I may be one of the few people who DON'T want this huge palette!😃 But I do love and use only ceramic/porcelain ones. I've cobbled together a sort of "system" which I have been revising the last few weeks! Last year when I started out, I bought several small ones (similar to Meeden's 7" x 4" 14 well one) and filled one with blues, one with greens, etc...and I made a swatch card for each palette. As I have come to find out, the wells are just too small - and my paint collection has grown! So I am ditching them (well, selling them on ebay!). I have done some lessons and tutorials using small dipping bowls and I've liked that better - I have a couple sizes of ceramic trays to use for mixing and watering down colors. None are actually artist's palettes - they're "kitchen" items on Amazon! I had smaller desser/appetizer ones - I just scored a sale several days ago and got 2 12" x 10" ones. I DID love watching you set up YOUR palette, though, Liz! And I LOVE that you have a lot of paint colors! I know some artists only use a few colors and mix everything they need...but there are so many luscious colors out there that are fun to use! And THANK YOU for the GREAT tip on how to squeeze out the paint - I will definitely start doing it that way. I ALWAYS squeeze too much out and even if I want to save some colors for later, this is going to be VERY helpful - better to add fresh paint! I'm still going to make up swatch sheets by color category and I'll be able to find the paint tubes easily as I now have them stored in lipstick holders by color category. Such a cool idea I saw on RUclips - 15 ml tubes fit just right in the ones I got! I'm going to add pigment info this time as I love exploring that after watching your video on it and accessing Oto Kano's Watercolor Encyclopedia. Oh my goodness - I have written you a novella, but you talk to us like we're right there and I just talked back to you! If you're still reading at this point🥰 - thanks again, Liz!
I love that you are experimenting and finding your own preferences. I only use 6 or so colours in any one painting, but that doesn’t mean I only have six colours in my paint box. All those colours are like irresistible jewels 💎 Keep playing and learning and do your own thing 😊
The primaries in my opinion are the slightly larger wells that have this triangular ending pointing inwards. The dashes you Liz pointed out at 8:53 imo are for the "secondary" and then there are the smaller point-like features and those must be the tertiary. But anyway, what a gorgeous palette. I paint in the living room to be with my husband while I do so, so I'll never have a palette like that but I can live vicariously through you 🤭😁
NOW WITH LID! After lots of folk said this has a lid I contacted Meeden. This is what they said: Regarding the suggestions for the ceramic palette lid, we have received similar feedback from our customers before, and our product team has already addressed the cover issue at the end of June. The new batch of large ceramic palettes that replenished in the overseas warehouses will include the lids, but the price will be slightly higher than before. The product sample we sent to you was in May, and those batches of large ceramic palettes did not include the lids yet. I am sorry about that. Our products are constantly being updated and improved to meet the needs of all customers to the greatest extent possible. Great to know they listen to feedback!
I totally agree with you on Aussie Red Gold and Quin Gold. I put them next to each other and I’m so sorry I did. I can, of course, remove one ; but, my pretty color guide has now been laminated! Oh dear, what a dilemma!
Liz, I have this palette and contacted Meeden about buying a lid for it. The newer ones come with a cover. They are sending me one free. All I had to do was show proof of purchase. They said they stand behind their products and were glad to send it to people who bought the early ones that came without a cover. Happy New Year.
Oh yes, I have been eyeing this palette ever since I saw your review about the Meeden Beginners Watercolor set a while back. It is definitely on my Christmas list but I have got to get a bigger space for my studio set up. Thanks for sharing this wonderful review & I can’t wait to see how yours is finally done. It would be a long time for me to decide & narrow down to 33 colors so I understand completely your dilemma with the setting up. Enjoy the process and have a fun time! Thanks again for sharing this with us!
Once I am set up in a studio (5 years to retirement!,) I may look into this, because by then I will have a better understanding of my favorite colors and I will be painting bigger!! Thank you for sharing
Looks phenomenal! I noticed your hands as you described this palette. My middle and fourth fingers on both hands bend in the same directions as yours! I've never seen that on anyone else before. Hmmmm.
