From minute 33 in the documentary, that is how my grandfather also remembered his homeland Cyprus. He being a Turkish Cypriot, his friends being Greek and his wife a Italian Catholic. Peace, quiet and personal freedom were according to him, the key of happines. Sad by the tragic events where both Greekish and Turkish Cypriots lost lifes, lands and loved ones.
Same scenario happened to us we Sri Lankans divided as Sinhala and Tamils, We fought against each other. Lost 100000 of lives due to civil war between 1983 to 2009 .But we share similar cultural values both originated from Indian Civilization.
Went there twice. In 2000 the North was closed but went to the Famegusta viewpoint where I learned the invasion took place the day I was born. Such an eerie feeling looking at the ghost town. Such a pity for this island to be in turmoil. It truly is beautiful.
Tiger baby. It was intervention, not invasion. (Tripartate Agreement -UK, Greece, Türkiye-. All agreed for right, responsibility and use of due power against aggressors power to intervene.
I have Cypriot ancestry along with African ancestry....I want to learn about my people and where I come from, learning your history helps you understand who you are and I am proud of my lineage! One day, I will visit Cyprus and truly experience their beautiful culture, and I can't wait!!!
@johndunn4182 No, she's not. I was actually born and raised here in Cyprus, and my parents are Greek Cypriots, unlike yours, and she's not welcomed here. Cyprus is full.
That's a beautiful thing to say. I'm visiting Paphos in September and hope to visit the northern part of the island. We all need to learn to live together, regardless of race or religion. Best wishes from England.
This tiny island means the world to me. My entire maternal side of the family are Maronites(Phoenicians) From Cyprus! God Bless Cyprus, may she remain free and just
Maronites is a good example of minority people,I have a deep respect and love for you.Minorities should fight for equality not fight to have more than the real residents.Respect to all of you Maronite Brothers from a GreekCypriot
Wow...i was "moved" by this documentary!....I was a young greek cyrpriot when we moved to Canada in '69,,,to this date I am a believer that there is room for "everyone" to co-exist on the island..it is a shame that after all these yrs, no one can come up with a resolution!
@@ismailtaskran9740 tell this to your country, Greece and the world want's a one state Cyprus, turkey want's a two state solution, but the Turkish side of Cyprus is illegal and a crime angaist international law's, literally Cyprus was native Greek land with Greeks living in it for 5000 thousands year's now, so turkey has no right in Cyprus.
When ur land is taken & flee for your life, its hard to accept that you are not going back & ur land will no longer be yours…thats one of the major issues why there is no solution…another one is purely political: powersharing….other reasons too: Security after a solution and others etc etc…so its not hard now for you to understand why there is no solution…
Yes, actually, here in Cyprus, we did not know how to communicate with each other. We were doing just some sounds in order to communicate, and we were writing in hieroglyphics. Because of you, now we have civilization. Thanks British, you have saved us. And, we are sure that you loved us!! especially after killing many Cypriots, because they wanted to be free!
The British looked after only their own interests. They are the cause of the dichotomisation of Cyprus. They are the cause of the conflict in Israel. They are the cause of the troubles between India and Pakistan. They liked to divide in order to control their colonies until the went back to where they came from. Shame to the selfish British!
Very informative, thank you for sharing. Observing what is happening in Turkey and other places in the world, the words of those that wield power, references to rule of law, lets me understand a little more of the nature of humans to use law, or lack of it to get what they desire. I hope peace prevails, without anymore bloodshed, anywhere.
lets see:1)Cypriots have the same language with grekks 2)Cypriots have the same religion with greeks 3)Cypriots have the same national hymn 4)Cypriots always use greek flags (they didnt alow as to use it so we had to make the "island flag" i dont say give cyprus to greek or turkish just let the island alone and let them believe what they want
kitsis andreas it also: has the same religion as Turks, the same language, and well both sides don’t use the flag of turkey or Greece as a national flag so
What about Turkısh Cypriots?According to you: They never existed.And this is the reason what happened in 1974.The sooner you get that ,the faster we gt a solution.
lol , people , calm down , there is no such thing as bad people , every civilization has done bad things , But the thing is , the turkish military did indeed do bad things , Why don't we just forget about politics and armies , and bring peace to this beautiful island,Cyprus doesn't belong to greece neither to turkey, but the people that live in here... Cypriots , greeks and turks need to live toghether in harmony , in peace ...
Jim K Emilio Anastasi Gentlemen, greetings! Good points have been made throughout your comments, I liked the peaceful endeavors you support. It is true, Cyprus belongs to Cypriots (regardless of ethnicity). However I found it a little disappointing how you both waved off the events that led to the separation, and especially how Mr. K (Jim) claims that Turks do not want peace, nor unity, I think Mr. K, you do not follow the referendums, how the North have deliberately wanted to join, and how the South insistently said "OXI" (NO). Also I wasn't going to add anything to my agreements with your peaceful wishes, had you not pretended to not know why the Turkish military came to Cyprus. Why there was an intervention (you will say invasion, I know)? What was happening to the Turkish Cypriots on the island during 67-74? What is EOKA-B? I don't like these painful topics. That era was a nightmarish time for Cypriots (Greek&Turkish), including us Turks (from mainland), but we can't pretend why certain events unfolded the way they did. As long as we ignore our past, and the events that took place, we are cursed to repeat them. I want peace in Cyprus, unity, and harmony as much as you do. I want that Island to get rid, of any army that isn't the Cypriot army. But please lets not pretend that Cyprus was at all innocent, her government failed to keep peace, and failed to protect her citizens, chose to segregate and made way for fascist organizations such as EOKA-B to carry out planned hits and executions towards the Turkish Cypriots. We are aware of OUR mistakes, you too should be aware of yours. This way we can prevent future assholes from ruining our chances at a better life with each other. Efharisto my friends, and take care.
