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Your mic sounded quite rough here during the rating. You should definitely check that out Legend, I got a headache halfway through the video. Hope for you it's just settings and not the mic itself!
The fact that you mistook Settra... Great King, the Imperishable, Khemrikhara, The Great King of Nehekhara, King of Kings, Opener of the Way, Wielder of the Divine Flame, Punisher of Nomads, The Great Unifier, Commander of the Golden Legion, Sacred of Appearance, Bringer of Light, Father of Hawks, Builder of Cities, Protector of the Two Worlds, Keeper of the Hours, Chosen of Ptra, High Steward of the Horizon, Sailor of the Great Vitae, Sentinel of the Two Realms, The Undisputed, Begetter of the Begat, Scourge of the Faithless, Carrion-feeder, First of the Charnel Valley, Rider of the Sacred Chariot, Vanquisher of Vermin, Champion of the Death Arena, Mighty Lion of the Infinite Desert, Emperor of the Shifting Sands, He Who Holds The Sceptre, Great Hawk Of The Heavens, Arch-Sultan of Atalan, Waker of the Hierotitan, Monarch of the Sky, Majestic Emperor of the Shifting Sands, Champion of the Desert Gods, Breaker of the Ogre Clans, Builder of the Great Pyramid, Terror of the Living, Master of the Never-Ending Horizon, Master of the Necropolises, Taker of Souls, Tyrant to the Foolish, Bearer of Ptra's Holy Blade, Scion of Usirian, Scion of Nehek, The Great, Chaser of Nightmares, Keeper of the Royal Herat, Founder of the Mortuary Cult, Banisher of the Grand Hierophant, High Lord Admiral of the Deathfleets, Guardian of the Charnal Pass, Tamer of the Liche King, Unliving Jackal Lord, Dismisser of the Warrior Queen, Charioteer of the Gods, He Who Does Not Serve, Slayer off Reddittras, Scarab Purger, Favoured of Usirian, Player of the Great Game, Liberator of Life, Lord Sand, Wrangler of Scorpions, Emperor of the Dunes, Eternal Sovereign of Khemri's Legions, Seneschal of the Great Sandy Desert, Curserer of the Living, Regent of the Eastern Mountains, Warden of the Eternal Necropolis, Herald of all Heralds, Caller of the Bitter Wind, God-Tamer, Master of the Mortis River, Guardian of the Dead, Great Keeper of the Obelisks, Deacon of the Ash River, Belated of Wakers, General of the Mighty Frame, Summoner of Sandstorms, Master of all Necrotects, Prince of Dust, Tyrant of Araby, Purger of the Greenskin Breathers, Killer of the False God's Champions, Tyrant of the Gold Dunes, Golden Bone Lord, Avenger of the Dead, Carrion Master, Eternal Warden of Nehek's Lands, Breaker of Djaf's Bonds... and many, many more... for Khatep... is disappointing...
LegendofTotalWar should bow to Settra the Great King, the Imperishable, Khemrikhara, The Great King of Nehekhara, King of Kings, Opener of the Way, Wielder of the Divine Flame, Punisher of Nomads, The Great Unifier, Commander of the Golden Legion, Sacred of Appearance, Bringer of Light, Father of Hawks, Builder of Cities, Protector of the Two Worlds, Keeper of the Hours, Chosen of Ptra, High Steward of the Horizon, Sailor of the Great Vitae, Sentinel of the Two Realms, The Undisputed, Begetter of the Begat, Scourge of the Faithless, Carrion-feeder, First of the Charnel Valley, Rider of the Sacred Chariot, Vanquisher of Vermin, Champion of the Death Arena, Mighty Lion of the Infinite Desert, Emperor of the Shifting Sands, He Who Holds The Sceptre, Great Hawk Of The Heavens, Arch-Sultan of Atalan, Waker of the Hierotitan, Monarch of the Sky, Majestic Emperor of the Shifting Sands, Champion of the Desert Gods, Breaker of the Ogre Clans, Builder of the Great Pyramid, Terror of the Living, Master of the Never-Ending Horizon, Master of the Necropolises, Taker of Souls, Tyrant to the Foolish, Bearer of Ptra's Holy Blade, Scion of Usirian, Scion of Nehek, The Great, Chaser of Nightmares, Keeper of the Royal Herat, Founder of the Mortuary Cult, Banisher of the Grand Hierophant, High Lord Admiral of the Deathfleets, Guardian of the Charnal Pass, Tamer of the Liche King, Unliving Jackal Lord, Dismisser of the Warrior Queen, Charioteer of the Gods, He Who Does Not Serve, Slayer off Reddittras, Scarab Purger, Favoured of Usirian, Player of the Great Game, Liberator of Life, Lord Sand, Wrangler of Scorpions, Emperor of the Dunes, Eternal Sovereign of Khemri's Legions, Seneschal of the Great Sandy Desert, Curserer of the Living, Regent of the Eastern Mountains, Warden of the Eternal Necropolis, Herald of all Heralds, Caller of the Bitter Wind, God-Tamer, Master of the Mortis River, Guardian of the Dead, Great Keeper of the Obelisks, Deacon of the Ash River, Belated of Wakers, General of the Mighty Frame, Summoner of Sandstorms, Master of all Necrotects, Prince of Dust, Tyrant of Araby, Purger of the Greenskin Breathers, Killer of the False God's Champions, Tyrant of the Gold Dunes, Golden Bone Lord, Avenger of the Dead, Carrion Master, Eternal Warden of Nehek's Lands, Breaker of Djaf's Bonds and beg for his forgiveness for this heretical mistake.
@@Elzeoo Not only he does have those titles, it's not even a full version. According to tabletop, Settra got so many titles you need TWO HOURS to read them all.
The feeling of validation when Legend put a campaign you struggle with into the "Brutal" tier is better than dad coming home from the store after 30 years.
Exaclty how I felt a noobie playing his first proper game today. Choose the fate weaver cause so many options and he seemed cool. Managed to conquer most of the map after a wobbly start, but man was it gratifying to know that my pain wasn’t just because I’m new to this!😅
I would say Golgcigarette belongs in Easy, the rework and especially his contract make him so insanely overtuned. Ironclaw's campaign can be very difficult sandwiched between Thorgrim Queek and Skragg i'd say top of hard Skulltaker is in the right place, Khorne is nuts strong
@@blurgalsklech2929once I get in my province 4 Throgg armies, one Archaon, 2 Daniel’s and 2 Azazel. And I didn’t even started first adventure. That was my first time and I still struggle in the 4 playtrough: if I deal with one faction, the other came in and catch me by the balls. Sometimes Slavs can beat rat, but last time I shoud’ve do it myself, after defeating Azazel and now I get a rat invasion (I take the Hell pit, but the just jumped their 3 armies into my territory) and 3 chaos dwarfes armies coming in. Soon I expect Daniel came in and Throgg. My second playthrough I tryed to deal with Theogg, but he have too many territories after the first turn, when he confederates some monkeys, also get Azazel in my ass, at least Throt is killed by slavs, but patriarch occupied settlement in my region and I couldnt rebuy it. Third time I almost beat Throg but shoud’ve deal with fucking annoying Daniel, who sends his armies into my territory every 3-4 turns. I beat him, but decided to help that lost Slav guy and beat Epidimius and after that beat Archaon, but get again fucking invasion by norscans. I just haven’t money to defend my main province from 2 sides while main lord chilling in the chaos wastes. Also fucking Tzeentch switched my settlement with dark elves so I started war with them too. Ah, yes, in that campaign I decided to fight small tzeentch faction, but got invaded by small slaaneshi faction, almost constantly. Fuck this shit
With Khalida, the assumption I've always had is "she'll get a rework when Neferata is added" with some special anti-vampire units and quests to wipe out vampires(possibly with a Tomb King rework that makes them less painfully slow to start). Maybe in another 7 years we'll have Neferata to justify that.
