Suicide Squad's INSANE Battlepass Length - Luke Reacts
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Man the suicide squad grind makes call of duty look casual
acually COD is better than that game cause atleast the Multiplayer has content
@christonchev9762 eh that's pretty debatable. Both games are about equal to me. Most of cod is just reused assets and cosmetics.
Hahahahahaha mate what grind is there in cod, if your referring to the battle pass it can be completed in a week of casual mp 😂 you seem missinformed
@@Ridersrepublicshorts @Ridersrepublicshorts yeah, but then I'd have to play cod for a week. That isn't happening either.
@@Ridersrepublicshorts yeah maybe if you have no life outside of playing one video game with your time lmao there is literally no way I could complete one in a month let alone a week. That being said... I play games worth my time so there's that.
I dont understand how so many people were tricked into defending this garbage. There are free games. Free ffs that give you more, better polished content for free.
Not to mention games that have passes that don't expire and allow you to play at your pace without feeling like youll miss out.
@@captaindestruction9332 this is literally one of those games
I’ve seen like 3 people defend it lol. Everyone just complains about it. Like I get it its a bad game we don’t need 1000 videos saying the same thing.
There’s an element of The Sunk Cost Fallacy to that? People don’t like to admit they’ve been conned when they’ve spent money and time on something. My analysis, for what it’s worth: From the moment Warner Bros saw that their game was a dud and was never going to be the live service milch cow printing regular Fortnight levels of cash for them, they decided to make sure it tanked, rather than investing all the time, money and resources into making a good game. That way, they can still claim a lot of money back from their insurance, in the same way they did with the Batgirl movie, which was all but ready for release when they shitcanned that. Only, in this case, they have to be able to show their insurer that they, “acted in good faith,” by supporting their live service plan. Now they’re adding such egregious grind that they can show their insurers a graph with a downward plunging line on it, whilst still being able to say, “But we added The Joker! What more do these ungrateful people want?”
@@anthonyg1307 yeah but let's not pretend that this game is not in a lifeline. Think what would happen if the servers shutdown, obviously the battlepass will be gone too.
Rocksteady : Keep playing guys
No I'm good Marvel rivals is coming.
No
@user-zd1oc3pz8s I hope marvel rivals is good
@@user-zd1oc3pz8shope marvel rivals is good
i must for batman to come back in december
Still wild how hard people defended this game. They should all be apologizing
I dont know if this is a new thing or if the internet just shows off these crazy people. How can you defend a corporation. Argue with fellow customers saying this is enough for my money. Just the concept of people will defend something that offers nothing to them. When literally free games offer more content and at a greater level of polish.
9/10 it was content creators looking to make content for a game they want to try to gas up as the next Fortnite for the sake of their career.
@@0o-0o694Because no one wants to believe that the company they looked up to as children would treat them like this.
@@ExzimiusI grew up a disney kid, as did all of my friends. That's over 20 years. We still love the movies but ain't no way we'll defend a lot of the company's decisions the same way these psychos did. They were literally telling people who pointed out all the faults like Luke they were wrong and to kys
Like bffr
nah mate EVERYONE hates this game now, even its strongest defenders
They strategically did this. It'll take you two months to complete it. Just in time for the next season. The cycle will continue so they can brag about their false play time when they shut the servers down.
I agree. I don't think they've figured out how willing most people are to kick this game to the curb, though. Maybe they're in full Ahab mode, looking for their whales.
Am I the only one who confuses why WB or Marvel make live service in this format? Why not "duplicate" existing successful live service format with DC or MCU theme and add more their own comic book story in it, etc? They literally already have thousand heroes or villains on their rooster.
@@mygamechannel2300you have to remember WB is run by some of the dumbest people on the planet. The only reason we got the Arkham series is because Edios took the risk with Rocksteady.
@@mygamechannel2300 they have so many iconic IP, and can’t make a decent video game… which makes so much fucking sense lol
I genuinely find this discussion frustrating and a bit depressing. It’s so obviously an insurance scheme at this point it hurts. Just ask yourself why? Why would such an experienced, well funded, well resourced company with so much data at their fingertips and so many analysts working for them, “seem,” to shoot themselves in the foot SO egregiously? Unless . . . That was their plan from the moment they knew the game was a dud?
Anyone remember the Batgirl movie? They got most of their investment back for that one, once they realised it was tanking with test audiences and that no amount of editing could save it. So we know Warner Bros has form.
But, with a live service game, they will have to be able to show their insurers that they checked all the boxes: continued to support the game, added new content, lived up to their, “promises,” of new characters, etc. so they can’t just walk away for a few months until they can produce a convincing looking downward sloping graph for their gullible insurers.
