You dont have to invest on them if you just want the buff. You can play them at lvl 40 and give them support echos such as moonlit and rejuvenating glow with 3 cost as energy regen. As long as u have those 3 costs up to lvl 15+ you should be at 160+ er which is enough but if you're willing to go down more then +25 isn't bad either more energy regen much faster rotation. Also note that while building jihnsi's forte you dont have to get as much as damage but as fast as you can hit coordinated attacks. So you wont have to worry using mortefi ult with low dmg while building her forte. If you really wanna be efficient with your resources then lvl 40 and +15 3 costs energy regen echoes is enough to make a good rotation for your main dps 👍
I just hope that they release MORE UNIVERSAL SUPPORT, jesus, all the releases are DPS's 🤣... Verina is being stretched to all Team comps, my little girl cant handle multiple teams alone HAHAHAHA
Yuanwu Verina is the ULTIMATE Jinhsi hypercarry team right now, point blank period. While a super built Yinlin 'could' be better in AoE cause of her sub DPS, Jinhsi hypercarry is just easy to make. Verina is not hard to build, and Yuanwu can be level 1 for all that matters. Another hypercarry team would be switching Verina with Taoqi, bigger damage 'numbers' but a slower rotation imo. You could also switch Verina with R6 Spectro Rover, but he 'would' have to be a well built sub DPS to be somewhat equal to Verina in that position, with ofcourse less survivability but doable since Verina is so used everywhere.
Yeah after using level 1 Yuanwu, it feels so much smoother than Yinlin 😂 They even have similar boss performance because Jinhsi just builds stacks so fast with Yuanwu who has near 0 field time.
Im glad someone who made a Jinhsi guide finally acknowledged that Mortefis ult doesnt work with her. I noticed this too and started doubting his usefulness as her teammate and no one else ever said anything about it! That said I don’t have Yinlin and haven’t bothered even leveling Yuanwu so I’m still making him work. The only downside is having to stay on field with him a tad longer to fire some BA to build stacks and while his damage isn’t awful, it obviously just takes away potential dps time from Jinhsi. I look forward to whenever a true hybrid support comes along that can compliment Jinhsi’s kit to its fullest.
But if your Mortefi is S1, he will work with Jinhsi in the awakened state. Also personally i would recommend to use Mortefi only if he is S4, otherwise Yuanwu is better for getting the stacks
@@yuvarajm5795 I have Mortefi S1 and it does not work. Jinhsi’s initial E cast will trigger it but not the basic attacks while in her skill state unfortunately
@@naunau311 yah I started testing around with him today at lvl 40 with all level 0 echoes/weapon/skills and the team performs literally so good 💀 its crazy how easy he is
Atleast Yuanwu gets some shine here, because his animations AREN'T CHEAP, instead his kit is and I just feel bad when he looks so cool to play yet weak in numbers 😢.
his combat animation is one of the best in the game, look at how he move during fight, that's 5* animation right there, feel so power full and satisfying to combo.
@@vrika4280 your great sacrasm still misses the main point. His numbers are bad for support/subdps. Every other support like Danjin/Mortefi /Snahua do way more dmg + better buffs. He is concerto is also too slow for him to be a defense option with his shield. So far he is only useful in Jinshi teams but not cos he is good ofc. Jinshi just cares only for 1 single element of his kit. Even healing is from the weapon.
@@ixirion It misses nothing, if he is not designed that way, of course he is not going to do Danjin damage either. The character is a 4 star with a niche. They are not going to be what you want them to be, this isn't Barbie nor some other type of rpg.
@@vrika4280 what a stupid take XDDD he wasnt designed that way. his dmg was way higher in CBT. they overnerfed him without changing his kit. moreover if anyone with brain look at his kit he is designed for longer field time. ppl play him at lv 1. with Jinshi. thats not niche. thats a bad kit design
I know this has been overly repetitive amongst the comments, but thank you for the very useful and detailed possible rotations and comparisons on how to manage the team. This kind of quality hasn't been amongst the content creators these days - and not only according to me, but the others clearly agree on this. Great job man, not that it's a job perfomance review, i dunno how to say it in english, now great work also sounds like it's a job... Great video..? Well played? Kudos? Congratulations.. yeah those lines 😅😅
could you make a guide on baizhi rotations? there arent any around and my verina is getting stretched really thin among my teams, I've tried baizhi but I think im doing something wrong for her concerto to regenerate so slowly and would like to know if there are some tech I can use to skip long skill animations
I think with her you should do the aforementioned zig zag rotation even with Yuanwu because you can’t build concerto every Jinhsi rotation, too expensive. A bit like the Mortefi rotation you still swap back to her every time even just to use a skill in order to help speeding up her concerto generation next rotation. At a baseline you need liberation > BA1-4 > E to fill most of the concerto gauge, you then finish with a few more normals if necessary.
Remember, guys, when many CC put that guy in C tier now. He is top support. *This is why I always say WuWa doesn't need a tier list.* Take your time to learn their mechanics and have an understanding of their skills. You will be surprised to discover that the 4 stars are secretly 5 stars in disguise.
Ok so outside of jinhsi, who actually wants yuanwu in their team? NO ONE. This is called a niche exception, why would anyone be building yuanwu before jinhsi with Crystal ball knowledge?