I'd say her campaign becomes extremely easy if you manage to beat Thoreks army as soon as possible in a manual battle ( its obviously going to be a decisive defeat no matter what army u have on auto resolve tho of course )
@@jonasfull Yeah, HOW do you beat Thorek's army on manual? Anyway, there are other strategies than just banking on such a battle. The one I've found is go Doom Glade - Rasetra- Temple of skulls(!). If you do it properly, you beat Kroqgar to it, then you can trade it to Kroqgar for an alliance, or even in some cases a vassalage. After that, double back and try to snipe Granite Massif or Mahrak, and trade that to Thorek for at the very least a non agression pact, but military alliance and vassalage is possible. During this, the Silver host will likely take your capital, but once you've covered your flanks you can deal with them...and now it leaves you with two covered flanks leaving you to deal with Queek.
@@AzoRevan Oh it was probably and still is the hardest manual battle of my life, the irony is i had to fight him like 6 times because everytime he runes away he fully replenishes without me being able to catch him so i had to defeat him many times until his actual army was gone. I really got the hang of killing him with my snake armies by then tho
Franz is a great campaign now BUT sadly it usually sucks towards the end because IF you do a good job then you keep Bret alive, Dwarfs alive, Ice Court alive and with you securing their backs they wipe out what should be your next threat so you are left there in the middle surrounded by allies ☹
@@fedorevdokimenko3978No because Kemmler can gangbang you in the beginning. If the player isn’t experienced with Empire they can be getting ambush stack wiped by Khazrak and then declared on by all their neighbors 1 by 1 if on a higher diff. Late game total snore fest now yeah, it’s just a bad balance right now as is
Given he has a sponsor, bet is he made the deal and video a while ago and uploaded it out of contractual obligation. Makes sense when you remember how late the DLC was finally announced.
Love these tierlists! Can only imagine the massive effort that goes into these vids, even with Legend's years of experience with and knowledge of the game.
Would’ve loved it to see you invite people who had early access to collab with the tier list for the new stuff. Love the tier lists, just tickles my brain to see creators I like doing stuff together
For Malakai I totally understand people saying he has a rough time, because while I agree his faction mechanics make any threat easy to deal with its the fact that he is being attacked from so many different angles and its really hard to defend the incredibly spread out territory. Every time I try a Malakai campaign I usually get frustrated and quit because no matter what direction I focus on I will always have two or three enemies from different directions declaring war and moving in on me the moment I dont have an army defending by their border. Norsca coming from the west, demons north, chorfs east and rats to the south, area so spread out it takes multiple turns to get between settlements so when an enemy decides to declare on you they usually have a couple turns before you can respond. The last time I tried his campaign I started by crippling thrott and azazel so kislev could handle them, then while focusing on the chorfs epidemius come out of nowhere and backdoored me. Time before that I handled azazel and norsca while holding off the demons to the north and astragoth sent a pain train up the coastline to wreck me. Its just too hard to hold off so many major threats from so many directions.
Katerina's campaign was a real slog for me. Every single regional enemy declared war on me from the start. I was fighting a never ending stream of defensive battles. I wasn't really able to seriously go on the offensive until around turn 90. Then I took great pleasure in cleansing chaos from the world.
I actually just use drukha every game in that region, lol. It's easy to force her into fight with someone if you give her land. Doing that forces her out of fighting empire and over allies as well so you get more friends on south border. Wth addition of malakai her campaign probably became much more easier
Something work mentioning in favor of Miao Ying is that the Northern Bastion wall-settlements significantly reduce the upkeep of the army garrisoned there… so you can pretty much just park a doomstack in each of them and hold for the entire game.
There is a cheese strat with Eltharion, if you capture the greenskin settlement in Ulthuan, you can choose the Expedition option, giving your capital to Tyrion, and gaining like 20k gold, but since your only settlement is still on Ulthuan you keep your 2 armies, allowing you to use that army to fight the green skins and secure a foothold on Ulthuan eventually either trading settlements to get back Tor Eyvress (however it's spelled) and carving into the badlands, using your army to reinforce Skarbrand as he fights orks allows you to chill and let him take all the damage then you fight him right after, and quickly take him out Confederating Tyrion or another high elf faction allows you to keep building up a home base while pushing into the badlands, it's more micro but allying with Settra means Araby generally is fine with you, allowing you to focus more on Greenskins and Skaven
Belakor also has a ticking clock pertaining to when the High Elves will declare war on him. Since they share sea borders with Cothique, it pretty much always happens. And if one HE faction declares, the rest will follow, and as a Chaos faction, peace is just not an option. Like it or not, youre doing yourself a favor if you start a Belakor campaign by either helping out Nkari and take the donut -whilst he still lives - or just migrate from Albion to somewhere else. Either those or you'll have to be content with elves doing a D-day on Albion from time to time. Same goes for most baddie factions around Thorgrim and Ungrim. Dwarfs (even as AI) are extremely overpowered now, and seem to be even more so with Omens dlc. Mid/endgame stacks on turn 20ish... good luck fighting those with goblins, clanrats and skeletons. So if you play say Vlad, Skarsnik, Gorbad, Tretch, Astragoth, etc. do yourself a favor and rush the dwarfs before they get like 3 endgame stacks and will knock on your door, quite possibly when its inconvinient for you.
I've never found high elves to be a problem at all with Belakor. I generally ignore them and if they declare war on me I can send a hero down and watch them and can always teleport back to my capital when I see them coming to me. I have ran multiple 100 plus turn Belakor campaign ands always ignored them, and never truly felt threatened by them.
@@ambermurray2496 yeah agreed, some belakor campaigns i've done you can go 70+ turns without ever even meeting the High Elves if you push hard east into norsca for many easy dark fortresses. nkari rarely wins the donut but can always be revived
Really appreciated this video, taking a hiatus from tww3 while sfo updates and playing poe2. These long form videos are really pleasant to listen to while working, so thanks for that. I'm curious to see how thorgrims start goes with wurzag being further away and the new walmart gorfang rotgut in black crag now
The funny thing to me is how the prologue guides players into playing one of the hardest factions/campaigns in the game. Sure, some people will pick Daniel after the prologue, but I'd wager more people would be interested in running a Kislev campaign than a Daniel one after that lead-in.
nah, because he'll have beastmen, undead, and goblins ignoring their nearest rivals and heading straight for him. Then Belakor will come in, and the Fecundites.
this may be true on lower difficulties but on legendary the sheer amount of enemies you have / armies you have to face is really brutal, especially in the early game and it's not a particularly satisfying campaign because if you do save the day, your allies then kinda surround you and give you not a lot to do
I'd say Karl is not beginner friendly anymore because of the quiet complicated faction mechanics. They are good and add depth, but might be overwhelming for new players.
You should make a video on how to start a Daniel the Daemon prince campaign. I am pretty new and I am struggling with the start even with normal difficulty.
Kairos is actually really strong once you manage to get through the early game. I tried him recently, confederating Sarthorael on turn 3 with some diplomacy shenanegans. I got a little ballsy sending Kairos to the east while building up an army for Sarthorael at Fateweaver's Crevasse, but I managed to manipulate diplomacy and changing of the ways enough to keep Teclis and Oxyotl at bay. Very tricky campaign start.
