with this man's history, so I will just mention his name to you.
Great work! Even though I've watched many many documentaries on him, only now did I get a conclusive answer to what happened to him.. thanks, stay safe!
Sadly this is the wrong answer. The dental records do not match Bormans skull which has dental work done after 1945. Plus things that his dentist did not do. Then the skull was encased in a soil not found in Germany but exactly the same as his reported burial site in south America. Then place where he was reportedly buried in 1945 by the postal workers is not the same place to where the body was found. So if he did die in 1945 then he was taken to south America for 14 years. had dental work done after he died. Then buried there for 20 year before being reburied in a different location back in Berlin. This is the latest and most upto date information. 5 short chapters that covers the known facts. ruclips.net/video/fUuAaVvigLw/видео.html
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I would like to add this bit of evidence to this mystery. The soils found in the two corpus’ after exhuming them in Germany. Matched none of the local soils but a rare soil chemistry only found in Argentina. In the area of the grave stones.
@Tony Elberg No offense taken, we are just exchanging difference of opinion based on research and fact sharing. Stalin was the first to disclose his frustration that arriving first at the Berlin bunker and recovering a questionable double of Hitler. Then recovering bone fragments from a skull 💀, believed to be Hitlers, only to have it turn out to be a female after DNA testing. FYI Elvis OD mate
I heard a slightly different story, that the remains of at least Bormann had an iron rich red clay. There was no such clay near where the remains were found, yet this clay is very common in South America. Also where they found the remains, is the same place where they had search years before for his remains. The remains of Bormann had post 1950 dental work that could not be explained. Also there was a filmed interview with Juan Peron's closest associate in Argentina, I believe his first name was Jodie or Jody, this was under agreement that it would not be published on air until after his death. He tells of a time when he was outside Peron's office and when the door opened a man with Peron came out to the area where Jodie was. The man left and Peron asked Jodie if he knew who that man was and Jodie replied that he did not. Peron stated to him that the person was Martin Bormann and raise his hand to his mouth and with the fore and thumb pinched together moved them across his lips and said "silencio". I am not sure if the spelling of his first name is correct or what his last name was, but he was not a man you would want to cross, but it is quite easy to find the film clip of this interview on UTube. Watch it and make your own conclusions. The person that made the interview with Jodie claimed that after the release he received a threatening telephone call.
I have not heard the interview but everything about the mud not matching German dirt and having dug there earlier (meaning they moved Bormans bones there after he dies in South America and were about to dig up the sight he was last seen in Germany)
@@michaelkaminski8339 I've heard the same thing. Berlin soil is very sandy. Roaming Soviet soldiers would not stop to bury anyone. But yes, it was his body "found in Berlin." Although Ladislas Farago's book is "discredited," I don't see the CIA doing the same legwork as the author. But who can say?
@@wot4922 Airmail? Moving a sack of bones is a lot easier than moving a "body." If the German government didn't participate directly in the plant, they were happy to write off the escape story despite forensic evidence. The location of the last sighting of Bormann was well known. Makes you wonder if they kept an eye on it and waited for it to be dug up, under construction, so as to put the bones there. Or maybe it was done on short notice, a crime of opportunity, and no one had time to think about the clay embedded with the skull.
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@@lestermount3287 Thank you. I was about to say so. So sad, his broken legged weather beaten, aurak assaulted body lying there on that treacherous pebble strewn slope............
@@flyingsteel Conspiracy theorists. Don't confuse them with facts. They'll only come up with another equally implausibly bizarre story, to wit: he was "dug up at a later date and placed back in the ground in Germany" Pfffffffffffft ?!? "Many verifiable facts......" as in all sort things that would need to be verified first that he did live in SA. AND WHICH HAVE NOT BEEN NOR ARE THEY "VERIFIABLE" 75 years later. It was theorized by conspiracy theorists and of course are incorrect.
@@clambroth1923 'Conpiracy theorist' is the slur people like you use when you have no genuine rebuttal or facts to the contrary! To be considered relevant, try harder next time and stop whining!!
@@richardsimons6978 "Slur" for good reason. People like you who ignore facts, scientific & forensic evidence and witness accounts in order to vomit out cockamamie rumors based wholly upon conjecture, 4th and 5th hand supposition are indeed conspiracy theorists. The story in question and that which I am specifically responding to is supported by: 1. first hand eyewitness accounts of those present at the suicide. 2. Scientific and forensic evidence including dental records, match to Bormann. That is conclusive evidence. Case closed. Enter the conspiracy theorists. Sorry to burst your fat balloon richard simmons. Now place your hands over your eyes and ears & scream nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah. Finds some facts dude.
@@richardsimons6978 What facts? Is there anyone that can provide any credible information about this so called clay found on the bodies other than "I heard"?
15:27 "Because the soldiers didn't know they were dealing with two of the most wanted N(az^is, they simply buried the bodies and continued on their way" - what a pile of horse&s)h@it... Yeah... the Red Army soldiers simply had nothing else to do in the heat of battle, but to bury the bodies they encountered (and bury them deep as allegedly they were not discovered for the next 30 years). Their bodies would simply lie in the street for a few days and then be buried somewhere in a mass grave, probably quite far from the place where they allegedly killed themselves. Most likely a hoax perpetrated in the 70's when Bormann really died.
Argentina was the second choice for Isreal by the Zionist party. It's funny that so many "Nazis" chose to go to a Zionist stronghold to escape the Zionist! The Zionist party and the Nazi party were both created by the same socialist democratic party in Austria. Greatest false flag of all time.
If you watch the documentary "hunting Hitler", Bormann was in charge of setting up escape routes to Argentina should the war end badly. Also, it was proven that he had an adopted daughter in the 50s under a different name in Buenos Aires. Also something was mentioned about how Bormanns' remains were found in Germany but had traces of red clay embedded on them that came only from Argentina. Good video but watch "hunting Hitler" also. Lots of eye-opening info there as well.
Borman's bones were found in 1978 right where Erik Kempka said he saw him laying lifeless in 1945. They were identified by dental examinations. This was verified by DNA testing in the 1990's by scientists at UCLA.
Todd Webb He probably wound up in Argentina, speaking lousy Spanish with a German word order. That gave away the "Butcher of Lyon..Barbie" living in France. In the wrong word order, he French speaking was!
@@yvesremy7096 Argentinian story could be correct. Look at the upper class Argentines , the rugby players. Those guys sure look way more European than South American.
Wrong, he lived a good life in South America before he died there and his remains were brought to Berlin afterwards...Bormann was initially laid to rest in South America!
Finding Boremanns bones in Berlin in the 1980s does not disprove that he died in South America and later had his bones moved to Berlin. Why this was done is any bodies guess, perhaps to avoid implicating powerful forces who had worked with the Nazis.
Excellent history. What you shared concerning the aftermath of WWI I can see how it set the stage for WWII, especially after the market crash of '29 that rippled around the world, all the way to Japan.
