@@JoacoG11well calamity ganon had the help of all the possessed guardians and the overtaken divine beasts, and then had 100 years to damage the entire kingdom, unlike our dear demon king who did it all in like a day
No one can tell me that this isnt the scariest version of Gannon we've had, considering that Gannons power was still able to attack and kill people despite being trapped, and suppressed by another great power and truly shows how big kf a threat he really is
No, it’s just shitty writing imo. You’re telling me that the piss stream of “power” that was leaking out of gannon DESTROYED hyrule and put link in a 100 year coma while Zelda “held him back” So Gannon unintentionally took over the world for 100 years while he himself was in a coma…. And now he’s about to wake up and immediately get clapped. Garbage
Calamity Ganon cannot be outshined in terms of ferocity and cruelty. It was on par with Fury Bowser (and I don’t even care about Bowser anymore). This Ganondorf felt like a complete stranger to the beast he is. He doesn’t recognize Link or Zelda when he reawakens.
@@asterthehedgehog6861 but he does recognize Link and Zelda, he literally calls them by their names in the beginning because he recognized Zelda thanks to the whole fact that she was sent to the past, and knows Link because Gannondorf was told that Link would wield the weapon that seals the Darkness
This Ganondorf must be one of the most evil characters in all of videogames. The Calamity, a being who haunted Hyrule for thousands of years, culminating in it killing the champions, almost killing Link and almost wiping out the entire kingdom, on top of being strong enough to form another physical body at the end of Botw made of its own malice, was just a mere projection of the evil and hatred leaking out from Ganondorf's body while he was unconscious. You can't get more evil than that.
Ganondorf is literally evil incarnate. He is evil in all its forms, from being a political manipulator, a deceptor, a thief, a tyrannical king, a beastly monster, a demon god, and a source of negative and malicious spiritual energy in the world. Think of anything evil, and he has probably been that in some form.
What if, when his seal was still "fresh", before hatred/malice started leaking out and forming Calamity Ganon, he was able to reincarnate again. If so, and the past scenes take place a few generations after Skyward Sword as I assume...then this could be the same universe as the other games and not a reboot as people thought. Hilariously, this means that at some points in history there could be TWO Ganondorf's, with the "living" one possibly not even aware of the other. But Ganondorf is a reincarnation of Demise, so I don't see why this isn't possible. Once the seal weakened enough to start causing the Calamity he probably stopped reincarnating. That does mean there was collective amnesia about Ganondorf (though it seems his name was never recorded, just the "demon king", so maybe the people in OoT weren't that naive after all. But if this is the case, BOTW could still be the "timeline convergence" since this Ganondorf would exist in ALL timelines, since this was before OoT. The only other possibility is that the Hyrule from the other games fell, and was then founded again with the Zonai helping.
I love this. To add to it, it makes sense that the last version of the calamity was more cognisant/smart enough to take over the Divine Beasts etc. because Ganondorf closer to being "awake' than he was the previous times
and the game also says somewhere (i think in ganondorf's character profile) that the damage that the calamity inflicted on the castle is what weakened the seal enough for ganondorf to break free
With the new context of Tears of the Kingdom, we see how powerful Calamity Ganon really was. It's a simple fraction of Ganondorf's power, leaking not only through one seal - that made by Rauru - but also, after the hundred year skip, being sealed away by the Goddess' powers through Zelda. The Guardians are still possessed, there's the Blood Moon, the manifestation of Malice that's physically damaging when you touch it...
ikr. genuinely spectacular moment there - i cant imagine how terrified hyrule's citizens must have been when they saw what looked like the calamity emerge again only to reveal something far worse.
I just kind of thought, Ganondorf is under the castle, no one knows he's there, he's in a kind of stasis, but every now and then he lets off this steam. It's like a kettle whistling.
The answer doesn't need a theory. Calamity Ganon is the mist coming from Ganondorf's chest. Ganondorf himself is Sealed and is completely unaware that his own evil manifested as a Phantom beast.
Moreso his inner spirit, think of it as his heartless or his shadowy other. On a interesting note his smoke like form is usually seen as a pig, but in reality it's a dragon
In Ganonforfs profile, it's stated that his power only started to return after the calamity 100 years ago. Seems more like it might actually be ganon split from Ganonforf somehow since ganon wasn't in totk
@@xscythe67 not his spirit. Ganondorf is way stronger in his base. Calamity is near strong to demise as stated by nintendo. Ganondorf is much stronger than calamity in his base from totk Ganondorf totk>demise ss. And i think unholyneptune is right.
0:49 I can’t be the only one who realized that the Mummified Corpse seen in the first trailer in 2019 was the source of Calamity Ganon. The Gloom pouring out (which we all thought was malice at the time) should have been a dead giveaway
King Rhoam in BotW actually refers to Calamity Ganon as the Demon King, and also hints that he was born into the Kingdom of Hyrule, like how Ganondorf was born into the Gerudo people. That’s what finally made me make the connection, after I started replaying BotW I came across that cutscene.
Only theory I can come up with is that the Calamity did not care if Ganondorf was sealed up or not. It was just his pent up malice for being sealed. Even if it had the objective to reincarnate, it was really just a mindless beast born from Dorfs power. I think that if it fully achieved its reincarnation, or due to the original Japanese text, it still would only be a mindless beast amalgamation of the original. I mean there is the representation of Beast Ganon as we see him as a pig/boar at most times of BotW until the boss fight. Edit: I did not do too much of a deep dive into this. I only tried to go off of everyones elses comments to come up with my own theory. If anyone has a better theory, I would like to hear it.
Well, we do see a fully-reincarnated Calamity Ganon in the Age of Calamity spin-off, which seemed to have at least some degree of intelligence even as Harbinger Ganon. But I do agree that Calamity Ganon would still be more bestial than Ganondorf due to being pure rage/malice incarnate.
@@gundamgamer7060But Calamity Ganon isn't completely mindless. It literally came up with the perfect plan by itself to destroy Hyrule Castle by taking over the Guardians and the Divine Beast, and creating smaller blight versions of itself to do what it tells them to do, showing that Calamity Ganon had some intelligence. It outsmarted everyone and brought Hyrule to its knees.
That makes so much sense too, in BOTW it was just a manifestation of his hatred so Malice just dealt damage, now Gloom is way stronger and causes damage that is harder to reverse
Yeah I work in a haunted house and I had to do that hunched-backward pose for 30 seconds one time and I was about ready to turn into a force of destruction manifested from pure malice just from that sooo
There's also a stone slab down in the foundations of Hyrule Castle, which you can find by going through the tunnel system from the Royal shelter in Lookout Landing, which states the castle itself is the thing keeping Ganondorf sealed away.
I looked at the Calmity Ganon we were seeing was the Demise curse manifesting in the only way it could since it was not allowed to reincarnate into a new body since Ganondorf was sealed below the castle and was thus still "that version of Demise's hatred." Basically that the Calmity Ganon was Demises hatred "leaking" from Ganondorf's body because it was being prevented from doing evil since Ganondorf was sealed. If that makes sense. Almost like the curse Demise cast was like a natural event that was being prevented from happening fully since Ganondorf, its current host, was neither dead or alive, and remined in that state for centuries, thus the curse was trapped in Ganondorf and not being allowed to do what it was supposed to do so the curse itself was manifesting in a semi-corporeal way as Calmity Ganon in a desperate attempt to escape and continue Demise's will, with or without Ganondorf himself.
Awesome video. I really liked it. I had the theory of Calamity Ganon being a manifestation of Ganondorf’s hatred, and I’m glad to see that it is confirmed to be the case.
I don’t think any Gannon is stronger than Demise himself considering demise was practically a god and every form after him was reborn human although they gained massive power. Skyward sword demise just isn’t able to to show off the feats that this Ganon does because I’m assuming due to how old the game is and Nintendo has gotten more creative and has better engines to run the game on.
There's a note in the secret passage between the bunker and the castle that mentions how Hyrule Castle is like a magical cork holding Ganon back. It makes sense why the damage from the Calamity might have weakened the protection and why lifting the castle is the first thing he does upon reawakening.
The compendium entree for Calamity Gannon in Breath of the Wild states how it was working on manifesting a physical form in the cocoon but Link cause it to leave to soon which is why it’s so deformed and cobbled together hastily. My take away from that and Tears of the Kingdom is that Gannondorf got tired of being imprisoned the way his was so he created the ethereal Calamity Gannon out of his hatred with the goal of creating a physical form to either free himself or just to use as a new vessel. A plan that Link interrupted
A guess is that Malladus could be the first Calamity. The sealed Ganons hatred in a new Hyrule. It seems like the sages follow through time in reincarnations as well as the cursed trinity of Link, Hylia and Demise. If thinking of a timeline that has collapsed back into one, Yuga might bee another one espescially when he combines with the sealed beast Ganon From Lttp. Three sealed or defeated Ganon(dorf)s in three timelines combines into a hatred big enough to create pure malice. The design of Ganondorf in Totk looks like an amalgamation of WW, TP and OoT to me.
Malladus is a separate entities entirely, the Lokomo’s and the Spirit War with Malladus happened before WW/PH Link and Tetra founded New Hyrule in the land where the Tower of Spirits was
I'm starting to wonder if it's a separate timeline altogether. Be rauru being the first king is hurting my head. Only way that part could be worked in is hylia was their daughter or something, and it would have to take place before skyward sword. Which would mean there were two ganondorfs floating around in oot. Alternatively, these two games could be sooo far in the future that Hyrule got refounded by rauru. The prior games taking place in a Hyrule that got destroyed.
