Battery Dies Overnight - Used Car Guy Special!
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
- Ahhhh the used car special! On this installment of "this old auction car," Eric O. tracks down a parasitic draw on a 2009 Chrysler Town and Country that he has no history on. Using conventional methods wasnn't working as good as he liked so he had to do a little thinking outside the box. Remember folks, follow the facts not your gut or a hunch! -Enjoy!
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For me the journey to the diagnosis is in most cases the bigger learning part of the video than the repair. Taking things apart & putting them back together I can do, diagnosing the root cause AND identifying the actual faulty component is the true art. Thank you for taking me & all your viewers along for the ride Eric!
That's why I watch Eric and Ivan. If you don't know Ivan, I suggest checking out his channel. Pine hollow auto diagnostics. He's got amazing content and I promise you will learn a lot.
Anybody can replace a component, only a real Tech can diagnose which component to replace
Maybe all my customers are actually used car guys. When in doubt yank it out!
That can get you arrested in several states sir 😆
I'm a 55 year old high functioning Autistic grandma who always enjoys the diagnosis of vehicle problems. it's because of you that I was able to take off the plenum on my 2004 Hyundai Sonata and reach the spark plugs to change them. I did it myself and I was so proud of myself. keep the videos coming. Thank you for all the hard work you do. love your family. may God keep you all forever safe.
Nice work
Go Grandma.
I think you've very cool! Great job!
Go for it!
WELL SAID!🙂
*"Everything is hot, including my WIFE, but that has nothing to do with the problem!*
Best line ever!
Congratulations on your successful RUclips channel! Enjoy every video!
He’s not wrong 🦊
Ya, she is awesome and you gotta be paying close attention, cause he slips in those one liners when you least expect it. When Eric decides to hang up his wrenches, he could teach at the local trade school, and have 100 students hanging on every sentence.
@@slatsgrobneck7515 if they put their phones away.
He's right though...
Well said, 😁 Congrats Eric🌘🌒
Smart diagnose! Next step is reading the canbus
“The TIPM is hot, the radio’s hot, my wife is hot”, and my coffee came out of my mouth and i lost it. You are too much my friend.
Your comments about being a broke used car guy was spot on. There are many “service guys” who have little or no respect for the ethics of sales guys. As a result these service guys want nothing to do with “selling” since they are compelled to be HONEST and TRUTHFUL. It’s in their DNA. However, you are exactly the guy I’d buy a used car from. Except a rust belt car, of course! I love everything about your videos. Keep ‘em comming.
My wife is hot is a great line.
Maybe he should ask Mikey Pipes to fix his house AC?
'The TIPM's hot. The Cluster's hot. The Radio's hot. My wife's hot...' Please send a replacement keyboard and monitor to me. They don't play well with coffee that's been expelled at a high rate...
You should write "J2 fuse" on a business card and tape it into the TIPM. LOL.
"TIPM is hot... Radio is hot ... My wife is hot... " - Classic SMA humour!!! You are the best Eric!!! 😁😁😁
WOW....AAH.... so close to the solution - but no ☹cigar !!!!! Just have to do things manually now !!! I agree, just do what we were hired to do - find the problem, give the fix, and let the customer decide !!!!!! That's how the cookie 🍪 crumbles !!! (Soon to be a mice problem 🐀 with them cookie crumbs) !!! On to the next one !!!!!! Well done 👍 Eric - and a "Hey" 🤓shout out to Mrs. O. !!!!!! 😃
How i used to do it,is unhook a battery cable end,hook a test light to it.It will light up with a ndraw on it,then start pulling fuses until the light dims down.See what that fuse goes to and start there.There's always .5 volts from the computer,but if pulling fuses does'nt work.Then it's usually an alternator or starter.
Very impressed from a consumer point of view. Amazing a "local" mechanic has this much knowledge across the board of all makes/models. A credit to his career.
Don't be amazed. It has nothing to do with location or training. It has to do with pride in work. Be mad 90% of techs have no pride or accountability.
@@RichardHeadGaming this is sadly true
Talked to a guy yesterday that used to work in the same dealership (chain) where I did my internship he has now moved to the sticks and seems to think the standard is higher there.
