Which “Untouched” Gen 1 Pokémon are Still the Most Useful?

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  • @CyberchaoX
    @CyberchaoX Год назад +63

    Cloyster seems like a major omission. They've been powering it up the "boring" way, by giving it a strong ability in Skill Link and good moves like Shell Smash, Icicle Spear, and Rock Blast.

  • @cmoney8979
    @cmoney8979 Год назад +452

    I genuinely forget goldeen and seaking exist sometimes

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Год назад +57

      You and me both!

    • @conradlorgar5508
      @conradlorgar5508 Год назад +37

      Because just a fish doesn't especially stand out

    • @orbboom6119
      @orbboom6119 Год назад +35

      I only remember them cuz misty had a Goldeen😅

    • @bluebaron6811
      @bluebaron6811 Год назад +25

      Me and my friend brainstormed an evolution for Seaking once. It would have a bigger horn, 1 extra point put into Attack, and nothing else.

    • @owengonzalez6819
      @owengonzalez6819 Год назад +12

      @@bluebaron6811 bruh that reminds me of when I brainstormed a Dunsparce evo (note: I had not been online at this point so I had never seen any of the fan concepts of a God Snake). It was a Dunsparce with much bigger wings, and nothing else new.

  • @robertlupa8273
    @robertlupa8273 Год назад +72

    If it wasn't for Toedscruel, I would say Tentacruel. It's been easily available in almost every region, it's quite strong, even on Smogon it never dropped below UU _until Sword/Shield._ That's pretty good for a Gen 1 Pokemon.

    • @hitlerisanoob
      @hitlerisanoob Год назад +4

      People sleep on tentacruel because of the memes but if you actually use it it's the man. Always useful when i decide to use it

    • @itstheman0nthem00n
      @itstheman0nthem00n 3 месяца назад +1

      Gen 1 Pokémon still hold up pretty good considering the power creep of the latest gens surprisingly

  • @nintendolife25
    @nintendolife25 Год назад +71

    I remember finding a fanart of Salamence, Metagross, Tyranitar, and Garchomp all mocking Dragonite for not getting a Mega Evolution. But I find it funny that three out of the four would fluctuate in competitive usage, while Dragonite still has competitive viability even in Gen 9. I guess Gen 1’s Pseudo legendary gets the last laugh. Great video, Emperor Cubone!

    • @GoinGreninja
      @GoinGreninja Год назад +17

      It's mainly because of its ability Multiscale and its good movepool.

    • @CoffeeFlavoredMilk
      @CoffeeFlavoredMilk Год назад +13

      @@GoinGreninja Thanks to Tera as well, Dragonite can get STAB on its plethora of coverage options. It was popular at first for combo of STAB ExtremeSpeed + Dragon Dance, though you can also use Tera defensively cause of Dragonite's good bulk and Multiscale.
      It and Volcarona seem to be the earlier gen Pokemon that benefit the most from Tera IMO. (I'd say Volcarona's ironically gotten BETTER over the gens overall even with the nerf of Drought but that's getting ahead of myself)

    • @GoinGreninja
      @GoinGreninja Год назад +3

      @@CoffeeFlavoredMilk Yeah, some do get advantages out of it indeed. Wonder what it'll do next gen...

  • @Kakkarot22
    @Kakkarot22 Год назад +45

    I was gonna comment on Arcanine being deserving of the top spot here... but then I remembered they FINALLY gave it something new in Legends Arceus

  • @combro7096
    @combro7096 Год назад +190

    It’s probably worth mentioning that some of these Pokémon DID have their base stats increased in later generations, and that’s part of the reason why they’ve stayed good. In gen 6, both Nidoqueen’s attack was raised from 82 to 92, and Nidoking’s attack from 92 to 102. Also in gen 7, Dodrio’s speed was increased from 100 to 110

    • @olympusgolemoflight7198
      @olympusgolemoflight7198 Год назад +16

      Except that Nidoking doesn't even use his attack.

    • @FraserSouris
      @FraserSouris Год назад +12

      @@olympusgolemoflight7198
      Technically, Nidoking does sometimes run Superpower for coverage

    • @c_f0rce
      @c_f0rce Год назад

      Oh yeah. Nidoqueen because she definitely runs physical attacks... Right. I guess Nidoking can run super power for Blissey/Chansey. But yeah. Big miss here.

