Can we just appreciate the fact that a person with a criminal history who was working in the back room of HCL with access to hole cards, on the same night as the J4 hand, 'stole' 10K off the stack of the person accused of cheating... yeah.
By far the most suspicious part of the Hustler cheating bit is that Robbi gave it back. I would never in my entire life give back a legit win on no evidence
Right, id be laughing it up at Garret and dangling the money in front of him like nah nah you’re never gonna get this. All facts aside, I’ve never seen someone give back someone’s chips they won in a poker game for six figures. If this was commonly done like some reverse slow roll then okay she got him but she paid him back instantly is odd.
Hey, Doug! At 2:22 you show a photo of "Henry Orenstein" inventor of both the Hold card cam, and the Transformer toy line. Coincidentally, the photo you show is not Orenstein, but my old boss, Ron Van Leeuwen, owner of Toronto's Silver Snail Comic Book Store showing off his Transformers in June, 1985. This photo was taken for a Toronto Star shoot, but subsequently used in several obit articles about Orenstein. Ron, however, is alive and well and living on the profits he made selling Transformers.
@@seankiesling2054I was watching HCL last week while visiting my grandma and Nick was on. My grandma said "isn't that the sweet boy I paid $30,000 for that real estate course?
Nobody is ever calling with J high there ever . She only beats that exact hand Garrett has & then its still a flip . She gave Garret the money back because she wanted it to go away as she had been caught along with the guy in the backroom & didn't want it to blow up . She called in totally the worst spot she could have & the only way she does that if she was cheating . She got let of light & is lucky to still be playing .
@user-ly6pl3bk7j it wasn't a flip tho. She was still a dog. The person relaying the message. Just relays she has the best hand. Probably gets a cut, sees she has the best hand. And says fuck it go for it
Thing anyone who is actually cheating would never call there. if she had jammed all in and Garrett called id say she was cheating. But if she did have acess to cheat then that is the worst possible hand to cheat on. Pick better spots and you will crush when you have solid hands. there is no way any cheater would call there knowing that is an impossible hand to call with. Ive made hero calls for 2 k before with Q high and was right. So if she is playing on someone elses dime maybe she could care less.
If a game is confident in their security they will allow players to ask, "what is your RFID security? What is your stream delay? Do you do background checks on dealers and production staff." They will give you a detailed and comprehensive answer (like Doug does here). If anyone ever says "we can't disclose any information for security reasons"...run.
In case anyone is thinking that a cheat could use a RFID card reader at the table to cheat by logging which unique strings of numbers, say, the aces are transmitting, the number sent to the reader is different every time. Every time the card needs to be read, the RFID reader sends a newly generated number to the chip in the card, which then uses a secure algorithm to calculate and generate a different identification number to send back to the reader. That number is then plugged into another algorithm to identify the card for the viewers. The entire interchange is encrypted for good measure. So even if someone gets an RFID card reader close enough to another player's hole cards, it's not going to read anything useful.
Depending on how often the decks are swapped, the RFID codes could be mapped. It wouldn't be hard to scan your hold cards. Eventually, you could scan the cards for most of the deck. If you had a strong enough scanner, you could probably scan the players to the direct left and right. You wouldn't have a lot of data, but even knowing the value of 1 hold card could mean the difference of a win/loss.
I remember during the original Poker Stars Big Game, there was some speculation as to whether the pros were playing with their own or real money. The production suggested it was legit. However, in one big hand between Phil Laak and Daniel Negreanu, Laak tanked with trip aces on the river before calling the large bet and winning. He immediately explained the tank by saying, “In a *real* cash game, that’s a fold” … and his table mates’ expression made it look as though Laak just revealed a secret that he shouldn’t have.
I'm not sure I would read that as, "we are playing with fake money." To me that sounds more like, "In a real cash game that isn't televised (so people can see me being nitty) and doesn't have poker pros splashing money with awful hands I would fold." Those games (and really any televised/streamed cash game tbh) used to play incredibly loose, Phil Galfond actually has a vid about being kicked off high stakes poker for playing too tight.
@@BortSamsung Agreed. It doesn't necessarily mean the game was a hoax/fake money. It could mean just since it was in a different context/format than usual cash games, his decision-making process was different. However, the immediate reaction of a couple table mates appeared a little suspicious. Will post a link if I can find it.
The biggest skill in poker is game selection. It basically and simplistically means that you choose games where you play against whales/noobs and you avoid playing with those who have some skill and try to never play with those who have better skill. Well, if you calculate this, it means that the whole scheme is ponzi. It relies on attracting noobs who will lose their money to you. But eventually you will run out of noobs
Would you say Hustler covered up the Garrett hand investigation?? It would make sense especially at how well their streams were and are doing.. potentially fooooks their business if it come out he was cheated☺️ I have eyes and a brain 🧠 too Doug☺️☺️
100% Did you know that she claimed she didn’t know the HCL employee that “stole” 10K from her stack? But somehow they followed each other on Twitter. Did you also know that same employee moved (can’t remember if it was a chair or a cabinet) to block the cameras view of him that day? (This wasn’t listed in HCL’s “investigation report” btw). Same report that also stated there was no evidence there was collusion between Robbi and Rip… Even though Robbie literally admitted that her and Rip were intentionally soft playing each other.
Dude, Polk is arguing THE BEST poker narrator, announcer we have in the pro world. Few are as sharp. I love his breakdown of the game. The faces, the issues. Well done, Doug! Long time fan!
Literally this. If anything she cheated him out of 30k cause she should have folded to the turn 3b?? But she still had to win the flip. Crazy to take back 130
@@connorwhite2964 exactly. They both got it in good, had nothing to complain about. If there wasn’t a river to come, I can see people complaining. It was all clickbait for all the vloggers. Anybody who thinks robbi had a huge sophisticated cheating scam is either lying for clicks, or is a moron.
@@santaclause3487 How in tf do you call off 109k on that turn with J4??????????????????????????? She cheated. G-man put her all in and she could have saved 109k and folded with J high, but she chose to call? Why, or better yet how could you call there? lol
@@omgDavidGlasper Yeah I get it how insane the call is. But even if she somehow cheated this hand she stole 30 in EV not 130. Unless we think she knows the two board allin on turn runout but no one suspecting this.
Imagine for one Mike Postle who don't care about his reputation or being caught, how many other cheaters are doing the same thing but in a smart calculated way..
4:10 I guess someone could read the strings during game and enter the corresponding card info to their device as they learn it by seeing the cards. But then how would anyone read the chips from another player's cards or the deck, from distance. I guess that would make it hard or impossible to exploit the chips. Unless they had access to rig the table with their own stuff to read the chips.
