MY THOUGHTS ON NEOPRONOUNS (UNPOPULAR LGBT OPINIONS) | NOAHFINNCE
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- WHAT DO I THINK OF NEOPRONOUNS? AND OTHER LGBT STUFF! THE GAYS! THE LESBIANS! THE BISEXUALS! THE ASEXUALS! I AM SO TIRED!
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Bisexual girls saying "I have a boyfriend, unfortianately" is a result of biphobia, but horrible to their boyfriends. As a bi girl with a lovely boyfriend, I'd never say anything like this to invalidate him and our relationship.
Same.
Only thing you sometimes hear me saying is that I sadly have never had a girlfriend. Cause ya know. Kinda hope it will not happen again since I've basically found my soulmate
same, im also a bi girl dating a guy and i would never say this- my boyfriend is bi and trans though so i very much feel as if im in a queer relationship and haven't internalized that biphobia which is good
Exactly. I'm also bi and I'm pretty sure that if I ever end up w someone, it's bec I like them. Why would they even date the guy if they'll treat them like shit.
Also misandri to like... If you dontvlike men, first check yourself, second, dont date them?
i need to work on that.... advice?
Noah: "We should stop saying 'no offense'". *Looks at the name of his channel*
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“The issue is with the transphobes, not the trans people.” Very well said, Noah.
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Your pfp is cool
@@middlemarch5507 hes a man whether u like it or not
Yeah, because trans people are perfect angels who can do no wrong. Okay dumdum. 😒
I wonder how you react to trans people who call out this pronoun/neopronoun BS.
this used to be true, but now it’s not even about wanting to be treated fairly. people are picking and choosing pronouns and fake genders like pins and accessories-and that’s literally the opposite of what we’ve worked so hard to get to. to get to a point where we are taken seriously and people realize we’re just regular human beings who were born with a brain that didn’t match our bodies. but now that it’s “cool” to be trans, and everything can be a gender (because cats totally are a gender and describe gender) and everything and anything can be a pronoun (ive seen someone seriously use vag/vags/vagself as well as piss/pisses/pissself and shit/shits/shitself). any logical human being can look at that and say that’s not how it works. gender isn’t a cool thing you get to choose, pronouns aren’t a special little pin you wear and switch out when you get bored, gender is an innate sense of self that everyone is born with. people who use neopronouns or xenogenders or don’t have dysphoria…they make people who suffer with discrimination look like a joke. i don’t associate myself with the lgbt community anymore because i lost friends because they started hearing this shit and thinking i was like that too. my family has stopped taking me seriously because they think i’m going to be a cat gender. my fucking girlfriend left me because she didn’t want to be with someone who was like them, even though i’m not. honestly, transphobes have a good reason for hating queer people now, because we really are making our community a delusional fantasy land where you can just be whatever you want and no one can say anything to oppose you.
personally i don’t care what a person’s pronouns are unless they are offensive other than that i don’t care because it doesn’t affect me
edit if your mad about what i said get over yourself i don’t care
Yeah exactly!
is your pfp D'Angelo Wallace
Well, it does affect me if I have to use it to refer to people. Maybe it's easier for you because English is a very forgiving language when it comes to that, but using neo pronouns, or even just gender neutral pronouns in other languages just doesn't work.
@@__Oku__ which languages you either copy pasted this from google translate or you speak english which means your wrong and what someone identifies as has absolutely NO affect on you your well being or anything if you don’t like their pronouns then don’t fuck with them simple as that
@@levi5862 hell yeaaaaa
“it’s not that deep” that basically summarizes this video lmao and i’m here for it
Here are some of my unpopular opinions:
There is 100% a lot of toxicity within the LGBTQ+ community (with lots of lesbians being biphobic, people invalidating other labels, etc)
There is way too much pressure on putting a label on your sexuality or gender identity. People will often try to either invalidate you because you choose not to label yourself or will just question you about what you like and then try to give you a label themselves. (I say this as an unlabeled person myself)
A lot of people like to complain about stereotypes and then give themselves and others stereotypes. E.x will call themselves a “typical gay”, “typical masc lesbian”, etc.
Sometimes people asking for our pronouns feels more like a way for them to label/judge you more than they actually care about how to address you, wether they’re part of the LGBTQ+ community or not.
no bc i hate when ppl act like the lgbt community is so great the amount of times someones been called transphobic and said "im not transphobic im bi" like girl those two have no corrolation at all... mf never seen blaire white even trans ppl can be transphobic... .
I agree, technically I'm pan & nb, but I've never really felt comfortable with categorising/labelling myself, and don't really care what pronouns people use for me, so I feel like I'm not really welcome in the community a lot of times... I don't put that much importance on my own gender or sexuality, but because of this, people in the community accuse me of faking for attention etc just because I don't feel as strongly about labels/pronouns as they do!
Its not too hard to put a label on sexuality or gender
Sexuality: Homosexual, Bisexual, Asexual, Heterosexual,
Gender: Male, Female
It's that simple
@@grumpiesttitan7930 not really my dude. "Female" and "male" are not genders. They're sexes. And I'm attracted to everyone, not just men and women. Stfu with your transphobia
@@mezziriggs3873 exactly! There's so much more in life than gender and sexuality. I wanna just love who I love and live my life rather than spending sooooo much time figuring out who I like, what my preferences are, etc.
The most interesting thing about neo pronouns that I've noticed (especially non human and noun based) is it's a huge part of the autism community due to feeling disconnected/left out of the human experience. I myself use They/He as a Non-Binary person but as an autistic person I understand the comfort that using disconnected pronouns could bring, even a reclamation of being seen as inhuman.
same!!
As an autistic person stick person I did not realize that that was that was a reason and I just got really confused when I realized that people use nouns as pronouns I'm just pronounced So thanks for clarifying
as an autistic neopronoun user, I agree! I don't personally see my gender as male/female/nonbinary so finding neopronouns that I really liked that I feel fit me and the way I view myself was great :]
I definitely feel this as an autistic person. I identify as a trans guy and use he/him (and maybe they/them but idk yet) but I also feel a lot of apathy and disconnect from my gender so I could totally get why neopronouns would feel best to some people. Plus gender can be fun! Sometimes playing with different pronouns/names/gender expressions can be affirming and also can be a little silly and fun. I also feel like people who use neopronouns are often demonized as these hypersensitive "snowflakes" but really everyone I have met who uses neopronouns is very aware of the fact that they can take some adjustment. It's just another way to demonize non-conforming trans people by separating them from the "normal" trans people.
I feel like using neo pronouns would just further alienate people from the rest of society. It inadvertently creates an additional language barrier between a neo pronoun user (wether autistic or not) and a non neo pronoun user. This would simply lead people further away from the ones that use those pronouns.