@@rimmersbryggeri Sadly you are 100% wrong, each tech sets the "Standard" on his or her own work regardless of location. I am a 30 year tech and my statement above stands and always will.
@@rimmersbryggeri unfortunately this is true also larger Chain shops don’t care about their customers and also they don’t have to worry about there rep as much as a “mom and pop” style shop because of the amount of customers the get were as the smaller shops have to fight them for their customers
My guy Eric up WAY too early today
You must not own a GSD 5:30 am, rain snow or shine 🐕
@@Dirtyharry70585 yep! Gsd here and every single day for the last 6 years 5:30 on the dot.
@@Dirtyharry70585 So mine isn't the only one who could tell time! She was often accurate to the minute for her routines. Smartest dog I've ever seen.
6AM ain't nothing 🤣 I'm at work by then.
The repair is nothing compared to finding the problem. You were asked to find the problem and make it stop. A lot of shops would not give the option of pulling the fuse, so I applaud you.
Nearing the *700,000 MARK* for subscribers!
*Well DESERVED!*
Glad to "know" you!
I always look forward to these virtual loafing sessions at the SMA garage! The time and effort you put into making these are greatly appreciated. THANKS from Indiana!
In the past on chrysler/dodge vans the harness where the doors rotate, found rubbed through wires or broken intermittent wires, those bundles are really tight.
Just my tiny brain tinking.
Glad to hear you all are all natural, no fake auto shop here with the O's
thank you all
Need a mechanic like this in north jersey. Nice diag doc!
Don't ALWAYS comment. But i ALWAYS watch your videos...
A big fan here..
Thank you Mr O
New York is lucky to have a service man with your knowledge and skills. So are we RUclips viewers. Thanks
The dabbing bunny on the thumbnail is brilliance.
Reminds me of an 88 4runner that had bad ground. Set codes for 5 different sensors. Added new ground and everyone happy.
Could have very well been the 1st time in the history of the planet that the phrase tip the TIPM was uttered....
Exciting times !!!
As you were going through the modules,and mentioned rear wiper, and the cycling it made me think the wiper shaft was sticking,trying to park.
I guess lift gate malfunction was a similar thing, sees door as not closed. And trying to finish the process.the tipm needs closure before it can sleep.
That iced tea aint too bad!
Yup. When I saw the list of modules, my first thought was a bad door switch keeping things awake. And it might still be the switch, I don't think he dug deeper to see exactly what the issue was. I guess he stopped when he reached the point of giving an estimate.
I've seen that rear wiper park problem before. This video reminded me of one I saw on another channel. They found a rear map light halfway between on and off. It kept waking up the radio and cluster.
We don't get to find out because used car guy said, that's enough.
Put it back together, open the fuse.
It's next buyer can pay if they want to play.
Too bad the original owner accidentally damaged wires back there or had a bad switch killing the battery which has lead to it being a trade or auction car after Repo perhaps.
You can damage a cars wiring loom under the carpet or at the hinge sometimes.
I had a shorted rear turn signal wire like that and we found it when replacing the carpet. A ribbon-like flat harness under the floor covering.
This guy helped me fix my Prius brakes. I couldn't get the emergency brake cable off it's holder. Eric cut the holder open, cause the new caliper had a new holder. I used my Dremel & did the same thing... Thanks Eric!!!
Great diagnosis
Great video. It seems to me that these cars from “used car guy” and the “auction car guys (one & the same, often?) are always unusual and interesting. You have the unique ability to take a weird mix of problems and sort them out. We all enjoy the journey. Thanks.
Marking the fuse was the best idea. I was starting to write a comment the new owner will stick a fuse and boom, now you got the problem back.
Once again Eric O has the magical "find the broken wire" after a short period in this case multiple wires drawing amp from the battery. Keep up the great and proud work ethic!! Thank you Mr & Mrs O!!!
I had this problem. Turned all the lights off in the shop. Found the ashtray light always on. I assumed there was a timer involved but I just powered the light from a different source. Old Buick and it worked.
Maybe I'm crazy, but I enjoy electrical diagnosis. Most techs don't want to be bothered as they don't have the patience to follow the facts. I enjoy following along with you as follow the facts to find the fault. Not many have the patience, but you do. Thanks for the video
What a talent for diagnosis. Very nice work, very nice work.