TBH I'd call Drycha's campaign easy. Nothing you meet in the first 30 turns has an answer for her starting Treeman so you can just fill up on cheap Dryads to buffer him and he'll solo all of Sylvania, and as soon as you complete your first ritual of rebirth you just sell all the settlements around your tree except Mordheim and the AI ignores it because it's not adjacent any more.
What makes Grom difficult is he's literally surrounded by enemies. Some being incredibly hard to deal with if you end up at war with them in the beginning. You have the potential to ally with Ikit claw but he just does his own thing rather than helping you deal with Britonia. He's def between hard and moderate due to his starting position and the enemies you have to face in order to secure your borders and claim a good chunk of land that won't get nabbed by some random legendary lord when you're not looking.
The key to Kairos campaign is rushing force peace. That way, you only fight people you actually want to fight. Also Scarbrand might receive a slight nerf in the new patch because you have to spend skulls now to get free armies, no big deal late game, but early on it can matter.
For belakor I always bumrush sigvald and rampage across the northern wastes, you might lose about a turn smashing sigvald up crossing the sea but you get a fortress and a new legendary lord instantly.
belakor campaign is great, he has so many early turn options. you can also try sending the exalted hero through the portal turn 1 to drycha and running him NW towards festus/khazrak, then open a gate, vassal the beastmen and confed festus early to knock out/subjugate franz. Or instead push hard east into norsca for early dark fortresses for huge eco
I've always felt that Vlad/Isabella is tougher than Manny these days, and Kemmler is easily the thoughest of all vampire campaigns on higher difficulties (since a certain greenskin is coming for you asap with 2-3 armies of better quality). As manny on the other hand it's pretty easy to deter the dwarfs and everyone else is a pushover thanks to Manny being able to bully lords/SEMs with his spirit leech and crush everyone else in hand to hand. With skaven I honestly find Tretch being one of the easier lords. His army is just so powerful when ambushing and depending on how your neightbours go it's relatively easy to work out a non-aggression pact with enemies to your east and west (and having the ocean/nagashizzar to your south as a buffer).
kemmler is super easy, u just build cav building and go for winds of death, use it to rush the dwarfs, get gravesite, you are now snowballing hard with a solid army (even without a gravesite a vamp army with 6 black knights and casters can eat all their neightbors early)
Thank you so much for creating this list. I'm not exactly great at Warhammer (okay fine, I'm actually rather awful at the game), so it's nice to see which campaigns I can start with, and which campaigns I can work towards as I get better with the game. It's also nice to know that it wasn't just me; some factions are just harder to play as than others!
A discrepancy I will point out is the difficulty of the Von Carstein campaign BEFORE Elspeth DLC and AFTER Elspeth DLC. BEFORE Elspeth DLC, I think the Von Carstein campaign was definitely in the easy category because the nearby empire minor factions really don't put up much of a fight. AFTER the Elspeth DLC, a Von Carstein player will now encounter one stack after another consisting of pistoliers, outriders, outriders with grenade launchers, warwagons, mortars, and an infantry complement. Usually, I would say just chase them down with direwolves (or whatever variant VC has), but there are just SO MANY outriders to deal with that they often were able to box in the direwolves. I often had to cheese things by just using trees to block the missile attacks while my zombies and skeletons chipped away at everything else with a holy lodestone corpsecart nearby. I turned many "decisive defeats" and "close defeats" into pyrrhic or heroic victories. Turns 10-20 were definitely a slog for me because I often had to juggle Elspeth and Karak Kadrin at the same time. Going from Warhammer 2's Von Carstein Campaign to Warhammer 3's Von Carstein campaign after the Elpseth DLC dropped was whiplash lol.
"the enemy simply doesn't travel by sea very often" *Meanwhile my friend who has to leave a garrison army every campaign because the maelstrom gets besieged every 3-4 turns* *1000 yard stare*
I managed to finish a dwarf campaign for the 1st time using Belegar (post-update), and it was satisfying. The key to success is the approach: First, kill your starting enemy. When confederation for minor dwarf faction is offered, take it, as it will save you recruitment money and you get a grudgethrower. Move south and declare on vampire coast that should've finished destroying their starting enemy by now, bait them into an ambush. After the main army is gone, take the city they were stationed in, then provoke the Skavenblight into attacking as well and wipe them out. Focus on killing the vampire coast, and sell your conquered cities with bad climate to Border Princes for some good money and other benefits. Wait for Skragg and Wurzag to come your way as they're killing Border Princes and kill their main armies one after another. By now you have enough money for 2 armies, so make your way clearing out both ogres and greenskins. After that, it's a hop skip and a jump to Karak 8 Peaks. The grudge settler armies helped alot.
I would put Tiktaq'to as hard for the early game because his initial settlements are a bit of a distance from each other so difficult to protect them all and you can be attacked on 3 sides with additional enemies potentially appearing in the latter part of the early game if Kairos comes up from the south and skarbrand comes down from the north. And now Wurzzag will be added to the mix.
Hey LOTW, been a longtime viewer but never commented. I would love it if you could do a multiplayer campaign tier list for all the factions. My buddy and I always have a hard time deciding on fair match ups, especially with the power creep. Thanks!
I watched the video and immediately wanted to try out the whole difficult level. I just don't understand the complexity of the Nagorronta. Thanks for the tier list and all the videos on the channel
Can we get a LL tier list after the DLC drops? The WH2 version is pretty outdated due to all the new editions and buffs for existing factions. Thanks legend
It's like you read my mind! I have just got back into TWWIII and was just thinking "I wonder who Legend thinks are easy/hard campaigns?" Going through Kairos on Normal difficulty (as I am not good enough for VeryHard/Legendary) and agree that it is super rough to start. started again after a test run and had a go at making a beeline for Teclis to nuke him then immediately toward Oxyotl. Teclis had to be cheesed HARD in that early battle and had to use the Changing of Ways carefully to squeeze him out (Force Rebellion is gold). After dealing with those two, it's largely been smooth sailing, even saved Sarthorael :)
Just got my king of kings achievement, playing as Khalida. And can confirm, pretty brutal, specially at the start. Your enemies's early units are far stronger than yours (specially because lizardman and dwarves love to declare on you), and it takes far too long to get a second army (that you generally need to keep alongside your first to stand a chance at fighting others because they are so much stronger), and ambush spamming can only get you so far.
Here's what I find is a strong start for kahlida. Capture upto rasetra, and then basically ignore the vampires and go into Ironbrows territory. If you time it right, and get the casket of souls, you can decimate Ironbrow. You can sometimes get a team up with the orcs, or you can hit him after he has fought the orcs. And then you have a strong mountain province. Then you can work your way back towards Lamia. By the time you finish, you can have three provinces and one of your main threats dealt with.
I will say, as the resident biggest lizard fan, Gor-Roks start position is at least slightly more difficult with Skulltaker so close to you. 9 times out of 10, Skulltaker makes a bee line straight for Itza and CAN completely wipe it out within the first 10 turns of you're not ready for him. Still pretty easy overall, though, especially once he and the rats are dealt with.
One thing that makes Mazdamundi's campaign harder (same goes for Yuan Bo once he controls that area) is that the Isthmus of Lustria is completely open to invasion from every side and everyone can and will sail towards you to sack all your minor settlements there.
