Great stuff, Keith! I learn so much! I repair clocks and regularly work these sizes, with drill breakage that is common. I would face off the end just up to the broken bit and then grab it with a fine pliers. Then I grab a new bit!! Thanks for your great work!
Great job Keith. Hope the Oiler lasts a real long time my friend. Great project for others that would like to do something like this to their lathe. Glad to see you finding the time to get this going, been waiting for you to open that box, LOL.
awesome!!!! this has been a fabulous build... what great workmanship, what a dream... glad you are back and doing good... work it out, the only way to get back
One of the big guys playing with little tubes? Loving it... I'm looking forward to see you squeezing out the last 10th on that upcoming shaft... looks interesting and challenging. Nice to see you back on your feet... seems to work... you are back in action. Thank you Keith!
Absolutely fascinating and educational, just like a good book, I can barely wait to turn the page for the next instalment.....10/10. Regards. Rich.....UK.
Glad to see that I am not the only one who breaks small center drills like this. Carbide spotting drills for critical/almost finished parts for me. If they were not so expensive I would use them 100% of the time.
Refreshing and therapy to see you back Keith! ^^ Heh, thanks much for including the snapped off center drill at 38 minutes. The dad and I have broke so many tiny drills, we now hate breaking them out for any reason! xD
I bet that you forgot all about your toe while focusing on this project. Machine shop therapy; maybe you can write a book. This is a great set of videos and it is fun to see you back in the shop with a smile. Don't work too hard, they won't pay you any faster. Take care and Getter Done.
HA, when you said "Finest Kind" it really took me back...you took me back to the days when I worked on the ocean everyday aboard the "Finest Kind" on Maui, and all of the awesome fish we landed. Such a great time, with great people(mostly), and a great location...the deep blue sea.
That little Rutland is getting the royal treatment. I smell a DRO in your Clausings future. Once you have a DRO, it feels like the dark ages when you don't have one. It really speeds up production on a manual lathe.
Hi Keith, Glad you're back and on the mend. I'm setting up a used 14X40 enco lathe and have really enjoyed your lathe set up videos. Keep it up! Thanks !
Hi Keith, please check the 1/16 bit you had in the Bridgeport to make sure the cutting tip is still there, because at 37:45 of this video it looked like your drill bit was shorter or maybe the bit push up into the chuck. After seeing that center drill break, anything is possible. It's great to see you back in the shop again.
Keith, Thank you so much for these series on the Rutland lathe. They have been such a help being that I have just squired the chinese copy of this lathe (enco). I have been so inspired. Just getting into the machining thing as a hobby and your videos have helped to rekindle that fire.
Glad you are back on deck Keith. Nice job on the lathe resto. Next time I'm in the US, I would love to have a 'Tradie Talk' with you, I know plenty of Aussies that would love to hear about your early days in the trade. Keep up the awesome content, absolutely love your work! Cheers Max
I have one of those little tubing benders also, found it online for $8.00 and works excellent on brake lines as well, really get your moneys worth - I was surprised how well made it was expecially at the pivot, nice and tight no slop.
I could see WHY the center-tap broke...it lifted for 1, and just closing your eyes, listening (regardless of speed really, my interpretation was it may have been a few hundred high). Tails not fully inline is what helped cause the breakage, and if you look close, it is apparent that is a contribution to the breakage. It's known, sometimes can get in a hurry, but yet again, a simple ''Another set of eyes..." thing can help. If the tails out of line, no matter where, you see it move perceptibly, then it's going to have a higher potential of breakage, plain and simple. The main thing as well to remember is: smaller the work, sometimes a little time helps more with softer metals...pecking the start helps and taking tiny bites (especially on copper doing it dry...some classes of aluminum it's similar however, but whole new game there if you think about it ((not goin there either, if your a machinist, then you understand)) ).I'm no professional machinist..professionals throughout their careers can understand as well that if get in a hurry, some things can be missed, whether it be because of angles viewed, a simple step missed, etc...mistakes can and do happen. Miss-alignments given we run machines hard and fast these days at a home shop to simply keep up can and do happen, but also remember, when seeing the runout at first (if seen the previous videos of this particular series), it STARTED at about 0.001 if I remember right in the piece showing the alignment of the tailstock...so yes, it happens, and usually not a real problem that happens consistently either, but can and does. I ask simply...don't start flaming because of a very simple mistake, for I'm very sure IF your a machinist making that comment, you have as well, done that very same mistake as I have myself. Some may bore you to death on explanation, and others take it in stride, but remember, it's HIS WAY to define and be sure that what he's showing us is a good and proven way that can work, for there are MANY ways to align, make parts etc. (now lets see who has patience in the above)Mistakes happen...it's a given. No matter whether you been machining parts for a day or 50 years...it can and will happen. Deny that then there might, just MIGHT, be a possibility that there is an ability to learn that is degraded or some other problem. Now..want to fflame Kieth for simple mistakes, then look at yourself first...then maby you have right to. I don't...I've made that mistake before, and I'm sure I very well may as well in the future.Look at the content...can do better, then do it...learn from it and see potential mistakes made, but give credit where it's due...atleast he has no fear to to post it, and I personally give him credit for it as well.