So when does the lodge go online ? . Id love to see a site which electronically shuffle the cards and then export the deck to a third party just prior to them being dealt but with a time delay lock and then the BB gets to cut the deck at any number they choose . Ie so there's no option to cheat
I'm curious about the RFID being secure. If the RFID chips in each card are assigned randomized IDs before the game, and if someone saw those RFIDs they would only see the ID and not the card suit and value, couldn't they just play for an hour or so, and every time they got their hole cards match it up to the two RFID IDs. At first you couldn't be sure which of your two cards match up to which of the two RFID IDs, but after a while you would be able to eliminate and match up the IDs with the card to where you know what every RFID ID represents?
It's an algorithm. Different each hand. One hand the ace of spades would show up as XTL589A3D67N and the next hand it would be FGV546M1V28X. These people are not idiots. It's like lock manufacturers. Do you really think the people who make safes make them so some slick on a tv show can put a magnet on the door and have some lights flash and sounds beep and the door pops open? Or a guy puts his picks into a door lock and 3 seconds later the door is defeated? No. One side is always thinking about how their product can be defeated and taking steps to prevent that and the other side is taking their product apart to find ways around their safeguards.
I’ll spare you the time watching this video: It’s a promotional piece for polks stream: trust the lodge don’t trust hcl. Nah, I’ll pass. Polks judgment was way off on the Robbi incident. It’s quite obvious that she didn’t cheat. It’s not a 50/50 as he makes it seem. And back in the heat of the moment, Polk believed, without any evidence of substance, that it was a 90% plus chance that she cheated. Yeah, ok, I’ll pass.
Serious question: Does the card chip get a new randomized recognition code when a new hand is shuffled? It would be childs play code such a feature into the game coding
If you got access to the codes all you have to do is watch the game and and gather what cards are out and what codes are out. Wouldnt take long to figure out all the card codes
I recently started playing online poker and totally can understand why boardcasts went to revealing the cards. It doesn’t affect the player experience it’s for the audience. I don’t know what he has, they don’t know what I have and part of the fun is trying to guess what they have. But for a tv audience that doesn’t deliver as well so showing them the information gets them more invested.
The Botez sessions were rigged to make her win… she instantly got sponsored by GG and started advertising the game in the chess community in hopes of bringing new players to the platform… It’s an obvious move!!
Great breakdown, Doug! It may not be apparent to the average viewer, but someone in the control room must have those rfid cards in real-time for the broadcast to function! Even though the broadcast is delayed, cards must be read in realtime!
Cheating on a Stream is the dumbest possible thing you could do. I wonder what percentage of cheats operate in regular games undetected and how that relates to televised events
Oh yeah, you should also assume MANY players online are using cheats (advantaged play) to influence their strategy, like a gto chart From my experience with Online Competitive games, the percentage of cheaters can be Very High; add real money to the mix and there will be even more. A fair estimate would be 1-5% online. I'd assume casino security does a decent job in general discouraging cheats But it's really funny that you can post recorded footage of blatant cheating for hundreds of thousands of dollars and those players not facing a jail sentence or similar!
Mr Doug, I play in a home game every few weeks and when people make big bets on the river I think "I know they haven't bluffed the previous 8000 times, but this'll be the time that they are!!" and yet, they are not. Is this rigged?!?!
Most of the players in my home game haven't learned how to bluff yet and there's not much point in bluffing them either since they always bet based on what's in their own hand anyway!
It's has the same tech as your credit card storing the information about that card in a heavily coded security form .. each spot at the table has an area in front of the spot with an RFID reader same reader as your phone or a card machine or tap to pay has we high sends that decide code to a central computer and that information is overlayed over the broadcast and wham you have a poker stream .. most "good secure" streams will postpone that and the play in the room is locked down and the broadcast room is on a delay so the broadcasters are commenting on the information from 30 minutes to an hour earlier . As it's shown to the audience they comment on it . Thilus preventing cheating .. production doesn't need to see the cards to do the video in advance they can get shots of the players in hands and what they sre doing without rhe need of actually seeing the cards innreal time
@@stevet8121why does every conversation in America have to have this subject interjected ? It's like 10% of this country whole identity has become who resides in the Whitehouse even though whoever is actually there couldn't care less about everyday Americans and show examples every day of the disdain they have for John Q Public . Let it go already and your life will get better immediately
@@dwayneb72 Did you know? The "Q" in John Q. Public stands for "quisquam." The first recorded use of that name is from the late 1700s, when the new United States of America was discussing whether English or German would be the country's official language. (btw, do you know what the official language of USA is?) Many Lutherans of German heritage also spoke Latin and used the term "quisquam" to mean "anyone in general."
Robbi was a committed recreational player who had studied Garrett and his habitual bluffing. She practiced for months or years to take him down. This was her opportunity and she made the most of it. Garrett publicly accused her of cheating, maligned her play, her and her husband and under pressure, she refunded the money on the condition that he return to play more in the same game that night. She was 100% confident she could win the same money back from him AGAIN and MORE. Unfortunately, he changed his mind, chickened out and absconded with the money she had won from him. In my opinion, she and her husband have a slam dunk case against him for character assassination as proven by thousands of online comments posted against her by people taking Garrett's word for it.
Seeing how they are using an RFID Chips in cards to identify what card is on the table, could the same technology be used in an automatic shuffler, Inquiring minds would love to know this one, If possible it would greatly change the odds on table game more so to the house side.
If the casino wants to cheat, there is nothing you could do about it. They take the cards out of a box and what happens in there or before - you never no. No need for RFID here, there are so many easier ways.
I hadn't really thought about it until you mentioned it, but the IR chips are not secure at all. You said that the chip just represents a large number that can only be interpreted on the back end, where a computer knows the mapping of each number to a particular card. However, that's only true at the start of the stream. It is not as if they swap out the cards after every hand. Assume that a bad actor who is playing has his own IR reader in his shirtsleeve, say, which connects to his own computer. The first hand he gets, he scans his own cards and signals the computer what they are. Now it knows those two codes, and pretty soon the cheater's computer knows the whole deck. The difficult part, for the cheater, is getting the opportunity to scan cards he doesn't know yet. Can he get close enough to scan his opponent's cards, or the top few cards on the deck before they are dealt out on the board?
Doug, I have followed you from wayyy back and while I didn’t always agree with you, you always made an intelligent, well thought out, compelling argument for your opinion (Side note, I imagine you would have been a top 1% debater had you not been a top 1% poker player). That said, by the time I got around 11-12 min into the video, I started feeling the same way someone feels when they start watching something for 10 min before realizing it is merely an infomercial. I watch all of your content, but upon seeing the headline on this vlog and hearing the first few minutes, I thought perhaps there was some explosive new way of cheating that you had uncovered. Maybe even a new way to protect yourself or an innovative tech initiative. Nope, none of that. Just a boring recap of everything that anyone who has watched more than a handful of your videos (not to mention that the majority of your subscribers are subbed bc we respect your nuanced opinions and your usual higher than average thought process in the first place) would have already poured over a dozen times by now. Yet, that wasn’t the reason I felt embarrassed for you by the end of the vlog. You used everything I mentioned as a vehicle to hype your poker room. I never thought you’d be a sellout but here we are.