I think Heron only buff the next character if current char use thier outro, and in this video i see he only swap cancel from verina to yuanwu but does not trigger outro, only after conplete does yuanwu things and swap back to verina, he do the verina’s outro to jinhsi, so i think jinhsi still take a buff from heron
@@sylphial ok makes sense, didn't know that, thanks for the heads up, unlike the other comment that just posted an emote trying to look cool (and failed)
@@icynelzenjansarol5415 yuanwu with jinhsi needs rejuvenating glow with the originite so yuanwu can buff jinhsi everytime yuanwu heals with originite since Yuanwu has hard time generating concerto
@@Benalecjohn I have been trying to use Yuanwu with Jinhsi. I just have to be careful because he has so little HP right now he’ll get one shot easily. I did end up pulling Jinhsi in the final few days of her banner, and while she has allowed me to get another dorito in the tower that I wasn’t able to get before even though she isn’t even fully built. I still kinda regret it. I just find her play style really clunky. Maybe once she’s fully built and doing tons of damage I’ll start to enjoy it.
Whats the main stat and sub stat do i use for the moonlit verina on yuanwu team? is it 4cost Healing bonus (ER substat), x2 3cost ER (ER substat), x2 1cost ATK (ER substat)?
Yuanwu is the most comfortable to play required zero investment, heal, good coordinate attack only from skill unlike mortefi and yinlin. But i still prefer to play jinshi with yinlin just because she's hot XD
can you try to showcase these runs again ? I suppose both your Yinlin and Mortefi have better investment now, because my lvl 80 yinlin with lvl 8 talents outperfroms yuanwu by a lot currently
followed everything in this guide but im not getting full stacks on my jinhsi and yuanwu after my first rotation. not sure why, can i send my gameplay to anybody to review?
Yaunwu so lucky team all hit is 192k Mortefi faster but not hit so much 76k Yanlin so slow and need more time to outroskill For me i take mortefi team fast and active 😊
Does Rejuvation 5pc effect really work on the gauntlet's passive? Because it say's "Increase attack of all party members UPON HEALING ALLIES" not heal yourself.
Not to mention that mortefi a6 gives 20% atk with heron echo it's 32% and with 5 star standard gun it's 42% so he's definitely not mid. He's definitely the best rn if you have him built. Yinlin only offers lib dmf which isn't super important on jihnsi. Yuanwu only offers stack buildings. No buffs to any of her dmg.
@@Theonlycupidgirl Hi, yes Mortefi is good with Jinhsi , he's just sequence locked. At S0 he's of no use since his LIBERATION doesn't generate stacks for Jinhsi in her incarnation state. Heron gives dmg%, not atk. At S5 and beyond mort is indeed very usable, in the vid you can see the stacks building up just fine, but not everybody has his sequences
Yinlin is my best built character by a landslide and for now i think i'll use her with Jinhsi (until she's up to speed with a solid build of her own) but later i plan on swapping to Yuanwu and using Yinlin with either Calcharo or Havoc MC. Yinlin is quite demanding when it comes to field time and she's not ideal in multiwave content
I felt like mortefi wasn't doing much, so it wasn't just me. I'm not sure who to replace him with since I prefer verina with yinlin, but I'll mess around. The rotations aren't what I worry about though, even though I have E0S1 (I think is how it's laid out in this game) Jinshi, she does like 36k max in her skill. I don't get how every is doing well over 100k lol
soo i only started playing wuwa seriously during jinhsi’s release because i fell in love with her gameplay and story, and always had a hard time understanding the different gameplay and mechanics in wuwa so this was really helpful. jinhsi is honestly so fun to play with especially with the dragon puke nuke
And the most important point about Yuanwu is that if you get his S4, you get a shield based on all his defense, and he's the only one so far who can drain the defense bar of enemies without parrying. He becomes a solid 4-star sub-dps tank... This shield allows you to play more comfortably with Verina and Janhsi
I know this sound random but can i know if i use jiyan sign on calcharo, should i use atk+electro 3 cost echoes? Also your video is so amazing really help me understand how to do jinshi and yuanwu rotation. keep up the good work
I believe Yuanwu is the best in Single Target. And Yinlin in AOE scenario. For Calcs prove Jinhsi Discord calcs Yuanwu the Highest with 6% difference to Yinlin (this is single target). CN CC also calcs Yuanwu as the best Teammates for Jinhsi. They really value Single target a lot in there because middle tower and the end of left and right side is almost all about Boss Mortefi is lacking behind yinlin and Yuanwu. Even at S6, His number still behind Yuanwu. Basically he got outplay in every cases, In single target Yuanwu its better, In AOE Yinlin Its better and give some liberation buff too. This on top a lot of people not have e4 mortefi in the first place
Im a masochist so my team consist jinhsi yuan wu mortefi😂 What the use of healer if u can just evade? 😂 Anyway, my aim is max jinhshi forte each team rotation
the fact that i have verina on glow set and yuanwu on moonlit has made my jinhsi teams so miserable to use and i just can’t enjoy her the way i should be, so i’m gonna switch out the sets like you did and see how it goes
If you were to Moonlit on Yuanwu, you'll need Marcato Gauntlet to speed up the concerto (4 star fist weapon with energy regen). You also can trigger its effect once every 20 seconds, so there might be a time where it doesn't proc. Quite easier to let Verina be the one holding moonlit, but if you want to, it can be done in reverse, just a bit clunkier.