@@thew00dsman79 I agree, otherwise it would be odd if Malladus was comming directly after Ganondorf, because between WW and PH were only a hundred years and the Legend told in the Beginning must have been a long time ago
When it comes the mural in Age of Calamity, I have a feeling it was just a stylistic representation of what was happening, not that the mural itself literally changed. Afterall, that same art style is used all over the game including the loading screens. I mean, in BotW, when you ask Impa to tell you about the Calamity and that famous cutscene plays, we're not supposed to actually believe the mural is changing real time. It's just a visual representation of the story.
This is the first video I've seen that acknowledges 10,000 years is the absolute bare minimum time between BotW and any other game. There was the calamity that takes place 100 years ago, one that took place 10,000 years ago, and presumably there was at least 1 more that prompted the creation of the Divine Beasts. There were likely more instances prior to that, and then probably a long initial period where calamity ganon was formed. It could easily be 100,000 years for sure.
Thank you so much for explaining this, I was smart enough to never even investigate the dragon tears until the literal last thing I did before beating the game so I didn't go back to talk to impa. Great vid man
I figured this out the instant I saw the trailer with the mummified Ganondorf. Also, the big battle with the Sheikah, princess, and hero vs LInk was 10,000 years ago. The founding of Hyrule and the sealing of Ganondorf was MUCH longer ago than that. I'm going to say a minimum of another 10,000 years, but it's hard to say, it could be like you said and even be 100,000 years, the timeframe is left deliberately vague. A lot of people think Zelda was sent back 10,000 years because of the murals. But the murals do not depict the same war that the mural in Kakariko about Calamity Ganon did, and that's where their confusion results. I had another thought too. What if...when Ganondorf's seal was much more recent, before it started leaking out Calamity Ganon, he could actually physically reincarnate. If this is the case, then the other games could've taken place in between, and there would've been 2 Ganondorf's at times, one sealed under the castle, one operating on the surface, probably unaware of the original. Ganondorf is a reincarnation of Demise after all. If this is true, this means that TOTK doesn't contradict/reboot the Zelda timeline after all. Since the past scenes are implied to be set not too long (probably a few generations) after Skyward Sword...this would mean that the original sealed Ganondorf exists in ALL timelines, and BOTW may be a "timeline convergence" after all.
Hopefully we get more info since in “original calamity” depicted in BOtW we see a Zonai hero standing up to the calamity but that would be impossible since Rauru and mineru were the last of the Zonai people and they died fighting Ganon, so who tf was that hero in the first place , they had to have had a child already since Zelda is direct descendant of rauru and Sonia
TOTK Ganondorf seemed powerful already, but the fact that he freed himself from Rauru's prison, on top of shattering the Master Sword means this iteration of Ganondorf might rival or even surpass Demise, the original Demon King. That's a scary thought.
Not even close. The Master Sword is tied to the strength of the wilder so when Ganondorf drained all of Link's he was able to destroy it easily. Despite the popular theory that Calamity Ganon is a manifestation of Ganondorf's hatred, it's simply not true. Calamity Ganon and Ganondorf are never once referred to as the same entity. Creating a Champion straight up tells us Calamity Ganon's origin story and it's when Ganondorf used the Triforce to transform into Dark Beast Ganon. His body slowly withered leaving the spectral form of Malice. Developer interviews and ancient myth basically confirm this. Calamity Ganon is already much more threatening than Ganondorf, but that's not even mentioning some other Ganons. ALttP Ganon had the full Triforce and was able to overthrow the kingdom from a different dimension, Wind Waker Ganondorf cast an endless night on the great sea and was so much of a threat that the Goddesses had to flood the world to stop him, Demise is a God who can create his own dimensions and his chaos also required divine intervention, Hyrule Hyrule Warriors Ganondorf can split the soul of a goddess in half while his os broken into several pieces, wipe out entire armies in seconds, beat Link and Zelda at the same time, and wage a war across time. He's not even close to the strongest Ganon.
@3:33 That's wrong.. this Ganondorf certainly did NOT come out of a 100 year slumber, he's been there since Hyrule's founding..and he hasn't woken up once.
Theory : Infinite years ago : goddess creates Tri-force 550k years ago : Fi meets the first Link (skyward sword) 500k years ago : The timeline spilits due to Ganon's destruction of Tri-force (Ocarina of time) Timeline 1 : OG Link is consoles Majora and hence hides the Mask ( Timeline 1) Timeline 2 : OG Link won but successor Link saw ganon is hiding in another dimension ( Twilight) Timeline 3 : Goddess upon anger flooded the hyrule (Wind waker) 10k years ago : All Timeline Joins Zonai descended from Twilight(Timeline 2 ), the depths are dried oceans (Timeline 3) and the Mask is hidden (Timeline 1) 9.9k years ago : Rauru seals Ganon which lost his power in the destruction of Tri-force (in Ocarina) 125 years ago : Divinebeasts were created to protect hyrule but Ganon's Malice took it 25 years ago : Final Link defeats Ganon's Malice 24 years ago : Link and Zelda finds the Ganon 0 years ago : Ganon got killed by Link I dont think there will be any Zelda game like botw or totk
That's my take too. Ganondorf is the man, Ganon is the spirit of Demise that embodies the power Ganondorf calls upon. Ganon is Ganondorf using the power Demise's curse gave him to create new forms to achieve his will. The series outright implies that Ganondorf is not Ganon in multiple entries across the franchise. Phantom Ganon isn't Ganondorf, merely a projection of Ganon away from Ganondorf's own body. The Blight Ganons we fight in the Divine Beasts aren't the main one in the castle nor Ganondorf under it, but rather yet another projection of his power in different forms. This means BotW Link faces at *least* seven different Ganon forms across the two games: Windblight, Waterblight, Fireblight, Thunderblight, Calamity, Dark Beast, and Phantom, all before facing the actual Ganondorf himself. Every one of those others are a legitimate Ganon, but none are the man at the center of it all, merely different manifestations of his power that came from Demise's curse.
In before the "It ain't that deep" comments but maybe the AoC devs were a bit more clued in than you're giving them credit for. -After Calamity Ganon is defeated, the gloom began to spread, AoC having this happen 100 years earlier may have had the same effect. -We could then assume the intro of ToTK could play out the same, with Zelda getting sent back to the past. -Zelda being in the past, telling the story of the forthcoming calamity is very likely what the sheikah based their mural off of all those years ago. (I have somewhat of a theory that Mineru would go onto start the sheikah after the Imprisoning War) So technically, yes. Since the mural was in Zelda's future in the timeline of events, it could have been changed given that the past was changed. Just a theory though. 👀
When you complete all of the shrines you are rewarded with an ancient hero outfit, this outfit looks very similar to the one in the mural (green body, red hair)
I don't believe that this Ganon was aware, consciously, during the time he was imprisoned underneath Hyrule Castle. It all leaked out of him instead, minus most of his mind. He's not aware of time's passage; for him it was the blink of an eye. He's also unaware of Calamity Ganon. ("Gee, strange that Hyrule's already a wreck...oh well, time to regain my strength!")
Ganondorf was sealed when Hyrule kingdom was first founded. 10 000 years ago Hyrule was already a prosperous kingdom and sheikah monks developed their technology then Calamity Ganon appeared.
It really makes you wonder where this game fits into the rest of the Zelda timeline. If king rauru was hyrule's first king, then Ganondorf was sealed away before the events of ocarina. But honestly, I don't think Nintendo cares about continuity as much as making a fun game, and I can respect that.
I think it’s also important to compare how similar Calamity Ganon’s form that circles Hyrule Castle is to the early stages of the Demon Dragon, Ganondorf’s final form. A form where he gives up everything to destroy Link. As the dragon is said to be mindless, Calamity Ganon is also mindless, but both are the embodiment of Ganondorf’s hatred. Since Zonai Secret Stones enhance the user’s power, and Ganondorf had his the entire time he was imprisoned, perhaps that is how Calamity Ganon was formed, as Rauru’s seal began to grow weaker. Ganondorf might’ve even revived much earlier, if it weren’t for Zelda using her light powers to seal Calamity Ganon for those 100 years.
1:40 I understand what the tweets are saying, but what's the connection to TotK? That Zelda, like Terrako, was sent back in time but so far back to where it all started and yet, unlike the writing mistake in AoC, Zelda's time travel was technically preordained and thus the time travel technically changed nothing aka everything went according to fate?
Thank you for the great explanation! Also, note that Zelda and Link did not show up “at the worst possible time.” As the strength of the seal weakened, Rauru had been holding out until Zelda and Link showed up. As they arrived, Rauru “let go.” In this act, he passed his stone to Zelda, so she could begin her journey to the past, where she would be safe.
Because trying to remove it would potentially break the seal what would happen if they tried broke the seal then rauru sacrificed himself for nothing and Ganondorf destroys hyrule they knew its better to not take the chance and wait for link to appear with the mastersword and the future sages
When you use the royal hidden passage from lookout landing to Hyrule castle you find a stone tablet at the end saying that the castle itself was sealing the demon king away.
Canon or no, I like to think Calamity Ganon is the closest to Phantom Ganon without being directly called that Yes, i know Phantom Ganon is on TOTK, but the idea of Ganondorf's hatret and even "puppet" to try to revive itself and break the seal makes me think that it is what the Developers intended Hell, on the Official Artwork book, the Blights are called "The Phantom Ganons"
interestingly, the bosses in tears of the kingdom explode in the exact same way as calamity ganon did in botw. Sure, reused asset and all, but they could've used a different explosion instead. all the bosses as well as calamity ganon served as distractions while the real ganon was building power.