The Obersaltzberg surrounding land was bought by Bormann at well above market price, from Party funds. The landowners weren’t threatened but in effect bribed to sell up. This according to the memoir of one of AH’s secretaries.
This was great. Thank you. You really do excellent work, making me glad I subscribed. There is one last member of the Third Reich who did disappear after the war. And his fate is truly mysterious, as he had so much power, and knowledge of all things secret in the Reich. It is said he died in Czechia, is it true ? What became of Obergruppenführer Hans Kammler ?
You may be thinking of Alois Brunner who was assistant to Adolf Eichmann. I read that he had been so useful to the US after the war that although they knew that he was living in Damascus, Syria, the Israelis were warned by the US not to assassinate him. There were private attempts on his life and he lost fingers to booby-trapped books. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alois_Brunner
@@aerlial360 It is strange that the Syrians were preparing to extradite him to East Germany before 1989, but when East Germany ceased to exist........the wonderful 'Free World' were not interested. Sometimes I think that Stalin had a point. He claimed that 500 (I think that was the figure) knew of all the atrocities of the Nazi regime and that they should have been executed. The western allies got Generals Von Manstein and Halder to write the German version of WW2. This falsely portrayed the Weremacht as being honest soldiers who were fighting a war. They were-in Eastern Europe-a racist extermination machine.
Persistent myth is the correct phrase alright. Emphasis on the word myth. I recall them finding his bones with a second skeleton outside a railway station in 1970 or 71, when they were repairing a street. I also recall them finding small glass fragments between his teeth when they were identifying him by dental records. Potassium cyanide in a glass capsule is what probably did him in. It was speculated in the papers at that time that he may have been injured in a morter explosion, and then killed himself. I have always wondered who the second skeleton was. Stumpfeger. Thanks for the information professor.
There is a town in South Brazil called Peabiru, in Paraná state - where in the 50s and 60s a couple of Swiss men.... moved there and built a ceramic (bricks and tiles) factories on the outskirts. Arleto Rocha, the main local historian, said that those two ´´Swiss´´ never stepped in Peabiru, even though it layed 20 minuts by walk from the factory, and always sent one of their employees in town. One day, out of the blue, the 2 ´´Swiss´´ men just vanished from their factory and have never been seen after. They abandoned everything. I visited the ruins of this factory, a few years ago. I don´t know, Mossad should check that out if they are still interested in hunting ex-nazis.
Martin Bormann did live in the jungle in Argentina then died in and also he lived in the jungle there to Paraguay then his bones moved to Berlin in 1972
Lol ...I'm certain that Adolph himself was our high school gym teacher ..."You boys are veak und unfit for survival ,unvorthy of vearing de skool uniform...if it vere left up to me... all of you...'ladies' vould be sent to de Russian front."
Large parts of the sewers and subways were flooded or caved in, intentionally and unintentionally. Those parts that were still intact were recognized as the powerful tactical dimension that they are by both sides, and were subject to fighting fighting, probably very concentrated. I feel like the surface was the best bet for the rats to leave the sinking ship.
Martin Bormann did not die during WW2 in Germany, but he disguised himself and fled to Argentina. He was the only high ranking Nazi official who coordinated all Hitler's activities in Argentina. He used to meet with Hitler from time to time and before Hitler passed away in 1967, he had a 3-hour private meeting with Hitler. He portrayed himself as a businessman and he had an Argentinian girlfriend. His girlfriend's brother who revealed to her sister that the guy she was seeing was Martin Bormann.
Eichmann was talking bull shit then . Very interesting how there was a trail of clues and plenty of people to say that they saw or assisted in the escape 🤔 I wonder if the clues were deliberately placed there to confuse and the people were paid or just done it for notoriety . Good video.
I'm surprised no one as investigated the disappearance of the Daily Express on the Argentina, Paraguay border. Apparently, the paper has been running a secret and successful pig farm for decades.
The late Nazi hunter "Simon Wiesenthal" always believed Martin Bormann made it to South America and so did Mossad (Israeli Intelligence) and after they captured Adolf Eichmann in the 1960's, he revealed as to meeting/seeing both Bormann and Jozef Mengele there. There were even later reports of Bormann's son, who had become a Priest, going to or requesting to go to South America, perhaps to see his old Dad maybe? Obviously after Bormann's death and subsequent burial in South America, powers-to-be in 1972 Germany realised that the excavation works around where Bormann was supposed to have died in Berlin, was happening and it gave them the opportunity to secretly remove his remains and re-bury them conveniently there so that they could easily be found and thus put this to bed forever as modern science with DNA testing would prove, without doubt, that it was him, Unfortunately there seemed to be an oversight regarding the soil samples around the remains which contained soil-material not known in that area but strangely they matched soil samples from the area of South America where he was originally buried. I'm afraid that far from going away - the debate continues..... Please read the book by Paul Manning (WWII US investigative reporter) "MARTIN BORMANN - NAZI IN EXILE" - it'll open your eyes about how he and others were able to escape capture and more importantly how he persuaded German Businesses and Banks (many still around today incredibly) to help him and Germany survive the War with patents and financial bonds etc. Today some say he was one of the very early pioneers of the idea of the European Union... A very interesting read - please see the link below..... archive.org/details/Martin_Bormann_Nazi_in_Exile
This is very interesting. Thank you for sharing. I heard this discussed a few years ago, but had forgotten about the soil anomaly. It does indeed make sense. Your point about the EU is credible. The idea of what eventually became the EU was formalised at the first Bildeberg conference in 1954. It was hosted and chaired by Prince Bernhardt of Belgium who was a ‘Nazi’. I sometimes joke that the EU is the 4th Reich. But if you study the iconography of the USA, much that hasn’t been based upon the East India Company (stars and stripes), or stolen from the Natives, is Roman, and very reminiscent of the ‘Nazis’. Well, they did inherit all the important technology, and research such as that which was carried out in the concentration camps.
He didn't just threaten to send landowners to concentration camp. The next door neighbor of Hitlers property owner a hotel and had many people come to see Hitlers home. The owner was sent to Dachau but was released after a few months after he sold.
Your story says nothing about the teeth showing that they had aged and there was work done on them after 1945 and the presence of the red clay that does not belong in Europe and something about all the living eyewitnesses from South America. Why did you leave all this out? for relatives to have the right to the inheritance and for it to look better in everyone's eyes?
@@MyMartinaG there's DNA tested bones that were covered in red dirt not found in Germany thats true. The circumstances around the discovery of said bones seem a little far fetched though. Either way its of no consequence now, he's without doubt dead now and good riddance
I think you misspoke at 5:20 when you said "Hess flew to the United Kingdom to negotiate peace with the Nazis." He flew to the United Kingdom to negotiate peace with the BRITISH, not the Nazis.