    • @c_f0rce
      @c_f0rce Год назад +2

      ​@@FraserSourisIt runs superpower for a SINGLE pokemon. Blissey. That's literally one pokemon.

    • @FraserSouris
      @FraserSouris Год назад +3

      @@c_f0rce To be fair, it is a worthwhile Poke to be able to take down. Not many Special Attackers can say they have the means to take on Blissy.

  • @arininquotes8396
    @arininquotes8396 Год назад +206

    This video made me realize how much we need a future paradox Psyduck (or Golduck) that has mastered control of its headaches to become a psychic robot.

  • @Compucles
    @Compucles Год назад +27

    You actually do get a Moon Stone early on in Gen 1, so yes, it's quite easy to get a Nidoking/queen by the 2nd gym, which was especially useful in Yellow Version where they learn Double Kick at L12.

    • @G1nger519
      @G1nger519 Год назад +3

      There is actually 2 moon stones in my moon in gen 1 so you could have Nidoqueen and Nidoking before misty

  • @JesusMartinez-rr2ry
    @JesusMartinez-rr2ry Год назад +54

    Dodrio being able to learn Fly is still a mystery.

  • @thegreatgrapehippo1614
    @thegreatgrapehippo1614 Год назад +68

    Cloyster is one of my go to pokemon. That Shell Smash, Skill link, and ice shard is too strong. It sweeps

    • @CheeseBlaster
      @CheeseBlaster Год назад +16

      its actually baffling how nobody talks about how insane cloyster can get

    • @ctoooc
      @ctoooc Год назад +1

      Early Gen 8 OU...

    • @victorarreola
      @victorarreola Год назад

      I’ve been victim to many shellsmash max hits icicle spear from cloister 😅 skill link ability is scary

  • @HylianWindRider
    @HylianWindRider Год назад +63

    Nidoqueen had a slight design change in gen 4 with her fangs being removed, and a ten point stat buff. But they really need to fix the breeding issue!

    • @nazeersadek6705
      @nazeersadek6705 Год назад +10

      Apparently that’s intentional if you watch the lost Pokédex videos on did you know gaming then it was planned like that for whatever dumb reason

    • @HylianWindRider
      @HylianWindRider Год назад +7

      @@nazeersadek6705 Well, at least it saved her from the weird breeding pokemon are notorious for.

    • @batsnghostz
      @batsnghostz Год назад +3

      @@HylianWindRider im 98% sure it’s because rhinoceroses dont breed well in captivity. And theyre sort-of based on rhinoceroses

    • @HylianWindRider
      @HylianWindRider Год назад +1

      @Frozen Raichu I can see the resemblance in Nidoqueen's ears, they look like a rhinoceros' ears.

    • @christianthomas8069
      @christianthomas8069 Год назад +4

      @@batsnghostz is it a rhino? Can never really tell with gen one designs tbh. Like what is slowpoke meant to be exactly.

  • @jpdtrmpt7217
    @jpdtrmpt7217 Год назад +17

    I know you're not a competitive guy but Dragonite getting extreme speed and multiscale has it playing a huge part in vgc right now.

    • @remington238
      @remington238 Год назад +1

      terastalize is what’s making stab banded extreme speed strong

  • @ianhornbuckle9089
    @ianhornbuckle9089 Год назад +94

    Starmie is still possibly my favorite water type Pokémon to this day. Ever since I saw misty use it in the anime. I always loved how it doesn’t have a face and the noises it makes 😍

    • @joemonteirosportsshorts3343
      @joemonteirosportsshorts3343 Год назад +16

      *HYYYYYYYA*

    • @SS4Luxray
      @SS4Luxray Год назад +6

      Same. It's just so good stat wise and the moveset is so diverse.

    • @toxicperson8936
      @toxicperson8936 Год назад +5

      Starmie has always been one of my favorites too! Ever since using it in Kanto all those years ago. Surf, Psychic, ThunderBolt, & Ice Beam (or Blizzard in Gen 1.) It’s definitely one of the most underrated ‘mons, & one of, if not the best Pokémon to use in a Gen 1 playthrough.