You lost me at “It’s a Chrysler”…. 😂😂
It is like working in a hospital and hearing the new patient with huge sores all over his body is addicted to heroin and meth. In theory both could conceivably be fixed. Also you could win the mega-lottery.
Chryslers can definitely be a handful to maintain.
I've used those types of fixes myself in the past. Like when you're on a long road trip and just need to get home. Had the hydro-boost go out on my Dodge Ram 2500 one trip. Once I realized what the problem was I put a diaper on the hydro boost weep hole (old T-shirt and tie down) to keep fluid from getting all over the place and bought a few quarts of power steering fluid. My wife and I finished the last two days of our road trip by staying off the brakes as much as possible and topping up the fluid as needed. Rebuilt the hydro-boost when I got home.
Decades ago in my garage I also had a car guy enlist my dead time services. Some of the problems that would come up to solve was fun and he was a pretty sharp guy that taught me a lots too. A great way to spend some dead time and have fun at the same time.
Mr. O turnin N burnin em out! Makin’ everyone better car guys! For real though, you’re a logic spreader and you’ve helped me be more logical about these moving beasts over the last few years, so thank you
Might sound super corny, but Mr. and Mrs. O got a great thing many probably envy. They've probably been married for what at least 20 years? Have kids, live together, work together, and still seem to have an awesome marriage in the honeymoon phase. Keep killin it!
Don't be too gullible lol.
@@giggiddy Adding a "lol" to the end of a snarky statement doesn't make it less snarky. Lol
They both have a great sense of humor which helps to prolong a marriage..
@@stevewhite3424 They are people like the rest of us and anyone who thinks they are on a perpetual honeymoon is probably fooling themselves. They should be proud of living and working together and remaining friends. That is impressive and certainly not easy. I'll end there but I admire what both add to the channel. Is it ok with you to add another "LOL?"
@@giggiddy Dude you use a lot of words to try to explain why you made a jackass comment. It was a comment that you would not have made to the poster's face in a million years but you feel perfectly safe to make do the anonymity of the Internet. Next time have the guts to say what you mean instead of your presumptive use of Snark. As far as how much laughing you do, I couldn't give a flying rat's arse but understand you're doing it to justify yourself not to Indicate a level of friendly humor.
Well done Mr 😎
add proximity key and now even more fun!
Great vid
What ever the used car guy is paying you it’s not enough Eric, your knowledge is exceptional great post as usual Eric
That process and Diag is next level stuff. Thank you for everything you have taught us.
I had a 2006 F150 doing the same thing! Only problem I could get to replicate, was the Battery going dead. Replaced the battery with a known good battery. Problem went away! 5 years ago still going good!
I understand you pain. U are a great mechanic. With a good Conscience
So thoughtful of you to put the fuse back in with the do not refuse message. 🙏
As a mechanic, I love watching your videos. There is always something to be learned in how to create a solid diagnostic process and STICK to it.
Smart diagnosis. Well done buddy
That's what you get when you purchase a car from the "Buy here pay here" used car lot. Your diagnostic videos are great. 👍
Dang, master mechanic and also a master electrician too! Very impressive disgnosis.
One of the most interesting repair videos I have ever seen!
Thank you for the video, Eric!
All these modules in these new cars. I hooked up my ThinkTool Pros to my 2000 Dodge 2500 Cummings today to check the system to prep for a trip. Three modules, no DEF, no Cat Converter, manual trans, no power windows or door locks, no nothing including no problems. I will keep this truck another 20 years.
Thanks for explaining how you tackled this electrical short. Like the way you worked backwards in the end once you determined most likely one of the open circuits was the cause, and removing the fuses worked. Never had to deal with this working my own car but this is great to know.
TIPM and Ship Em is a phrase thrown around the shop sometimes 😂, only halfway through the vid
Watching your videos has not only improved my DIY car repair ability but also my general household repair ability. Last night I flipped the switch for the garbage disposer and -- nothing. After checking whether it was jammed and finding it wasn't, I thought, "now how would Eric O. or Ivan approach this?" (Ivan did actually do a garbage disposer repair video once!) It's just like any other electrical problem. Sure enough, using what I've learned from your videos it took only a few quick tests to learn the switch had gone kaput. Replaced the switch and now it works fine (Ivan probably would have repaired the switch!).