Jim K You claim that Turks didn't want a united community, I don't have to say that it's wrong, the community itself can answer for that. Until the late 50's the Turkish and Greek Cypriots were an inter-communal society, they were living in harmony (minus the British intervention and the Church's involvement). So the island had a Greek heritage (mind you the island wasn't "Greek" you are Cypriots be proud of this fact), and this heritage spanned back for around *3000*? years, ok... However the Turks have been living on that island for more or less 475 years, that's no small number even though its less than *3000*?. Don't forget, anyone born on that island is a natural citizen. Your approach to this issue is not objective at all I'm afraid and hidden in your civilized comments are sentiments that are too far right-wing. I wish non of these awful events had happened, but they did, and if you can't honestly face why they happened, if you can't turn the medallion around to see the mistakes that befall upon your government at that time (and even now) then sadly your perspective is bound to remain in a spectrum that's far too dim and narrow.
As a cypriot I would like to say that both of the sides have mistaken . We are all cypriots and we deserve for once to leave in our country all united with out other countries or people who don't know how both sides feel to interfere in our relationship.Blaming one the other we will gain nothing in the end
My parents and family (of Greek/Cypriot decent) lost their homes in the Northern Cyprus, during the 1974 uprising. They arrived in the US just before 1970. I was born in the US and have never visited my parent's home. My mother still holds deeds, many acres on the northern coast. My father passed many years ago, in the US. To this day, my mother still wants her property back. This occupation is illegal.
Sorry for what happened to your family. My parents (From Turkish Cypriot decent) had a home on the south side. They had to flee to north because of the uprising. To this day we still live in the north side. My parents were never able to get their stuff. Nor their home. Nor their money that they couldn't carry with them.
Sorry for your loss and your parents were probably innocent but no land mud nor clothes can repay the debt the Greeks owe the Turkish victims the orphans who were left behind Mothers fathers murdered for being Turk let’s not forget who started the War not the Turks
I really never thought that I would ever hear a one sided unbiased argument on national geographic, there are a lit of inaccuracies, but one bothered me the most, that according to you the ottomans brought Islam to Cyprus even though it is well known that the early arabic islamic conquest took hold of cyprus more than 700 years before that, and although they didn't last for too long there but an agreement was reached between the caliphate and the Byzantine empire that Cyprus would remain a neutral zone where different people with different backgrounds could work and live in peace, there was a muslim population living there until they where terminated by the crusades.
A lot of emphasis was put on the religious aspects especially of the greek cypriot community, like it was religious adherence which divided the island! Another issue is the portrayal of the Greek-Cypriot enclaved people in the Karpasia Peninsula. They are shown to be living happily under a very benevolent regime that does not infringe on their rights to practice their relighion. Unfortunately this is not the case.
having served, as a Canadian, with the U.N on Cyprus in the 70's I do not or will not qualify myself to "take sides" in the debate as to who are the legitimate inhabitants of this piece of rock. The "problem" is with the politics of religion and the fear, greed and mis-trust both have for one another
costoninos2 "something worthless"? Your words - not mine. The Cypriot people I have had the opportunity of meeting were friendly and cordial (without exception) Yes, people have died on Cyprus (including some Canadians). As a then U.N "Peace keeper" I never bevame all that familiar with the allegations of which side did what. I suspect both parties have valid complaints about each other. My perspective has always been to keep the peace and not get involved with local politics. My disgust with the U.n"'s involvement on Cyprus is that it too was motivated by the agenda of U.S. backed corporate interests which had virtually nothing to do with the interests of the people on Cyprus
***** "most dirty U.N. detachment"?? I would ask for details but it seems you dare not even reveal your name. Perhaps you shouldn't comment without bona fides
***** I will not defend the U.N or it's "Peace Keeping policies. I do not dispute the claims you make nor would I defend them. As soldiers, we get paid to do what our "leaders" order us to do. I did the best I could at protecting all parties of this cnflict. One thing I know to be fact is that I could have caused far more harm than I likely did and this has caused me great turmoil and has contributed to the P.T.S.D. I still experience from my time on Cyprus. I do not blame the Turkish or the Greek Cypriots but the U.S. foreign policies that provoked the actions which led to my being sent there.
***** I will die at some point. As will you and all other morons! Your hoping for me to die soon is somewhat like a wish for the sun to come out tomorrow. "Mercenary"? Aren't we all? So, in closing "I FLY TOO" you appear to be a moron with nothing new to contribute
After watching a bunch of documentaries on multiple countries, I am saddened to see how many conflicts are dividing and killing people everywhere on the planet. It's always based on the same divisions: religious, ethnic, language, gender, etc... When will humans will behave peacefully, and in unity, for the sake of purely appreciating life?
I am an American who visited Cyprus in 2002. 8 months after 9-11. I stayed in the Village of Episcopi where there was a British military base very close. I vacationed in what is call ArgoTourisum, where you live among the locals and not in a hotel with a Restaurant and pool.I had the best 2 weeks of my entire life living among the kind and couteous people of this majestic Island.I dared not cross into the usurped Turkish side of the divided capital city of Nicosia.What good is the U.N.? Not!
When I, as an American, see the kinds of things some Greek and Turkish Cypriots are saying to each other here, it makes me sad, because I recognize it. The racial insults look too familiar to someone who has studied US history and seen the problems that were once so common between Americans of African and European descent. The wounds here are a bit older--our Civil War was in the 1860s, not the 1970s--so they have had more time to begin to heal. For example, it is no longer acceptable here to call people names based on their race. I think that this will happen in Cyprus over time as well. Perhaps the existence of a claimant separatist state will impede things a bit, but it took about 100 years for the USA to go from the Civil War to the Civil Rights movement, so perhaps things will go better in Cyprus. One thing that Americans have come to understand through experience is that if someone is born in a country, and raised in that country, and has only lived in that country, then he or she has no other home. This is true whether that person's ancestors have lived in that country for 3000 years, 400 years, or even 40 years. In America, during the days when racism was not frowned upon as it is now, it was common for white people to tell black people that they should "go back to Africa." The black people to whom they were saying this had never been to Africa, or learned about African culture, or spoken the language of their ancestral African tribes. They had never had a home but here, so they could not go "back" to anywhere else. Most of my ancestors were from Germany (a few were Scottish, which is where I get my last name). My ancestors have not lived here in America for much more than 150 years, far less than either the Greek or Turkish Cypriots have lived in Cyprus. There a few Native Americans (what we Americans call the tribes of people whose ancestors lived here before Europeans began to move in) who would say that my ancestors took their land and everything, and I should go back to Europe. But I have never had a home in Europe. I have never even been to Germany, and do not speak the German language. If America were not my home, I would not have a home, or a place to go. I believe this is the way it is now with most Cypriots, regardless of their Greek or Turkish ancestors. I know your wounds are much fresher; there are many people alive who remember the killing that happened only 40 years ago. But still, you must not blame every Turk, or every Greek. Many of them did not do any killing. I would especially encourage the young people who have been born since the divide to avoid blaming other young people for a problem that happened before you, or they, were born. I call on all Cypriots who read this, whether you are Greek, Turkish, or from somewhere else: Do not make the same mistakes that were made in the history of my country in the days of the Jim Crow laws. Do not hate someone because of their ancestors or skin color. Do not think that their "true home" is a place they have never been, just because their ancestors came from there 400 years ago, or even 40 years ago. If you avoid making these mistakes, you can bring about healing in your land. The healing will not be instant, just like the healing of those who still grieve for family members who were killed in the violence, but there is hope.