@@rghennig1 not exactly a mistranslation. Phantom Ganon is literally romanized ファントム(fantuum) while the blights are named "カース"(Kāsu) which means curse. Yes, they later call them "Phantom Ganons" on the artwork book, but it being a mistranslation doesnt seem really the case here
I like that Ganon is back and all, but I have to say... I liked it more when I was able to imagine that Calamity Ganon was Ganon's final form after having completely lost his mind and had his physical body disintegrating completely from the everlasting hold that the triforce of power had over him. I always imagined Calamity Ganon in BOTW as the last remnants of Ganon being eternally sustained in essence but not in form, making him eventually go insane after thousands of years of being reincarnated over and over again until finally, all that remained was his intangible hatred and rage; a mindless spiritual being trapped for all time in the world without ever being able to move on. Like, it was so poetic as I imagined that his desire for power had become his curse, as the triforce of power literally would not allow him to die; even as his reincarnations were all but spent and he would go on to become nothing but ethereal torrents of resurging hatred (Calamity Ganon).
Wait...let me see if I understand this: Calamity Ganon, a very powerful being that corrupted the all almighty Divine Beasts, killed the champions, almost killed Link, and was in a 100 year battle with Zelda...was just a fraction of the real Ganondorf's power??? 😮 Who was sealed all this time by Rauru??? 😱 Damm, he really must've been tired of losing every time against the Hero and the Princess/Goddess. What a monster, such power!
Calamity Ganon is actually Puppet Ganon, made up of the cooled, coagulated Gloom (aka Malice) that had been slowly leaking out of Ganondorf for 10,000 years. If you've ever played Wind Waker, then you should be familiar with the 3 Forms of Puppet Ganon (i.e. the Boar, the Spider, and the Snake...with the cranium of the Boar).
The question burning in my mind is "When are TotK's distant past cinematic scenes set? In which era? A hundred years after Skyward Sword? Is the Ganondorf in TotK the same Ganondorf we see in OoT and TP? If so, how?
He is not the same Ganondorf, mainly because Botw+Totk is most likely a reboot of the timeline/a new timeline. Even so, if it somehow is connected, Totk Ganondorf would have to exist long after all the old games, because Ganondorf in OoT completely destroyed Hyrule castle and built his own castle, which would have broken Totk Ganondorf free. Also, a new gerudo male can only be born once the old one dies, but Totk Ganondorf is alive when sealed.
yeah not sure if it was explained in botw or not since its been 6 years since i played it but among me and my friends i already made the theory that calamity was ganons hated taking form since ganon himself is acording to zelda lore demise hatred reicarneted
Calamity Ganon was just a manifestation of Demise's curse, Ganondorfs's malice was the best vessel since there wasn't any other male gerudo or people trying to revive ganon
Yeah, Breath of the Wild basically moved the entire timeline forwards vastly into the future compared to the other entries. The games are often thousands of years apart, which makes it a truly mind boggling time between the first Link in Skyward Sword and the current one in Breath of the Wild/Tears of the Kingdom.
1:45 The mural in Age of Calamity wasn't supposed to "replace" the one from 10,000 years ago. It was depicting the events of Age of Calamity in the far future because the Hyrule army actually defeated Ganom this time around. How do people not understand this?
The Calamity is an extension of Ganondorf, but not Ganondorf himself . He's not sentient or aware through it, it just acts like a mindless force of destruction that subconciously does Ganondorf's will - such as taking over the guardians, destroying Hyrule castle, and trying to make a new body for himself.
To be totally honest I severely doubt they had a timeline in mind with how totk fits in with the other Zelda games besides botw. Even the old timeline was a barely cannon "this is what a timeline could look like" sort of a thing. If you really want to make it work the best explanation is probably that the Hyrule seen in oot (and the rest of the series) fell before a new Hyrule was "founded" by Raru. Meaning every other ganondorf in the series (however many you consider that to be) happened before totk ganondorf was sealed under the castle.
Just Got a few questions though 1. Is Calamity Ganon independent of Ganondof though I just thought Calamity Ganon and all other Ganons were controlled by Ganondorf underground like puppets? 2. Apparently it says that Ganon tried to take over Hyrule in his Calamity state that’s wrong isn’t it wouldn’t it make more sense to try and reincarnate a body first?
Sorry, what was the bit about there being no more Gerudo males? I didn't quite get that bit. I do know that there is meant to be one every hundred years but I still don't get why we haven't seen any.
My question is the connection between Demise and Ganondorf, because Zelda’s dialogue in the final boss of BOTW reads to me that Ganon is the fragment of Demise reborn time and time again and is/has separated from Ganondorf. As we know the Secret Stones only enhance pre-existing powers the person has so all it does for Ganondorf is awaken Demise within him, causing the transformation and letting him create monsters. We can tell this sort of from how he doesn’t use any magic: no electric tennis phase to his fight, only Gloom and weapon to weapon combat. This Ganondorf is just a man with the fragment of demise within him, awoken by the secret stone. Just like how Zelda’s inherited time powers are awoken, separately from inheriting the Triforce. Regardless, I assume the damage done to the castle during the calamity refers to when the Divine Beasts blast Calamity Ganon all together because that blast is funnelled directly into a chamber beneath the castle, probably not too far from the chamber Ganondorf is in, and that blast is likely what undid the seal. Or possibly the sudden unexplained disappearance of all the Sheikah tech(?) like those massive pillars under the castle, which probably caused cave ins/opened the ways to the depths. Sorry if there is an explanation somewhere in the game, currently after beating the main story I haven’t found one yet.
And what is the role of the Ancient Hero? I need more lore of that character, like who was they, what was they a zonaii? Why they are using the master sword
My theory: Since Rauru sealed Ganondorf by draining his power, his malice escapes through this “drainage” and arises as the Calamity Ganon we know from the events of BOTW. So not only was Rauru’s sealing method not enough to contain Ganondorf, but it inadvertently allowed him to roam and destroy Hyrule as the Calamity.
This still doesn’t really makes sense to why there is no other male Gerudo in BOTW or TOTK. Unless we’re treating it like some sort of Avatar situation, that there could only be one male Gerudo at a time, which is never stated. And based on just timeline stuff, and I could be way off, it seems as TOTK Ganondorf is the earliest Ganondorf in the series, and would have existed at the bottom of Hyrule castle during OOT/TP Ganondorf events. So the one male Gerudo at a time doesn’t really make sense to me. But idk.
Gerudo women often sought out men from nearby societies (such as hyrule) seeing as they exclusively gave birth to women until it was once again time for a singular gerudo male to be born. This occurred once every 100 years or so. And only one male gerudo lives at a time, hence the absence of a male gerudo in BotW/TotK since ganondorf is still 'alive' despite having been born many thousands of years ago. So while I do not know where on the timeline BotW/TotK would be placed, I think we can safely assume that any overlap with another game that has an incarnation of ganondorf in it can be ruled out. _"A kid like you may not know this, but the Gerudo race consists only of women. Only one man is born every hundred years..."_ -Nabooru, OoT
@@Martial_Autist I hear what you’re saying. But assuming TOTK Ganondorf is at the bottom of Hyrule Castle during the events of all the other games further down the timeline, then more than one Ganondorf is existing/living at the same time, since TOTK Ganondorf was not killed. But this is just me theorizing that The Hyrule founded in TOTK/BOTW is the same Hyrule as the other games and not a brand new one founded after the events of like twilight princess or something.
Now I am curious on how much they had envisioned about a sequel when developing BOTW. Like not having an actual Ganondorf as a villain but a manifestation of him to then beat the real one on a later game sounds premeditated. And now how much they have already envisioned to future games.
Spoiler Allert: After Link helped the new sages to awake, you can confront the Fake Zelda in Hyrule Castle, in the throne room Ganondorf speaks to Link through this Fake Zelda. And "She" said two interesting lines after "she" restored the throneroom to its former glory: "Does it awaken memories? Memories of our time here?" This implies that, while Ganondorf was sealed and while Calamity Ganon went rampage, Ganondorf kinda had Calamity Ganon under his control - or maybe he even was Calamity Ganon, maybe his spirit managed to Escape his sealed body but he tried to recreate himself a new one Because he couldnt reincarnate into another human body.
Wait… so this means that Ganon or the demon king was underneath hyrule castle during ocarina of time, twilight princess and pretty much every other Zelda game? So there’s technically two ganons at the same time multiple times throughout the game? Why when link was an adult in ocarina of time did the TOTK Gannon not get freed by the OOT gannondorf?
Nice video! Tears of the Kingdom is a game i haven't tried yet, but would be trying it soon By the way, have you tried watching Monkie Kid yet? And I'm definitely screenshotting the skeleton pfp before it goes away.
I think the tapestry from AoC was supposed to be representing 100 years ago, not the one for 10,000 years ago. Those figures are literally the champions and champion descendents, its a remaking of the tapestry for their modern time
I just believed that Ganondorf knew people would want him to be stopped, so he created a calamity to keep the world his, and if calamity died, he’d make an appearance
No matter what I do, Impa is not at her house. I completed the dragon tear quest, I talked to her after doing the forgotten temple stuff, and she is nowhere 😭
You’ve got to finish everything else as well. All the main quests except for two (you’ll know which two), and only after that’s finished will Impa appear in Kakariko village
The confusing part for me is how is Ganondorf in OoT if he was sealed by the first king of Hyrule, which implies it's before OoT since Zelda father isn't the first king in that game.
The whole "founding of Hyrule" thing needed some more clarification I think. I think Hyrule fell and then was refounded by Rauru and the Zonai, although Nintendo should have clarified this. Perhaps through item descriptions for the old hero armor "this armor was worn by the hero of a long gone kingdom" or something coulda worked
@@crustbound My personal theory is that the old Hyrule kingdom was somehow destroyed to a point people took refuge to the Depth and that is why we see so many traces of civilisation down there, an then they went back to the surface with Zonai guiding them. That could also explain the look of Hylians which would have evolved longer ears to adapt to their new dark environment (like Sonia), and that trait slowly disapeared again when they went back to the surface.