It’s probably completely legal too. But to me, it’s acting in about as bad faith as a direct confidence trick, at this point.
I have 218 hours in Hell Divers 2 and have fully unlocked everything in all three of the available warbonds. I also have enough super credits, THAT I FOUND IN-GAME, to get the upcoming warbond immediately. There's really no other way to put this: if Rocksteady gets shut down for this colossal failure of a game, then they'll have deserved it.
Αrrowhead is the embodiment of planning ahead with an ongoing story that is affected by the players and cool shit with enemies getting new variations etc. Deserves GOTY nomination
1500 mission grind is not acceptable, even in a good game.
Don't worry Marvel Rivals will be better than this
I cant imagine a game where 1500 missions is reasonable in any game I've ever played. Gta 5,Red dead where tf would a grind like that for cosmetics ever be worth it
@@maltheri9833no one is completing the pass off just the missions. You get 4500 from fear and 1550 from dailies and 350 for every ten of a contract. The pass takes 50 hours max.
@@user-zd1oc3pz8s I don't think you realize how low that bar is.
Sounds like the marketing teams picked a bunch of key performance indicator numbers to come up with the optimal number to maximize user interaction and microtransaction profits. However, they always leave out the KEY performance indicator, "Mean Time Between Rage Quits".
Keep this suicide squad content coming. Can’t get enough of this stuff….so funny to watch this melt down.
This is better than the actual game. 💀
@@fernandosepulveda7297 That's such a low bar lmfao
They certainly deserve it at Warner Bros. And some of the execs at Rocksteady too. But I do feel for the devs who’ve been there since the early, successful days and clung on with hope. And for the customers who don’t follow gaming media, don’t have the time to read review magazines because they work so hard and just liked the cover art, read the blurb and thought, “That sounds like some escapist fun before I go back on shift at the hospital, building sight, whatever.”
I have little sympathy for players still defending the game . . . those who aren’t Warner Bots, anyway. Most of all, I would like to hear about execs at Warner being fired, after assuring the share holders that everything would be fine, even when the entire internet said NOOOOO!!! Even after the most creative minds at Rocksteady quit in disgust. Even after the founders of Rocksteady followed them out the door!
I want to see those people, those (“former,” presumably?) executives giving interviews.
But what bothers me most of all? Warner has clearly decided to sabotage their own game for the insurance money. Like in that famous comedy, The Producers, they now have to guarantee it’s a flop. Sure, they hoped it wouldn’t be at the start, and were arrogant and greedy enough to ignore all feedback, but on DAY ONE they KNEW they had a dud. And someone remembered how much insurance money they got back from the Batgirl movie that will never be shown and said, “Well, if we put in lots of the things gamers hate, even the stubborn ones won’t have enough hours in the day to grind through it all. Let’s guarantee a flop and get the insurance back?”
And that’s the CON we see before us now.
And people wonder why I get SO ANNOYED at videos like this, where the host is asking, “But, why would they? Can’t they see that grind is hurting the game? Are they stupid?” OF COURSE THEY CAN SEE IT! THAT’S THE POINT!
Fair play to the journalist, having 80+ hours in this trash probably makes them one of the most experienced players out there.
Rocksteady is done for. After this, no one will trust their games to be quality. It will take a decade or more work to salvage their reputation to where it was before.
And they'd have to do EVERYTHING right to earn that trust.... they painted a target on themselves with this title and now gamers will always practice skepticism with them on the front end and magnify any negative aspects that come in future projects. They really put themselves in a hole with this game
I`ve always said that the inclusion of a battlepass is more than just offering cosmetics because the game has to facilitate the battlepass which means including lots of repetitive side missions that players can grind to earn XP. Here they want players to continue playing for a long time so that explains their approach. They are forgetting that there needs to be variety to keep players interested. The game also has to be insanely fun.
I can’t believe people defend this slop, like holy mother of cope back in my day when we brought a game it was at least finished at launch. Ps2 was the peak of gaming consoles change my mind.
The best thing for Suicide Squad Kill The Justice League is for people to stop talking about this game and let it die. It's over and there's no way for WB and Shitsteady to redeem themselves. There is no redemption arc for Suicide Squad Kill The Brain Cells.
People talk about it because no one actually wants to play it
I spent 150 hours to complete all three battlepasses currently in Helldivers 2 and that was me chilling and playing after my 9-6 work hours.
You work too much. Should be 07-14.