Philip McNiel Do remember, the U.S.A not only played a major role in causing everything, but did nothing to help Cyprus until recently with Obama, and then forgot everything all over again with Trump.
If you are implying that the USA was completely innocent, you are either lying or know little about history. It is common knoledge in Cyprus that becauseof good relations with Russia, NATO feared Cyprus’ fall to communism, granting the Soviets a very strategic location. Nato’s solution was to give the Turkish major control over the island. You may not have known that the head of Cypriot affairs with the U.S.A did not even care while the invasion was happening, or perhaps, he did care, he wanted it to happen! Do you not know the saying ΝΑΤΟ ΣΙΑ ΠΡΟΔΟΣΙΑ, or in your language NATO CIA BETRAYAL! There is, in fact, recent a video in youtube that perfectly illustrates my point, not that it is my sole base.
I am not implying, of course, that racism is not a problem, as I agree with you in the tipic completely. I am only extremely disgusted by the common examples of American nationalistic indoctrination you show, as racism is as prominent in Cyprus as it is there. Whether by that I mean actually prominent depends on perspective.
All I am saying is that there are 2 type of ethnic Turkish people living in the island now. 1 is the original Turkish Cypriots who have been living in there all along since the empire. The other one is the settlers. Saying that TMT killed the TC is an incredibly serious acusation which must be investigated in the Rep. of Turkey and International courts as a warcrime. Though I haven't seen or heard of any TC testimony about this in my entire life. However I have seen many about the EOKA-B
Cyprus is for Cypriots who are strong and fearless to defend what they believe in against the Politicians, Religious establishments, and those who become very rich at the expense of all the innocent Cypriots whether Greek or Turk after what happened in 1974. Greeks toppled their own President Makarios to unite the island with Greece (ENOSIS) and they gave a chance and a reason for Turkey to come and invade the island to save the Turkish population. Lots of people died on both sides who had nothing to do with what happened but hey great American civilization calls it collateral damage and it is because of their greed that people all over the world suffer every day. Soooo SAD.
It's neither prejudice nor patriotism that disadvantages entrepreneurs from the turkish occupied part of the island in their attempts to sell their products to markets in the area controlled by the legitimate government of the Republic of Cyprus. These "entrepreneurs" are exploiting land that rightfully belongs to Greek Cypriots who were forced out of their ancestral homes by the turkish military in an act of ethnic cleansing. The International Criminal Court clearly defines Turkey's actions of deportation, forcible transfer of population and implantation of settlers as war crimes.
Because Cyprus a Greek island since 4000 years ago wanted to officially join with Greeks. Native of cyprus are Greeks. Turkish people have only been thier since 500 years ago. Ottaman Empire invaders
do you want to compare what we did to you and what you did to us we have killed 200-300 people you have killed thousands of us and you did a lot of war crimes on 1974
Hence , no peace on the island, as Greek nationalism and nationalists are racist , intolerant and bigoted . There idea that the island existed in communal harmony is fantasy ... Sadly no balance in this film, no Turkish Cypriot refugees interviewed for example is one glaring omission ! Another is showing no examples of Turkish victims or missing persons, why ? It's not because of lack of victims predating 1974. It seems this film was very selective in showing Greeks in a certain light ... certainly not the violence and terrorist atrocities committed against the British and the Turks .... I wonder why?
Having this opinion shows strongly how horribly educated you are, and yes Turkish Cypriot refugees interviewed throughout the years and do show them saying that life as a community was much more better. Cyprus was a strong connected island before the war. So connected that Greek and Turkish woman was even breastfeeding each others infants when they didn't have much breast milk or for work necessities. You dont know so just keep your opinion to your self....or better go leave on BOTH sides and then come again and share your opinion. And also mr. whoever you are.... think for a bit that...Turk Cypriots (as we call them) come to the Greek Cypriots ( as we call them ) goes to the FREEEEEEE side of the island ( as all the island call it even Turk Cyprios ) and ask for help and guess what....They get a house jobs and non stop benefits -- note here that if you are a Greek Cypriot and go ask for a benefits if you dont comply with the law you get nothing -- oh yeah i forgot that greeks are racists and bla bla bla. And dont even get me started for more
National geographic ! Lonv ago ,your magazine wrote also about the island. Somehow, I'm mentioned in there ,somewhere It was something about wall paintings/ frescos , in a Christian church. Nevertheless. I must mention, as a Cypriot , That ,unfortunately the north part of my country Cyprus, is still half almost occupied by Turkey since 1974 MILITARY OCCUPATION
Hope the young generation of both Turkish & Greek Cypriot realize that what have happened in the past was just for individual benefits & it has nothing with the ethics. I have lived for 4 years in Cyprus & i got many Cypriots friends and all were telling me the same. Both ethics used to live together with no problems. All these things has made up by the British.
I don't get it! Since it's been 39 years ago the Island got divided. It's just a Greece and Turkey issue. Why can't Cyprus just be Cyprus . People who live next to and with eachother. I live in a country where there are 177 different nationalities and we all try to get along.. We don't divide our country into 177 pieces because of our differences.. Everyone is different..It would be kinda boring if we were all the same ;-) But we can all put in some effort to live in a peacefull place.