If you're thinking of dps, Yinlin is the best, her damage also counts. I've been testing out a lot with Jinhsi, Yinlin, Verina comp, its definately the best. Instead of swaping in a zigzag manner, its best to have Yinlin on the void thunder to maximaze her own damage and rotate from Jinhsi to Yinlin to verina. It is faster and less headache inducing this way. the moonlit buff is not a thing in this rotation, and personally, i think using this echo set is a trap. If you are using moonlit on Yinlin its a matter of using her outro which take a while to charge up if there isnt a mob around. With Jinhsi having no downtime on her skill Lazer, you'd actually be losing dps in total with Yinlin having to charge up her concorto gauge for moonlit buff. So the rotation would be like this. Jinhsi does her usual combo ending with skill lazer, outro to yinlin, basic attack 1 2 3 cancel heavy, skill twice then judgemark, swap to verina, ult, bell echo and get contorto gauge filled ASAP, outro to Jinhsi combo and repeat. as you can see everything becomes faster and simpler if you get Yinlin's outro out of the picture. With verina having insanely fast outro generation, you will always be introing into Jinhsi to activate her spectro set buff. if you have Yinlin's signature weapon, she become more bonkers. sorry for yapping so much. TLDR Jinhsi and Yinlin should be played as a dual DPS instead of Yinlin rocking the support set.
no i dont. but that come down to me not having her weapon. you've misjudged the showcase here. the yinlin team in this video could have cleared the heron a lot sooner. its just that jinhsi missed her crit twice on her lazer and once with her ult. whereas the yuanwu showcase had her criting every single lazer
@@boykalkula2300 I have tried that out. But jinhsi yinlin verina just felt faster and better. If I had the moonlit on yinlin, I’d definitely be going that route
Both Moonlit 5P and Herons effect only go off upon OUTRO. Swap canceling to yuanwu doesn't waste any buffs because no outro was triggered. You can safely cast Heron > swap to somebody else > come back > trigger outro onto the desired character Without losing any of the buffs
Question, i somehow got s4mortefi so can ai just use mortefi and yuanwu, kinda dont want to take verina from my calcharo, Would it still work almost the same as everyone else here?
Yes, you'd build Concerto on Mortefi instead of Verina in your team comp. I haven't tested it, but I'm sure it's workable. Rotations will just be a tad longer
I use that combo, with Mortefi at S3 only, and I like it, but at this point is more of a preference kind of situation. But, if you have Mortefi at S4 you get a really nice and smooth stacker for Jinshi, in my opinion. At this point you can even do Yuanwu and Spectro Rover (S6), and just use Yuanwu as a pillar bot, while using Rover as a debuffer and ultimate spammer, all this while doing constant Jinshi rotations, usually at half bar. She has quite some interesting builds going on, just see what is fun to you and adapt to it.
@@user-yk7vr3ve9b This is my subjective opinion, from what I have seen Jirieru doing, and from what I have also done with the same comp: No. I would even argue you do way less damage. The thing is: You can clear Hazard 3 stars with it, if you min-max well. So in the end, you do less damage, but it's a different playstyle with the same character. My main con to this team is that you need to build Rover with Moonlight, but you need to have good stats, so that at least you can provide damage with ultimate. Meanwhile, I'm doing very good damage with my full energy moonlight set (was my old Sanhua kit) on Mortefi, even using Cadenza (just to be fast and smooth), and my full energy + def Rejuvenating set on Yuanwu, using Type IV as a weapon (this set I switched from my Verina)
Hello could you try taoqi,yanwu,jinhsi? Yanwu healing set and 3 star weapon ( no need to outro on him) then toaqi heron set try to fill her concerto as fast as possible then jinhsi
So I've been thinking since the heron is not gonna be always active as much as the healing 4pc set effect can we get away without casting the heron since yuanwu is really not benefiting from that heron buff? In this rotation the turtle is much more useful even if it's not up all the time, cuz it buffs the whole team.
@@joejunior4700 the Heron buff only activates on outro, so it's not going to Yuanwu but to Jinhsi instead. I'd say it's quite important to have both bird and turtle
you probably can't answer this without a dps calculator but i'll ask for your take anyway: do you think there's a point of investment where it becomes worth it to build yuanwu with amity accord and the void thunder set over originite type iv and rejuvenating glow? maybe give him slightly more field time too to, say, cast his ult? or even in the highest case of investment is this a dps loss?
I tried him full dps with the thunder set and 3 star crit damage weapon but most I can get is 10-13k burst with his ultimate, maybe better when I try with amity accord that has a passive that boosts ultimate damage even more + bigger shields if s4, I mean he is playable and goes well with yinlin but no where near havoc mc and even less jinhsi
You're right we'd need a dps calculator :s really hard to tell, I tend to think it wouldn't be worth it and better to instead wait for jinxis dedicated support to release instead of investing too much into Yuanwu, but I don't want to spread lies either
I'm aiming for this since I have 2 pieces of Electro cost3 from Yinlin, so only need to tune Crit rate and DEF on him. I'm too lazy to set up calculator, but in theory, I think you only need to add at most 3 more sec on Yuanwu for this, but you sacrifice healer set for void thunder. Theorized rotation: Jinhsi Echo > Q.swap Yuanwu place totem > Healer with Moonlit rotation > Outro to Jinhsi > 1st Nuke -> Yuanwu forte (should filled by now from totem coord) -> Totem ->"Flautist here!" to gain concerto (Q.swap cancel to healer for some hit) > Yuanwu Ult -> Totem > Outro to healer. I was thinking that using Flautist as main for Yuanwu could bridge the gap a bit so he can send his outro for extra gauge damage. In theory, I don't think we would waste more than 3 seconds doing this, while you gain more passive coord lightning attack (it purely scales on Def), and his ult + totem break hits harder on enemy's stun gauge. Plus, for those not quite yet skilled at parrying, Yuanwu basic attacks SLAPs hard at parrying. You can break sequence and swap into him while fightning parry heavy boss like Memphis or Crownless.