Hi Liz bought this humongous beauty many months ago without a lid but will do as you have done.l have been dying to use it but all of my painting gear & 100 boxes of china etc have been stored in rooms & moved about as our home has been underpinned & renovated then painted & new carpets throughout.Huge job,hopefully the kitchen will be done soon.It’s been a long process but looking lovely again.Fingers crossed 🤞next week l can put my painting room back together & paint to my hearts content.🙏New sub from 🐨🦘Best wishes.♥️
Looks perfect for someone with a Quiller brain who wants a palette with three perfect primaries, three perfect secondaries, six perfect tertiaries and twelve of whatever comes next. They’d be able to look at the palette and (as you say) immediately spot the complementaries but also the triadic colour schemes he likes with three colours forming an equilateral triangle and split complementary schemes with three colours forming an isosceles triangle with one short side and two long. I'll be sticking with my Mijello 18-well palette though. I use mainly primaries plus earths and viridian, no oranges or purples. With a palette like that, I'm more interested in getting the colours in the right hot/cold order than in pinning them down to particular spots on the clock face opposite their complements. Does that make sense? With the Meeden palette there would be some places on the circle that I'd want to be empty and some places where I'd be wanting to cram four colours into two or three wells. I'm not sure I could bring myself to put a colour on a Meeden palette 30 degrees away from its correct position. I started this off thinking Stephen Quiller was a bit inflexible and OCD about his colour choices but am now thinking that I'm just as bad but with palettes.
I have had this palette for a while, and it's beautiful. I haven't been able to make myself commit to colors that I squeeze out into it, so I've only really used it for mixing space. You're making me want to commit, though....
I bit the dust and purchased the Quiller two years ago because it has a heavy duty plastic top that fits loose to let the colors dry when not in use. I LOVE it! My goal is to use this palette to force myself to learn to mix the colors I want. I love experimenting with color theory and find great satisfaction in mixing my own colors on this large mixing area. Like you, I have a box full of tube paints and find it time consuming to always be looking for the right color to put out just for one painting. Big wells are perfect for dipping large brushes. I took a long time to fill the wells with the colors I wanted. I decided on only transparent and semi-transparent colors. No cads. The most opaque color on my palette is cerulean blue. I took clues from a Stephen Quiller 's book, Painter's Guide to Color, and set mine up so I could use the paints opposite on the color wheel to create very quick beautiful grays for shadows. I placed natural colors in the corners. The book also includes a large copy of Quiller's new color wheel, which I illuminated and put on the top of my palette. I used the big arrows for primary, skinny long arrows for secondary and small arrows for tertiary colors. In between I stayed with the color wheel but included colors I love. So far so good. I have only changed out one color and moved one color over one place when I replaced the color I didn't want. Have fun with your new palette.
The first thing I thought was "love it but couldn't cope with six months of colour choosing procrastination" but you're right, it would be great fun to set up. I love your tip of putting a good sized blob of paint plus a thinner layer to make colour identification easier, especially for us noobs. I'm off to the Meeden website now, "just to take a look"... 😜
Hello. I’ve coveted this palette for a long time, via Mr. Quiller. Seeing what I hope is an endorsed product for much less has made me put it in my cart. I’m holding off for now. Thanks for the discount code! It may help me make my decision. 🌺
This has been in then out of my basket so many times! I really don't have enough space for it though and that makes my avaricious little soul so sad... I do have the large rectangular one with wells on 3 sides and its great. Love meeden palettes. I could never understand why people would buy the overpriced one. Think how much paint you could buy for the same cost!
@@LizChadertonArt haha, enabler, temptress! My bank manager warned me about your sort.....🤣🤣🤣 I'm on a strict ban until I use up at least some of the supplies I already have. The review made it very difficult to resist though.
