I use a similar laptop with Krita sometimes and was wondering why my strokes kept disappearing! Thanks for the tip on the default multi-touch settings to change in Krita.
I did this research too. I bought an Acer Chromebook Spin 314-1H with UHD graphics and a separate USI stylus (there are many). The android Krita is not so great. Infinite Painter performance is OK. Artflow is wonderful! Above all, reading Webtoons on a 14" tablet is a joy!
Thank you for your review ! I love Krita, and I use it with a surface pro 7, which is great. However, I still find Kirta really lacks a support for mobile devices that don't have a keyboard attached, a bit as procreate I guess. Because as you said, not having a keyboard around is really hard using Krita. Hope they do release some way to have a touch integration that is better in the future. Still a great open source software.
Merci. Je vais regarder tous les settings de Krita dont tu as parlé c'est vraiment super. J'ai acheté il y a 3 semaine un Lenovo yoga x390. J'ai essayé quelques distributions de Linux et celle qui a fonctionné le mieux pour les gestes sur l'écran avec les doigts etvle stylus c'est Zorin 17. Pour le clavier virtuel jai ajouté l'extension de GNOME "improved OSK" qui est plus facile à utiliser que onboard
Merci pour les retours et partage de tests! Oui, une année est passé depuis, et le monde de Linux à de plus en plus un meilleur support pour le clavier virtuel et le touch. Vivement que ça soit sur toute les distro.
thanks for sharing your hardware findings! i have given up on portable devices, since all we had was apple or android, both make great products, but neither at the price nor removable batteries i wanted.
I bought a used Lenovo ThinkPad Yoga S1 12,5" a few years ago for 300$ and it's still working great for everything, including drawing. It's from 2014 and came with a passive digitizer pen (I bought different one that is bigger and more comfortable), sadly battery life is not good, I can squeeze 2-2,5h max out of it, but usually it's actually less. I'm tempted to try out Linux on it, will see.
I love Krita for this stuff, I use it on my Android tablet all the time. They still have a little work to do on the interface, but it's quite usable and incredibly intuitive.
@@urod7149It's closed-source software that you pay for, and it's the best and most popular painting software ever made. That's CLIP STUDIO PAINT. You're just a Stahlmann's witness. Get a life.
Great video. I am currently looking into tablets I can run linux on and draw on, but havent been very successfull yet. It's such an edge use case that its diffcult to get any usefull info. For example some claim you can run Fedora on a Galaxy S8 Tablet while others claim that's only possible with significant performance hits. Might just take a second look into the yoga-series
Pretty curious is that the android version of Krita manages well the touch gestures (i'm usually using it on a s8+ tab). They almos adapted it to work with pen gestures as well. On desktop versions, on W10 and Linux, it doesn't work that well.
Gpod mobile digital painting options are rrally hard to come by right now, especially on a budget. Great video, but wow that's a lot of hurdles to jump through. Admittedly, I'm also tech dumb so there's that.
I can understand. But one of my main usage here is video projections (I did with it on last summer, light on a full castle, drawing things out of the windows, etc) and as long projector will have 16:9 ratio, I'll probably be happy with this type of monitor on my portable device :-D ( or maybe, the drivers need to improve on Linux so the area mapping of the tablet can also adapt in case of cloning a different aspect ratio xD)
i was thinking of getting this, but ended up getting a samsung tab s9 ultra. it's so great!!!!!!!! but i cant use a pc physically, so linux etc is not important for me😊
I think you need to buy a small keyboard with 9-12 keys, and maybe a couple of rotary knobs. I don't know if all this will work on Linux, so you'll have to ask the vendors.
I got a Fujitsu for this a long time ago, and it gets so absurdly hot that it's not practical. Also, it has about 1/2cm gap between the display surface and the outside surface of the screen. :(
yes, many computer with a stylus that were sold as 2 in 1 were not really well done. Heat, lag (low input bandwith) for the stylus, distance of the cursor, etc... There is still a lot of bad devices sold as "with a stylus" in the Android and PC world.
I cant stand it when there is lag between my pen and the actual stroke showing on Screen. iPad Pro is the best in NO LAG and best pressure sensivity very close to real pencil in Paper. I wish there was KRITA on iOS, are there any plans for this?
