So, for the #1 entry - That's not what happened. The floor didn't open up and close in on her. She phase shifted into the floor. Meaning she wasn't crushed, she was merged with the floor.
How the hell did they deal with that? Cover her with a tarp and put cones around her until they could stop at the next starbase and have that deck section removed and replaced so she could have a proper burial?
well, i imagine there is probably some transporter-adjacent repair tech that they can use to basically just teleport all the... parts... out 😂 how else does voyager repair some of their damage 😅
It scared the stuffing out of me as a child - even the Borg didn't scare me as much as that scene. It still freaks me out even now! What an awful way to go.
Even as an adult that one is still terrifying to think about. Imagine just going about your day, walking along a hallway you've walked down probably thousands of times during your regular job then suddenly you fall through the floor all Backrooms style. But that's not the worst of it - falling down to the next deck would be painful and inconvenient, but you could just take a turbolift back up. No, halfway through, the floor not only resolidifies _inside of you,_ but your head stays above the floor so that you can see parts of yourself sticking out, feel the pain and realize that you're going to die for the minutes it takes your brain to run out of oxygen. For all of our sanity sake and emotional well being, I think they did us a mercy by having Van Mayter die almost instantly instead of looking up at La Forge and begging for help _before_ dying. That would have been psychologically damaging in uncountable ways, although knowing the writers of the show at the time, they most likely _wanted_ to do that very thing and were overridden by the TV censors as being far to grisly for TV...
the idea comes from rumors of a secret project by the navy in WWII called the Philadelphia Experiment, it was an attempt to cloak a ship that went wrong somehow and men were stuck in the bulkhead or insane
It taken from a conspiracy theory called the Philadelphia Experiment, I was trying to explain what it was but google deleted it for some asinine/nebulous reason so you'll have to look it up on Wikipedia unfortunately :(
I see I'm 6 days too late 🙂. I thought the exact thing when I saw the thumbnail. Its a small mercy that she died instantly, unlike the crew members on the Philadelphia😔.
@@johnmccnj Thankfully for her, Star Trek TNG had to be TV friendly for the time. Especially since her position in the floor, her heart, brain, and lungs would have been intact. No liver or kidneys (as I would assume they would been instantly destroyed base on her position) would bring about a slow painful death. Considering the adrenal glands being attached to the kidneys there would be no adrenaline to help with the pain and also without the adrenal glands, there would be no chance of shock either.
@@johnmccnjyes those men on the uss Eldridge died because they phased at different rates the the steel plates, bulkheads of the ship itself. Humans are composed of mostly lighter elements than a ship, hence the different phasing speeds.
I'd argue that anyone assimilated by the Borg suffered a fate worse than death...as literally everyone who ever managed to be freed from that fate will tell you. But considering how fleetingly few people come back from Borg assimilation, it might as will be called "death."
Actually, that's a good point. We know how much awareness drones have of themselves prior to assimilation, so imagine the terror of the drones when they're forced by the Collective into a combat situation and get mercilessly gunned down, and thanks to the implants, they don't get the mercy of passing out from pain and feel every neuron shutting down as they die.
What makes it all the more traumatic for those who have been liberated is the knowledge that the collective used everything that they know to hurt innocent people. Just imagine knowing that a battle strategy that you came up with was literally extracted out of your mind and used to attack and subsequently assimilate an entire world. Worse, liberated or not, that knowledge would still be a part of the collective and being used to its favorr.
I'm just imagining what poor crewman had to go extract the floor plates with Van Mayter still stuck in them. And how that order was phrased. "Crewman Jones, we're gonna need you to, um... 'repair' these deck plates. Bring a mop.'
@@buckrodgers1162 I'd still like an explanation as to why Reg saw the officers trapped in the transporter as those absolutely horrifying creatures. I'm not sure if he was seeing the microorganisms enlarged because of the way the transporter handles matter, or if those were the crew members. Yeah. As someone who would NEVER submit to being atomically disassembled, that episode got to me. I felt for poor Reg.
That's a big part of what makes it so disturbing. It reminded me of what Q said to Picard in the Borg intro episode. To paraphrase: "Space exploration is fucking dangerous."
To quote Q from "Q Who" "If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross. But it's not for the timid"
Ah, yes. The only time ever known to man where 'floor' failed, because as everybody knows, 'floor' is the most indestructible substance in the Universe. A prime example is when Geordi and Ro were sprinting through walls and putting their hands into consoles - 'floor' remained solid.
The episode 'Night Terrors' where the crew killed each other reminded me of what happened to the crew of the Constitution Class U.S.S. Defiant from the episode 'The Tholian Web' where an area of space caused the crew of the ship to go crazy and kill each other where the Britain's captain was stabbed to death while the Defiant's captain died of a broken neck.
Okay, but Picard defending his ship and preventing the horrific things that could be done with the trilithium was a moment of him being a certified badass. It was Kingsmen stuff. Manners maketh man! And it proves his right to be captain. He should be able to make hard decisions and act with deadly force for the right cause.
I always forget how dark tng actually is because of the set and lighting, but lot of the episodes are pretty horrifying- in implication if not outright.
I'm not sure how "horrific" that death was. He probably disintegrated the instant he went into the stream. Any pain he experienced was probably very short if at all.
@@AVClarke That's not what made that one horrific, it was the whole premise of having your entire personality subsumed by an empathic memory and forcing you to do something you would never do normally.
Though technically not on TNG as a show, but if there ever was one for the TNG movies, there should be one for the undisclosed numbers of Ensigns and Lieutenants on board the E that had been assimilated and then killed by their captain.
A good audio. I couldn't bear to watch the visuals even though I've seen these episodes multiple times. 😦 And one of the more messed up deaths not happening to a Starfleet officer but during the TNG era was in season 2's "Loud As A Whisper", where Ambassador Riva (who was deaf, and played by real-life deaf actor Howie Seago) was on a peace mission; he had three "interpreters" (chorus) who telepathically read his thoughts and voiced his words -- on the initial landing, the three members of the chorus were killed by a disgruntled member of one of the warring factions.
I mean, studies have shown that prolonged sleep deprivation can lead to schizophrenia-like symptoms. Those studies, interestingly, were done on med students and residents.
Yeah, you hear that quick scream that suddenly stops, then you see her, eyes still open with an almost sad expression on her face. Right up there with the 'Transporter Accident' deaths in "The Motion Picture" 😰
I was gonna say what makes it really horrible… but I think maybe it’s already horrible enough. Crush and dismemberment deaths are truly nightmarish, though. For obvious reasons. The fact that they showed no blood almost makes it more troubling to me. How?
Oh it’s worse when you think that realistically, she should have still been alive and in horrific pain. People can _sometimes_ lose the lower half of their body and still survive with immediate medical intervention.
@@Thurgosh_OG Very true. That said, they were right there in a matter of seconds and she already looked dead. I mean with the level of medical technology they have, she probably could be revived and have everything replaced with prosthetics or vat grown replacements. Even today, you’d be able to keep them on life support for a while.