I'm still on Robbi's side. If she knew what Garrett had then she , or whoever she was in cahoots with knew the odds weren't in their favor 53% to 47% odds so calling would be a bad risk. Also, she said it herself, I'm playing you Garrett, not the cards. She knew he was bluffing a lot, had a reputation for bluffing, and had a feeling she had top card with the J. Giving back the money doesn't spell cheating to me either, it spells a young woman in a largely men's game in a very new to her casino on a very popular steam. She didn't want the notoriety, but even after returning the money, Garret wouldn't let it go, and caused them both a lot of grief! We'll never know the 100% truth on this one, but she did take a polygraph, and passed so whatever that's worth plays into my opinion she wasn't cheating!👍😎✌🗽
I think you are right. You can't rely on players doing the logical, by the percentages move every time and if they don't they are cheaters. People gamble, get a feeling, or are playing the player. The fact she gave back the money is the same sort of thing - It wasn't logical (or something I would ever do), but that doesn't necessarily mean she cheated. If she had lost the hand no one would even noticed. If it was Dnegs instead of Robbie we would all think it was just another great read by the maser.
FYI: Potripper was on Absolute Poker, not Ultimate Bet. And granted, they shared a parent company at the time and eventually merged under the Cereus Network, but they weren't the same. It's sort of like saying "Patrik Antonius was a huge winner as FinddaGrind on PokerStars in 2013" just because Stars owned Tilt by then.
@@IAmPez Mike Postle was effectively acquitted of the cheating allegations due to a combination of legal and procedural reasons. The civil lawsuit filed against him, Stones Gambling Hall, and its poker and livestream manager Justin Kuraitis, was dismissed by Federal Judge William B. Shubb in June 2020. The dismissal was based on a California law that prevents the recovery of gambling losses through civil suits. This law, rooted in public policy, disallows the judicial resolution of disputes arising from gambling activities [❞] [❞].The judge's decision cited the 1999 Kelly v. First Astri Corp case, reinforcing that gambling losses cannot be recovered in court under California law. Consequently, the case against Postle was dismissed with prejudice, meaning it could not be refiled. This decision effectively protected Postle from civil liability related to the cheating allegations [❞].
I was hoping this would also touch on the area of "Are they playing with their real money?" "Is it all just for show and they give the money back at the end?" "Are advertisers just staking them and it's not their real money?" ALways curious about that
Yeah when the shitstorm on Postle was happening Doug even said hos difficult it would be to convince the judge. "Your Honor, this is not how you play 54o", good luck with that
@@behhe1235 his unrealistic win rate with video of him folding AK with a dry Ace flop but calling a post flop 3 bet with 9-6o with a gutter and winning is the only evidence they woukd have and if the judge has absolutely no idea how poker works it's gonna be impossible for a judge to know what he's looking at lol
The thing that I think people are missing with these RFID readers is that if you have one built into a cell phone or some other device, or one that’s easily held in the palm of your hand, you can scan the RFID chip to get that string of characters. If you send one of these strings to somebody else via text message or some other method, and then let them know what that card was, that player could easily keep a database of what string of characters is for which card. Now, if you use the same portable RFID reader and got caught enough to your opponents chips, for instance, standing over them, staring at their cards or their chips and pretending to get a chip count, cough cough, you could have a way to read those RFID readers and get a response back from your collaborator in in real time what cards they have. It would be difficult and time-consuming, but most streams last for several hours so the chances that you’re going to see a majority of these cards is not out of the question. You would have to have some way of getting close enough to that person, so when you’re playing heads up against somebody next to you, it’s quite feasible to cheat in this method
They could easily swap decks with different card values, destroying this method. But I guess you only really need to identify a few cards to get an edge.
A more interesting question is "Is online poker rigged?". When you look at the facts that not one poker site has all its code audited by an outside source apart from poker stars random number generator. Banks had to do this after some programmer started shaving interest which forced by law external audits of the banks software code. But why would poker sites manipulate the results? To encourage bad gamblers to win more , to play more to get more rake! Are the poker sites owners that greedy to risk that? If they had nothing to hide they would have an external audit but not one does it even to get a completive edge in marketing against other online poke sites. It makes you think! You also notice nobody in the poker industry talks about this issue. Yes talking at you Doug!
man watching mike postle was so entertainment! I watched so many videos on that topic and he was a god. man that robbi was wild it was just one hand though. Mike had thousands
And they were both fools. And so was Ivey. It I had partnered with him, we'd STILL be kicking ass at high-limit Baccarat and nobody would be the wiser.
i mean gotta admit, being able to use some kind of gto chart or solver mid live sesh for your specific situations peeking down out of the corner of ur eye is a skill in itself lol
Correction: The RFID chip "was invented" in 1973. Ever since then it was in use in the industry (parts tracking in factories) and libraries. The "invention" of pressing it into a card was a new application for a very old tech.
OL Poker is suspect as all hell. There have been many studies on the percentages of X happening, and they happen WAY more frequently in OL poker. Something like 4times as much. The thing is, I dont think it's rigged to any one person. It is rigged as such to amplify action.
I was in a cash game last week a man and woman sat down next to each other the woman played super tight the man played fairly loose every time she was going to fold she would push her cards all the way out to the line then lift them up like she was checking them again before releasing them the cards showing the guy with her the cards she was folding I stopped the action called the floor they told them not to do that any more as it looks like cheating they both left the table very shortly after if you see something say something it can feel awkward to call out people's actions like that and you don't want to be wrong
for those who are unsure when he says i have eyes and a brain that works, he also agrees robbi cheated like every other rationally thinking poker player. hmmm just so happens the guy she was cheating with took/stole his cut(10%) from her stack!!!1 because he was upset she gave the money back to garret if thats not enough evidence i mean calling 100k with j hi lol no! not in this spot
My take is that the general public suspect the games are fake at times. That incidents such as Robbi's are part of the drama. This happens as poker is monotonous and lacking most of the time.
Biggest lesson in cybersecurity: Although technical hacks do happen and are important to prevent, “social engineering” attacks are far more frequent and harder to prevent At the end of the day, any human with full access needs to be well-trained and fully trusted. The computers can be encrypted and air gapped all you want, but if the humans involved give away privileged information (whether intentionally or not), the cheaters still win Edit: And in the case of your poker room, you intentionally keep the hole card info obfuscated from everyone! Good on you. There’s really no reason for production to have any idea what the hole cards are Leave that for the stream commentators (who I assume typically do their commentary “live” while watching the footage with the audience, after the 30-45 min delay)
another thing is really, how it comes that she now plays like an absolute standard fish in all the games after this stream?? If you are able to pull moves like that on the best in the game (clicking back on turn with A high etc.)..you should crush most of the games.