@@moggtow I think that so many cycles of rebirth happened that ultimately Old Hyrule was destroyed by them and while Ganon was defeated i think that it caused so much collateral damage that in the end Ganon won the war.
The current head cannon in the Zelda community is that sometime after the end of the timeline the original Hyrule collapsed and was forgotten. Only for the ancient heroes that saved the land of Hyrule to be remembered as myths.
@@denstsunogemaandrewvelasco8339 I wonder if the merging of the timelines was the catalyst for this reset, i can imagine three separate timelines with their own history just suddenly merging would cause an unholy amount of destruction and it would absolutely destroy Hyrule itself.
Welp the age of calamity timeline is gonna have their hands full with Revali Daruk and Urbosa dying of old age before Ganondorf comes back. That is unless Purah makes the reverse aging rune work on everyone which in that case they’ve probably got a better shot that the TOTK cast of characters
This explains why ganon keeps coming back in the previous zelda games (oot, twilight...etc) and why he always have hatred, because the real him was sealed under the castle (Also i always thought Zelda built Hyrule). This is what i think of the story line, Demise (skyward sword) was sealed by Hylia(Zelda) for a long time, finally got out then was immediatly killed by link, then rebirth as Ganon then got sealed again by king Rauru, thats why he got alot of hatred, while he was sealed he hatred takes form of calamity ganon trying to destory hyrule to free himself but failed every time (oot, twilight...etc), and finally succeed in botw, then we faced the real him in totk.
What is interesting is that this means Ganondorf is a common name given to Gerudo males so it is just a coincidene that the original Ganondorf from the Imprisoning War and the more recent Ganondorf from OoT share the same name. It also shows that males continue to be born to the tribe but their position as king is determined by the sociopolitical circumstances of the Gerudo at the time. Consequently when you do see the rare red-haired males in Hyrule it means they do have Gerudo heritage.
@@armzngunz Why do you think it would be impossible to have a Gerudo king born who is given the name Ganondorf? Zelda is a legacy name passed down through the Hylian royal family afterall.
@@KryyssTV A new gerudo male is born once every 100 years, but that only works once the old male has died. Totk Ganondorf is not dead, so no new male can be born. This is proven by the fact that there haven't been any new ones, none is seen in Botw or Totk. In the book "Creating a Champion" it is said: "According to Gerudo records there has not been another male Gerudo leader since the king who became the Calamity." So if there is a 3rd game in the same Botw-universe, we may see a new gerudo male. Even so, if there could be another gerudo male, if OoT Ganondorf came after Totk Ganondorf was sealed, that would not work, because OoT Ganondorf destroyed Hyrule castle, which would have set Totk Ganondorf free.
@@armzngunz Not once has any of the games stated that the previous male must be dead for a new one to be born and even the Creating a Champin said there has been no Gerudo male who became their leader not that none were born. Never. In fact the simple existance of Ganondorf the First from the pre-Hyrulean era and Ganondorf the Second in OoT proves that no such rule exists. In the TotK memories, Rauru even states that a male is only born every 100 years meaning the death of the previous male is not a requirement for the next to be born.
@@KryyssTV "Not once has any of the games stated that the previous male must be dead for a new one to be born" Whats more important is that there's never been one shown in the games themselves. They specifically said in the Totk memories that a gerudo male is born every 100 years. This is practically non-existant in Botw and Totk present, it's not mentioned at all. The gerudo are at that point only known as an all-female race. Speculating that there may be some off-screen is pointless, especially considering the "one male every 100 years" probably is caused by magic or something, so it'd make sense there wouldn't be any gerudo males if Ganondorf is still alive. " In fact the simple existance of Ganondorf the First from the pre-Hyrulean era and Ganondorf the Second in OoT proves that no such rule exists" This assumes that OoT is in the same timeline as Totk, or that Totk memories happen before OoT, which is far from certain, so I'm not even going to entertain that idea for obvious reasons.
is it really ever confirmed that there was no gerudo male, or another ganondorf existing at the same time? personally i think this story takes place over the entire series, with rauru and the imprisoning war happening some time just after skyward sword and while there would have been 2 ganondorfs PHYSICALLY during oot and the timeline split totk ganondorf would have essentially been dead because of the magic sealing him however after all of the main zelda stuff the curse of demise would have no other choice but to push totk ganondorf towards reviving weakening the binding magic enough for the calamities to start and eventually causing enough damage to free totk ganondorf
The final boss of Botw is Calamity Ganon in a new unfinished body. No matter if you believe that Calamity and Totk Ganondorf are the same, we still see 2 Ganons at the same time. One being the Calamity and other being trapped under the castle.
@@crustbound yes as stated in your vid and both botw and totk its just the hatred and malice that totk ganondorf has manifesting into what we see in botw
for clarification i said 2 ganondorfs as in the gerudo not referring to the calamity as that was simply the hate and malice that totk ganondorf had incarnated. i meant that because the sealing magic on totk ganondorf was still in good effect he was essentially dead during ocarina of time hence why the curse of demise took to a new ganondorf which was the one in ocarina of time, and only after the events of the main zelda timeline was the curse of demise forced to use totk ganondorf again starting by loosening the seal just enough for the calamities to start which would eventually free totk ganondorf... also sidenote and completely unrelated but i am very disappointed that totk ganondorf usedaclub instead of the big doriya sword
Not sure if anyone commented about this, but something that I’ve always been confused about is how Ganondorf has been sealed away when *Hyrule was founded*. If this is the case, and only one ganondorf can exist at a time, how does the other ganondorfs from other games exist? Wouldn’t those Ganons conflict with the (living) Ganon temporarily sealed under the castle?
Either more than one Ganondorf can exist, with OoT Ganondorf existing while TOTK Ganondork was chilling beneath hyrule castle (weird given that castle also was lifted but whatever) or the "founding" of Hyrule we see in TOTK is actually a "refounding", a looooot of time after the past games.
To think, Zelda gave everything she had to hold back Calamity Ganon for 100 years, and that was basically just the excess evil that was leaking from Rauru's seal.
To be fair, we don't know if calamity Ganon always takes 10.000 years to resurrect, it is perfectly possible that the reason it spent so long between the great calamity and botw was to gather enough power to take over the sheikah tech, in fact, that would explain why it becomes so powerful as dark beast Ganon
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Calamity ganon is when ganondorf farted and his gas waged war with hyrule
"you smell like you farded"
His fart did a better work at destroying Hyrule than Ganondorf
@@JoacoG11well calamity ganon had the help of all the possessed guardians and the overtaken divine beasts, and then had 100 years to damage the entire kingdom, unlike our dear demon king who did it all in like a day
@@sleepyrosebud9504 Capturing everything in a day is very impressive as well. Faster than any other Ganondorf appearance.
A 100,000 year old fart!
The calamity is basically a more powerful and destrutive Phantom Ganon.
Exactly!
Or better yet a phantom Gannon set loose without a leash.
@@nickcampbell6387 ill bark for him
phantom beast ganon?
@@rubub8455 im sorry what
No one can tell me that this isnt the scariest version of Gannon we've had, considering that Gannons power was still able to attack and kill people despite being trapped, and suppressed by another great power and truly shows how big kf a threat he really is
No, it’s just shitty writing imo.
You’re telling me that the piss stream of “power” that was leaking out of gannon DESTROYED hyrule and put link in a 100 year coma while Zelda “held him back”
So Gannon unintentionally took over the world for 100 years while he himself was in a coma…. And now he’s about to wake up and immediately get clapped. Garbage
And he has a troll face rivalling jetstream sam's
Calamity Ganon cannot be outshined in terms of ferocity and cruelty. It was on par with Fury Bowser (and I don’t even care about Bowser anymore).
This Ganondorf felt like a complete stranger to the beast he is. He doesn’t recognize Link or Zelda when he reawakens.
@@asterthehedgehog6861 but he does recognize Link and Zelda, he literally calls them by their names in the beginning because he recognized Zelda thanks to the whole fact that she was sent to the past, and knows Link because Gannondorf was told that Link would wield the weapon that seals the Darkness
@@Cosmik60 that he made after murdering someone by breaking their back. the dude is savage
This Ganondorf must be one of the most evil characters in all of videogames. The Calamity, a being who haunted Hyrule for thousands of years, culminating in it killing the champions, almost killing Link and almost wiping out the entire kingdom, on top of being strong enough to form another physical body at the end of Botw made of its own malice, was just a mere projection of the evil and hatred leaking out from Ganondorf's body while he was unconscious. You can't get more evil than that.
Ganondorf is literally evil incarnate. He is evil in all its forms, from being a political manipulator, a deceptor, a thief, a tyrannical king, a beastly monster, a demon god, and a source of negative and malicious spiritual energy in the world. Think of anything evil, and he has probably been that in some form.
@@Crichjo32 what about a child predator
@@naturalLog26 In TWW he was looking over child Zelda in a bed at the end, that was a bit creepy and predatory
@@Crichjo32 that’s a good point actually
What if, when his seal was still "fresh", before hatred/malice started leaking out and forming Calamity Ganon, he was able to reincarnate again. If so, and the past scenes take place a few generations after Skyward Sword as I assume...then this could be the same universe as the other games and not a reboot as people thought. Hilariously, this means that at some points in history there could be TWO Ganondorf's, with the "living" one possibly not even aware of the other. But Ganondorf is a reincarnation of Demise, so I don't see why this isn't possible. Once the seal weakened enough to start causing the Calamity he probably stopped reincarnating. That does mean there was collective amnesia about Ganondorf (though it seems his name was never recorded, just the "demon king", so maybe the people in OoT weren't that naive after all. But if this is the case, BOTW could still be the "timeline convergence" since this Ganondorf would exist in ALL timelines, since this was before OoT.
The only other possibility is that the Hyrule from the other games fell, and was then founded again with the Zonai helping.
