Part 1 of 2 BMW M62 M62tu Timing Chain Guide Replacement and Complete Timing Procedure 540i 740i X5
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Part 1 of 2 BMW M62 M62tu Timing Chain Guide Replacement and Complete Timing Procedure 540i 740i X5 e38 e39 e53 ,
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If done right, these motors are great. My tip is when putting it back together, always use RTV in the corners where the gasket doesnt make perfect contact such as timing covers. I did mine, never leaked anything. Do it right, slow, and tighten to spec with RTV and its great. Its worth to remove the VANOS sprockets and get them rebuilt as well. These are the things that make the diesel noise on idle. Loose/stretched timing chain is what causes the rattle on startup. The chain smacks the guides, hence cracking them and causing this issue. The chains stretch!
Nathan thanks for providing such a great video. First time in my life I did timing chain replacement by watching your videos of my BMW 2002 X5 4.6 is, and I can't believe my car starts. Greatly appreciated Buddy...
Fantastic videos. Thanks very much for doing these.
Who else watching this again in 2020 just to make sure the steps are right?
"I think that's a bolt"... nope just a round thing.
Thanks for watching and Click this link for part 2 of the video,
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wow.what a video and patience.
just replaced the timing chain guides and gaskets on my e38.
just want to say thanks for MAKING VIDEOS IN A REAL DIY. its good to know someone is showing its work in a way that me or anyone else would try at home ( i meant got the wrong size socket haha)so, that being said THIS VIDEO JUST MADE ME TRY TO DO IT MYSELF BEFORE IT NEEDS . i just enjoyed this video .BY THE WAY I OWN A 04 BMW 545I THAT ITS ALMOST THE SAME. just little changes like air alternator instead of water cooled one.. etc.
+heriberto leiva Yes you have the n62, i would like to get one of those and do videos on it but every e60 or e65 i see that is cheap has title problems, for sure thats next on my list
Once again awesome video, thanks for hard work
Maybe you'd know. I have a 99 540i with 6-speed manual. I had the UUC v12 flywheel/clutch put on many years back. I'm now well into tear-down to replace the timing chain/guides. However, at TDC, the UUC flywheel has no pin hole - I can't use the locking pin to hold the flywheel and crankshaft at TDC. Is there a way to do timing correctly without using the locking pin?
Does this guy have a V8 in his living room?!?!That s what I'm talking about!!!
Can this be done without pulling the engine and can I buy all the tools needed for under 1k. What is the hardest part of this job to do for a newbie that hasn’t done this ever before
Was gifted an e39 540i in 2023… I find myself here again lol.
It’s said which way to turn the crankshaft bolt right or left?????
BI I SAW YOU VIDEO REPLACING THE WATER PUMP BUT MY PROBLEM IS HOW TO REMOVE THE HOSE UNDER THE WATER PUMP THAT CONECTED TO THE ALTERNATIR
Nice video Nathan!! Very helpful. I am using it currently to change guides on my 2000 540i. I have removed all timing cover bolts but cant seem to get the bottom cover to release. My oil pan looks different to yours. It protrudes forward past timing cover. I noticed you didn't have any bolts along bottom edge of the lower timing cover. Some nissans you have to drop oil pan and remove bolts to free up timing cover. I wonder if mine is like that? It doesn't come free. 5 bolts on each side and got the 10mm under water pump housing.
someone else had that problem but i cannot remember the solution, i think pull the small pan and then you can access the bolts
A little backwards but, at least we can see what you're doing.
5 horizontal bolts up passenger side (one is 13mm head), 5 horizontal bolts up driver's side (two are 13mm head), 5 bolts in upper middle (all 10mm), 6 vertical bolts in bottom (all 10mm), and the 1 bolt behind water pump in front of beak.
Don't waste 2 hours looking for the 7th bolt on the bottom there are only 6.
At what mileage would you recommend this procedure be done (assuming normal duty and regular oil changes). Is there a telltale that would confirm the guides are in need of replacement?
Pieces in the oil pan.
