Innocents is a strong word, man. They had molotovs, bro. Tried as they might have to make us hate JD and embrace the idea of Kait being the new protagonist, they just made JD actually interesting. They gave him depth. They actually made him a decent protagonist, and then they put him to the side. It's bonkers, he and Fahz are like the only two characters with any emotion
@@ODST_Bailey Wtf is wrong with you? Civillian protestors with molotovs aren’t a threat to soldiers with high-end military equipment. You have to be an idiot or a fascist to believe killing rioters is a good idea. That shit is literally how you end up with domestic terrorism.
@@ferghalicious1480 yes because breaking a bottle of flaming liquid on a soldier with high grade military equipment won’t do anything to them? The high grade military equipment puts out flaming liquid on its own now. I love watching boys like you turn videos about video games into your shit opinions. Show me the high grade military gear that doesn’t catch fire from molotovs and maybe I won’t consider you as stupid as you present yourself.
Why did they portray JD as bad? If what Fahz said was true, JD had the right to open fire at them, it’s no like he pulled off a Tiananmen on innocent civvies
The drones also have stun ammunition. He could’ve done that instead. But he could’ve panicked. Besides, we don’t know how far the drones went before the confrontation ended. Bystanders and peaceful protesters could’ve been killed too.
The writers fumbled the bag, big. And they know it, they don't how to continue their version of the Sequel Trilogy, so they're just doing a prequel instead.
I never liked the way they portrayed JD’s decisions. He’s constantly being put in situations where there’s no clear cut “correct” or “right” outcome. The protest became violent, what the hell was he supposed to do? Let incendiaries be thrown and endanger people he’s in charge of? The swarm are baring down on his squad and a SHITLOAD of civilians, WHAT WAS HE SUPPOSED TO DO? It was either guarantee their deaths by not firing the hammer, or take the best chance he had at getting everyone out alive. I don’t blame him for hiding the truth from his friends. He would have to live with the people he killed no matter what he did.
I actually kind of like the character arc they did for JD. He was pretty boring and typical male protagonist type in Gears 4. Having this baggage made him interesting. Added more depth to the story than Gears usually has.
In Gears 4, JD was bland and boring. In the first act of Gears 5, knowing what he had done, Marcus telling him to ''Stop showing off, you're gonna get yourself or someone killed'' and does that Hammer of Dawn shit got me so excited for his character arc. And then the game cuts you to Kait. Not that he's the worst character, i do think her ''connection'' to the Hive is a little bit forced and i would much prefer seeying JD's point of view of the story, but the new characters are better than in the last game. Except that Del is just there and doesn't add much
i loved gears 5 but this entire shitshow was nothing but forced drama to make JD hated to push Kait as the main character should have had two arching stories not just kaits.
If we're really gonna talk about forced, let's talk about the Fahzy bear in the corner.. "Stfu Fahz" was the line I was waiting to hear the whole time throughout the game
Too be honest tho fahz was talking to someone who had more authority over him so it goes like shut the fuck up fahz never speak to sargeant like that lol never argue with someone who has seen shit lost friends to it
In my opinion, if they wanted to have Kait as the primary character then they should have made a game based around her kind of like what they did with Baird in Judgement, and call it something like "Gears of War: Bloodline" or something title that alludes to the plot of the story.
JD was boring, but then his character becomes interesting and then they give us a character literally nobody cared for and everybody would rather have be the new villain tbh
I just bought this game and everything seems to be going well until chapter II I don't know but they way the game's story tries to paint J.D in a bad picture seems so forced and how Del and Kait suddenly just hated the guy without even trying to talk or reason with him during that chapter after all they have been through just because Fahz said so is some bullshit story telling to me..
It’s not forced. It was foreshadowed multiple times in that chapter that JD was hiding something concerning that incident. Kait and Del didn’t hate him they were confused and angry. And rightly so because this whole time he openly denounced the incident but was the one to kickstart it. To add insult to injury they had to learn the truth from an antisocial ego maniac like Fahz instead of the friend they placed all their trust. They felt betrayed. They didn’t get a chance to talk because more swarm and swarmaks were coming and for 4 months he pushed them away and became cold.