The timing of this video seems interesting since not only will the DLC be out soon meaning most people don't have a hands on opinion of four legendary lords but also specifically in regards to the Ogers thanks to their new mechanics they might be much higher now
You can do mega cheese with Nakai that actually turns your campaign into point-and-click adventure game. And it’s super easy to do, just don’t declare wars straight up, join other people’s wars. Your vassal can’t join, nobody can declare on them so they just become invincible and you can take enemy settlements for free. It’s hilarious to watch like 5 skaven armies running around Cathay trying to catch your armies and if they lose all settlements the AI just gives up.
This man is a Total War Warhammer walking encyclopedia. It always amazed me how he streamed the game for 5-8 hours every day for years(minus off days of course). I wish I had that kind of enjoyment from or dedication to anything in life. Really, anything.
My Boris strat: burn everything all the way down until you reach the wall at Cathay and then move back down, but yes, does make the campaign pace pretty slow, although most settlements are usually not reoccupied by the time you start re-settling them.
I’ve managed to win campaigns with a few of the hard ranked Legendary Lords (before I knew they were hard) and they all felt like I was constantly on the knife’s edge of losing, with a dozen different fires to put out. Each time, the victory screen surprised me
Kairos is exceedingly manageable once you’ve unlocked force peace. 3 turns to refresh, a pittiance to use it, especially with a couple cults in the offender’s home base, and you can essentially just stunlock Oxyotl while you brutalize Teclis out of existence. From there, things only get worse for them as with enough cults you can use transfer settlement to ‘buy’ their hyper-militarized empire off them (you can also just throw a properly-prepared army at them if you’re skilled, but I’m on normal difficulty and the monster has three armies of elite dinosaurs so hell no to that) while you conquer the southern portions of not-Africa.
so this tier list is more focused on newer players i guess, if skarbrand and kairos is so low. But if that's the case why is ikit claw so high up? all the newer players constantly lose his campaigns due to skaven literally having the most complicated mechanics overload in the game ( also in my opinion Kostaltyns campaign is harder than all of these )
He didn't really seem to take into consideration how easy the different race mechanics are to learn. I think even some of the campaigns that are listed as "easy" can be hard for newer players if they don't really know how to best take advantage of the mechanics or units.
@@jonasfull This list is full of holes simply because Legend is on such a different level that his whole view of the game is different. Some of his "easy" campaigns are easy because he knows what to do. Otherwise a new player might get stomped.
I just want to say that for the Kairos campaign (VH/VH), I always conquer the east wastes before dealing with Oxy and Teclis. In all my campaigns (I essentially main Kairos, he’s my go-to campaign), by the time Kairos makes it back to the capital after securing the east, that’s when Oxy shows up, and Teclis hasn’t declared war just yet. I’m kinda proud that my favorite campaign turns out to be one of the most brutal ones though, I thought it was a fairly average start
After the 6.0.0 path, I can confirm that Markus campaign is super bloody brutal, now with the existence of skulltaker. You got lizardmen, you got orc, you got dark elf, you got rats, you got undead pirates, and on top of that now you got demon coming from the mountain. No survival campaign like Markus's campaign
as someone who just started playing Warhammer 3 recently only 30 hours in and i did few runs to like turn 60 small victory. this list is a great for me to pick and choose who to play next . for example sometimes i will pick brutal start get my ass kicked and then move to a more chill start lord. atm i picked Jade lord the one that does expidtion . i gave away my capital city so i can focus on expedition and got extra 20k gold
on Wulfrik: "AI Be'lakor doesn't usually do that (invade Wulfrik) i have to call bull. Be'lakor has always attacked me if i confederated my initial enemy as wulfrik. instead, i beat them, then blackmailed for peace and a good sum of money as i go east. but yeah, the maneaters likely starting next to wulfrik is gonna end that era
Thank you for the unbiased evaluation of VamPirates Will pay for a year of the ChildofTotalWar’s education at a prep school if you repeat this list someday…but for Old World map
Belegar and Umgrim suffer from one more thing, the movement distance between settlements are abnormally large, while as you mentionned surrounded by a ton of enemies with low income. That makes their campaign both quite brutal.
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Your mic sounded quite rough here during the rating.
You should definitely check that out Legend, I got a headache halfway through the video. Hope for you it's just settings and not the mic itself!
Hei, can you put in time stamps if not in this video but many in other similar videos?
Now that the DLC is out would you change the placement of any of the new lords?
1:42 Wood elves
6:35 Warriors of Chaos
15:03 Vampire Counts
19:49 Vampire Coast
23:38 Tzeentch
27:10 Tomb Kings
31:55 Slaanesh
33:05 Skaven
39:00 Ogre Kingdoms
40:52 Nurgle
44:04 Norsca
45:49 Lizardmen
52:25 Kislev
56:11 High elves
1:03:53 Khorne
1:05:34 Greenskins
1:09:44 Cathay
1:11:59 Empire
1:16:12 Dwarfs
1:20:51 Dark elves
1:25:41 The mighty DANIEL!
1:26:21 Chaos Dwarfs
1:28:34 Bretonnia
1:31:15 Beastmen
1:33:29 Omens of Destruction Lords DLC
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THIS ACTION DOES HAVE MY CONSENT!!!
I find it slightly interesting that he made it in reverse alphabetic order this time instead of the usual
The fact that you mistook Settra... Great King, the Imperishable, Khemrikhara, The Great King of Nehekhara, King of Kings, Opener of the Way, Wielder of the Divine Flame, Punisher of Nomads, The Great Unifier, Commander of the Golden Legion, Sacred of Appearance, Bringer of Light, Father of Hawks, Builder of Cities, Protector of the Two Worlds, Keeper of the Hours, Chosen of Ptra, High Steward of the Horizon, Sailor of the Great Vitae, Sentinel of the Two Realms, The Undisputed, Begetter of the Begat, Scourge of the Faithless, Carrion-feeder, First of the Charnel Valley, Rider of the Sacred Chariot, Vanquisher of Vermin, Champion of the Death Arena, Mighty Lion of the Infinite Desert, Emperor of the Shifting Sands, He Who Holds The Sceptre, Great Hawk Of The Heavens, Arch-Sultan of Atalan, Waker of the Hierotitan, Monarch of the Sky, Majestic Emperor of the Shifting Sands, Champion of the Desert Gods, Breaker of the Ogre Clans, Builder of the Great Pyramid, Terror of the Living, Master of the Never-Ending Horizon, Master of the Necropolises, Taker of Souls, Tyrant to the Foolish, Bearer of Ptra's Holy Blade, Scion of Usirian, Scion of Nehek, The Great, Chaser of Nightmares, Keeper of the Royal Herat, Founder of the Mortuary Cult, Banisher of the Grand Hierophant, High Lord Admiral of the Deathfleets, Guardian of the Charnal Pass, Tamer of the Liche King, Unliving Jackal Lord, Dismisser of the Warrior Queen, Charioteer of the Gods, He Who Does Not Serve, Slayer off Reddittras, Scarab Purger, Favoured of Usirian, Player of the Great Game, Liberator of Life, Lord Sand, Wrangler of Scorpions, Emperor of the Dunes, Eternal Sovereign of Khemri's Legions, Seneschal of the Great Sandy Desert, Curserer of the Living, Regent of the Eastern Mountains, Warden of the Eternal Necropolis, Herald of all Heralds, Caller of the Bitter Wind, God-Tamer, Master of the Mortis River, Guardian of the Dead, Great Keeper of the Obelisks, Deacon of the Ash River, Belated of Wakers, General of the Mighty Frame, Summoner of Sandstorms, Master of all Necrotects, Prince of Dust, Tyrant of Araby, Purger of the Greenskin Breathers, Killer of the False God's Champions, Tyrant of the Gold Dunes, Golden Bone Lord, Avenger of the Dead, Carrion Master, Eternal Warden of Nehek's Lands, Breaker of Djaf's Bonds... and many, many more... for Khatep... is disappointing...