The parasite that Cmdr Remmick had is called the Bluegill. They are (at least in non-canonical text) a "servitor" race of the legendary Iconian Empire. It was known that the Iconians had races that acted as extensions of their own capabilities, and this was one of them. They were a sort of spy. They used their hosts as basically like a rider riding a horse. They invaded the victims brain and cerebral cortex and used them for work and locomotion. The brain was overridden by the Bluegill and it did lead to the eventual destruction of the host from damage to the brain and organs. Remmick however, had basically a Bluegill "controller" who telepathically was able to control the Bluegills and organize and process information from them to be sent via subspace to an unknown planet at the time (Speculated to be Vandros IV in the Gamma Quadrant) where an Iconian base was located by the DS-9 crew, and a contingent of Jem Hadar. It was not revealed if Sisko or Dax had discovered any information being sent from Earth to the Outpost by these creatures, nor was it ever revealed if Data had actually decoded what the Bluegills were sending.
@@leeroberts1192 I would say you are right. Considering the size of the creature, he probably was dead after infestation and was basically a sort of zombie. Sure the creature took over his brain, but it was probably what the creature had absorbed during its time in Remmick is how it was able to still communicate. If they had somehow managed to take him into custody still alive, any attempt at separation would have been impossible.
They should have made them the "big bad" in Season Three of Picard. Their choice didnt make much sense, and reduced the writing on the last few episodes on a solid season.
How about the episode "Parallels" when Worf keeps getting thrown between parallel universes eventually resulting in hundreds of thousands of Enterprises flooding into a universe? They figure out a way to send them, and Worf, back home, but one of the Enterprises is from a timeline where the Borg prevailed and tries to stop them. Riker orders the ship disabled, but that Enterprise is too damaged fighting the Borg and is destroyed. Killing everyone on board an Enterprise that was one of the few remaining outposts of humanity in their universe. Though, I suppose that ship's fate was probably reset at the end of the episode.
"Though, I suppose that ship's fate was probably reset at the end of the episode." Probably not. Just back to the Borg takeover universe and eventual death or servitude.
The episode "Cause and Effect" really confused me the first time I saw it. At the beginning the Enterprise is destroyed in a massive explosion then after the credits we see the Enterprise with the captains log.
One of the very few episodes of TNG I will no longer watch. I don't do well with that sort of horror visual, and since I was 12 when that episode first aired, it left an impact.
Unlike the rest of Starfleet Command, Remmick was doomed the moment Evil Mommy Critter chose him to be her host body. Was there anything left of his consciousness by the end? (And we had learned in the previous tie-in episode when he questioned the Enterprise crew, that he was one of the good guys. So unfair.)
I always feel like finding a drifting ship in TNG was like exploring a vault in fallout Looking through the abandoned halls piecing together what horrible event transpired here
What's really messed up about #1 is she was going the other direction from how she was facing, meaning that she had barely enough time to turn around before releasing her last breath. Also, I want to add that I feel ships should have emergency transporter capabilities in case of things like phasing floors or accidental airlock openings. It's kinda weird that's not a special feature when shuttles have emergency transporters to get you to safety in case of impending doom.
I thought her molecules had merged with the molecules of the floor. If so, I doubt that the transporter could have separated them out. It would be like trying to transport salt out of salt water.
@@stevenlitvintchouk3131 You seem to lack an understanding of chemistry. Salt water is just water with extra salt dissolved in it. The simple act of distillation can separate the two because they never actually merged. A chemical reaction is necessary to otherwise transform it into anything else. For instance, adding an electric current to separate the hydrogen and oxygen that make up the water molecule itself. Additionally, I wasn't implying after the fact. The computer knows where everyone aboard is on a moment to moment basis. It should also detect improbable things happening like a person falling into what's normally a solid floor. It could be programmed to automatically transport people out of unsafe environments fairly easily... At least in 24th century standards. And please don't get me started about transporter uses from episodes like The Schizoid Man or The Last Outpost. One had an away team beam down in a way in which they were momentarily inside a wall. The other had an away team member materialize with their foot embedded in rock.
Varron-T disruptor death in "The Most Toys", left me a bit disturbed for a long time as a kid, with the screaming and vaporising. I also think Riker disintegrating Yuta in "The Vengeance Factor" having 'gotten to know her' earlier in the episode was bit messed up....
Not even counting "alternate universe" and "reset timeline" deaths, the number of fatalities on the *FAMILIES CARRIED ALONG* Enterprise-D was astoundingly frightening. Over 7 years of "peacetime exploration," *NOT* counting Borg attack episodes, the Enterprise-D had more deaths than the US Navy had aboard ships or ship-launched aircraft - ALL ships - from 1987 (the start of TNG) to the present - over five times the number of years. (And a period that notably INCLUDES the first Gulf War, the USS Cole Bombing, and the "Wars on terror" in Afghanistan & Iraq.)
3:45 I got really distracted here; the phrase is _"each_ one more brutal than the last." Beause that means it starts bad and keeps getting worse. "One more brutal..." implies the last one was really bad but one of the others was worse.
I wish that actors playing dead people in TV-shows and movies actually acted like a dead body does; no muscle tone in the face, etc. Everything goes limp, the mouth falls open, and so on.
loving Sean's new look, Ellie rocks it! Quick question if people from Britain are British, are people from Brattain, Brattish? In which case we now know Ruby Sundays nationality. I did expect n0 10 to be higher up, as that is so messed up and graphic by TNG standards
With how many re-runs of TNG I caught on cable growing up I thought I had caught up with all episodes; but there were some stuff here either never got to my country or maybe my brain just wasn't ready to process into memories....
There was also that episode where two of the crew were rendered intangible, along with a Romulan spy, and during a fight the Romulan gets kicked out into space without a space suit. Given that it would have been sudden decompression, it wouldn't be strange if he suffered from genuine explosive decompression, although thankfully we don't get to see that.
Missed a few; Varria getting disintegrated, the Lantree crew as others mentioned, as well as the poor souls who were in that cylinder of Enterprise that the Borg extracted in Q Who. Imagine being in your room or a corridor minding your business and suddenly you're being cut out and taken to the Borg ship, either dying on the way if you're lucky, or getting assimilated.
I've asked this before and I've yet to receive a satisfactory answer - or in fact any answer at all: Why "butt-bugs"? As far as we actually see in the episode, they enter the body through the mouth and take up residence at the brain stem. At no point were they seen or even mentioned entering through any other, umm... opening. So why does everyone insist on calling them "butt-bugs"? Is it a joke I somehow missed? P.S. I'm usually not much into poetry, but I may need to rethink it.
Not sure either, though the Blue Gills did play a big part in a season of Star Trek Online...so maybe certain facts about them were added or retconned? It's that or people think they're very similar to the alien parasites from the Stephen King novel "Dreamcatcher" that did enter human bodies via the anus.