@@joshuawillis602well in a way kait hide something which is more important because it involves humanity fate and then when oscar die then she want to say it
@@joshuawillis602 but still she should had side something when they keep asking her because you can't keep saying it's nothing when it's something just say what it is and everything will be okay
Reason they needed to keep JD as the leading protagonist. Its okay to dislike the character but the evolution and highlight was stripped away by gears 5. He is still in the middle of a change but he was sidelined too quickly and make him seem like not ever going to live up to the Fenix name. Put him in the lead again on 6 and further his redemption arc. I dont think 4 and 5 did any justice for the new characters. Kait had no redeeming qualities either from start to finish so she ended up as an insert. She being related to the queen was an excuse to put her on the forefront but she was deadpan and left JD in the dust.
Kait is such an ass but I get why but damn give JD some rest. Mistakes were made. They're in a war get over it and deal with the swarm. Honestly, I like JD's character more than Kate's.
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Innocents is a strong word, man. They had molotovs, bro. Tried as they might have to make us hate JD and embrace the idea of Kait being the new protagonist, they just made JD actually interesting. They gave him depth. They actually made him a decent protagonist, and then they put him to the side. It's bonkers, he and Fahz are like the only two characters with any emotion
You are wrong
Wrong is a strong word, man
@@VideoGameSophistry mate, if 'innocents' are throwing molotovs at COG soldiers, that makes them a terrorist threat/riot
@@ODST_Bailey Wtf is wrong with you? Civillian protestors with molotovs aren’t a threat to soldiers with high-end military equipment. You have to be an idiot or a fascist to believe killing rioters is a good idea. That shit is literally how you end up with domestic terrorism.
@@ferghalicious1480 yes because breaking a bottle of flaming liquid on a soldier with high grade military equipment won’t do anything to them? The high grade military equipment puts out flaming liquid on its own now. I love watching boys like you turn videos about video games into your shit opinions. Show me the high grade military gear that doesn’t catch fire from molotovs and maybe I won’t consider you as stupid as you present yourself.
After watching this I’m convinced kait is the only one here ironically who needs learn to shut up and listen
Why did they portray JD as bad? If what Fahz said was true, JD had the right to open fire at them, it’s no like he pulled off a Tiananmen on innocent civvies
The drones also have stun ammunition. He could’ve done that instead. But he could’ve panicked.
Besides, we don’t know how far the drones went before the confrontation ended. Bystanders and peaceful protesters could’ve been killed too.
The only way they can make kait look good is make everyone around her look like shit...
Comparatively speaking it might’ve been. He could’ve over-reacted.
@@warboss346I think it was more of the fact that he didn't tell them.
Though I don't know, I could be wrong.
The writers fumbled the bag, big.
And they know it, they don't how to continue their version of the Sequel Trilogy, so they're just doing a prequel instead.
I never liked the way they portrayed JD’s decisions. He’s constantly being put in situations where there’s no clear cut “correct” or “right” outcome. The protest became violent, what the hell was he supposed to do? Let incendiaries be thrown and endanger people he’s in charge of? The swarm are baring down on his squad and a SHITLOAD of civilians, WHAT WAS HE SUPPOSED TO DO? It was either guarantee their deaths by not firing the hammer, or take the best chance he had at getting everyone out alive.
I don’t blame him for hiding the truth from his friends. He would have to live with the people he killed no matter what he did.
Still, not telling them indicates he didn’t trust them enough.
@@BrowncoatGofAZ Would you have even if you trusted them
@@b1gbreezzzy718 idk.
Anyway I like how they redeemed him in this act.
@@BrowncoatGofAZHe did some wrong with not telling them the secret but with everything else it was justified.
I actually kind of like the character arc they did for JD. He was pretty boring and typical male protagonist type in Gears 4. Having this baggage made him interesting. Added more depth to the story than Gears usually has.