100% f2p Tengo 12k de protos. Mi main es Danjin, llevo pity 60 asegurado. (Tengo todas las armas del permanente) Me recomiendan sacar a Jhinsi y su arma? O solo Jhinsi y le coloco el arma del permanente? No tengo yinlin ni jiyan
Great video, love the concise explanations. The only thing I'd add is that Yuanwu requires quite a bit more quick swapping on some of the other floors/bosses to re-place the Wedge. Heron tends to sit around for long periods of time and that kinda makes the hat man shine. He's still the best despite this, it just adds a little more complexity because you need to find the right spots in your rotations and the bosses' movement to quickswap and Wedge. I also havn't seen how big the range increase is on his passive, it'll definitely fix at least part of this problem.
Really nice that Yuanwu doesn’t need any investment at all, most of us can’t afford to build too many characters for now
bro, i'm stuck can't upgrade echo/character/skils because i'm broke in game, i need more shell credit.
Just some to get him at lvl 70
You dont have to invest on them if you just want the buff. You can play them at lvl 40 and give them support echos such as moonlit and rejuvenating glow with 3 cost as energy regen. As long as u have those 3 costs up to lvl 15+ you should be at 160+ er which is enough but if you're willing to go down more then +25 isn't bad either more energy regen much faster rotation.
Also note that while building jihnsi's forte you dont have to get as much as damage but as fast as you can hit coordinated attacks. So you wont have to worry using mortefi ult with low dmg while building her forte.
If you really wanna be efficient with your resources then lvl 40 and +15 3 costs energy regen echoes is enough to make a good rotation for your main dps 👍
@@Yozuewrhe can stay level 1 u dont need
@@Yozuewr thats a lot of waveplates for boss mats, nah
We really need more verinas
Bennett
Exactly 😭
I hope they release new interesting supports and even 4 stars
Not enough support for tower Verina needs a break
yeah.. S4 Verina would be great
Not this is what you called a "detailed guide".
Thanks for this bro! Keep up with this type of content!
I just hope that they release MORE UNIVERSAL SUPPORT, jesus, all the releases are DPS's 🤣... Verina is being stretched to all Team comps, my little girl cant handle multiple teams alone HAHAHAHA
Yuanwu Verina is the ULTIMATE Jinhsi hypercarry team right now, point blank period. While a super built Yinlin 'could' be better in AoE cause of her sub DPS, Jinhsi hypercarry is just easy to make. Verina is not hard to build, and Yuanwu can be level 1 for all that matters. Another hypercarry team would be switching Verina with Taoqi, bigger damage 'numbers' but a slower rotation imo. You could also switch Verina with R6 Spectro Rover, but he 'would' have to be a well built sub DPS to be somewhat equal to Verina in that position, with ofcourse less survivability but doable since Verina is so used everywhere.
Yeah after using level 1 Yuanwu, it feels so much smoother than Yinlin 😂 They even have similar boss performance because Jinhsi just builds stacks so fast with Yuanwu who has near 0 field time.
I didn't know all of this info before watching this vid, keep up the amazing work bro, liked it and subbed.
Im glad someone who made a Jinhsi guide finally acknowledged that Mortefis ult doesnt work with her. I noticed this too and started doubting his usefulness as her teammate and no one else ever said anything about it! That said I don’t have Yinlin and haven’t bothered even leveling Yuanwu so I’m still making him work. The only downside is having to stay on field with him a tad longer to fire some BA to build stacks and while his damage isn’t awful, it obviously just takes away potential dps time from Jinhsi. I look forward to whenever a true hybrid support comes along that can compliment Jinhsi’s kit to its fullest.
But if your Mortefi is S1, he will work with Jinhsi in the awakened state. Also personally i would recommend to use Mortefi only if he is S4, otherwise Yuanwu is better for getting the stacks
@@yuvarajm5795 I have Mortefi S1 and it does not work. Jinhsi’s initial E cast will trigger it but not the basic attacks while in her skill state unfortunately
You don't need to build Yuanwu for him to work. Notice that in the video he's 40/40
weird, for me mortefi performs way better than yuanwu, my mortefi is s6 tho, but still, the diff is huge
@@naunau311 yah I started testing around with him today at lvl 40 with all level 0 echoes/weapon/skills and the team performs literally so good 💀 its crazy how easy he is
Please more of these videos. Such a relief having ultrawide videos. Thumbs up
EZ subscribed. The most effective explanation for the yuanwu team, ive been struggling with rotations and now i know what to do.
Man, your videos are so pure, without being overwhelming clickbait crap, it's enjoyable to watch. Keep up the good work ❤
Atleast Yuanwu gets some shine here, because his animations AREN'T CHEAP, instead his kit is and I just feel bad when he looks so cool to play yet weak in numbers 😢.
Right? It's like he's a hybrid/supporter, not main dps.... Baizhi is also weak asf, because she can't nuke like Havoc Rover 🤦🏻♀️
his combat animation is one of the best in the game, look at how he move during fight, that's 5* animation right there, feel so power full and satisfying to combo.
@@vrika4280 your great sacrasm still misses the main point. His numbers are bad for support/subdps. Every other support like Danjin/Mortefi /Snahua do way more dmg + better buffs. He is concerto is also too slow for him to be a defense option with his shield.