This is Star Wars Battlefront II levels of grind and stupidity
Imagine if rocksteady made a post on reddit like how EA did and it becomes more downvoted
I can't will till the Helldiver warbond drops in a few days and I can get it with currency I didn't have to spend money on and collected IN the game to complete it in a timely manner. Jesus Christ rocksteady it's not that hard.
Everyone: they can’t fuck up any worse
Rocksteady: HOLD MY BEER, watch this
You could still beat the entire game’s Battle Pass in a shorter time than it would take to watch every single video Luke has made on this cash cow 😂
It took me 3 days and a half to complete thr battle pass using a glitch in the Joker build combined with the scarecrow grenade rank 3. Just trowing grenades in the open world combined with some missions in the open world since it doesn't reset the glitch and it respawn the cargonautes. I'm not playing this game unless something new to do comes up.
Suicide squad kills rocksteady
This is going free to play before they pull the plug. There will be humbe bundle's before they pull the plug. Look at gotham city impostors and what happened with that. And that game was pretty good for what it was. Y'all forgot about gotham city impostors :D
Sounds like the Halo Infinite Battlepass situation XP wise. I remember it was a grind to get through even just a few levels. The good thing with Infinite though is they at least had the decency to let you go at your own pace and not miss out on any content.
I remember when Rocksteady games were so good you wanted to spend hundreds of hours playing them.
New to the channel, gotta say love the content man.
They messed up the math. Article says 1500 missions to get 7500 xp. But they said each mission gives 50 xp, so it would take 150 missions, not 1500
i think it's important to remember wb games is behind rocksteady. i dont think rocksteady is blameless. but i do think wb games had a major hand at the live service aspect of suicide squad. I'm a huge mortal kombat fan and mk1 feels very different from the other games. Rushed, not a lot modes, weird decisions, content that should've been from release being slowed talked about and brought to the game. and of course microtransactions in the shape of seasonal fatalities and fan favorite skins. i used to adore netherrealm studios games but after mk1 and the wb games push to promote live service games im skeptical. so i think it's important to remember wb games is behind rocksteady as well, because it feels off to me these high regarded studios with weird decisions and mediocre (or bad) games
2:35 I've gotta say though: I've felt like this about grinds from game I even LIKE to play. Bone tired of games that want me to make a job out of them.
What blows my mind about the premise of this game is that super heroes are famously good at dealing with people with guns. So, they made a game where you kill super heroes with guns. What?!
My theory is that the original people who chose to do this had a completely different vision. We've heard plenty of stories lately how the suits above everyone else want to do things _they_ want because it will theoretically make money and not a good game. The original guys probably got fed up with it and left. Because it makes no sense how the game was in development for 7 years and all that came out of it was this. It was probably restarted halfway through
The length for the has been very variable apparently, i have seen people said that grind the battlepass in 30-45 minutes
Instead of releasing new substantial content they’re trying to stretch out minimal and cosmetic stuff and keep gameplay retention numbers high. Just scummy and such a shame to see how they’re treating their dwindling community
You get what you deserve ultimately
I bought it on sale. And I am having a lot of fun. Sure there is repetition and grind but…I use to play destiny and chasing the hard/max level cap in the game felt like a job and was repetitive, but was fun too. I feel like this is a criticism of the genre more than the game imho.
See this come from what was one of my favourite games studios is actually heartbreaking - WB really robbed us of some quality super hero games
I was about to write that the Rocksteady devs are probably still playing the Batman Arkham series, but they're probably just playing Helldivers 2 :D
They need to fire everyone at Rocksteady and I mean everyone and start from scratch
Great game, just got even better!
How does rocksteady do it?
Ohh man what you don't remember with anthem; recap when the first trailer hit E3 that's when the developers first saw what the game was gonna be, before it even dropped they didn't know what the game was or it was gonna be, it wasn't because they were to ambitious
5:32
FYI Luke Twat is not pronounced as "Twot", it rhymes with hat and cat :)
Paul Tassi seems like a cool guy. Just recently started watching some of his content.
Like a dragon has a ton of content. Tons of different things to do, to keep you as a player engaged. Why did they decide to make a video game where you do most of the fighting on rooftops, little to no enemy variety, and a short campaign.. on top of all that they decided to make a battle pass like this lmao. Why did they make a game about the suicide squad in the first place?! So many head scratching decisions. This game shouldn’t have even been made!
I enjoy your videos on this game. I can’t believe people play this game. But then I am a destiny player so I know what grinds are like. But please keep your commentary coming about this game.