Bonjour j'ai une question Je m'apprête a acheter un lenovo l380 et je me demandais suis je obligée d'installer linux pour pouvoir dessiner ? Ou est ce que vous l'avez fait car vous etes plus a l'aise avec ?
Bonjour, alors non, Linux n'est pas obligatoire. Ici, je ne mets que ça à la maison pour nous protéger de l'influence de la pub, du pistage des données et reprendre le contrôle sur nos machines. Mais c'est une machine faite pour Windows par son constructeur à l'origine.
Heya Dave! Have you considered mapping a joycon or a bluetooth controller to the device to control Krita? I recently managed to map a clip studio tabmate to krita using qjoypad in linux mint and I'm having a blast! that should solve the issue of the keyboard.
Hello, David. Regarding the stylus, how much pressure is required to activate the Bamboo Ink Plus which you use in this video? Supposedly the Bamboo Ink CS-323A requires little force, still has the 4k pressure sensitivity level but cannot be charged like the Ink Plus can (Which matters less than the functionality imo). Supposedly the Ink Plus requires considerable force to activate (as in drawing lightly will barely register lines). In that case other than the higher levels of pressure sensitivity, it is not much different from the stock Yoga 370 pen in terms of drawing which is the major annoyance. What is your experience with this? Thanks.
Hey, each stylus have their own pressure sensitivity. I just calibrate their curve here with xsetwacom until I have a pressure feeling I find controlable and acceptable.
@@DavidRevoy Thanks for the reply. I ended up purchasing the Ink Plus and it's a great pen. The pressure sensitivity works great and there is no noticeable amount of required pressure to activate which is fantastic. There's more wobble to the finer lines than I expected but this only seems to matter much for sketching (granted very noticeable). Good video and guides btw! We seem to be getting closer and closer for mobile drawing solutions for linux although for now in my opinion any big projects requiring serious preciseness will benefit the most from Wacom's Movink tablet or (preferably) Xence's 16 inch tablet.
Yes, the AES Stylus has a very good range of pressure sensitivity and precision. The lowest quality element on the build is probably the overly smooth (glass like) screen. I wanted to try to put an overlay on it, but it cost and also would reduce the touch sensitivity I like. So, I kept it like that and learnt how to deal with it.
@@DavidRevoy Awesome! I ask because I recently got into Linux and absolutely love it so far, to the point where I want to replace my iPad with a Linux machine for art.
Merci pour la présentation. Est ce que un laptop classique (sans écran tactile) avec un tablette huion ou xppen à l'écran 16 pouces connecté sur laptop n'est pas finalement la meilleure solution?
Alors c'est en effet une très bonne solution et même supérieur pour le confort de dessin (accès au clavier, confort du stylet, écran/tablette fait pour). Seulement, c'est bien moins mobile: le branchement en USB-C de la tablette écran vide en 1h la batterie du portable. Et niveau transport, c'est deux fois plus de poids. Idem avec l'encombrement: pas moyen de sortir les deux sur une table du siège dans un train. Ici, c'est ma petite solution mobile, pendant les trajets, mon but est le poids, la facilité de déploiement. Celui là, je l'ai déjà pris sur scène sur mes genoux l'hors d'une table ronde, branché en HDMI. Nickel.
@@DavidRevoy je comprends. Mon idée été que le laptop reste fermé (dans le sac, à côté du siège, sous la tablette graphique). Et du coup on a que le tablette graphique sur les genoux avec le câble qui va dans le sac. La batterie je n'avais pas pensé. Je ne savais pas que ça prenait tellement d' électricité avec la tablette graphique. Mais je comprends pour l'encombrement.
@@marek_vanco_photo Oui, un écran 16" ça prends un max. Aussi, la plus part des laptop fermé on une fonction dans la charnière qui va les mettre en veille (et aussi, le clavier est une source d'aération, donc risque de surchauffe si ça reste fermé, encore plus dans un sac. A la limite, il y a pas mal de prise d'électricité de nos jours, hotel, train, etc... Un petit raspberry 4 avec ce genre de tablette pourquoi pas. Pas certain que le plug USBC du raspberry par contre arrive à alimenter l'écran.