    • @jamiejennings6955
      @jamiejennings6955 Год назад +1

      Recovery thunderbolt blizzard and rapid spin starmie so good

    • @emilysmith2965
      @emilysmith2965 Год назад

      Me as a kid: starfish. I think this will make a squishy, sort of wiggly noise
      The anime: karate man

  • @zachpro5475
    @zachpro5475 Год назад +30

    I would like to see a series where you go over 6 Pokémon every region that need special treatment

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Год назад +11

      There's probably a lot more than that, so it could be done...

    • @HeyHeyChey
      @HeyHeyChey Год назад +1

      Or maybe a series of some ideas that could probably be done for some of the untouched mons like a split evo for Dragonair, or a Pychic type regional Arbok, etc

  • @GoinGreninja
    @GoinGreninja Год назад +123

    Dragonite really does deserve some kind of special treatment. I honestly don't get how it still didn't get it by now when it's still a popular Pokémon to this day. A regional evolution or a regional form, a gimmick form like the upcoming Tera Masks or even just a signature move would do so much for it. And to add, Staryu still can be made into a regional form or convergent evolution if need be in a future generation, the potential is clearly there.

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Год назад +26

      Yeah, a regional Starmie seems easy enough and honestly deserved...

    • @Watch-0w1
      @Watch-0w1 Год назад +10

      @@emperorcubone I thinking future paradox form of starmie satellite.. I saw once fan art

    • @marlonknockaert3233
      @marlonknockaert3233 Год назад +6

      I truly believe we are going to see something called 'teraforms' where pokemon get a special look and they are able to change up to two types, I believe we could see a water/dragon dragonite that resembles dragonair in the DLC :)

    • @GoinGreninja
      @GoinGreninja Год назад +3

      @@marlonknockaert3233 I already know about Tera Masks. I didn't mention them for nothing. Yes, these Tera Masks will likely give a fixed dual type and maybe change Tera Blast to work differently as well.

    • @felixdaniels37
      @felixdaniels37 Год назад

      It doesn't really NEED it though. Dragonite has already been getting tons of buffs throughout the years, to the point where it's arguably one of the strongest psuedo legendaries now.

  • @blackestyang7528
    @blackestyang7528 Год назад +4

    venomoth's been stonks ever since it got Quiver Dance, dodrio actually got a stat buff, and starmie and dragonite have actually kept up pretty well

  • @PKMN1Luv23
    @PKMN1Luv23 Год назад +11

    I feel like they're waiting to give the Dragonite line something special in Gen 10. I mean with it being 30 years of the franchise at that point, I feel like many classic Pokémon will get something new in Gen X. Also inb4 Eevee gets 3 new evolutions to commemorate 3 decades of Pokémon. I find it highly suspicious that we haven't a new Eeveelution in close to 10 years, they're literally money makers for Pokémon.

  • @nightfrostbreeze
    @nightfrostbreeze Год назад +5

    I would love to see an alternate form of Dragonite that looks more like Dragonair. Don't get me wrong I love Dragonite as it is and wouldn't want it to be replaced, but something that can stand alongside it in terms of strength that maintains the elegance of Dragonair would be super cool!

  • @bowtiesrcool86
    @bowtiesrcool86 Год назад +6

    I like the Doduo line. In fact: Dodrio was the first pokemon I ever got to lv 100 way back on Pokémon Blue

  • @aayanmukadam2538
    @aayanmukadam2538 Год назад +9

    In my first playthrough of firered, my nidoking was more overleveled than my venusaur and basically swept through Surge, koga(with a bit of struggle), sabrina, blaine, giovanni, bruno and blue's teams. To this day it remains as my favourite gen 1 pokemon. And my favourite poison type overall.

  • @MezmerKaiser725
    @MezmerKaiser725 Год назад +1

    3:41 I always loved how cool Golduck looked in that TCG art

  • @gerasimosst8643
    @gerasimosst8643 Год назад +2

    Excellent video, and a great synopsis of the kinda neglected gen 1 pokemon!

  • @blazie42069
    @blazie42069 Год назад +39

    A regional variant of Starmie is something i'm amazed that doesn't exist...
    Also starmie is currently sword and shield NU but don't let that fool you! Its perfectly viable in RU and UU and very good in those tiers as well!

    • @GoinGreninja
      @GoinGreninja Год назад +7

      Agreed. It's basically made for the convergent evolution idea.