LegendofTotalWar should bow to Settra the Great King, the Imperishable, Khemrikhara, The Great King of Nehekhara, King of Kings, Opener of the Way, Wielder of the Divine Flame, Punisher of Nomads, The Great Unifier, Commander of the Golden Legion, Sacred of Appearance, Bringer of Light, Father of Hawks, Builder of Cities, Protector of the Two Worlds, Keeper of the Hours, Chosen of Ptra, High Steward of the Horizon, Sailor of the Great Vitae, Sentinel of the Two Realms, The Undisputed, Begetter of the Begat, Scourge of the Faithless, Carrion-feeder, First of the Charnel Valley, Rider of the Sacred Chariot, Vanquisher of Vermin, Champion of the Death Arena, Mighty Lion of the Infinite Desert, Emperor of the Shifting Sands, He Who Holds The Sceptre, Great Hawk Of The Heavens, Arch-Sultan of Atalan, Waker of the Hierotitan, Monarch of the Sky, Majestic Emperor of the Shifting Sands, Champion of the Desert Gods, Breaker of the Ogre Clans, Builder of the Great Pyramid, Terror of the Living, Master of the Never-Ending Horizon, Master of the Necropolises, Taker of Souls, Tyrant to the Foolish, Bearer of Ptra's Holy Blade, Scion of Usirian, Scion of Nehek, The Great, Chaser of Nightmares, Keeper of the Royal Herat, Founder of the Mortuary Cult, Banisher of the Grand Hierophant, High Lord Admiral of the Deathfleets, Guardian of the Charnal Pass, Tamer of the Liche King, Unliving Jackal Lord, Dismisser of the Warrior Queen, Charioteer of the Gods, He Who Does Not Serve, Slayer off Reddittras, Scarab Purger, Favoured of Usirian, Player of the Great Game, Liberator of Life, Lord Sand, Wrangler of Scorpions, Emperor of the Dunes, Eternal Sovereign of Khemri's Legions, Seneschal of the Great Sandy Desert, Curserer of the Living, Regent of the Eastern Mountains, Warden of the Eternal Necropolis, Herald of all Heralds, Caller of the Bitter Wind, God-Tamer, Master of the Mortis River, Guardian of the Dead, Great Keeper of the Obelisks, Deacon of the Ash River, Belated of Wakers, General of the Mighty Frame, Summoner of Sandstorms, Master of all Necrotects, Prince of Dust, Tyrant of Araby, Purger of the Greenskin Breathers, Killer of the False God's Champions, Tyrant of the Gold Dunes, Golden Bone Lord, Avenger of the Dead, Carrion Master, Eternal Warden of Nehek's Lands, Breaker of Djaf's Bonds and beg for his forgiveness for this heretical mistake.
JESUS! No way he actually has that many titles??
@@Elzeoo Not only he does have those titles, it's not even a full version. According to tabletop, Settra got so many titles you need TWO HOURS to read them all.
@@XellosDarkSlayer, Settra out here trying to give Khaleesi a run for her money lmao
@@XellosDarkSlayer That is one hell of a display of power, lmao!
The feeling of validation when Legend put a campaign you struggle with into the "Brutal" tier is better than dad coming home from the store after 30 years.
nice
Exaclty how I felt a noobie playing his first proper game today. Choose the fate weaver cause so many options and he seemed cool. Managed to conquer most of the map after a wobbly start, but man was it gratifying to know that my pain wasn’t just because I’m new to this!😅
I would say Golgcigarette belongs in Easy, the rework and especially his contract make him so insanely overtuned.
Ironclaw's campaign can be very difficult sandwiched between Thorgrim Queek and Skragg i'd say top of hard
Skulltaker is in the right place, Khorne is nuts strong
@@Okoii you agree with Malakai as an easy faction? I always get fucked by all the surrounding Chaos factions.
@@WinXitheP00h I haven't played much malakai, but I did find that you can just pack up and leave.
@@WinXitheP00hMalakai is super easy for me. I can see where people don’t handle the multiple fronts well though.
@@blurgalsklech2929once I get in my province 4 Throgg armies, one Archaon, 2 Daniel’s and 2 Azazel. And I didn’t even started first adventure. That was my first time and I still struggle in the 4 playtrough: if I deal with one faction, the other came in and catch me by the balls. Sometimes Slavs can beat rat, but last time I shoud’ve do it myself, after defeating Azazel and now I get a rat invasion (I take the Hell pit, but the just jumped their 3 armies into my territory) and 3 chaos dwarfes armies coming in. Soon I expect Daniel came in and Throgg.
My second playthrough I tryed to deal with Theogg, but he have too many territories after the first turn, when he confederates some monkeys, also get Azazel in my ass, at least Throt is killed by slavs, but patriarch occupied settlement in my region and I couldnt rebuy it.
Third time I almost beat Throg but shoud’ve deal with fucking annoying Daniel, who sends his armies into my territory every 3-4 turns. I beat him, but decided to help that lost Slav guy and beat Epidimius and after that beat Archaon, but get again fucking invasion by norscans. I just haven’t money to defend my main province from 2 sides while main lord chilling in the chaos wastes. Also fucking Tzeentch switched my settlement with dark elves so I started war with them too. Ah, yes, in that campaign I decided to fight small tzeentch faction, but got invaded by small slaaneshi faction, almost constantly. Fuck this shit
Skill issue @@WinXitheP00h
microphone tier list when?
I thought it was just me
Brutal. Ears bleeding.
a potato would have been better.
Audio is a bit scratchy in this one.
I agree.
Sounds a bit 2008e
Sounds like his cable needs a slight wiggle, that's all :)
Oh damn I thought those were my old bluetooth headphones dying on me! Thank you :D
Yep, it's the rat squeel, he must have been playing Ikit just before this one.
With Khalida, the assumption I've always had is "she'll get a rework when Neferata is added" with some special anti-vampire units and quests to wipe out vampires(possibly with a Tomb King rework that makes them less painfully slow to start). Maybe in another 7 years we'll have Neferata to justify that.
I'd say her campaign becomes extremely easy if you manage to beat Thoreks army as soon as possible in a manual battle ( its obviously going to be a decisive defeat no matter what army u have on auto resolve tho of course )
@@jonasfull Yeah, HOW do you beat Thorek's army on manual? Anyway, there are other strategies than just banking on such a battle. The one I've found is go Doom Glade - Rasetra- Temple of skulls(!). If you do it properly, you beat Kroqgar to it, then you can trade it to Kroqgar for an alliance, or even in some cases a vassalage. After that, double back and try to snipe Granite Massif or Mahrak, and trade that to Thorek for at the very least a non agression pact, but military alliance and vassalage is possible. During this, the Silver host will likely take your capital, but once you've covered your flanks you can deal with them...and now it leaves you with two covered flanks leaving you to deal with Queek.
@@AzoRevan Oh it was probably and still is the hardest manual battle of my life, the irony is i had to fight him like 6 times because everytime he runes away he fully replenishes without me being able to catch him so i had to defeat him many times until his actual army was gone. I really got the hang of killing him with my snake armies by then tho
Franz is a great campaign now BUT sadly it usually sucks towards the end because IF you do a good job then you keep Bret alive, Dwarfs alive, Ice Court alive and with you securing their backs they wipe out what should be your next threat so you are left there in the middle surrounded by allies ☹
That means the campaign is easy. In fact Empire has great units, economy, tech tree, many allies. Only the total war beginner can lose such campaign.
