It would be a lot of work for one ascendancy but hopefully it’s not too far off the cards as I think it could brilliant and make an ascendancy feel very unique
BTW ... I have been half working on a TTRPG game in the background and have done 56 different class designs and 300+ abilities (needs a LOT of simplification/iteration). But your class designs, especially using the PoE mini tree style has got me thinking how cool it would be to have a playable PoE-adjacent TTRPG for downtime between leagues. I wonder if anyone has done that (aside from the card game version at exilecon). It would be super fun.
Yes! As a D&D fan I have been thinking for a while how great it would be to have a PoE TTRPG. Would be a tonne of work but wonder if some of your work might be transferred!? Glad you enjoyed the design mate, thanks for commenting
I really want something like this with transformations for shadow class ascension where you can transform or have like an unknown being inside of you and you get to pick
I also love that you are integrating a lot of the in game lore as concepts for these ascendancies. (Warlock and chieftain so far). Talkativetri also did something like that vaal based monk on the ascendancy battle round 1 Some ideas that you might consider: Warrior or Templar may get something like a "Runeknight" someone who studied kalguuran art and wields its magic to empower their attacks and utelize ward. Abyss could be tied directly to necro A mercenary/shadow ascendancy that previously worked with the immortal syndicate. Huntress ascendancy that trained under the azmeri tribes being able to alternate vivid, primal and wild. Ranger ascendancy based on controlling blighted root, spores and minions, to spread poison and decay. Shadow ascendancy that worships Tangmazu (delirium entity) and uses delirium/insanity/madness themed buffs and abilities to move around and assassinate foes
These are all great ideas mate, I have absolutely been thinking along some similar lines to a couple of these :) keep an eye out, I think you might recognise a few similar thinking moments!
Haha appreciate you mate! fun is the goal definitely though I do try and make them feel semi plausible. I try imagine it like this is v1 of a probably 3 version design process, and then balancing and testing to refine all the kinks out between.
Meanwhile in the GGG meeting.... Random GGG dev: Uhmm Jonathan/Octavian, we running out of ideas on what ascendancy we should do for this class... we must make a really fun one or else the community might riot. Octavian: Oh that's not a problem! Let's just wait for that Sylver guy on youtube to post his stuff and we can just copy paste it! Easy free labour for us!
Hahah I have absolutely no concerns about them having plenty of ideas! I bet the hardest thing is deciding what will open the most opportunities for gameplay and builds
Insane! The customizable faction nodes... so creative! 😯With the difficulty of POE2, minions might be the way... YES to all the Affliction spells !!!! wow
Awesome, glad you felt there was enough there to make the minion playstyle attractive for the ascendancy idea. Never want to make an ascendancy feel like you have to use a a very specific build with it. That affliction node I feel like brings so much to the class and keeps the character of those curses that I loved. Definitely one of my favourites in this one too.
suggestion for the 3rd witch: Witch in the forest, but not the common fairytale witch trope. Rather a witch that uses plants and animals, communes with nature, like a proper Terry Pratchett Witch.
That last Witch spot feels precious now! there's so many roots to go with it. I know a few mechanics I feel it needs to fill but the theme is up in the air rn :) Will add this to the list!
Hmmm I will bare that in mind though it has been deliberate to a degree. I have tried to offer quite a few of the classes a minion option or two and perhaps even a little more especially for the Witch. My thinking is to both increase the minion options available across the board but also try stop there being just 1 or 2 go to minion ascendancies. I tried to mitigate leaning to heavily on minions by making many of the nodes work for minions or if you just are playing solo. For the Warlock for example there are only 2 nodes for minions. The rest work without though may also include minion / ally effects incase. So I tried to make it work for either. The same for Defiler with the Ill Presence top node for example. It could look like a minion node though in fact it works just as well if you were just scaling your own damage without any minions. That's my thinking at least. Hope that might address the concern
@@sylverxyz Not a concern, just a preference of mine :) One aspect of a "witch" fantasy (besides minions, debuffs, etc) I would like to see covered is Alchemy. I always thought concoctions that interact with curses and/or debuffs would fit a Witch pretty well.
what languages/programs did u use to make the ascendancies? are u using AI art or is from an artist? if AI which ones are used and if tis an artist which one, love the art! :D
Hey Kafka I made the interface using Figma and then I create them in there. Most of the art is started using Dall-E and then I photo bash and paint from there :)
I’m no expert though do you mean from a game design or Lore perspective? In regards to the gameplay I imagine most PoE systems to be fairly delicate as they rely on and effect many other systems within the game. Like monster density, monster rarity, unique items, soul gain prevention etc. From the Lore I mean geez just look what happened to the Vaal lol
I’m digging the summoning side top right I’m curious how much of this board we will be able to access like fully get one side then be nice to fit the extended aura off the body in as a little addition dying to min max a char lol
@@sylverxyz basicly what I meant was I’m curious how many points we will have be sick to get the whole demonic summoning tree but then have enough to squeeze in the aoe curse from the character node as well for like a hybrid. Games gonna be super fun and I’m looking forward to min maxing when everything’s revealed
Bruh should just start a gaming company already, these designs need to be brought to life in a real game...........just throw me 1% of all sales ur welcome
Hahah you know what I actually thought this but couldn’t think of a name that fitted the theme better so just went with it :) If you have any suggestions I am all ears.