Good video but you need to realize that Hitler did not die in the bunker. He escaped to Argentina where he lived the rest of his life until 1963. That has been proven.
Only if you believe that Gerrard Williams & 'Hunting Hitler' nonsense. You can usually tell when something is doubtful when critical comments are carefully avoided.
@@branden3785 but he is right, just as it was proven that Hitler had been hiding for a short period of time with Santa Claus and his elves on the North Pole ;)
The British well knew what happened to Bormann. Intelligence Officer Captain Ian Bell followed Bormann to Bari, and was ordered not to arrest him. His video is still here.
@@azoniarnl3362 Actually, yes! Isn't it odd that the architect of Operation Barbarossa, the Commissar Order and the Barbarossa Decree which completely radicalised the nature of warfare in the East died of old age in 1972?
lolololololol...riiiiiiight...IF he had somehow miraculously escaped to SA, you think he'd sign his real name somewhere ever again??? Conspiracy theorists are a bane to society.
Not true he died in South America swam in the see every day and died of a heart attack .His body was exhumed and re buried on a new building site in Berlin.The red sand was found on his body from the first burial in South America
That idea was shown in the "Hunting Hitler". The show interviewed some very credible witnesses who said that they knew him in South America. He was claimed to have died a natural death and was buried in S America. It is claimed that his bones were moved to Berlin years after his death. The bones "found" in Berlin were supposed to have traces of dirt on them that did not come from the Berlin area.
I’d really like to know your opinion on the work of Abel Basti, about the possibility of Hitler’s scape. Great videos, thanks! Best regards from Brazil.
Hess was NOT "Slow Witted"... He spoke German, English, French, AND Arabic...
He was also an Incredible Pilot. His flying feat to Scotland was almost unbelievable that he was so close on course.
I agree. He was highly intelligent....
he was smart but naive
Thanks
@@lawsharland7278 yes... Naive, extremely ego centric. He was a cruel, brutal soul, who loved animals and toy trains, sometimes bestowed kindness on anyone... Brilliant but brutal....
He was a British asset.
My Grandfather was in Berlin after the war, and he said we just bulldozed new streets through the rubble of the city. Pretty easy to imagine that a lot got buried, if not destroyed.
There are far more US MIA's from WW2 than Vietnam as well.
They NEVER bulldozed , the germans plucked every brick........
How true, i still believe Osama Bin Laden died in the caves of Torah Borah, i never bought into the honorable buried at sea narrative.
@@charles-y2z6c yet another conspiracy theory. Can you prove it?
@@michellebrown4903
Yes, I lived in the cave next door. Don't believe me?
Great video, glad the channel is doing well!
Thank you, likewise!
What you say may be true, but you do not answer some of the controversy. When Bormann's remains were discovered, they were discovered where they has searched many years earlier and had found nothing. They say that the remains of Bormann had post 1950 dental work, in other words some of the work these remains had dental work that was not developed until after 1950. Also apparently the remains of Bormann had a red clay with iron mannerization and there is apparently none of this clay any where near where these remains were found. But this clay is very common near areas that have iron in South America. You also have to consider the filmed interview of Jorge Silvio Colotto, Chief of Federal Police (Military) ADC to 8 Argentine Presidents including Juan Peron. Who in a filmed interview stated that Peron was in a meeting with a German person and Jorge was waiting outside. When the meeting was finished, Peron and this German person came out of the office and the person left. Jorge then said that Peron asked him if he new who that person was, he responded that he did not know. He then said Peron said it was Martin Bormann and he then said Peron put his finger and thumb to his lips and moving then as he was moving a zipper, he then said Peron said silencio. Now I would think that Jorge would have check out this to be positive of this and if he didn't how in gods name did he serve as Chief of the federal Police (Military). He also had an agreement that the film would not be released until after his death. He also stated that anyone displaying disloyalty deserves a bullet in the back. This may have something to do with why he wanted it to only be released after his death, or maybe he was protecting himself from someone else. Well Jorge died and it was released in 2008. The person who filmed and released it has claimed that he has received threatening phone calls advising him to keep his mouth shut. Also there is a woman born in Chile and would be about 66 to 70 years old today. He and her ex husbands family are 100% sure that her adoptive father was Martin Bormann, having and using another name. She thinks the reason that he adopted her, was to protect him from being extradition. In South American countries, they protect parents of children from their country from being extradition.
So as I said, you may be correct, but to convince me, you will need to address these issues. You can also watch the interview with Jorge Silvio Colotto on RUclips, though it is in Spanish, I can understand the language to understand what he is saying.
I am not trying to fuel a speculation, but you do not deal with these or any other issues. Not only do you need to express your facts, you have to explain all the others that dispute your findings. Then and only then can you truly convince people to believe what you say.
What an excellent comment
I was looking for this comment. I was surprised that these possibilities were not addressed in this presentation. I remain unconvinced of Axman's explanation. He claims he was with Bormann & Stumpfegger, yet he wakes up to find them dead & then he manages to escape? Sounds suspiciously like a cover up. That, plus the other points you mention cast doubt that Bormann died in the manner claimed.
Rumors are flying everywhere. The proof is the DNA.
@@samualcrocket1405 I will listen to anyone's theory if they can back it up with evidence. They also have to disprove all or as much evidence that contradicts the counter theories. I fully agree that the proof is in the DNA, I question on how the DNA got to the point of discovery. Now I have supplied the information on the video of Jorge Silvio Colotto and his interview, and I do not for one second think he was an idiot and did not know what he was doing, as if he was I am very sure he would not have been Chief of Military Police under 7 different Argentina Presidents including Juan Peron. Making the statement the proof is in the DNA does not clarify your opinion on the subject, but I am willing to listen to your opinion and any evidence you have to back it up.
@@d.thomkins2135 There are other videos on Bormann. Not only DNA proof but also dental records, a fractured collar bone from an earlier time, and he was found in the same place by construction workers where an eyewitness said he died. That is enough proof for most people.
You can create a conspiracy around it but there is not any evidence that he escaped anywhere, only unsubstantiated rumors.
Bormann waited around too long to leave. Some of the others that made it to South America left earlier.
When the found the bones you mentioned it is my understanding the bounds had a red soil on them only found in South America. There was a grave pointed out to some researchers in South America that was said to be of Bormann. No bones were found there, but, the red soil matched that found on the bones in Germany.
Why would someone move his bones? Nobody ever would’ve found them. You cant just take remains into a country without paperwork. You’re saying someone risked smuggling a body? Why would they take this risk?
He died in Berlin 1945 early May after he tried to flee from the Fuhrer Bunker and to avoid Soviet captivity he committed suicide.
His body was found 1973 and was confirmed 1998 with a DNA Test that it was his body.
He didn't survived the War and definitely not died in South Africa, this is fact, any other stories about him after the war is false. Period.