And in the case of autistic people, who already have issues with socializing and communication, this creates a further divide or sense of otherness.
hey there ✌🏻
I’m german and this discussion is quite interesting for me, bc the german language has no such thing as a nonbinary pronoun like “they”. We only have the equivalent of “she/he”. Sooo as a no binary person in Germany you HAVE to use neopronouns or use no pronouns at all. With that in mind, I really like it when people experiment with different neo pronouns. Some use “they” and then people get offended bc it’s an englisch word … 🙃
This is so interesting. There isn't even a plural they? How do you refer to a group of multiple people that you're not part of?
Just asking, even "Es" isn't used as a non-binary pronoun? I'm currently learning German at school and they say to us that "Es" is a "Neutral" pronoun. I always think about that but I never really discovered the answer :/
Now that you said it, I never thought about how other languages like German dealt with they/their pronouns.
So in that regard many nonbinary people speaking those languages would have to use neo pronouns. So saying that neo pronouns are extra or invalid is very ignorant.
@@caju8557 Not a native speaker, but when I took German I brought this up to my professor and she explained that "es" is generally used for things with low/no autonomy like very small children, animals, and inanimate objects, not the kind of thing you'd want to use for an adult human (unless they asked you to like with "it" in English)
@@jasperchappel9379 Plural pronouns are the same pronouns as she/her, annoyingly enough. The grammatical difference comes from the suffixes in the associated verbs. And even the more neutral "es" (it) takes the masculine form when possessive or when in the dative case. The German language is exhaustingly gendered, it drives me up the wall.
"The voice" is literally just... my voice. The one I grew up with. A lot of gay guys just have to pitch it down in public to avoid harassment, and "the voice" is just them relaxing.
I don't know how or why so many gay guys coincidentally happen to _have_ a similar cadence, I would happily trade it up if it didn't require so much training and effort to do so...
I feel like way more straight guys would "sound gay" if not for society-wide homophobia leading them to be terrified of being perceived that way and training themselves to talk differently
@@Diamondelight92 !!!
I remember when u talked negatively about different identities a few years ago and I felt pressed over that back then and thought about unfollowing you. So I was kinda scared when I read this title and now I'm SO RELIEVED omg that honestly made my day ^^ also a very good example of people changing views/opinions over time💕 we're all evolving✌
A life is supposed to grow, change...evolve..that's our only goal...is to become.
YES!! (i just wrote a similar comment before i read yours lol)
Omg same
Yeah he became stupid :(
@@grumpiesttitan7930 why do u think that way?
On asking for pronouns: I think it’s a lot better to introduce yourself with your pronouns rather than just going “what are your pronouns” bc it gives them the opportunity to share theirs, but if they aren’t comfortable doing so there isn’t any expectation for them to give you their pronouns. Straight up asking ppl for their pronouns can back them into a corner where they’re forced to answer something they might not want to, so I think it’s just a lot nicer to state yours and they can either say theirs too or not
Yesssss
yess this!! because I'm not always comfy sharing my pronouns around certain people, and if you just share yours I know you will be more likely to accept mine
^^^This. I was once closeted in a situation where pronouns were mandatory, and so it was like "well do I out myself to literally everyone, or consciously misgender myself while simultaneously telling everybody else to misgender me?" Ultimately I came out before I was ready in order to explain why it was a problem, and how they should be optional. To further prove your point, somebody near me said his pronouns on the first day of class in school, and that gave me the courage to say my own (before I realized that I passed and was full stealth after just three months on T). I didn't feel forced. I didn't even think about it, but if he hadn't said his pronouns then I might have had a very different semester.
thanks so much for the idea i’ll definitely use that in the future
As a trans woman and a teacher, this is really important. So many teachers ask their class for everyone's pronouns in an attempt to be inclusive, but an authority figure demanding that you either out yourself or misgender yourself/lie to them can be terrifying. So I just introduce myself with name and pronouns and then a lot of students feel comfortable responding by introducing themselves with their names and pronouns, but if they don't, it's not conspicuous.
Re: the length of LGBTQIA+, this is why I like "GSRM" (Gender, Sexuality, and Romantic Minorities) because it is truly all-encompassing!
wait wow that is actually a good way to sum it up
Wait I like that a lot better cause it's quicker
wait i love that
How widespread is that acronym?
Yes yes yes
As an A in LGBTQIA+ I don't mind when people shorten for brevity, though I would prefer people make sure they keep the Q and the plus sing. But what bothers me is when people suggest we should ditch the longer version altogether or make jokes about how the initialism keeps getting longer. It's longer for the sake of inclusion and it does feel really great to be included in the initialism when there is so much ace/aro exclusion in the community. So when people poke fun at it or suggest we get rid of it, whether they know it or not, or meant to or not, they are taking away from inclusion.
Theres also the people who say the A stands for ally which is worse
I totally agree. as an asexual demiboy I usually say lgbtq+ because that's what I've heard when I first learned about it and what just feels natural to me if that makes sense. i don't rly care about what other people call it tho as long as they don't purposely exclude someone and keep the plus
as a fellow A, I use lgbtq+ and feel so so so excluded when people only use lgbt. i hope we normalize the usage of lgbtq+
Agreed. I prefer using the longer LGBTQIA+ acronym because it feels more inclusive, but use LGBTQ+ when I don't have enough characters to type it out, or if it takes too long. As long as the Q+ is included, I'm okay.
The As in the community I know (let me know if I forgot any) are Asexual Aromantic Agender Abrosexual. I don't get why the community doesn't always want Asexual and Aromantic in the community so what if they are heterosexual or heteoromantic as well as asexual or aromantic it's part of the community too and it matters
"The issue is the transphobes, not the trans people."
Exactly. Transphobes are going to be transphobic regardless of how unique trans people are. Do not blame trans people for transphobia.
They won’t though. A lot of people are fine with trans people who want to just live their lives, but are not okay with froggender he/they/it/goth/bunself people
@@apollo6326 But don't people who go by labels and pronouns like that just want to live their lives as well? I mean, they're not hurting anyone by doing so, so I see no reason not to accept it. Plus, the typical cis transphobe doesn't even know about labels and pronouns like that. I think most of the people who don't accept those types of labels/pronouns are other trans/genderqueer people. While I don't go by those types of labels/pronouns, I really don't see any reason not to just let people do what they want as long as they're not hurting anyone.
@@apollo6326 if their support is conditional, they are transphobic pos
@@KittyCat-we8xi My problem with xeno/neogenders is that they're contorting the classification of gender to a degree that it's meaningless. Xenogenders especially, as they are specifically not a part of the gender spectrum, which in everyday life and even in intersectional feminist circles is the norm definition of "gender" in my experience, if xeno-genders are a form of identity, it shouldn't be gender. For neo-genders it's more just the idea that it's making the classification of gender so inherently individualistic that the category of "gender" is essentially meaningless to anyone outside of the individual. I understand that everyone's interpretation of their gender identity is individualistic and unique, but with the 3 categories, M, F and NB, we can at least break that down into something that we can use for utility, if everyone has their own gender, and that gender isn't even tied to the most understood definition of gender(which is my opinion), then gender can't really be used as a classification system or category, which means it's pretty much useless to society. I will always just refer to xeno/neo pronouned people by their name or as them/they as I would just classify their gender as NB. In terms of someone having their own individual word for their gender/ gender identity, I don't really care, it's when we start trying to change the definition of gender to the point where it becomes meaningless that I disagree with it.