First sign is small bits of plastic in the lower oil pan. Every second oil change pop the pan off to sift for pieces. Second sign is a strong rattle sound on cold start, although this can happen before the first sign. Third sign is a constant rattle during idle that's very loud and sounds exactly like a chain slapping metal at high speed. As soon as you get the third sign DO NOT drive the car as you risk the chain skipping a tooth and damaging your cylinders. Ideally budget the time and money for this procedure before you even get the first sign, around 120k miles usually
When the lower cover comes off there looks to be 4 vertical bolts holding the cover to the pan and then 1 vertical on each side. Is there one more bolt that comes in horizontal from the rear? At 34:29 you can count 6 holes on the oil pan for bolts coming up through the bottom into the front cover, but is there a seventh??
Thanks!!
I actually appreciate that you didn't speed up or skip anything (i.e. do something off screen), which I think is the only video on RUclips like that for this engine. So I appreciate that. We can speed up or skip if we want, but I think the video should always be complete. I'm just going through videos now in preparation to do my timing chains on both my E53 4.4i and 4.6is...
I am changing the timing guides on my M62 (2004 Range Rover). As you stated the upper guide completely let go. The left hand guide, the staionary one, broke in half when I was removing it. The notch at the bottom broke loose as well. For the life of me I can't seem to find the clip that holds on the new one. Do you have a part number for this clip or is it even necessary to have one?
Thanks
I just bought a pretty neglected 1999 E38 that runs and drives; learning all I can about her so I can bring her back. Looking forward to more videos. Subscribed.
Hello. Really enjoy your BMW DIY videos. Thanks for putting many together. I have a question, I started doing my chain guides on my 2000 540i M62TU ordered all the parts need including the timing tools. I got the new guides on (I just replace the main guided not the shoe guides on top) and the timing tool tensioner. I didn't touch Vanos sprockets throughout the process because I was just replacing the main guides. At that point I decide to remove the cam locks and crank pin to hand rotate the engine to check my work and it skipped tooth smh. Causing the driver side cams to rotate, but not the passenger side. My question. Is there an easy way to fix this? I rotated back to top dead, But the cams on both sides are clearly not positioned correctly. Any help would be graciously accepted. Thanks again
Well back a year later with a 108,000 mile car, preparing to do this job again. bought it for 500.00 but as you can see a deal too good to be true most likely is. At least you got me through it the first time now it should be much easier. Cheers Mate.
Hello NATHAN I have a question for you.
Should I replace my transmission oil on my 2001 BMW 740 IL it have 135,000 miles I have no problems with it but I want to know if I should do it?? Thank you
Shamid
Yes you should , use valvoline max life multi-vehicle , its $17 a gallon at walmart
Thank you very much!!👏👏 keep up your excellent videos, you’re doing a great job. How about the timing chain, where are s the best place should I buy it for?? And thank you again👏👏👏👏🙏🏻
I still don't understand how you take out the crankshaft bolt they are torqued to almost 450 ft lb how can u take off such thing? anybody help?
I want to thank you soooooo much for these videos, I hate it so much when dorks on youtube don't show you anything because they FF through Important parts... So THANK_YOU fgor showing all the steps...
Just wanted to know if crank bolt was normal or left thread ended up watching almost 30 videos then came across this. Only video to actually take time and not skip any process. 5 star and very informative
HOW BOUT YOU SHOW HOW YOU REMOVED THE CRANKSHAFT BOLT NEXT TIME🤦♂️
Nathan, do you recommend using a company like INA or Fibi when sourcing any parts for this job (chain tensioner, guides, chain ect...) or use all BMW stuff?
Thank you
Hi Nathan- Any thoughts on deleting the silver EGR pipe that connects the two cylinder banks?
Basically, i'd like to get rid of all the related stuff like DISA valve and oil separator, etc.
Incredible videos! By far the most helpful on RUclips.
Does this procedure generally apply to the S62 engine as well?
Are these motors reliable? I’m looking at a 01 740li with 130k. Is 130k a lot of miles for these cars?.