5:53 that just sounds like they themselves are one of the hackers on the leaderboard
Wonder woman is going to take all the attention when it actually gets a proper trailer just because of the Nemesis system. And monolith did make good middle earth games if we take out the mtx
The new studio founded by the former Rocksteady devs is called "Hundred Star Studios".
Suicide squad: kill rocksteady studios
I´m still surprised Kotaku, Polygon and Bellular aren´t jumping in and singing praises about the game.
man i hope warner bros gets humbled someday so badlyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
I have a full time job with other responsibilities. There is no way that I have time to do that. I'm not 15 years old anymore
This is why I hate Battlepasses, because the devs can completely decide how long it takes to complete these things.
And if for whatever reason you're unable to complete the whole battlepass and you were stupid enough to spend money on it, you'll lose the rewards that YOU ALREADY PAID FOR.
It's like, I go to a bookstore and buy a book, but its in blank state. And the cashier hands me completed version of the book and tells me that if I want to get the completed book I have to copy-paste the context from the completed book myself, but I have a time limit until they take the original book away from me and I'm left with incomplete book.
How is this even legal?
After 3 days of in game time, a good majority of which has been played in this fear update to really try out. Sitting at fear rank 124, top mastery levels are all at 29, been rocking on the max difficulty/invasion level and still after the tedious grinding already my battle pass is only at 29 it’s just sad and bland. bunch of emotes and voice lines, best items available are the gear parts for king shark.. sadly not worth the time put in.
Sony psn is still handing out refund. 😂
9:07
No it's not super novel idea
At least Team Fortress 2 did that. Literally 1 by 1. Didn't announced anything, giant thing that stores robots inside them were at the hill
TF2 should always be remembered for being the game that influenced much of the industry but no one knows about it.
At least until it was taken over by bots.
Having to play through the battlepass would be a nightmare
Grinding Suicide Squad has to be in the list of top 5 worst torture methods, and also a violation of the Geneva Convention.
Dont listen to the naysayers. I love the SS:KtJL updates. I absolutely have no interest in playing this, but I love to hear about how its doing.
Watching Luke talk about this game is like watching John Wick shoot a guy multiple times on his way down. Hilarious and entertaining.
@bwill123 I know right 🤣 I could watch Luke dunk on games all day. It's hilarious😂
Same tho lmaooo
I still can't figure out why they didn't try to make a co-op arkhame game, or maybe some mode similar to mass effect 3 multiplayer. And than move to online/live service once they understand how to do it better. I would play mass effect like multiplayer batman game using arkham combat. I would probbably play that for years if the supported it and added new content.
The player count has been cut in half over the last couple days. It had almost 900 players at it's peak a couple days ago. Now it's in the 400's again like it was before season one launched. So they lost their entire season one increase in less than 2 weeks and there's not another season coming soon to save them. We may see this game get into the double digit player numbers by the time season 2 launches.
I used to play Black Desert. I can't say much here about "grindy" lol No leg to stand on.
The Rock has offically become unsteady
And another question is how much of yhr battlepass bs is because of rocksteady and how much was pushed by warner bros because they WB is also really scummy as of late
For contrast, you only need to log in once to be a part of Helldivers’ Major Orders
0:50 This article is confused with itself. It talks about needing 1k XP per level, then says you need 7500 XP for max level. It says you get 50XP for any mission, so it would require 1500 missions played. But if those numbers are correct, you need 150. And none of that really tracks with game footage I've seen where over a half level's progress is awarded at once. I'm hardly an apologist for this game, which tracks about 180 degrees away from anything I'd be vaguely interested in playing. But I get the idea that the "journalist" from Forbes doesn't know what they're talking about.
Paul Tassi is a hack lol, dude is as useless as new Rocksteady.
Got blocked to point out his mistakes very politely on Twitter, dude is a crybaby.
I think it was a typo, you need 75000 xp to complete the battlepass.
@@firasdrass943 That checks out because there's 75 levels each at 1000 XP required.
Sure@@alelokox88
This isn’t just character I saw a player using gear that isn’t in the loot pool
It is baffling, almost seems like the devs are making these decisions that will annoy players as a way hitting back at their bosses to embarrass them
Its basically overwhelming the base into wanting to spend the money instead of actually grinding it out.
How many purple zits would you encounter in 1500 missions?
You'd be an honorary dermatologist for sure
hi luke, how's your thumb
Once this game goes under, get ready for the months of browbeating with concept art or reveals of cool content or storylines that they would have given us if we had only given their game a chance, but don’t forget: they could have just given us that stuff to begin with.