    • @aknightwithme
      @aknightwithme Год назад +4

      Starmie is an anomaly. It is actual good in ou but it dose t get used much. In gen 9 it’s absolutely broken

  • @bravewater5737
    @bravewater5737 Год назад +6

    10:51 I had both Nidoqueen and Nidoking on my team for Fire Red. They really helped me out through the whole game.

  • @Migy
    @Migy Год назад +4

    Ur my inspiration, Bro!
    Keep UP with the Flawless Work

  • @TheRealSaltySalad
    @TheRealSaltySalad Год назад +18

    I have used a venomoth in S/V, and can agree venomoth and venonat is amazing!! Great Video!
    Also the nidos and starmie have definitely saved me at some point!

    • @Mojavekight17
      @Mojavekight17 Год назад +2

      Roadhouse Texasroadhouse!

    • @zephon6745
      @zephon6745 Год назад +1

      Venomoth should get a Bug Psychic version. Golduck should get the Psychic type.

  • @Rose-yx6jq
    @Rose-yx6jq Год назад +1

    7:27
    They just didn't want to have to make an item called "Dragoniteite"

  • @prabhureubenthomas6052
    @prabhureubenthomas6052 Год назад +1

    3:52 SWIFT SWIM AND NASTY POLT AAAAAHHHHHH

  • @Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy
    @Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy Год назад +11

    I love this video idea. Can't wait to watch it

    • @AscendedXSaiyan
      @AscendedXSaiyan Год назад +2

      Same! It's such a great series idea! Can't wait to see some of the names that can pop up

  • @Hiushisan
    @Hiushisan Год назад +3

    Golduck is just insanely reliable. In gen 6/7, cloud nine obliterated primal Groudon, and Damp is invaluable for shiny hunting in any gen. The last thing you want is to find a shiny Graveler/Boldore only to have it explode on you. And Golduck's stats are right in that sweet spot where they're not too high, not too low.

  • @kiddextersgodlyadventure129
    @kiddextersgodlyadventure129 Год назад +8

    Looking forward to this being a series

  • @TheLemonyBard
    @TheLemonyBard Год назад +1

    It’s funny you mention Venomoth’s viability in battle; I just recently learned that competitive RBY (Gen 1) players typically see it as one of if not the best bug in the generation

  • @mothwizard3095
    @mothwizard3095 Год назад +4

    Venomoth and Dragonite are two of my favorites, I really hope they get some love :)

  • @iamsojulia
    @iamsojulia Год назад +1

    Amazing video. Immediately subbed!

  • @reesh2257
    @reesh2257 Год назад +13

    With all the gen 2 additions in gen 8 and 9 a gen two video would be interesting
    Although there aren't a lot of them

    • @Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy
      @Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy Год назад +1

      Yeah stuff like Shuckle still exists, but a lot of good ones are probably off the list (Girafarig,Statler, etc)

    • @GoinGreninja
      @GoinGreninja Год назад +2

      Skarmory, Mantine and Smeargle sound like good additions to the list, I'd say.

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Год назад +3

      Girafarig would've 100% been on the list 6 months ago...

    • @lipika2841
      @lipika2841 Год назад

      @@GoinGreninja Feraligatr, Crobat & Forretress are solid picks too.

    • @lipika2841
      @lipika2841 Год назад

      Even still, it'd be easier to make a worst list for this topic instead with mons like Magcargo, Octillery, Ledian, Ariados, Furret, Sunflora, Jumpluff, Sudowoodo, Unown (it has gotten 2 new letter forms in G3 & had a collectible role in PLA. So technically, it's not 'untouched' but would you actually count those? 'Cause I don't).

  • @HeyHeyChey
    @HeyHeyChey Год назад +5

    It would be nice to have a regional Arbok just to complete the original Rocket trio

  • @BigPat216
    @BigPat216 Год назад +1

    You never run out of fantastic ideas.

  • @Roinaeh
    @Roinaeh Год назад +1

    Starmie in this list is something that makes me happy. Always loved it since a child and it's one of a few Pokémon that can run the same set since Gen 1. It's cool, strong and has a great design.

  • @Frokken
    @Frokken Год назад +4

    Off the top of my head without seeing the video, Starmie comes to mind.

  • @batsnghostz
    @batsnghostz Год назад +2

    At least Charizard didn’t get a z-move

  • @AfterTheFirstNever
    @AfterTheFirstNever Год назад +1

    Love this video idea! Very creative my Emperor Cubone.