Postle was just the best LIVE body language reader of all time! But he only wanted to prove his talents on a live stream... other than that he was just slightly above average.
One thing I always think that could be used as cheating is these stupid card protectors players use they could easily have like a UV coating on the bottom marking certain cards
I've had pit bosses regularly pull cards from a game, take them aside, and closely examine the backs before allowing the game to resume. Particularly when one player continually reaches behind their ear or pretends to fix their hair.
First time I thought this was 2006 WSOP with Gold the card run he caught while also being teamed up with Chan who’s obviously in the club just seemed to suspect
@@anatolytsinker5317 It makes it look more suspicious, if she was cheating why would she want to look more suspicious. Get a grip you have zero actual proof.
Did you know that she claimed she didn’t know the HCL employee that “stole” 10K from her stack? But somehow they followed each other on Twitter. Did you also know that same employee moved (can’t remember if it was a chair or a cabinet) to block the cameras view of him that day? (This wasn’t listed in HCL’s “investigation report” btw). Same report that also stated there was no evidence there was collusion between Robbi and Rip… Even though Robbie literally admitted that her and Rip were intentionally soft playing each other.
You didn't address whether the chip value is being inflated for effect. I strongly suspect that many of these so-called million dollar hands just appear to be big hands, but the players only post a fraction of that money. It's juiced up to get a wider audience that gets googly eyes at big pots.
Just a question. So if all the cards can be identified then is it safe to say that the technology exists to be able to put those cards In whatever order they see fit coming out of the shuffling machine. I think the dealers should earn their money and offer a cut every time
Didn't you watch 'Ocean's 13'? They had every game in the casino rigged to pay out to the customer - auto shufflers included. I think about that every time I bank at Pai Gow Poker and get the worst hand at the table.
Doug brother if you get me to speak i tell you the situation witg garret gets cheated and how to know what kind of people are the others on the table it would be interesting for sure
His opinion on the title is within the last minute of the video, so you can skip the other 13 min. Oddly enough 30 seconds in I skipped to the end of the video knowing his thoughts of the title would be at the end.
Great video Polk, althougg he didnt really touch on if the money is real etc. I always see coments about o there not playing with there actual money its someone elses etc...
I think the answer with Postle is rather clear… he was checking to see if he had the nuts
given the amount of checking...I think NO NUTS is a good bet.
Go nad or go home.
Ballsy!
he had but they were very small
Ayooooo
Can we just appreciate the fact that a person with a criminal history who was working in the back room of HCL with access to hole cards, on the same night as the J4 hand, 'stole' 10K off the stack of the person accused of cheating... yeah.
def was his payout for the info.
15
I would have taken more lol
Also happens to be 10% of the total.
It just seems to unprobable that it was a coinsidence..
By far the most suspicious part of the Hustler cheating bit is that Robbi gave it back. I would never in my entire life give back a legit win on no evidence
Yeah it makes no sense to give the money back. If you did nothing wrong, you would fight that. Weird situation
If I beat you with a retarded call .. I ain’t giving sh… , and that the hustler allowed it is despicable
Right, id be laughing it up at Garret and dangling the money in front of him like nah nah you’re never gonna get this. All facts aside, I’ve never seen someone give back someone’s chips they won in a poker game for six figures. If this was commonly done like some reverse slow roll then okay she got him but she paid him back instantly is odd.
She won’t have wanted to. She’d have felt pressured into doing so.
@@joshuamitchell5530that’s called guilt my guy 😂
Hey, Doug! At 2:22 you show a photo of "Henry Orenstein" inventor of both the Hold card cam, and the Transformer toy line. Coincidentally, the photo you show is not Orenstein, but my old boss, Ron Van Leeuwen, owner of Toronto's Silver Snail Comic Book Store showing off his Transformers in June, 1985. This photo was taken for a Toronto Star shoot, but subsequently used in several obit articles about Orenstein. Ron, however, is alive and well and living on the profits he made selling Transformers.
big Dull Men's Club energy
cheating
Seems like Doug is saying come play poker at the lodge, high stakes players don’t play at hustler casino live, throwing some shade at Nick Vertucci
could be we can never know.........at hcl. all the $$$ tossed around....
He's slowly going to take HCL place I feel like. They keep slipping up and there's Doug always in the background
Or he's saying 30 minutes delay is the only way to know that nobody cheat.
Nick Vertucci deserves allllll the shade
@@seankiesling2054I was watching HCL last week while visiting my grandma and Nick was on. My grandma said "isn't that the sweet boy I paid $30,000 for that real estate course?
Nobody is ever calling with J high there ever . She only beats that exact hand Garrett has & then its still a flip . She gave Garret the money back because she wanted it to go away as she had been caught along with the guy in the backroom & didn't want it to blow up . She called in totally the worst spot she could have & the only way she does that if she was cheating . She got let of light & is lucky to still be playing .
She would if you have ever seen her play. If she knew it was a flip, why would she call the all-in?
@@AlexanderNewman-v1xsimple. She didn’t have access to the exact cards, but just knew if she was good or not.
@user-ly6pl3bk7j it wasn't a flip tho. She was still a dog. The person relaying the message. Just relays she has the best hand. Probably gets a cut, sees she has the best hand. And says fuck it go for it
@@brandonf4196 Doesn't matter. She had pot odds. It was the correct call being completely results oriented. She cheated.
Thing anyone who is actually cheating would never call there. if she had jammed all in and Garrett called id say she was cheating. But if she did have acess to cheat then that is the worst possible hand to cheat on. Pick better spots and you will crush when you have solid hands. there is no way any cheater would call there knowing that is an impossible hand to call with. Ive made hero calls for 2 k before with Q high and was right. So if she is playing on someone elses dime maybe she could care less.
If a game is confident in their security they will allow players to ask, "what is your RFID security? What is your stream delay? Do you do background checks on dealers and production staff." They will give you a detailed and comprehensive answer (like Doug does here).
If anyone ever says "we can't disclose any information for security reasons"...run.
In case anyone is thinking that a cheat could use a RFID card reader at the table to cheat by logging which unique strings of numbers, say, the aces are transmitting, the number sent to the reader is different every time.
Every time the card needs to be read, the RFID reader sends a newly generated number to the chip in the card, which then uses a secure algorithm to calculate and generate a different identification number to send back to the reader. That number is then plugged into another algorithm to identify the card for the viewers. The entire interchange is encrypted for good measure.
So even if someone gets an RFID card reader close enough to another player's hole cards, it's not going to read anything useful.
Damn… Firsr they stopped me from wardriving garage door opener codes, and now RFID chips??