So far he is only useful in Jinshi teams but not cos he is good ofc. Jinshi just cares only for 1 single element of his kit. Even healing is from the weapon.
@@ixirion It misses nothing, if he is not designed that way, of course he is not going to do Danjin damage either. The character is a 4 star with a niche. They are not going to be what you want them to be, this isn't Barbie nor some other type of rpg.
@@vrika4280 what a stupid take XDDD
he wasnt designed that way. his dmg was way higher in CBT. they overnerfed him without changing his kit. moreover if anyone with brain look at his kit he is designed for longer field time. ppl play him at lv 1. with Jinshi. thats not niche. thats a bad kit design
I know this has been overly repetitive amongst the comments, but thank you for the very useful and detailed possible rotations and comparisons on how to manage the team. This kind of quality hasn't been amongst the content creators these days - and not only according to me, but the others clearly agree on this. Great job man, not that it's a job perfomance review, i dunno how to say it in english, now great work also sounds like it's a job...
Great video..? Well played? Kudos? Congratulations.. yeah those lines 😅😅
could you make a guide on baizhi rotations? there arent any around and my verina is getting stretched really thin among my teams, I've tried baizhi but I think im doing something wrong for her concerto to regenerate so slowly and would like to know if there are some tech I can use to skip long skill animations
I think with her you should do the aforementioned zig zag rotation even with Yuanwu because you can’t build concerto every Jinhsi rotation, too expensive. A bit like the Mortefi rotation you still swap back to her every time even just to use a skill in order to help speeding up her concerto generation next rotation. At a baseline you need liberation > BA1-4 > E to fill most of the concerto gauge, you then finish with a few more normals if necessary.
I am playing WuWa with "random bullshit go" playstyle.
THIS IS THE WAY
Remember, guys, when many CC put that guy in C tier now. He is top support. *This is why I always say WuWa doesn't need a tier list.*
Take your time to learn their mechanics and have an understanding of their skills. You will be surprised to discover that the 4 stars are secretly 5 stars in disguise.
Ok so outside of jinhsi, who actually wants yuanwu in their team? NO ONE. This is called a niche exception, why would anyone be building yuanwu before jinhsi with Crystal ball knowledge?
Sorry but, you use Heron on Verina and swap cancel to Yuanwu ? Heron's buff only applies to the next character, that's not good, no ?
I think Heron only buff the next character if current char use thier outro, and in this video i see he only swap cancel from verina to yuanwu but does not trigger outro, only after conplete does yuanwu things and swap back to verina, he do the verina’s outro to jinhsi, so i think jinhsi still take a buff from heron
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@@sylphial ok makes sense, didn't know that, thanks for the heads up, unlike the other comment that just posted an emote trying to look cool (and failed)
@@040films8 💩
You don't need Yuanwu build, but if you want to break and generate more stacks getting ER is good
what set is best for him?
@@icynelzenjansarol5415 yuanwu with jinhsi needs rejuvenating glow with the originite so yuanwu can buff jinhsi everytime yuanwu heals with originite since Yuanwu has hard time generating concerto
@@icynelzenjansarol5415 You're watching a video telling you what set to put on him...
I tried the jinhsi, verina, and yuanwu comp and it worked so well! I was finally able to 3 star the impermanence heron stage in the TOA
Clear times
Mortefi - 3:36 (2 missed nuke crit)
Yuanwu - 3:58 (all crit)
Yin Lin - 3:29 (4 missed nuke crit)
soo yinlin teams better right
I have a very well built Yinlin, but you’re making me think I should build yuanwu
yuanwu doesn't need investment to work well with Jinhsi, no worries :) if you WANT to build him, though, go ahead of course
@@Benalecjohn I have been trying to use Yuanwu with Jinhsi. I just have to be careful because he has so little HP right now he’ll get one shot easily. I did end up pulling Jinhsi in the final few days of her banner, and while she has allowed me to get another dorito in the tower that I wasn’t able to get before even though she isn’t even fully built. I still kinda regret it. I just find her play style really clunky. Maybe once she’s fully built and doing tons of damage I’ll start to enjoy it.
Literally no crits in your last run with Yinlin and still cleared, i love Jinshi so much
I just want to commend you on the quality of your videos! Very well done, great info and a treat to watch
Thanks for this! I was breaking my head how to team her up. Yuanwu certainly makes a match to consider, especially because i’m broke 😂
thats why i couldnt get 3 star in the TOWER: I am so late watching this. i am not effectively utilizing the intro outro skill.
yuanwu 4sure cause he is FREEEEEE, quick forte accumulator (yep he charge forte approximately yinlin) and if u dont have morte rc4 pls pick yuanwu
Whats the main stat and sub stat do i use for the moonlit verina on yuanwu team? is it 4cost Healing bonus (ER substat), x2 3cost ER (ER substat), x2 1cost ATK (ER substat)?
Yuanwu is the most comfortable to play
required zero investment, heal, good coordinate attack only from skill unlike mortefi and yinlin.
But i still prefer to play jinshi with yinlin just because she's hot XD
My Yinlin is pretty decently built, but running Jinhsi + Yinlin + Verina shaves 30s off of Heron vs the Yuanwu version.
can you try to showcase these runs again ? I suppose both your Yinlin and Mortefi have better investment now, because my lvl 80 yinlin with lvl 8 talents outperfroms yuanwu by a lot currently
Oh btw I get full stacks of normal rotation of starting with verina>mortefi>jihnsi. It's all in the video ^-^
followed everything in this guide but im not getting full stacks on my jinhsi and yuanwu after my first rotation. not sure why, can i send my gameplay to anybody to review?