Hmm feels like there needs to be some feeling there that it is somehow tied to demonic summoning, or bloodmagic, you know like name that invokes dark making usage! Battlemage is a cool archetype though I feel that it doesn't neccesarily represent the kit offered in this one
I approve of this Ascendancy many times over, gg wp
High praise from the Minion Lord himself!
I can definitely see a demon transformation being in the cards. They have only shown us druid transformations so far.
It would be a lot of work for one ascendancy but hopefully it’s not too far off the cards as I think it could brilliant and make an ascendancy feel very unique
I am a sucker for the Warlock archetype. I would play this class nonstop ... looks like tons of fun! Very thematic.
BTW ... I have been half working on a TTRPG game in the background and have done 56 different class designs and 300+ abilities (needs a LOT of simplification/iteration). But your class designs, especially using the PoE mini tree style has got me thinking how cool it would be to have a playable PoE-adjacent TTRPG for downtime between leagues. I wonder if anyone has done that (aside from the card game version at exilecon). It would be super fun.
Yes! As a D&D fan I have been thinking for a while how great it would be to have a PoE TTRPG. Would be a tonne of work but wonder if some of your work might be transferred!?
Glad you enjoyed the design mate, thanks for commenting
yay been looking forward to this
Great review keep it 👍
Please someone tell GGG to hire this guy
Waaay too kind haha cheers for the love though mate
I really want something like this with transformations for shadow class ascension where you can transform or have like an unknown being inside of you and you get to pick
Yeah that was definitely the itch I was trying to scratch with having a choice of demons to follow, like picking your 40k chaos marines haha
I also love that you are integrating a lot of the in game lore as concepts for these ascendancies. (Warlock and chieftain so far). Talkativetri also did something like that vaal based monk on the ascendancy battle round 1
Some ideas that you might consider:
Warrior or Templar may get something like a "Runeknight" someone who studied kalguuran art and wields its magic to empower their attacks and utelize ward.
Abyss could be tied directly to necro
A mercenary/shadow ascendancy that previously worked with the immortal syndicate.
Huntress ascendancy that trained under the azmeri tribes being able to alternate vivid, primal and wild.
Ranger ascendancy based on controlling blighted root, spores and minions, to spread poison and decay.
Shadow ascendancy that worships Tangmazu (delirium entity) and uses delirium/insanity/madness themed buffs and abilities to move around and assassinate foes
These are all great ideas mate, I have absolutely been thinking along some similar lines to a couple of these :) keep an eye out, I think you might recognise a few similar thinking moments!
An abyss necro ascendancy!? Some kind of insectoid skeleton/corpse or just insect combining with the necromancer.. That's look so dopeeeee.
Like I've said before, premium content here!
Thank you mate!
Finally caught up. Really love the series. The art is amazing. The themes and lore are on point. The mechanics are all over the place. So much fun!
Haha appreciate you mate!
fun is the goal definitely though I do try and make them feel semi plausible. I try imagine it like this is v1 of a probably 3 version design process, and then balancing and testing to refine all the kinks out between.
My boy back at it again! This was super clean dude. This may have just beat berserker as my favorite.
Yes! Went a little wild with this one so and they’re so different mechanically so I’m glad you still dig it :)
Holy shit this guy is ROLLING these out, love it
Ha trying mate!
Looking forward to seeing you come up with one soon ;)
this is nuts well done
Those images are stunning. Would make a good wallpaper! Any chance of sharing those?
The plan is to get a discord setup soon and will definitely get some posted in there :)
Meanwhile in the GGG meeting....
Random GGG dev: Uhmm Jonathan/Octavian, we running out of ideas on what ascendancy we should do for this class... we must make a really fun one or else the community might riot.
Octavian: Oh that's not a problem! Let's just wait for that Sylver guy on youtube to post his stuff and we can just copy paste it! Easy free labour for us!
Hahah I have absolutely no concerns about them having plenty of ideas! I bet the hardest thing is deciding what will open the most opportunities for gameplay and builds
Insane! The customizable faction nodes... so creative! 😯With the difficulty of POE2, minions might be the way... YES to all the Affliction spells !!!! wow
Awesome, glad you felt there was enough there to make the minion playstyle attractive for the ascendancy idea. Never want to make an ascendancy feel like you have to use a a very specific build with it.
That affliction node I feel like brings so much to the class and keeps the character of those curses that I loved. Definitely one of my favourites in this one too.
suggestion for the 3rd witch: Witch in the forest, but not the common fairytale witch trope. Rather a witch that uses plants and animals, communes with nature, like a proper Terry Pratchett Witch.