@@DavidRevoy dans Windows tu peux désactiver "do nothing when lip is closed". Sous KDE/GNOME ça doit exister aussi. J'utilise le laptop Lenovo avec le display fermé quelques années sans problème pour travail devs. En tout les cas merci pour le point vue.
Hey, sorry for replying only now, I was browsing my video when I noticed your reply. No, the pen here connects to the unit, but I don't think it uses the bluetooth mode. What I observed after a year of usage (from time to time, a week every two month, because this is my roaming/travel unit) is I need to charge the pen before any trip. This one, even when not in usage loose all its battery.
Hey, it really depends how this linux distro manage the digitizer in a standard way that Krita can understand, and is able to run full Krita without introducing display bug or packaging (containerised) limitations. As far as I know, there is no user like that, so if you want to pioneer this path, expect to get a lot of bug report on your way, and probably low priority fix because this usage is not common. (a bit as always a chicken/egg issue). If you try it, let me know! I'm curious :)
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I love the portrait painting beautiful as always!!
I use a similar laptop with Krita sometimes and was wondering why my strokes kept disappearing! Thanks for the tip on the default multi-touch settings to change in Krita.
Fantastic info in this. I've been looking a lot into Linux/free/cheap software lately. This is great for a hardware option for me!
I did this research too. I bought an Acer Chromebook Spin 314-1H with UHD graphics and a separate USI stylus (there are many). The android Krita is not so great. Infinite Painter performance is OK. Artflow is wonderful! Above all, reading Webtoons on a 14" tablet is a joy!
I have a laptop similar to this one, normally I carry around a small Bluetooth keyboard to help with usability.
Thank you for your review ! I love Krita, and I use it with a surface pro 7, which is great. However, I still find Kirta really lacks a support for mobile devices that don't have a keyboard attached, a bit as procreate I guess. Because as you said, not having a keyboard around is really hard using Krita. Hope they do release some way to have a touch integration that is better in the future. Still a great open source software.
Merci. Je vais regarder tous les settings de Krita dont tu as parlé c'est vraiment super. J'ai acheté il y a 3 semaine un Lenovo yoga x390. J'ai essayé quelques distributions de Linux et celle qui a fonctionné le mieux pour les gestes sur l'écran avec les doigts etvle stylus c'est Zorin 17. Pour le clavier virtuel jai ajouté l'extension de GNOME "improved OSK" qui est plus facile à utiliser que onboard
Merci pour les retours et partage de tests! Oui, une année est passé depuis, et le monde de Linux à de plus en plus un meilleur support pour le clavier virtuel et le touch. Vivement que ça soit sur toute les distro.
thanks for sharing your hardware findings! i have given up on portable devices, since all we had was apple or android, both make great products, but neither at the price nor removable batteries i wanted.
I love this guy
I bought a used Lenovo ThinkPad Yoga S1 12,5" a few years ago for 300$ and it's still working great for everything, including drawing. It's from 2014 and came with a passive digitizer pen (I bought different one that is bigger and more comfortable), sadly battery life is not good, I can squeeze 2-2,5h max out of it, but usually it's actually less. I'm tempted to try out Linux on it, will see.
I love Krita for this stuff, I use it on my Android tablet all the time. They still have a little work to do on the interface, but it's quite usable and incredibly intuitive.
CLIP STUDIO PAINT is better in every way.
Took a lot of setting up in 5.1.5 on android but it's totally worth it, Krita is great.
@@petrensinger how about being open source and libre software? is csp better in this way too?
@@urod7149It's closed-source software that you pay for, and it's the best and most popular painting software ever made. That's CLIP STUDIO PAINT. You're just a Stahlmann's witness. Get a life.
muy buen video, me diste una gran idea para usar una tableta con Linux, muchas gracias.
Merci pour cette vidéo et toutes ces astuces!
😮oh nice I probably am going to look into this laptop, for use with krita and maybe a bit of grease pencil for blender if it can handle it that is.