  • @Sethafella
    @Sethafella Год назад +1

    Before I watch, I can only think of one Pokémon. Dragonite

  • @signalfirefly
    @signalfirefly Год назад +1

    Dragonite and the Nidos haven't changed because they're perfect the way they are. (Except for -queen's breeding issues and shiny coloring, but those aren't problems mega evolution can fix.)

  • @wienerschnitzel1739
    @wienerschnitzel1739 Год назад +1

    This is a unique and cool idea for a series, I’m excited to see more 🤯

  • @georgehughes2521
    @georgehughes2521 Год назад +1

    Great video idea, super original!

  • @SegaMario
    @SegaMario Год назад +1

    Dragonite fascinates me - the OG Pseudo-Legendary, yet got zero special treatment. You'd think it would get something, being from the region that GAME FREAK never fails to make it known to us at every given moment, but nope, nothing.
    Fans have wanted a Mega or a regional that makes it consistent with its pre-evolutions.

  • @fenixrises9854
    @fenixrises9854 Год назад +1

    I love using starmie in leaf green. Surf, psychic, ice beam, and thunderbolt make up an almost perfect moveset for taking on the elite four with just one Pokémon and it has the speed and special attack to make good use of those four moves

  • @Lord_Nexus14
    @Lord_Nexus14 Год назад +1

    I'm glad the Nidos are at the top, these guys are so amazing I'm not sure why they don't get enough attention...

  • @kalosianporygon
    @kalosianporygon Год назад +1

    Before I even watched the video, I know Dragonite is going to be here. Extreme Speed, Multiscale, and the Physical-Special split are the only changes it got, and that's okay.

  • @CaptainObliviousV
    @CaptainObliviousV Год назад +1

    Funnily enough, the Psyduck line is one of very few to be natively available in literally every mainline game (no surprise that Let’s Go limits this list to Kanto mons). My best guess is probably because Psyduck is Junichi Masuda’s favorite Pokémon

  • @jayrome1884
    @jayrome1884 Год назад +1

    I'd love to see the Nidos return in the S/V DLC, with how easy it is to put your hands on an Ability Patch and a Life Orb, finally people will be able to see their true Power.
    I had a Sheer Force Modest Nidoqueen in Sword, I gave it a Life Orb and it never disappointed me, now I'd love to try the King, cause as you said it's even more offensive than the Queen.

  • @grapesvine
    @grapesvine Год назад +2

    If this becomes a series I think it should end around Gen 5 because Gen 6 is were all the gimmicks start coming in.

  • @Anditeshordo
    @Anditeshordo Год назад +2

    I know not on the list but having Rhydon line and The Nidos added to Scarlett and violet. The nidoking and queen lines are some of my favorites!

    • @GoinGreninja
      @GoinGreninja Год назад +1

      The Rhydon line has special treatment already with Rhyperior and yes, the Nidos count.

  • @lilbirdmuse8938
    @lilbirdmuse8938 Год назад +1

    I’d like Dragonite more if it was more sleek like Dratini and Dragonair rather than flying Barney. Also why the sudden change to orange? Just feels weird evolutionwise.

  • @MrZer093
    @MrZer093 Год назад +1

    Nidoking is a staple in speedruns for gen 1 games too. Early mon that has good stats and a varied movepool. It’s common to just use one to sweep through the game

  • @timtabutops4611
    @timtabutops4611 Год назад +1

    This video is going to bang.

  • @PikangsFutaba
    @PikangsFutaba Год назад

    One of the funniest things that happened for me when I played Yellow Version for the 1st time, was that both Nidoking and Queen were my MVPs, even against Sabrina (and as you know, those Nidomonarchs have a hard time dealing with Psychic type pokemon like Alakazam, but they managed to hold the line very well that time, I somehow end up using them a lot overall, not always unlike in the past, but still I use them due to how good were for me in those Gen 1 days.

  • @animattions64
    @animattions64 Год назад +1

    Looks like the Nidoking and Nidoqueen at 10:19 are about to 69.

  • @algar6616
    @algar6616 Год назад +1

    I like this series emperor, you’re a smart and kind man

  • @atgosh
    @atgosh Год назад

    This is a really interesting video idea! Glad to see a list completely devoid of Pikachu and Charizard

  • @SS4Luxray
    @SS4Luxray Год назад +1

    Literally every pokemon on thist list deserves more love and attentio. I would've also added Arbok, Parasect, Victreebel, Fearow, Dewgong and Seaking.

