Intro to Vatican II & the Events Leading Up to It ~ Fr Smith
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
- In our first installment, we discuss why this council is so important to the life of the Church, and why it is crucial that we understand how interpretive questions really influence everything in the life of the Church. For Q&A at the end of the talks please visit www.ccwatershed...
Dearest Rev. Father & Sensus Fidelium: Thank you so much for making the public a part of this class! I appreciate your generosity of heart and knowledge!
Fr. Christopher Smith's lectures on the Second Vatican Council will become an invaluable resource for many people, because in many cases, there are various conflicting interpretations of the Second Vatican Council. Thanks-a-million for posting these lectures online, and especially thanks-a-million to Fr. Smith for giving his permission to have them posted on the Internet. Many of the complexities of the Council, as well as the events leading up the Council, are brought to light. I had listened to this lecture series from Corpus Christi Watershed, but somehow I am drawn to listening to these lectures again. There is just so much to learn.
Lecture starts around 13:40.
Thanks 🙏🏻
Father Smith is the one talented and he is a parish priest at Prince of Peace in Taylors South Carolina
The Vatican and the Curia must shoulder the blame for not reining in the ridiculous notions and actions of the Bishops. I know Bishops have great independent power but NOT to change dogma/doctrine. The Popes and the Curia really failed.
"Ye shall know him by his fruits."
Lark Bird. I understand it that once dogma is established (ex cathedra - "from the chair of Peter") it can never be changed in any manner. From a personal standpoint, I think Vatican II should be reviewed and studied in the light of the Council of Trent. Also - it is of interest to me, at least, what aspects of this council are affected by the Freemasonic agenda as enumerated in the Alta Vendita: the Permanent Instruction for the Subversion of the Catholic Church. For example, the Novus Order Missae was developed by six Protestant ministers and a freemason Bishop, Aniballe Bugnini. It's almost 4:00am and all of the preceeding is off the top of my head, so to speak. I'm certain I may have erred in some respects, so I hope you will be kind enough to forgive me. Best regards.
Linda Lamuth - I absolutely agree with you on the Novus Ordo Missae. Just the mere fact they and other non-Catholic leaders attended Vat 2 tells me Vat 2 was not of the Holy Mother Church. I think it is significant that the Pope who called Vat 2 died before it was ended. However, God permits. I think we must stay glued to Christ's side and pray that God's Will may be done.
I am not sure where he is going with this. I am willing to listen,because I want every insight on V2 I can get. How did we get from there to here. It is like doors were opened and there was no thought to what doors would be opened from that first one,on and on,down to today. The same kind of thing goes on today.
This is great. thank you very much for obtaining this kind of doctoral level content for the channel. as a formally trained religious studies scholar with graduate degrees, this type of systemic approach to the council is just a goldmine. It's important for us traditionally minded Catholics to have a full grasp of what svc actually is.
Angel Falcon St. Bernadette, uneducated to the nth degree according to worldly standards, was asked by a panel of clerics....."What do you fear most......" Her answer....."bad Catholics".
Using phrases like "50 shades of gray" in light of the recent movie and in a humorous tone is quite problematic!
Loretta Garcia but that is to ignore a phrase that has been around for much much longer than a tawdry movie. and its apt in context.
definitely appreciate more studious content about v2 but this man's heavily colloquial and flamboyant speaking style makes it difficult to take seriously
I wonder where he got his flamboyant speaking style from
Why is a priest referencing 50 Shades of Grey? Also saying "Oh My God" every other sentence? This video was edited too. 3 hours ago this video had a much more flippant intro. Now it starts with a holy st Michael the archangel prayer. Sensus Fidelium should take this video down. Good information but there are MUCH better messengers regarding this topic.
Sensus Fidelium - let's get back on track.
Amen. Could this sensus fidelium be a fake ?
I don't care for the way this priest speaks. It is a real turnoff to me.
he used the turn of phrase 50 shades of grey, he didn't reference the book
Lol, guess you don't see the problem.
I believe "50 shades of gray" is an expression that precedes the infamous novel... No need to get worked up.
What's with all the down votes and negativity? I liked the intro and eager to watch the entire series. I think everyone is missing the point here. The HS did lead the church. Now we have to question the interpretation of the council. From India I can attest that the interpretation was messed up a lot. But that doesn't we that everything is wrong about the council
25 minutes in, and the vocal fry is really starting to bother me.