I certainly did my research very well in that issue. Also I know what it feels like to be driven from your home. When you say the island is Greek it is a spit on the faces of Turkish Cypriots who Greek EOKA-B gathered violently killed. You had responsibilty to protect those people as you protect your own. The minute you turned blind to ethnic cleansing in the island the minute you choosed your side. Republic of Turkey used their right of being a "Guarantor State" period do your own research
MrNotebookguy u are very mistaken. Turkey doesn’t care about their people they used them as an excuse to get on the island. The United States only let them do so, so that they have a firm it grip on the island Incase the Cold War truly became a war. Turkey didn’t care for the Turkish Cypriots in 1878 when they sold them with the Greeks to the English 😂. They only care about them when they want to care.
Turkish invasion of Cyprus is illegal. The proclamation of a Turkish state at the north is illegal. IN FACT no country, except Turkey of course (HA HA HA) recognises its legality. It's a state that does not exist as a state. Only Turkey recognises it because it is ILLEGAL. The state of Northern Cyprus is ILLEGAL according to international law. It is a FAKE state. FAKE as YOU are.
Cyprus is Greek and always will be Greek no matter what the newcomers Turks say and do. Just look at the archeological sites on the island and its history.
i voted yes for the annan plan but from what i understand from friends that voted no they thought that TC needs would be satisfied within a few weeks but some of the greek cypriot refugees would not get their property back threfore they thought it favoured the TC. they also thought a solution would come later on that favoured the GC better. like u said a solution that satisfies all the GC needs is impossible. they were quite confident about another solution.
Cyprus was divided into a Turkish Cypriot state in the north and a Greek Cypriot administration in the south after a 1974 military coup was followed by violence against the island's Turkish population, and the subsequent intervention of Turkey as a guarantor power.
after 74 turks now 1 and half billion : ) how you will you kick turks? wake up from a dream.you will have a nightmare .eoka enosis made this. congratulations catherine .
@@cypcyp6494 Maybe those 1 and a half billion should do a DNA test, I think you'll find most of them are Greek! I was brought up as Turkish Cyoriot my family are all Turkish muslims. I did a dna test & guess what I am Greek & you probably are too.
@@NotoriousPepe Turkey was the one that invaded ILLEGALLY. The state they created at the north of Cyprus is a FAKE state. No country in the whole world recognises it, except ... Turkey. LMAO It's ridiculous.
Okay, someone please, you must tell me, what is that grooviness being played at 5:00? Seriously, I'm bored to death here and I want to get down to that in its entirety.
MeAmbros."The Cost Of The Combined Greek Bailout Just Rose To €320 Billion In Secured Debt" so what's so great about the 1 billion ($ Euros?) that Turkey receives from who?? There's a big difference between investments or short term loans and a huge bailout that can NEVER be repaid. That means you are enslaved to the creditors terms.They dictate how your economy and govt is run.That's why the EU deposed Papandreou and Berlusconi. Greece, Italy, and Cyprus lost their democracy for the bailout.
I do not dissagree with you about our first president and the role of church my friend, but I think that you are smart enough to understand that your empire ruled the world by sword. Yes I also agree that you spread all the above you mensioned, but again you also "devide and conquer" and this is how you devided my island. What you have never understood is that we still like the British and we still use some of the ways you used to use, to run the country.
I was referring to the settlers after 1974. most GC have nothing against the Turkish population that was here before the division.its their home too.i doubt we'll get another chance to send them back. The Annan plan in my opinion was the best both sides could do and most of the GC blew it
If you really have land in Turkish side of Cyprus you can always sell it to Turkish authorities. 1- You can exchange your land in north with a Turkish person who has land left in south 2- You can sell it through court if you find the price worth it. 3- I am not sure but probably if your land is on a beach or something you can also rent it. But I am not sure. Both GC and TC can pass each others land
Random Person .... still looks like you’re an idiot and need to get some history lessons. My mother ran from the turks as they illegally took her home and killed anyone that gave them problems. 40 years later, its still under ILLEGAL occupation, and every EU country recognizes it as that. Its Greek Cypriot land. So shut the fuck up, stop talking out of your ass and go troll somewhere else.
Unfortunately I don't live in Cyprus that's why I do not vote for any parties:( Akel having a very good Turkish language website I think is the best thing I have ever heard about the relations in the Island. As I understood AKEL members suffered from both extremist sides EOKA-B and TMT. The last TC AKEL member was killed by the TMT. You guys really rock in terms of liberty, respect one another and tolerance. If Cyprus ever becomes united again I am quite sure you will have many TC votes.
No one says anything about the truth on why 1974 happened in Cyprus. Makarios went to America and asked for a loan from the then-American President Richard Nixon, but he was refused. Then he went to Russia and asked President Leonid Brezhnev for a loan and promised that he will give them a base on the island. When Nixon heard about this he let the Greek Junta in Greece collaborate with the head of the EOKA-B Nicos Samson to topple Makarios. According to the Cyprus Constitution, The President of Cyprus will be a Greek Cypriot always elected by the Greek Cypriots and the Vise President will be Turkish Cypriot always elected by the Turkish Cypriots. Of course, Nixon knew that Turkey would interfere as a guarantor power, and they did. Turkey tried to invade the island a few times before during 60"s but was stopped by the American 6th fleet. Because America has been the colonial power during the 20th century they do things to suit their purpose so they allowed Turkey to invade the island under the disguise of saving the Turkish Cypriots. This time the 6th fleet was in the Red Sea but they did stop the Turks after they took a portion of the island by deploying the 6th fleet back in the Cyprus waters. Everybody knows what they did in Iraq and Afghanistan by saying that they had WEAPONS of MASS DESTRUCTION which was a lie that we all found out about it afterwards and because of it few million people died because of it. Whoever is the most powerful country in the world design the fate of others like any other colonial power that we have seen in history. I can only say to both communities that stop fighting each other and realize who the real culprit is and sort your differences out and live in peace together as you did in the past. As Cyprus is called the JEWEL of the Mediterranean you can all be rich from tourism alone and prosper together. Good luck and God Bless, Life is good if you know how to live it.