Great video. I am currently looking into tablets I can run linux on and draw on, but havent been very successfull yet. It's such an edge use case that its diffcult to get any usefull info. For example some claim you can run Fedora on a Galaxy S8 Tablet while others claim that's only possible with significant performance hits.
Might just take a second look into the yoga-series
Pretty curious is that the android version of Krita manages well the touch gestures (i'm usually using it on a s8+ tab). They almos adapted it to work with pen gestures as well. On desktop versions, on W10 and Linux, it doesn't work that well.
Gpod mobile digital painting options are rrally hard to come by right now, especially on a budget.
Great video, but wow that's a lot of hurdles to jump through.
Admittedly, I'm also tech dumb so there's that.
My main issue with the thinkpads is their flat aspect ratio. Hopefully 3:2 aspect ratio will become the standard for laptops and tablets
I can understand. But one of my main usage here is video projections (I did with it on last summer, light on a full castle, drawing things out of the windows, etc) and as long projector will have 16:9 ratio, I'll probably be happy with this type of monitor on my portable device :-D ( or maybe, the drivers need to improve on Linux so the area mapping of the tablet can also adapt in case of cloning a different aspect ratio xD)
i was thinking of getting this, but ended up getting a samsung tab s9 ultra. it's so great!!!!!!!! but i cant use a pc physically, so linux etc is not important for me😊
i have a Bluetooth keyboard tho that is almost a must use
I think you need to buy a small keyboard with 9-12 keys, and maybe a couple of rotary knobs. I don't know if all this will work on Linux, so you'll have to ask the vendors.
I got a Fujitsu for this a long time ago, and it gets so absurdly hot that it's not practical. Also, it has about 1/2cm gap between the display surface and the outside surface of the screen. :(
yes, many computer with a stylus that were sold as 2 in 1 were not really well done. Heat, lag (low input bandwith) for the stylus, distance of the cursor, etc... There is still a lot of bad devices sold as "with a stylus" in the Android and PC world.
iam trying to find a good canvas size and resalution for when i draw landscapes do you have a prefferable size?
thanks for sharing
I cant stand it when there is lag between my pen and the actual stroke showing on Screen. iPad Pro is the best in NO LAG and best pressure sensivity very close to real pencil in Paper. I wish there was KRITA on iOS, are there any plans for this?
As far as I know, it has something to do with the Apple Store rules and requirements: really making the life of free/libre software dev a hell.
@@DavidRevoy thats so sad
Bonjour j'ai une question
Je m'apprête a acheter un lenovo l380 et je me demandais suis je obligée d'installer linux pour pouvoir dessiner ? Ou est ce que vous l'avez fait car vous etes plus a l'aise avec ?
Bonjour, alors non, Linux n'est pas obligatoire. Ici, je ne mets que ça à la maison pour nous protéger de l'influence de la pub, du pistage des données et reprendre le contrôle sur nos machines. Mais c'est une machine faite pour Windows par son constructeur à l'origine.
@@DavidRevoy ok je vois plus clair merci pour votre réponse ^^
NEW VIDEO! 🎉
Heya Dave! Have you considered mapping a joycon or a bluetooth controller to the device to control Krita? I recently managed to map a clip studio tabmate to krita using qjoypad in linux mint and I'm having a blast! that should solve the issue of the keyboard.
Hello, David. Regarding the stylus, how much pressure is required to activate the Bamboo Ink Plus which you use in this video? Supposedly the Bamboo Ink CS-323A requires little force, still has the 4k pressure sensitivity level but cannot be charged like the Ink Plus can (Which matters less than the functionality imo). Supposedly the Ink Plus requires considerable force to activate (as in drawing lightly will barely register lines). In that case other than the higher levels of pressure sensitivity, it is not much different from the stock Yoga 370 pen in terms of drawing which is the major annoyance. What is your experience with this? Thanks.
Hey, each stylus have their own pressure sensitivity. I just calibrate their curve here with xsetwacom until I have a pressure feeling I find controlable and acceptable.