Red clay soil like that of Huntsville, Al where Warner von Braun did work under Op paperclip
@@scoldingwhisper it's not like the Nazis were fanatical or anything... Or pissing money from stolen gold. People could be motivated by either ideology, money, or both. Hell, you can pay people enough to murder someone. Why not move bones? And by 1972, there would have been plenty of former Nazis in high ranking positions all over public jobs in Berlin. Why would they do it? To cover up the lie and cast suspicion away from other colleagues who might still be in South America. That's why.
The red soil story is featured in doppelganger by Hugh Thomas and appears to be correct imo
By the way. the Paraguayan Police have released a report that they have an official document which states that Martin Bormann died in Asuncion, Paraguay in 1959. The papers revealed that he was known to live between Paraguay and Chile and that he died of stomach cancer. That is what his adopted daughter thought had happened to him, she still lives in Chile. He was initially looked at by a Paraguayan doctor and he told him that it was far too serious for any cure. It was only some time later that the doctor saw his picture as a wanted man, that he knew he was Martine Bormann. The papers also state that Josef Mengele travelled to Asuncion, Paraguay to treat Martine Bormann from 1958 to his death in 1959 and that is about when Josef Mengele applied for Paraguayan citizenship. It was also in 1956 when Marin Bormann arrived in Asuncion and lived south of the town with a man that Matin Bormann knew,
I do have a copy and the link to this information and will post it if requested or you can search for the paper the way I did.
@Tomkinsbc you are right sir. M Borman died in Asunción, Paraguay. He and his very powerful organization of Nazi, faked his death successfully.
Hey do share the link. Sounds really interesting.
When I was a child in the 60s I regularly saw magazine covers that promoted articles about the hunt for Bormann, one that I recall concerned a skull discovered in a Berlin subway tunnel.
Well, his remains were discovered during construction on a train station. Just in the 70's.
When I was a teen it was Josef Mengele that was everywhere and nowhere...
Billions of Germans were turned to dust literally my god 😮
Regarding the breakout, there were not "several tanks." The first breakout attempt over the Weidendammer Bridge at midnight had just two AFV's; a Tiger II, which led at the front, and a self-propelled gun. The Tiger led the procession of hundreds of soldiers, support staff and civilians over the bridge in the dark under heavy fire; it actually made it across but got stuck, ironically, when it pulled up to a tank trap made by Germans in the run up to the battle for Berlin. The tank managed to smash its way through but then got hit by an anti-tank round. Many walking behind it were killed, but despite being knocked over by the blast, Bormann and others survived. At that point, For those who made it across the bridge it was a case of 'every man for himself.' Bormann, Axmann, Schwaegermann and Stumpfegger went off together towards the railway yard, where they split up. Obviously your story picks it up from there. Their bodies were not buried by a random group of Soviet soldiers, as you say. The man who says he buried the bodies was a retired postal worker (Albert Krumnow) who said he and a colleague were ordered to do it by the Soviets. It was he who in 1965, took authorities to the spot where he said he'd buried them and nothing was found. When the bodies were discovered in 1972, they were only about 35 feet from the spot - the worker had just got his bearings slightly wrong.
If you have watched Hunting Hitler they Proved that the soil found on Borman's remain's did not match the soil where they were found him, but they matched the soil of his suppose grave that was in South America.
That shows really dumb in parts tho
He died in Berlin 1945 early May after he tried to flee from the Fuhrer Bunker and to avoid Soviet captivity he committed suicide.
His body was found 1973 and was confirmed 1998 with a DNA Test that it was his body.
He didn't survived the War and definitely not died in South Africa, this is fact, any other stories about him after the war is false. Period.
@@ravenmcclaw1725 also if he was gonna leave why would have remained loyal to hitler until the very end if he knew hitler would die in Berlin
@@Xorthane because first of all he was Hitler's deputy\personal secretary, he was always with him, if he would have fled when Hitler was still alive, he would have been killed for treason.
Second of all, he was too popular and one the most high ranking Nazi figures, the allies especially the Soviets wanted to have him and he knew he would die if they would find him.
Third, he was a Nazi to the core, he was loyal to Hitler and to the Nazi Ideology till the end.
Fourthly, because of his popularity, do you think he can just disappeare like that? And live a common life without disturbance? Every common German soldier knew his face, his voice and who he was, every Allied officer and above had Photos and descriptions about high ranking Nazis who should be important to catch.
Bounties were on their heads as well, somebody would have recognized him sooner or later anyway.
Fifth, Berlin was completely surrounded by the Soviets, no way to escape.
And how many high ranking Nazis successfuly escaped Berlin end of April 1945? Nobody, either they were killed, commited suicide, surrendered, was captured or were captured later on.
So what you can do if you already know, you will die anyway, either by your hand, by the allies or by a Jewish tribunal.
He tried it anyway to flee but eventually died trying 🤷
They? Ah, OK. Tinfoil head wearing flat earthers trying to debunk DNA matches with going into soil business. Got it.
In 1971 I did a research paper on Martin Bormann. I had access to files that at the time we’re not in the public domain. My conclusion was he did escape Germany and by way of Italy, North African countries, and shipping contacts that remained loyal to the Reich ended up in a small town near the intersection of Brazil, Paraguay, and Argentina. My sources stated he remained alive in 1971 and was heavily guarded by ex-SS soldiers who had also escaped Germany at the close of the war. This video seems to explain what happened to him after 1971,
Public or private domain is irrelevant. The quality of any evidence was third hand, speculative and built on conjecture with the distinct possibility your conclusion was drawn by your needs for some magical revelation. Unfortunately the principles of Ockham’s razor held truth. The mundaneness of the reality of war. Bormann died in a ditch like so many other casualties of war in those last futile chaotic days of the war. No mystery. No conspiracy just subjective conclusive DNA analysis.
@@oktfg - The sources remain restricted the last time I checked. The files came from two governmental intel agencies. Two person to author sources died within ten years of my paper. They were involved in the search and capture of several Nazi war criminals. One of which was Eichman (sp). DNA analysis can be botched and/or altered for political or related interests.
What happened to his wife and kids?
@@Madmen604 His wife Gerda died of cancer in 1946. They had 10 children. Martin jr became a catholic monk and was subject to accusations of sexual abuse. Martin jr also provided blood for the DNA tests on his father’s remains. Irmgard, Rudolf, Heinrich, Eva, Gerda and Fred lived anonymously. They cooperated with writers and documentary makers. Eike and Volker died at a young age
@@Madmen604 - There was not very much in regards to his family. I did read he married. If memory serves there were a couple of references to his family. Some reported they died during the fall of Berlin, others said they were elsewhere and possibly survived, and one stated they ended up in South America several yeas after the war ended. It was not part of the research I followed so I really cannot say which ending is correct.
Dude was def chilling in 🇦🇷 with Hitler and the gang drinking wine coolers after the war lol
Doubtful, sir.