I don't agree with the man talking at 9:30. There are Cypriot nationals. I am one of them. We are the one's (from both 'sides') who believe in a single Cypriot nationality - no Greeks, no Turks - just Cypriots. It's because of nationalist idiots (from both 'sides') that it all got ruined for all of us! With the help of the British of course. Let's never forget that.
false, my friend. Just because you say 3 words differently doesn't make you a different person. I understood everything the greeks said in the video with ease. That is like saying cretans aren't greeks. Just because you want to feel "special" and call yourself "cypriot" doesn't mean you're not a fucking greek.
Panayiotis Xenakis you understood every word because you are Cretan. your dialect is very similar to ours. we don't want to feel special - we are an independent nation since 1960..something Cretans wished and tried for but failed repeatedly, so don't give me this bullshit that we are fucking greeks..the majority on the island are of greek descent, but not all of us. get your facts right
Cretans rebelled against Ottoman trying to unite with mother Greece in 1821-1829,1840-1841,1854,1866-1869,1878,1896-1897,1905.STOP LYING.Of Greek descent you said ?Cretans and Cypriots are the definition of Hellenism.You IGNORANT idiot.
based on the articles of both the Greek (2nd article) and the Cypriot (1st article) constitution, Greek is called someone who is either born in Greece or someone who is mother tongue is Greek, is Christian Orthodox and participates in Greek cultural traditions. Therefore we are considered to be Greeks not by claiming that we were born in Greece, but because (1) in Cyprus our official language is Greek and we speak the Cypriot dialect which is derived from Greek language (2) we are Christians Orthodox and (3) as a country we participate and celebrate in all Greek cultural traditions. Also you should not forget that the first habitants of our island were Greeks. You cannot refuse your ethnic inheritance we should be proud of who we are.
Nice, but I just can't understand (neither accept) why the narrator keeps mentioning every time Turks before Greeks: 1) We (Greeks) were and still are the majority of the population of the island 2) The Republic of Cyprus, inhabited by Greeks, is the only sovereign and internationally recognized state on the island 3) We have been living on this island since 1500 BC (almost 3500 years!) whereas Turks have been here only 400 years. 4)Even G comes before T in the alphabet!
Since you seem to know NOTHING of Cypriot history you shouldn't say we are acting like kids. In 1974 a WAR took place in Cyprus with people dead, displaced and missing because of a problematic relationship between the 2 communities. Its a quite popular tendncy among foreigners to support the Turks and an attitude like this can hide even the simplest details like the one a I wrote in the first place.
nicon1391 The desire for superiority is the signifying weakness in your ideology. You're the offspring of a generation that grew apart in hatred and ignorance of the Turkish Counterparts of the island. You've never seen unity and yet preach feelings that deny peace, and show extreme prejudice towards the Turkish Cypriots. I doubt that you have the courtesy nor the courage to research your (Cypriot) history and what has driven the island to divide. Sadly you try to uphold one end above the other, Greeks over Turks, Christianity over Islam, and you fail to see that you like others are just human, and that cultures and religious beliefs are for one's individual practice, that everyone can be equal. It is easy to hate, easy to kill, easy to fear, and only the weak tend to follow this trend, try to be stronger in your inner conscience, try to love and understand. Those who live in the north are no longer the people that you can blame for '74. They are no longer alive. The same goes for the south, the culprits of the EOKA-B are either all dead or about to die, so the North has no one to blame anymore. The island is one, but the tainted ideologies keep a sharp and an invisible line between people. Yes, the Greek Cypriots may have inhabited the land for ~3500 years, but you can't simply denounce a people who have also lived on the same land together for ~500 years, just because mathematically its smaller. Try to measure it by the human life span. Both sides lose by having the island divided and only countries like Britain can benefit from this. Please wake up, both sides needs to open their minds and hearts. A united Cyprus is a strong Cyprus!
elbbd Your opinion is generally correct and completely respectable but seems to have several weaknesses. First of all, telling the truth, because this information is a matter of truth, doesn't represent weakness. It is really common nowadays to consider expressing true facts as seeking to prevail over the others, especially in the case of Cyprus. And in this occasion the whole issue of this conversation based on the video is strongly depended on an effort of propaganda by foreign forces to deform willingly the history of the island in favour of the Turkish Cypriot community. Moreover, I think you are being naive, just thinking of saying what you wrote to those who are engaged with the negotiations of the Cyprus dispute, they will ignore you completely, especially the UN representatives who have never solved one single issue on global base. And also I don't denounce the Turks, they denounce us! That's why the vast majority of the Turkish Cypriots were in favour of the Turkish invasion in 1974 who ravaged the island, knowing from the beginning the consequences of this event (of course the disgraced Greek government of that time gave them an excuse to do so). Even Turkish Cypriots today consider this incident as a great mistake. But now its too late to make a change, since the Turkish troops will never leave the island since they have set foot on it... Everyone wants Cyprus united but not all in the same way. I am far from ignorant and (supposing you are not Cypriot) its easy for you to play the game of (mistakenly) maintaining balance.
nicon1391 Just think of what I wrote in the first place. Even if we don't take into consideration factors 1 and 3 about history and population numbers, can you explain why they keep making such references ignoring politics and letters, which are common sense issues that no one can deny? What is irrational in my remark?
nicon1391 Okay, now going back to what you've said, "...propaganda by foreign forces to deform willingly the history of the island in favour of the Turkish Cypriot community." If anybody was in favor of the Turkish Cypriot community they would have recognized the north as a sovereign nation and have not even placed an embargo to begin with, so lets trash that allegation. You have also mentioned that, "... majority of the Turkish Cypriots were in favour of the Turkish invasion in 1974..." yes, they have supported it and wanted it because they were being systematically targeted and executed. If the '74 intervention (I know you'll call this invasion) did not occur, there would be no Turks left on the island of Cyprus. Why do I say this? How come I'm so sure? Well, history tends to repeat itself, because the humans that write that history tend to keep on to their habits, for example: Crete, 1820's, massive organized mobs hunted down Turks and other Muslims on the island, those who could escape saved their lives, those who couldn't were brutally murdered. Today there are no Turks left on the island of Crete, and the reason is quite apparent. Such events are often "forgotten" or "dismissed" by Greeks and Greek Cypriots, but when it comes to Turks they never forget what we did, to the point of exaggeration. I do not claim that we are angels. Anyone in this world with a sound mind can not claim such a thing for themselves. But what most do is the most common mistake, they disregard their own crimes, and try to volley allegations and accusations against their opposition. We must all accept our mistakes, and recognize them, so that we can prevent them from happening again. I do not find the '74 intervention as a joyous event, nor am I proud of it, but we were forced to do it, and because of it we were bankrupt. Why do I mention the financial aspect of this? Money is never as important as human life, I know this, however my point here is that we didn't do this military operation out of pure pleasure as some would like to claim. We were going through hard times, and it happened only because it was necessary. There are third party records that you check for yourself, showing that the Turkish Republic tried every suitable way to solve this issue, and left the choice of military action to the very end. Greece was going through a coup and had severed all diplomatic ties with Turkey, England dismissed our calls for help. At every passing moment the situation was escalating out of control, and the Cypriot government had lost their grip on EOKA-B. There were no one protecting the Turkish Cypriots, some kind Greek Cypriots put their own lives on the line to hide and protect their Turkish friends, but only some could benefit from this.