Hullo Liz and I got this palette just 2 months ago! I also got 2 of the 12 well palettes with the lid on one came broke and they replaced it no problems! I am not sure how it got broke but they were very nice about it and Wala! A New one was sent right away! I used the box it came in as a lid it fit just fine after I cut it down to size! (Looks like you did the same!) I used felt fabric and just glued it to the bottom and it slides quite easily. I also would not spend the price they want for the Quiller palette! I disagree about the nobs, opposite the nobs are larger pans and your primaries would go into them as you would use them the most right? SO I put the most paint in the "primary wells" I also put a line of paint at the base or bottom of the other wells and bring a tint towards the center to see the color of the paints. I have moved colors by scraping the dry color out of the well, "glue" it into a different well with new paint from the tube! Because like you I changed my mind! (I moved one of my convenience greens!) Wonderful video I wonder how your setting up the 12 well palette? I got one for the Discovering opaque colors palette from DaVinci! I had all of the colors except for Denise's Gray and Stormy Blue and I ordered tubes right away as I am a fan of Denise's!
p.s. Hobbycraft have 3 for 2 on art supplies at the minute, including the Winsor & Newton Professional range (plus Cotman etc.), a lot of the W&N, Daler Rowney inks, etc. Worth a visit if you're nearby. I may have been "persuaded" into buying tubes of alazarin crimson, french ultramarine in order to get another tube of green gold (because I love it and it was "free", right?!)
Looked this up on the Meeden site and it comes with a plastic lid and says the bottom is smooth so it won’t scratch. I’m in the US so maybe the US version of their website/product list is different? $49.95 as you said but with a large plastic lid.
Mine didn’t! which country are you in? Maybe it’s a new design? Someone in the USA said they had a cover….. It was easy to improvise, so I am not feeling hard done by….
@@LizChadertonArt I am in the USA, don't know if its new, but the price is the same. Maybe drop them an email & let them know yours didn't come with a cover. Love you, your art & your videos, sending hugs 🤗
I've had this in my Amazon basket for a while ) can't see it on the Meeden GB website) but I haven't committed as it doesn't have a lid. I didn't think to make one out of the box, so thanks for that tip!
I may be one of the few people who DON'T want this huge palette!😃 But I do love and use only ceramic/porcelain ones. I've cobbled together a sort of "system" which I have been revising the last few weeks! Last year when I started out, I bought several small ones (similar to Meeden's 7" x 4" 14 well one) and filled one with blues, one with greens, etc...and I made a swatch card for each palette. As I have come to find out, the wells are just too small - and my paint collection has grown! So I am ditching them (well, selling them on ebay!). I have done some lessons and tutorials using small dipping bowls and I've liked that better - I have a couple sizes of ceramic trays to use for mixing and watering down colors. None are actually artist's palettes - they're "kitchen" items on Amazon! I had smaller desser/appetizer ones - I just scored a sale several days ago and got 2 12" x 10" ones.
I DID love watching you set up YOUR palette, though, Liz! And I LOVE that you have a lot of paint colors! I know some artists only use a few colors and mix everything they need...but there are so many luscious colors out there that are fun to use! And THANK YOU for the GREAT tip on how to squeeze out the paint - I will definitely start doing it that way. I ALWAYS squeeze too much out and even if I want to save some colors for later, this is going to be VERY helpful - better to add fresh paint!
I'm still going to make up swatch sheets by color category and I'll be able to find the paint tubes easily as I now have them stored in lipstick holders by color category. Such a cool idea I saw on RUclips - 15 ml tubes fit just right in the ones I got! I'm going to add pigment info this time as I love exploring that after watching your video on it and accessing Oto Kano's Watercolor Encyclopedia.
Oh my goodness - I have written you a novella, but you talk to us like we're right there and I just talked back to you! If you're still reading at this point🥰 - thanks again, Liz!
I love that you are experimenting and finding your own preferences. I only use 6 or so colours in any one painting, but that doesn’t mean I only have six colours in my paint box. All those colours are like irresistible jewels 💎 Keep playing and learning and do your own thing 😊
🥰@@LizChadertonArt
I bought this on UK Amazon for £29 on special offer & i love it. I've put mine on a large lazy Susan also I've used the centre to add more pans...❤
Great tip! And that’s a fab price…well done for spotting
The lazy susan is a great idea! As I get older, anything that makes life easier on me is a win! Thank you for sharing!
