Culture shock in Norway
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2023
- This video is about 10 cultural differences between Norwegians and Germans that really surprised us.
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Danke für das Video, sehr interessant 👍
Interessanter Kanal! Ich folge bereits einem Auswanderer nach Japan und einem nach USA. Norwegen finde ich auch ganz spannend.
Ich finde es faszinierend, in die Lebens- und Denkweise anderer Kulturen einzutauchen. Bin schon ganz gespannt deine nächsten Videos zu sehen.
Grüße aus dem Taunus
Vielen Dank!
Ich bin Norweger, und Ihr Video finde ich ganz interessant👍. Mein wohnort ist etwa 30 km von der Stadtmitte Oslos entfernt, und ich war in der Hauptstadt geboren.
Ihre Observation von Norwegischen Autofahrern ist ganz korrekt, doch fühle ich mich selber nicht schultig. Zu viele leute fahren auf den "motorwegen" als ob sie auf den Deutschen Autobahns wären, geschwindigkeit frei! Deshalb fahre ich oft lieber auf den kleineren paralellwegen, wo alles nicht so hektisch ist. Vor allem sind die Fahrer von grossen BMWs, Audis und Mercedes Benz, gern schwartzfarbig und mit einer Skikaste am Dach, daran schuldig. "King of the Road" kompleks, wahrscheinlich.
Ja, und schliesslich, entschuldigen Sie bitte mein Deutsch, es ist weit von einwandfrei😊
Wenn mein Norwegisch nur halb so gut wäre, wäre ich glücklich! Vielen Dank für deinen Kommentar. Ich freue mich, dass so viele Norweger dieses Video sehen. Gerade der Punkt mit den Autofahrern scheint ein großer Diskussionspunkt zu sein. Das sehen die Leute sehr unterschiedlich.
Nice video. I can understand everything, but my grammar isn't good enough to reply back in German, sorry.
I also live on the west coast and found your observations really interesting. Your positive outlook makes me wonder how long you've lived here, because sometimes there's like a "honeymoon" phase when moving somewhere new. However I'm glad you find Norwegians to be happy and helpful so far. The difference is maybe more visible in a small place versus a city, but in my opinion people in the Bergen area are easier to talk to/get help from than people in the east and south, maybe because we had a lot of influence from Germany and The Netherlands ever since the medieval times and it feels more international and open despite it being small on a european scale.
It's also a nice observation that Germans are like Japanese when it comes to punctuality, because I always thought Norwegians also are a bit like the Japanese when it comes to politeness, customs (taking shoes off) public quietness and so on. Also agree about the somewhat agressive drivers, but only if you drive too slow :) I'm also guilty of screaming in my car at other drivers, like passive agressively, would never do it to their face of course 😇
Good luck with your new life here!
Hi! Thanks for your comment. I hope you where only half amused by my video as I was about your comment. It made me smile the whole time I read it.
To be honest I first had an anti-honeymoon phase after we came to Norway. No friends, don't know how to manage anything and so on. I think we settled now and I begin to feel happy here. We are living on a small island and have lived in Hamburg before. So thats a big change, too.
I have to agree with you when it comes to the Japanese and the Norwegians. They really have in common their politeness. That's the main point where I see the biggest difference between Germans and Japanese. I consider Germans quite unpolite.
I really enjoyed your comment. Thank you
Tolles, authentisches Video :)
Vielen Dank :-)
Nice video!! The place looks like my place tho.. no trees?! Solund?
Yes, just a few trees here. Solund is not that far. We live on Sotra. Probably its the fastes way to go by boat to Solund. Once we have a bigger Boat we should do that.
Also wir waren im November in Oslo Lillehammer und Kristiansand und kann auch nur positives sagen. Auch meine Lkw Fahrer Kollegen fahren gerne nach Norwegen.
Nice I like your video.
Thank you! I hope you subscribed then ;-)
Interesting observations, but I am curious, where have you lived when you used to live in Germany? I have a strong suspicion that most of what you describe here is just the generic difference between living in an urban society vs. living in a more rural society. All of Norway is pretty rural, even Oslo is relativey small, compared to Germany, but let us say, if you had moved out to a small village on the countryside in Germany instead, I suspect that you might have made the exact same observations there.
Hi, before we came to Norway we lived in the Borders of Hamburg. It was still the City of Hamburg but had a quite feeling like the countryside with a lot of cows and horses. Feel free to google "Ohlstedt Hamburg Germany". I moved in Germany 11 times from one place to another and some of the places where such remote like the place I am living now in Norway. It's not that rual here in Øygarden. We have a big shopping center and a lot of houses. However I always lived in the north of Germany and its a big difference between south and north.
