Trails in the Sky Character Ranking - Part 3

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  • Опубликовано: 11 дек 2024

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  • @TheKisekiNut
    @TheKisekiNut  4 года назад +7

    Thank Aidios, the final part of the community ranking is complete! It’s been one heck of an enjoyable (and time-intensive) project, but I fully intend to do more of these in the future. If you guys enjoy this content, please remember to give a like, as it gives these videos a lot more traction. See you in 2 weeks time! 😊

  • @Adam.C
    @Adam.C 4 года назад +42

    Estelle has to be my favourite example of great character growth, I don't think I'll ever find a more amazing protagonist. I am happy with this ranking. You did it guys,well done.

    • @Starkride48
      @Starkride48 4 года назад

      In my opinion the only protagonist that rivals Estelle is... Kevin. Trails in the Sky is the best.

    • @TheKisekiNut
      @TheKisekiNut  4 года назад

      She's a fantastic character indeed. If it was me, she wouldn't be at the top, but I can definitely see why she ended up there. There are just so many brilliantly written characters in Sky, so arguably, we're spoilt for choice!

    • @cpgautam172
      @cpgautam172 4 года назад +4

      I don't know, I love llyod, his growth can be seen on the same scale as Estelle. N his intelligence is not overdone and doesn't come of as overly smart and irritating but comes of as a really smart detective. That makes him that bit more relatable than Estelle. For me that is anyway.

    • @johnle1535
      @johnle1535 4 года назад +1

      @@Starkride48 I dont even like Kevin that much as a main character. The overly hitting on girls is a bit much for a jrpg main character. I know it's different and loving. But its amazing for a side character which he definitely was, even in the 3rd sky he was the main focus but you can't help but to view Estelle and Joshua as the main characters over Kevin and the most useless Ries.

  • @luisaldo6569
    @luisaldo6569 4 года назад +40

    "JOSHUA IS A MUCH BETTER CROSSDRESSER THAN CLOUD" YESS THANK YOU,someone finally voiced it lol

    • @TheKisekiNut
      @TheKisekiNut  4 года назад +3

      Mate, it's not even close! Joshua actually looks alluring to a bloke, Cloud's just a dude with pigtails.

    • @Maghanashi
      @Maghanashi 4 года назад

      @@TheKisekiNut Remake begs to differ.

    • @curtiskay-lassels1633
      @curtiskay-lassels1633 4 года назад

      @@Maghanashi then Beg.

  • @wolfiexe
    @wolfiexe 4 года назад +4

    This was a good reminder as to just how great the Sky cast really is. The finale of 3rd especially is probably one of my favourite scenes purely because it highlights just how far everyone has came together, and just how much you've grown to love all of them now that the first major arc is over. Would be very interested to see more of these for the other Trails arcs if ever that becomes a priority!

    • @TheKisekiNut
      @TheKisekiNut  4 года назад +2

      Indeed! Lest we forget! This cast of characters is what started it all, and they still hold up as some of my favourite characters even now.

  • @00r99
    @00r99 4 года назад +9

    and heck yeah, for me Estelle, Renne and obviously Olivier are the best Sky characters!! damn i teared a bit when i saw Olivier in CSIII in his old outfit

  • @Gydokaiy
    @Gydokaiy 11 месяцев назад +1

    Oliver is really a good character, and what I like most about him is his voice, the same as Dio Brando

  • @SirBanana1992
    @SirBanana1992 4 года назад +2

    My top 1 is definitely Olivier but I understand that his importance is to the whole series and not just limited to one arc so he might not be the best character through the lens of a single arc.
    Estelle though...man, simply blown away by this character. Definitely the best protag of any game for me too. My main reason for liking her is definitely because of how refreshing of a protagonist she is compared to many. There's no dramatic backstory, not with her family, not with her friends, not with her lived experiences. As loewe says, she has no darkness (which is not to say she has no flaw). Normally that would be a boring character but, in the context of legend of heroes, she is the perfect character to explore zemuria's hidden darkness with and see how to rise above insurmountable odds when it seems like your character is only a very small gear in the whole machine, especially when said machine is hurting the people you care most about.