@@DavidRevoy Thanks for the reply. I ended up purchasing the Ink Plus and it's a great pen. The pressure sensitivity works great and there is no noticeable amount of required pressure to activate which is fantastic. There's more wobble to the finer lines than I expected but this only seems to matter much for sketching (granted very noticeable). Good video and guides btw! We seem to be getting closer and closer for mobile drawing solutions for linux although for now in my opinion any big projects requiring serious preciseness will benefit the most from Wacom's Movink tablet or (preferably) Xence's 16 inch tablet.
Question on this, and apologies if I didn't hear you on the issue. But is there pressure sensitivity with this set up?
Yes, the AES Stylus has a very good range of pressure sensitivity and precision. The lowest quality element on the build is probably the overly smooth (glass like) screen. I wanted to try to put an overlay on it, but it cost and also would reduce the touch sensitivity I like. So, I kept it like that and learnt how to deal with it.
@@DavidRevoy Awesome! I ask because I recently got into Linux and absolutely love it so far, to the point where I want to replace my iPad with a Linux machine for art.
@@ApostleBenD1516 It's not an easy path, but it's an interesting one for sure; I wish you the best!
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Merci pour la présentation. Est ce que un laptop classique (sans écran tactile) avec un tablette huion ou xppen à l'écran 16 pouces connecté sur laptop n'est pas finalement la meilleure solution?
Alors c'est en effet une très bonne solution et même supérieur pour le confort de dessin (accès au clavier, confort du stylet, écran/tablette fait pour). Seulement, c'est bien moins mobile: le branchement en USB-C de la tablette écran vide en 1h la batterie du portable. Et niveau transport, c'est deux fois plus de poids. Idem avec l'encombrement: pas moyen de sortir les deux sur une table du siège dans un train.
Ici, c'est ma petite solution mobile, pendant les trajets, mon but est le poids, la facilité de déploiement. Celui là, je l'ai déjà pris sur scène sur mes genoux l'hors d'une table ronde, branché en HDMI. Nickel.
@@DavidRevoy je comprends. Mon idée été que le laptop reste fermé (dans le sac, à côté du siège, sous la tablette graphique). Et du coup on a que le tablette graphique sur les genoux avec le câble qui va dans le sac.
La batterie je n'avais pas pensé. Je ne savais pas que ça prenait tellement d' électricité avec la tablette graphique.
Mais je comprends pour l'encombrement.
@@marek_vanco_photo Oui, un écran 16" ça prends un max. Aussi, la plus part des laptop fermé on une fonction dans la charnière qui va les mettre en veille (et aussi, le clavier est une source d'aération, donc risque de surchauffe si ça reste fermé, encore plus dans un sac.
A la limite, il y a pas mal de prise d'électricité de nos jours, hotel, train, etc... Un petit raspberry 4 avec ce genre de tablette pourquoi pas. Pas certain que le plug USBC du raspberry par contre arrive à alimenter l'écran.
@@DavidRevoy dans Windows tu peux désactiver "do nothing when lip is closed". Sous KDE/GNOME ça doit exister aussi.
J'utilise le laptop Lenovo avec le display fermé quelques années sans problème pour travail devs.
En tout les cas merci pour le point vue.
@@marek_vanco_photo Merci aussi, c'est bon à savoir pour le laptop fermé. J'avais un gros a priori dessus. Merci.
Did you have any trouble getting the Bamboo Ink Plus to stay connected via bluetooth?
Hey, sorry for replying only now, I was browsing my video when I noticed your reply. No, the pen here connects to the unit, but I don't think it uses the bluetooth mode. What I observed after a year of usage (from time to time, a week every two month, because this is my roaming/travel unit) is I need to charge the pen before any trip. This one, even when not in usage loose all its battery.
Do you think one can pull this off with PostMarketOS?
Hey, it really depends how this linux distro manage the digitizer in a standard way that Krita can understand, and is able to run full Krita without introducing display bug or packaging (containerised) limitations. As far as I know, there is no user like that, so if you want to pioneer this path, expect to get a lot of bug report on your way, and probably low priority fix because this usage is not common. (a bit as always a chicken/egg issue). If you try it, let me know! I'm curious :)
c'est pas comme Gimp
Compared to CLIP STUDIO PAINT, Krita looks very pathetic in every possible way.