What will they think of next…? 🤔
@@Muhahahahaz - But the Simply Safe burglar detection can be defeated by $20 worth of electronics.
Bro went hard against HCL. Basically called them out as a bunch of back-room cheaters at the end.
If the shoe fits..............
This video was just an advertisement for his own room.
@@BornIn1500 - I'd love to catch cheating at the Lodge.
I still think Robbi was cheating in that J4 hand. I can't think of any other reason she'd call there
I agree...but...WHY did she run it TWICE? Makes no sense!
When is Mike Matusow heater gonna start?
When someone else loans him a million dollars.
You didnt watch that Hustler session where he flopped like 4 sets in 2 hours and got max value? 😂
@@Brazz27 No I didn't, but I'm glad he finally found a way to win.
It'll be after Jean Robert's heater...
When the battery in his chair overheats and catches fire.
Depending on how often the decks are swapped, the RFID codes could be mapped. It wouldn't be hard to scan your hold cards. Eventually, you could scan the cards for most of the deck. If you had a strong enough scanner, you could probably scan the players to the direct left and right. You wouldn't have a lot of data, but even knowing the value of 1 hold card could mean the difference of a win/loss.
And knowing the difference between hold and hole may help you in the bedroom as well.
The intro kept me glued to the screen. Polk, you are a natural show host. Like 👍
I paused the commercial and went straight to the comments so I wouldn't know.
Hey Doug, If I could convince Postle to come to the Lodge, would you let me play too? 🤝
Convince Postle to come out back.
I remember during the original Poker Stars Big Game, there was some speculation as to whether the pros were playing with their own or real money. The production suggested it was legit. However, in one big hand between Phil Laak and Daniel Negreanu, Laak tanked with trip aces on the river before calling the large bet and winning. He immediately explained the tank by saying, “In a *real* cash game, that’s a fold” … and his table mates’ expression made it look as though Laak just revealed a secret that he shouldn’t have.
I'm not sure I would read that as, "we are playing with fake money." To me that sounds more like, "In a real cash game that isn't televised (so people can see me being nitty) and doesn't have poker pros splashing money with awful hands I would fold." Those games (and really any televised/streamed cash game tbh) used to play incredibly loose, Phil Galfond actually has a vid about being kicked off high stakes poker for playing too tight.
Oh c'mon..... Who names their kid Bort?
@@BortSamsung Agreed. It doesn't necessarily mean the game was a hoax/fake money. It could mean just since it was in a different context/format than usual cash games, his decision-making process was different. However, the immediate reaction of a couple table mates appeared a little suspicious. Will post a link if I can find it.
@@southbeachtalent My son is also named Bort.
@@Kanders190 we have another jumper off of T.G.I McScratchy's
The biggest skill in poker is game selection. It basically and simplistically means that you choose games where you play against whales/noobs and you avoid playing with those who have some skill and try to never play with those who have better skill. Well, if you calculate this, it means that the whole scheme is ponzi. It relies on attracting noobs who will lose their money to you. But eventually you will run out of noobs
great observation
Would you say Hustler covered up the Garrett hand investigation?? It would make sense especially at how well their streams were and are doing.. potentially fooooks their business if it come out he was cheated☺️ I have eyes and a brain 🧠 too Doug☺️☺️
100% Did you know that she claimed she didn’t know the HCL employee that “stole” 10K from her stack? But somehow they followed each other on Twitter. Did you also know that same employee moved (can’t remember if it was a chair or a cabinet) to block the cameras view of him that day? (This wasn’t listed in HCL’s “investigation report” btw). Same report that also stated there was no evidence there was collusion between Robbi and Rip… Even though Robbie literally admitted that her and Rip were intentionally soft playing each other.
Dude, Polk is arguing THE BEST poker narrator, announcer we have in the pro world. Few are as sharp. I love his breakdown of the game. The faces, the issues.
Well done, Doug! Long time fan!
The word you are looking for is arguably.
Lol. Garret got to flip 50:50 2 times for 130k… for free. If anybody cheated anybody, it was Garrett.
Literally this. If anything she cheated him out of 30k cause she should have folded to the turn 3b?? But she still had to win the flip. Crazy to take back 130
@@connorwhite2964 exactly. They both got it in good, had nothing to complain about. If there wasn’t a river to come, I can see people complaining.
It was all clickbait for all the vloggers. Anybody who thinks robbi had a huge sophisticated cheating scam is either lying for clicks, or is a moron.
@@santaclause3487 How in tf do you call off 109k on that turn with J4??????????????????????????? She cheated. G-man put her all in and she could have saved 109k and folded with J high, but she chose to call? Why, or better yet how could you call there? lol
@@omgDavidGlasper Yeah I get it how insane the call is. But even if she somehow cheated this hand she stole 30 in EV not 130. Unless we think she knows the two board allin on turn runout but no one suspecting this.
Imagine for one Mike Postle who don't care about his reputation or being caught, how many other cheaters are doing the same thing but in a smart calculated way..
4:10 I guess someone could read the strings during game and enter the corresponding card info to their device as they learn it by seeing the cards. But then how would anyone read the chips from another player's cards or the deck, from distance. I guess that would make it hard or impossible to exploit the chips. Unless they had access to rig the table with their own stuff to read the chips.
So when does the lodge go online ? . Id love to see a site which electronically shuffle the cards and then export the deck to a third party just prior to them being dealt but with a time delay lock and then the BB gets to cut the deck at any number they choose . Ie so there's no option to cheat
I'm curious about the RFID being secure. If the RFID chips in each card are assigned randomized IDs before the game, and if someone saw those RFIDs they would only see the ID and not the card suit and value, couldn't they just play for an hour or so, and every time they got their hole cards match it up to the two RFID IDs. At first you couldn't be sure which of your two cards match up to which of the two RFID IDs, but after a while you would be able to eliminate and match up the IDs with the card to where you know what every RFID ID represents?
It's an algorithm. Different each hand. One hand the ace of spades would show up as XTL589A3D67N and the next hand it would be FGV546M1V28X. These people are not idiots. It's like lock manufacturers. Do you really think the people who make safes make them so some slick on a tv show can put a magnet on the door and have some lights flash and sounds beep and the door pops open? Or a guy puts his picks into a door lock and 3 seconds later the door is defeated? No. One side is always thinking about how their product can be defeated and taking steps to prevent that and the other side is taking their product apart to find ways around their safeguards.
I’ll spare you the time watching this video: It’s a promotional piece for polks stream: trust the lodge don’t trust hcl.
Nah, I’ll pass. Polks judgment was way off on the Robbi incident. It’s quite obvious that she didn’t cheat. It’s not a 50/50 as he makes it seem. And back in the heat of the moment, Polk believed, without any evidence of substance, that it was a 90% plus chance that she cheated.
