Lancia Y10 Turbo : The Complete Story

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  • Опубликовано: 4 ноя 2024

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  • @lucasbarton1773
    @lucasbarton1773 3 года назад +3

    Thanks for making this, I live in the UK and there is about 40 Y10’s left although they are cherished by their owners very much, I hope to own one one day, amazing little car!

    • @PirataDesign
      @PirataDesign  3 года назад +1

      Thanks to you for watching the video. It is a car that I have always liked, also for its madness.
      I have owned almost all the small sports cars (AX GT, Corsa A GSI, 7 Renault 5 GT Turbo, 7 + 3 Punto GT Turbo, Fiesta XR2i, Fiesta RS Turbo, 2 205 GTi 1.9, 205 Rallye 1.3, 205 GTI 1.6, all 106 sports not to mention hot-hatches ... you can see some of them in my videos). I've never had the Y10 turbo, but I've driven it many times: fun and bad, but it's also very dangerous if you don't know how to drive it

  • @preppy9539
    @preppy9539 3 года назад

    1988 Lancia Y10 Fila and 1990 Lancia Y10 Appia......love both...❤️❤️❤️🔥🔥🔥

    • @PirataDesign
      @PirataDesign  3 года назад

      the Y10s are cool and cool cars ... The Turbo was also very fast

  • @pgVeritas
    @pgVeritas Месяц назад

    I traded my 1978 HPE 2.0 (bought in 1982, as my first car after passing my test) for a 1986 Y10 Turbo. Mine was Bordeaux metallic with the matte black tailgate. (All turbos had matte black hatches). It had the electronic check, electronic heater controls, headlight wash wipe, front fogs and central locking, though it didn't operate on the boot! It was quite stealthy and was capable of frightening the shit out of jags on a motorway. You'd accelerate away and you'd see them squinting in the mirror trying to read what it was. It was so light, it accelerated really well. I got rid of it after loads of people told me it didn't suit me, buy I did have a load of fun. My next car was a Delta Turbo i.e. Which my ex-wife inherited when i took delivery of my 8v Integrale....those were the days....

  • @allseeing357
    @allseeing357 Год назад

    From the UK and first car was a 1988 Fire LX. Fond memories of it.
    We had it from about 3 or 4 years old and my brother had a good go at destroying it before I got it.
    Having central locking, electric windows and an alcantara dashboard was a novelty 😂
    Rust got so bad when it rained the horn would go off and it got to a point I couldnt open and close the tailgate for fear of lots of it falling off. The FIRE engine was incredible, still drove like a peach as the rest of the car disintegrated around it.
    I remember always yearning for a Turbo, but they were so rare even when Lancia were sold in the UK. A friend of a friend had one, that again was a bit ropey but mechanically v strong and by all accounts it was as mad as Id expected, think he sold it for fear of dying in it 😂

    • @PirataDesign
      @PirataDesign  Год назад

      Thanks for this testimony
      The Y10 was a good product, but it had a rust problem. it was well laid out and very tastefully designed and interior. The engine was also really excellent: the Fire, if it is properly maintained, is indestructible.
      In my part there are still some. The last one I had was in 2020: it was one of the last ones built, a limited series called "Igloo" and equipped with an air conditioner.
      It had the 54 HP Fire 1108 Cc engine. You can find 2 videos of this on my channel.
      the Turbo was really bad, it had excellent acceleration and an overbearing pickup, and it quickly reached 180 km/h. I got to drive it many times and, if you exaggerated, it was very difficult to keep on the road. in fast corners taken at high speed, he tended to get on 2 wheels !!!!
      And, despite this, I want one !!!!!
      Also the later GT.ie. it wasn't bad at all, it wasn't as fast as the Turbo, but it defended itself very well... on mountain roads it managed to worry much more powerful cars, but even it, if it exaggerated, could quickly end up flat.

  • @sinisalucic1996
    @sinisalucic1996 3 года назад +1

    Another gem of a car!