Oh yeah, much more laid back. In particular on the west coast, if you miss a ferry and have 1 hour to wait, can't get stressed by that, just need to chill, same if there is a snow storm, no stress, need to slow down in Norway. Yep, positive easy going, the weather is is so bad, that it's a survival trick to make jokes. When hiking we genuinely get happy to meet another human. The more isolated and far away it is, we say "hei". I like this rule and do it when hiking in other countries too, l get strange looks at times, but usually foreigners lighten up and smile back. On the driving.... we got highways just some years ago, still learning that, haha
Haha? Thank you for your positive comment. I am glad that you seemed to enjoy my video and agree.
@@nixwiewegnorwegen yes, I think your cultural shock was pretty similar to other Germans I know. Good luck adopting, even if our driving feel more aggressive and less organized, you are safe, fatality rate is the lowest in all OECD countries:
www.bitre.gov.au/publications/ongoing/international_road_safety_comparisons
by population, by cars, by km driven. The German fatality rates are very low when considering the much higher speed.
Thanks for sharing your experience, but you can’t tell how Norway is like based on experiences living in one community. There are huge cultural differences in Norway.
Thank you for your comment. I know. Didn't I said that this is my subjektive experience from the westcoast?!
@@nixwiewegnorwegen
I didn't mean to criticize you. But yes, considering the title and context of your presentation, I also found some generalizations. That was at least how I understood you. It seems like many believe that Norwegians are generally the same all over the country. You have found many contradictions to the rumors about the Norwegian stereotype, so I see that I might have misinterpreted your contextual statements. Well, that’s due to the subtext, because I am not very fluent in the German language.
It was absolutely not my intention to cast doubt on your experiences and perceptions.
Danke, ich kann die Punkte bis auf das Autofahren bestätigen 😊 Ja, manche haben es sehr eilig, aber Gott sei Dank nicht die meisten. Ich fahre dann kurz rechts ran und lass sie vorbei, bevor sie wirklich in der nächsten Kurve überholen 😬 Für mich waren auch die Tischsitten sehr gewöhnungsbedürftig, besonders bei den Älteren. Reden mit vollem Mund und schmatzen ist normal 😅 Bin gespannt auf den 2. Teil 😃
Danke! Das mit den Tischsitten ist echt gut! Wir wollten unsere älteren Nachbarn mal zum Essen nach Hause einladen. Bin schon gespannt 😀
Unfortunately, my secondary school German is not good enough for communication, so I take it in English.
Nice to hear that you have a positive impression of Norwegians, although I got the impression that there might be a bit too much of a good thing. I myself am from the north of the country, and can confirm that there are big cultural differences. Northerners are open to strangers, but also outspoken and very direct. It doesn't always go down well. Now I live on the coast in the south, and even though the people here are different from where I come from, I feel good here.
I can relate to Norwegians being aggressive drivers. I myself love to speed up the cart, but can also slow down behind someone who is driving slowly - until it is okay to pass if I am on a long drive. The authorities keep an eye on us in every way imaginable, so when we get the chance to be a little mischievous we do it, whether it's smuggling in a little extra alcohol or meat or driving a little too fast. Also, don't forget that Norwegians are used to winding roads, so the speed that foreigners find safe is lower than the speed that Norwegians handle well. Nothing is more annoying than foreigners driving slowly through all the bends and speeding up on the plains, when you have the chance to pass. Please, don't do it until you've let those behind pass by.
I wish you the best of luck with your Norwegian experience.
Thank you for your comment. I really enjoyed it. I would really like to get to know some people from the north. To be honest I like the outspoken and direct type. I am not easely offended. But however, we like the climate here and the nature. So it's not going to happen for us to go north.
@@nixwiewegnorwegen West is beautiful, both nature and the people. Northerners are everywhere, so you probably will meet some there, too. We have escaped from the long winters - or we fell i love with a Southerner.
Hi 🙋♂️ danke für dieses schöne Video
Wo nach Norwegen seid Ihr ausgewandert?
Hi! Danke für deinen Kommentar. Wir leben in der Umgebung von Bergen und finden es toll hier :-)
@@nixwiewegnorwegen ah ok cool, mich würde brennend interessieren wie die schulische Versorgung von grundschulkindern ist bzw. Wir überlegen ebenfalls auszuwandern, irgendwo an die Küste, wo man auch einen richtigen Winter hat und eher in ein ruhigen Dorf. Gibt es in solch Gegend einen bustransfer für Kinder, in die Schule?