It really did favour the TC less than the current situation really. If I am not it included -Majority of the settlers from Turkey to go back where they come from. -GC gain almost half of the lost territory at TC expense. -Ports in the North of Cyprus. I also think that would normalize the relations between Turkey and Cyprus. Most of the Turkish people in Turkey doesn't know about Cyprus anymore than this "Evil Greeks killed Turks therefore Turkey took the North of Cyprus" nothing else about it.
We, Cypriots, are passionate people. We love everyone easily, but that passion can turn into passionate hate with the right propaganda. Turk-Cypriots and Greek-Cypriots are CYPRIOTS. We can live together, we already live together everyday in the Malls and in the Ledra streets. Its just the nationalistic political leaders that have issues between them and the people pay the price. Erdogan is a fascist and will never let the Turk-Cypriots unite with their Greek-Cypriot brothers. The past is the past, when people like Makarios and Denktash could manipulate and fuel with hatred the minds of the youth. Now we are in 2018, we have internet, we know what really happened AND we can change this together. NO Greece, NO Turkey, JUST CYPRUS. This island belongs to us. We respect our motherlands, we acknowledge that we are Greek or Turks, but this our island. We live in this island, not Erdogan or Tsipras and we want to be free from armies and oppression. We want to advance into the future and evolve ourselves as people. Not remain stuck in the past like miserable creatures.
I thought a bit of recorded fact might help the "debate" (Source Wiki) The Greek Cypriots trace their origins to the descendants of the Mycenaean Greeks who settled on the island during the second half of the second millennium BC. The island gradually became part of the Hellenic world as the settlers prospered over the next centuries. Alexander the Great conquered the island from the Persians in 333 BC. After the division of the Roman Empire in 285 AD, Cypriots had home rule for almost nine centuries under the jurisdiction of the Byzantine Empire, something not seen again until 1960.[citation needed] Perhaps the most important event of the early Byzantine period was the local church's independence from the Patriarchate of Antioch and All the East in 431. The bishop of the ancient capital Salamis (renamed Constantia by Emperor Constantius II) was constituted metropolitan by Emperor Zeno, with the title archbishop. The Byzantine era profoundly molded Greek Cypriot culture. The Greek Orthodox Christian legacy bestowed on Greek Cypriots in this period would live on during the succeeding centuries of foreign domination. Because Cyprus was never the final goal of any external ambition, but simply fell under the domination of whichever power was dominant in the eastern Mediterranean, destroying its civilization was never a military objective or necessity. The Cypriots did however endure the oppressive rule of first the Lusignans and then the Venetians from the 1190s through to 1570. King Amaury, who succeeded his brother Guy de Lusignan in 1194, was particularly intolerant of the Orthodox Church. Greek Cypriot land was appropriated for the Latin churches after they were established in the major towns on the island. In addition, tax collection was also part of the heavy oppressive attitude of the occupiers to the locals of the island, in that it was now being conducted by the Latin churches themselves. The Ottoman conquest of Cyprus in 1571 delivered the Greek population from serfdom and servitude to the Latin church. Cypriot Greeks were now able to take control of the land they had been working on for centuries. The local Christians resumed practicing their religion in the only acceptable way they knew. The patriarch serving the Ottoman sultan also acted as ethnarch, or leader of the Greek nation, thus enabling the local Orthodox representative to practice decidedly secular powers, for instance in adjudicating justice and in the collection of taxes. Despite the inherent oppression of foreign subjugation, the period of Ottoman rule (1570-1878) had a limited impact on Greek Cypriot culture. The Ottomans tended to administer their multicultural empire with the help of their subject millets, or religious communities. The tolerance of the millet system permitted the Greek Cypriot community to survive, administered on behalf of Constantinople by the Archbishop of the Church of Cyprus, who became the community's head, or ethnarch. Although religiously tolerant, Ottoman rule was generally harsh and inefficient. Turkish settlers suffered alongside their Greek Cypriot neighbors, and the two groups together endured centuries of oppressive governance from Constantinople. A minority of Greek Cypriots converted to Islam during this period, and are sometimes referred to as "neo-Muslims" by historians.[10][11] Cypriot cuisine, as with Greek cuisine, was imprinted with the spices and herbs made common as a result of extensive trade links within the Ottoman Empire. Names of many dishes came to reflect the sources of the ingredients from the many lands under the Ottoman rule. Coffee houses pervasively spread throughout the island into all major towns and countless villages. Politically, the concept of enosis - unification with the Greek "motherland" - became important to literate Greek Cypriots after Greece declared its independence from the Ottoman Empire in 1821. A movement for the realization of enosis gradually formed, in which the Church of Cyprus played a dominant role (see "Cyprus dispute"). During British rule (1878-1960), the British brought an efficient colonial administration, but government and education were administered along ethnic lines, accentuating differences. For example, the education system was organized with two Boards of Education, one Greek and one Turkish, controlled by Athens and Istanbul, respectively.[citation needed] The resulting education emphasized linguistic, religious, cultural, and ethnic differences and ignored traditional ties between the two Cypriot communities.[citation needed] The two groups were encouraged to view themselves as extensions of their respective motherlands, and the development of two distinct nationalities with antagonistic loyalties was ensured.[13] The importance of religion within the Greek Cypriot community was reinforced when the Archbishop of the Church of Cyprus, Makarios III, was elected the first president of the Republic of Cyprus in 1960. For the next decade and a half, enosis was a key issue for Greek Cypriots, and a key cause of events leading up to 1974 when Turkey invaded and occupied the northern part of the island. The island remains divided today, with the two communities almost completely separated. Many Greek Cypriots, most of whom lost their homes, lands and possessions during the Turkish invasion, emigrated mainly to the UK, USA, Australia, South Africa and Europe. There are today estimated to be 335,000 Greek Cypriot emigrants living in Great Britain. The majority of the Greek Cypriots in Great Britain currently live in England; there is an estimate of around 3,000 in Wales and 1,000 in Scotland. By the early 1990s, Greek Cypriot society enjoyed a high standard of living. Economic modernization created a more flexible and open society and caused Greek Cypriots to share the concerns and hopes of other secularized West European societies. The Republic of Cyprus joined the European Union in 2004, officially representing the entire island, but suspended for the time being in the Turkish occupied north.