Hi Nathan im doing this in the car (x5) at the moment is there anywhere to disconnect the wires to the fuel injectors, iv got them off the fuel rail but can't seem to find where i could move them to make the job ezy
Thanks
Nathan thank you so very much for the excellent videos , I’m looking at lot of your videos before I do my 740 👏🏼👏🏼
damn ur a life saver thank you so much for this videos
No problem im happy it helped
Hi Nathan, if I want to replace only the valve cover and upper timing covers do I have to drain the rad and remove the coolant hoses? Thanks/John
First of all thank you Nathan for the video but a lot of people skip this part... how did you get the crankshaft bolt out?
I’m so obsessed with the m62 it’s one of the coolest engines ever if I can learn this I’ll be able to afford one
Do i need to Mark the old chain, new chain as old markings and the sprockets, before the old chain goes down ?!
Perfect
How can I open that valnos valve with out that tool 32 mm or box with think wall
Was the engine already at TDC prior to removing the crank pulley?
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Nathan does the motor have to come out in order to do a complete timing chain replacement on the 540il?
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"I think that's a bolt"... nope just a round thing.
Hey, you dont have to take off the alternator to do this job right?
the 98 E38 doesn't have vanos correct? Do you think the timing chain guide job is doable with only the flywheel pin and the cam locking set? And if so do you recommend aftermarket guides or oem? Thanks
Correct no vanos until 99, the job is much easier
What size is the bolt on the lower pulley?
Hey, Nathan. Totally awesome vid! Really appreciate the patient explanation and detailed discussion of what's going on. I have one question, though. How did you get the camera to "breathe" while you filmed? I am totally stumped as to how you made it go back and forth--I thought the engine was rocking but the door was moving too. (Sorry for the stupid question.) LOL :-P
Sometimes it does that i noticed, something with the auto focus
Hello Nathan, I am at the point of taking the guides off, my question is, Do I have to take the chain off to replace just the guides? I was hoping not to use this timing tool set if i did not have to. :/ Thanks
you will have to re-time it for sure, you will have to remove the big U shaped guide and therefore you will have to remove the chain from at least one of the cams
Thanks for posting this thorough set of videos. It has given me the confidence to change the timing chain guide on my 1999 e38. Thinking I am going to pull the engine because I want to change the main seal as well as the valley pan gasket. any recommendations for replacing main seal?
King Motorsport how’d you do thinking of getting an 99
Thanks for the video Nathan! I just did the job (yikes) and my car is running great. However, I used the tool you mentioned I shouldn't use (bolts to timing cover instead of screwing into vanos solenoid) and I have a P0021 Timing advanced code in bank 2. I know theres a torx screw in the upper timing cover you should be able to fit something through (maybe drill bit) that should go into a hole in the timing sensor wheel. I can't find an answer on this... but I would guess you just have to set the motor to TDC with the pin then put a bit in, however I saw one forum user state you need to install cam blocks. That seems odd to me, do you have to install blocks to check timing through the inspection hole?
@Not Hitler I had the tool but the one I ordered was sloppy. I took the valve cover off about six times and got the cog on the end of the bank 2 cam clocked correctly. It's been running well for almost two years.
Hey Nate I have a 525i that randomly has the break and abs light turn on "which I think is the sensor" also sometimes it will rev to about 1500 two or three times then shuts off...have any ideas of what it might be???
+Sammy Muna The reving up sounds like a vacuum leak at the throttle body boot or your icv needs to be cleaned, i did a video awhile back on that you will have to search my channel for "icv" to find it, also check out the creator i310 and the round adapter if your car is pre 2001 to read the abs codes, that scanner does all and are around $40 off ebay
Good stuff! Would you mind sharing some suggestions on how to remove the main bolt from the crank pulley? I think that's the hardest part of the job! I broke the flywheel pin in my timing tool kit trying to remove that bolt. Is there something else I can use to hold the crank in place? Or something to loosen it up a bit before trying to put a wrench on it?
Dave M
Look up the m62tu crank pulley hold tool, it's like a ring welded to a long pipe that you bolt up like the crank pulley but it holds the pulley dead-on while you crack the Jesus bolt loose. DO NOT use the crank pin to hold it, not nearly strong enough
very instructional, thanks
Your garage is really nice.
can you take the lower timing cover off with out taking the tops off. my cover cracked by alternator.