  • @patbilek692
    @patbilek692 Год назад +1

    Dodrio in the first three gens with physical tri-attack is so good

  • @Dan55888
    @Dan55888 Год назад +4

    I cannot believe the Nidos did not get a regional form in The CROWN Tundra...
    Nidoking is my favorite and for some reason I really wantes a fairy Type Nidoking for the region that is known for a Monarchy....

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Год назад +3

      Ooh, good point. I mean they were at least found there to be added to the Galar Dex, but they would have been perfect! You know instead of Slowking being the only new variant...

    • @gaoda1581
      @gaoda1581 Год назад +2

      That actually is shocking since their names are the same in Japanese (both the "king" and "crown" tundra). Maybe they're saving them for the next gimmick lol

    • @Watch-0w1
      @Watch-0w1 Год назад +1

      But there no royalty in his design. Seabking and kingdra got more royalty vibe

  • @symphomaniac
    @symphomaniac Год назад +1

    I like Quiver Dance sweeping with Venomoth in SV lol

  • @Buffbud96
    @Buffbud96 Год назад +8

    Please, when you get to gen 4, PLEASE include Lumineon! I never realized how good it was until my Shining Pearl playthrough where it was my ace in the hole for my Cynthia battle!

  • @frankunodostres473
    @frankunodostres473 Год назад +3

    what a brilliant idea!
    makes me think about how cool it would be if pokemon released a "smash ultimate" style game for the milestone gen 10 games. they have to do something special to celebrate hitting double figures right?
    if it gives us a fully available national dex it would be the pkmn game I'd play until the end of time^^

  • @nessleepk
    @nessleepk Год назад +1

    I dont think it ever hit me that the Nidos had unique typing and almost perfect coverage. I knew they had great coverage but 16/18 types is insane to think about

  • @Voidaken
    @Voidaken Год назад

    5:05 Frankly, I kind of do since Gen III since it's one of the few Pokémon who have logical access to Tri Attack.

  • @Voidaken
    @Voidaken Год назад +1

    As for my untouched Gen I favorites, Arbok, Cloyster and Victreebel.

  • @banbanthebandit4002
    @banbanthebandit4002 Год назад

    I like to believe the reason Psyduck hasn’t gotten any special treatment is that they struggle to wrap their head around regional varients or crossgen evolution and we all know how bad those headaches are already. They just want to minimise the harm done to the poor guy.

  • @cir0plus
    @cir0plus Год назад +1

    Gen1 pokemon that have been "untouched" that need a "touch up":
    Fearow- I was so disappointed when I saw Fearow for the first time. I thought Spearow would have some cool looking evo, but nope. A long face, a skinny neck that seems to be broken, and a big body. Maybe a Past-Paradox form. From Moon: "Drawings of a Pokémon resembling Fearow can be seen in murals from deep in ancient history." In Yellow: "A Pokémon that dates back many years. If it senses danger, it flies high and away, instantly." Yet Spearow has no such mention of the past in any dex.
    Dewgong- Such a cute little guy, but give it some new design. Make it more than a cute little seal. Make it the opposite of Walrein. Should've had an Alola variant. In USUM, Seels dex: "It has always been supposed that Seel live only in cold seas. Their having shown up in Alola is a mystery." Dewgong dex makes it seem like it adopted to Alola, "It swims through the ocean at a speed of eight knots, searching for Pokémon that will become its prey. It's especially fond of Wishiwashi." But Wishiwashi isn't intoducted until S/M. In UM its: "It sunbathes on the beach after meals. The rise in its body temperature helps its digestion." Yet every other game it's about staying and loving the cold (even getting "frisky" the colder it is).
    There are others, of course, but I think these are the main two that need some love.

  • @AdminAbuse
    @AdminAbuse Год назад +1

    Tinted lens quiver dance Venomoth is a menace showdown random battles, if you let it set up you have pretty much lost

  • @bradlysteransky2311
    @bradlysteransky2311 Год назад +3

    A ground bug besides nincada would be great tbh

    • @GoinGreninja
      @GoinGreninja Год назад +2

      A Flygon Regional Form is a perfect candidate for that type combination.