I'm only 31 minutes in and wondering does this get better!!! This lecture feels completely out of step with the stalwart and rock solid sermons I've heard before.Those were from other priests. Maybe it's the effusive praise of Benedict XV that's throwing me off or the colloquialisms. Either way we expect a more reverent exposition of thoughts. This is like a discordant note you hear that makes you want to stop the song.
What I've heard so far is missing the point with Vatican II. It appears from my study of things that John the 23rd called the council because he wanted to. There's our first issue. The Pope is the chief steward not the master. He should have asked God to make it clear a council was needed. His next mistake was a failure to clearly define truths that were increasing coming under attack in the form of new "understandings" and "research". We live the fruit of his imprudent decision. God help us.
Much more than just that. That priest sounds gay!
very interesting to hear about the traditional Pope St John the XXIII
can you include a list of the books/pamphlets that go with this lecture? I would like to have them to follow along with this class. Thanks!
Thanks for this brother.
Hey Sensus, just chiming in to say that I'm enjoying the content. This seems to be a serious look into the topic of Vatican II. Keep it up!
Heitor Rodrigues thanks bud. Yes I know the priest doing this series & he's very solid and knows his stuff.
Wow this is fantastic!! I'm a traditionalist slowly finding the necessity and beauty of the real Vatican II. Can't wait to see the next six installments.
However what the speaker said is " a lot of cool stuff happening in Theology" were happening..." and that contributed to VII etc. That is when the problem began when they are talking of Critical Historical Analysis and apply it to Biblical Studies, Theology, etc. It shift from the Theology of the Saints, to this critical analysis which has its foundation in Protestantism.
VCII was “pastoral” encouraging Catholics to do things like start using TV to preach and so on… it’s dated, expired and we really need to move on.
I get this lecture, but I can’t put it into words how I do!
the other videos on this series get weird comments too! Maybe the priest ...never mind.He's fine. I am listening to the whole series because he is 'splaining it so I can understand! Nobody else has! So a bad joke or two does not bother me. I'mgrateful.
The Freemasonry 🔥 French Revolution and Vatican II
Wow when this started I wasn’t sure I wanted to listen to this but I’m glad I did. This has been very informative. He said this was a course so are the other videos on here following up in this talk?
Julie Kozlowski yes about 5-6 video series
Sensus Fidelium found them thank you much!!
Wow. I used to think Sensus Fidelium was the real deal.
stmtraps so what's your beef on this?
I smell phony on this YT site so unsubscribed. Fr Ripperger's talks are at Sentrad and Romans 10 seventeen is also good.
Ripperger's talks are the best on the internet that I've ever found.
Absolutely, a blessing.
Maybe I'm passing judgement too soon, I had to stop listening because that voice just makes me cringe.
Gotta say, I God forgive me if I am wrong, but Fr. Smith has a "peculiar" delivery that has me wondering...
jim mcmahon stop the wondering. I know him
Then I am at ease.
I pray that this priest would STOP using God's name in vain........
Lou D - Yes and you'd think that he being a Priest and all would know better, but thus is the way of the Church today, they don't care about the thing's of which we have cared about for over two thousand years of the Church.
Everything of Religious Morals and Values has gone out the window and is no longer considered to be important. Yet those thin'g were always extremely important to Catholic faith. God Bless.
Dear Friends in Sensus Fidelium, GODSPEED! I'm sharing this with an acquaintance who's a practically rabid traditionalist but in view of your work might begin to comprehend the magnitude of his error. Pray for him as you do for all the folks of his spirit. I think I get the whole point of the council convened by Saint John XXIII, that point being the very prayer Christ prayed (recorded in John 17), "that they might be one". Reunion with our separated brothers and sisters demands we take holy initiative, which he obviously did. Again Godspeed.!!!
The problems of Modernism in the Roman Catholic Church began one many years before Vatican II and the NEW Mass. Think about Our Lady of Lasallette. The problem of declining attendance to Mass I think began in 1940 and accelerated afterwards. I do not know maybe Blessed Popes John xxiii and Paul VI were looking to the future were worried, trying to put a bread to the exodus of the laity from the Church. If you want to know who really were these two POPES, read their writings. They were Traditionalist and denouncing the evil of their time.