@@suckmyduck7029 The thing is, gender being classified as M, F, NB is completely meaningless to us autistic people who identify with xeno/neo genders. Those classifications mean absolutely nothing to us and we just do not fit into any of those boxes. So where those have utility to you, they have none to us, and using xenogenders to express ourselves to other autistic folk and other people is much much more useful to us in terms off describing ourselves and our genders.
Noah, I'm glad that I found your channel. I've been able to understand LGBT a lot better and have felt a lot more confident in myself. I have a homophobic upbringing and was nearly raised to be one but I've been ignoring the homophobia and stand with the community and have learned a lot more about gender, sexuality, pronouns etc. Thank you
about the lgbtqia+, i dont think most queer people and people who fall under the + really mind if they aren't in the acronym as long as the plus is there. it's a mouthful, we get it, just make sure we're included in your actual statements.
yeah I’m asexual, I usually just say lgbtq because lgbtqia+ is very difficult to say and can make things a bit clunky
@@bigmanrui3503 i'm asexual and use lgbtq too!
Yeah as a pansexual, I'm ok being in the plus lol
Yeah I agree -aroace person
A lot of times I just say queer community
I guess with neopronouns, the issue isn't even about neos such as "ze/zir" or "xe/xem" that people find weird. But with pronouns that come from objects, animals, etc, that's what kinda neopronouns people don't understand, or find weird
@@kairat8365 aren't xenopronouns just pronouns that "can't be expressed through human language"?
@@kairat8365 i think that's just xenogender, labels are confusing
Yeah which is kinda odd because xenopronouns fall under the neopronoun spectrum. (People will say they support neos but then say they don't support xenopronouns).
i dont understand the pokepronouns tbh.
In my online interactions it seems to be mainly people with autism who use object/ animal pronouns. IMO, I can understand why neurodiverse individuals use these legitimately, but can’t really understand how a neurotypical person could.
PSA: Pronouns are like names. Sometimes you immediately get someone's name and never have to ask them for it or remember it again. Sometimes someone has a unique name that you have to learn, and you might slip up sometimes. You use someone's name to refer to them and the same goes with their pronouns. Yes, neopronouns are made up words. Every word is a made up word. If someone's words are too hard for you, don't talk about them.
love this take
@zyumi del rey .。*♡ yeah I am genderfluid but still can’t talk for every genderfluid person but in my case I just use all pronouns others use just one set of pronouns and other yeah change their pronouns regularly
@@vsconcllos i speak spanish too and i have heard people using the neutral neopronoun elle which i know probably wasn't your main point but i do think it's worth mentioning
@@vsconcllos i speak spanish too and you can definitely use neo pronouns just the same as you can use them in English and ive seen a lot of hispanic nb people use them. Its not so hard.
Clearly, you don't understand how language works. The "issue" with neopronouns is so first world problem. And it could never work with other languages
I think the "valid" talk comes from therapy/psychology and comes from a place to validate other's thoughts feelings as real and important. Which is essential in therapeutic relationships but also aids in recovery when we've been shown so little empathy. So when people say that's "not valid" or "invalid" I think people are taking language they hear in communities that are recovering but don't or understand the original empathetic intention behind the language and use it to further do damage to people.
I too got over my neopronoun bad opinion too. Because in the end of the day, transphobia is the issue not different trans people,
Edit:
Haaard agree! I'm a trans man and it's Super annoying when cis people ask me what my pronouns are,just makes me feel invalid? I dunno if I'm wrong for these feelings.
I mean if they ask they might just be asking to make sure.. because like lets say if someone went by they/them using he/him wouldnt be right.. not all nb people look androgynous and not everyone who does is nb..
I wouldnt say your wrong because thats how you feel about it but thats my reasoning/thinking
Plus tbh i think including your pronouns when introducing yourself (even if youre cis) should be more normalised.. not to weed out the trans people but so it yknow.. becomes something more normal
Well, they are trying not to misgender you! It's an effort to be kind to you. If you were nonbinary, wouldn't you prefer someone ask rather than assume your pronouns?
@@SpecialInterestShow hey there, I guess it's just a part of my stupid dysphoria where sometimes if people don't assume I'm male right away just makes me feel kind of bad about myself silly I know
@@yakuzaman5074 I understand. I suppose that's something for you to work on. It you have a therapist perhaps that'd be a nice thing to bring up! /gen
It constantly feels like when people are asking "what are your pronouns", they're just trying to figure out a way to judge your transition or presentation, even within the trans community.
EDIT: I am in no way trying to invite a lack of caring about pronouns or the trans community. I myself am non-binary but feel terribly uncomfortable sharing my pronouns as I’m still navigating them and coming out to certain people. This comment is expressing frustration with my experiences either being outed by people via pronouns, or forced to prove a level of trans-ness I wasn’t comfortable with while figuring out my identity. I fully respect when people want to share their pronouns, and completely understand the grey area that can come with ambiguity. It’s not perfect, everyone is different, and not everyone is going to be happy with a particular phrasing or question. I am simply relaying a frustration that I resonated with that Noah shared. I fully acknowledge I could’ve been clearer initially, but also want to clear the air with my intentions.
never heard somebody say that but YES
in the small group of people i know i've just asked their pronouns straight up when meeting them the first time..my intentions weren't to judge their presentations (i use she/they pronouns). I don't want people to feel subconsciously like i'm judging them...is there anything else i can do to make them feel like their not judged?
Actually all of the cases I encountered were just people like Nia Sanjeev that just ask everybody it and are very non judgemental and open about it and often don't use the "normal" pronounse that one would assume :o So I always feel very warm and included when someone asks my pronouns, but it also never happened in a way that you guys describe it (or I ddint notice) so yeah
That's exactly how it feels I've never had someone put words to it before!
At the same time, there also are people who just make it a basic introduction thing.
Though personally I lean into "This is my name, these are my pronouns" so that people who wanna clarify can whereas people want assumption also get that.