This is where a 90˚ spotting drill beats a center drill. A case can be made that the final drill will find its center better in a 90˚ conical depression than in a cylinder of smaller size from a smaller center drill or in the 118˚ bottom of a slightly larger center drill. It can also make the chamfer by cutting a bit deeper until the chamfer diameter is just bigger than the intended hole. And no chance of snapping off the tip. That is a seriously beautiful installation of those one-shot lines. It's one thing to take that much trouble to lay things out precisely when you expect to make hundreds or thousands of a machine, but to do that for a one-off takes dedication to the ideal - or as Tom Lipton put it: Style Points.
Glad your back and doing well! Thanks for the the lathe series on the Rutland! Have a lione lathe I would like to do to it what you have done! Appreciate what you do and how you do it! Thanks
Great demonstration of your commitment of detail & CRAFTSMANship; likely "others" might have defaulted to some sort of polymeric tubing together with 'viton' fittings..... You seem to be in TOP spirits....., and let's hope it is contagious. Still take care let yourself heal.....permanently!!!
Nice to see you still break drills in copper, makes me feel more competent. ;-) One time I just gave up the fight trying to cut a deep M3 thread in copper and soldered in a brass plug and tapped that.
Still drooling :-) Its such a nice "plumbing" job you did there, I would really start crying, if I watch it break down in a future video from you. Please find some suitable flexible sheathing to protect the soft tubing where it is exposed outside the channeling. Some thin stainless hosing or nylon wrapping or even heat shrink tubing.
Love the uber-neat routing and fitment of the oiler lines. So good to see ya back in the shop, there was a very disturbing void in the youtube space time continueum while you were out-lol
Nice looking oiling system. The trouble with a gang lubrication system is that more of the lubricant will go to the fitting with the least resistance and some fittings may not get any at all!.
Starting to look darn close to perfect :) Skoda make some incredible machines. Lathe that will take 30 meter stock ? No problem. The operator will ride on the sadle in it's own house :) How I have said : The lathe is not big until it have a house on the sadle with a coffe machine :)
How about a shop tour. Be nice see & learn all about the various equipment you have hidden. I think most of us might think that you could use a larger shop.
you also have a china tool holder on the tool post , Nothing wrong with those Keith .. That is all I own to date and they work perfect ! China is stepping up there quality these days on a lot of there goods . I think they hear us say "CHEAP CHINA " to much ! LOl.. great job on the oil system man , That is going to be a great lathe when yur done ! Should last for many years .. Thumbs up Keith ..
Hi Keith, at the risk of sounding pedantic, that 5x4 taper fitting brand name is pronounced Skoda as in soda with a k they make a pretty good car these days too. Keep up the good work, we all enjoy it.
Keith, so great to see you back in the shop. l love this Rutland project. Can you say what the flex tubing material is that you've used for the oiler lines - is it PVC, poly, PTFE, etc.? Thanks.
I can't get past how small the lathe is from what I normally see you behind. I have a 1340, new and big to me, not Abom approved. Hacksaw, bench vise, hey it's Doubleboost. Silver solder, Keith Appleton or Myfordboy.