  • @NTLuck
    @NTLuck 4 года назад +6

    Just watched all three videos and i honestly agree with all of them. Except for 1 and 2. Estelle is definitely Bestelle in the Sky games but Olivier is perhaps my favorite character of the entire Trails series. Though to be fair i have not played the Crossbell arc yet but i did watch the video summaries of them.
    Btw, the character that comes closest to Cassius is Victor Arseid. They are both considered living legends, they are veterans of the army, they have badass daughters and are relatively chill characters. I'll never forget his entrance on the Pantagruel in CS2. The moment he landed i thought "That's it, Class 7 will survive". The exact same thing happened in the Infernal castle. Too bad his character is still not as fleshed out as Cassius which is why Cassius is an overall better character. Then again some people say Arios from Zero/Ao can give them a run for their money both combat wise and character wise. Not in the badass daughter aspect though but certainly in the cute ones.
    Here's hoping that you make similar videos on Crossbell and Erebonia Arcs.

    • @TheKisekiNut
      @TheKisekiNut  4 года назад +1

      Thanks for taking the time to watch them all! I would have to agree that Olivier is one of my favourite characters too, but for me, Estelle still wins out due to her down to Earth nature. I find myself relating a lot to her character, especially as it develops.
      In terms of who gives Cassius a run for his money, there are many more character that have appeared since the games have continued, and while Victor is indeed powerful, I'd still say Cassius is above him in combat potential (if he had his blade of course). The problem is power scaling is very difficult to judge in these games, as everyone seems to beat everyone on a chosen day, so it comes down to interpretation, and quotes in game. Arios is definitely below the two of them though. He may be powerful, but Cassius is his senior in the Eight Leaves school (he was the final test for Arios to receive his Divine Blade title), and Victor is the master of one of the main schools of swordsmanship in Erebonia, a land renowned for it's military might. Can't forget as well that Arios has openly admitted he's not at the same level as Cassius, thought this could be modesty. Again, it's tough to ascertain with the way the universe is.

    • @NTLuck
      @NTLuck 4 года назад

      @@TheKisekiNut Well good to know about Arios. Like i said, i haven't played Zero and Ao yet and I'm halfway through CS3. Once i'm done with it i'll play them :)

    • @joaopereira4218
      @joaopereira4218 3 года назад

      @@TheKisekiNut My man beeing his last test doenst mean he is superior to arius. In martial artas its only natural to have a senior student beeing the oponent of the younger student.
      Cassius is a great caracter but the guy gets to much love in my opinion.
      There are far more powerfull caracters than him right now.
      But yes he is above Arius.

  • @muichiro-kun14
    @muichiro-kun14 4 года назад +1

    Looking forward for crossnell arc character ranking like this one, I will be glad to vote for my best chars

  • @jackpimblo8476
    @jackpimblo8476 4 года назад +17

    Don't worry dude, I've been calling Agate 'A-gah-teh' this whole time.

    • @TheKisekiNut
      @TheKisekiNut  4 года назад

      At least I'm not the only one. I feel that the games dropped a bomb when it was voiceacted!

    • @Ragefat
      @Ragefat 4 года назад

      I've been calling him by what I think a Japanese would: Ah-ga-teh.
      Granted, my mother language is Brazilian Portuguese, so it makes things easier.

    • @joaomarcoscosta4647
      @joaomarcoscosta4647 4 года назад

      @@Ragefat Yup, I think this is the correct pronunciation.
      However, given that his name is written exactly like agate... (the stone) Even being a Brazilian, I thought his name was pronounced the same way as the dude in this video. ^^;

    • @Ragefat
      @Ragefat 4 года назад

      @@joaomarcoscosta4647 My line of thought is more related to the phonetics of BR Portuguese in comparison to English, it's easier for us to grasp the pronunciation.