Literally what happened when I played elspeth. Had no enemies within 3 turns of my borders, like uggggg
@@fedorevdokimenko3978No because Kemmler can gangbang you in the beginning. If the player isn’t experienced with Empire they can be getting ambush stack wiped by Khazrak and then declared on by all their neighbors 1 by 1 if on a higher diff.
Late game total snore fest now yeah, it’s just a bad balance right now as is
At that point, I'll take a leaf out of Bretonnia's book and go on a crusade to either the Chaos Wastes or the Badlands
Easy solution, make war on allies
Just remember, if your name isn't Legend, all of these are probably one tier lower.
or his tier list is dogshit
corner-camping do be like that
If they're all a tier lower, then does that mean they're all the same tier still relative to each other?
@@MrBlueSleeves relatively they remain constant, absolutely they all get harder.
outside of warriors of chaos absolutely true, WoC are just a step above everyone else imo
There will be more tierlists soon, considering the upcoming dlc. I am so excited!
Dear ca: Please give Teclis the gelt treatment. Pimp our guy plz
Desperately needs a skill tree rework. Only direct damage spell is chain lightning, crazy stuff.
@@anthroposmetron4475 the skill tree is the least of his worries
@@anthroposmetron4475huh? Is Flock of doom a joke to you?
I mean I definitely agree but good lord would that make kairos’ start so much more difficult 😭
@@gotmilk5899 And it's already quite bad with no wall to back up against and Oxy with a good run up towards you.
legend grabbed the 2000s mic for this one 🔥🔥
I want him to do a video with his pre-puberty voice from back around 2013 😂
Bro finished puberty at 25 💀
Isn't he like 35? How was he a prepube at 25 years old 😂😂
@@ScentSense One of the mysteries of the world. Legends voice aged 10 years between 2 particular videos if you go back far enough and it's hilarious
Thought I was going crazy 😂😂😂
Never feel bad about ur videos being long it really is a privilege to hear your thoughts on things like this
Kinda weird time for this tier list as a big patch comes in two days with 4 new factions, moving one faction and so on...
Given he has a sponsor, bet is he made the deal and video a while ago and uploaded it out of contractual obligation.
Makes sense when you remember how late the DLC was finally announced.
Love these tierlists! Can only imagine the massive effort that goes into these vids, even with Legend's years of experience with and knowledge of the game.
I enjoy these tier list videos and usually find myself coming back to them.
Good work mate, can't believe I've been watching your content for almost 10 years now. Hope all is well for you!
Hell yeah, i love tier lists. I don't have much to learn from disaster battles and stuff anymore but i never get bored of tier lists.
Would’ve loved it to see you invite people who had early access to collab with the tier list for the new stuff. Love the tier lists, just tickles my brain to see creators I like doing stuff together
For Malakai I totally understand people saying he has a rough time, because while I agree his faction mechanics make any threat easy to deal with its the fact that he is being attacked from so many different angles and its really hard to defend the incredibly spread out territory. Every time I try a Malakai campaign I usually get frustrated and quit because no matter what direction I focus on I will always have two or three enemies from different directions declaring war and moving in on me the moment I dont have an army defending by their border. Norsca coming from the west, demons north, chorfs east and rats to the south, area so spread out it takes multiple turns to get between settlements so when an enemy decides to declare on you they usually have a couple turns before you can respond. The last time I tried his campaign I started by crippling thrott and azazel so kislev could handle them, then while focusing on the chorfs epidemius come out of nowhere and backdoored me. Time before that I handled azazel and norsca while holding off the demons to the north and astragoth sent a pain train up the coastline to wreck me. Its just too hard to hold off so many major threats from so many directions.
That audio took me back 15 years ago 😆😆
Jokes aside, great video!!
Katerina's campaign was a real slog for me. Every single regional enemy declared war on me from the start. I was fighting a never ending stream of defensive battles. I wasn't really able to seriously go on the offensive until around turn 90. Then I took great pleasure in cleansing chaos from the world.
I actually just use drukha every game in that region, lol. It's easy to force her into fight with someone if you give her land. Doing that forces her out of fighting empire and over allies as well so you get more friends on south border. Wth addition of malakai her campaign probably became much more easier
Something work mentioning in favor of Miao Ying is that the Northern Bastion wall-settlements significantly reduce the upkeep of the army garrisoned there… so you can pretty much just park a doomstack in each of them and hold for the entire game.
There is a cheese strat with Eltharion, if you capture the greenskin settlement in Ulthuan, you can choose the Expedition option, giving your capital to Tyrion, and gaining like 20k gold, but since your only settlement is still on Ulthuan you keep your 2 armies, allowing you to use that army to fight the green skins and secure a foothold on Ulthuan eventually either trading settlements to get back Tor Eyvress (however it's spelled) and carving into the badlands, using your army to reinforce Skarbrand as he fights orks allows you to chill and let him take all the damage then you fight him right after, and quickly take him out
Confederating Tyrion or another high elf faction allows you to keep building up a home base while pushing into the badlands, it's more micro but allying with Settra means Araby generally is fine with you, allowing you to focus more on Greenskins and Skaven
Can’t wait for the next faction strength tier list!
Belakor also has a ticking clock pertaining to when the High Elves will declare war on him. Since they share sea borders with Cothique, it pretty much always happens. And if one HE faction declares, the rest will follow, and as a Chaos faction, peace is just not an option.
Like it or not, youre doing yourself a favor if you start a Belakor campaign by either helping out Nkari and take the donut -whilst he still lives - or just migrate from Albion to somewhere else. Either those or you'll have to be content with elves doing a D-day on Albion from time to time.
Same goes for most baddie factions around Thorgrim and Ungrim. Dwarfs (even as AI) are extremely overpowered now, and seem to be even more so with Omens dlc. Mid/endgame stacks on turn 20ish... good luck fighting those with goblins, clanrats and skeletons. So if you play say Vlad, Skarsnik, Gorbad, Tretch, Astragoth, etc. do yourself a favor and rush the dwarfs before they get like 3 endgame stacks and will knock on your door, quite possibly when its inconvinient for you.
I've never found high elves to be a problem at all with Belakor. I generally ignore them and if they declare war on me I can send a hero down and watch them and can always teleport back to my capital when I see them coming to me. I have ran multiple 100 plus turn Belakor campaign ands always ignored them, and never truly felt threatened by them.
@@ambermurray2496 yeah agreed, some belakor campaigns i've done you can go 70+ turns without ever even meeting the High Elves if you push hard east into norsca for many easy dark fortresses. nkari rarely wins the donut but can always be revived
Really appreciated this video, taking a hiatus from tww3 while sfo updates and playing poe2. These long form videos are really pleasant to listen to while working, so thanks for that. I'm curious to see how thorgrims start goes with wurzag being further away and the new walmart gorfang rotgut in black crag now
You could also make an update to the tier list somewhere down the line, moving around the relevant factions
Amazing video dude, I love these long tier lists that you make. Always super insightful and helpful.
The funny thing to me is how the prologue guides players into playing one of the hardest factions/campaigns in the game. Sure, some people will pick Daniel after the prologue, but I'd wager more people would be interested in running a Kislev campaign than a Daniel one after that lead-in.