Looks great, but no oil feed to the cross slide ways? I'm also wondering if you might want a restrictor on the lead screw oil feed, so the ways see some oil pressure and most of the oil shot doesn't just get dumped on the screw.
Keith, I love your videos. Thanks for posting them. Say, did the docs have you on hydrocodone? You sure seem more wired and shaky than normal. That stuff screws me up royally! I hope you're healing up well. Keep the vids coming!
Nice project to watch. Thanks! At 37:54 that drill bit broke off in the part...did you get it out? Or maybe it broke as it was exiting the part and flew off to the side. Not sure after watching it again. The drill bit definitely got shorter though.
Skoda is name of guy frpm 1900+. There are several Skoda companies in Czech rep. Skoda Plzen is big and heavy industry. There are several more companies Skoda, one of them is Skoda Auto, which is part of VW. The Skoda making tools was big between wars, during WWII they were making guns etc for the nazis.
Hey Keith why didn't you use bijor metering valves for this job they are a check valve so the oil will not drain back and only open with a slight pressure and metors the amount of oil your getting ? Also after this job would you think about doing this to your bigger lathe ??
Keith, thanks for the honesty at the beginning of the vid. No BS, no excuses, just walking the walk. Very classy. All-pro.
Hi Keith,you are so happy to be back in the shop.It shows in your videos. Your chickens are therapy for us too.
What a great rebuild on the Rutland and an equally detailed project to test it on. Looking forward to it Keith. Thank you.
Great stuff, Keith! I learn so much! I repair clocks and regularly work these sizes, with drill breakage that is common. I would face off the end just up to the broken bit and then grab it with a fine pliers.
Then I grab a new bit!! Thanks for your great work!
Great job Keith. Hope the Oiler lasts a real long time my friend. Great project for others that would like to do something like this to their lathe. Glad to see you finding the time to get this going, been waiting for you to open that box, LOL.
awesome!!!! this has been a fabulous build... what great workmanship, what a dream... glad you are back and doing good... work it out, the only way to get back
glad you're back, happy to get my Fenner fix again. great work as always
One of the big guys playing with little tubes? Loving it... I'm looking forward to see you squeezing out the last 10th on that upcoming shaft... looks interesting and challenging. Nice to see you back on your feet... seems to work... you are back in action. Thank you Keith!
boy the look on your face at the end says it all. it looks like the shop therapy is working . good to have you back
Absolutely fascinating and educational, just like a good book, I can barely wait to turn the page for the next instalment.....10/10.
Regards.
Rich.....UK.
Glad to see that I am not the only one who breaks small center drills like this. Carbide spotting drills for critical/almost finished parts for me. If they were not so expensive I would use them 100% of the time.
Thanks Keith, the world is a better place because of what you do.
Refreshing and therapy to see you back Keith! ^^ Heh, thanks much for including the snapped off center drill at 38 minutes. The dad and I have broke so many tiny drills, we now hate breaking them out for any reason! xD
Great session today Keith. Thank you, I'm feeling better.... And hope you are too. Looking forward to next appointment.
I love these videos! Thanks Keith. The Rutland turned out great.
I bet that you forgot all about your toe while focusing on this project. Machine shop therapy; maybe you can write a book. This is a great set of videos and it is fun to see you back in the shop with a smile. Don't work too hard, they won't pay you any faster. Take care and Getter Done.
Outstanding Keith Job well done! I am glad to see you back!
Looking towards this next job.
The shaft to come is greatly anticipated! Great work on the Rutland Sir Fenner!
HA, when you said "Finest Kind" it really took me back...you took me back to the days when I worked on the ocean everyday aboard the "Finest Kind" on Maui, and all of the awesome fish we landed. Such a great time, with great people(mostly), and a great location...the deep blue sea.
That little Rutland is getting the royal treatment. I smell a DRO in your Clausings future. Once you have a DRO, it feels like the dark ages when you don't have one. It really speeds up production on a manual lathe.
Hey Keith, looks like the time off did your manicure a lot of good. Love your work.