Bormann didn't make it out of Berlin.. His fate was tied to Hitler, as soon as he would have left Hitler's side, it would have been game over for Bormann.
Bormann didn't have a way out, he was in Berlin too long, he waited too long and that is that.
Not sure how you got into my feed, but I'm here for it. Just subscribed. It's like falling into a (history) treasure chest!🙂
Welcome aboard!
No wonder, RUclips is a treasure room... (especially when combined with an Adblock-like program)
For those that believe that Martin Bormann escaped Berlin in the dying days of the war, here are some FACTS to consider. Borman was married with 10 children, and by all accounts a loving family man, why would he not contact his family during the years after the war? Also, Hitler's secretary Traudl Junge stated in many accounts of how Bormann and Ludwig Stumpfegger were believed to had died during his escape attempt. Bormann had a brother who was fairly high ranking officer and fled to South America in 1945 and it is more likely that Bormann's brother used his brothers name to gain favour in South America. As to the red clay, it was believed that it was reminisce of red bricks in the rubble of the bombed out buildings that had leached into the ground over the years. If someone reburied Bormann in Berlin decades after the end of the war, how would they know exactly where to bury the body, because it was found beside Stumpfegger's remains? In the excavation report, it was noted that the ground was undisturbed since initial burial. Martin Bormann and Ludwig Stumpfegger died in Berlin.
Dude I want to say that your intro is my favorite intro of any channel I’ve ever watched. I’m a film score buff, and the different emotions I get from each of the different notes are just incredibly perfect for conveying the quality of your channel and also the variety of historical topics you cover.
Thank you very much. It's Elgar's Cello Concerto, the second movement (but the entire concerto is worth listening to!)
Former werhmacht and ss soldiers and officers are rather common through Argentina, Brazil and Paraguay, people here dont seem to care at all. Even in Bolivia years ago I met a senile german man who and married to a distant relative and claimed he fled Germany during the war because allegedly, he lived in a small village that oposed nazi rule but would rather not mention its name and was freak out when I mention that many journalist would enjoy interviewing him, saying that he had it all with germany and didnt wish to hear or talk about it again.
Sus.
Today all these nazis say, "I was anti-nazi."
Because they escaped with hitler yo Argentina in 4 submarines with trillions in stole gold silver jewels art
the Catholic church helped them escape because they hated Jews.
I once met a german...blonde blue eyed. ..said he was from chile....hmmmm...
Really well presented, thank you
Thanks for information.
Dr. Joseph P Farell (Oxford) has written many books about this. There is no way Bormann died, he absolutely escaped and played a major role behind the scenes in the world for many years after the war.
He is well know for his conspiracy theories and making his 'evidence' fit his believes !. (Just because he went to Oxford dose not mean he is intelligent - just look at the British parliament !!!!).
@@ogribiker8535 I don't have all of his books, but I do have quite a few. Can you give examples of him making his evidence fit his beliefs?
Borman's group was crossing a bridge and ran into a Soviet tank with orders to stop anyone from crossing the bridge
They carried out their orders
They in fact discovered his remains relatively recently l believe, and confirmed it with DNA.
Yes, all the dummy QAnon weirdos agree with you. You are in good company.
When I was a boy, and I am 68 now, I heard about the British recruiting a former German soldier from WW1 to enter their secret service, and join the new German Army in the early 1920's. He ended up in the supply corps, and rose to high rank. It is said that he delayed the provision of long barreled guns for German tanks early in the war by a full year for instance. Have you heard of him, is he real, and how effective as an internal saboteur was he? Just wondering if you know if this is true or not, and if true, it might be a good story to tell.
I am 71, and I also heard a similar story in my youth. There is a movie from the late 1950's called "The Two-Headed Spy" starring Jack Hawkins. Both in the movie and in the story I heard, the spy was a British officer. He rose to the rank of Major-General in the German Heer, and was the highest placed Allied spy of WWII. However, to this day I do not know if the story is true.
There is also a series of stories that concern Reinhard Gehlen, a German who was a master spy. I am not familiar with this man's history, so I will just mention his name to you.
@@jasondaniel918 Thanks for the reply, I will try to find that movie!
Great work! Even though I've watched many many documentaries on him, only now did I get a conclusive answer to what happened to him.. thanks, stay safe!
Sadly this is the wrong answer. The dental records do not match Bormans skull which has dental work done after 1945. Plus things that his dentist did not do. Then the skull was encased in a soil not found in Germany but exactly the same as his reported burial site in south America. Then place where he was reportedly buried in 1945 by the postal workers is not the same place to where the body was found. So if he did die in 1945 then he was taken to south America for 14 years. had dental work done after he died. Then buried there for 20 year before being reburied in a different location back in Berlin. This is the latest and most upto date information. 5 short chapters that covers the known facts. ruclips.net/video/fUuAaVvigLw/видео.html
wonderful video, so glad i found House of History. this is stuff that i am obsessed with the dark history of war, especially ww2
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I would like to add this bit of evidence to this mystery. The soils found in the two corpus’ after exhuming them in Germany. Matched none of the local soils but a rare soil chemistry only found in Argentina. In the area of the grave stones.
@pyrotechnic5254 Hmmm you have evidence to support your theory of?!?!?! Interesting we meet “pyrotechnic5254”
Is it possible that he's body was moved after he died in Argentina. Also why would eichmann say he was still alive?
@@travispatocka4520 correct that is exactly what happened. It was confirmed by the FBI
@Tony Elberg No offense taken, we are just exchanging difference of opinion based on research and fact sharing. Stalin was the first to disclose his frustration that arriving first at the Berlin bunker and recovering a questionable double of Hitler. Then recovering bone fragments from a skull 💀, believed to be Hitlers, only to have it turn out to be a female after DNA testing. FYI Elvis OD mate
You must be nuts ... wanna buy a bridge??
Thank you, your research and opinions are solid.
I heard a slightly different story, that the remains of at least Bormann had an iron rich red clay. There was no such clay near where the remains were found, yet this clay is very common in South America. Also where they found the remains, is the same place where they had search years before for his remains. The remains of Bormann had post 1950 dental work that could not be explained. Also there was a filmed interview with Juan Peron's closest associate in Argentina, I believe his first name was Jodie or Jody, this was under agreement that it would not be published on air until after his death. He tells of a time when he was outside Peron's office and when the door opened a man with Peron came out to the area where Jodie was. The man left and Peron asked Jodie if he knew who that man was and Jodie replied that he did not. Peron stated to him that the person was Martin Bormann and raise his hand to his mouth and with the fore and thumb pinched together moved them across his lips and said "silencio". I am not sure if the spelling of his first name is correct or what his last name was, but he was not a man you would want to cross, but it is quite easy to find the film clip of this interview on UTube. Watch it and make your own conclusions. The person that made the interview with Jodie claimed that after the release he received a threatening telephone call.