Karl Franz = Too Easy = Very Very Recomended for New Player
level easy is simple
nah, because he'll have beastmen, undead, and goblins ignoring their nearest rivals and heading straight for him. Then Belakor will come in, and the Fecundites.
this may be true on lower difficulties but on legendary the sheer amount of enemies you have / armies you have to face is really brutal, especially in the early game
and it's not a particularly satisfying campaign because if you do save the day, your allies then kinda surround you and give you not a lot to do
I'd say Karl is not beginner friendly anymore because of the quiet complicated faction mechanics. They are good and add depth, but might be overwhelming for new players.
it is a sarcasm guys.. i said it because karl franz is hard but have a recomended icon.. many new players fall for this trap
I'm not even playing that much any more, but if you did one 60' tier list every day, I would still watch them twice. Love you mate!
You should make a video on how to start a Daniel the Daemon prince campaign. I am pretty new and I am struggling with the start even with normal difficulty.
Great video, i wouldve liked to see a Warhammer 2 version of this. Also, the audio is scuffed and sounds like it was recorded ina box.
Maybe it was? Times are hard...
I think he did something similar for wh2
Kairos is actually really strong once you manage to get through the early game. I tried him recently, confederating Sarthorael on turn 3 with some diplomacy shenanegans. I got a little ballsy sending Kairos to the east while building up an army for Sarthorael at Fateweaver's Crevasse, but I managed to manipulate diplomacy and changing of the ways enough to keep Teclis and Oxyotl at bay. Very tricky campaign start.
TBH I'd call Drycha's campaign easy. Nothing you meet in the first 30 turns has an answer for her starting Treeman so you can just fill up on cheap Dryads to buffer him and he'll solo all of Sylvania, and as soon as you complete your first ritual of rebirth you just sell all the settlements around your tree except Mordheim and the AI ignores it because it's not adjacent any more.
I think Drycha is a she
1 hour and 38 minute legend video? Fuck yes
Simp detected
Man, I was re-listening to the campaign review playlist when this dropped, what a gift. Thank you Legend 🙏
Legend I appteciate the work you do! Thanks for hours of free content!
I still remember my first campaign in warhammer 2. Thought it was nice to start of woth belegar. Feels great to see it in the brutal range.
Great vid!
What makes Grom difficult is he's literally surrounded by enemies. Some being incredibly hard to deal with if you end up at war with them in the beginning. You have the potential to ally with Ikit claw but he just does his own thing rather than helping you deal with Britonia. He's def between hard and moderate due to his starting position and the enemies you have to face in order to secure your borders and claim a good chunk of land that won't get nabbed by some random legendary lord when you're not looking.
The key to Kairos campaign is rushing force peace. That way, you only fight people you actually want to fight.
Also Scarbrand might receive a slight nerf in the new patch because you have to spend skulls now to get free armies, no big deal late game, but early on it can matter.
man , I still live in total war 2 and you content on it, that is very good
Really thanks for this legend quality video.
For belakor I always bumrush sigvald and rampage across the northern wastes, you might lose about a turn smashing sigvald up crossing the sea but you get a fortress and a new legendary lord instantly.
belakor campaign is great, he has so many early turn options. you can also try sending the exalted hero through the portal turn 1 to drycha and running him NW towards festus/khazrak, then open a gate, vassal the beastmen and confed festus early to knock out/subjugate franz. Or instead push hard east into norsca for early dark fortresses for huge eco
I've always felt that Vlad/Isabella is tougher than Manny these days, and Kemmler is easily the thoughest of all vampire campaigns on higher difficulties (since a certain greenskin is coming for you asap with 2-3 armies of better quality).
As manny on the other hand it's pretty easy to deter the dwarfs and everyone else is a pushover thanks to Manny being able to bully lords/SEMs with his spirit leech and crush everyone else in hand to hand.
With skaven I honestly find Tretch being one of the easier lords. His army is just so powerful when ambushing and depending on how your neightbours go it's relatively easy to work out a non-aggression pact with enemies to your east and west (and having the ocean/nagashizzar to your south as a buffer).
kemmler is super easy, u just build cav building and go for winds of death, use it to rush the dwarfs, get gravesite, you are now snowballing hard with a solid army (even without a gravesite a vamp army with 6 black knights and casters can eat all their neightbors early)
Thank you so much for creating this list. I'm not exactly great at Warhammer (okay fine, I'm actually rather awful at the game), so it's nice to see which campaigns I can start with, and which campaigns I can work towards as I get better with the game. It's also nice to know that it wasn't just me; some factions are just harder to play as than others!
I seen your other tierlists thanks man great video 👍
Agree with the ones I’ve fully played so far (about 9 of them). Good stuff, gives me a list to work through for a challenge.
A discrepancy I will point out is the difficulty of the Von Carstein campaign BEFORE Elspeth DLC and AFTER Elspeth DLC. BEFORE Elspeth DLC, I think the Von Carstein campaign was definitely in the easy category because the nearby empire minor factions really don't put up much of a fight. AFTER the Elspeth DLC, a Von Carstein player will now encounter one stack after another consisting of pistoliers, outriders, outriders with grenade launchers, warwagons, mortars, and an infantry complement. Usually, I would say just chase them down with direwolves (or whatever variant VC has), but there are just SO MANY outriders to deal with that they often were able to box in the direwolves. I often had to cheese things by just using trees to block the missile attacks while my zombies and skeletons chipped away at everything else with a holy lodestone corpsecart nearby. I turned many "decisive defeats" and "close defeats" into pyrrhic or heroic victories. Turns 10-20 were definitely a slog for me because I often had to juggle Elspeth and Karak Kadrin at the same time. Going from Warhammer 2's Von Carstein Campaign to Warhammer 3's Von Carstein campaign after the Elpseth DLC dropped was whiplash lol.
Hey legend, you need to take a break some times dude, recording on the toilet shows your passion for your work.
I love your tierlists :)
"the enemy simply doesn't travel by sea very often"
*Meanwhile my friend who has to leave a garrison army every campaign because the maelstrom gets besieged every 3-4 turns*
*1000 yard stare*
I managed to finish a dwarf campaign for the 1st time using Belegar (post-update), and it was satisfying. The key to success is the approach:
First, kill your starting enemy.
When confederation for minor dwarf faction is offered, take it, as it will save you recruitment money and you get a grudgethrower.
Move south and declare on vampire coast that should've finished destroying their starting enemy by now, bait them into an ambush.
After the main army is gone, take the city they were stationed in, then provoke the Skavenblight into attacking as well and wipe them out.
Focus on killing the vampire coast, and sell your conquered cities with bad climate to Border Princes for some good money and other benefits.
Wait for Skragg and Wurzag to come your way as they're killing Border Princes and kill their main armies one after another.
By now you have enough money for 2 armies, so make your way clearing out both ogres and greenskins.
After that, it's a hop skip and a jump to Karak 8 Peaks.
The grudge settler armies helped alot.
tbh this kind of Tier Lists content is the best idea for streaming
Mom, a new tier list is out!
I would put Tiktaq'to as hard for the early game because his initial settlements are a bit of a distance from each other so difficult to protect them all and you can be attacked on 3 sides with additional enemies potentially appearing in the latter part of the early game if Kairos comes up from the south and skarbrand comes down from the north. And now Wurzzag will be added to the mix.
Hey LOTW, been a longtime viewer but never commented. I would love it if you could do a multiplayer campaign tier list for all the factions. My buddy and I always have a hard time deciding on fair match ups, especially with the power creep. Thanks!
These are my favorite videos! Thank you
I watched the video and immediately wanted to try out the whole difficult level. I just don't understand the complexity of the Nagorronta. Thanks for the tier list and all the videos on the channel
So I got myself the big main Manscaped package, let's see how will it perform. Thanks Legend for a discount!