Hi Keith, Glad you're back and on the mend. I'm setting up a used 14X40 enco lathe and have really enjoyed your lathe set up videos. Keep it up! Thanks !
Nice work there on the lathe Keith, looking forward to seeing the axle build.
Keith what a great job you have done on that lathe, it shows that a Master has tuned on it.
Glad you are back . May you continue to mend .
God bless
Wyr
Thanks for explaining the use of tools like the little ball end hole gage that I have not had a chance to acquire and use.
Hi Keith, please check the 1/16 bit you had in the Bridgeport to make sure the cutting tip is still there, because at 37:45 of this video it looked like your drill bit was shorter or maybe the bit push up into the chuck. After seeing that center drill break, anything is possible. It's great to see you back in the shop again.
Keith,
Thank you so much for these series on the Rutland lathe. They have been such a help being that I have just squired the chinese copy of this lathe (enco). I have been so inspired. Just getting into the machining thing as a hobby and your videos have helped to rekindle that fire.
Very nice project, thanks for showing and sharing. The method to connect the copper tubing might come handy to me in the near future.
The little bushing that you pushed into the tubing is called a Thimble... Fun lathe stuff as always.
Glad you are back on deck Keith. Nice job on the lathe resto. Next time I'm in the US, I would love to have a 'Tradie Talk' with you, I know plenty of Aussies that would love to hear about your early days in the trade. Keep up the awesome content, absolutely love your work! Cheers Max
Another wicked vid Keith, glad to have u back. Looking forward to that shaft job, great project for u and that gorgeous lathe u got there now.👍
Dead nuts on the collet draw bar. Impressive. Also, I'm jeaaaaalous of both that Skoda MT and the Rohm. Damn quality gear, my friend
I have one of those little tubing benders also, found it online for $8.00 and works excellent on brake lines as well, really get your moneys worth - I was surprised how well made it was expecially at the pivot, nice and tight no slop.
Thanks Keith. Looks like you're happy to be back. We all missed you.
Impressive, thanks for your time and efforts Keith! Keep em coming.
I wondered if this would be a manual or automatic oiler and you waited until end. You could be a mystery writer! Thank you for this lesson.
lever 5c, dro, aaaand one shot lube that's awesome and your rooster seems like a nice guy. a man who has everything
I could see WHY the center-tap broke...it lifted for 1, and just closing your eyes, listening (regardless of speed really, my interpretation was it may have been a few hundred high). Tails not fully inline is what helped cause the breakage, and if you look close, it is apparent that is a contribution to the breakage. It's known, sometimes can get in a hurry, but yet again, a simple ''Another set of eyes..." thing can help. If the tails out of line, no matter where, you see it move perceptibly, then it's going to have a higher potential of breakage, plain and simple. The main thing as well to remember is: smaller the work, sometimes a little time helps more with softer metals...pecking the start helps and taking tiny bites (especially on copper doing it dry...some classes of aluminum it's similar however, but whole new game there if you think about it ((not goin there either, if your a machinist, then you understand)) ).I'm no professional machinist..professionals throughout their careers can understand as well that if get in a hurry, some things can be missed, whether it be because of angles viewed, a simple step missed, etc...mistakes can and do happen. Miss-alignments given we run machines hard and fast these days at a home shop to simply keep up can and do happen, but also remember, when seeing the runout at first (if seen the previous videos of this particular series), it STARTED at about 0.001 if I remember right in the piece showing the alignment of the tailstock...so yes, it happens, and usually not a real problem that happens consistently either, but can and does. I ask simply...don't start flaming because of a very simple mistake, for I'm very sure IF your a machinist making that comment, you have as well, done that very same mistake as I have myself. Some may bore you to death on explanation, and others take it in stride, but remember, it's HIS WAY to define and be sure that what he's showing us is a good and proven way that can work, for there are MANY ways to align, make parts etc. (now lets see who has patience in the above)Mistakes happen...it's a given. No matter whether you been machining parts for a day or 50 years...it can and will happen. Deny that then there might, just MIGHT, be a possibility that there is an ability to learn that is degraded or some other problem. Now..want to fflame Kieth for simple mistakes, then look at yourself first...then maby you have right to. I don't...I've made that mistake before, and I'm sure I very well may as well in the future.Look at the content...can do better, then do it...learn from it and see potential mistakes made, but give credit where it's due...atleast he has no fear to to post it, and I personally give him credit for it as well.