Yeah, ok, I’ll pass.
"Not impossible", referring to Mike (very early on, before you even mentioned him) - very funny, Doug!
how can a player scan the cards in an automatic shuffler? is it possible to set the deck when it goes through the machine?
Yes there has been rigged decks where it transfers which player has the winning hand.
I thought that the dealer cut the cards after they came out of the shuffler so to rig the game you would also need to get a perfect cut.
@@higheloshow can you elaborate? Why would a card club or casino do this?
@@jackbauer789 home games. You can youtube poker phone scam reader.
Serious question: Does the card chip get a new randomized recognition code when a new hand is shuffled? It would be childs play code such a feature into the game coding
If you got access to the codes all you have to do is watch the game and and gather what cards are out and what codes are out. Wouldnt take long to figure out all the card codes
I recently started playing online poker and totally can understand why boardcasts went to revealing the cards. It doesn’t affect the player experience it’s for the audience. I don’t know what he has, they don’t know what I have and part of the fun is trying to guess what they have. But for a tv audience that doesn’t deliver as well so showing them the information gets them more invested.
Gather together whatever money you plan to play online with and kiss it good bye.
The Botez sessions were rigged to make her win… she instantly got sponsored by GG and started advertising the game in the chess community in hopes of bringing new players to the platform… It’s an obvious move!!
Great breakdown, Doug!
It may not be apparent to the average viewer, but someone in the control room must have those rfid cards in real-time for the broadcast to function!
Even though the broadcast is delayed, cards must be read in realtime!
Cheating on a Stream is the dumbest possible thing you could do.
I wonder what percentage of cheats operate in regular games undetected and how that relates to televised events
Oh yeah, you should also assume MANY players online are using cheats (advantaged play) to influence their strategy, like a gto chart
From my experience with Online Competitive games, the percentage of cheaters can be Very High; add real money to the mix and there will be even more.
A fair estimate would be 1-5% online.
I'd assume casino security does a decent job in general discouraging cheats
But it's really funny that you can post recorded footage of blatant cheating for hundreds of thousands of dollars and those players not facing a jail sentence or similar!
@@JustinHampton-l5j - Anyone who gambles online gets EXACTLY what he or she deserves.
Mr Doug, I play in a home game every few weeks and when people make big bets on the river I think "I know they haven't bluffed the previous 8000 times, but this'll be the time that they are!!" and yet, they are not. Is this rigged?!?!
Yes it’s rigged keep trying
They are only bluffing when you don't call. Would you like to join my home game? I will pay for your share of the snacks! 😂😂😂🎉
ALWAYS snap off river check raises
Most of the players in my home game haven't learned how to bluff yet and there's not much point in bluffing them either since they always bet based on what's in their own hand anyway!
Ya these are the people who play cards...not poker. 😅
Don't the cards only have a tag, not a chip? Essentially working as a barcode. The tag doesn't emit messages, it just bounces back
It's has the same tech as your credit card storing the information about that card in a heavily coded security form .. each spot at the table has an area in front of the spot with an RFID reader same reader as your phone or a card machine or tap to pay has we high sends that decide code to a central computer and that information is overlayed over the broadcast and wham you have a poker stream .. most "good secure" streams will postpone that and the play in the room is locked down and the broadcast room is on a delay so the broadcasters are commenting on the information from 30 minutes to an hour earlier . As it's shown to the audience they comment on it . Thilus preventing cheating .. production doesn't need to see the cards to do the video in advance they can get shots of the players in hands and what they sre doing without rhe need of actually seeing the cards innreal time
@@dwayneb72 heavily coded is a stretch. Basic encryption that the production has the hash for anyway
LOL "my opinion? I have eyes and a brain that works". Love the videos Doug, keep them coming! Always a blast to watch.
Hey Doug. Can you do a video on Luda and his win rate on HCL. Obv he’s played in a lot of shows so I appreciate that could take a while to compile.
Suppose anything with a computer can be compromised
poker, or even elections.
@@stevet8121why does every conversation in America have to have this subject interjected ? It's like 10% of this country whole identity has become who resides in the Whitehouse even though whoever is actually there couldn't care less about everyday Americans and show examples every day of the disdain they have for John Q Public . Let it go already and your life will get better immediately
@@stevet8121especially elections
@@dwayneb72 Did you know? The "Q" in John Q. Public stands for "quisquam."
The first recorded use of that name is from the late 1700s, when the new United States of America was discussing whether English or German would be the country's official language. (btw, do you know what the official language of USA is?)
Many Lutherans of German heritage also spoke Latin and used the term "quisquam" to mean "anyone in general."
Robbi was a committed recreational player who had studied Garrett and his habitual bluffing. She practiced for months or years to take him down. This was her opportunity and she made the most of it. Garrett publicly accused her of cheating, maligned her play, her and her husband and under pressure, she refunded the money on the condition that he return to play more in the same game that night. She was 100% confident she could win the same money back from him AGAIN and MORE. Unfortunately, he changed his mind, chickened out and absconded with the money she had won from him. In my opinion, she and her husband have a slam dunk case against him for character assassination as proven by thousands of online comments posted against her by people taking Garrett's word for it.
Seeing how they are using an RFID Chips in cards to identify what card is on the table, could the same technology be used in an automatic shuffler, Inquiring minds would love to know this one, If possible it would greatly change the odds on table game more so to the house side.
If the casino wants to cheat, there is nothing you could do about it.
They take the cards out of a box and what happens in there or before - you never no. No need for RFID here, there are so many easier ways.
I hadn't really thought about it until you mentioned it, but the IR chips are not secure at all. You said that the chip just represents a large number that can only be interpreted on the back end, where a computer knows the mapping of each number to a particular card. However, that's only true at the start of the stream. It is not as if they swap out the cards after every hand.
Assume that a bad actor who is playing has his own IR reader in his shirtsleeve, say, which connects to his own computer. The first hand he gets, he scans his own cards and signals the computer what they are. Now it knows those two codes, and pretty soon the cheater's computer knows the whole deck. The difficult part, for the cheater, is getting the opportunity to scan cards he doesn't know yet. Can he get close enough to scan his opponent's cards, or the top few cards on the deck before they are dealt out on the board?
Doug, I have followed you from wayyy back and while I didn’t always agree with you, you always made an intelligent, well thought out, compelling argument for your opinion (Side note, I imagine you would have been a top 1% debater had you not been a top 1% poker player). That said, by the time I got around 11-12 min into the video, I started feeling the same way someone feels when they start watching something for 10 min before realizing it is merely an infomercial.