Before Cyprus was ceded to Britain fit had been under Ottoman rule for more than 300 years. Prior to that it was Lusignan, Venetian, Roman.The Greek presence has been negligible even during Byzantine times. It was the British who encouraged Greek immigration due to some twisted ideas of Greece being the origin of Western civilization. Greek xenophobia which fueled their EOKA terror campaign against Britain and later against the Turks ensured they would lose 1/3 of the Island. Poetic justice.
I understand. But, babe, you've to realize that the Turkish people won't never go away, they've the same right to be there as the Greeks. It's better to share the land and live in peace; because no one will win if a war breaks through. Forget the past and live the present: they both share the same land, they both have the same right to live there.
I understand. I read about Cyprus' history and that's truly Greek territory, even the mythology says that Aphrodite was born there. And I'm sorry to hear about all those Greek bodies and about all the sufferin'. And of course, you the Greeks have the upper hand, but what's done is done, you can't kill or expel the Turkish people livin' there. You've to deal with present and accept them as your brothers and sisters, Cypriots. War only will bring more suffering and a longer hatred. The only way is acceptance, forgiveness and peace.
You know what is the problem, firstly i would like to say that Cyprus has been under the greek empire for a long time and many of our cultures are similar to that of Greece. However, Cyprus is not just greek, theres turkish cypriots, maronites, armenians and latin-cypriots. Furthermore, i would like to say that Cypriot is not a dialect but a language, along time ago the languages ancient greek and proto-cypriot were along the side we had our own writing and our own words but cypriot dialect was considered similar to ancient Greek and was converted by alexander the great. Just look at it as being spanish and catalan. From after we were invaded by many other civilisations. i would also like to state turkey was never turkey it was persia before any other person says its turkish which is not and turks originated from Asia so that concludes that cyprus has never been yours. Furthermore before people say cyprus comes from turkey in terms of geology that is still unknown, it has also been shown that the island cyprus is a segment of the sunken island 'Atlantis' you can google this. Now about the latest problems of cyprus as we can see there has been alot of problem with cypriots due to brainwashed helenizism and attomanism propaganda. It has created confusion of how cypriots have been portrayed. we may have greek, turkish, spanish this and that DNA so what, it has come to a realisation that now we are an own ethnicity and this is proven in genetics. It has been proven that turkish and greek cypriots have similar DNA that to Greeks or turks, so what does that tell you, furthermore while researching diseases mutations of specific diseases vary according to race, from what i have seen that greek cypriots have different mutations to that of a greek and turkish person of the same disease in fact. Greeks and turks carry mostly the same mutations for specific disease, take note!!!! Now in terms of politics in cyprus it has been trying to get independence because not being funny Greece hasn't looked after cyprus properly, There was a greek-cypriot and a turkish cypriot genocide. Greek-cypriot was worse due to a larger population and because turkish army are like dogs sorry to say but thats the truth. No army has massacred races like the turkish army, despite that i dont have anything again turkish community. Now the genocides that occur on cyprus were based on ideology of greek and turkish nationalism, which we can see had corrupted and caused many issues in cyprus, cyprus needs to bring this barrier down. I believe the best way is for everyone to learn how to speak cypriot and i think its good idea to make cypriot an official langauge and know how to write it, i believe in that way it would make everyone feel they belong in the island. The turkish army needs to get lost as well, but also if for harmony to occur people need to respect each other religions and religious monuments, the hala sulta teke has not been harmed where as many orthodox churches have been broken down, used as ways of getting money and i think its ridiculous. People need to realise that we have our own government, and own way of speaking and our own people and its time for us to be independent and not sucking on the tits of the motherlands. And on the contrary i would look to say that turkish and greek people will never consider ourselves as being like them, they take the piss of how we speak, how we do things, i am not saying all do but those nationalistic nazis doooo. Yes bloody nazis because thats whats caused this mess. And if Cyprus to be reunited it should be a state that is well educated with learning many languages and cultures while holding to our roots which we have had as well, well the goods of those roots.
***** i wrote in fricking english for everyone to understand, whats the problem, and the fact you think i am talking crap shows you don't know nothing about your history, and yes i am a charlie and fricking proud, when your a cypriot who has lift abroad you can see things about your country compare to someone who lives in that country. I can tell your bloody ignorant, which doesn't surprise me.
malakia les, h kypriotides enai ellines, ta idia skata. Egw mporousa na kataleveno OLA pou ipane h anthropoi mesa sto video. Eimaste ellines, kai an den mporeis na katalavenies afto eisai prodotis.
rambot1992 obviously doesn't know anythng but u cant demand from him to respect u when the only thing you've done is lay the blame at greek cypriots. not all the greek cypriots took part in eoka b and not all all the turkish cypriots were in tmt but the way u talk about greek cypriots its like for u the tmt was a holy organisation and it was all the greek cypriots fault the tmt played a major role in dividing the island by killing turkish cypriots to frame eoka b and make the situation worse
THIS IS BIASED TOWARD THE ANNAN PLAN (and makes no serious attempt to weigh the points of each side) The whole documentary was too focused on life in the north and south, failing to establish the situation. As far as I understand, Turkey up and invaded Cyprus. Was the intercommunal violence something that could not be dealt with diplomatically? I don't know; this video made no inquiry. The fact is, the true story is undoubtedly in favor of the GCs, and NatGeo didn't want to sound biased.