That last Witch spot feels precious now! there's so many roots to go with it. I know a few mechanics I feel it needs to fill but the theme is up in the air rn :)
Will add this to the list!
top of recommended .... YES PLEASE!
Very creative, only nitpick would be that all Witch ascendancies sofar are too heavy on the minion-side.
Hmmm I will bare that in mind though it has been deliberate to a degree.
I have tried to offer quite a few of the classes a minion option or two and perhaps even a little more especially for the Witch.
My thinking is to both increase the minion options available across the board but also try stop there being just 1 or 2 go to minion ascendancies. I tried to mitigate leaning to heavily on minions by making many of the nodes work for minions or if you just are playing solo.
For the Warlock for example there are only 2 nodes for minions. The rest work without though may also include minion / ally effects incase. So I tried to make it work for either.
The same for Defiler with the Ill Presence top node for example. It could look like a minion node though in fact it works just as well if you were just scaling your own damage without any minions. That's my thinking at least. Hope that might address the concern
@@sylverxyz Not a concern, just a preference of mine :)
One aspect of a "witch" fantasy (besides minions, debuffs, etc) I would like to see covered is Alchemy. I always thought concoctions that interact with curses and/or debuffs would fit a Witch pretty well.
awesome stuff! poe2 hype!
Thanks mate! So hyped RN
Cool ideas! Impin ain’t easy.
the graphic design in the nodes is top tier, hopefully they hire you soon.
are u serius this is fan made ??? lit look like real
Super cereal :)
Jesus man , you’re a prodigy.
Hahaha too generous mate. Appreciate the support
40% curse effect would break POE2. They had to nerf curse effect to 5% in POE1 because tempchains+enfeeble is so crippling to bosses
so they nerve the curse gem to give 40% buff with the node?
I fully agree, very very strong, insert relatively strong but appropriate number here haha
what languages/programs did u use to make the ascendancies? are u using AI art or is from an artist? if AI which ones are used and if tis an artist which one, love the art! :D
Hey Kafka
I made the interface using Figma and then I create them in there. Most of the art is started using Dall-E and then I photo bash and paint from there :)
@@sylverxyz amazing dude warlock is one of the best!
Sorry to be off topic - but I need an expert - can VAAL be considered a delicate system with a complex structure?
I’m no expert though do you mean from a game design or Lore perspective? In regards to the gameplay I imagine most PoE systems to be fairly delicate as they rely on and effect many other systems within the game. Like monster density, monster rarity, unique items, soul gain prevention etc.
From the Lore I mean geez just look what happened to the Vaal lol
got so sad when i realised this was "fan made". i was so excited
Ahhh mate sorry! Trying to make it as clear at the beginning of the video as possible
@@sylverxyz You probably did, i'm not that smart
yo can i get this image for my desktop wallpaper shit looks SO GOOD nice vid btw well done
Awesome once I get my discord setup I’ll make them available :)
Lets gooo
I’m digging the summoning side top right I’m curious how much of this board we will be able to access like fully get one side then be nice to fit the extended aura off the body in as a little addition dying to min max a char lol
If I am reading this wright the idea with the too transformation and faction nodes is that you can only select one of them from taking the node
@@sylverxyz basicly what I meant was I’m curious how many points we will have be sick to get the whole demonic summoning tree but then have enough to squeeze in the aoe curse from the character node as well for like a hybrid. Games gonna be super fun and I’m looking forward to min maxing when everything’s revealed
Bruh should just start a gaming company already, these designs need to be brought to life in a real game...........just throw me 1% of all sales ur welcome
Haha John you’re crazy.
And I like it!
I will only play one ascendancy if yours where reel... This one. I like so much of the dark Art.
The best compliment I could receive :) thanks mate!
i really love minion i hope you can make sentinel acendency idea like templar minion man.
witch ascendancy its more obvious of all :
Necromancer
Occultist
Osteomancer
Hah osteomancer is too comical! I love it
This is my favorite so far but I feel like I’d play a male character cuz I don’t like playing a girl just cuz I like to role play kinda thing
That’s some deeep commitment to the RP in ARPG, fair
niice
ye one problem you might not know this but a warlock is a male witch
Hahah you know what I actually thought this but couldn’t think of a name that fitted the theme better so just went with it :) If you have any suggestions I am all ears.
@@sylverxyz How about this naming yk in games like sacred there is a battle mage how about a battle witch?
Hmm feels like there needs to be some feeling there that it is somehow tied to demonic summoning, or bloodmagic, you know like name that invokes dark making usage! Battlemage is a cool archetype though I feel that it doesn't neccesarily represent the kit offered in this one
@@sylverxyz yk blood witch in latin would be sanguis maga and or tenebris is latin for dark but ye you got me just got a thought though, Daemonista