I believe it is because the graphic if them in the human neck shows their gill, which sticks out of the neck and moves around, is the "butt-end" of the creature. So all you see is the bug's butt.
It’s a joke from “Lower Decks” (the show), a couple conspiracy theorists who appear in one episode mistakenly believe that’s the blue gills’ entry point.
Colonel Richie being stuck in the Royale for fifty years (basically in hell), and then having his hotel room basically becoming his eternal tomb, I think deserves at least an honorary shoutout. Granted his death wasn’t gory but, as Worf himself said, what a terrible way to die.
I wonder how they got the rest of Lt Mayyer out from between the decks, pretty sure a Transporter wouldn't work.... Also great to see Ellie doing more Trek Culture videos!
They could. But pretty sure they never do. ? I even vaguely remeber some redshirt suggesting it to fix some issue. But "Not possible.." according to senior engineer. Because reasons. I guess the main reason is reversed plot armour for redshirts. 😅
I remember watching TNG as a kid and the floor death freaked me out. The only one I found worse - and not sure if it counts as they didn't technically die - is where Geordi and the gang are investigating the dissapearence of some crew on an outpost and end up getting turned into invisible glow-in-the-dark monsters.
As honorific mention, the sudden and quick death of Tasha Yar by Armus in "Skin of Evil" episode. By the fact that it didn't only means the permanent demise of a protagonist, but also it happened in an unexpected manner; be killed inmediately and instantly, like if Tasha was a disposable pawn than an important crew member.
But you have to honor that she was Security, and even if she wasn't wearing the red shirt a sudden death was likely. At least it was instantly, not being painfully disrupted by Lee Meriwether "I am for Sulu" or having all of the salt drawn out of your body.
@@pault151 Well, i just want to says, that it would be cool if she would die fighting, like a last stand, or perhaps making the ultimate sacrifice, much like Mr Spock, as manner to says good bye to our commander of security. Making surprising and shocking see a protagonist being killed in a sudden and quick manner, like if she was a nobody, making that maybe Tasha's death can be considered a messed death in some aspects.
I love this show, and yet it's also terrifying how they also *really* seemed to also lean into the dark and disturbing areas. I don't think I'd have wanted to be on that ship with everything they kept having to go through. More than a few of those episodes gave me chills.
#1 Disturbed me the most, but so did the gal from "The most toys " when she was hit by the distrpturor THAT WAS SPECIFICALLLY BANNED because it was the a most horrific weapon created to prolong death, destroying from inside out in the slowest agony
I think in the episode Relics Scotty preserved himself in the transporter buffer, but he didn't go alone. He was accompanied by "Franklin" but after decades in the buffer his pattern had degraded to the point that he did not survive. I think that might be pretty gruesome to be "energized" in a transporter, and then to fade away into oblivion.
I can hear the conversation now… Geordi- “You remember that time the Captain went on a killing spree and murdered a bunch of people?” Worf- “Yes. That was a great battle.”
I remember that time with the "primordeal soup" and you know what? If I had been Picard, or any human for that matter and Q would have shown me that, I wouldn't have felt guilty or shocked in the slightest. Not when a Q, or *'this'* particular Q is around. Because when THIS GUY is around... everything just loses its meaning one way or another. And since Q was once confronted as to _"fearing"_ humanitys potential, or being unsure about wether he wants to like or loath humanity for that matter, I would have just thought that he, as usual, his very presence the most interesting aspect of it all. *_" So, are you glad or sad now? About humanitys demise at the hand of our little blunder? "_* In the realization of godlike beings most literally around... it kinda feels impossible for me as a mortal to feel responsible for *ANYTHING* at all anymore. Picard may very well be in a straightjacket in a rubbercell compared to Q next to him. Q can ( *_and will_* ) do whatever he likes and he has all the autonomy in the world. How can I feel like my existence still matters? I am an NPC in my own life next to him. And this otherworldly, godlike alien, is the maincharacter who controls everything and calls all the shots no matter how little I know about him or realize it. Never knew how to feel about Q's inclusion in the series. In a way it is interesting to meet a being of actual, godlike power. Kinda feels exciting & inspiring. But at the same time it also feels like - when one truly thinks about it - very disempowering and how little every single choice in one's own life truly mattered. Beings like that are often portrait as neutral and non-interefering. Which obviously isn't the case. In the moment their mere presence is identified, their very being is an interference of already irreversable inspiration or feelings of meaninglessness for one's mortal self. Q... controlls all, wether he likes it or not. Wether he wants it or not. And he... apparently is controlled by his collective. The collective of his godlike race, who in all aspects are gods too in that matter. Which means they control the entire universe of StarTrek. And everyone else only lives because the Q's are either indifferent to it or use the mortals as entertainment. No need to make movies, videogames and more... if you can just watch, giga-limited beings struggle through their everyday lifes. Which is exactly what Q does to entertain himself. And if you want to meet the one's who control *OUR* real world... with patience and time-investment, use the search right now for "Darryl Anka and Bashar". The godlike beings are already here too. Very real and very... "neutral". As if being here is not an influence too. 😉
Getting stuck in the floor is bad, and "Night Terrors" scared me half to death when it first aired, but Remmick's death in "Conspiracy" is absolutely number 1 on the list for me. The show is *usually* pretty bloodless, then suddenly there's a scene with gore effects you'd expect from a Fulci movie. And they showed that part on *commercials* for the VHS set you could order on TV back then.
I actually remember the "stuck in floor" death I saw 30 years ago. Like it's implied she's dead which means it's implied her body was replaced with whatever floor materials killing her.
It could be argued that the phase "cloak" wasn't illegal... It was a completely different type of technology. It didn't just hide a ship, it phased it out of normal space entirely. You can still hit a standard cloaked ship with a weapon if you know where it is. The phase technology would even have significant scientific value as well. You could enter into dangerous phenomenon and study them from the inside. Just don't call it a "cloak"... Just call it a simple Phase Shift Device or something. The fact it can be useful in combat situations is merely a happenstance.
Personally I never got why the Federation was still upholding their end of that treaty. It was pretty clear well before that season of TNG that the Romulans were violating it practically every other day.
@@MrGoesBoom It's more about pride and wanting to uphold morals and principles. Similar to the thought of... Is it ok for a police officer to break the law to catch a criminal? (Personally I would say no, as the idea behind a police officer and their position in society, is more important than catching a criminal. Or in other words an officer not violating their oath to society is more important than them catching any particular criminal... In theory anyway, how it is actually playing out in the real world is debatable)
@@jasonh4534 Comparing a police officer breaking a law to catch a criminal, to one government upholding a treaty with another government that's constantly breaking that treaty falls pretty short of the mark my friend
@@MrGoesBoom I didn't say it was a perfect metaphor or example... Only that it is more an matter of honor and principles. Basically, is it ok for you to ignore your honor and principles, just because someone else is not being earnest or honest in how they are dealing with you. Unfortunately you can't just ignore and not interact with the Romulans like you can some random person who may be a jerk. So if you want to uphold your ethical high ground, you have to just play the game smarter, not dirty. Don't try to put cheat the cheater as it were, just be so good they still can't win... Sure it's a dangerous game when it comes to galactic politics... But the Federation at its core is all about maintaining their ethical code, no matter the outside pressures.