The primaries in my opinion are the slightly larger wells that have this triangular ending pointing inwards. The dashes you Liz pointed out at 8:53 imo are for the "secondary" and then there are the smaller point-like features and those must be the tertiary. But anyway, what a gorgeous palette. I paint in the living room to be with my husband while I do so, so I'll never have a palette like that but I can live vicariously through you 🤭😁
You may be right…. , either way it’s a gorgeous palette. They do far smaller ones too (just trying to tempt you 😆)
I appreciated seeing your process for deciding which paints you’ll put in it.
I’m glad that was useful
NOW WITH LID! After lots of folk said this has a lid I contacted Meeden. This is what they said:
Regarding the suggestions for the ceramic palette lid, we have received similar feedback from our customers before, and our product team has already addressed the cover issue at the end of June. The new batch of large ceramic palettes that replenished in the overseas warehouses will include the lids, but the price will be slightly higher than before.
The product sample we sent to you was in May, and those batches of large ceramic palettes did not include the lids yet. I am sorry about that. Our products are constantly being updated and improved to meet the needs of all customers to the greatest extent possible.
Great to know they listen to feedback!
Thats great!
I don’t have any influence! Have you contacted them direct? Making your own is very easy and more individual… @@pallavibhatt489
I just ordered the palette today. Hopefully with a lid included. The description didn't mention anything about a lid. (Amazon Netherlands)
It is still lovely without the lid and it’s easy to make one!@@giespel68
I totally agree with you on Aussie Red Gold and Quin Gold. I put them next to each other and I’m so sorry I did. I can, of course, remove one ; but, my pretty color guide has now been laminated! Oh dear, what a dilemma!
aaaargh!
I have it! I couldn't resist! A palette I can really build a color wash in! I started buying Meeden in about 2019 and I really like the brand overall.
I really like what I have so far too…I would like one of everything though 😊
Liz, I have this palette and contacted Meeden about buying a lid for it. The newer ones come with a cover. They are sending me one free. All I had to do was show proof of purchase. They said they stand behind their products and were glad to send it to people who bought the early ones that came without a cover. Happy New Year.
That is brilliant. it’s so nice to hear of customer service when it goes right! tbh I’m happy with my homemade effort. It works 😊
Oh yes, I have been eyeing this palette ever since I saw your review about the Meeden Beginners Watercolor set a while back. It is definitely on my Christmas list but I have got to get a bigger space for my studio set up. Thanks for sharing this wonderful review & I can’t wait to see how yours is finally done. It would be a long time for me to decide & narrow down to 33 colors so I understand completely your dilemma with the setting up. Enjoy the process and have a fun time! Thanks again for sharing this with us!
My pleasure. it is gorgeous.
Such a beautiful palette! Thanks for your video.
It really is!
Thank you for your kind reviews😍😍Hope you will enjoy MEEDEN products
I love your ceramic palette range. I hope that came across loud and clear in the film!
Once I am set up in a studio (5 years to retirement!,) I may look into this, because by then I will have a better understanding of my favorite colors and I will be painting bigger!!
Thank you for sharing
Roll on retirement!
I bought this huge palette a few months ago - it’s on my list for 2024 to fill it with some beautiful paints but was unsure where or how to start! 💜🙏
it can be pretty daunting, but it is too gorgeous not to use
Looks phenomenal! I noticed your hands as you described this palette. My middle and fourth fingers on both hands bend in the same directions as yours! I've never seen that on anyone else before. Hmmmm.
Does your thumb bend back from the middle joint too? We are either mutants or advanced humans. not sure which
I received the Meeden pallet for Christmas in the US. It came with a plastic cover.
yes, they have changed it after customer feedback, which is good to see
Didn’t realize this was so large and heavy! Will probably try a smaller one! Thanks for the review!
Yup! You wouldn’t take it urban sketching for sure…..