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Год назад +4

      Wormadam is rightfully forgotten here!

  • @hondaaccord1399
    @hondaaccord1399 Год назад +1

    Seaking singlefinnedly being the most useful Kanto Water type that doesn't have a gimmick or evolutionary difficulty:

  • @torchilicho
    @torchilicho Год назад +1

    This is a great video topic.

  • @SienAppelsien
    @SienAppelsien Год назад +1

    I hope this will become a series!!

  • @theorycrafters7281
    @theorycrafters7281 Год назад +2

    In my head Canon dodrio's fly in the over world is just them running you from town to town lol

    • @kittensolder8818
      @kittensolder8818 Год назад +4

      They don't need to fly. They just jump REALLY far.

    • @Compucles
      @Compucles Год назад +1

      @@kittensolder8818 That's how Superman used to do it until they realized it was easier to have him fly on film.

  • @bombomb4643
    @bombomb4643 Год назад +1

    you don't need to trade a moon stone to get a early nidoking or nidoqueen as you can get the moon stone in mt moon

  • @valasafantastic1055
    @valasafantastic1055 Год назад +1

    Great list, thanks.

  • @klutchsensei2899
    @klutchsensei2899 Год назад

    I love all these series! Your imagination is sublime I could never think of the half these! Keep it up! Always happy to be an Imperial in the Cubone Empire!

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Год назад

      Thank you! I wasn't sure if this should be a series or not, but there were too many to do all generations in one.

  • @Judgementday3010
    @Judgementday3010 Год назад +1

    Baxcalibur already has its own signature ability and signature move.

  • @bravewater5737
    @bravewater5737 Год назад +2

    3:38 Why isn't Golduck a Psychic type? 🤔

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Год назад +2

      That alone would be enough of an update to help it out a lot!

    • @WildArt0123
      @WildArt0123 Год назад

      Gen 1 already had two Water/Psychic pokemon evolution lines ( Starmie and Slowbro ), I guess GameFreak just didn't want to be repetitive.

    • @bravewater5737
      @bravewater5737 Год назад

      @@WildArt0123 repetitive? Didn't Gen 1 already have 3 Grass/Poison type Pokemon (more if you count pre-evolutions)? It wouldn't hurt to make Golduck a Water/Psychic type.

  • @solgerWhyIsThereAnAtItLooksBad
    @solgerWhyIsThereAnAtItLooksBad Год назад +1

    Venomoth hadnt even been in a regional dex since gen 1 until gen 9

  • @WildArt0123
    @WildArt0123 Год назад +2

    Something tells me that you literally put Hypno in the thumbnail just to get my attention.
    Also I really want GameFreak to give something to Hypno, like a stat buff or even an evolution?

  • @funnycat9962
    @funnycat9962 Год назад

    You gotta give my guy tentacruel some props. Unless convergent Pokémon count, but that’s a whole different guy. That’s a mushroom.

  • @ClefairyFairySnowflake
    @ClefairyFairySnowflake Год назад +1

    The Oddish line is pretty useful, even if they didn't get any special treatment (megas, g-max forms, etc).

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Год назад +2

      Bellossom?

    • @Compucles
      @Compucles Год назад

      @@emperorcubone That's an addition to Gloom, not Vileplume itself.

  • @lightdrgn20
    @lightdrgn20 Год назад +1

    Dragonite is good enough to where it is common enough in VGC right now

  • @sergiomessias3691
    @sergiomessias3691 Год назад

    Starmie, Nidoking and Nidoqueen are very powerful in any game. Great pokemon and I am kinda happy they haven't meddled with them - better like this than risk ruining them

  • @PeterOfAcrossThePokemonWorld
    @PeterOfAcrossThePokemonWorld Год назад

    @Emperor Cubone #6 Venomoth sounds like it would be a good choice for competitive, double battles. Even if better options exist.
    #4 That would be a cool set if you replaced Thrash with Toxic Orb + Facade instead.
    #3 Woah, wait, what!? Are you serious!? You found a shiny Staryu in Poké Paligo?
    #2 Dragonite is a cool Pokémon in VGC right now! It's strong!
    #1 It's great to see one of my most all-time, favorite Pokémon on that place on the list. Nidoking is a really good, offensive Pokémon with Life Orb. But I think it's too slow for my own liking.
    Sorry for the late comment. Keep up the good work, and put out those videos. :)

  • @NinjaPickle
    @NinjaPickle Год назад

    The fact that there's only 19 Evolutionary lines in Kanto that haven't received any sort of new feature (evolutions, pre-evos, Megas, Regional Variants, Gmax forms, Z-moves, etc.) is crazy

  • @sterculesplays3608
    @sterculesplays3608 Год назад

    Love the Nidoking and Dragonite love. 💙 I would love both to get a regional variant someday- but I have to agree that they're both fantastic!