I actually have to say that I like the non-binary flag. I might be biased though cause I'm nb
same thoughts , the n.b. flag is probably one of my favorite flags
Same. It’s one of my favourite flags
I'm not nb and I like the flag
@@starwarswizard5841 same
The Wario flag is one of my fav flags and I’m not even enby
i recently had an argument with a “friend” over the validity of non-binary people and the usage of neopronouns so i really appreciate this
What was their opinion on it
Hi Noah! Happy holidays! Just wanted to comment to help the algorithm, and say that I like your sweater :) also, if anyone wants to rant about a hyperfixation that they have, I’d love to hear about it, this is a safe space :]
YEAHHHH I LOVE HIS SWEATER
@zyumi del rey .。*♡ ooh, what is that? I’d love to hear your thoughts
i have an ace attorney hyperfixation rn and currently its focused very strongly on Godot so i made a lotta hcs for him
this will contain spoilers for ace attorney trials and tribulations btw
and i haven't finished the game so if any stuff is inaccurate then im sorry
(a lot of these are mia x godot)
mia always used to make him hot chocolate in the winter which he hates but he pretended to like cause she always looked so happy giving him it
he has a problem looking in mirrors because every time he thinks theres a stranger there because he still doesn't see himself as himself
after he was poisoned he is always paranoid of any food or drink he's given and only takes stuff from trusted people
he drinks scalding hot coffee because of nerve damage and the burning is the only sensation he feels much of anymore
he pretends he likes really hardcore metal songs but loves soft romance songs
he has an engagement ring he was going to give mia still in his drawer and he sometimes wears it to feel better
him and mia both got their ears pierced together on their second date
godot doesn't fear death, because if it happens he knows he'll be together with his love soon
he has punched multiple people for making fun of mia before but has never punched someone for making fun kf him directly
no matter how long passes, godot always wakes up and goes to cuddle mia but is always extremely sad theres just air
hes never worked up the courage to ask a spirit medium to contact mia because hes ashamed of how he is now
@@silvershadow1271 that’s so cool! I love your head cannons!!! I’ve never played that game before, but your head cannons for them are so interesting! Sounds so fun :)
@zyumi del rey .。*♡ somehow same…🙃
Thoughts before watching the video: please don’t dissappoint me on this
Updating after watching
Thoughts after watching: Thank you Noah, you’re awsome. ✨
AWWWWW YOUR PFP
Yeah he disappointed us, how can someone be r*tarded enough to use Xenogenders or Neopronouns?
@@grumpiesttitan7930 I can't believe I'm seeing you in another comment answering in a more aggressive manner. I hope you understand that not every 'real' autistic person is like you, yes we understand gender but some of us don't relate to them and it's simple like that! Makes you comfortable to identify as such so why go out of your way to fit into something that will never accomodate you truly? The r word is a slur and I'm glad if it hasn't been used towards you, because it definitely has been used lots towards me and most of the ND community and it is quite insulting to call people by it, so I understand you're trying to be cool for your peers or maybe just to make yourself feel better, but truth be told, trying to hurt random people online isn't gonna make anything better in any way. Be true to who you are and live your life, you will always find like minded people and there's no need to call people names for not agreeing with you. The world is an awesome place with a lot of diversity, we shouldn't expect everyone to fit in a box?
@@grumpiesttitan7930 Come back when you’re educated
@zyumi♡ Most the xenos claim to be trans. And retard is almost always used to call someone stupid. If retard is a slur so is stupid.
And by actual I mean people who don't self diagnose.
“Trans people shouldn’t pay taxes”
Me, a trans: *I totally agree.*
Okay (I disagree but your opinion is still valid.)
@@october3706 Bruh no it isn't, it's obviously a joke and the opinion is supposed to be dumb
@@suckmyduck7029 how clueless do you think I am? Lmao I know it's a joke chill
"I believe in equality, i dont want more rights than other peo-" "okay then, go to work, pay rent, do your taxes" "uuuuhhhnnn but im so pretty and so weird im like a two headed baby cow i wasnt meant to live in a post industrial society i was meant to frolic around a garden and paint and have a sexy rich man paint me, I should be naked making flower crowns for two other girls with long flowing hair - i am not a normal person im a muse, a god, a servant, get away from me"
@@sanriodeppressionthermos8602 What
Honestly, i was really nearvous when i read the title. I'm so glad that you're such an accepting person. Thank you.
Was is this flag on the left
@@ХристинаДенева-щ1л genderfaun!
@@meow_c0s whats that?
@@ХристинаДенева-щ1л Someone who is genderfluid who fluctuates between non-binary, agender, and male. I identify as this too :')
@@ХристинаДенева-щ1л under the genderfluid umbrella. Shifts between male and genderless genders but no feminine genders
My thing with neo-pronouns is that I struggle remembering how to use them. I usually call people who use neo-pronouns they/them if I accidentally forget. Like say my friend used cloud/cloudself and left their keys, I would say “look they left their keys.” Not because I’m trying to invalidate them and I’m trying to learn and work on it but it’s just hard for me
The thing is, neo/xeno-pronoun users know that their pronouns can be clunky, so they typically use multiple sets. I know a lot of neopronoun users but not a single one of them exclusively goes by xyz-self, they almost always also go by a more standard pronoun as well like he/she/they or it. On top of this there are several websites that help people learn how to conjugate custom neoprouns. Your argument(?) is honestly a non-issue
@@nyxie664 ok good to know :D sometimes I get worried haha
@@justwhy9427 I didn’t know there were websites! I check them out
Rvrcxe pronouny is prob the most popular
@@justwhy9427 ok thanks!
I've had a pretty shit day so far and I was really effing depressed because I was being misgendered right and left. But then you updated and I'm much, much happier. To get to my point you make me, someone who's not out to the whole world yet, feel seen and validated. Thank you so, so, so much.
I hope that the misgendering stops my friend 🙏 it's not ok if its intentional but its ok if they do it accidentally and correct themselves afterwards.
Personally as a bisexual woman who's in a very long-term relationship with a bisexual man, in regards to the last question I actually consider our relationship heterosexual. Does that mean either of our sexualities are invalidated? Obviously not, and neither of us would ever consider ourselves straight, but we are a relationship consisting of a man and a woman, so by definition that makes us a heterosexual couple.
So it's like neither of us are heterosexual by any means, but it's still a heterosexual relationship. Same with bisexual men in a relationship. Saying "ah, they're both men so they are gay" isn't correct, but saying "ah, they're two men who happen to be in a relationship, so by definition they are a gay couple" is..if that makes any sense.
Agree
I understand your point but maybe it would make more sense if you ended with "ah, they are two men who happen to be in a relationship, so by definition they are a homosexual couple"
I agree, but if the couple has a preference not to say their relationship is straight then obviously, people should listen to that
the sun and moon still exist when we can’t see them. just because it’s not visible to someone doesn’t make it any less valid
It's definitely up to each individual couple how they understand their relationship, but I think what the original opinion was trying to get at is that a relationship can be heterosexual AND have queer people in it. So a relationship that appears cishet can be a queer relationship if the queer people in it feel more comfortable saying that and shouldn't be excluded on the basis of looking cishet.
11:12 as someone who used Neo-prouns, i absolutely love your opinion on us. I can not tell you how mant times I've been called "faking being trans" by other trans people, Neo-pronouns have not hurt you in any way shape or form, and the fact that other transgender people that i feel safe around have called me a "faker" or sometimes worse just breaks my heart. Im so greatful for how kind you were❤
I personally have too much fear just giving my pronouns when I introduce myself to ppl bc I feel like it outs me :( like, if I don't know 100% that someone is respectful and accepting of trans ppl, there's no way I'd offer up my pronouns with no prompting. if someone asks, I'd be happy to give mine, but it's so scary to just give them.