It now comes with a lid❤🎉
Hurrah! It’s nice when companies listen to customers
Hi Liz bought this humongous beauty many months ago without a lid but will do as you have done.l have been dying to use it but all of my painting gear & 100 boxes of china etc have been stored in rooms & moved about as our home has been underpinned & renovated then painted & new carpets throughout.Huge job,hopefully the kitchen will be done soon.It’s been a long process but looking lovely again.Fingers crossed 🤞next week l can put my painting room back together & paint to my hearts content.🙏New sub from 🐨🦘Best wishes.♥️
wow, sounds like it’s been a nightmare. How wonderful that the end is in sight!
Looks perfect for someone with a Quiller brain who wants a palette with three perfect primaries, three perfect secondaries, six perfect tertiaries and twelve of whatever comes next. They’d be able to look at the palette and (as you say) immediately spot the complementaries but also the triadic colour schemes he likes with three colours forming an equilateral triangle and split complementary schemes with three colours forming an isosceles triangle with one short side and two long.
I'll be sticking with my Mijello 18-well palette though. I use mainly primaries plus earths and viridian, no oranges or purples. With a palette like that, I'm more interested in getting the colours in the right hot/cold order than in pinning them down to particular spots on the clock face opposite their complements. Does that make sense? With the Meeden palette there would be some places on the circle that I'd want to be empty and some places where I'd be wanting to cram four colours into two or three wells. I'm not sure I could bring myself to put a colour on a Meeden palette 30 degrees away from its correct position.
I started this off thinking Stephen Quiller was a bit inflexible and OCD about his colour choices but am now thinking that I'm just as bad but with palettes.
I don’t know about the Quiller set up. will have to research…. I guess you are proving my point about there being no such 5hing as a perfect palette 😂
I have had this palette for a while, and it's beautiful. I haven't been able to make myself commit to colors that I squeeze out into it, so I've only really used it for mixing space. You're making me want to commit, though....
You can do it. But it’s hard!!
I bit the dust and purchased the Quiller two years ago because it has a heavy duty plastic top that fits loose to let the colors dry when not in use. I LOVE it! My goal is to use this palette to force myself to learn to mix the colors I want. I love experimenting with color theory and find great satisfaction in mixing my own colors on this large mixing area. Like you, I have a box full of tube paints and find it time consuming to always be looking for the right color to put out just for one painting. Big wells are perfect for dipping large brushes. I took a long time to fill the wells with the colors I wanted. I decided on only transparent and semi-transparent colors. No cads. The most opaque color on my palette is cerulean blue. I took clues from a Stephen Quiller 's book, Painter's Guide to Color, and set mine up so I could use the paints opposite on the color wheel to create very quick beautiful grays for shadows. I placed natural colors in the corners. The book also includes a large copy of Quiller's new color wheel, which I illuminated and put on the top of my palette. I used the big arrows for primary, skinny long arrows for secondary and small arrows for tertiary colors. In between I stayed with the color wheel but included colors I love. So far so good. I have only changed out one color and moved one color over one place when I replaced the color I didn't want. Have fun with your new palette.
That sounds fabulous. I have to admit I have not finished the set up!
The first thing I thought was "love it but couldn't cope with six months of colour choosing procrastination" but you're right, it would be great fun to set up. I love your tip of putting a good sized blob of paint plus a thinner layer to make colour identification easier, especially for us noobs. I'm off to the Meeden website now, "just to take a look"... 😜
‘just for a look’?? hee hee
😂😂😂
Hello. I’ve coveted this palette for a long time, via Mr. Quiller. Seeing what I hope is an endorsed product for much less has made me put it in my cart. I’m holding off for now. Thanks for the discount code! It may help me make my decision. 🌺
I do not know if it is an endorsed product, but it is a beautiful palette and extremely good value for money. Apparently it comes with a lid now…
I got one delivered today and it came with a plastic permanent cover!
Meeden listened to the feedback, so they come with covers now!
This has been in then out of my basket so many times! I really don't have enough space for it though and that makes my avaricious little soul so sad... I do have the large rectangular one with wells on 3 sides and its great. Love meeden palettes. I could never understand why people would buy the overpriced one. Think how much paint you could buy for the same cost!