  • @thecognitiverambler8911
    @thecognitiverambler8911 4 года назад +5

    It's funny how much my opinion of Estelle shaped and evolved over the course of the trilogy. I honestly hated her at first. She felt like a shounen-style "willpower and love conquers all!" type - and... well... she is. But she actually makes it work. She really is a testament to the quality Nihon Falcom's writing, that they can actually make an eternal optimist likable to me. She actually grows, and actually says the right clever things to make every broken person she comes into contact with want to believe in something again. The process feels real and tangible and those moments are what made this arc what it was.
    Estelle didn't make my top 5, mostly because of how much I loved some of the others (for me, I feel like Schera was underrated here!); but there was no outcome of this listing that was going to bug me. The entire cast is amazing and great. And while Estelle wouldn't quite fit in my top 5, I'm happy to raise a glass to the main character of my favorite game series of all time.

    • @TheKisekiNut
      @TheKisekiNut  4 года назад +2

      She is personified sunshine. As you say, the trope she represents can wear thin very quickly, but it's testament to the great writing that she doesn't get anywhere near the threshold for being annoying. SC especially shows that growth which is so fantastic to see from a front row perspective. It makes Estelle feel very 'real'; she grows and changes in believable ways, but still maintains her gung-ho attitude in lieu of maturing. Brilliant character, not surprised she ended where she did.

    • @thecognitiverambler8911
      @thecognitiverambler8911 4 года назад +1

      @@TheKisekiNut A touch that I don't think is ever blatantly spelled out: I always liked how Cassius (in his near inimitable wisdom) delivered Joshua to her even then as a mere child; knowing that she would be the best person in Zemuria for rehabilitating him. Again, her archetype is almost never one I go for. But she stands as the shining example of an eternal optimist done right.

    • @TheKisekiNut
      @TheKisekiNut  4 года назад +1

      @@thecognitiverambler8911 Well said, and I agree. That explanation has a lot more weight when you realise what Weissman was trying to do near the end of SC. Imagine if Joshua had killed Estelle while under his influence. It would have likely broken Joshua beyond repair, seeing the aftermath of killing his own shining light.

  • @ldudley2
    @ldudley2 3 года назад +4

    Biggest complaint: no Aina

  • @rriggs6547
    @rriggs6547 4 года назад +1

    I have no idea how anyone could possibly not rank her first. She is one of the best created characters in RPG history. And she just grows as the series does even through the Crossbell and Cold Steel arcs.

  • @xxmxysticxx1114
    @xxmxysticxx1114 10 месяцев назад

    this is proof how great the sky cast is as there are so many characters who deserve the number 1 spot even though I personally give it to Joshua

  • @Neko_Dave
    @Neko_Dave 4 года назад +9

    Bestelle is the best!

    • @TheKisekiNut
      @TheKisekiNut  4 года назад +2

      She is indeed amazing! 47% voted her where she was, so the community obviously thinks very highly of her.

  • @tyrell9232
    @tyrell9232 4 года назад +6

    I think Kevin has the potential to surpass Estelle if he was given more screentime or game.

    • @TheKisekiNut
      @TheKisekiNut  4 года назад +4

      It would be close, a lot of people consider Kevin to be their favourite character, but I think Estelle resonates with a lot more people. She's very relatable for a majority of players, and her growth is something you don't see with many other characters. Kevin has his struggles too for sure, but I think the maturing of Estelle over the series is beautiful to behold.

  • @00r99
    @00r99 4 года назад +1

    amazing videos and quality! keep up the good work man!

    • @TheKisekiNut
      @TheKisekiNut  4 года назад

      Thank you very much buddy, always good to see you sticking around in the comments! :)

  • @vvolfflovv
    @vvolfflovv 4 года назад

    Fantastic break down. Looking forward to more.

  • @rodney1234ize
    @rodney1234ize 4 года назад +2

    I fucking love olivier! Best character for me.

  • @iwanttoputkamuistoesinmymo5938
    @iwanttoputkamuistoesinmymo5938 4 года назад +1

    Top ten is about what i expected lol
    My personal top 5 would be :
    5. Loewe
    4. Kloe
    3. Olivier
    2. Estelle
    1. Renne
    Though to be fair renne only became my favorite after zero. If we were to be judging it solely by the events in sky i would swap her and estelle’s places.