Yeah, I feel like you have to be in such a good place in your transition to be able to do that with confidence. I usually just avoid using the other persons pronouns altogether until I get something that’d give me a clue.
“I’m such a Starbucks girl, you have no idea.” - probably she/her
*friend of the person comes over* “Oh, Daniel. There you are!” - probably he/him.
“My name is Aubrey” - gender neutral name, stick to they/them.
*friend pats person on the back* “Reese here is a real chef, they can cook just about anything.” - definitely they/them.
That is true! However I often find that when people even ASK about pronouns it is usually because they are quite open about that themselves and that makes me feel a lot safer around them already ; Just stating them without being asked also would make me a little scared
I often am too scared to introduce myself with my pronouns, but I try to do it if the people I'm talking to give off accepting (and/or queer) vibes-this can also make other people feel more comfortable to volunteer their pronouns.
I dont understand neopronouns. But I respect the people who use them and I’m happy that they give people comfort
Don't respect them
@@grumpiesttitan7930 nah ima respect neopronouns (not the offensive ones tho)
@@pepsiinhaler all are offensive
there needs to be more people with this mindset thank you :)
@@grumpiesttitan7930 nuh uh
I vastly prefer just to say "queer" instead of LGBTQ+. It encompasses everyone, and is one syllable instead of six.
LITERALLYYY i hate saying the acronym because a lot of the things i fall under aren't in it. it'd be much easier to just say queer
The problem is that some people don't want to tell their pronouns and then complain when others misgender them. And this applies to many things; many LGBTQIA+ people want others to "just google it and educate yourself" but the truth is, if you are not willing to explain, people won't spend their time learning about your identity because honestly they don't really care.
EDIT, to clarify: you don't HAVE to explain anything to anyone; just lower your expectations, because, as said, people don't care enough to educate themselves.
I would like to point out that constantly having to explain your identity can be exhausting. Sometimes it’s important to take a break from that because it can effect your health in many aspects.
Having to explain to people over and over what it means to be trans is annoying and exhausting, because often they want to argue my existence with me rather than learn.
@@apricotbuncakes I feel this. Or when I'm enthusiastic about telling them about it, they shut it down immediately.
some people won’t care either way
@@apricotbuncakes I completely agree that it gets exhausting. But when I don't want to explain, I also lower my expectations, because I know people won't immediately understand and accept my identity, or do research on their own. That's my point, you don't have to explain, but you also can't expect people to accept and understand everything if you don't, you will only frustrate yourself.
@@juliamarques4404 I have a rule for myself that I explain if I think they’ll get something out of it. If it’s a well meaning but confused or misinformed then I’m happy to, but if it’s just someone being hateful, I don’t owe them justification for my identity
NOBODY "does the voice" lol. I've met people who think that the "gay voice" is a choice, but it's not. I have that kinda voice and I've always HATED it. Like, I got bullied for it as school and would never speak for years because of it. But I didn't "change" at all when I came out, this is just how I've always sounded and unfortunately I could never hide it at all.
I'll get hated on for this, but I'm giving my opinion
I personally do find Neopronouns with kitten/kittenself or any other animal or objects weird. But It's not like I'll disrespect that person, no matter what for pronouns I'll always respect and never call people names or anything rude for it, I just find them a bit weird is all. As long as it's nothing disrespectful I don't mind, I just find them a little weird.
I find it to be problematic only when these people are saying “cat is my gender” or “deer is my gender”; I just think we should keep the otherkin and the trans community separate because they aren’t the same thing
I mean... At that point, for me at least, it would be about who is more uncomfortable. Because like... These people use different pronouns because other ones make them uncomfortable, right?
But when someone comes at me with pronouns such as those with animals or objects or whatever... Well I'm sorry, but using those would make ME very uncomfortable. So then it's just turning into a fight of "who is more uncomfortable?" or is that not the right way to think about it? Because I don't really disrespect people without any reason, but like... I would feel very weird and uncomfortable using those kinds of pronouns.
Maybe I'll change my mind, but this is currently my opinion
neopronouns are really interesting bc i also went through the "this is weird" -> "its not that deep nor as big of a deal as i thought" -> "wait these specific neopronouns kinda slap....."
i dont use them often bc theyre cat-themed but hearing myself referred to by them is... super nice
What are the neo pronouns you like?
Yoooo what are they? I recently found cryp/crypt/crypts/crypts/crypself and they're super comfy :D I'd love to see yours :))
@@alixgrimshaw2420 Cryptid yesss neo pronouns just keep getting better
@@nicothenecromancer im currently making a Google doc of all of my neos and xenos!! :D
@@alixgrimshaw2420 oh my gosh let me know when you're done that sounds amazing!
10:20
Hi, agender here. I experience no gender dysphoria or any sort of trans related issues. I have no future plans to medically transition. However, I use they/them pronouns and have changed my name (a multitude of times).
I can definitely say that being non binary is so much bigger than it is explained. The enby community is so huge and diverse. (A friend of mine is enby and uses their birth name and pronouns).
And yes, the non binary flag is super ugly (the polysexual flag is WAY uglier), but the agender flag is very aesthetically pleasing.
I don't think the polysexual flag is that bad, the polyamorous flag though-
Honestly even though I identify with the Non-Binary label due to convenience and nkt finding anything else that fits. I definitely love the idea of it being an umbrella term as well because there's no right or wrong way to be Non-Binary I mean it's so vastly different for different people. Plus the idea you have to have dysphoria to be trans is so outdated and no longer agreed upon by most of the community and scientists alike (for those transmed guys to shut up)
i actually love the colors of the non binary flag 👍
Hi, Cis 👋🏾 lol
So are u male or female.
everyone talks about glow-ups as a physical transformation, but can we please talk about how lovely philosophical glow-ups are? like, it takes guts for Noah to sit in front of a camera and say “yeah, when i did this video several years ago, i said some things that were naive and i don’t hold those same beliefs anymore.” like damn…we have to celebrate this, because not enough people in the world let their opinions evolve and even fewer have the guts to actually outright say it. 💜good on you, 2021 Noah. it’s been wonderful to see you grow into yourself more and more over the years.
Noah in 2017: “neo pronouns make a mockery of the trans community”
Noah in 2021: “I really don’t care, do what makes u comfortable”
Congrats btw on being signed and preforming, ur music is the shit
why should he say anything that would his audience make upset when he wants people to spend money on his stuff?
@@bsrfuchs55 uh
@@bsrfuchs55 he’s rly cool and he doesn’t hurt anyone on purpose-
Yeah, this is one of the places where I have seen growth in Noah and it makes me so happy to see. He has grown up so much and it's really cool to have been able to watch it unfold on RUclips.
I'm old enough to be his grandparent, and I'm trans. And it is so cool to see young afab trans people who grow up into such great adults.