Agreed! it is brilliant value for money and the difference would add up to lots of paper and paint. Go on! 😈 this is me trying to tempt you!
@@LizChadertonArt haha, enabler, temptress! My bank manager warned me about your sort.....🤣🤣🤣 I'm on a strict ban until I use up at least some of the supplies I already have. The review made it very difficult to resist though.
Oops! @@brackalack1 better get painting…..
I cannot believe they are selling that beauty for 50.00!!! 45.00 with the 10% off! Similar pallets are around 150.00 US. 🎉❤
They are such good value!
Hullo Liz and I got this palette just 2 months ago! I also got 2 of the 12 well palettes with the lid on one came broke and they replaced it no problems! I am not sure how it got broke but they were very nice about it and Wala! A New one was sent right away! I used the box it came in as a lid it fit just fine after I cut it down to size! (Looks like you did the same!) I used felt fabric and just glued it to the bottom and it slides quite easily. I also would not spend the price they want for the Quiller palette! I disagree about the nobs, opposite the nobs are larger pans and your primaries would go into them as you would use them the most right? SO I put the most paint in the "primary wells" I also put a line of paint at the base or bottom of the other wells and bring a tint towards the center to see the color of the paints. I have moved colors by scraping the dry color out of the well, "glue" it into a different well with new paint from the tube! Because like you I changed my mind! (I moved one of my convenience greens!) Wonderful video I wonder how your setting up the 12 well palette? I got one for the Discovering opaque colors palette from DaVinci! I had all of the colors except for Denise's Gray and Stormy Blue and I ordered tubes right away as I am a fan of Denise's!
yes, I think you are right about the knobs in hindsight! Nice to hear about good service from Meeden. Apparently they come with lids now.
p.s. Hobbycraft have 3 for 2 on art supplies at the minute, including the Winsor & Newton Professional range (plus Cotman etc.), a lot of the W&N, Daler Rowney inks, etc. Worth a visit if you're nearby. I may have been "persuaded" into buying tubes of alazarin crimson, french ultramarine in order to get another tube of green gold (because I love it and it was "free", right?!)
thanks for the heads up!
I know I'm being really lazy, but could you upload a template of your excellently drawn swatch diagram, please?
Sorry, I haven’t got a clean copy. Mine is all written and painted on.
Thanks anyway!@@LizChadertonArt
Thanks, Liz! Love it and just tried to buy on Meeden website but tols it's unavailable in my country (UK) ???😮💨
Oh no! They must have sold out. Might be worth emailing to check when the new stock is in?
Looks amazing. It weights more than my cat so dunno if she could harm it
I think she would struggle! it’s not like knocking a glass of water over….
Looked this up on the Meeden site and it comes with a plastic lid and says the bottom is smooth so it won’t scratch. I’m in the US so maybe the US version of their website/product list is different? $49.95 as you said but with a large plastic lid.
Interesting! Maybe this is an older model and they’ve listened to feedback. It’s a bargain with or without the lid!
@@LizChadertonArt yes it is a bargain! Thanks for sharing.
Apparently they do now come with a lid after customer feedback!
I just went to the website & it said it came with a cover.
Mine didn’t! which country are you in? Maybe it’s a new design? Someone in the USA said they had a cover….. It was easy to improvise, so I am not feeling hard done by….
@@LizChadertonArt I am in the USA, don't know if its new, but the price is the same. Maybe drop them an email & let them know yours didn't come with a cover. Love you, your art & your videos, sending hugs 🤗
I did check, and the new batch come with a lid! See pinned comment from them. They listened….@@sexylolamedusa
Overkill !!! ;-)
If you paint in a small space, it certainly is. But it’s gorgeous.
I've had this in my Amazon basket for a while ) can't see it on the Meeden GB website) but I haven't committed as it doesn't have a lid. I didn't think to make one out of the box, so thanks for that tip!
I think it’s gorgeous! So go for it 😊
Apparently they now come with a lid! I had an email this morning after they watched this
@@LizChadertonArt Aha! Well, that's my decision made, then.
Enjoy!@@clairekerr