Is it weird that I'm running a 4431 on my jinhsi? HAHAHAHAHAAHA 2pc spectro and lingering tunes HAHAHAHAHAHA
Yaunwu so lucky team all hit is 192k
Mortefi faster but not hit so much 76k
Yanlin so slow and need more time to outroskill
For me i take mortefi team fast and active 😊
Too bad that the enemy and my Jinshi always run away from the circle...
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Bruh 3 weeks later and now my yuanwu is fully built and treated like zhongli 😂
He never leaves my Jinhsi team
Attack-Spectro on her 3 cost will only be good if she has her weapon. You should be running double spectro on her
Finally someone that doesn't overlook S1 Mortefi
First few seconds of your video and you made a false statement. Mortefi definitely works and builds stacks for jihnsi
Fantastic video! please do something similar for changli i honestly don't know who to run her with to bring out the most damage outta her.
finally someone with verdant wpn, thanks for the video man! really helps😁
im so braindead that I used the 3 star weapon on weapon xp big fcking mistake i miss the good gauntlets for Yuanwu
man, i really should stop building characters without watching tutorials.
Me watching this knowing full well that im gonna make a 3 dps team without any chemistry whatsoever
I have a quick little video I posted to show my friend my rotation on tower with heron if you'd like to see how your statement is false
Does Rejuvation 5pc effect really work on the gauntlet's passive? Because it say's "Increase attack of all party members UPON HEALING ALLIES" not heal yourself.
Yes, it does work, the description does not match with how its function but yeah, it works.
You can easily test this yourself. Equip set, equip weapon, look at your ATK, punch something, look at it again.
Is there a replacement for verina to use for other teams? Spectro rover, baizhi?
Baizhi for sure!
Very educational but i dont see this being practical in tactical holograms, getting hit once means death
my Yuanwu is S5 though so this is a win win for me!!!!!!!
with the composition of the characters that you showed they helped me overcome the abyss with 3 marks on the floor 4 THANK YOU 😭
Not to mention that mortefi a6 gives 20% atk with heron echo it's 32% and with 5 star standard gun it's 42% so he's definitely not mid. He's definitely the best rn if you have him built. Yinlin only offers lib dmf which isn't super important on jihnsi. Yuanwu only offers stack buildings. No buffs to any of her dmg.
@@Theonlycupidgirl Hi, yes Mortefi is good with Jinhsi , he's just sequence locked. At S0 he's of no use since his LIBERATION doesn't generate stacks for Jinhsi in her incarnation state.
Heron gives dmg%, not atk.
At S5 and beyond mort is indeed very usable, in the vid you can see the stacks building up just fine, but not everybody has his sequences
this is a really REALLY good guide. very detail oriented. thank you!
it would have been nice if u showed the mephis gameplay instead of heron
Yinlin is my best built character by a landslide and for now i think i'll use her with Jinhsi (until she's up to speed with a solid build of her own) but later i plan on swapping to Yuanwu and using Yinlin with either Calcharo or Havoc MC. Yinlin is quite demanding when it comes to field time and she's not ideal in multiwave content
Yuanwu s4 It's very good to team up with Jinshi because it fills the forte gauge very quickly And also yuanwu s4 provides shields to the team
meanwhile my jinhsi has some of the worst echo stat luck. highest damage only at 169k on heron even with signature weapon.
mortefi is the worst justwhen Jinshi was released, I thought mortefi is the best partner for jinshi because of his ultimate akill
you basically missed crit 3 times on the run with yinlin
I felt like mortefi wasn't doing much, so it wasn't just me. I'm not sure who to replace him with since I prefer verina with yinlin, but I'll mess around.
The rotations aren't what I worry about though, even though I have E0S1 (I think is how it's laid out in this game) Jinshi, she does like 36k max in her skill. I don't get how every is doing well over 100k lol
thanks bruh finally defeated this mf
Where can i get that 3* gauntlet on yuanwu ? Can i craft it or from chest ? Also thanks for the video my man. Very informative ❤
It's a gacha one. You most definitely have it already.
@@nitogame ok thanks man
Taoqi rotation?:( she is best for final skill
soo i only started playing wuwa seriously during jinhsi’s release because i fell in love with her gameplay and story, and always had a hard time understanding the different gameplay and mechanics in wuwa so this was really helpful. jinhsi is honestly so fun to play with especially with the dragon puke nuke
Really hoping after changli we get another support like verina its rough having to resort to baizhi on some tower floors man
Awesome guide. Will definitely sub and keep an eye out for future videos. Can you also include builds at the end? Thanks.
And the most important point about Yuanwu is that if you get his S4, you get a shield based on all his defense, and he's the only one so far who can drain the defense bar of enemies without parrying. He becomes a solid 4-star sub-dps tank... This shield allows you to play more comfortably with Verina and Janhsi
I know this sound random but can i know if i use jiyan sign on calcharo, should i use atk+electro 3 cost echoes? Also your video is so amazing really help me understand how to do jinshi and yuanwu rotation. keep up the good work
in terms of overall dps of whole team who is the best?
I think they say mortefi s4 single target, yinlin multiple targets
I believe Yuanwu is the best in Single Target. And Yinlin in AOE scenario.