    • @PirataDesign
      @PirataDesign  3 года назад +1

      Very fast ....and very crazy.
      I have driven it many times: how much fun and how many scares ....
      The engine ran really strong and, contrary to popular belief, it was also reliable.
      The behavior was difficult to understand:
      it tended to focus too much on the front wheel and get up ..., but when you knew it ..... it riragava you with sensations that the cars of now no longer give
      I had the 4WD (find the video on the channel), but the particular layout of the rear suspension greatly improved the road holding

  • @slikbekrosbief1345
    @slikbekrosbief1345 3 года назад

    had one 25 years ago, made a big impresion thats why i drive a abarth 500 esseesse now and have a seicento sporting abarth on the side

    • @PirataDesign
      @PirataDesign  3 года назад +1

      The Y10 Turbo was an absolutely insane car, but for that it had an aura of respect and terror ....
      I have had many small sports cars (practically all the known ones ... plus some elaborate ones, like a Peugeot 106 Turbo with over 200hp and a Punto GT with 240hp ....), and the character of the Y10 Turbo was remarkable ... and its road holding required uncommon driving skills.
      Thanks for watching the video. I invite you to subscribe to the channel ....

  • @marmitacopalpexo9220
    @marmitacopalpexo9220 3 года назад +1

    Hey! It just came to my mind your video because of sometbing it apears on. In some part you say leather seats were never available. I just spotted an y10 turbo placed in italy and you can clearly see in the photos the leather seats...im curious to read your opinion.

    • @PirataDesign
      @PirataDesign  3 года назад +1

      For the first Y10 Turbo, in the brochures, leather seats appeared as an accessory on request. but in fact, officially, they were never available. But many artisans made them on request. probably the car was made in this way, or, much more likely, the seats of the '92 Y10 Ego were installed, which had a tobacco-colored Frau leather interior.

  • @Frenchie100
    @Frenchie100 5 дней назад

    Great video, and so much information!! :D I've always had a soft spot for the Y10, and I'm still considering going for one today... I wouldn't be driving it... dangerously fast(!), so I'd rather go for the GTi.e. - or maybe the FIRE LX1.1i.e. from 1989-1992. A question I've always had, and you seem the perfect person to be able to answer me, is: how would you describe the difference between the FIRE LX1.1i.e. and the GTi.e.? I remember reading from different car magazines that the GTi.e.'s Brazil engine was considered flawed: loud, rough (as in "not smooth"), not as reliable, higher consumption, ... They also criticized the suspension for "trying to be sporty", but that it still wasn't handling well, but had lost a lot of its ride comfort compared to the "regular", non-sporty Y10s. How bad was it? (those magazines, mostly German, may only have been overly critical to help protect the local brands?!?) While I recall the FIRE engine always getting lots of praise for its reliability, smoothness, low consumption etc. If you've experienced both, would you please be so kind and give me your take of Y10 GTi.e. vs FIRE 1.1i.e.? Both engine and suspension if possible! Which one would you recommend? Thanks, and again: great work! :)