I watch all of your content, but upon seeing the headline on this vlog and hearing the first few minutes, I thought perhaps there was some explosive new way of cheating that you had uncovered. Maybe even a new way to protect yourself or an innovative tech initiative. Nope, none of that. Just a boring recap of everything that anyone who has watched more than a handful of your videos (not to mention that the majority of your subscribers are subbed bc we respect your nuanced opinions and your usual higher than average thought process in the first place) would have already poured over a dozen times by now. Yet, that wasn’t the reason I felt embarrassed for you by the end of the vlog.
You used everything I mentioned as a vehicle to hype your poker room. I never thought you’d be a sellout but here we are.
I believe it's pored.
My first time watching poker, i remember them playing on a glass table, with cameras underneath it for the cards.
Lodge Vs HCL beef has Started 😂
Anyone know a Decent Card room in Austin Texas as I've not heard anyone mention any recently
I'm still on Robbi's side. If she knew what Garrett had then she , or whoever she was in cahoots with knew the odds weren't in their favor 53% to 47% odds so calling would be a bad risk. Also, she said it herself, I'm playing you Garrett, not the cards. She knew he was bluffing a lot, had a reputation for bluffing, and had a feeling she had top card with the J. Giving back the money doesn't spell cheating to me either, it spells a young woman in a largely men's game in a very new to her casino on a very popular steam. She didn't want the notoriety, but even after returning the money, Garret wouldn't let it go, and caused them both a lot of grief! We'll never know the 100% truth on this one, but she did take a polygraph, and passed so whatever that's worth plays into my opinion she wasn't cheating!👍😎✌🗽
I think you are right. You can't rely on players doing the logical, by the percentages move every time and if they don't they are cheaters. People gamble, get a feeling, or are playing the player. The fact she gave back the money is the same sort of thing - It wasn't logical (or something I would ever do), but that doesn't necessarily mean she cheated. If she had lost the hand no one would even noticed. If it was Dnegs instead of Robbie we would all think it was just another great read by the maser.
@@goodcopbadcop9872 Great read, Dnegs is a great analogy, and your correct, everyone would have put it down to his mystical skill!😁👍
But you could use a reader to read the code on the cards dealt to you then you have to code to the card
FYI: Potripper was on Absolute Poker, not Ultimate Bet. And granted, they shared a parent company at the time and eventually merged under the Cereus Network, but they weren't the same. It's sort of like saying "Patrik Antonius was a huge winner as FinddaGrind on PokerStars in 2013" just because Stars owned Tilt by then.
Cool story bro, what's next?
How in the WORLD was Postle acquitted?
"We investigated ourselves and found ourselves to have done nothing wrong"
@@IAmPez Mike Postle was effectively acquitted of the cheating allegations due to a combination of legal and procedural reasons. The civil lawsuit filed against him, Stones Gambling Hall, and its poker and livestream manager Justin Kuraitis, was dismissed by Federal Judge William B. Shubb in June 2020. The dismissal was based on a California law that prevents the recovery of gambling losses through civil suits. This law, rooted in public policy, disallows the judicial resolution of disputes arising from gambling activities [❞] [❞].The judge's decision cited the 1999 Kelly v. First Astri Corp case, reinforcing that gambling losses cannot be recovered in court under California law. Consequently, the case against Postle was dismissed with prejudice, meaning it could not be refiled. This decision effectively protected Postle from civil liability related to the cheating allegations [❞].
On these high stake live streams there isnt like a 5 min delay?
I was hoping this would also touch on the area of "Are they playing with their real money?" "Is it all just for show and they give the money back at the end?" "Are advertisers just staking them and it's not their real money?"
ALways curious about that
Postle got away with it???? I've lost all faith in the legal system
wtf are you talking about. How on earth are you gonna convince a judge that he was cheating?
Bro lol that was like 2 years ago or more he was found innocent. Not exactly breaking news
Yeah when the shitstorm on Postle was happening Doug even said hos difficult it would be to convince the judge. "Your Honor, this is not how you play 54o", good luck with that
@@behhe1235 his unrealistic win rate with video of him folding AK with a dry Ace flop but calling a post flop 3 bet with 9-6o with a gutter and winning is the only evidence they woukd have and if the judge has absolutely no idea how poker works it's gonna be impossible for a judge to know what he's looking at lol
@@seankiesling2054 The only solution is to give it to judge who knows and plays poker
The thing that I think people are missing with these RFID readers is that if you have one built into a cell phone or some other device, or one that’s easily held in the palm of your hand, you can scan the RFID chip to get that string of characters. If you send one of these strings to somebody else via text message or some other method, and then let them know what that card was, that player could easily keep a database of what string of characters is for which card. Now, if you use the same portable RFID reader and got caught enough to your opponents chips, for instance, standing over them, staring at their cards or their chips and pretending to get a chip count, cough cough, you could have a way to read those RFID readers and get a response back from your collaborator in in real time what cards they have.
It would be difficult and time-consuming, but most streams last for several hours so the chances that you’re going to see a majority of these cards is not out of the question.
You would have to have some way of getting close enough to that person, so when you’re playing heads up against somebody next to you, it’s quite feasible to cheat in this method
They could easily swap decks with different card values, destroying this method. But I guess you only really need to identify a few cards to get an edge.
Are u guys hiring in San Antonio?
A more interesting question is "Is online poker rigged?".
When you look at the facts that not one poker site has all its code audited by an outside source apart from poker stars random number generator.
Banks had to do this after some programmer started shaving interest which forced by law external audits of the banks software code.
But why would poker sites manipulate the results?
To encourage bad gamblers to win more , to play more to get more rake!
Are the poker sites owners that greedy to risk that?
If they had nothing to hide they would have an external audit but not one does it even to get a completive edge in marketing against other online poke sites.
It makes you think!
You also notice nobody in the poker industry talks about this issue. Yes talking at you Doug!
man watching mike postle was so entertainment! I watched so many videos on that topic and he was a god. man that robbi was wild it was just one hand though. Mike had thousands
And they were both fools. And so was Ivey. It I had partnered with him, we'd STILL be kicking ass at high-limit Baccarat and nobody would be the wiser.
i mean gotta admit, being able to use some kind of gto chart or solver mid live sesh for your specific situations peeking down out of the corner of ur eye is a skill in itself lol
Correction: The RFID chip "was invented" in 1973. Ever since then it was in use in the industry (parts tracking in factories) and libraries. The "invention" of pressing it into a card was a new application for a very old tech.
you had me at impostleable
He keeps using that word. I do not think it means what he thinks it means.😏
I didn’t know we were getting old news Doug today.
Online poker is rigged af
OL Poker is suspect as all hell. There have been many studies on the percentages of X happening, and they happen WAY more frequently in OL poker. Something like 4times as much. The thing is, I dont think it's rigged to any one person. It is rigged as such to amplify action.
You have any proof of that or are you just talking out of your a$$ ?