  • @EdgyEmoLoliconBoy
    @EdgyEmoLoliconBoy 4 года назад +4

    If anyone here played cold steel 3...
    Do me a favor and inspect sara's 3d model and check if she wears anything down there.

    • @darkdiamondknight
      @darkdiamondknight 4 года назад

      Its harder than it seems. But I believe there is been a while thougg

  • @holyX
    @holyX 2 года назад +1

    Estelle is like Naruto somewhat

  • @EdgyEmoLoliconBoy
    @EdgyEmoLoliconBoy 4 года назад +3

    Can someone here explain the conflict between Olivier and Osborne please without sen 4 spoilers...
    Ive been playing this games and I dont understand the deal with those two love birds

    • @TheKisekiNut
      @TheKisekiNut  4 года назад +5

      Haven't played Sen 4, but ultimately, they're both vying for the same thing, the prosperity and pride of Erebonia. They both just go back about it using opposite methods. One uses force, the other finds more pacifist methods. One feels pride comes from conquest, another feels pride comes from finding a certain 'beauty' in life. It's an interesting divide between the two, and it's why they're constantly locking horns.

  • @Zakemaster
    @Zakemaster 4 года назад +2

    Just popping in 6 months late for the obligatory comment that the stone is, in fact, pronounced like Agg-it, not A-gate. A common mistake, but yeah, look it up.

  • @krazyq00
    @krazyq00 2 года назад +1

    Are their any spoilers in here for any of the other games, I just got the with the Sky series but don't want to know anything about future games.

    • @TheKisekiNut
      @TheKisekiNut  2 года назад

      Yes - I dig in to the character arcs, so expect spoilers.

  • @KisekiGamer1
    @KisekiGamer1 4 года назад +5

    I've always pronounced the stone like Agate's name...

    • @TheKisekiNut
      @TheKisekiNut  4 года назад +1

      Exactly what I thought, but according to later games with voice-acting, the pronunciation is A-Gat, which just took me back. Even now, I still see it as some sort of weird error that slipped through the quality control phase.

    • @KisekiGamer1
      @KisekiGamer1 4 года назад +2

      @@TheKisekiNut What I'm saying is that I don't pronounce the stone as A-gate

  • @monochrome74
    @monochrome74 2 года назад

    I was a little girl when I played Sora no kiseki, and I definitely liked Joshua more then Estelle, whether I was liking him as a "person-I-want-to-be-with" or "person-I-want-to-be". Especially because I tend to like gloomy characters. But now I recognise her growth, and even though she doesn't have a dark backstory (beside losing her mum) she is a complex and realistic character. Perhaps I don't resonate with her the most, but BESTelle deserves it.

  • @sillymel
    @sillymel 4 года назад +3

    But “agg it” is how the stone is pronounced, not “ay gate”...

  • @yangwenli6467
    @yangwenli6467 4 года назад +3

    I hope the sky characters get some screen time during hajimari no kiseki

    • @TheKisekiNut
      @TheKisekiNut  4 года назад +2

      I'd like to think they might get something, but honestly, I can only see Sky characters coming back in force come the next story arc. Characters like Anelace and Kilika I expect to see due to their Calvard ties, and who knows, we might get some others as well!

  • @Walamonga1313
    @Walamonga1313 2 года назад

    Olivier, Tita, Agate, Renne and Kevin are by far the best. No one else comes even close (although Ries could've, if she had a bit more time on screen) in the whole arc

  • @Haarwyvern
    @Haarwyvern 4 года назад

    I finished Sora 3rd yesterday So I could finally watch it (but eh I'm to late to vote for crossbell series)
    My top 3 probably is
    1- Renne 2- Loewe 3 Joshua (or maybe Tita/Kloe)
    Sad that the best third importance character best girl Maybelle isn't here even if it's fair.
    He isn't one of my favorite but Kurt deserves to be here. He is important for some character development and still important in some chapters more than the big bro of capua family or Ein.
    Really good top overall !