Kind of shitty though that they reduced him to a side character, that and treating him like shit for the majority of the game.
@@Lajos_Kelemenexactly
In Gears 4, JD was bland and boring. In the first act of Gears 5, knowing what he had done, Marcus telling him to ''Stop showing off, you're gonna get yourself or someone killed'' and does that Hammer of Dawn shit got me so excited for his character arc.
And then the game cuts you to Kait. Not that he's the worst character, i do think her ''connection'' to the Hive is a little bit forced and i would much prefer seeying JD's point of view of the story, but the new characters are better than in the last game. Except that Del is just there and doesn't add much
Del is strictly there as player 2. Thats about it lol. Otherwise it would just be kait talking to jack.
JD should have been the protagonist.
i loved gears 5 but this entire shitshow was nothing but forced drama to make JD hated to push Kait as the main character should have had two arching stories not just kaits.
If we're really gonna talk about forced, let's talk about the Fahzy bear in the corner.. "Stfu Fahz" was the line I was waiting to hear the whole time throughout the game
Too be honest tho fahz was talking to someone who had more authority over him so it goes like shut the fuck up fahz never speak to sargeant like that lol never argue with someone who has seen shit lost friends to it
Agreed
Garbage take
In my opinion, if they wanted to have Kait as the primary character then they should have made a game based around her kind of like what they did with Baird in Judgement, and call it something like "Gears of War: Bloodline" or something title that alludes to the plot of the story.
JD was boring, but then his character becomes interesting and then they give us a character literally nobody cared for and everybody would rather have be the new villain tbh
This whole incident with the protestors just feel like it came out of nowhere. Did that incident happen anywhere off-games?
Before Gears 4. It was the reason JD and Del defected from COG.
0:39 Okay because I’m here to help if you’ll have me 1:10 And let me guess he’s here to pitch in too? 2:27 So who showed up today?
I wonder what would happen if she completely rejected his help and jd never came along.
Then you'd be stuck with only Del as your help
@@Ice-tc5vnand that would be bad because we won't get to see funny fahz
I just bought this game and everything seems to be going well until chapter II I don't know but they way the game's story tries to paint J.D in a bad picture seems so forced and how Del and Kait suddenly just hated the guy without even trying to talk or reason with him during that chapter after all they have been through just because Fahz said so is some bullshit story telling to me..
It’s not forced. It was foreshadowed multiple times in that chapter that JD was hiding something concerning that incident. Kait and Del didn’t hate him they were confused and angry. And rightly so because this whole time he openly denounced the incident but was the one to kickstart it. To add insult to injury they had to learn the truth from an antisocial ego maniac like Fahz instead of the friend they placed all their trust. They felt betrayed. They didn’t get a chance to talk because more swarm and swarmaks were coming and for 4 months he pushed them away and became cold.
@@joshuawillis602well in a way kait hide something which is more important because it involves humanity fate and then when oscar die then she want to say it
@@joshuawillis602also jd probably regret what he did but just didn't want anyone to know
@@joelramnarine Kait herself wasn’t even sure about her secret. But once she found out she revealed her secret. JD never revealed his secret himself
@@joshuawillis602 but still she should had side something when they keep asking her because you can't keep saying it's nothing when it's something just say what it is and everything will be okay
Reason they needed to keep JD as the leading protagonist. Its okay to dislike the character but the evolution and highlight was stripped away by gears 5. He is still in the middle of a change but he was sidelined too quickly and make him seem like not ever going to live up to the Fenix name. Put him in the lead again on 6 and further his redemption arc. I dont think 4 and 5 did any justice for the new characters. Kait had no redeeming qualities either from start to finish so she ended up as an insert. She being related to the queen was an excuse to put her on the forefront but she was deadpan and left JD in the dust.
Poor writing led to issues with JD’s character.
Kait is such an ass but I get why but damn give JD some rest. Mistakes were made. They're in a war get over it and deal with the swarm. Honestly, I like JD's character more than Kate's.
I was looking for this one 😁
Replaying gow1. It's just killing bad guys, no idiotic drama
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