@@pjaypender1009 Bro, this is a really cool thing to read, really
im SO glad you brought up the thing about disliking being asked for your pronouns--i completely understand why others do it, and why it's so important! however it can be really disheartening when someone doesn't bother asking their cisgender classmates or friends for their pronouns and only do so for the people that "seem trans"--as a trans guy who is honestly desperate for someone IRL to actually recognize me as masculine, i genuinely *want* people to assume my pronouns are he/him. i hate having to 'prompt' people to see me as what i am, i want it to come as naturally to them as if they were assuming the pronouns of a cis man if that makes sense
I completely understand that. I'm currently questioning whether I'm non binary or not but have identified as a woman for all of my 27 years and appear "obviously" as a cis female and I recently went to an lgbt+ group and we all asked everyone their pronouns and it was such a nice change from the norm
i think like all the xe/xyr fee/fim neos are cool, but when it gets to a point where their just like words, for exaple "moon" or "star" i think that should just go to a gategory of like nicknames youd like ppl to use.
I agree with this!
Except they’re not nicknames, so you’re proposal doesn’t make sense
@@bubbleswashere. i mean theyre used instead of a person's name (as one would use pronouns) execpt "star" and "moon" are nouns, not pronouns, so they'd technically be nicknames, bc u use them in the place youd use the persons name
@@inkmuste No, they’re in place of “regular” pronouns. For instance, “Sammy wants popsicles because he is hot” would be “Sammy wants popsicles because star is hot” with use of star pronouns
@@inkmuste the difference is you’d still use their name, with nicknames you’d use it instead of the name almost entirely
everyone has their own look on gender and their own gender. There is not an amount of genders, there are just people that dont look at themselves the same way others look at themselves.
So how about we stop the essentialist gender bullshit altogether?
Unpopular opinion I’ve heard:
“People need to stop making gay their whole personality”
….but I’m out of the closet here I don’t want to act like I’m not-
Like I’m sorry 💅🏻
True!
I’ve had straight friends (and family) talk more about queer people than me, and I am queer people
cishet people have been making their sexuality their whole personality for centuries of western culture (mother/father) so now it's normalized as (gendered) personality traits rather than externally reproduced social positions
@Ivy thank you
For me coming out didn't really make a difference in my behavior. Idk why. It just didn't change anything at all.
I laughed way too much about the whole cold knees analogy.
i think asking a trans or gnc person for their pronouns is really good, actually..? you said it yourself that even if a person looks stereotypically masculine or feminine they could still have different pronouns. i am a binary trans man too and i understand wanting people to just assume, but it's really better for a lot of people if we normalize asking people's pronouns
I agree with you honestly. Even better, it should be common practice to introduce yourself to people with your name and pronouns like we tend to in queer spaces. Then trans people can participate or not participate without feeling singled out.
I think it can be better for people (especially cis people) to state their own pronouns when introducing themselves (instead of asking for others'). That then establishes that people can/should include their pronouns in their introduction, which makes it easier for people who will probably get misgendered if they don't introduce their pronouns to do so without singling themselves out.
as a cis person, I would introduce myself with pronouns but there are still people out here who would take offence. I don't care about them not liking me, but I may actually be hurt or screamed at just for saying that to a stranger, and so that's why I don't often do it... all it takes is one transphobe.
When people ask me for my pronouns it makes me feel like I’m not passing. So that’s why I don’t like being asked for my pronouns. Also, you have to remember that the majority of society is cis, and asking some one with a super masculine or feminine appearance seems kind of pointless. If I meet someone who is androgynous or if I think they might be trans I’ll ask, but that again goes back to my original statement where I hate being asked because I worry people can tell I was born different than how I’m trying to appear.
Yeah
As a person who uses he/they/it but presents semi-fem/androgynous, I want people to ask me my pronouns rather that misgendering me-
corry explained the whole "100 genders" thing using the metaphor of colors in his channel and you know what everyone should go watch that especially because he's literally noah's boyfriend lol
I normally advise cis people to introduce themselves with their pronouns (like "hi, I'm Elliot, I use he/him pronouns") rather than asking what people's pronouns are so they're opening the door for people to introduce their pronouns without putting them on the spot or singling them out
You *still* put people on the spot when they also have to introduce themselves with pronouns. That's literally forcing someone to misgender themselves or come out dude
@@puta8002 I mean the idea is that if people are comfortable introducing themselves with their pronouns they do so, which means that if other people want to do the same they don’t have to be the only one doing it. If someone just responds with “ok, I’m ___” then you just move on, nbd. Trust me there has been no shortage of people who don’t say their pronouns even if you do. But it opens the gate for people to share theirs if they want to :)
@@elliotjames3895 hope so but people kind of pick up if only one person doesn't introduce themselves the way others do. Like that doesn't go unnoticed and that's how i got outed at work
@@puta8002 it really sucks that you had to go through that and I’m sorry. I just think it’s the most neutral way, as a trans person who has dealt with the uncomfortable “out myself or be misgendered” when asked about my pronouns before. Obviously there is no perfect method, but that is what has worked best for me
@@elliotjames3895 best is to just refer to everyone as "fucker" 💀 that's the only pronoun we'll ever need
Neopronouns are really just other pronouns other than the ones we are taught in school (in theory...Some people still think they don't have pronouns)
i personally hate when people ask my pronouns just because it’s makes me uncomfortable and i don’t why but even when people ask them and i tell them they still don’t use the the right one
You've definitely grown as a person and it shows, it's really great ❤️❤️
With the over a 100 sexualities and genders thing: I kinda think that each person has their own unique gender and sexuality, it’s so different for every person. There are obviously umbrella terms. I can guarantee I don’t have the exact same gender as another non binary person. So I guess there like 7 billion genders and sexualities. I’m sure that my opinion doesn’t make sense to everyone but as a biologist I’ve seen so much diversity in expression I truly believe it.
My overall take is that we should try to stick to at least some umbrella terms, otherwise the category of gender and any subcategories of sexuality will devolve into meaninglessness. I think the argument should either be in favor of abolishing gender(which is something I'm not entirely on board with yet), or maintaining a gender spectrum with M/F and then NB and removing the stigma and stereotypes associated with them(which is something I lean towards agreeing with more). Maybe abolishing gender is the logical step forward after removing stigma and stereotypes, but gender itself still has utility for like 95% of the human population, so I'm not entirely sure.
I fuckin H A T E the word Valid. Like I tell you about myself and the only thing you can think to say is "Oh my god, that is so acceptable! That is definitely an option! You can do that, hooray!"
Like jesus christ
hype me up a LITTLE here
To this day I'm still thinking about my first and only encounter with a non-binary person. It was an oriantation phase for university and we were meeting up at night to drink. I was already pretty busted but I was in control of the drinking game we played so naturally I asked everyone for their names. They joined a bit later and they looked very androgynous and so was their name so I asked them for their pronouns. They smiled and told me it was they/them pronouns in English (this took place in Germany and sadly we don't really have an equivalent for they/them). So we wen ton playing and everything was great.
Afterwards I was concerned if it maybe was a bit rude to ask because they were the only person I asked for their pronouns so I made them stand out in a way that might have not been pleasant, but during the situation I had nothing but the best intentions, I swear.