Love auction cars! They are always interesting.
Excellent teaching lesson about the function of a canbus network in an automotive application and the kinds of faults and failures that type of network can experience. I despise all the computer control garbage intensely but when you explain whats going on it seems nearly as simple as checking out the brakes. Thanks for another great lesson 👍
My 2001 Cherokee had an intermittent draw from the wiring harness on the rear hatch. The boot that kept the wires clear of the hole in the cargo hatch that they came through broke so the wires would occasionally get a draw going on more humid/cold nights.
Nice work, Used Car sales men was the one group that I did not like dealing with when I was working at the dealership(s). Not your call.
"We work for the person that hires us." But we don't cheat for them. Thanks for sharing! Stay healthy!
I bought my nieces Volvo to fix and flip and it has a battery drain issue as well. Your episodes help me at least understand how to use the basic tools to trace down possible sources. Love the channel.
Thanks for being real and truthful. The world needs more like you in the repair biz
I typically setup a meter for dc amps and and use my probes to touch across the fuses. The reading is never correct because you are splitting the amps, but it will give you an idea of what is drawing power. You'll need a good meter with a low resistor for reading amps. Once I find the suspect fuse i can pull the fuse and go across the fuse terminal (make sure your leads are also fused to the same or lower value). This works 90% of the time.
As always, great video. Your diagnostic skills are 2nd to none!
You are very wise and informative. Good decision for the one fuse 👍
I learned that I need to add a magnifying glass to my toolbox. Love your channel!
For some reason I can never keep a mirror or magnifying glass from getting scratched to uselessness
With a light.
Use The Camera On Your Cellphone .
Zoom In.... x 2 ... x 5 .... x10 ... Take Photos Enlarge Them .... Etc
Use Light ....
@@cheesecurd100s Get some self laminate or cut to fit screen/lens protectors.
They get scratched too eventually but you just pull it off, clean it with some brake clean or alcohol and then put another one on.
Great diag , thinking outside the square and seeing the big picture shows why you are a top grade tech and mechanic . Sometimes with diags I can get overwhelmed with too many simultaneous problems after watching you and Ivan and Bernie Thompson,s thought processes on locating the primary problem I have had a couple of successful outcomes in my field of work thanks for sharing your knowledge and showing being patient and methodical can solve even the most difficult issue.
Iol n!z
You continue to amaze me on the electrical fixes.
How I wish I lived closer . Shops are not so honest and the good ones are hard to find..I turn wrench for a living now 2 old and have health issues well enough Eric you're a great inspiration very good at the work you do 100000 % truly amazing and blessed 🙌 😇
And the beat goes on ! Good diagnosis. Eric
You the man I plug my multimeter into the circuit and unplug untill I find the problem
I think it deserves to be said again that if you pull the fuse that powers a module and the draw goes away, that does not necessarily mean the module is bad! Especially door and lift gate modules. I’ve seen way, way too many instances where modules were staying on because there was an input switch that would change state and turn the module on. Latches, push buttons for unlocking the door or opening the tailgate are common faults.
As per usual, Eric just displayed his electrical genius. Well done
Thanks Eric for another great diagnostic video. Appreciate this one and all of them
I'm always impressed with your electrical Diagnostics and keeping your wife happy skills. I am surprised you didn't find a broken wire! Thanks for the video
Guys like you are few and far between, and a real asset to the community.
I really liked a subtle difference in this video - where you narrated in the intro what you did over the video you took during the initial diag. It's so cool to see the increased use of thermal cameras for electrical diagnosis! Great as always, Eric, and thanks!!
And here you are, still making things look easy, you are one heck of a technician thanks for the video.
Eric O’…You do all the Hard Work finding the Fault, so someone else can do the easy part! Great Video, as always!
The person will be back at your shop Eric once they buy it to get the lift gate fixed lol.
Everything with a park, would have been sus to me but I enjoyed your logical explanation 👍👍 Thanks for sharing
I had one of these not too long ago that had a pinched sliding door harness that was keeping everything from going to sleep.