@@FischundAction Wenn Du noch 1,5 Wochen warten magst, dann beantworte ich Dir das gerne in einem VIdeo. Als nächstes kommt aber erstmal Teil 2 vom Kulturschock. die Woche drauf kann ich gerne ein Video zum Schulsystem bringen und diese Frage beantworten. Ich mach mich dann nochmal gezielt bei ein paar Norwegern schlau, wie das hier in Orten läuft die sehr abseits liegen.
@@nixwiewegnorwegen du hast einen Abonnenten mehr 😅✌️
@@FischundAction My German is poor, so I'll reply in English. Please note that here on the west coast, in the Bergen area, we have very mild and wet winters, probably even milder than where you currently live. The average temperature in the coldest months, January and February, is around +1 to +2 C.
I remember clearly beeing lost in Bremen or at the bridge. A German lady stopped her Brand New merc asked: Darf Ich ihnen hilfen? So, sweet as the vlogger is and being here, I bet there are still some kind and helpful left in Germany
Sure there are. But its never your Neighbour ;-D
Ich glaub das mit mit der Nachbarschaftshilfe kommt sehr auf die Gegend an. Ich wohne seit 13Jahren hier und hab von süd, nord und west überall gewohnt. Meine Erfarhrung ist, dass die Nachbarn in Oslo mit einem überhaupt nichts zu tun haben wollten. Im Norden waren sie freundlich, aber oft sehr oberflächlich. Meine Erfahrung war, dass Leute gerne sagen "einfach fragen wenn du Hilfe brauchst" und wenn man sie wirklich braucht, steht man dann alleine da. Da muss man wohl Glück haben wo man wohnt. Hier im Westen sind sie wesentlich mehr hilfsbereit als anderswo. Mit dem Autofahren find ich eigentlich mehr stressig in Deutschland zu fahren. Da wird man öfter gedrängelt find ich, speziell auf der Autobahn ist heftig wenn man es nicht merh gewöhnt ist. Für mich war es interessant wie unterschiedlich Nord und Süd sind. Im Norden ist Fluchen im normalen Sprachgebrauch überall und relativ grober Humor. Das war schon eine Umgewöhnung, weil hier in Bergen ist das überhaupt nicht so. Musste man sich wieder abgewöhnen.
Vielen Dank für deinen Kommentar. Ich gebe Dir recht, dass die Mentalität innerhalb Norwegens komplett unterschiedlich ist. Bei der Nachbarschaftshilfe ist vielleicht dazu zu sagen, dass wir auf einer kleinen Insel wohnen. Daran könnte es auch liegen dass man hier mehr "zusammenhällt".
In Hamburg haben wir wiederum die Erfahrungen gemacht, die Du in Oslo gemacht hast. So unterschiedlich kann das sein 😅
@@nixwiewegnorwegenJa ich glaube je kleiner der Ort, desto mehr halten die Leute zusammen. Speziell wenn es weit bis zur nächsten größeren Stadt ist. Das mit den anonymen Großstädten ist wohl überall so. Ich kannte meine Nachbarn in Kopenhagen auch nicht sonderlich gut. :)
I can tell you all this much. The woman in the video has certainly not found the average Norwegian anywhere she looked.
Thanks for your comment. I would love to know where I am the most mistaken. Even if I overthink it, I can't tell where I am wrong. This is just my (german) perspective living on an island on the Westcoast. I don't think the real average Norwegian exist, because the differences between North, south and west are to big.
@@nixwiewegnorwegen "Norwegians find Haaland very attractive" that's a stretch of the imagination, if anything i'm certain you were told this by a swede.
"Aggressive drivers", the scenarios you speak of would be if you drive 10-20 below the speed limit, if there's one thing norwegians are strict about, then it would be the speed-limit.
Punctuality, for private/personal arrangements, within 5 minutes of previously established starting time can be very acceptable, but for more professional matters; 5-15 minutes before is atleast to be expected.
As for norwegian commercials, you could find on youtube, "weird norwegian commercial compilation" if you want to share with your friends
As a Norwegian myself, you are absolutely correct.@@nixwiewegnorwegen
@@nixwiewegnorwegen you right, we way less on time, structured, order, stressed... the west slow you down, much more connected now, not that long ago we got ferry free and winter secure road between the two biggest cities, the old west coast roads was epic, narrow, steep, dirt roads, had meeting points, no auto fence. On Internet you find haters, seen this one before, always negative.