@@jasonh4534 the thing is, there's no point to a treaty when one side isn't upholding their side of it. The Federation and the Romulan Star Empire were at war or close to it. The hostilities ended with the treaty. The point of a treaty is that both sides agree to end hostilities if one side does this and that, and the other side does this and that. The terms will vary depending on the conflict, the people involved, and just who the hell was winning or losing, etc. If one side decides they just aren't going to abide by their side of the agreement, then there is no reason at all for the other side to do so either, the treaty is null and void. Honor and ethics or being the bigger man has nothing to do with it
This is why I had a giggle at the cut scene from 'Picard' where Worf reveals he accidentally killed a real person he thought was a changeling. "I killed somebody who was innocent." :( Not the FIRST TIME, Worf!
Her scream from the #1 entry gave me nightmares as a kid. What's more terrifying is that she probably wouldn't have been dead when Geordi and the other guy came round but dying while half embedded in the floor.........
And we never really find out why all the 'Big Bads' in outer space are afraid of 'The Doctor'. We only really know about some of his Earth adventures and adventures with Earth companions. What did he do, out there, to make so many scared, to act against him?
I just keep thinking of one of the most messed up deaths on Voyager, which took place in Basics Part 2. Neelix and some poor crewman, came upon a pile of bones. Despite Neelix's speculation that it was probably meant to be a warning sign about what was in the cave near the bones, Neelix still told the crewman to pick up the bones before walking away. The poor crewman was then taken and presumably eaten by the creature residing in the cave. Neelix should have known better than to insist upon removing the warning sign.
When Wesley accidentally trapped his mother in a shrinking pocket universe, and every thing she knew slowly became deleted from all existence, and she is the only one who had preserved memories(as she was the only one in the pocket universe not actually part of the pocket universe).
An even more hunting thought about the floor fusion is that it is based on a (probably not) actual event. It was made into a film "The Philadelphia experiments" that has a similar thing happen to several crew of a battleship. The scenes in that film was inspired by various accounts, and likely quite a few spins on them, from the forties. If it sounds interesting, make sure it's the one from the eighties you watch. They made a new one recently that is.. not great to say the least. 😺
So, for the #1 entry - That's not what happened. The floor didn't open up and close in on her. She phase shifted into the floor. Meaning she wasn't crushed, she was merged with the floor.
is this what's referred to as "hardening of the arteries?" LOL
How the hell did they deal with that? Cover her with a tarp and put cones around her until they could stop at the next starbase and have that deck section removed and replaced so she could have a proper burial?
well, i imagine there is probably some transporter-adjacent repair tech that they can use to basically just teleport all the... parts... out 😂 how else does voyager repair some of their damage 😅
Didn’t this happen irl on a navy ship?
@@ironjavelin7482 The USS Eldridge, allegedly. The event is known as The Philadelphia Experiment. There was a movie based on it.
As a child, the lady in the floor was unnerving for me. That one stuck in my memory.
It scared the stuffing out of me as a child - even the Borg didn't scare me as much as that scene. It still freaks me out even now! What an awful way to go.
Even as an adult that one is still terrifying to think about. Imagine just going about your day, walking along a hallway you've walked down probably thousands of times during your regular job then suddenly you fall through the floor all Backrooms style.
But that's not the worst of it - falling down to the next deck would be painful and inconvenient, but you could just take a turbolift back up. No, halfway through, the floor not only resolidifies _inside of you,_ but your head stays above the floor so that you can see parts of yourself sticking out, feel the pain and realize that you're going to die for the minutes it takes your brain to run out of oxygen.
For all of our sanity sake and emotional well being, I think they did us a mercy by having Van Mayter die almost instantly instead of looking up at La Forge and begging for help _before_ dying. That would have been psychologically damaging in uncountable ways, although knowing the writers of the show at the time, they most likely _wanted_ to do that very thing and were overridden by the TV censors as being far to grisly for TV...
I always wondered how they removed her.
the idea comes from rumors of a secret project by the navy in WWII called the Philadelphia Experiment, it was an attempt to cloak a ship that went wrong somehow and men were stuck in the bulkhead or insane
It taken from a conspiracy theory called the Philadelphia Experiment, I was trying to explain what it was but google deleted it for some asinine/nebulous reason so you'll have to look it up on Wikipedia unfortunately :(
"They got an MP3 of their own doom!"
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The algorithm knows.
I wouldn't know... I use the 'Brave' browser and it removes youtube ads ⛅🌈
Van Mayter's death always reminded me of the Philadelphia Experiment (1984) where the warship rematerialized with crew members embedded in the deck.
Her death very much left an impression on me in a way others haven't, the way the actress's pose is just so 'normal' is chilling
I see I'm 6 days too late 🙂. I thought the exact thing when I saw the thumbnail. Its a small mercy that she died instantly, unlike the crew members on the Philadelphia😔.
@@johnmccnj Thankfully for her, Star Trek TNG had to be TV friendly for the time. Especially since her position in the floor, her heart, brain, and lungs would have been intact. No liver or kidneys (as I would assume they would been instantly destroyed base on her position) would bring about a slow painful death. Considering the adrenal glands being attached to the kidneys there would be no adrenaline to help with the pain and also without the adrenal glands, there would be no chance of shock either.
I thought the same thing! I remember first seeing in pictures in Fangoria at the time.
@@johnmccnjyes those men on the uss Eldridge died because they phased at different rates the the steel plates, bulkheads of the ship itself. Humans are composed of mostly lighter elements than a ship, hence the different phasing speeds.
I'd argue that anyone assimilated by the Borg suffered a fate worse than death...as literally everyone who ever managed to be freed from that fate will tell you. But considering how fleetingly few people come back from Borg assimilation, it might as will be called "death."
"Anaesthesia is futile."
Yet most of them want to go back though. Even if not always for nostalgic reasons alone.
Actually, that's a good point. We know how much awareness drones have of themselves prior to assimilation, so imagine the terror of the drones when they're forced by the Collective into a combat situation and get mercilessly gunned down, and thanks to the implants, they don't get the mercy of passing out from pain and feel every neuron shutting down as they die.
I agree. They basically became Democrats.
What makes it all the more traumatic for those who have been liberated is the knowledge that the collective used everything that they know to hurt innocent people. Just imagine knowing that a battle strategy that you came up with was literally extracted out of your mind and used to attack and subsequently assimilate an entire world. Worse, liberated or not, that knowledge would still be a part of the collective and being used to its favorr.
As would the memory of actually putting that knowledge, or someone elses, to use. 😬
Lets not forget when Nagilum just horrifically killed a bridge officer.
ooh that's a good one, mainly thanks to that actor's incredible and memorable portrayal! As a kid, that death definitely haunted me.