I love this. To add to it, it makes sense that the last version of the calamity was more cognisant/smart enough to take over the Divine Beasts etc. because Ganondorf closer to being "awake' than he was the previous times
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it was almost like the calamity was a puppet
@@garsrandom4358 it is a puppet just like phantom Ganon's
Also the blood Moon's were more frequent because his revival was close
Another thing with the seal. In Hyrule Castle there’s writing on a stone saying that the castle was built to protect the seal on Ganon.
No way.
where?
Near the start of the secret royal passage
and the game also says somewhere (i think in ganondorf's character profile) that the damage that the calamity inflicted on the castle is what weakened the seal enough for ganondorf to break free
That mean rauru sealed Gabon before minish cap and the first calamity was probably after a few decades, but still before minish cap
With the new context of Tears of the Kingdom, we see how powerful Calamity Ganon really was.
It's a simple fraction of Ganondorf's power, leaking not only through one seal - that made by Rauru - but also, after the hundred year skip, being sealed away by the Goddess' powers through Zelda. The Guardians are still possessed, there's the Blood Moon, the manifestation of Malice that's physically damaging when you touch it...
I love the parallel to calamity Ganon before the final battle
ikr. genuinely spectacular moment there - i cant imagine how terrified hyrule's citizens must have been when they saw what looked like the calamity emerge again only to reveal something far worse.
@@crustbound I never screamed that loud because of a game because it was exactly what I thougt would happen
There are an insane number of references to old games 😄
I just kind of thought, Ganondorf is under the castle, no one knows he's there, he's in a kind of stasis, but every now and then he lets off this steam. It's like a kettle whistling.
The answer doesn't need a theory. Calamity Ganon is the mist coming from Ganondorf's chest. Ganondorf himself is Sealed and is completely unaware that his own evil manifested as a Phantom beast.
Moreso his inner spirit, think of it as his heartless or his shadowy other. On a interesting note his smoke like form is usually seen as a pig, but in reality it's a dragon
In Ganonforfs profile, it's stated that his power only started to return after the calamity 100 years ago. Seems more like it might actually be ganon split from Ganonforf somehow since ganon wasn't in totk
@@xscythe67 not his spirit. Ganondorf is way stronger in his base. Calamity is near strong to demise as stated by nintendo.
Ganondorf is much stronger than calamity in his base from totk
Ganondorf totk>demise ss.
And i think unholyneptune is right.
But Ganondorf's chest leaks Gloom, not Malice, that's the problem
@@adamH.1 IMO Malice is an offshoot of Gloom, but less powerful because the seal is still intact.
0:49 I can’t be the only one who realized that the Mummified Corpse seen in the first trailer in 2019 was the source of Calamity Ganon. The Gloom pouring out (which we all thought was malice at the time) should have been a dead giveaway
has been a very popular theory for a looong time
its true@@crustbound
Ganon is the Eye of Sauron.
“He cannot yet take physical form but his spirit has lost nine of its potency.”
lol, he lost 9 potency? how many potency does he have left?
King Rhoam in BotW actually refers to Calamity Ganon as the Demon King, and also hints that he was born into the Kingdom of Hyrule, like how Ganondorf was born into the Gerudo people. That’s what finally made me make the connection, after I started replaying BotW I came across that cutscene.
Only theory I can come up with is that the Calamity did not care if Ganondorf was sealed up or not. It was just his pent up malice for being sealed. Even if it had the objective to reincarnate, it was really just a mindless beast born from Dorfs power. I think that if it fully achieved its reincarnation, or due to the original Japanese text, it still would only be a mindless beast amalgamation of the original. I mean there is the representation of Beast Ganon as we see him as a pig/boar at most times of BotW until the boss fight. Edit: I did not do too much of a deep dive into this. I only tried to go off of everyones elses comments to come up with my own theory. If anyone has a better theory, I would like to hear it.
Well, we do see a fully-reincarnated Calamity Ganon in the Age of Calamity spin-off, which seemed to have at least some degree of intelligence even as Harbinger Ganon. But I do agree that Calamity Ganon would still be more bestial than Ganondorf due to being pure rage/malice incarnate.
@@gundamgamer7060But Calamity Ganon isn't completely mindless. It literally came up with the perfect plan by itself to destroy Hyrule Castle by taking over the Guardians and the Divine Beast, and creating smaller blight versions of itself to do what it tells them to do, showing that Calamity Ganon had some intelligence. It outsmarted everyone and brought Hyrule to its knees.
That makes so much sense too, in BOTW it was just a manifestation of his hatred so Malice just dealt damage, now Gloom is way stronger and causes damage that is harder to reverse
Makes sense that secondhand malice would pale in comparison to the original hate.
Cool, so it was basically the main theory I believed but with some other things thrown in there. Great video, the editing was really good!
"Hunched over and in constant agony". Everyone would become a calamity with 100k years of back pain.
Yeah I work in a haunted house and I had to do that hunched-backward pose for 30 seconds one time and I was about ready to turn into a force of destruction manifested from pure malice just from that sooo
Calamity Ganon is what you get when you don't dispose of your Ganon properly.
There's also a stone slab down in the foundations of Hyrule Castle, which you can find by going through the tunnel system from the Royal shelter in Lookout Landing, which states the castle itself is the thing keeping Ganondorf sealed away.
I looked at the Calmity Ganon we were seeing was the Demise curse manifesting in the only way it could since it was not allowed to reincarnate into a new body since Ganondorf was sealed below the castle and was thus still "that version of Demise's hatred." Basically that the Calmity Ganon was Demises hatred "leaking" from Ganondorf's body because it was being prevented from doing evil since Ganondorf was sealed. If that makes sense. Almost like the curse Demise cast was like a natural event that was being prevented from happening fully since Ganondorf, its current host, was neither dead or alive, and remined in that state for centuries, thus the curse was trapped in Ganondorf and not being allowed to do what it was supposed to do so the curse itself was manifesting in a semi-corporeal way as Calmity Ganon in a desperate attempt to escape and continue Demise's will, with or without Ganondorf himself.
Ganondorf was denied death so his hatred and malice grew gradually, which took different forms over time.
Awesome video. I really liked it. I had the theory of Calamity Ganon being a manifestation of Ganondorf’s hatred, and I’m glad to see that it is confirmed to be the case.
It was so clear It was that.
This was a solid video, you definitely deserve more subscribers
ty :)
The tears/wild Gannon is by far the strongest Gannon he devastated hyrule while being completely trapped
I don’t think any Gannon is stronger than Demise himself considering demise was practically a god and every form after him was reborn human although they gained massive power. Skyward sword demise just isn’t able to to show off the feats that this Ganon does because I’m assuming due to how old the game is and Nintendo has gotten more creative and has better engines to run the game on.
Demise forced a an eternal curse on gods and forced them to leave their civilization behind and have reincarnates to watch over him throughout time.
Nah I say alttp Ganon is the strongest, he has the full Triforce
He does seem to be the one who got closest to the true power of Demise
There's a note in the secret passage between the bunker and the castle that mentions how Hyrule Castle is like a magical cork holding Ganon back. It makes sense why the damage from the Calamity might have weakened the protection and why lifting the castle is the first thing he does upon reawakening.
Kids: eh the Calamity’s a myth
Link: *ptsd*
I was amazed that ganondorf is the only enemy which can use link's attacks like parry and furry rush
The part about the seal weakling can also be found under the Castle. There’s a tunnel under Lookout that leads to that part of the castle
The compendium entree for Calamity Gannon in Breath of the Wild states how it was working on manifesting a physical form in the cocoon but Link cause it to leave to soon which is why it’s so deformed and cobbled together hastily. My take away from that and Tears of the Kingdom is that Gannondorf got tired of being imprisoned the way his was so he created the ethereal Calamity Gannon out of his hatred with the goal of creating a physical form to either free himself or just to use as a new vessel. A plan that Link interrupted
Imagine being so absurdly powerful that you not only managed to circumvent Rauru's seal but Zelda's too....
I don't think ganondorf was conscious at all during his imprisonment. Rauru did say it would pass in the blink of an eye for them
A guess is that Malladus could be the first Calamity. The sealed Ganons hatred in a new Hyrule. It seems like the sages follow through time in reincarnations as well as the cursed trinity of Link, Hylia and Demise. If thinking of a timeline that has collapsed back into one, Yuga might bee another one espescially when he combines with the sealed beast Ganon From Lttp. Three sealed or defeated Ganon(dorf)s in three timelines combines into a hatred big enough to create pure malice. The design of Ganondorf in Totk looks like an amalgamation of WW, TP and OoT to me.
Malladus is a separate entities entirely, the Lokomo’s and the Spirit War with Malladus happened before WW/PH Link and Tetra founded New Hyrule in the land where the Tower of Spirits was
Another merged timeline theory, shame
I'm starting to wonder if it's a separate timeline altogether. Be rauru being the first king is hurting my head. Only way that part could be worked in is hylia was their daughter or something, and it would have to take place before skyward sword.
Which would mean there were two ganondorfs floating around in oot.
Alternatively, these two games could be sooo far in the future that Hyrule got refounded by rauru. The prior games taking place in a Hyrule that got destroyed.
@@killiancraftofcraftyworks975 you are aware that Hyrule was first founded long after Skyward sword right ?
@@thew00dsman79
I agree, otherwise it would be odd if Malladus was comming directly after Ganondorf, because between WW and PH were only a hundred years and the Legend told in the Beginning must have been a long time ago
thanks so much for explaining this. this was something I was wondering for a while
When it comes the mural in Age of Calamity, I have a feeling it was just a stylistic representation of what was happening, not that the mural itself literally changed. Afterall, that same art style is used all over the game including the loading screens. I mean, in BotW, when you ask Impa to tell you about the Calamity and that famous cutscene plays, we're not supposed to actually believe the mural is changing real time. It's just a visual representation of the story.