  • @Nikita_Akashya
    @Nikita_Akashya 3 года назад

    I really like Loewe and Stardoor 15 scarred me mentally. I'm really sad though that Loewe died. Imagine cassius adopting Loewe too. He could have tought him all kinds of things about life and teach him the way of the Bracer. Imagine Loewe as a Bracer. The guy would have climbed the Ranks even faster than Estelle. But I guess, in a way, dying was ultimately what brought him back to his beloved Karin. I'm still salty that I never got to use him in battle.
    Renne is a great character and first come off as really mean and sadistic killer, but then you get to her backstory and realize her environment made her that way. Just like Joshua was broken and then reformed by Weissmanns conditioning. And of course I love Bestelle! Especially when she whips out her one liners about her very large stick and how she will hit Olivier with it if he doesn't stop hitting on Joshua. Olivier is great. I just feel bad for the trauma he got from drinking with Aina. That woman has a liver of steel. And that liver of steel scarred Olivier for life. And he is just really funny in general. And i knew he had something going on with Schera! I knew it the moment they got on that Airship in Bose! And i really just like Estelles very large stick. The stick is the secret best character.

  • @hollamonm
    @hollamonm 5 месяцев назад

    Okay... so, just a note on Agate... in American English, it is pronounced A-gat... so it's likely our fault that it's not A-gate... but yeah, in American English, he and the stone are just pronounced as A-gat.

  • @sorrowinthewind4258
    @sorrowinthewind4258 2 года назад

    How was Cid in this list but not Aina or Mary who had their own moon door?

  • @dsjgfxxkhrx4050
    @dsjgfxxkhrx4050 4 года назад +2

    a gate that's how it's done

    • @TheKisekiNut
      @TheKisekiNut  4 года назад

      According to later games with voice acting, it's not. They hit us with 'A-Gat' which still sounds odd to me.

    • @dsjgfxxkhrx4050
      @dsjgfxxkhrx4050 4 года назад

      @@TheKisekiNut I don't think a voice actor can change a habit of mine

    • @dsjgfxxkhrx4050
      @dsjgfxxkhrx4050 4 года назад

      @@TheKisekiNut but you know I never got any of the pronunciations right in the sky games so there's that like I used to pronounce the last e in estelle

  • @mhasemore
    @mhasemore 4 года назад

    I was somewhat surprised Loewe wasn't higher but the top 4 felt very fitting.

    • @TheKisekiNut
      @TheKisekiNut  4 года назад

      Honestly, there's just too many awesome characters in this series. And this is just one arc!

    • @mhasemore
      @mhasemore 4 года назад

      @@TheKisekiNut If you want to do another list like this I'd say top music tracks would be the next logical step. Though admittedly that would be more difficult with around 150 tracks for the Sky Arc off the top of my head.

  • @pite9
    @pite9 4 года назад +2

    My top 5: This is based on only what I've seen from them in the Sky series.
    Kevin, Agate, Tita, Renne, Joshua/Estelle.
    I'm struggling to decide between Joshua and Estelle, and I always saw them as a pair, where they really bounce off eachother and make the other person better and more interesting. This is why they're tied.

    • @Walamonga1313
      @Walamonga1313 2 года назад

      Now this I can get behind. Especially with that Joshua/Estelle mix. Alone I don't really find them very compelling, but together they're quite good.

  • @EdgyEmoLoliconBoy
    @EdgyEmoLoliconBoy 4 года назад +3

    Richard my fav m8

    • @TheKisekiNut
      @TheKisekiNut  4 года назад +1

      He'd be in my top 10 buddy, but alas, he's just outside according to the community!

    • @simonchan6841
      @simonchan6841 4 года назад

      Disappointing Richard isn't appreciated more. He was a great antagonist and that meeting he has with Estelle before the finale in the bar was such a powerful moment for me.

    • @iwanttoputkamuistoesinmymo5938
      @iwanttoputkamuistoesinmymo5938 4 года назад

      ACertain RottenLuckChannel richard is in my top 10. He has the coolest fucking crafts in the series hands down

  • @topcatthegamer9541
    @topcatthegamer9541 4 года назад

    Love Estelle but Joshua was such a badass in SC that I could never let that image go.