Yeah they just basically gave him 1,000 brain aneurysms all at once. Looked unimaginably excruciating.
@@BrowncoatFairybeat me to it - that’s number 1 for me
Ah yes, the “too much stress” meme guy.
Too bad Wesley's shift was over...😏
"Boldly go where no one has gone before." Just hopefully not halfway into the floor...
I'm just imagining what poor crewman had to go extract the floor plates with Van Mayter still stuck in them. And how that order was phrased. "Crewman Jones, we're gonna need you to, um... 'repair' these deck plates. Bring a mop.'
You guys put Sean's name in front of Ellie by accident. 😩
Last minute substitution, perhaps? Seán may have suddenly been called away for a new uniform fitting.
Nah, Seán is cosplaying as Ellie 😂
@@JonMorris_0 Goodness, the accent is impeccable!
WOULD SOMEONE GET HER A MASTERPIECE SCRIPT
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Yup, polymerisation and floor embedding haunted me as a kid.
You know why this is a TNG-only list? Because if it was all Trek, we all know the transporter failure in STTMP would be number 1. And also number 2.
Yeah, that one was super messed up. Kinda makes McCoy's reluctance to use the things seem a lot more reasonable and sane
"What we got back... didn't live long."
The description in the novelization is brutal as well.
That one would be the Top 5 - as in it would be all 5 slots.
@@MrGoesBoom,
Not to mention Reg. And in fact, when he did go through the transporter, had his own little nightmare.
@@buckrodgers1162 I'd still like an explanation as to why Reg saw the officers trapped in the transporter as those absolutely horrifying creatures.
I'm not sure if he was seeing the microorganisms enlarged because of the way the transporter handles matter, or if those were the crew members.
Yeah. As someone who would NEVER submit to being atomically disassembled, that episode got to me.
I felt for poor Reg.
That lady in the floor happens SO randomly in an otherwise chill episode.
That's a big part of what makes it so disturbing. It reminded me of what Q said to Picard in the Borg intro episode. To paraphrase: "Space exploration is fucking dangerous."
It looked like a reference to the Philadelphia Experiment with the USS Eldridge.
To quote Q from "Q Who"
"If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross. But it's not for the timid"
Ah, yes. The only time ever known to man where 'floor' failed, because as everybody knows, 'floor' is the most indestructible substance in the Universe. A prime example is when Geordi and Ro were sprinting through walls and putting their hands into consoles - 'floor' remained solid.
Even as a kid I was like, how are they bouncing off the floor but they just shot that Romulan clean into space... Through the bulkhead.
Normally when floor fails and doesn't subsequently unfail
@@duncanb1506 (thump thump thump)
The miracle of gravitons generated by the grav-plating.
@arbjbornk I like that reasoning. But what about Obi-Wan sitting on that log thought, like, what's his deal?
and AFTER I watched this list = Where's Varia's death in 'The Most Toys'???????
They also missed the crew of the USS Lantree.
That's a good one. The weapon was outlawed explicitly because it was so painful. (although to be honest it was pretty dang quick).
Thank you! She was destroyed from the inside out.
@@BrowncoatFairyProbably not as quick for the person being burned alive from the inside out.
Um, number 11?
The Voyager list should be fun
The episode 'Night Terrors' where the crew killed each other reminded me of what happened to the crew of the Constitution Class U.S.S. Defiant from the episode 'The Tholian Web' where an area of space caused the crew of the ship to go crazy and kill each other where the Britain's captain was stabbed to death while the Defiant's captain died of a broken neck.
Okay, but Picard defending his ship and preventing the horrific things that could be done with the trilithium was a moment of him being a certified badass. It was Kingsmen stuff. Manners maketh man! And it proves his right to be captain. He should be able to make hard decisions and act with deadly force for the right cause.
So many people forget just how terrifying Picard can be when he let's go of his self-restraint...
He CAN live with it.
I always forget how dark tng actually is because of the set and lighting, but lot of the episodes are pretty horrifying- in implication if not outright.
#2 Lt. Hagler: Picard's Captain's Log said everyone was safe and sound...until Riker reminded Picard about Hagler in the tag of the episode.
I caught that myself when watching the episode and wondered why Picard didn't mention it himself.
How about Lieutenant Daniel Kwan jumping into the plasma injector from an empathic echo in episode 18 season 7 "Eye of the Beholder"
You have my vote. Yikes!
I'm not sure how "horrific" that death was. He probably disintegrated the instant he went into the stream. Any pain he experienced was probably very short if at all.
@@AVClarke That's not what made that one horrific, it was the whole premise of having your entire personality subsumed by an empathic memory and forcing you to do something you would never do normally.
How about the deaths of everyone on the USS Lantree of artificially caused old age?
#1 - I saw that when it came out, as a teenager, and it's bothered me ever since.
Though technically not on TNG as a show, but if there ever was one for the TNG movies, there should be one for the undisclosed numbers of Ensigns and Lieutenants on board the E that had been assimilated and then killed by their captain.
Especially the one that begged for help.
"The rescue in rescue party is moot in this instance."
Now it's a party! *music starts playing*
Poor Ellie not even getting credited properly.
And in today's video about the Lost Ear, it's Sean who get the same treatment!
Now they have to display Ellie's contact in the next vid that Sean hosts to even things out!
@@TAURON85 that's what they did today.
Call it payback for her annoying and overly loud voice!
Sean looks different nowadays
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Accents changed a bit, as well
A good audio. I couldn't bear to watch the visuals even though I've seen these episodes multiple times. 😦
And one of the more messed up deaths not happening to a Starfleet officer but during the TNG era was in season 2's "Loud As A Whisper", where Ambassador Riva (who was deaf, and played by real-life deaf actor Howie Seago) was on a peace mission; he had three "interpreters" (chorus) who telepathically read his thoughts and voiced his words -- on the initial landing, the three members of the chorus were killed by a disgruntled member of one of the warring factions.
I mean, studies have shown that prolonged sleep deprivation can lead to schizophrenia-like symptoms. Those studies, interestingly, were done on med students and residents.
I absolutely love that you brought up the Miller Urey experiments :D
Lovely!
"Where Silence Has Lease" Poor Ens Haskell after meeting Nagilum.
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Nagilum was really Beaver Cleaver and he finally got back at Eddie Haskell. 😺😺😺
Damn shame Wesley's shift was over...😉
Lt Van Mayter took it a bit too literally when Picard told her that he expected her to become part of the crew and this vessel
oh the thumbnail death ALWAYS fucked me up. the character's death mask is like, pure sadness. "Ah man I can't believe I'm a statistic."
Yeah, you hear that quick scream that suddenly stops, then you see her, eyes still open with an almost sad expression on her face.