I have not heard the interview but everything about the mud not matching German dirt and having dug there earlier (meaning they moved Bormans bones there after he dies in South America and were about to dig up the sight he was last seen in Germany)
@@michaelkaminski8339 I've heard the same thing. Berlin soil is very sandy. Roaming Soviet soldiers would not stop to bury anyone. But yes, it was his body "found in Berlin." Although Ladislas Farago's book is "discredited," I don't see the CIA doing the same legwork as the author. But who can say?
How did they move his body from some country in South America to Germany ?
@@wot4922 Airmail? Moving a sack of bones is a lot easier than moving a "body." If the German government didn't participate directly in the plant, they were happy to write off the escape story despite forensic evidence. The location of the last sighting of Bormann was well known. Makes you wonder if they kept an eye on it and waited for it to be dug up, under construction, so as to put the bones there. Or maybe it was done on short notice, a crime of opportunity, and no one had time to think about the clay embedded with the skull.
@@aj-2savage896 very intetesting. Thanks for your insight. Be well.
Video recommendation: Sure would be interesting to learn more about the disappearance of George Mallory & Andrew Irvine on Mount Everest in 1924 ... (Thanks for your Great Videos)
That's a great suggestion, thanks!
they found Mallory's body.
@@lestermount3287 Thank you. I was about to say so. So sad, his broken legged weather beaten, aurak assaulted body lying there on that treacherous pebble strewn slope............
They haven't found his camera though.
This is a great channel. Keep it up dude.
Great video mate, I like you style of narrating as well. 👍🏻
And you failed to mention that Clay was found near that body which only originates from South America
Northrende so what exactly are you saying?I don't know what you mean by "Clay" was found.
@@flyingsteel Conspiracy theorists. Don't confuse them with facts. They'll only come up with another
equally implausibly bizarre story, to wit: he was "dug up at a later date and placed back in the ground
in Germany" Pfffffffffffft ?!? "Many verifiable facts......" as in all sort things that would need to be
verified first that he did live in SA. AND WHICH HAVE NOT BEEN NOR ARE THEY "VERIFIABLE"
75 years later. It was theorized by conspiracy theorists and of course are incorrect.
@@clambroth1923
'Conpiracy theorist' is the slur people like you use when you have no genuine rebuttal or facts to the contrary!
To be considered relevant, try harder next time and stop whining!!
@@richardsimons6978 "Slur" for good reason. People like you who ignore facts,
scientific & forensic evidence and witness accounts in order to vomit out
cockamamie rumors based wholly upon conjecture, 4th and 5th hand
supposition are indeed conspiracy theorists. The story in question and
that which I am specifically responding to is supported by: 1. first hand
eyewitness accounts of those present at the suicide. 2. Scientific and
forensic evidence including dental records, match to Bormann. That is
conclusive evidence. Case closed. Enter the conspiracy theorists. Sorry
to burst your fat balloon richard simmons. Now place your hands over your
eyes and ears & scream nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah, nyah. Finds some facts dude.
@@richardsimons6978 What facts? Is there anyone that can provide any credible information about this so called clay found on the bodies other than "I heard"?
You are VERY well spoken with convincing Info on a murky topic. What became of THE Borman Family? Thanks!
They lived out the rest of their lives in South America and they all died of old age crazy huh but true!
Thanks,in part to the Vatican.🤬
Dumb. Do a little research
100 percent correct
Yeah thanks to the Germans!
Angel of death did well eh?🤬
15:27 "Because the soldiers didn't know they were dealing with two of the most wanted N(az^is, they simply buried the bodies and continued on their way" - what a pile of horse&s)h@it... Yeah... the Red Army soldiers simply had nothing else to do in the heat of battle, but to bury the bodies they encountered (and bury them deep as allegedly they were not discovered for the next 30 years). Their bodies would simply lie in the street for a few days and then be buried somewhere in a mass grave, probably quite far from the place where they allegedly killed themselves. Most likely a hoax perpetrated in the 70's when Bormann really died.
Thank you for another extremely well done video Oscar. I hope your channel continues to grow and grow. 👍🏼
Thank you, I'm happy you continue to enjoy the videos and am grateful for your continued support!
@@HoH
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An excellent video, HoH.
When somebody talk about nazis fugitives...............one word always rise.........."Argentina".....
@Brian Hayter Of course not......but many yes...
You for got USSA and USSR, i.e. many became employed for the excellent knowledge - mainly in the scientific field.
@Brian Hayter yea some went to hell
Argentina was the second choice for Isreal by the Zionist party.
It's funny that so many "Nazis" chose to go to a Zionist stronghold to escape the Zionist!
The Zionist party and the Nazi party were both created by the same socialist democratic party in Austria.
Greatest false flag of all time.
@Wilson Forget about, private.
I think I speak for the 99% here when I demand, *what happened to the stylish suit* from a few videos ago? 🤔😄
Idc. You're not speaking for many of us
Good to see you, brother
I’m in the 1% that couldn’t care less!
@@Prog4Prog You cared enough to comment.
@@Flint-Dibble-the-Don is a social justice warrior
If you watch the documentary "hunting Hitler", Bormann was in charge of setting up escape routes to Argentina should the war end badly. Also, it was proven that he had an adopted daughter in the 50s under a different name in Buenos Aires. Also something was mentioned about how Bormanns' remains were found in Germany but had traces of red clay embedded on them that came only from Argentina. Good video but watch "hunting Hitler" also. Lots of eye-opening info there as well.
Borman's bones were found in 1978 right where Erik Kempka said he saw him laying lifeless in 1945. They were identified by dental examinations. This was verified by DNA testing in the 1990's by scientists at UCLA.
Excellent narration you make history more interesting 🧐 cool channel fella👍🇬🇧
Thank you kindly
How come you didn't mention the non indigenous clay found on his body that was identified as south American?
Or the post 1940's dental work done on the teeth
Because he uses real sources of information and not conspiracy theory videos on RUclips.
@@branden3785 this information greatly predated youtube.
From my point of view a most excellent description and historical view of the subject, Martin Bormann. Thanks (UK 77yo).
Thank you!
Bormann's body was eventually found. The highest ranking that simply vanished like a fart in the wind is Heinrich Müller
ruclips.net/video/j--Ci3d9RWU/видео.html
Todd Webb
He probably wound up in Argentina, speaking lousy Spanish with a German word order.
That gave away the "Butcher of Lyon..Barbie" living in France. In the wrong word order, he French speaking was!
Hans Kammler as well
A body was found in mullers uniform in the Berlin subway system but was simply buried. Mark Felton has a great special on it.
Very interesting and informative. You have a wonderful clear speaking voice, very nice to listen to 🌞
Thank you kindly, Christine!
I believe he got away to Argentina 🇦🇷
Yes, the speaker is a horribel liar!
Together with hitler..
Informative and straight to the point... love documentaries that are like that, keep up the great work.
Many thanks, Jeff!