As someone who is friends with norwegians and also been to norway for several months i think shes spot on
We from west are also different. Please do not compare us from Stavanger with someone from Bergen for instance 🤗😎🇧🇻
How could I ever do that ;-)
They have something called Knulledag, please ask Martha the princess who can give more details!
Google can give more Informations, too ;-) Thanks for the insights ;-)
you must speak British to Norwegians. and we older ones we can only bad words in german and commandos
Thank you for your funny comment. It made me smile. Bad words and commandos are enough. With that you can manage all important things ;-)
@@nixwiewegnorwegen yes, Hitler managed alot here during the war.😢I dont think you understood the comment. Maybe since you are young you dont know our history. We , at least us older ones dont enjoy the german language that much and not so crazy about germans either. Of course now many nice germans and Germany is not the same, but it s really not that long ago and all our families here in Norway were affected alot and terribly by the war and a special commanding and yelling german. He wanted to take our country for some reason, even though we never did anything wrong to him and his friends.
He destroyed so much here and killed our family members. So excuse us for not beeing so crazy about your language. I learned it once.
Your assumption that the lower number of accidents in traffic is caused by: A: The small population of Norway vs Germany and B. There are fewer cars on the roads.
Sorry your assumption does not mach with reality and statistics.
Firstly: When compensating for the difference in numbers of population ....than Norway has much less accidents on the roads than in Germany.
Pr. 100000 inhabitants there are 2 fatalities in Norway vs. Germany 3,3 ....hence more than 60% higher.
Secondly: Norway has much higher rate of registered vehicles pr. inhabitants. Norway 1(person):1(vehicle) vs Ger,amu 1:0,6.
Hence the difference get even bigger. .....so there you go....
Okay. I understand point 1, but not point 2. Even of every Norwegian would have 3 cars registered, there would be still less cars on the road, because Norway is much bigger than Germany. It's something you can even feel in Germany. Everything is so full, of people, of cars... it's a huge difference if there are many people on a small area or less people on a big area. To compared it correctly we would have to compare the amount of cars per km². But I dont know that number.
@@nixwiewegnorwegen Point 2 is not as difficult as you imagine. It is not so that all vehicles in Germany or Norway are concentrated at one place. There are just many more cities in Germany than in Norway. You must compare apples with apples. Compare a city in Norway with 100000 inhabitants vs. a city in Germany with 100000 inhabitants. In my book is that equally many inhabitants...right.... Now take the number of registered vehicles. In the Norwegian city (with 1:1) there would be 100000 vehicles vs. the German city (with 1:0,6) where there would be only 60000 vehicles. Hence many more vehicles in the Norwegian city. Still the rate of fatalities are 2 (for those 100000 vehicles) in Norway vs. 3,3 (for 60000 vehicles) in Germany. This means that there are 1 fatality pr. 50000 vehicles in the Norwegian city vs. 1 fatality pr. 18200 vehicles in the German city. That is a massive difference ...where each vehicle in the Germany city carry a 175% higher risk for fatality than the Norwegian.
I must point out that included in the basis for the Norwegian statistical numbers are the conditions which the Norwegians are driving under (unlike what the Germans have ...mostly) with snow and ice in winter, narrower roads and lanes, mostly just one lane in each direction and with no separation to oncoming traffic, roads that serpentine through the landscape with short straight stretches for over-taking ...it has something to do with mountains in all directions..... This should all cause a much higher risk for fatalities in traffic ....and it does ....but still the end result for fatalities is much lower than in Germany. Aggressive driving is the major cause for fatalities in traffic...where ever you are... So the statistic gives you the answer for who is the most aggressive drivers....I guess it must be the Germans.....by far....
I see. You made a correlation between the aggressiveness of the drivers and the amount of accidents. But that's not what I meant in my video. I am talking about aggressiveness that doesn't have a direct impact on accidents. If you are driving a bit to slowly (with a trailer or a camper for example) we made the experience that they can come very near, harassing you with light and horn. When they Pass, then they sometimes use the horn too. That's agressive for me and a crime in Germany (called: "Nötigung") which can lead to the lost of your driving licence. It's not something you can measure with statistics.
Spooky enuff i am Norwegian and i am always early to any appointment so😎🇧🇻
And I am german and sometimes late 😉
WHAT? Not punctual? That is just bs. I don't reconize your description of not being punctual at all. Maybe you don't have an office job? Here in Oslo in a business setting there is only ONE TIME. Not 1 minute before and not 1 minute after. If you are late (for some reason) you better have a good eplanation ready. I carry this over to other aspects of life too. Once my physician was 10 minutes too late (due to his previous patient dragging out the time) and I demanded an explanation before carrying on with the business. If a plumber isn't at my place exactly on time then there will be no opening of the door and I'll get another plumber UNLESS he called ahead and told he was running late.