Right up there with the 'Transporter Accident' deaths in "The Motion Picture" 😰
I was gonna say what makes it really horrible… but I think maybe it’s already horrible enough. Crush and dismemberment deaths are truly nightmarish, though. For obvious reasons. The fact that they showed no blood almost makes it more troubling to me. How?
Oh it’s worse when you think that realistically, she should have still been alive and in horrific pain. People can _sometimes_ lose the lower half of their body and still survive with immediate medical intervention.
@@falconwind00 Only some, for others the shock kills them before the injuries do.
@@Thurgosh_OG Very true. That said, they were right there in a matter of seconds and she already looked dead.
I mean with the level of medical technology they have, she probably could be revived and have everything replaced with prosthetics or vat grown replacements. Even today, you’d be able to keep them on life support for a while.
The parasite that Cmdr Remmick had is called the Bluegill. They are (at least in non-canonical text) a "servitor" race of the legendary Iconian Empire. It was known that the Iconians had races that acted as extensions of their own capabilities, and this was one of them. They were a sort of spy. They used their hosts as basically like a rider riding a horse. They invaded the victims brain and cerebral cortex and used them for work and locomotion. The brain was overridden by the Bluegill and it did lead to the eventual destruction of the host from damage to the brain and organs.
Remmick however, had basically a Bluegill "controller" who telepathically was able to control the Bluegills and organize and process information from them to be sent via subspace to an unknown planet at the time (Speculated to be Vandros IV in the Gamma Quadrant) where an Iconian base was located by the DS-9 crew, and a contingent of Jem Hadar. It was not revealed if Sisko or Dax had discovered any information being sent from Earth to the Outpost by these creatures, nor was it ever revealed if Data had actually decoded what the Bluegills were sending.
Given the size of the "mother creature" I think Remmick was effectively dead for a while before hand. It must have eaten all his internal organs.
@@leeroberts1192 I would say you are right. Considering the size of the creature, he probably was dead after infestation and was basically a sort of zombie. Sure the creature took over his brain, but it was probably what the creature had absorbed during its time in Remmick is how it was able to still communicate. If they had somehow managed to take him into custody still alive, any attempt at separation would have been impossible.
@@leeroberts1192 I think your right the mother creature was huge and no doubt he died soon after the infestation started....
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They should have made them the "big bad" in Season Three of Picard. Their choice didnt make much sense, and reduced the writing on the last few episodes on a solid season.
"3 is the magic number"? I see what you did there Ellie = Good Job = I wished more people knew about Schoolhouse Rock.
@charlesjohnson7458, Schoolhouse Rock saved my bacon on more than 1 occasion in Grade school👍
It sure made memorizing the Preamble to the Constitution a whole lot easier.
How about the episode "Parallels" when Worf keeps getting thrown between parallel universes eventually resulting in hundreds of thousands of Enterprises flooding into a universe?
They figure out a way to send them, and Worf, back home, but one of the Enterprises is from a timeline where the Borg prevailed and tries to stop them. Riker orders the ship disabled, but that Enterprise is too damaged fighting the Borg and is destroyed. Killing everyone on board an Enterprise that was one of the few remaining outposts of humanity in their universe.
Though, I suppose that ship's fate was probably reset at the end of the episode.
"Though, I suppose that ship's fate was probably reset at the end of the episode." Probably not. Just back to the Borg takeover universe and eventual death or servitude.
The episode "Cause and Effect" really confused me the first time I saw it. At the beginning the Enterprise is destroyed in a massive explosion then after the credits we see the Enterprise with the captains log.
Holy Photons! How is Remmick number TEN! that was like the most horrific thing I'd seen on TV (although I had seen Scanners on VHS!)
that episode actually faced censorship for how gross it was originally.
@@frankfuller975 yeah BBC2 showed a 'family friendly' version initially.
One of the very few episodes of TNG I will no longer watch. I don't do well with that sort of horror visual, and since I was 12 when that episode first aired, it left an impact.
@@frankfuller975I was about to ask if I was remembering correctly regarding the scene being censored years ago.
Unlike the rest of Starfleet Command, Remmick was doomed the moment Evil Mommy Critter chose him to be her host body. Was there anything left of his consciousness by the end? (And we had learned in the previous tie-in episode when he questioned the Enterprise crew, that he was one of the good guys. So unfair.)
I always feel like finding a drifting ship in TNG was like exploring a vault in fallout
Looking through the abandoned halls piecing together what horrible event transpired here
Damn, Sean has changed quite a bit 😱
I can't imagine how Starfleet officers/ensigns can just cope with all the wild things they experience
I first saw Number 1 on this list as a kid and it scarred me. Etched into my memory forever.
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Glad to see I'm not the only one.
What's really messed up about #1 is she was going the other direction from how she was facing, meaning that she had barely enough time to turn around before releasing her last breath.
Also, I want to add that I feel ships should have emergency transporter capabilities in case of things like phasing floors or accidental airlock openings. It's kinda weird that's not a special feature when shuttles have emergency transporters to get you to safety in case of impending doom.
I thought her molecules had merged with the molecules of the floor. If so, I doubt that the transporter could have separated them out. It would be like trying to transport salt out of salt water.
@@stevenlitvintchouk3131 You seem to lack an understanding of chemistry. Salt water is just water with extra salt dissolved in it. The simple act of distillation can separate the two because they never actually merged. A chemical reaction is necessary to otherwise transform it into anything else. For instance, adding an electric current to separate the hydrogen and oxygen that make up the water molecule itself.
Additionally, I wasn't implying after the fact. The computer knows where everyone aboard is on a moment to moment basis. It should also detect improbable things happening like a person falling into what's normally a solid floor. It could be programmed to automatically transport people out of unsafe environments fairly easily... At least in 24th century standards.
And please don't get me started about transporter uses from episodes like The Schizoid Man or The Last Outpost. One had an away team beam down in a way in which they were momentarily inside a wall. The other had an away team member materialize with their foot embedded in rock.
Varron-T disruptor death in "The Most Toys", left me a bit disturbed for a long time as a kid, with the screaming and vaporising. I also think Riker disintegrating Yuta in "The Vengeance Factor" having 'gotten to know her' earlier in the episode was bit messed up....
Not even counting "alternate universe" and "reset timeline" deaths, the number of fatalities on the *FAMILIES CARRIED ALONG* Enterprise-D was astoundingly frightening. Over 7 years of "peacetime exploration," *NOT* counting Borg attack episodes, the Enterprise-D had more deaths than the US Navy had aboard ships or ship-launched aircraft - ALL ships - from 1987 (the start of TNG) to the present - over five times the number of years. (And a period that notably INCLUDES the first Gulf War, the USS Cole Bombing, and the "Wars on terror" in Afghanistan & Iraq.)
3:45 I got really distracted here; the phrase is _"each_ one more brutal than the last." Beause that means it starts bad and keeps getting worse. "One more brutal..." implies the last one was really bad but one of the others was worse.
You have the best voice for naration I have ever heard
0:43 - Are you Sean or Ellie? I'm confused...