Argentina it seems and Hitler also ended up there
Ah yes, and what about Michael Jackson, John Kennedy and Elvis Presley? Also there? :-)
@@yvesremy7096 Argentinian story could be correct. Look at the upper class Argentines , the rugby players. Those guys sure look way more European than South American.
Bryan Orford
Naw It's all wrong. He's on the far side of the moon with Elvis Presley and Shergar, living in
a London bus!
Thanks, Dawg! Very nice job!
Mr.Borman was spotted in Argentina but ran many endeavors, he had at his discretion all the wealth of Europe to live a very low key successful life..
Nein. Two bodies were found years after Bormann had been killed trying to get out of Berlin.
Wrong, he lived a good life in South America before he died there and his remains were brought to Berlin afterwards...Bormann was initially laid to rest in South America!
Finding Boremanns bones in Berlin in the 1980s does not disprove that he died in South America and later had his bones moved to Berlin. Why this was done is any bodies guess, perhaps to avoid implicating powerful forces who had worked with the Nazis.
Agreed
Thanks for posting
My pleasure!
Excellent history. What you shared concerning the aftermath of WWI I can see how it set the stage for WWII, especially after the market crash of '29 that rippled around the world, all the way to Japan.
I subscribed. Your videos are very intriguing.
Would like to see you do a complete story of Ernst Rohm to include what was done with his body after his execution.
His body was released to his family and now lies at the family grave(his rank on headstone) in Munich
Excellent video thanks....🖖
Glad you liked it!
The Obersaltzberg surrounding land was bought by Bormann at well above market price, from Party funds. The landowners weren’t threatened but in effect bribed to sell up. This according to the memoir of one of AH’s secretaries.
Thanks for this video 😀
No problem 👍
This was great. Thank you. You really do excellent work, making me glad I subscribed. There is one last member of the Third Reich who did disappear after the war. And his fate is truly mysterious, as he had so much power, and knowledge of all things secret in the Reich. It is said he died in Czechia, is it true ? What became of Obergruppenführer Hans Kammler ?
Thanks for the suggestion, I've been meaning to create a video about that!
Didn't he end up protected in Syria or was that another high-ranking nazi?
You may be thinking of Alois Brunner who was assistant to Adolf Eichmann. I read that he had been so useful to the US after the war that although they knew that he was living in Damascus, Syria, the Israelis were warned by the US not to assassinate him. There were private attempts on his life and he lost fingers to booby-trapped books. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alois_Brunner
@@robertbennett9949 Yes you're right. Thank you.
@@aerlial360 It is strange that the Syrians were preparing to extradite him to East Germany before 1989, but when East Germany ceased to exist........the wonderful 'Free World' were not interested. Sometimes I think that Stalin had a point. He claimed that 500 (I think that was the figure) knew of all the atrocities of the Nazi regime and that they should have been executed. The western allies got Generals Von Manstein and Halder to write the German version of WW2. This falsely portrayed the Weremacht as being honest soldiers who were fighting a war. They were-in Eastern Europe-a racist extermination machine.
Wow, didnt know the war criminal was conclusively I'D. Weird times.
He lived in Chile, in La Unión, Trumao, Las Trancas.
This entire piece is so well written. Nice work. I'm looking forward to binging your content.
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Persistent myth is the correct phrase alright. Emphasis on the word myth. I recall them finding his bones with a second skeleton outside a railway station in 1970 or 71, when they were repairing a street. I also recall them finding small glass fragments between his teeth when they were identifying him by dental records. Potassium cyanide in a glass capsule is what probably did him in. It was speculated in the papers at that time that he may have been injured in a morter explosion, and then killed himself. I have always wondered who the second skeleton was. Stumpfeger. Thanks for the information professor.
Extremely well presented. thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
There is a town in South Brazil called Peabiru, in Paraná state - where in the 50s and 60s a couple of Swiss men.... moved there and built a ceramic (bricks and tiles) factories on the outskirts. Arleto Rocha, the main local historian, said that those two ´´Swiss´´ never stepped in Peabiru, even though it layed 20 minuts by walk from the factory, and always sent one of their employees in town. One day, out of the blue, the 2 ´´Swiss´´ men just vanished from their factory and have never been seen after. They abandoned everything. I visited the ruins of this factory, a few years ago. I don´t know, Mossad should check that out if they are still interested in hunting ex-nazis.
Mossad hunt Nazis even in their sleep 😂🤣 Lol
Martin Bormann did live in the jungle in Argentina then died in and also he lived in the jungle there to Paraguay then his bones moved to Berlin in 1972
Almost positive he was my high school shop teacher
Where abouts were you ?
Wow!
Mine too. He also taught algebra.
@@furnasstone3995 those were some tough teachers back then
Lol ...I'm certain that Adolph himself was our high school gym teacher ..."You boys are veak und unfit for survival ,unvorthy of vearing de skool uniform...if it vere left up to me... all of you...'ladies' vould be sent to de Russian front."
Wonderful video.
12:40 doesn't look 100 years old, looks about 60 years old, a picture from the early 1970's?
Seen meeting Peron in Argentina
@Miriam Khaser Heard these rumours.
Crazy to think he was not smart enuff to use the sewer?
Moving around at night is risky.
Great video! Perfect Sunday morning!!
Glad you found it interesting - and good morning! ☕
Even he had to get out of a sewer ...
Even rats know to use the sewer.
Large parts of the sewers and subways were flooded or caved in, intentionally and unintentionally. Those parts that were still intact were recognized as the powerful tactical dimension that they are by both sides, and were subject to fighting fighting, probably very concentrated. I feel like the surface was the best bet for the rats to leave the sinking ship.
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In the sewer he would have been brilliantly camouflaged. One piece of shit looks much like another!
Martin Bormann did not die during WW2 in Germany, but he disguised himself and fled to Argentina. He was the only high ranking Nazi official who coordinated all Hitler's activities in Argentina. He used to meet with Hitler from time to time and before Hitler passed away in 1967, he had a 3-hour private meeting with Hitler. He portrayed himself as a businessman and he had an Argentinian girlfriend. His girlfriend's brother who revealed to her sister that the guy she was seeing was Martin Bormann.
Eichmann was talking bull shit then . Very interesting how there was a trail of clues and plenty of people to say that they saw or assisted in the escape 🤔 I wonder if the clues were deliberately placed there to confuse and the people were paid or just done it for notoriety . Good video.
I'm surprised no one as investigated the disappearance of the Daily Express on the Argentina, Paraguay border. Apparently, the paper has been running a secret and successful pig farm for decades.