This is the first video I've seen that acknowledges 10,000 years is the absolute bare minimum time between BotW and any other game. There was the calamity that takes place 100 years ago, one that took place 10,000 years ago, and presumably there was at least 1 more that prompted the creation of the Divine Beasts. There were likely more instances prior to that, and then probably a long initial period where calamity ganon was formed. It could easily be 100,000 years for sure.
one of the best totk vids i have seen so far ong
ty!
Thank you so much for explaining this, I was smart enough to never even investigate the dragon tears until the literal last thing I did before beating the game so I didn't go back to talk to impa. Great vid man
I figured this out the instant I saw the trailer with the mummified Ganondorf. Also, the big battle with the Sheikah, princess, and hero vs LInk was 10,000 years ago. The founding of Hyrule and the sealing of Ganondorf was MUCH longer ago than that. I'm going to say a minimum of another 10,000 years, but it's hard to say, it could be like you said and even be 100,000 years, the timeframe is left deliberately vague. A lot of people think Zelda was sent back 10,000 years because of the murals. But the murals do not depict the same war that the mural in Kakariko about Calamity Ganon did, and that's where their confusion results.
I had another thought too. What if...when Ganondorf's seal was much more recent, before it started leaking out Calamity Ganon, he could actually physically reincarnate. If this is the case, then the other games could've taken place in between, and there would've been 2 Ganondorf's at times, one sealed under the castle, one operating on the surface, probably unaware of the original. Ganondorf is a reincarnation of Demise after all. If this is true, this means that TOTK doesn't contradict/reboot the Zelda timeline after all. Since the past scenes are implied to be set not too long (probably a few generations) after Skyward Sword...this would mean that the original sealed Ganondorf exists in ALL timelines, and BOTW may be a "timeline convergence" after all.
Hopefully we get more info since in “original calamity” depicted in BOtW we see a Zonai hero standing up to the calamity but that would be impossible since Rauru and mineru were the last of the Zonai people and they died fighting Ganon, so who tf was that hero in the first place , they had to have had a child already since Zelda is direct descendant of rauru and Sonia
@@oscarm7787 Yep, that couldn't have been a Zonai. That was AT LEAST 10,000 years after Ganondorf was sealed, perhaps even longer.
My theory was that blight ganon was Ganon’s requiring dream of his absolute hatred for the world and I’m happy to have it confirmed!
TOTK Ganondorf seemed powerful already, but the fact that he freed himself from Rauru's prison, on top of shattering the Master Sword means this iteration of Ganondorf might rival or even surpass Demise, the original Demon King. That's a scary thought.
Not even close. The Master Sword is tied to the strength of the wilder so when Ganondorf drained all of Link's he was able to destroy it easily. Despite the popular theory that Calamity Ganon is a manifestation of Ganondorf's hatred, it's simply not true. Calamity Ganon and Ganondorf are never once referred to as the same entity. Creating a Champion straight up tells us Calamity Ganon's origin story and it's when Ganondorf used the Triforce to transform into Dark Beast Ganon. His body slowly withered leaving the spectral form of Malice. Developer interviews and ancient myth basically confirm this. Calamity Ganon is already much more threatening than Ganondorf, but that's not even mentioning some other Ganons. ALttP Ganon had the full Triforce and was able to overthrow the kingdom from a different dimension, Wind Waker Ganondorf cast an endless night on the great sea and was so much of a threat that the Goddesses had to flood the world to stop him, Demise is a God who can create his own dimensions and his chaos also required divine intervention, Hyrule Hyrule Warriors Ganondorf can split the soul of a goddess in half while his os broken into several pieces, wipe out entire armies in seconds, beat Link and Zelda at the same time, and wage a war across time. He's not even close to the strongest Ganon.
@3:33 That's wrong.. this Ganondorf certainly did NOT come out of a 100 year slumber, he's been there since Hyrule's founding..and he hasn't woken up once.
he meant that after the calamity weakend Ganon’s bonds that he began accumulating strength to break free
i havent watched the vid yet but my theory is that calamity Ganon is kind of like phantom Ganon from totk
Theory :
Infinite years ago : goddess creates Tri-force
550k years ago : Fi meets the first Link (skyward sword)
500k years ago : The timeline spilits due to Ganon's destruction of Tri-force (Ocarina of time)
Timeline 1 : OG Link is consoles Majora and hence hides the Mask ( Timeline 1)
Timeline 2 : OG Link won but successor Link saw ganon is hiding in another dimension ( Twilight)
Timeline 3 : Goddess upon anger flooded the hyrule (Wind waker)
10k years ago : All Timeline Joins
Zonai descended from Twilight(Timeline 2 ), the depths are dried oceans (Timeline 3) and the Mask is hidden (Timeline 1)
9.9k years ago : Rauru seals Ganon which lost his power in the destruction of Tri-force (in Ocarina)
125 years ago : Divinebeasts were created to protect hyrule but Ganon's Malice took it
25 years ago : Final Link defeats Ganon's Malice
24 years ago : Link and Zelda finds the Ganon
0 years ago : Ganon got killed by Link
I dont think there will be any Zelda game like botw or totk
No cap, ive always thought of the 2 as seperate entities. One being the true curse of demise while the other is the body that the curse inhabits.
That's my take too. Ganondorf is the man, Ganon is the spirit of Demise that embodies the power Ganondorf calls upon. Ganon is Ganondorf using the power Demise's curse gave him to create new forms to achieve his will. The series outright implies that Ganondorf is not Ganon in multiple entries across the franchise. Phantom Ganon isn't Ganondorf, merely a projection of Ganon away from Ganondorf's own body. The Blight Ganons we fight in the Divine Beasts aren't the main one in the castle nor Ganondorf under it, but rather yet another projection of his power in different forms. This means BotW Link faces at *least* seven different Ganon forms across the two games: Windblight, Waterblight, Fireblight, Thunderblight, Calamity, Dark Beast, and Phantom, all before facing the actual Ganondorf himself. Every one of those others are a legitimate Ganon, but none are the man at the center of it all, merely different manifestations of his power that came from Demise's curse.
In before the "It ain't that deep" comments but maybe the AoC devs were a bit more clued in than you're giving them credit for.
-After Calamity Ganon is defeated, the gloom began to spread, AoC having this happen 100 years earlier may have had the same effect.
-We could then assume the intro of ToTK could play out the same, with Zelda getting sent back to the past.
-Zelda being in the past, telling the story of the forthcoming calamity is very likely what the sheikah based their mural off of all those years ago. (I have somewhat of a theory that Mineru would go onto start the sheikah after the Imprisoning War)
So technically, yes. Since the mural was in Zelda's future in the timeline of events, it could have been changed given that the past was changed. Just a theory though. 👀
Thank you, just finished TOTK about to start Master Mode BOTW
When you complete all of the shrines you are rewarded with an ancient hero outfit, this outfit looks very similar to the one in the mural (green body, red hair)
Good vid 👍👍I just want to know how the lore works with why nobody tried to take the secret stone from Ganon's head once Rauru sealed him.
trying that could well lead to accidentally messing up the seal i think. guess no one wanted to take the risk
@@crustbound Makes sense. Looking forward to more of these types of vids!
I don't believe that this Ganon was aware, consciously, during the time he was imprisoned underneath Hyrule Castle. It all leaked out of him instead, minus most of his mind. He's not aware of time's passage; for him it was the blink of an eye. He's also unaware of Calamity Ganon. ("Gee, strange that Hyrule's already a wreck...oh well, time to regain my strength!")
Ganondorf was sealed when Hyrule kingdom was first founded. 10 000 years ago Hyrule was already a prosperous kingdom and sheikah monks developed their technology then Calamity Ganon appeared.
But why did they build the beats ? Large weapons capable of destroying all of hyrule and they just had them ready? Seems suspicious
It really makes you wonder where this game fits into the rest of the Zelda timeline. If king rauru was hyrule's first king, then Ganondorf was sealed away before the events of ocarina. But honestly, I don't think Nintendo cares about continuity as much as making a fun game, and I can respect that.
I think it’s also important to compare how similar Calamity Ganon’s form that circles Hyrule Castle is to the early stages of the Demon Dragon, Ganondorf’s final form. A form where he gives up everything to destroy Link. As the dragon is said to be mindless, Calamity Ganon is also mindless, but both are the embodiment of Ganondorf’s hatred.
Since Zonai Secret Stones enhance the user’s power, and Ganondorf had his the entire time he was imprisoned, perhaps that is how Calamity Ganon was formed, as Rauru’s seal began to grow weaker. Ganondorf might’ve even revived much earlier, if it weren’t for Zelda using her light powers to seal Calamity Ganon for those 100 years.
1:40 I understand what the tweets are saying, but what's the connection to TotK? That Zelda, like Terrako, was sent back in time but so far back to where it all started and yet, unlike the writing mistake in AoC, Zelda's time travel was technically preordained and thus the time travel technically changed nothing aka everything went according to fate?
Thank you for the great explanation!
Also, note that Zelda and Link did not show up “at the worst possible time.” As the strength of the seal weakened, Rauru had been holding out until Zelda and Link showed up. As they arrived, Rauru “let go.” In this act, he passed his stone to Zelda, so she could begin her journey to the past, where she would be safe.
Thanks man, that clears it all up!
My biggest question with Tears of the Kingdom is why didn't they just take the secret stone from his husk when Rauru sealed him?
Because trying to remove it would potentially break the seal what would happen if they tried broke the seal then rauru sacrificed himself for nothing and Ganondorf destroys hyrule they knew its better to not take the chance and wait for link to appear with the mastersword and the future sages
Ganondorf: Destroy Hyrule
Calamity Ganon: yes
When you use the royal hidden passage from lookout landing to Hyrule castle you find a stone tablet at the end saying that the castle itself was sealing the demon king away.