I never tried that but i wouldnt see why not
Can you do this without taking the engine out?
I am also wondering.
DrE38 yeah you can. To get the same space as him you have to take off core support and radiator and condenser and clutch fan. I'm doing it now.
Para's Garage did you do it correctly
What timing kit did you get
Where can I find the part 2 video to this I am thinking of doing this job soon...
+Hakim Scott I just put it up yesterday, so go to my channel and it is on the main page
my passager sides cam shafts moves after torquing and removing blocks in the back ? Any suggestions?
its normal for it to snap back when you pull the blocks off
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when it snap back it's out of time
Did you re-use the gaskets? and if so did you use sealant?
I did re-use the gaskets since they were still soft, i used ultra grey on everything
How many times have you done this repair?
+wisesselo m62tu 6-7 times
The TU its better than simple M62 ??
Tu is worse. Non vanos engines usually don’t have this problem
where were you 3 weeks ago with the video man? lol
+frank aranda Sorry about that but i just now had the chance to put the video up
You live any where near New York City ? I'd pay you to rebuilt my e38 with a few beers
+Vladimir Ralbovski hello sorry I am in Missouri
All good thanks for replying I had 5 bmw's so far 89 750il got video doing rookie donut still own two e38 95,00 had m3 and 850 csi 91 .. lots of fun worked on lot of them but never tried to take it apart like you do..no room NYC sidewalk, only option lol.. from serbia also got tone of space there but I own the only e38 in Serbia currently import from USA.. god bless you thanks for video ill go in myself once I got a station.. I'll follow you on instagram if you have one ? Cheers
Hello Nathan, I am at the point where I take the Crankshaft bolt off, Is there a trick or tool I need to know before tackling this task?
its standard thread and you will have to install the crank locking pin that comes with the timing kit and use a breaker bar to loosen it, they are usually pretty tight, a big impact works too
Thanks, I saw some nightmare threads on this, I will let you know how it goes. Thank You for the DIY Vid. I studied this for 3 days and must say it really helped. Thanks.
You can imagine when i learned how to do this there were no videos and the dealers around here dont do this job , well they will tell you they can all do it ,until you start asking questions and it becomes clear quickly they have never done the job lol
hey man great video and thanks for posting. I'm doing this in a Range Rover and cannot get the lower case off. I have every bolt off including the water pump and have only got the slightest bit of movement on the left side of the case the right side won't budge. any advice? I also noticed what could be tensioner coming up behind the water pump, do you recall this?
There are 2 on each side going into the oil pan that are commonly missed, 1 is behind the power steering pump
I removed four 10 millimeter Bolts from the bottom and then two directly under the case where in your video you had three. there is a t47 bolt under the behind the power steering pump any idea if that needs to be removed?
correction, that t50 is right behind the water pump
If you haven't got it, I assume you did though, it's the power steering pump most likely.
I got it. Thanks for your help.
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i wish this video was out a few months earlier...ugh.
+omar k Sounds like you are like everyone else and had this problem, the timing video and reassembly video will be up soon.
+Nathan's DIY Garage when will it be up?
i am filming it now, hopefully tonight or tomorrow
+Nathan's DIY Garage thank you!
Nathan, you're a legend! Thanks for these vids! I'm currently about to do this with the engine in the car. What are you thoughts on cracking the crank bolt by using the starter motor? Don't have the special tool and don't want to put that much pressure on the locking pin.
Cheers thanks!
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How did you take off the Crank Pully? You didn't show us?
No He did not, But he did tell us, you put the crank pin into the flywheel @ top dead center LINE up o/t mark on crank pulley with the mark on the timing chain cover, then put lock pin in the flywheel from front or back of flywheel depending on vehicle the m62tu is in. Listen to video at around 2:15 . then use 32mm socket (I think ....maybe it's 34mm? ) on crank bolt.
What a CHEAT! If you can't show how to do it with the engine attached; you're not showing the real challenges that occur. Useless. I really thought you were better than that.