The late Nazi hunter "Simon Wiesenthal" always believed Martin Bormann made it to South America and so did Mossad (Israeli Intelligence) and after they captured Adolf Eichmann in the 1960's, he revealed as to meeting/seeing both Bormann and Jozef Mengele there. There were even later reports of Bormann's son, who had become a Priest, going to or requesting to go to South America, perhaps to see his old Dad maybe? Obviously after Bormann's death and subsequent burial in South America, powers-to-be in 1972 Germany realised that the excavation works around where Bormann was supposed to have died in Berlin, was happening and it gave them the opportunity to secretly remove his remains and re-bury them conveniently there so that they could easily be found and thus put this to bed forever as modern science with DNA testing would prove, without doubt, that it was him, Unfortunately there seemed to be an oversight regarding the soil samples around the remains which contained soil-material not known in that area but strangely they matched soil samples from the area of South America where he was originally buried. I'm afraid that far from going away - the debate continues.....
Please read the book by Paul Manning (WWII US investigative reporter) "MARTIN BORMANN - NAZI IN EXILE" - it'll open your eyes about how he and others were able to escape capture and more importantly how he persuaded German Businesses and Banks (many still around today incredibly) to help him and Germany survive the War with patents and financial bonds etc. Today some say he was one of the very early pioneers of the idea of the European Union...
A very interesting read - please see the link below.....
archive.org/details/Martin_Bormann_Nazi_in_Exile
This is very interesting. Thank you for sharing. I heard this discussed a few years ago, but had forgotten about the soil anomaly. It does indeed make sense.
Your point about the EU is credible. The idea of what eventually became the EU was formalised at the first Bildeberg conference in 1954. It was hosted and chaired by Prince Bernhardt of Belgium who was a ‘Nazi’.
I sometimes joke that the EU is the 4th Reich. But if you study the iconography of the USA, much that hasn’t been based upon the East India Company (stars and stripes), or stolen from the Natives, is Roman, and very reminiscent of the ‘Nazis’.
Well, they did inherit all the important technology, and research such as that which was carried out in the concentration camps.
He didn't just threaten to send landowners to concentration camp. The next door neighbor of Hitlers property owner a hotel and had many people come to see Hitlers home. The owner was sent to Dachau but was released after a few months after he sold.
Your story says nothing about the teeth showing that they had aged and there was work done on them after 1945 and the presence of the red clay that does not belong in Europe and something about all the living eyewitnesses from South America. Why did you leave all this out? for relatives to have the right to the inheritance and for it to look better in everyone's eyes?
Good video.
lol that guy at 10:15 got knocked to his ass by the artillery
I think he got killed by it
Wow, this was uploaded pretty early for a recommended video
Hope you enjoyed it!
He was a very interesting man
the ideal CORPORATION man. !! he would be ideal for IKEA !!
Maybe president of STIHL ??
Yeh...had an interesting chat with him yesterday
Great video
There’s evidence and witnesses that say he lived and died in Argentina.
and there is conclusive evidence he died in Berlin. We all know how reliable so-called witnesses are.
@@MyMartinaG there's DNA tested bones that were covered in red dirt not found in Germany thats true. The circumstances around the discovery of said bones seem a little far fetched though. Either way its of no consequence now, he's without doubt dead now and good riddance
I think you misspoke at 5:20 when you said "Hess flew to the United Kingdom to negotiate peace with the Nazis." He flew to the United Kingdom to negotiate peace with the BRITISH, not the Nazis.
Good video but you need to realize that Hitler did not die in the bunker. He escaped to Argentina where he lived the rest of his life until 1963. That has been proven.
Only if you believe that Gerrard Williams & 'Hunting Hitler' nonsense. You can usually tell when something is doubtful when critical comments are carefully avoided.
Well it actually hasn't been proven ronno
Hear that everyone? It was PROVEN! So says random internet poster. FACTS, people! lol
@@branden3785 but he is right, just as it was proven that Hitler had been hiding for a short period of time with Santa Claus and his elves on the North Pole ;)
Is the golden crest above your right shoulder in between the white board and the book shelf from Hungary by chance? The Royal crest?
Yes - you are the first of millions of viewers to point it out.
Most well know secretary ever. And effective.
Knowledge is power! Secretary’s can be the ‘hidden’ enemy within if not treated well 😏
Great video. Nice bit of Elgar at the start.
Thanks, and glad you recognised Elgar!
The British well knew what happened to Bormann. Intelligence Officer Captain Ian Bell followed Bormann to Bari, and was ordered not to arrest him. His video is still here.
Lmao you’re funny. Dumb as hell but funny.
@@holdendavid9025 Dumb is not doing your research. You heard of Captain Ian Bell? I thought not!
Its nice with people who doesnt call those who disagree idiots. To rare on internet.
Food for thought HOH. Bormann is so low profile in our studies of the Nazi era, yet he was there in the centre, fully formed. Strange.
Same goes for Franz Halder.
@@azoniarnl3362 Actually, yes! Isn't it odd that the architect of Operation Barbarossa, the Commissar Order and the Barbarossa Decree which completely radicalised the nature of warfare in the East died of old age in 1972?
There was a check drawn over martin bormann's signature from a south american bank and chase manhattan from the 1950s
lolololololol...riiiiiiight...IF he had somehow miraculously escaped to SA, you think he'd sign his real name somewhere ever again??? Conspiracy theorists are a bane to society.
The check exist it published in a one of Joseph Farrells books the nazi international.
But according to "Hunting Hitler" series, there was many "creadible" sightings of Borman both in Spain and later in South Amerika..?
Looks like the book or TV series was wrong.
@@andrewdock7288 who knows....
The house of history icon is awsome
Thank you for this informative presentation. I just adore your speaking voice. Yes, I'd enjoy hearing about Horst Wessel the reality vs. the myth.
Great suggestion!
Not true he died in South America swam in the see every day and died of a heart attack .His body was exhumed and re buried on a new building site in Berlin.The red sand was found on his body from the first burial in South America
Half your story is correct. The first half you're talking about Mengele.
Read The Grey Wolf by Gerald Williams, it has the answer you require
Hahahahaha!
Grey wolf has no answers whatsoever..pure conjecture without an ounce of proof.. pathetic ramblings of an attention seeking third rate journalist
@@stephenplatt5629 you've clearly read it !
He died , it's proven. Near a bridge in Berlin
Yes you're right this man should do more research
What of the rumors that the body, when found had traces of Paraguay clay?
That idea was shown in the "Hunting Hitler". The show interviewed some very credible witnesses who said that they knew him in South America. He was claimed to have died a natural death and was buried in S America. It is claimed that his bones were moved to Berlin years after his death. The bones "found" in Berlin were supposed to have traces of dirt on them that did not come from the Berlin area.
Martin bormann lived he died of cancer late 50s
I’d really like to know your opinion on the work of Abel Basti, about the possibility of Hitler’s scape. Great videos, thanks! Best regards from Brazil.
Really love your videos. My relatives are from Germany and I’ve always been fascinated with this time period.
All the other bad guys hated Borman. It is doubtful that any of them would give him the protection he would of needed in order to escape.
fahs
would have needed.