    • @PirataDesign
      @PirataDesign  5 дней назад +1

      First things first: Thank you for watching and enjoying the documentary.
      Second: sorry for the translation, but I'm using Google Translate... so if any words seem difficult to understand, just ask.
      I have driven practically all versions of the Y10 (I also recently had a 1.1 Igloo from the second series - you can find 2 videos on the channel, one with all the details and one driving).
      I've driven the Turbo many times: it has an incredible engine, small but very mean, a bit "empty" at low rpm, but when it comes under pressure the turbo is really fun and revs quickly.
      At the time they had made a little gem.
      Its problem is road holding (think that it has small 155/70 13 tyres...): the chassis is practically identical to that of the other Y10s, which are not remembered for their stability...On routes that are not too fast, such as mountain roads, you can have fun, but you have to be careful because it picks up speed very easily anyway and you can find yourself tackling corners at speeds that are too high for that chassis and then the problems begin, because the passage It goes from understeer to oversteer really quickly and it's often almost impossible to get it straight again.
      proportionately it goes worse on motorways, because it has a high speed (180 km/h) and it also takes it quite quickly and tackling fast bends with that chassis and those high-speed wheels is an experience that I still remember with a mixture of fun and terror. at certain moments it seemed as if he was putting himself on 2 wheels....
      Ultimately, it is a car that must be driven with your head on your shoulders. If you drive it rationally and with the right driving skills it is fun, but you shouldn't expect it to be able to take corners like, for example, a Super5 GT Turbo....
      The GT i.e is much better than you think: thanks to the short-ratio gearbox it has excellent performance. When I drove it for the first time I had the Fiesta XR2i 1.6 and I can assure you that on curvy roads, the Y10 had the same performance. In terms of road holding, it is a little better than the Turbo, because Lancia had made some changes to the suspension, but if you drive hard, it shows the same problems as the Turbo.
      The 1.1 Fire was successful, it is an excellent compromise, because it does not lack performance (the engine is essentially the same one then used on the Cinquecento and Seicento Sporting, indeed, in the first versions, those of 1989, 1990, not being catalysed, it a few more hp and it allows you to have fun on the road, the chassis is, in my opinion, a little too soft and the original equipment tires (135/80 13) are ridiculous.
      Of all the Y10s I drove, the best was the 1.1 i.e. 4WD, as a chassis, works much better, it is more stable at the rear and cornering is safer. Furthermore, thanks to the short gearbox, it has excellent acceleration (I drove it many times and it was great fun. I had the first series of 4WD, the one with the Fire 1.0, but the 1.1 is superior in every way.An interesting version is the Touring, which was equipped with the "Brasile" 1050 127-derived engine, which was fine. but on balance a Fire 1.1 is better.
      The 1992 facelift versions, the ones with the slim headlights and rear license plate on the bumper, have a slightly improved chassis, are a little more stable and the steering was also better. But they have an almost perfect gearbox in terms of ratios and maneuverability (on the first series it is always a little hard and difficult to engage).
      This series had both the 1.1 (but catalyzed and therefore less brilliant) and the 1.3 mounted on the Elite version, which was almost as strong as the GT (it was a little quieter), had a better chassis and is very rare.
      How you consume; the Fire 1.0 is unbeatable. with care it can even do 25 km/litre. The 1.1 is just as cheap. If used calmly, the GT consumes little, if you always drive fast, consumption increases, but is never worrying. Separate discussion for the Turbo: going slowly it consumes like a normal 1.3 cc small car, but if you accelerate consumption increases.Finally, some advice if you have to buy a Y10: check the rust situation, because they are very sensitive cars to corrosion: the most critical points are the rear wheel arches, the windscreen and rear window frames, the base of the front windscreen pillars, where there are It is the front hood bracket and the sunroof frame if the car is equipped with them.Internally, the dashboard is delicate: on the first versions it cracks in some places, on the 1992 restyling it sometimes detaches from the supports and falls.
      Mechanically they are very reliable. I have seen Y10s with over 300,000 km that have never given any problems.
      I hope I have been of help to you

    • @Frenchie100
      @Frenchie100 5 дней назад

      @@PirataDesign Thank you so much! This was way more than I could hope for! :) Thanks for taking the time to write this extensive answer! I'm aware of the general rust problem - basically, of most similar cars of that era! - and I've been looking for "the gem" Y10 which I would probably buy on the spot, regardless of if it was a GTi.e. or a FIRE 1.1. I'm committed to the 2nd series (89-92).
      I live in Germany, where they started fitting catalytic converters earlier than in Italy, from 1989 onwards. So the GTi.e. which has 78HP in Italy only has 72HP, and the 1.1 has 50 instead of 57. The 1.1 increased to 55HP even with the catalytic converter, but only for the last year of production in 1995. That's why I was hesitant about the 1.1: even without driving it in a sporty way, 50HP is... less than I'd wish. (V Max: 150kph)
      So your answer does make me lean more towards the GTi.e. than the 1.1.
      If a) the GT doesn't lose too much ride comfort because of its stiffer suspension and b) there isn't a massive difference in reliability between the 2 engines, I'd rather have the extra power. :) But again: main thing is to find one in good condition! And here in Germany, they sprinkle salt on the roads when there's heavy snow, so I fear the rust problem is much worse here than it could ever be in your sunny climate! ;) Thanks again very much for your help! :)