For Calcs prove Jinhsi Discord calcs Yuanwu the Highest with 6% difference to Yinlin (this is single target). CN CC also calcs Yuanwu as the best Teammates for Jinhsi. They really value Single target a lot in there because middle tower and the end of left and right side is almost all about Boss
Mortefi is lacking behind yinlin and Yuanwu. Even at S6, His number still behind Yuanwu. Basically he got outplay in every cases, In single target Yuanwu its better, In AOE Yinlin Its better and give some liberation buff too. This on top a lot of people not have e4 mortefi in the first place
Damnnnn verina reallly is a must have character
No, you can get away with baizahe and yunwu but you probably not get 3 stars or need jinhsi crit all time
@@mbk0mbk yea but she's so meta, and since we got lots of free stuffs, I bet everyone get her so.
can someone can please tell me wich mainstats and substats I need on the echos of Verina and Yuanwu ? Idkkk
Im a masochist so my team consist jinhsi yuan wu mortefi😂
What the use of healer if u can just evade? 😂
Anyway, my aim is max jinhshi forte each team rotation
the fact that i have verina on glow set and yuanwu on moonlit has made my jinhsi teams so miserable to use and i just can’t enjoy her the way i should be, so i’m gonna switch out the sets like you did and see how it goes
Wait haron buff is for the next swap char right? Or all team?
@@bahrudinhidayatullah8238 for the next INTRO/OUTRO swap within 15s, not just any swap. So nothing is wasted on Yuanwu :)
if your yinlin is well build, better use yinlin
I can’t believe you clutch rolled crit at +25 on three of your pieces haha.
do yuanwu have ti use the healing set for it to work ? or it can just be the other way around verina using healing set and yuanwu using moonlit set
yuanwu in moonlit set would need field time to proc outro skill and benefit from the set bonus
@@vjaay6748 ohh yeah i forgot that, damn time to farm some moonlit set again i guess for verina
If you were to Moonlit on Yuanwu, you'll need Marcato Gauntlet to speed up the concerto (4 star fist weapon with energy regen). You also can trigger its effect once every 20 seconds, so there might be a time where it doesn't proc.
Quite easier to let Verina be the one holding moonlit, but if you want to, it can be done in reverse, just a bit clunkier.
My English is very bad, tell me Yuanwu needs an exo for shine restoration?
If you're thinking of dps, Yinlin is the best, her damage also counts. I've been testing out a lot with Jinhsi, Yinlin, Verina comp, its definately the best. Instead of swaping in a zigzag manner, its best to have Yinlin on the void thunder to maximaze her own damage and rotate from Jinhsi to Yinlin to verina. It is faster and less headache inducing this way. the moonlit buff is not a thing in this rotation, and personally, i think using this echo set is a trap. If you are using moonlit on Yinlin its a matter of using her outro which take a while to charge up if there isnt a mob around. With Jinhsi having no downtime on her skill Lazer, you'd actually be losing dps in total with Yinlin having to charge up her concorto gauge for moonlit buff.
So the rotation would be like this.
Jinhsi does her usual combo ending with skill lazer,
outro to yinlin,
basic attack 1 2 3 cancel heavy, skill twice then judgemark,
swap to verina, ult, bell echo and get contorto gauge filled ASAP,
outro to Jinhsi combo and repeat.
as you can see everything becomes faster and simpler if you get Yinlin's outro out of the picture. With verina having insanely fast outro generation, you will always be introing into Jinhsi to activate her spectro set buff. if you have Yinlin's signature weapon, she become more bonkers. sorry for yapping so much.
TLDR Jinhsi and Yinlin should be played as a dual DPS instead of Yinlin rocking the support set.
Do you have a faster kill time than 1 minute on the Heron, though?
no i dont. but that come down to me not having her weapon. you've misjudged the showcase here. the yinlin team in this video could have cleared the heron a lot sooner. its just that jinhsi missed her crit twice on her lazer and once with her ult. whereas the yuanwu showcase had her criting every single lazer
@@prophet4722 yeah i already tested it and yinlin by far the BIS for jinshi BUT as not everyone have her yuanwu is BIS for F2P.
You're doing it wrong. Verina ~ Yinlin ~ Jihnsi is the right rotation.
@@boykalkula2300 I have tried that out. But jinhsi yinlin verina just felt faster and better. If I had the moonlit on yinlin, I’d definitely be going that route
Good video. I think it would also be helpful to cover rotations for Verina alternatives.
On your Yuanwu+Verina example, wouldn't the buff from the Echo and Set be just put towards Yuanwu, and not Jinhsi this way?
Both Moonlit 5P and Herons effect only go off upon OUTRO. Swap canceling to yuanwu doesn't waste any buffs because no outro was triggered.
You can safely cast Heron > swap to somebody else > come back > trigger outro onto the desired character
Without losing any of the buffs
Question, i somehow got s4mortefi so can ai just use mortefi and yuanwu, kinda dont want to take verina from my calcharo,
Would it still work almost the same as everyone else here?
Yes, you'd build Concerto on Mortefi instead of Verina in your team comp. I haven't tested it, but I'm sure it's workable. Rotations will just be a tad longer
I use that combo, with Mortefi at S3 only, and I like it, but at this point is more of a preference kind of situation. But, if you have Mortefi at S4 you get a really nice and smooth stacker for Jinshi, in my opinion.