Thanks for the comment. Then maybe that's a difference between the area of Oslo and Bergen? Because my plumber and physicians are always 5 to 10 minutes late. Even the Taxi is always coming a bit to late.
I am not talking about my job, because I don't know. I have my own business and don't know the working habits here. I am talking about my private experience.
Pedantic much? 🤭
Nice video. You are probably right that we are more aggressive drivers than you in Germany. Not much is more annoying than ending up behind a motorhome that is constantly driving 30 km below the speed limit..LOL But that the footballer Erling Haaland is a typical symbol of beauty in Norway, that is unknown to me! must be because of his status and bank account... For me he is what we call, fucking close to downs
Ups... looks like I have been this kind of motor home driver. Sorry ;-)
But good to hear that it seems to be a misunderstanding with the beauty standard. I were really concerned ;-)
Sehr schlechte Kamera!
Das ist alles wie in Ostdeutschland , hier sind wir noch deutsch . Warum sollte ich 15 Minuten früher kommen ?😂man hat doch eine Uhr . Langsam Fahren ist auch asozial .
Warum warum ist die Banane krum?
Weil Frauen die Bananen haben, an krummen sich alleine laben ;-)
This video is too simplified. You have been lucky with the first people you met. The feelings you have when you have your first meeting is VERY demanding for your next impressions. Nordmenn kan være veldig forskjellige akkurat som alle andre mennesker, men god økonomi gjør noe med deg..Det ser ut som du bor i Øygarden kommune .
That's right. We live in Øygarden. It's not like I only met positive people. There are different people everywhere. But to sum it up we had mostly good experience in Norway
Altså, slik jeg ser det , er nordmenn fra vestkysten "litt britiske", mens øslendingene er mer Svenske. Sør svenskene tenker jeg er mer Tyske. Dette er jo logisk hentet direkte fra geografien. Jeg er usikker på hvor riktig dette blir..
Autofahren:du hast wohl noch deine deutsche Fahrweise drauf:Bremsen vor dem Tunnel und Fahren nach der Tachometeranzeige. Jeder sollte wissen, dass die Anzeige zu wenig anzeigt. Und bevor du mich beschuldigst Norwegen noch zu kennen, ich lebe hier seit 20Jahren! Die letzten 10 nördlich des Polarkreises.
Und ich lebe eben nicht am Polarkreis. Deswegen friere ich mir auch nicht den Arsch an der Bushaltestelle ab. Norwegen ist eben groß. Wenn Du schon seid 20 Jahres hier lebst, weißt Du das ja.
Ich weiß nicht wie Du darauf kommst, dass ich vor dem Tunnel bremsen würde und meinen Fahrstil kannst Du glaube ich grundsätzlich nicht kennen
Also, ich bitte um konstruktive Kommentare. Es tut mir Leid, wenn mein Video Dich irgendwie aggressiv gemacht hat. Das war nicht meine Absicht.
Nice video, starting to dont like german_tourists that comes to Norway, more and more comes and overfish over seas and takes much more fish over the border than allowed, risking losing species known to their habitat.
Hi. Thank you for your comment. I totally agree. In my Video "Don't do this in Norway" I also criticise that germans come here for camping and bringt really everything with them. They benefit from the Norwegian infrastructure while they are here so it would be fair to spent their money for food here even if its a bit more expensive.
@@nixwiewegnorwegen Verstanden sie? The best... THe best at vaccines, the best at being anti racist, but the best...
@@nixwiewegnorwegen germans owe us so much so they should surely spendxsome money here and stop complain about the prices. Guess many germans dont know the history, our history not long ago. OR they forgot. So they owe us houses, lands, lives, families, money, 5 years of lost freedom . So germans here on holidays should be humble, polite and friendly. And buy food here not bring their own from Germany. I have travelled alot, also in Germany several times , but never brought food from home. That s part of the fun about holidays, eating local food and drinks.
And better speak english. Did not understand so much of what you said, sorry.
Cause luckely that crazy german back then did not succeed in making our country german.
I agree. AND now (especially the german tourists) has started to come with overland campers to drive far into the nature which is totally forbidden but has until now (for the norwegians) been a matter of honor and a wish to preserve nature. Soon the open paths will be closed and camping / travel will be restricted because of these german "tourists" that arrive with camper-tanks to conquer the norwegian wilderness. I'm starting to think a tourist fee and a mandatory GPS tracker on RVs / camper vans / etc soon will be enforced.