    • @PirataDesign
      @PirataDesign  5 дней назад +1

      @@Frenchie100 I understand your choice.
      the 1.3 GT i.e. they are rare, at least here (something can be found every now and then), while the 1.1 ones are more common. An excellent choice could be to take the 1.1 and fit the Cinquecento Sporting gearbox which has short ratios and makes it go much better (the Y10 1.1 Fire has fourth and fifth gears that are too long).
      An interesting choice could be the 1.3 Elite from the 1992 restyling series, which has the same engine as the GT

  • @DraikerDS
    @DraikerDS 3 года назад +1

    Hi, I'm from Ukraine. I have got the same car Lancia Y10 Turbo from my father and want to restore it. I'm finding any technical documentation on this model but not successfull. Also some replacement parts are not avaliable in my country and I couldn't find any analogs here.
    If somebody could help me with any additional technical information/documentation I will be very thankfull.

    • @PirataDesign
      @PirataDesign  3 года назад +1

      Hi
      first of all, congratulations on your Y10 Turbo and your willingness to restore it
      Finding specific parts or documentation for that car is very difficult, but not impossible.
      Here in Italy, you can find something at the various exhibitions dedicated to historic cars.
      You can try and place adverts on these 2 sites:
      autobelle.it / subito.it
      One specializes in historic cars and spare parts, the other is a very famous free classifieds site in Italy.
      Also I suggest you take a look in the forums of the model, in the generic ones of Lancia or Autobianchi (the brand under which it was marketed in Italy)
      Beyond Italy, look also in France or the UK, markets where the Y10 Turbo has been successful

    • @Steve-gc5nt
      @Steve-gc5nt 2 года назад +1

      I hope you are safe in Ukraine 🇺🇦

    • @DraikerDS
      @DraikerDS 2 года назад

      @@Steve-gc5nt Thank you for caring! Yes, I'm safe and my car too)

  • @marmitacopalpexo9220
    @marmitacopalpexo9220 3 года назад

    So good. Question. Beetwen The two available rims, which one were optional and wich one under request?

    • @PirataDesign
      @PirataDesign  3 года назад +1

      thank you. the iron rims with the wheel covers were fitted as standard. The alloy rims with triangular holes were on request

    • @marmitacopalpexo9220
      @marmitacopalpexo9220 3 года назад

      @@PirataDesign but first ones are nota alloys? Its plástic cover?

    • @PirataDesign
      @PirataDesign  3 года назад +1

      @@marmitacopalpexo9220 The alloy wheels have always been only on request. As standard it always had sheet metal rims with plastic wheel covers with 4 fixing holes and rectangular holes (like those shown in the various photos of the video).And the limited series Martini had the same wheel covers, but painted white

  • @riccardogatti4038
    @riccardogatti4038 3 года назад +1

    io invece gli facevo la trazione integrale interni in pelle nera Alcantara targata abarth-martini fiancate deltone evo 2 fine serie anno marzo 1994 cerchi in lega da 20 pollici sempre deltone evo 2+motore deltone evoluzione evo 2 modificato ha 657 cv+impianto di nos ed una velocità massima attorno hai 320 km/h!? che cosa ne pensate della mia elaborazione si potrebbe fare bene oppure no!?

    • @PirataDesign
      @PirataDesign  3 года назад

      mi sa un tantino esagerata per una piccola Y10.....

    • @regloxirholgerrix6432
      @regloxirholgerrix6432 2 года назад

      😘Come figlio di un ingegnere tedesco, ho guidato solo Fiat / Lancia Fire, Citroen Mitsubishi e KIA (= Mazda) Bella Italia

  • @asd36f
    @asd36f 3 года назад

    It would have been interesting if Lancia decided to run the Y10 Turbo in Group A touring car racing - might have given the dominant Toyota Corolla some competition!

    • @PirataDesign
      @PirataDesign  3 года назад +1

      here in Italy, they have set up various specimens for rallies, both Gr. N and Gr.A ... but it has not been followed up. in tourism .... I don't know how well the Y10 frame is suitable for the tracks

  • @riccardogatti4038
    @riccardogatti4038 3 года назад

    ha mi dice menticavo ed anche quattro tubi di scarico targati "aberth-martini

  • @carlainscow4950
    @carlainscow4950 11 месяцев назад

    Annoying music 🤬