Selliean. They got Tuvix'd.
10:40 "I shot a spooky doppelganger of a man" skaramouche skaramouche can you do the fandango?
I wish that actors playing dead people in TV-shows and movies actually acted like a dead body does; no muscle tone in the face, etc. Everything goes limp, the mouth falls open, and so on.
You reminded me of that episode that was just Die Hard on the Enterprise. Thank you.
Ellie! Tons of love for TrekCulture.
This list needs a part 2.
loving Sean's new look, Ellie rocks it! Quick question if people from Britain are British, are people from Brattain, Brattish? In which case we now know Ruby Sundays nationality. I did expect n0 10 to be higher up, as that is so messed up and graphic by TNG standards
Brattain or Brittain?
0:32 The actors' make-up is so bad that it causes fits of laughter.
With how many re-runs of TNG I caught on cable growing up I thought I had caught up with all episodes; but there were some stuff here either never got to my country or maybe my brain just wasn't ready to process into memories....
There was also that episode where two of the crew were rendered intangible, along with a Romulan spy, and during a fight the Romulan gets kicked out into space without a space suit. Given that it would have been sudden decompression, it wouldn't be strange if he suffered from genuine explosive decompression, although thankfully we don't get to see that.
Missed a few; Varria getting disintegrated, the Lantree crew as others mentioned, as well as the poor souls who were in that cylinder of Enterprise that the Borg extracted in Q Who. Imagine being in your room or a corridor minding your business and suddenly you're being cut out and taken to the Borg ship, either dying on the way if you're lucky, or getting assimilated.
"Going thu a phase"!!?!!😅 ur comedy is on point! Thank u Ellie ❤
I've asked this before and I've yet to receive a satisfactory answer - or in fact any answer at all:
Why "butt-bugs"?
As far as we actually see in the episode, they enter the body through the mouth and take up residence at the brain stem. At no point were they seen or even mentioned entering through any other, umm... opening. So why does everyone insist on calling them "butt-bugs"? Is it a joke I somehow missed?
P.S. I'm usually not much into poetry, but I may need to rethink it.
Not sure either, though the Blue Gills did play a big part in a season of Star Trek Online...so maybe certain facts about them were added or retconned?
It's that or people think they're very similar to the alien parasites from the Stephen King novel "Dreamcatcher" that did enter human bodies via the anus.
I believe it is because the graphic if them in the human neck shows their gill, which sticks out of the neck and moves around, is the "butt-end" of the creature. So all you see is the bug's butt.
It’s a joke from “Lower Decks” (the show), a couple conspiracy theorists who appear in one episode mistakenly believe that’s the blue gills’ entry point.
Colonel Richie being stuck in the Royale for fifty years (basically in hell), and then having his hotel room basically becoming his eternal tomb, I think deserves at least an honorary shoutout. Granted his death wasn’t gory but, as Worf himself said, what a terrible way to die.
That image of Van Mayter embedded in the floor was at least as creepy as that of the faceless crewperson in the TOS episode "Charlie X".
This death totally freaked me out as a kid from her scream to her lifeless pose, yeeesh!
You are fantastic. Thank you for the video. LLAP 🖖
Solid poetry there, and those are definitely some cruel and unusual deaths.
I wonder how they got the rest of Lt Mayyer out from between the decks, pretty sure a Transporter wouldn't work....
Also great to see Ellie doing more Trek Culture videos!
Probably just replicated a razorblade but set the X-Y scale to 10x.
They could beam out that whole section of deck, then replace it.
They could. But pretty sure they never do. ?
I even vaguely remeber some redshirt suggesting it to fix some issue. But "Not possible.." according to senior engineer. Because reasons.
I guess the main reason is reversed plot armour for redshirts. 😅
oh the Varon T Disrupter death in "The Most Toys" was pretty horrible.
You missed one very grisly episode called, Where Silence has Lease. An entity was experimenting on death with the crew.
I burst out laughing at " 'I didn't sign up for this' face"
I remember watching TNG as a kid and the floor death freaked me out.
The only one I found worse - and not sure if it counts as they didn't technically die - is where Geordi and the gang are investigating the dissapearence of some crew on an outpost and end up getting turned into invisible glow-in-the-dark monsters.
^^THIS.
As honorific mention, the sudden and quick death of Tasha Yar by Armus in "Skin of Evil" episode.
By the fact that it didn't only means the permanent demise of a protagonist, but also it happened in an unexpected manner; be killed inmediately and instantly, like if Tasha was a disposable pawn than an important crew member.
But you have to honor that she was Security, and even if she wasn't wearing the red shirt a sudden death was likely. At least it was instantly, not being painfully disrupted by Lee Meriwether "I am for Sulu" or having all of the salt drawn out of your body.
@@pault151 Well, i just want to says, that it would be cool if she would die fighting, like a last stand, or perhaps making the ultimate sacrifice, much like Mr Spock, as manner to says good bye to our commander of security.
Making surprising and shocking see a protagonist being killed in a sudden and quick manner, like if she was a nobody, making that maybe Tasha's death can be considered a messed death in some aspects.
That was a very GoT death by TNG standards…
I think we've got to mention the 18 people vapourised/blown out/assimilated when the borg cut and slowly drag a section of the saucer out in Q Who
I love this show, and yet it's also terrifying how they also *really* seemed to also lean into the dark and disturbing areas. I don't think I'd have wanted to be on that ship with everything they kept having to go through. More than a few of those episodes gave me chills.
#1 Disturbed me the most, but so did the gal from "The most toys " when she was hit by the distrpturor THAT WAS SPECIFICALLLY BANNED because it was the a most horrific weapon created to prolong death, destroying from inside out in the slowest agony
I think in the episode Relics Scotty preserved himself in the transporter buffer, but he didn't go alone. He was accompanied by "Franklin" but after decades in the buffer his pattern had degraded to the point that he did not survive. I think that might be pretty gruesome to be "energized" in a transporter, and then to fade away into oblivion.
1:13 Haha, nice Lower Decks reference there!
This was an unexpected drop for Friday night; thanks all been a LONG week
I didn't know this channel existed until now, but it's nice to see a familiar face from one of the other channels.
I can hear the conversation now…
Geordi- “You remember that time the Captain went on a killing spree and murdered a bunch of people?”
Worf- “Yes. That was a great battle.”
I remember that time with the "primordeal soup" and you know what? If I had been Picard, or any human for that matter and Q would have shown me that, I wouldn't have felt guilty or shocked in the slightest. Not when a Q, or *'this'* particular Q is around. Because when THIS GUY is around... everything just loses its meaning one way or another.
And since Q was once confronted as to _"fearing"_ humanitys potential, or being unsure about wether he wants to like or loath humanity for that matter, I would have just thought that he, as usual, his very presence the most interesting aspect of it all. *_" So, are you glad or sad now? About humanitys demise at the hand of our little blunder? "_*
In the realization of godlike beings most literally around... it kinda feels impossible for me as a mortal to feel responsible for *ANYTHING* at all anymore.