Keith, Wonderful craftsmanship as usual! And it looks like you are having more fun than the law allows!! LOL
Eric
Looks like the dro is working great, good upgrade oiling system, you did fine job on it.
LOVE the 5C collet arrangement
This is where a 90˚ spotting drill beats a center drill. A case can be made that the final drill will find its center better in a 90˚ conical depression than in a cylinder of smaller size from a smaller center drill or in the 118˚ bottom of a slightly larger center drill. It can also make the chamfer by cutting a bit deeper until the chamfer diameter is just bigger than the intended hole. And no chance of snapping off the tip.
That is a seriously beautiful installation of those one-shot lines. It's one thing to take that much trouble to lay things out precisely when you expect to make hundreds or thousands of a machine, but to do that for a one-off takes dedication to the ideal - or as Tom Lipton put it: Style Points.
Glad your back and doing well! Thanks for the the lathe series on the Rutland! Have a lione lathe I would like to do to it what you have done! Appreciate what you do and how you do it! Thanks
I like those oil chooch pipes, got a rustic steam train look about them, in line with its intended use too, nice touch.
I have learned a lot from you Keith. Thank You
Great demonstration of your commitment of detail & CRAFTSMANship; likely "others" might have defaulted to some sort of polymeric tubing together with 'viton' fittings..... You seem to be in TOP spirits....., and let's hope it is contagious. Still take care let yourself heal.....permanently!!!
awesome keith glad to see you back in the shop
missed you allot i guess we all have so welcome home
Nice to see you still break drills in copper, makes me feel more competent. ;-)
One time I just gave up the fight trying to cut a deep M3 thread in copper and soldered in a brass plug and tapped that.
Another great video, thanks for sharing.
Super satisfying to watch this, great work as always Keith. I spotted the Skoda logo as I drive a Skoda car here in the UK. :o)
Going to be impressive to see all those shaft features done on the Rutland lathe! :-)
Still drooling :-)
Its such a nice "plumbing" job you did there, I would really start crying, if I watch it break down in a future video from you.
Please find some suitable flexible sheathing to protect the soft tubing where it is exposed outside the channeling.
Some thin stainless hosing or nylon wrapping or even heat shrink tubing.
With my back killing me today, your still an inspiration! Awesome job there buddy!!Razor!
Love the broken center drill. Ooops.
Love the uber-neat routing and fitment of the oiler lines. So good to see ya back in the shop, there was a very disturbing void in the youtube space time continueum while you were out-lol
fantastic to watch the copper work, keen to add one touch lubrication to my AL960B lathe project
Now you can live with it, looks good
That tubing looks damn sexy there. Keith! Looking forward to seeing those lines filled with oil. Love the craftsmanship brother!
Dang. I might keep an eye out for a Rutland..!!!
This is not just a Rutland ...
It is a Keit Fenner tuned Rutland, you wont find such fine machinery elsewhere :-)
Simply marvelous!
Nice looking oiling system. The trouble with a gang lubrication system is that more of the lubricant will go to the fitting with the least resistance and some fittings may not get any at all!.
Not now! ;{)------
The solution seems SO SIMPLE..yet i would have never come up with the concept or the process in the first place.
Great video. Don't worry about the length the more detailed information the better.
keith great video, looks like the foot is working good.
Starting to look darn close to perfect :) Skoda make some incredible machines. Lathe that will take 30 meter stock ? No problem. The operator will ride on the sadle in it's own house :) How I have said : The lathe is not big until it have a house on the sadle with a coffe machine :)
Good lock finding the drill that blew off the mill vice.
This is so neat, even cute !
What a nice job you did there :-)
Thanks for the great video.
The ČSN 22 3324 is the norm for the live centers etc.
max circumstance runout 0.005 mm (5 microns)
max load 400 kg
top angle 60 deg
rpm 5 000
You were talking about tools purchased outside the US. I'd already had a giggle at about the 1:54 mark though.