I was in a cash game last week a man and woman sat down next to each other the woman played super tight the man played fairly loose every time she was going to fold she would push her cards all the way out to the line then lift them up like she was checking them again before releasing them the cards showing the guy with her the cards she was folding I stopped the action called the floor they told them not to do that any more as it looks like cheating they both left the table very shortly after if you see something say something it can feel awkward to call out people's actions like that and you don't want to be wrong
for those who are unsure when he says i have eyes and a brain that works, he also agrees robbi cheated like every other rationally thinking poker player. hmmm just so happens the guy she was cheating with took/stole his cut(10%) from her stack!!!1 because he was upset she gave the money back to garret if thats not enough evidence i mean calling 100k with j hi lol no! not in this spot
If Robbi had an inside edge tell me why she would take this moment to use the information on the turn when she had a huge chance of losing the hand?
My take is that the general public suspect the games are fake at times.
That incidents such as Robbi's are part of the drama. This happens as poker is monotonous and lacking most of the time.
Biggest lesson in cybersecurity: Although technical hacks do happen and are important to prevent, “social engineering” attacks are far more frequent and harder to prevent
At the end of the day, any human with full access needs to be well-trained and fully trusted. The computers can be encrypted and air gapped all you want, but if the humans involved give away privileged information (whether intentionally or not), the cheaters still win
Edit: And in the case of your poker room, you intentionally keep the hole card info obfuscated from everyone! Good on you. There’s really no reason for production to have any idea what the hole cards are
Leave that for the stream commentators (who I assume typically do their commentary “live” while watching the footage with the audience, after the 30-45 min delay)
another thing is really, how it comes that she now plays like an absolute standard fish in all the games after this stream?? If you are able to pull moves like that on the best in the game (clicking back on turn with A high etc.)..you should crush most of the games.
Hey! Thats my Table at 3:42 ! lol awesome!
ruclips.net/user/shortsBmc9NFfhx74?si=z_mry2Iu7-schCUA
For some reason I absolutely love the old under the glass hole cam
Do we really believe Annie Duke won the 2004 tournament of champions?
“That’s impostalble.” Haha that got me bro 👊🏴☠️
I want to know how much players are given to be in the high roller televised games. They are not all playing with their own money
Postle was just the best LIVE body language reader of all time! But he only wanted to prove his talents on a live stream... other than that he was just slightly above average.
Where is Adelstein? Why is he no longer in any streams? Why is he not invited to play in these streamed games any more? Why dont we see him?
As someone who has walked away from a $1-2 game up a couple thousand, yeah, sometimes you just sun run. Nothing is rigged at a casino card room
7:20 RIP to that one outlier on the left.
pretty sure that's Alan Keating playing against armatures or women.
@@evanmorrison3232armawhats?
Ditch the globe Doug. It’s not a good look
I think it was more fun not knowing what the cards are.
RFID can be easily read by flipper zeros lol. I’m sure the numbers and letters are a lot less random than you think.
4:45 you missed a great opportunity here Doug! Should've said. "Although it's not impostible.."😂
7:25 ah, you gone did it, sorta 😅
One thing I always think that could be used as cheating is these stupid card protectors players use they could easily have like a UV coating on the bottom marking certain cards
I've had pit bosses regularly pull cards from a game, take them aside, and closely examine the backs before allowing the game to resume. Particularly when one player continually reaches behind their ear or pretends to fix their hair.
This is fucking hilarious coming from a guy who's room isn't legit.
First time I thought this was 2006 WSOP with Gold the card run he caught while also being teamed up with Chan who’s obviously in the club just seemed to suspect
The self-plugs are the best parts of these videos
Do ‘most’ of the community really think Robbi cheated? Seems a bit weird to cheat for literally just 1 hand, then return the money you won.
Seems a bit weird to think that she cheated for only one hand, and that she would give the money back if she didn’t cheat
@@anatolytsinker5317 It makes it look more suspicious, if she was cheating why would she want to look more suspicious. Get a grip you have zero actual proof.
@@anatolytsinker5317 but no one seems to think any other hands are suspicious.
Did you know that she claimed she didn’t know the HCL employee that “stole” 10K from her stack? But somehow they followed each other on Twitter. Did you also know that same employee moved (can’t remember if it was a chair or a cabinet) to block the cameras view of him that day? (This wasn’t listed in HCL’s “investigation report” btw). Same report that also stated there was no evidence there was collusion between Robbi and Rip… Even though Robbie literally admitted that her and Rip were intentionally soft playing each other.
@@KevinDurantisnotwhy are you copy lasting this response all the way down the comment section ?
Doug what’s your opinion on the Robbi poker hand & money thing afterwards ?
There are literally hours of content discussing this. Go look
Doug don’t be mad that they don’t allow pros in the MDG24 it was a very consistent rule that they didn’t stray from at all!!
Noone brought up that Jack Rag is also the hand that Potripper (UB scandal) got caught with also
nice vod ty doug keep up the good work
You didn't address whether the chip value is being inflated for effect. I strongly suspect that many of these so-called million dollar hands just appear to be big hands, but the players only post a fraction of that money. It's juiced up to get a wider audience that gets googly eyes at big pots.
Just a question. So if all the cards can be identified then is it safe to say that the technology exists to be able to put those cards In whatever order they see fit coming out of the shuffling machine. I think the dealers should earn their money and offer a cut every time
Didn't you watch 'Ocean's 13'? They had every game in the casino rigged to pay out to the customer - auto shufflers included. I think about that every time I bank at Pai Gow Poker and get the worst hand at the table.
Yep
Whenever there is big money involved, some people will look for a way to gain the edge,
the HCL live chat whenever Peter won a hand during the million dollar game was priceless
INVESTIGATION
THE FIX IS IN
HIT AND RUN
There's rigging and cheating in everything. Pro sports, chess, poker, you name it, there's someone cheating to get an edge.
Doug brother if you get me to speak i tell you the situation witg garret gets cheated and how to know what kind of people are the others on the table it would be interesting for sure
Sure, when you learn how to compose a one sentence comment without f'ing it up.
His opinion on the title is within the last minute of the video, so you can skip the other 13 min. Oddly enough 30 seconds in I skipped to the end of the video knowing his thoughts of the title would be at the end.
Thank you.
Then you should be at a high-stakes poker or Baccarat table, betting half a year's salary per hand.
You missed the story of the 2 gamblers that played for 5 million dollars but one gambler brought counterfeit money and the dealer was ...
Like every other video on this platform... 🤷
ABSOLUTELY without watching the video.... but did anyway... still YES
This feels like convert sponsorship video for The Lodge. He has had plenty of other videos that have been stitched together for this.
Although, it’s not imPOSTLEble 4:45 😂
I dont play internet poker anymore. Filled with cheaters.
Great video Polk, althougg he didnt really touch on if the money is real etc. I always see coments about o there not playing with there actual money its someone elses etc...
Excellent vid Doug.