At this point you can even do Yuanwu and Spectro Rover (S6), and just use Yuanwu as a pillar bot, while using Rover as a debuffer and ultimate spammer, all this while doing constant Jinshi rotations, usually at half bar. She has quite some interesting builds going on, just see what is fun to you and adapt to it.
@@joaoleal2912 does half bar with res shred better than full bar?
@@user-yk7vr3ve9b This is my subjective opinion, from what I have seen Jirieru doing, and from what I have also done with the same comp: No. I would even argue you do way less damage.
The thing is: You can clear Hazard 3 stars with it, if you min-max well. So in the end, you do less damage, but it's a different playstyle with the same character.
My main con to this team is that you need to build Rover with Moonlight, but you need to have good stats, so that at least you can provide damage with ultimate. Meanwhile, I'm doing very good damage with my full energy moonlight set (was my old Sanhua kit) on Mortefi, even using Cadenza (just to be fast and smooth), and my full energy + def Rejuvenating set on Yuanwu, using Type IV as a weapon (this set I switched from my Verina)
@@joaoleal2912 so it's better to use 2 coordinated attack team?
if yanwu is not gonna trigger intro/outro he is sub-optimal if Jinhsi has her signature weapon
@@zyzhang1130 verina triggers the outro instead. Jinhsi gets her intro. That activates the weapon passive
@@Benalecjohn 👍👍
What about Taoqi? Isn't she a good support for Jinhsi?
Hello could you try taoqi,yanwu,jinhsi?
Yanwu healing set and 3 star weapon ( no need to outro on him) then toaqi heron set try to fill her concerto as fast as possible then jinhsi
So I've been thinking since the heron is not gonna be always active as much as the healing 4pc set effect can we get away without casting the heron since yuanwu is really not benefiting from that heron buff?
In this rotation the turtle is much more useful even if it's not up all the time, cuz it buffs the whole team.
@@joejunior4700 the Heron buff only activates on outro, so it's not going to Yuanwu but to Jinhsi instead. I'd say it's quite important to have both bird and turtle
What's the best main stat if use heron on verina? Healing effect of energy regen?
@@dlz5709 4 cost can't roll ER. So either healing or atk in verinas case
What resolution do you play on
Who cares about rotation. As long as you can play your waifu
i don't have yinlin and vurina... so what other i should use?
Very underrated content creator. Please do a video on changli when she comes out.
i love it when yuanwu > yinlin
woohoo people are using Yuanwu
you probably can't answer this without a dps calculator but i'll ask for your take anyway: do you think there's a point of investment where it becomes worth it to build yuanwu with amity accord and the void thunder set over originite type iv and rejuvenating glow? maybe give him slightly more field time too to, say, cast his ult? or even in the highest case of investment is this a dps loss?
I tried him full dps with the thunder set and 3 star crit damage weapon but most I can get is 10-13k burst with his ultimate, maybe better when I try with amity accord that has a passive that boosts ultimate damage even more + bigger shields if s4, I mean he is playable and goes well with yinlin but no where near havoc mc and even less jinhsi
You're right we'd need a dps calculator :s really hard to tell, I tend to think it wouldn't be worth it and better to instead wait for jinxis dedicated support to release instead of investing too much into Yuanwu, but I don't want to spread lies either
I'm aiming for this since I have 2 pieces of Electro cost3 from Yinlin, so only need to tune Crit rate and DEF on him.
I'm too lazy to set up calculator, but in theory, I think you only need to add at most 3 more sec on Yuanwu for this, but you sacrifice healer set for void thunder.
Theorized rotation: Jinhsi Echo > Q.swap Yuanwu place totem > Healer with Moonlit rotation > Outro to Jinhsi > 1st Nuke -> Yuanwu forte (should filled by now from totem coord) -> Totem ->"Flautist here!" to gain concerto (Q.swap cancel to healer for some hit) > Yuanwu Ult -> Totem > Outro to healer.
I was thinking that using Flautist as main for Yuanwu could bridge the gap a bit so he can send his outro for extra gauge damage.
In theory, I don't think we would waste more than 3 seconds doing this, while you gain more passive coord lightning attack (it purely scales on Def), and his ult + totem break hits harder on enemy's stun gauge. Plus, for those not quite yet skilled at parrying, Yuanwu basic attacks SLAPs hard at parrying. You can break sequence and swap into him while fightning parry heavy boss like Memphis or Crownless.
What if I dont have that 3star weapon forr Yuanwu? I have Marcato and Amity Accord which are both 4star, which one is better?
that 3* is from gacha just throw a few pulls mam
100% f2p Tengo 12k de protos. Mi main es Danjin, llevo pity 60 asegurado. (Tengo todas las armas del permanente) Me recomiendan sacar a Jhinsi y su arma? O solo Jhinsi y le coloco el arma del permanente? No tengo yinlin ni jiyan
What is better 44111 or 43311
How is your jinshi getting healed on field while attacking?? Please reply I'm new to this game
Prolly Verina's S1
Is it viable to use yuanwu yinlin and jinhsi? Assuming no healing needed
Great video, love the concise explanations. The only thing I'd add is that Yuanwu requires quite a bit more quick swapping on some of the other floors/bosses to re-place the Wedge. Heron tends to sit around for long periods of time and that kinda makes the hat man shine. He's still the best despite this, it just adds a little more complexity because you need to find the right spots in your rotations and the bosses' movement to quickswap and Wedge. I also havn't seen how big the range increase is on his passive, it'll definitely fix at least part of this problem.
There should be an option in settings to adjust the UI for Ultra Wide users...
This is great, what vsts would you recommend?