The player numbers are so low even a week after season 1, its difficult to find a full group. It's usually me, and one other random. They've segmented the online mp into 3 sections for players that want to tackle the harder content....soooo you have the newer folks like myself that are unable to find decent players now and some of the harder incursions are unbearable to play with only 2 players.
The part of "Kill the Justice League" was just a metaphor of how this game is gonna kill any chance of having games based of any of those superheroes
This is so unfortunate. I really enjoyed the game. First two weeks even when everyone was bashing it I was really enjoying it. I ran out of stuff to do and of course started Helldivers 2. I went back one time for the season 1 and even bought the joker. And it just wasn’t fun anymore. Sucks because I really liked it. Hopefully future seasons can help it??
so its the same 10 missions types over and over for the next 7 years.
We should save the 50 people left playing this game
6:23 Hello, 343 exists lol
I hope everyone who directed, produced and even made the game is sitting watching the Helldivers 2 player count and crying
Suicide squad: give us our money back
At this point i'm convinced whoever is in charge of these decisions just hates their customers and this is all an intentional giant middle-finger for whatever is left of their playerbase. You can't continuously be this bad at all this life-service stuff... this has to be on purpose.
You just know it’s some old man somewhere saying “video games are shtupid!!! Intentionally sabotaging their game studios so they can finally abandon the video game making.
I forgot this game had came out 😂😂😂
It took me 5 hours to complete the battlepass, the hell was the writer of the article doing 😂
If you’re a machine….Like STNG Data… you can play continuously for 62.5 days or 2 months without sleep and your prize is the Joker.
That’s literally selling your soul…your life for a game skin that may not be around in a year.
You can’t get that back. It’s a bad trade. 🤔
And now you get to do all the grind again, except now with joker, so you can unlock another person lol
I have a 70 season rank and something around level 12 in battle pass. The grind is atrocious. It makes you not want to play, not the other way around.
I see battle pass and head the other way...
Even in gacha games battle passes usually only takes 30 dailies, which can be completed in 10 minutes.
Meaning this is at least 20x grindier than mobile games.
It’s crazy how half of the problem would cease to exist if they had just come up with new mission and enemy types instead of just recycling the same shit
Takes 35-50 hours max to do the pass with the dailies.
WB creates content for this game the same way an 8th grader writes a school report on the United States that he's told must be at least 100 words:
"The United States is made up for States that are united. They used to not be united, but then they became united. These states, which are united, became united after not being united. You can find all of the states on a map of the United States. A map of the United States is a map that tells you which states are in the United States. Here." Points at a map on the wall. Coughs. "This is a map of the United States. You can tell it's the United States because the states are touching." Someone titters. The teacher scowls. Student clears his throat. "There were not always fifty states in the United States. There used to be less. Much less. The end."
I have a very strong suspicion that at some point a couple years before launch, they had to completely scrap the entire game and basically start over
When people always try to say it's not the same studio, all the original devs left, the founders left I kinda get annoyed because those veterans started this train and when they saw they were heading for a cliff they waved goodbye and jumped off leaving the new hires to try and fix their problems and without that leadership and experience, they couldn't. I don't blame Rocksteady for not being Rocksteady of old when the old Rocksteady f****d themselves up and then left so someone else could take the blame. Honestly, I'm not looking forward to their next game considering how bad they botched this one already and the fact that they weren't willing to stick it out and deal with their own mess just feels kinda scummy to me.
What would be the point of baning hacker in this game like if there playing alone in a dead game i really don't think it would matter
*injects daily dose of confirmation bias against SSKTJL directly into my veins
The 5 people playing are so stoked lol they should shut the servers down and save the embarrassment
Im sooo glad Helldivers 2 exists lolol The problem wasn't having a coop, live service game. The problem was having a BAD coop, live service game. Ohh Rocksteady, how you have fallen.
Loving the Suicide Squad content, more please ❤
The decisions on the content they're releasing today were made years ago and baked into their roadmap. Now, they won't deviate from it because it's their plan to monetize the game, as the bros at Warner so deeply desire. They're on autopilot, with baffling marketing messages touting the game even as it dies. Any deviation could mean their jobs; it will displease the Wall Street Gods who demand that "The Line Must Go Up".
You should do a review on the game called Stalcraft the battle pass they released a month ago has 1000 lvls.
And since if you buy a mask quantity you get a discount so if you buy the complete 1000 package I think you spent around $800
You could also compare this "game" to Injustice 2. There are some similarities and a lot of differences between the two and I think Rocksteady could have learned so much from it.
Hundred Star Games is the new studio
He said over at suicide squad
Joker looks like Rhea Ripley