Just wrapping up my first ikit claw campaign this video came out at the perfect moment. RUN! RUN! MANTHINGS! SKAVENBLIGHT's GREATEST-BEST INVENTOR!
Can we get a LL tier list after the DLC drops? The WH2 version is pretty outdated due to all the new editions and buffs for existing factions. Thanks legend
Would really like to see your take on Gorbad. I genuinely find his campaign rather hard.
Thanks for the vid, Legend!
It's like you read my mind! I have just got back into TWWIII and was just thinking "I wonder who Legend thinks are easy/hard campaigns?"
Going through Kairos on Normal difficulty (as I am not good enough for VeryHard/Legendary) and agree that it is super rough to start. started again after a test run and had a go at making a beeline for Teclis to nuke him then immediately toward Oxyotl.
Teclis had to be cheesed HARD in that early battle and had to use the Changing of Ways carefully to squeeze him out (Force Rebellion is gold). After dealing with those two, it's largely been smooth sailing, even saved Sarthorael :)
Love it!
Have you considered a landmark building tier list?
You should do a faction soundtrack tier list. The skaven battle music is so good.
Just got my king of kings achievement, playing as Khalida. And can confirm, pretty brutal, specially at the start.
Your enemies's early units are far stronger than yours (specially because lizardman and dwarves love to declare on you), and it takes far too long to get a second army (that you generally need to keep alongside your first to stand a chance at fighting others because they are so much stronger), and ambush spamming can only get you so far.
great video as always, wuld like to see a vilitch/ khloek stream sometime
Belegar before capturing Karak Eight Peaks : PAIN as always
Excellent video ty
Here's what I find is a strong start for kahlida. Capture upto rasetra, and then basically ignore the vampires and go into Ironbrows territory. If you time it right, and get the casket of souls, you can decimate Ironbrow. You can sometimes get a team up with the orcs, or you can hit him after he has fought the orcs. And then you have a strong mountain province. Then you can work your way back towards Lamia. By the time you finish, you can have three provinces and one of your main threats dealt with.
Amazing microphone quality today Legend lmao
I will say, as the resident biggest lizard fan, Gor-Roks start position is at least slightly more difficult with Skulltaker so close to you. 9 times out of 10, Skulltaker makes a bee line straight for Itza and CAN completely wipe it out within the first 10 turns of you're not ready for him. Still pretty easy overall, though, especially once he and the rats are dealt with.
let's gooo, thanks for the Teir List!
One thing that makes Mazdamundi's campaign harder (same goes for Yuan Bo once he controls that area) is that the Isthmus of Lustria is completely open to invasion from every side and everyone can and will sail towards you to sack all your minor settlements there.
Since corn got an update it might be a good idea to do a unit roster list again
Interesting you made a tier list right before a major update.
The timing of this video seems interesting since not only will the DLC be out soon meaning most people don't have a hands on opinion of four legendary lords but also specifically in regards to the Ogers thanks to their new mechanics they might be much higher now
You can do mega cheese with Nakai that actually turns your campaign into point-and-click adventure game. And it’s super easy to do, just don’t declare wars straight up, join other people’s wars. Your vassal can’t join, nobody can declare on them so they just become invincible and you can take enemy settlements for free. It’s hilarious to watch like 5 skaven armies running around Cathay trying to catch your armies and if they lose all settlements the AI just gives up.
This man is a Total War Warhammer walking encyclopedia. It always amazed me how he streamed the game for 5-8 hours every day for years(minus off days of course). I wish I had that kind of enjoyment from or dedication to anything in life. Really, anything.
I just read a post in reddit about this exact question and you were mentioned as well! (Regarding malakai's campaign)
My Boris strat: burn everything all the way down until you reach the wall at Cathay and then move back down, but yes, does make the campaign pace pretty slow, although most settlements are usually not reoccupied by the time you start re-settling them.
If only legend knew about skulltakers cheese
I’ve managed to win campaigns with a few of the hard ranked Legendary Lords (before I knew they were hard) and they all felt like I was constantly on the knife’s edge of losing, with a dozen different fires to put out. Each time, the victory screen surprised me
Kairos is exceedingly manageable once you’ve unlocked force peace. 3 turns to refresh, a pittiance to use it, especially with a couple cults in the offender’s home base, and you can essentially just stunlock Oxyotl while you brutalize Teclis out of existence. From there, things only get worse for them as with enough cults you can use transfer settlement to ‘buy’ their hyper-militarized empire off them (you can also just throw a properly-prepared army at them if you’re skilled, but I’m on normal difficulty and the monster has three armies of elite dinosaurs so hell no to that) while you conquer the southern portions of not-Africa.
The hardest challenge is to take a shot each time legend says "easy" in this video.
so this tier list is more focused on newer players i guess, if skarbrand and kairos is so low. But if that's the case why is ikit claw so high up? all the newer players constantly lose his campaigns due to skaven literally having the most complicated mechanics overload in the game ( also in my opinion Kostaltyns campaign is harder than all of these )
He didn't really seem to take into consideration how easy the different race mechanics are to learn. I think even some of the campaigns that are listed as "easy" can be hard for newer players if they don't really know how to best take advantage of the mechanics or units.
@Bort-hv2lt Its just weird he would take that into consideration for Skarbrand but not ikit
@@jonasfull This list is full of holes simply because Legend is on such a different level that his whole view of the game is different.
Some of his "easy" campaigns are easy because he knows what to do. Otherwise a new player might get stomped.
1:13:03 what does legend mean by you can eventually “turn off” his mechanic? I can’t find anything about it anywhere. Thanks guys!
I just want to say that for the Kairos campaign (VH/VH), I always conquer the east wastes before dealing with Oxy and Teclis. In all my campaigns (I essentially main Kairos, he’s my go-to campaign), by the time Kairos makes it back to the capital after securing the east, that’s when Oxy shows up, and Teclis hasn’t declared war just yet.
I’m kinda proud that my favorite campaign turns out to be one of the most brutal ones though, I thought it was a fairly average start
After the 6.0.0 path, I can confirm that Markus campaign is super bloody brutal, now with the existence of skulltaker. You got lizardmen, you got orc, you got dark elf, you got rats, you got undead pirates, and on top of that now you got demon coming from the mountain. No survival campaign like Markus's campaign
not to mention that you have to deal with public order penalties and lizardmen spawn due to his faction mechanic. This guy is a masochist
as someone who just started playing Warhammer 3 recently only 30 hours in and i did few runs to like turn 60 small victory. this list is a great for me to pick and choose who to play next . for example sometimes i will pick brutal start get my ass kicked and then move to a more chill start lord. atm i picked Jade lord the one that does expidtion . i gave away my capital city so i can focus on expedition and got extra 20k gold
on Wulfrik: "AI Be'lakor doesn't usually do that (invade Wulfrik)
i have to call bull. Be'lakor has always attacked me if i confederated my initial enemy as wulfrik. instead, i beat them, then blackmailed for peace and a good sum of money as i go east. but yeah, the maneaters likely starting next to wulfrik is gonna end that era
For all the ones you put as hardest, you should now do a live stream for each
We are ready for 4 new Livestreams!
Thank you for the unbiased evaluation of VamPirates
Will pay for a year of the ChildofTotalWar’s education at a prep school if you repeat this list someday…but for Old World map
the fact you called a noctilus campaign easy baffels me, taking the donut with him is hell
Belegar and Umgrim suffer from one more thing, the movement distance between settlements are abnormally large, while as you mentionned surrounded by a ton of enemies with low income.
That makes their campaign both quite brutal.