TLDR: calamity Ganon was the leaking power slash the projection of totk’s ganondorf
Canon or no, I like to think Calamity Ganon is the closest to Phantom Ganon without being directly called that
Yes, i know Phantom Ganon is on TOTK, but the idea of Ganondorf's hatret and even "puppet" to try to revive itself and break the seal makes me think that it is what the Developers intended
Hell, on the Official Artwork book, the Blights are called "The Phantom Ganons"
interestingly, the bosses in tears of the kingdom explode in the exact same way as calamity ganon did in botw. Sure, reused asset and all, but they could've used a different explosion instead. all the bosses as well as calamity ganon served as distractions while the real ganon was building power.
In the Japanese. The blight Ganon's Are actually called Phantom Ganon's as blight was a Mitranslation
@@rghennig1 not exactly a mistranslation.
Phantom Ganon is literally romanized ファントム(fantuum) while the blights are named "カース"(Kāsu) which means curse.
Yes, they later call them "Phantom Ganons" on the artwork book, but it being a mistranslation doesnt seem really the case here
I like that Ganon is back and all, but I have to say... I liked it more when I was able to imagine that Calamity Ganon was Ganon's final form after having completely lost his mind and had his physical body disintegrating completely from the everlasting hold that the triforce of power had over him. I always imagined Calamity Ganon in BOTW as the last remnants of Ganon being eternally sustained in essence but not in form, making him eventually go insane after thousands of years of being reincarnated over and over again until finally, all that remained was his intangible hatred and rage; a mindless spiritual being trapped for all time in the world without ever being able to move on. Like, it was so poetic as I imagined that his desire for power had become his curse, as the triforce of power literally would not allow him to die; even as his reincarnations were all but spent and he would go on to become nothing but ethereal torrents of resurging hatred (Calamity Ganon).
Wait...let me see if I understand this: Calamity Ganon, a very powerful being that corrupted the all almighty Divine Beasts, killed the champions, almost killed Link, and was in a 100 year battle with Zelda...was just a fraction of the real Ganondorf's power??? 😮 Who was sealed all this time by Rauru??? 😱 Damm, he really must've been tired of losing every time against the Hero and the Princess/Goddess. What a monster, such power!
Its crazy to realize that Calamity Ganon was just a gigachad Phantom Ganon so powerful that it had phantoms of its own (the Blight Ganons)
Calamity Ganon is actually Puppet Ganon, made up of the cooled, coagulated Gloom (aka Malice) that had been slowly leaking out of Ganondorf for 10,000 years. If you've ever played Wind Waker, then you should be familiar with the 3 Forms of Puppet Ganon (i.e. the Boar, the Spider, and the Snake...with the cranium of the Boar).
The question burning in my mind is "When are TotK's distant past cinematic scenes set? In which era? A hundred years after Skyward Sword? Is the Ganondorf in TotK the same Ganondorf we see in OoT and TP? If so, how?
He is not the same Ganondorf, mainly because Botw+Totk is most likely a reboot of the timeline/a new timeline.
Even so, if it somehow is connected, Totk Ganondorf would have to exist long after all the old games, because Ganondorf in OoT completely destroyed Hyrule castle and built his own castle, which would have broken Totk Ganondorf free. Also, a new gerudo male can only be born once the old one dies, but Totk Ganondorf is alive when sealed.
yeah not sure if it was explained in botw or not since its been 6 years since i played it but among me and my friends i already made the theory that calamity was ganons hated taking form since ganon himself is acording to zelda lore demise hatred reicarneted
Calamity Ganon was just a manifestation of Demise's curse, Ganondorfs's malice was the best vessel since there wasn't any other male gerudo or people trying to revive ganon
Makes you wonder how insanely powerful SS Link was to single handedly battle Demise and beat him without any aids.
Wait Calamity Ganon excisted 10'000 years ago and Ganondorf was sealed by Rauru 100'000 years ago? These numbers are crazy...
Yeah, Breath of the Wild basically moved the entire timeline forwards vastly into the future compared to the other entries. The games are often thousands of years apart, which makes it a truly mind boggling time between the first Link in Skyward Sword and the current one in Breath of the Wild/Tears of the Kingdom.
All we know for sure is that there was a calamity 10,000 years ago. The 100,000 years he mentions in the video is just a possible number.
1:45 The mural in Age of Calamity wasn't supposed to "replace" the one from 10,000 years ago. It was depicting the events of Age of Calamity in the far future because the Hyrule army actually defeated Ganom this time around. How do people not understand this?
The Calamity is an extension of Ganondorf, but not Ganondorf himself . He's not sentient or aware through it, it just acts like a mindless force of destruction that subconciously does Ganondorf's will - such as taking over the guardians, destroying Hyrule castle, and trying to make a new body for himself.
something i dont get is how the oot ganondorf was born while this one was under the castle
To be totally honest I severely doubt they had a timeline in mind with how totk fits in with the other Zelda games besides botw. Even the old timeline was a barely cannon "this is what a timeline could look like" sort of a thing. If you really want to make it work the best explanation is probably that the Hyrule seen in oot (and the rest of the series) fell before a new Hyrule was "founded" by Raru. Meaning every other ganondorf in the series (however many you consider that to be) happened before totk ganondorf was sealed under the castle.
And all of this without the Triforce. 😳
Triforce: I got better things to do than keep seal the same guy over and over again.
I know it’s not important but it must smell so bad being near Gannon in tears
man has that 100k year old morning breath
Just Got a few questions though
1. Is Calamity Ganon independent of Ganondof though I just thought Calamity Ganon and all other Ganons were controlled by Ganondorf underground like puppets?
2. Apparently it says that Ganon tried to take over Hyrule in his Calamity state that’s wrong isn’t it wouldn’t it make more sense to try and reincarnate a body first?
Thanks bro i have been cofused in this point for such a long time😂😂😂😂 and you settled it great work🥰
Sorry, what was the bit about there being no more Gerudo males? I didn't quite get that bit. I do know that there is meant to be one every hundred years but I still don't get why we haven't seen any.
because the current male is still alive, suspended beneath the castle
@@crustbound ah ok thanks
Calamity Ganon is basically a fragment of Ganondorf’s soul that is filled with malice
My question is the connection between Demise and Ganondorf, because Zelda’s dialogue in the final boss of BOTW reads to me that Ganon is the fragment of Demise reborn time and time again and is/has separated from Ganondorf. As we know the Secret Stones only enhance pre-existing powers the person has so all it does for Ganondorf is awaken Demise within him, causing the transformation and letting him create monsters. We can tell this sort of from how he doesn’t use any magic: no electric tennis phase to his fight, only Gloom and weapon to weapon combat. This Ganondorf is just a man with the fragment of demise within him, awoken by the secret stone. Just like how Zelda’s inherited time powers are awoken, separately from inheriting the Triforce.
Regardless, I assume the damage done to the castle during the calamity refers to when the Divine Beasts blast Calamity Ganon all together because that blast is funnelled directly into a chamber beneath the castle, probably not too far from the chamber Ganondorf is in, and that blast is likely what undid the seal. Or possibly the sudden unexplained disappearance of all the Sheikah tech(?) like those massive pillars under the castle, which probably caused cave ins/opened the ways to the depths.
Sorry if there is an explanation somewhere in the game, currently after beating the main story I haven’t found one yet.
And what is the role of the Ancient Hero? I need more lore of that character, like who was they, what was they a zonaii? Why they are using the master sword
he fought ganon. dont really see what else needs to be said
@@crustbound
fair but people like to overthink things, especially theorists
My theory:
Since Rauru sealed Ganondorf by draining his power, his malice escapes through this “drainage” and arises as the Calamity Ganon we know from the events of BOTW. So not only was Rauru’s sealing method not enough to contain Ganondorf, but it inadvertently allowed him to roam and destroy Hyrule as the Calamity.
This still doesn’t really makes sense to why there is no other male Gerudo in BOTW or TOTK. Unless we’re treating it like some sort of Avatar situation, that there could only be one male Gerudo at a time, which is never stated. And based on just timeline stuff, and I could be way off, it seems as TOTK Ganondorf is the earliest Ganondorf in the series, and would have existed at the bottom of Hyrule castle during OOT/TP Ganondorf events. So the one male Gerudo at a time doesn’t really make sense to me. But idk.
Gerudo women often sought out men from nearby societies (such as hyrule) seeing as they exclusively gave birth to women until it was once again time for a singular gerudo male to be born. This occurred once every 100 years or so. And only one male gerudo lives at a time, hence the absence of a male gerudo in BotW/TotK since ganondorf is still 'alive' despite having been born many thousands of years ago. So while I do not know where on the timeline BotW/TotK would be placed, I think we can safely assume that any overlap with another game that has an incarnation of ganondorf in it can be ruled out.
_"A kid like you may not know this, but the Gerudo race consists only of women. Only one man is born every hundred years..."_ -Nabooru, OoT
@@Martial_Autist I hear what you’re saying. But assuming TOTK Ganondorf is at the bottom of Hyrule Castle during the events of all the other games further down the timeline, then more than one Ganondorf is existing/living at the same time, since TOTK Ganondorf was not killed. But this is just me theorizing that The Hyrule founded in TOTK/BOTW is the same Hyrule as the other games and not a brand new one founded after the events of like twilight princess or something.
I love this game.
Spoiler for the memories
Especially the ninjago reference in the final memory.
the fact that a literal phantom ganon almost gained its own physical form
Now I am curious on how much they had envisioned about a sequel when developing BOTW. Like not having an actual Ganondorf as a villain but a manifestation of him to then beat the real one on a later game sounds premeditated. And now how much they have already envisioned to future games.