It seems the Vatican wants a Mass 2.0 only.
Why does it have to be at the expense of our Traditional Mass.
Why can’t we have God’s 1.a. Mass and God’s 1.b. Mass?
Does everything have to be so non-inclusive or black and white or only one or the other.
But, if you ask my personal opinion I’d have to say … the Traditional Extraordinary Mass. Because it’s not caring of how long it takes to worship God in the holiest of ways, it does not rush through genuflections, kisses, or the sign of the cross, etc.
The words are just slow enough and enunciated well enough to be heard and understood by all. I can certainly read along in a missile to read the Latin and the English to know why and what is going on and what is next.
When I travelled in the 70’s and 80’ to Europe, I had to read a translated missile from a language of the country I was visiting to respond in whatever broken pronunciation I might have incoherently been able to say.
It would have been much more appropriate to have been in a Latin Mass and everyone responding thusly. But I would have followed a translation.
What is it too conspicuous to carry a Missile and or a Bible and a Catholic prayer book around with you suddenly in the last 50 years?
Really?
It’s not “our church”for elevating humanity or saying, dancing or singing what ever we like.
It’s GOD’S Church so that we can honor, worship and elevate the Trinity. Our time to be thankful, grateful, and reverent towards Him.
In my opinion the shorthand version in every language known is not holy enough for my God.
John the XXIII was apparently very very wrong.
He does not sound like a Priest. At all. He sounds like a profane homosexual academic.
Vatican I gave us Papal infallibility which works both forwards and backwards in time. Which definitively means continuity.
Modernists give themselves away when they speak of a "pre-VII" Church. They do mean and do want, revolution. They reject almost entirely the Church founded by Christ and intend a "spirit of VII" church consisting entirely of what their heretic of the month enjoys at the moment.
There were not two forms of mass before Vatican II. Even today the Latin Tridentine Mass is still the Roman Rite. The Novus Ordo is illicit. We were deceived into thinking the NO replaced the LTM after VII. Deo gratias for the late Archbishop Lefebvre.
fatima01917 I couldn't agree more. Thank you.
I know, Father, you don.t want to bore; but are you being a little cavalier about what has happened to our poor battered church
Ordinary, extraordinary? Mass? Traditional Latin Mass. Period. Vatican 2 - 2x speak.
ordinary form, extraordinary form???!!? that's offensive to pius ears. There's only one Roman Rite. Come on Sensus Fidelium get with it,this video says great things but some of it is poison, take it down plz
Ken DellaSandri fact is there's an ordinary & extraordinary form today. Truth is conforming your mind to reality. That's reality.
Užasan i nerazumljiv govor.Razočaravajuće. Iznenađujuće za Sensus Fidelium.😢
neo conservative jargon
Vatican 2 - Let's spend millions of dollars for an unnecessary council and lay the foundation for the false church described in Catechism of the Catholic Church #675. Fr. Smith, the church was born on Calvary not Pentecost, so says the Catechism.
sue200012 so what happened at Pentecost??
any Christian would know this.
sue200012 shallow and evasive answer
google is your friend.
Duh, can't believe you would ask. They received the Holy Spirit.
Why are you praying to Saints?
Disciple of TRUTH for the same reason that you would ask someone to pray for you or the same reason that someone would ask you to pray for them. It is perfectly normal to pray for those we love and care for.
Father I enjoyed the lesson but you seriously need to slow down.Plus you kept moving on from a subject saying we will come back to that later but never did. ie you never got back to explaining why Pope John didn't like people lighting candles in church but only a priest.
I have noticed that some priests ( I'm not saying you ) say the mass much too fast. For example,I care for my 85 year old mother at home with dementia 24/7 so I watch many masses per day.In one chapel after listening to a certain mass a few times by the same priest I thought that went very quick. So one day I decided to time him from the minute he walked out to the alter and left.
I was amazed and shocked not to say saddened that the time he took was exactly 13 minutes and 20 seconds and the full mass was over.
I consider that an insult to God not to mention the congregation who came to mass.
But I digress. Can I please have the answer about Pope John and the candle story? Thank you.