  • @nicolasromani3523
    @nicolasromani3523 Год назад +1

    Nidoqueen/Nidoking are undeniably the best Pokémon for the adventure in Kanto.

  • @demoflower3583
    @demoflower3583 Год назад +1

    starmie is literally my most used mon in ou atm it needs even more love please

  • @Fireash007
    @Fireash007 Год назад +1

    Want untouched gen 2 video now plz ❤

  • @kingofthelurkers9155
    @kingofthelurkers9155 Год назад +1

    Nidoking is still one of my favorites from Gen 1 even after all this time.

  • @boshman11
    @boshman11 Год назад

    shoutout to Vileplume and Victreebel tho! They are quite decent, and very strong / fast on a playthrough

  • @jasontompsett-ince7164
    @jasontompsett-ince7164 Год назад +1

    Agree with all these. Is there any pokemon that need an update and what should it be?

    • @GoinGreninja
      @GoinGreninja Год назад +1

      I'd say Seel and Dewgong since who else likes them or even remembers them? A regional form, a regional evolution, a convergent evolution, literally anything would make them more interesting than they're now.

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Год назад +3

      I'd say Seaking is in the most dire need of an update from all the remaining Gen 1 Pokemon. As for what it could be, I don't know; a Fighting type variant that got buff swimming upstream?

    • @jcohasset23
      @jcohasset23 Год назад

      @@GoinGreninja Dewgong is actually a really good Water/Ice pokemon. The problem it has is that Seel is almost always never available until the equivalent of gym 6 or 7, by which time the player already has a strong Water-type (and most times already has access to Lapras).

  • @sleepi866
    @sleepi866 Год назад

    are you going to do this for gen 2?

  • @gust20xx32
    @gust20xx32 Год назад

    It's niche, but I found Hypno a very good user of Trick Room. Relatively bulky stats, access to Hypnosis (which is 100% accurate if gravity is in effect), can threat damage with Seismic Toss or Foul Play, and the best thing: Inner Focus -- it can't flinch in the turn it uses trick room... which I, by experience, know it's a disastrous thing when it happens.

    • @emperorcubone
      @emperorcubone  Год назад +1

      I've not tried Trick Room, but I did recently use a Hypno in Gold version and it was one of the best members on the team!

    • @gust20xx32
      @gust20xx32 Год назад

      @@emperorcubone Yes! Before Gen 3 EV mechanics, Hypno was far better because it could max out both defenses, HP and a little of its Special Attack too, which made it more like a mix of defense and offensive (while post gen 3 there's little room to invest it in offense). Both in gen 1 and gen 2 Drowzee is found early in the game, which helps a lot too its training during gameplay.
      Trick Room Hypno that I said I've played shined during double and triple battles in casual gen 5 and 6, when flinching was exaggerately common (don't know if still is). Being able to bait opponent's Fake Outs was excellent, hahaha. Few people knew it couldn't flinch.
      (I miss triple battles a lot)

  • @Gspoink
    @Gspoink Год назад +1

    From gameplay standpoint, i would get dragonite like down there lower than venomoth. You like can only really use it in 1-2 major fight without grinding. Venomoth can quiver dance up against the ai so easily and spam nearly unresisted bug buzz and sludge bombs. It's probably better than golduck, Dodrio is pretty debatable though since it can carry midgame with its raw great stats alone. But it definitely has a hard stop at starmie. But since you go over rapid spin on starmie, i will mention competitive too. Venomoth is better than dodrio and golduck, but these two cant really compete since golduck just get nasty plot and we dont know how it will interact just yet.then its starmie who has been falling off in stats department, nidoqueen as a defensive special wall breaker, nidoking as an offensive, and then theres dnite who keep getting better every generation with every generational gimmick benefitting it in some ways.