    • @TheKisekiNut
      @TheKisekiNut  4 года назад

      I think that's what is so awesome though, he seems unstoppable in SC, but he's actually extremely vulnerable due to his past. I love the polarity of the character throughout the trilogy, until he finally finds himself with Estelle's help.

    • @topcatthegamer9541
      @topcatthegamer9541 4 года назад

      @@TheKisekiNut I get where you're coming from.

  • @DaLastMonster
    @DaLastMonster 4 года назад +1

    Where are you learning the pronunciations at?

    • @Eltron92
      @Eltron92 4 года назад

      Later games with voice acting.

    • @TheKisekiNut
      @TheKisekiNut  4 года назад +1

      Later games that had voice-acting. Some of them took me aback, so I had to try and adjust to it.

    • @DaLastMonster
      @DaLastMonster 4 года назад

      The Kiseki Nut I had specific way Loewe sounded in my head and now it is ruined.

    • @TheKisekiNut
      @TheKisekiNut  4 года назад +1

      @@DaLastMonster Oops!! Honestly, it could be wrong, but I'm going off the German pronunciation, which I believe is correct.

  • @thedoomedninjia
    @thedoomedninjia 4 года назад

    Great stuff man! What are the mangas you had in the video? Are the canon? Where can I buy/read them?

    • @TheKisekiNut
      @TheKisekiNut  4 года назад

      Yeah, the one I show is canon! It takes place concurrently with the Sky arc, so worth reading for some added context. You can find it here, only 3 volumes so can be read easily in 1 sitting. :)
      imgur.com/a/sHXdy
      Links to the other volumes are at the bottom when you finish.
      I would also suggest reading 'Ring of Judgement' if you've played Zero no Kiseki (and ONLY IF you've played Zero no Kiseki as it gives a bit of a spoiler in the novel for an event later on).
      Link for that one is here - mangaowl.net/single/4645/eiyuu-densetsu-zero-no-kiseki-pre-story-shinpan-no-yubiwa

    • @thedoomedninjia
      @thedoomedninjia 4 года назад

      @@TheKisekiNut Yesss! Thank again!

  • @aichisendou6375
    @aichisendou6375 4 года назад

    Man this list is very interesting as it goes from story perspective rather than battle contribution. So far all ranking I see is from battle contribution, so seeing this ranking is, yeah, very interesting experience
    But, whoever votes Renne at the 31st place, or anything below top 10 belongs to gehenna
    Not joking btw, even without Zero redemption arc she shouldn't be below top 10

  • @laxur1312
    @laxur1312 4 года назад

    All this talk about Tita, and no mention of how she becomes Death, destroyer of worlds once she gets her mech in Sky the Third.

  • @melchiah23
    @melchiah23 4 года назад

    I love this game.. Here in brazil, i dont find anyone for talk about this game.. Shameless

  • @Nigrantis
    @Nigrantis 4 года назад

    I call him A-GA-TAY ...

  • @akinelahi6580
    @akinelahi6580 3 года назад

    Estelle had some great moments but her dumb unfounded optimism was getting me a lot. The fact that Olivier was with the group all this time and pulled an wool over our beloved protagonist(Even Kevin did that)do not help the characterization of her.Joshua was the first to identify his identity. In my eyes Kevin's character was better characterized as a protag. The story has a lot of diplomatic plots with some of the great characters. Such Diplomatic lore with a simple and superficial protag doesnt fit in my eyes.
    But that is my opinion.

  • @peterparker1683
    @peterparker1683 3 года назад

    In my opinion Kevin>>>Estelle

  • @Next-xm2dh
    @Next-xm2dh 4 года назад +3

    Why Is Tita So High??? There's Literally Nothing Interesting About Her

  • @MarcusDragon
    @MarcusDragon 2 года назад

    Why is tita so high she is a crybaby man , , agate so be higher ,I love a tough ass character with no nonsense ,,I could play with him as the protagonist