Picard may very well be in a straightjacket in a rubbercell compared to Q next to him.
Q can ( *_and will_* ) do whatever he likes and he has all the autonomy in the world.
How can I feel like my existence still matters?
I am an NPC in my own life next to him.
And this otherworldly, godlike alien, is the maincharacter who controls everything and calls all the shots no matter how little I know about him or realize it.
Never knew how to feel about Q's inclusion in the series.
In a way it is interesting to meet a being of actual, godlike power. Kinda feels exciting & inspiring.
But at the same time it also feels like - when one truly thinks about it - very disempowering and how little every single choice in one's own life truly mattered.
Beings like that are often portrait as neutral and non-interefering. Which obviously isn't the case.
In the moment their mere presence is identified, their very being is an interference of already irreversable inspiration or feelings of meaninglessness for one's mortal self.
Q... controlls all, wether he likes it or not.
Wether he wants it or not.
And he... apparently is controlled by his collective.
The collective of his godlike race, who in all aspects are gods too in that matter.
Which means they control the entire universe of StarTrek.
And everyone else only lives because the Q's are either indifferent to it or use the mortals as entertainment.
No need to make movies, videogames and more... if you can just watch, giga-limited beings struggle through their everyday lifes.
Which is exactly what Q does to entertain himself.
And if you want to meet the one's who control *OUR* real world... with patience and time-investment, use the search right now for "Darryl Anka and Bashar".
The godlike beings are already here too. Very real and very... "neutral".
As if being here is not an influence too. 😉
Apparently I'm not the only one who saw the thumbnail for this video and immediately thought of the dude Nagilum killed in season 2.
Getting stuck in the floor is bad, and "Night Terrors" scared me half to death when it first aired, but Remmick's death in "Conspiracy" is absolutely number 1 on the list for me. The show is *usually* pretty bloodless, then suddenly there's a scene with gore effects you'd expect from a Fulci movie. And they showed that part on *commercials* for the VHS set you could order on TV back then.
I actually remember the "stuck in floor" death I saw 30 years ago. Like it's implied she's dead which means it's implied her body was replaced with whatever floor materials killing her.
11:54 ...O'Brien's path of suffering starts here....XD
Im pretty sure she could of survived the floor for a while since all her important bits where above the floor.
picard had a kill count bigger than kirk.
he was cold blooded in starship mine.
It could be argued that the phase "cloak" wasn't illegal... It was a completely different type of technology.
It didn't just hide a ship, it phased it out of normal space entirely.
You can still hit a standard cloaked ship with a weapon if you know where it is.
The phase technology would even have significant scientific value as well. You could enter into dangerous phenomenon and study them from the inside.
Just don't call it a "cloak"... Just call it a simple Phase Shift Device or something. The fact it can be useful in combat situations is merely a happenstance.
Personally I never got why the Federation was still upholding their end of that treaty. It was pretty clear well before that season of TNG that the Romulans were violating it practically every other day.
@@MrGoesBoom It's more about pride and wanting to uphold morals and principles.
Similar to the thought of... Is it ok for a police officer to break the law to catch a criminal?
(Personally I would say no, as the idea behind a police officer and their position in society, is more important than catching a criminal. Or in other words an officer not violating their oath to society is more important than them catching any particular criminal... In theory anyway, how it is actually playing out in the real world is debatable)
@@jasonh4534 Comparing a police officer breaking a law to catch a criminal, to one government upholding a treaty with another government that's constantly breaking that treaty falls pretty short of the mark my friend
@@MrGoesBoom I didn't say it was a perfect metaphor or example...
Only that it is more an matter of honor and principles. Basically, is it ok for you to ignore your honor and principles, just because someone else is not being earnest or honest in how they are dealing with you.
Unfortunately you can't just ignore and not interact with the Romulans like you can some random person who may be a jerk. So if you want to uphold your ethical high ground, you have to just play the game smarter, not dirty.
Don't try to put cheat the cheater as it were, just be so good they still can't win...
Sure it's a dangerous game when it comes to galactic politics... But the Federation at its core is all about maintaining their ethical code, no matter the outside pressures.
@@jasonh4534 the thing is, there's no point to a treaty when one side isn't upholding their side of it. The Federation and the Romulan Star Empire were at war or close to it. The hostilities ended with the treaty. The point of a treaty is that both sides agree to end hostilities if one side does this and that, and the other side does this and that. The terms will vary depending on the conflict, the people involved, and just who the hell was winning or losing, etc.
If one side decides they just aren't going to abide by their side of the agreement, then there is no reason at all for the other side to do so either, the treaty is null and void. Honor and ethics or being the bigger man has nothing to do with it
This is why I had a giggle at the cut scene from 'Picard' where Worf reveals he accidentally killed a real person he thought was a changeling.
"I killed somebody who was innocent." :(
Not the FIRST TIME, Worf!
Her scream from the #1 entry gave me nightmares as a kid.
What's more terrifying is that she probably wouldn't have been dead when Geordi and the other guy came round but dying while half embedded in the floor.........
And they let families and kids fly on this cursed ship!
Seán Ferrick? Crew of the Brattain? You may be overworking poor Tom.
I was thinking about a list of Messed up Deaths in "Doctor Who" by a Top 10 would not suffice, because there are far too many.
And we never really find out why all the 'Big Bads' in outer space are afraid of 'The Doctor'. We only really know about some of his Earth adventures and adventures with Earth companions. What did he do, out there, to make so many scared, to act against him?
I just keep thinking of one of the most messed up deaths on Voyager, which took place in Basics Part 2. Neelix and some poor crewman, came upon a pile of bones. Despite Neelix's speculation that it was probably meant to be a warning sign about what was in the cave near the bones, Neelix still told the crewman to pick up the bones before walking away. The poor crewman was then taken and presumably eaten by the creature residing in the cave. Neelix should have known better than to insist upon removing the warning sign.
Pretty interesting (logical) video😊👍
When Wesley accidentally trapped his mother in a shrinking pocket universe, and every thing she knew slowly became deleted from all existence, and she is the only one who had preserved memories(as she was the only one in the pocket universe not actually part of the pocket universe).
Where's the Ogawa video, guys? I'm not gonna stop asking.
How am i JUST finding this channel!
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The death pictured in the thumbnail image coined the phrase:
"(So-&-so) was absolutely FLOORED!" 🤣
An even more hunting thought about the floor fusion is that it is based on a (probably not) actual event. It was made into a film "The Philadelphia experiments" that has a similar thing happen to several crew of a battleship.
The scenes in that film was inspired by various accounts, and likely quite a few spins on them, from the forties.
If it sounds interesting, make sure it's the one from the eighties you watch. They made a new one recently that is.. not great to say the least. 😺
Barclay as a spider is still hilarious.
“Aw sweet, horrors beyond my comprehension”
But in all seriousness, I really have to watch this series.