It sounds like in this specific situation the person was happy you asked! Another commenter suggested offering your pronouns when you introduce yourself first, and then if the other person wants to share theirs, they will feel more comfortable doing so and not so singled out.
I’m so happy to hear one of my favorite RUclipsrs defend neopronouns because someone who I thought was my friend made fun of mine, calling them “stupid” and “not a real thing”.
I was afraid of him saying he doesn't like neopronouns lol
@@tiredghost_irl lol same😂
Good friend!
your "friend" is obviously uneducated on it lol
what are your neo pronouns if you still use them?? Mines He/Xe/Clown/It!
Luckily, my friends respect any individual person’s gender because although they made fun of neos once they were talking about Meowbahh, a lot of people when trying to insult other people talk about things negatively when usually they’d see it neutrally or positively.
5:36 As someone part of the “A” (Agender & AroAce-spec), I honestly do the same thing and don’t get upset when others shorten it. I have memory issues and I always try to be clear when speaking so I need to think before speaking so I’ll just say “LGBT+” or “LGBTQ+” when addressing something because my brain either shutdown or I don’t want the other person checking out of the conversation before I get my point across. I think either way to say it is fine because that’s what the plus sign is for
I as an ace really like to see the whole thing used as ace / aro people have a visibility problem in general in my opinion. I had to get over 30 to even realize ace exists and I am not just a weirdo. So I always use the full acronym because it may open an opportunity to explain what the meaning of A is. :)
another thing to add about neopronouns! they are mainly used by ppl on the autism spectrum or by other neurodivergent people. this is just because their understanding of pronouns and gender identity is much different than a neurotypical’s, so it’s super important for the people who do use them!
yes!
I respect other peoples pronouns but I don’t get why they are so important. What word/words other people use to refer to me doesn’t define who I am.
@zyumi del rey .。*♡ It seems like many people think that since they care so much about their pronouns. I’m just trying to understand.
@zyumi del rey .。*♡ Thank you for putting up with me. Yes I will in fact do more research. I want to be able to fully understand it.
Wouldnt giving infinite possibilities to choose create even greater confusion tho?
as a NB - i think the big issue with neopronouns is that pronouns don't exist to be unique to an individual, they exist to serve a function as a tool for language which can be used generally for EVERYONE *WITHOUT* knowing/needing to reference their specific name/title (hence why "they" exists")
their whole purpose for existing is for general convenience rather than as a nickname, so idk why we don't just use nicknames instead of confusing the normies & ourselves by creating an entirely new language pattern
Giggle…just noticed the exclamation mark on Noah’s middle finger…I thought, “Cute.” And then I realized that everyone getting that middle finger, gets an extra lil bit of “f*ck off.” And then I thought…”I want it.”
Thank you so much for you video! I have been struggling with what to think of them so watching this helps me choose what to think of them.
I missed you so much!!
Hope you're not too stressed to make a video next week, because I need you in my life😭
I loved the long sock analogy! It makes a lot of sense to me! If I know I may get slurred at made fun of etc… IM NOT GOING TO PUT MYSELF INTO THAT SITUATION
On the "LGBT" vs "LGBTQIA+" thing. I just use the more niche abbreviation "GSRM" (Gender, Sexual, and Romantic Minorities.) Inclusive, short, and harder to make queerphobic slogans out of. Sometimes it needs a lil' explanation though.
The only issue with GSRM is it excludes identities such as aromantic people or just anyone who only feels platonic attraction
@@ChaosqueenMaddy Aspec are sexual and romantic minorities.... Why wouldn't they be included?
People are always going to be excluded from generalities for simplicity sake, it's kinda just how it works unfortunately.
@@ChaosqueenMaddy it really doesn't. As an ace-spec person myself, I find that GSRM is way more inclusive and makes me feel better, because there aren't bigots who can argue that the letter that represents my group means something else entirely (I am so tired of the 'A' is for ally bs and GSRM makes it so I don't have to think about the idiots oof the world as much).
@@nattiberrington Yeah, thats fair
As a neopronoun user (and also identify with a xenogender) i t is a point of comfort in my gender, I think that my news make me more comfy, there is literally nothing harming in them (unless it is genuinely problematic) so yeah, nic
“Not all gay people have mental illnesses or adhd” true because I’m gay and I have no mental illness or adhd ✨
Rare breed
@@runt7930 I-
0.001% chance
@@horseoperamarker 💀
Same
you've grown so much, man. not to get sappy but i've watched you since the beginning of my own medical transition (so about 5 years now) and to see how open about things you've previously had a different opinion on has been great to see ngl
I just love Noah's analogies more than anything XD
The people with cold knees, and the parents who force their kids to wear hats etc.
My bestfriend is a cishet man, but he talks and acts femininely or as a gay man stereotype. The amount of times he’s been asked if he’s gay is amusing. He has to say “No, but I do support.”
algorithm boost comment hello :) while i’m commenting i just wanna say that i really appreciate you for being able to openly say that your opinions have changed, it’s a breath of fresh air from people who try to defend their old thoughts because they feel attacked (especially online)
Glad you’re back friend!! Best of luck with all the good things you’ve got going on!!
Noah: I've been doing important things
Also Noah: I've not been looking after myself
On the pronouns bit of the video, if I don't know someone's pronouns then I use they/them on everyone unless I know there pronouns. I'm just scared about upsetting someone lol
I do that too
Man the flag comment was👌🏻.
As an artist, the NB and intersex flags burn my eyes (probably bcz that low brightness purple shade doesn't often look good with that saturated af yellow) and the pan kinda annoys me for the same reason (what's with LGBTQ+ flags and max saturation lol?). Aside from those, the rest are pretty aesthetically pleasing.
“If you live near any of these dates” dang, I live in July, I’m nowhere near January
Usually when introducing with everyone I personally ask people for their pronouns but this might just be me because I am a more fem presenting non-binary person who gets misgendered all the time so I see it as respectful.
Hey Noah! Great video and I just wanted to add as a nonbinary trans person that I PERSONALLY don’t like being asked my pronouns either because of similar reasons to you. I often feel like I’m being singled out. I am someone who person who gets questioning looks from people cause of how I look/i am seen as someone with an ambiguous gender. So when I am in pronoun circles with mostly cis folks it feels like I again singled out. It also ties to personal experiences with being treated like a ‘prize’ by ‘well meaning’ cis folks to show off how progressive they are, which I won’t go into but I think it’s impacted my willingness to just freely trust people even in a safe setting.
I understand that people may say ‘then what do you want? How am I supposed to know?’. I kind of feel like if I want you to know/trust you I will tell you. Also if you didn’t know there’s probably a reason.
Overall though, I am glad people are trying to be more inclusive. But I think there’s always going to more to discuss because of how vast the trans experience is.
I understand how you feel it makes me feel like I’m instantly being clocked
Personally feel the opposite. It makes me feel good that they took the time to ask, and it tells me that my sex isn’t obvious, which is nice.