Spoiler Allert:
After Link helped the new sages to awake, you can confront the Fake Zelda in Hyrule Castle, in the throne room Ganondorf speaks to Link through this Fake Zelda.
And "She" said two interesting lines after "she" restored the throneroom to its former glory:
"Does it awaken memories? Memories of our time here?"
This implies that, while Ganondorf was sealed and while Calamity Ganon went rampage, Ganondorf kinda had Calamity Ganon under his control - or maybe he even was Calamity Ganon, maybe his spirit managed to Escape his sealed body but he tried to recreate himself a new one Because he couldnt reincarnate into another human body.
Wait… so this means that Ganon or the demon king was underneath hyrule castle during ocarina of time, twilight princess and pretty much every other Zelda game? So there’s technically two ganons at the same time multiple times throughout the game? Why when link was an adult in ocarina of time did the TOTK Gannon not get freed by the OOT gannondorf?
Nice video! Tears of the Kingdom is a game i haven't tried yet, but would be trying it soon
By the way, have you tried watching Monkie Kid yet?
And I'm definitely screenshotting the skeleton pfp before it goes away.
also, ganon's design is amazing
I think the tapestry from AoC was supposed to be representing 100 years ago, not the one for 10,000 years ago. Those figures are literally the champions and champion descendents, its a remaking of the tapestry for their modern time
You forgot to mention this is a different Ganondorf
I just believed that Ganondorf knew people would want him to be stopped, so he created a calamity to keep the world his, and if calamity died, he’d make an appearance
No matter what I do, Impa is not at her house. I completed the dragon tear quest, I talked to her after doing the forgotten temple stuff, and she is nowhere 😭
You’ve got to finish everything else as well. All the main quests except for two (you’ll know which two), and only after that’s finished will Impa appear in Kakariko village
@@aegis84 I did EVERYTHING you said and Impa still not appear in my game.
@@LeocaprioDinardo it actually fixed for me once I did the mission with the ring ruins I didn’t know about until recently
The confusing part for me is how is Ganondorf in OoT if he was sealed by the first king of Hyrule, which implies it's before OoT since Zelda father isn't the first king in that game.
The whole "founding of Hyrule" thing needed some more clarification I think. I think Hyrule fell and then was refounded by Rauru and the Zonai, although Nintendo should have clarified this. Perhaps through item descriptions for the old hero armor "this armor was worn by the hero of a long gone kingdom" or something coulda worked
@@crustbound My personal theory is that the old Hyrule kingdom was somehow destroyed to a point people took refuge to the Depth and that is why we see so many traces of civilisation down there, an then they went back to the surface with Zonai guiding them. That could also explain the look of Hylians which would have evolved longer ears to adapt to their new dark environment (like Sonia), and that trait slowly disapeared again when they went back to the surface.
@@moggtow I think that so many cycles of rebirth happened that ultimately Old Hyrule was destroyed by them and while Ganon was defeated i think that it caused so much collateral damage that in the end Ganon won the war.
The current head cannon in the Zelda community is that sometime after the end of the timeline the original Hyrule collapsed and was forgotten. Only for the ancient heroes that saved the land of Hyrule to be remembered as myths.
@@denstsunogemaandrewvelasco8339 I wonder if the merging of the timelines was the catalyst for this reset, i can imagine three separate timelines with their own history just suddenly merging would cause an unholy amount of destruction and it would absolutely destroy Hyrule itself.
Welp the age of calamity timeline is gonna have their hands full with Revali Daruk and Urbosa dying of old age before Ganondorf comes back. That is unless Purah makes the reverse aging rune work on everyone which in that case they’ve probably got a better shot that the TOTK cast of characters
Answering the title: He's the runoff spillage.
This explains why ganon keeps coming back in the previous zelda games (oot, twilight...etc) and why he always have hatred, because the real him was sealed under the castle (Also i always thought Zelda built Hyrule).
This is what i think of the story line, Demise (skyward sword) was sealed by Hylia(Zelda) for a long time, finally got out then was immediatly killed by link, then rebirth as Ganon then got sealed again by king Rauru, thats why he got alot of hatred, while he was sealed he hatred takes form of calamity ganon trying to destory hyrule to free himself but failed every time (oot, twilight...etc), and finally succeed in botw, then we faced the real him in totk.
NGL it's impressive that ford sheer hatred was basically as dangerous as him, like how is it possible to be THIS spiteful
What is interesting is that this means Ganondorf is a common name given to Gerudo males so it is just a coincidene that the original Ganondorf from the Imprisoning War and the more recent Ganondorf from OoT share the same name. It also shows that males continue to be born to the tribe but their position as king is determined by the sociopolitical circumstances of the Gerudo at the time. Consequently when you do see the rare red-haired males in Hyrule it means they do have Gerudo heritage.
Except Botw+Totk is most likely in a new timeline/reboot.
OoT Ganondorf could not exist inbetween the Totk ancient past and Botw.
@@armzngunz Why do you think it would be impossible to have a Gerudo king born who is given the name Ganondorf? Zelda is a legacy name passed down through the Hylian royal family afterall.
@@KryyssTV
A new gerudo male is born once every 100 years, but that only works once the old male has died. Totk Ganondorf is not dead, so no new male can be born. This is proven by the fact that there haven't been any new ones, none is seen in Botw or Totk.
In the book "Creating a Champion" it is said:
"According to Gerudo records there has not been another male Gerudo leader since the king who became the Calamity."
So if there is a 3rd game in the same Botw-universe, we may see a new gerudo male.
Even so, if there could be another gerudo male, if OoT Ganondorf came after Totk Ganondorf was sealed, that would not work, because OoT Ganondorf destroyed Hyrule castle, which would have set Totk Ganondorf free.
@@armzngunz Not once has any of the games stated that the previous male must be dead for a new one to be born and even the Creating a Champin said there has been no Gerudo male who became their leader not that none were born. Never. In fact the simple existance of Ganondorf the First from the pre-Hyrulean era and Ganondorf the Second in OoT proves that no such rule exists.
In the TotK memories, Rauru even states that a male is only born every 100 years meaning the death of the previous male is not a requirement for the next to be born.
@@KryyssTV
"Not once has any of the games stated that the previous male must be dead for a new one to be born"
Whats more important is that there's never been one shown in the games themselves. They specifically said in the Totk memories that a gerudo male is born every 100 years. This is practically non-existant in Botw and Totk present, it's not mentioned at all. The gerudo are at that point only known as an all-female race.
Speculating that there may be some off-screen is pointless, especially considering the "one male every 100 years" probably is caused by magic or something, so it'd make sense there wouldn't be any gerudo males if Ganondorf is still alive.
" In fact the simple existance of Ganondorf the First from the pre-Hyrulean era and Ganondorf the Second in OoT proves that no such rule exists"
This assumes that OoT is in the same timeline as Totk, or that Totk memories happen before OoT, which is far from certain, so I'm not even going to entertain that idea for obvious reasons.
is it really ever confirmed that there was no gerudo male, or another ganondorf existing at the same time? personally i think this story takes place over the entire series, with rauru and the imprisoning war happening some time just after skyward sword and while there would have been 2 ganondorfs PHYSICALLY during oot and the timeline split totk ganondorf would have essentially been dead because of the magic sealing him however after all of the main zelda stuff the curse of demise would have no other choice but to push totk ganondorf towards reviving weakening the binding magic enough for the calamities to start and eventually causing enough damage to free totk ganondorf
The final boss of Botw is Calamity Ganon in a new unfinished body. No matter if you believe that Calamity and Totk Ganondorf are the same, we still see 2 Ganons at the same time. One being the Calamity and other being trapped under the castle.
well i mean calamity and ganondorf are the same as confirmed by the game itself
@@crustbound yes as stated in your vid and both botw and totk its just the hatred and malice that totk ganondorf has manifesting into what we see in botw
I agree with the ops comment. This ganondorf in totk has been underground the whole time while other ganondorfs were born
for clarification i said 2 ganondorfs as in the gerudo not referring to the calamity as that was simply the hate and malice that totk ganondorf had incarnated. i meant that because the sealing magic on totk ganondorf was still in good effect he was essentially dead during ocarina of time hence why the curse of demise took to a new ganondorf which was the one in ocarina of time, and only after the events of the main zelda timeline was the curse of demise forced to use totk ganondorf again starting by loosening the seal just enough for the calamities to start which would eventually free totk ganondorf... also sidenote and completely unrelated but i am very disappointed that totk ganondorf usedaclub instead of the big doriya sword
Not sure if anyone commented about this, but something that I’ve always been confused about is how Ganondorf has been sealed away when *Hyrule was founded*. If this is the case, and only one ganondorf can exist at a time, how does the other ganondorfs from other games exist? Wouldn’t those Ganons conflict with the (living) Ganon temporarily sealed under the castle?
BoTW and TotK take place long after all the other games. They're effectively a soft reboot and aren't connected to the previous games.
Either more than one Ganondorf can exist, with OoT Ganondorf existing while TOTK Ganondork was chilling beneath hyrule castle (weird given that castle also was lifted but whatever) or the "founding" of Hyrule we see in TOTK is actually a "refounding", a looooot of time after the past games.
Or Botw+Totk is a reboot of the series, unrelated to games like Ocarina of Time.
To think, Zelda gave everything she had to hold back Calamity Ganon for 100 years, and that was basically just the excess evil that was leaking from Rauru's seal.
This explains so much.
To be fair, we don't know if calamity Ganon always takes 10.000 years to resurrect, it is perfectly possible that the reason it spent so long between the great calamity and botw was to gather enough power to take over the sheikah tech, in fact, that would explain why it becomes so powerful as dark beast Ganon
Didn't Zelda travel 10000 years into the past in TOTK? I think that was what they refer to the original calamity.