Every once in s while it’s good to hear another upstate NY accent from a happy exile playing on the farm paying one tenth the taxes down south. Great work as always.
Originally from Amsterdam, now in Tennessee(with a totally non rusted 2000 Excursion with the big 7.3). No state income tax and no state vehicle inspections. Funny, we don't have crap cars running around either...
Please call it it’s proper name. It’s the PRNY. Lol
@@billmalec tax on food? Buffalo here
@@billmalec For every luxury car a politican uses twentyfife worker had to use crap cars.😁
Great job Eric you keep us learning.
I really enjoy your videos. Honest mechanic. I like the way you trees down the problem and fix it and do it right. You're an awesome guy.👊
Each video that you sharing is like a class because you show us a lot of information and technics. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge with us.
Wow, impressive diagnostic skills. Very thorough and well thought out.
Love the Cooper Tires sign sitting on the floor of the shop as a native of Findlay Ohio where their Headquarters and a tire plant reside. And of course another great video!
The usual approach here, looking for a single circuit failure, wouldn't have worked. Cool to see a creative approach! The only downside is the fact that the new mechanic will be scratching his head wishing he knew what you found. I love your 'do not replace' note. Who knows, maybe he follows South Main, ha ha!
Yeah when I initially looked at it and seen I had multiple fuses drawing and current draws that were irregular I decided we have to go a different route. And this was the best thing I could come up with. Right or wrong...
@@SouthMainAuto I had an automotive electronics teacher in the 90's. I remember he would call that a short to voltage problem. Your positive wires are smashed together somewhere. Cool video.
Well first off I have to Agree with you Eric, Mrs. O is hot! And yup no surprise that used car guy does not want to fix the real problem. Have a great weekend Eric and of course thumbs UP!!
I would have loved to see the fix..good video once again
I love, Love, *LOVE* the diagnostic processes you go through, and the fact that you're so very good at explaining them to us. It just a very satisfying feeling to know *WHY* something is broken, instead of simply seeing you throw a parts-cannon at it and magically fixing the problem somehow. No, you didn't get to fix this particular problem, but we know generally where it exists, and why the battery was going dead -- which is plenty enough for me. Thanks!
Yep, I agree. Eric's diagnostic skills are very impressive. Wish I had the same capacity.....
That was a great Diag. I like the way you figured this out.
It’s very interesting to see you thought process. The problem is the battery drains. The battery tested poor, the multiple draws (due to the multiple items on the interior CANBUSS being kept “alive”). The proof was removing the 30A fuse. The fix was (the the used car guy) was no fix. Not a problem. You found the problem. Maybe the poor sucker who buys that POS will invest in a new battery. Then he might see the gutted 30A fuse. Maybe he’ll get the “message in a bottle” (fuse?)…. And decide he really does want a power operated lift gate to be functional.
"Not all cars at the auction are bad, but...." Ha, that made my weekend... the rest is gravy.
"...why would a good car be at auction?" Somebody wanted to unload this shining example of automotive history.
I need another SMA fix so I'm watching this one again!
Thanks for sharing the troubleshooting knowledge and the process for people perplexed .I mr poynor enjoy your videos . Borrowed the little woman's computer to leave you a comment and compliment. Great Job !!!!!! Thanks again . Rocky
Got a 2010 Ford F150 with over 300k miles, recently had to get the transmission repaired (which wasn't too bad actually). The transmission lost Reverse in the middle of last month, so it sat without being cranked and the battery died before I got it into the shop. Got it out of the shop, transmission is running great, battery is still kaput. So, load the parts cannon and replaced the battery. All is well so far, but I _KNOW_ someone has diddled around under this thing because it has wires that have been cut in the harness, the harness is electrical tape more than it is OEM sheathing, fuses and relays missing from the power distribution box, over amp fuses in the power distribution box. To top it all off, come to find out that the DIY manual publishers are squeamish about publishing anymore, as if I wanted more frustrations in getting this truck back in shape and fully functional again.
wonderful diag skills and very smart leaving a note.
I retired from Cooper tire like that old sine . And in joy watching you .
A logical working man, far too rare of a breed. Oh and you have a great family, congrats on that!
Thanks Mr. O for another great video.