If they need to refer to me and it’s a situation where I’m not in danger bc of being trans, then I’d much prefer to be asked then have someone assume and me feel dysphoric and have to correct them
Is it best to try to avoid pronouns and only use names if unsure? Or just use they/them? I want to make sure I'm not hurting anyone.
I'm a trans guy too and used to have some similar thoughts that you used to have too. Then I grew out of it, educated myself more and learned to love and accept myself and other identities too. Really happy to see the same personal growth happen to other people :D Love your vids!!
My mom is incredibly transphobic and she’s been super forceful abt insisting it’s just confusion/a phase and she’s been forcing religion harder on me the more obvious I’ve made it that I’m a guy x_x
She doesn’t even know what nonbinary is she just thinks not being cis is ridiculous and a rejection of god
"I don't really think any two people will have the exact same level of attraction to the exact same type of people an whether you want to label that as a sexuality or not I guess that's up to you"
Putting my thoughts into words.
I got my first binder today and I just.. came here! I love it ahhhhhh!
awesome! hope it makes you happy!
i love you so much your voice just calms me down. this kid is constantly calling me my dead name and you’re just helping my anxiety with your energy 💕
No worries about not posting, your mental health is more important than posting all the time. I'm glad you're doing better and not as stressed now. Have a nice day!
With the whole shortening the LGBTQIA+ thing, I feel like I've seen people doing this more and more, but in very specific ways. They will write LGBTQA, or LGBTIA, etc, and it could just be a typo, but it just seems deliberate to me (especially when I've seen the same "misspelling" multiple times, and excluding the +). I understand saying "LGBT community" out loud for brevity, but I don't really get excluding specific letters, or the + especially, when writing it down.
What a great video! Sure hope this comment doesn’t doesn’t help the algorithm, or anything. It sure would be a shame if tons of people saw this video and Noah got paid more ad revenue and got more support… wouldn’t want that to happen, or something… 👀👀👀
I just noticed that when you talk, you always convey so much emotion. Lots of physical movement, changing expressions constantly, and your voice is very lively.
Fun fact, I did some research & alot of neopronouns have been around for decades.
as a non-binary person, yes, the flag looks trash but it means things and it's our trash and i love it
I love the colours of the flag: purple is my favourite colour. I like the agender flag but I rather the non binary flag (I’m agender/non binary).
yessss i love the "its our trash" part of this like yes!! it isnt the cutest flag AT ALL!! and yes!! i have a pillow with that flag anyway!!
The only part I don't like about the Non-Binary flag is the yellow. I don't really like the colour yellow. That's it.
Glad the bi flag actually has my fav colors. Makes me appreciate being bi just a teeny tiny bit more.
i'm nonbinary and i can't relate i really do not like the colors which is why i don't use nonbinary themed accessories in any of my picrews 💀
I personally am not a fan of neopronouns because I have had a lot of bad experiences with them, I have been yelled at and called transphobic because I refused to refer to someone as daddy, they where 19-20 I’m 15 I didn’t feel comfortable calling an adult daddy I’m not comfortable with calling anyone daddy! I’ve also had people attack me because I referred to someone as they instead of slug because it makes no grammatical sense and my ocd is already bad enough, I struggle a lot with grammar as it is due to problems with my eyes (I’m being tested for dyslexia or a sensory disorder) neopronouns just really mess with my head, grammar is important for me just as having the volume divisible by five is important for me I can’t write a sentence replacing a pronouns with a noun. I will just call them by there name or they them or I just won’t refer to them at all
Please tell a trusted adult in your life about the situation with the person trying to get you to call them daddy, I'm worried this person was being predatory towards you, I'm actually really concerned.
@@Ruby-xk8kn I have, they where online and I’m pretty sure they got banned recently
@@Catinthecosmos155 I am very glad you did, stay safe
I think anyone can use any pronouns they want (unless they contain slurs or something like that) I just dont really like nounself pronouns since they are pretty hard to use and can get confusing (like kitten/kittenself) since it kind of just sounds like they use another name since every pronoun in that set is basically the same. Not saying they can’t use pronouns like that, cause they obviously can and I wouldn’t judge someone for using pronouns that make them feel comfortable, I just find it difficult to use them.
I personally like when people ask my pronouns because I generally look more feminine and people immediately assume that I’m a girl, when really I’m genderfluid and mostly prefer they/he
You mean you're cis
Me too!
Merry Christmas to whoever is reading this 💕
Where are my long sock people
im so happy to see your opinions on truscum and neopronouns have changed! i used to watch you back in the day when you agreed with them but i had to stop bc of it. so happy i can come back to you now
I have a feeling the cold socks analogy was from personal experience-
Man, how did you get to be so open and wise at such a young age? very cool
Thanks for bringing up the sassy gay personality thing, i recently dropped a friend because i noticed they would just drag me down, heckle me and bully me and only me in a room of friends, and anytime id mention it bothered me, i was told to get with the "gay lingo". It was a constant of dirty disgusted looks, shaming remarks then met with "lighten up." and since, I've sadly found myself distancing from having gay friends and lgbt support just because i see that trait come up too often. I'm a gay dude myself but i seriously dont understand why the nastiness is deemed necessary??
In reference to guy + girl queer couples, I’ve started to use the term “straight passing.” Kinda like “cis passing” but for sexuality.
My partner and I are in a straight passing relationship, and we started dating just after I came out to myself + a few close friends. I think that’s a big reason why I didn’t openly come out until about a year later.
if "straight passing" works for you then that's cool but a lot of people can be offended by that because they're not straight and especially bi people can face a lot of biphobia (cheating stereotypes) so some people who may appear to be in a straight relationship but one (or both) are not straight then they prefer to use "queer relationship"; tbh, if anyone told me I'm "straight passing" by dating a guy then I'd be so fucking offended b/c I'm not straight so if I had a relationship with a man or a woman then I'd use "queer" to describe it b/c I'm not straight and I'm not a lesbian.
@@novatalking I think the whole point of referring to a relationship as "straight-passing" is that it ISN'T a straight relationship, but it can be perceived as one by an outside observer. This can be an important term when discussing issues that do depend on this outside perception. While this doesn't negate issues that queer people face regardless of how their relationship is perceived, it is undeniable that there are certain obstacles a visibly queer relationship can face which a straight-passing one wouldn't.
Sorry but are you fucking stupid? A guy and a girl in a relationship is always straight.
@@novatalking But if you are a girl and date a guy you're in a straight relationship though
@@nealbrook4226 it is a straight relationship
I think it's silly that people are like "neopronouns are invalid. how do people identify with those words?" Like.... How does anyone identify with any words? They're all just words, you identify with your name and the word he and I identify with my name and my pronouns, it's the same thing
I want to normalize introducing yourself with pronouns, putting pronouns in your bio, etc., even if you're cisgender. It's also the most respectful way to ask someone's gender if you aren't sure, like if they look very androgynous.
Hell nah I aint gonna have someone walk up to me clear as day that I’m a male and ask my pronouns.