Keith, at 37:54 the tip of the drill bit breaks off in the first hole you open up. I guess that is why it is not recommended practice at home ;-)
How about a shop tour. Be nice see & learn all about the various equipment you have hidden. I think most of us might think that you could use a larger shop.
you also have a china tool holder on the tool post , Nothing wrong with those Keith .. That is all I own to date and they work perfect ! China is stepping up there quality these days on a lot of there goods . I think they hear us say "CHEAP CHINA " to much ! LOl.. great job on the oil system man , That is going to be a great lathe when yur done ! Should last for many years .. Thumbs up Keith ..
Hi Keith, at the risk of sounding pedantic, that 5x4 taper fitting brand name is pronounced Skoda as in soda with a k they make a pretty good car these days too. Keep up the good work, we all enjoy it.
Glad your back
A Metric drawing made 625 over all length interesting to compute.
Thanks for the video.
Very clean install, got to love it. I was thinking stainless tubing might be a bit better up on top of the compound, some of us drop stuff.
You notice it's right next to the DRO to help him remember not to drop anything. LOL
Thanks Dennis, You Rock !
Real nice job on the oiler. :-)
Keith, so great to see you back in the shop. l love this Rutland project. Can you say what the flex tubing material is that you've used for the oiler lines - is it PVC, poly, PTFE, etc.? Thanks.
In my earlier videos planning the oil system I give the particulars on that tubing I found in Mc Master Carr book. ;{)-----
Greetings from your Czech Republic fan (me) ! :D
waiting for the next video thank you
I can't get past how small the lathe is from what I normally see you behind. I have a 1340, new and big to me, not Abom approved.
Hacksaw, bench vise, hey it's Doubleboost.
Silver solder, Keith Appleton or Myfordboy.
10:30 I wonder if you might have been able to retrieve that broken drill tip using a magnet.
It was galled in .;{)------
not to be rude but it is impressive how you make such small delicate parts with such large macheanes
Nice mod Keith, good content.
That copper pipe on the compound may look pretty now. But when you drop something on it, it might easily be squeezed shut permanently.
rol eic EXACTLY!
Looks great, but no oil feed to the cross slide ways? I'm also wondering if you might want a restrictor on the lead screw oil feed, so the ways see some oil pressure and most of the oil shot doesn't just get dumped on the screw.
I down jetted the ports to regulate the drip and will be adding to the cross ways at a later time. ;{)------
Keith, I love your videos. Thanks for posting them. Say, did the docs have you on hydrocodone? You sure seem more wired and shaky than normal. That stuff screws me up royally! I hope you're healing up well. Keep the vids coming!
Hello Keith, glad your back, would you think about putting a fender around the oil hose against flying chips?
yeah, I thought about hot chips burning them...especially with the nice "reminder" I got on my forearm today, LOL!
Iceink FXC i
Well done!
More oil will go too the Back side way and may starve the last outlet, A manifold would be more even flow
frank66 newman He could always install a Y or T piece and a new insert for the back.
Or pinch down the line to precision meter the volume of oil going to the last outlet you are talking about. Quick and Dirty ! By golly! LOL
Nice project to watch. Thanks!
At 37:54 that drill bit broke off in the part...did you get it out? Or maybe it broke as it was exiting the part and flew off to the side. Not sure after watching it again. The drill bit definitely got shorter though.
Keith, if you're missing a drill bit, take a look at 38:05 :)
Did you ever find that drill bit you blew off the mill vise at 38:02?
Nice job running those lines. Mine never look that good :D
Skoda is name of guy frpm 1900+. There are several Skoda companies in Czech rep. Skoda Plzen is big and heavy industry. There are several more companies Skoda, one of them is Skoda Auto, which is part of VW. The Skoda making tools was big between wars, during WWII they were making guns etc for the nazis.
Hey Keith why didn't you use bijor metering valves for this job they are a check valve so the oil will not drain back and only open with a slight pressure and metors the amount of oil your getting ? Also after this job would you think about doing this to your bigger lathe ??
I will be doing the big lathe also. ;{)------
At 38:05 you blew a drill off of your mill table, in case you can't find it anymore ;)