Read a book called The Genocide Files. This will unveil the truth of what went on in Cyprus. It is also unbiased. The book is spot on. Some who read it will find it hard to accept and some will get very upset. Bottom line a Genocide was taking place in Cyprus since the 1950's. I'll let those interested in the truth to read the book
My father who is Turkish Cypriot gave this book to me and I still need to read it. He witnessed a lot of brutality and now here we are in England, he was 15 when he left Cyprus was going to be a pilot was studying aviation but his dreams were shattered when he became an immigrant in the UK, then suffered a barrage of racism. He still has deeds to the properties he grew up in in Limassol that he can't claim because Greeks are living there. I think this documentary is a little biased. Turks wanted to create a unification but the Greeks don't want it.
I meant everyone is living in someone elses property. If you are unhappy (obviously) with the settlers came to North after 1974. That's fine make a treaty with Turkey to sent them back (just like it was in the Annan Plan) But if you have problems with the Turkish population who has been living there even before the Republic of Turkey & Greece & Cyprus was build, we have to say "hang on a minute" you have to live together if not we will divide the island
@@hayhahrkririfk4630 You ruined this island. This is why you call it Turkish. Cyprus has been Greek for thousands of years. You came and you ruined it. You must be so proud of it. Why don't you go back to where you came from? Did they kick you out of there?
what about 'india' it was created as result of British rule. Before the british were in South Asia and brought the name, what is today called "India" was dozens of princely states which were independent till the British put them into "india." Also "hinduism" is a British creation as well. What you wrote about Australia is undisputed, and I 100% agree. Even America, Canada, New Zealand were built on the ashes of the indigenous peoples
we have TC members though they dont reach the numbers they once did in 50s and 60s. the first 2 years when we were in power in 2008 Christophias and talat met regularly and there was real hope for a solution. then though with the explosion at mari and the economic crisis we lost a lot of our popularity and we lost the elections in February to Anastasiades. unlike many other parties we did not support eoka a or eoka b leading to the killings of many of us.
WHAT SORRY YOU CAN'T SEE THE GREEK POLITISM THE GREEK GODS ARE YOU KIDDING ME JEWS HAHA OMG WHAT ELSE I WILL LISTEN ARABS JEWS SHUT UP CYPRIOTS ARE GREEKS AND PROUD OF THAT
Cyprus must have had a similar experience to what many of the Palestinians did, when, without much warning the state of Israel was reestablished. That story is rarely realized by those in the Western World. The Hebrews, Isralies, and Jews, needed a homeland again and the Palestinians needed their homes and land that had been their for over 2 thousand years. I sympathize with both, and I know the resolution can only be reached through the Higher Mind, Communication, and a Desire to experience Harmony. The Public gets manipulated by the few for their desires and Profits.
This does not explain in any way the history and the reason behind the division of the island. Its a commercial video showing videos the the islands. Do not watch
There will be calm only if two community will feel themselves as Cypriots, not grc or trk.Only then it will be Republic and State.But it will not happen never,unfortunately and everybody knows why.
From minute 33 in the documentary, that is how my grandfather also remembered his homeland Cyprus. He being a Turkish Cypriot, his friends being Greek and his wife a Italian Catholic. Peace, quiet and personal freedom were according to him, the key of happines. Sad by the tragic events where both Greekish and Turkish Cypriots lost lifes, lands and loved ones.
Wow so you are a Cypriot who also has Italian blood? 😊super cool
You look just like Aphrodite herself Linda!
@@art83islife Majority of Cypriot’s have Italian and Greek blood. Including myself.
My father was a Turkish Cypriot & my mother is from Spain.
Same scenario happened to us we Sri Lankans divided as Sinhala and Tamils, We fought against each other. Lost 100000 of lives due to civil war between 1983 to 2009 .But we share similar cultural values both originated from Indian Civilization.
My favourite place that I've visited so far. Exceeded expectation ten fold. What an amazing place and peace to all Cypriots.
Went there twice. In 2000 the North was closed but went to the Famegusta viewpoint where I learned the invasion took place the day I was born. Such an eerie feeling looking at the ghost town. Such a pity for this island to be in turmoil. It truly is beautiful.
Tiger baby. It was intervention, not invasion. (Tripartate Agreement -UK, Greece, Türkiye-.
All agreed for right, responsibility and use of due power against aggressors power to intervene.
The Mediterranean is truly magical. all of it.
@Cartoon Guy You said it.for years I have been wishing to live in Mediterranean region(of Europe)for the rest of my life.
@@nathaincoolman9982 The life in UK is shit.
I have Cypriot ancestry along with African ancestry....I want to learn about my people and where I come from, learning your history helps you understand who you are and I am proud of my lineage! One day, I will visit Cyprus and truly experience their beautiful culture, and I can't wait!!!
You are most welcome to our beautiful island.
what African country are you from? I am an African-American!
@@johndunn4182 you're a Cypriot?
@@nathancoleman7235 Yo was up bro? Wat my homy doin?
@johndunn4182 No, she's not. I was actually born and raised here in Cyprus, and my parents are Greek Cypriots, unlike yours, and she's not welcomed here. Cyprus is full.
That's a beautiful thing to say. I'm visiting Paphos in September and hope to visit the northern part of the island. We all need to learn to live together, regardless of race or religion. Best wishes from England.
This tiny island means the world to me. My entire maternal side of the family are Maronites(Phoenicians) From Cyprus! God Bless Cyprus, may she remain free and just
Maronites is a good example of minority people,I have a deep respect and love for you.Minorities should fight for equality not fight to have more than the real residents.Respect to all of you Maronite Brothers from a GreekCypriot
Anti Uzbekistan happy to hear that my friend. I am Cypriot Maronite as well
Wow...i was "moved" by this documentary!....I was a young greek cyrpriot when we moved to Canada in '69,,,to this date I am a believer that there is room for "everyone" to co-exist on the island..it is a shame that after all these yrs, no one can come up with a resolution!
They can but they don’t want to. Peace doesn’t make power for politicians.
@@ismailtaskran9740 tell this to your country, Greece and the world want's a one state Cyprus, turkey want's a two state solution, but the Turkish side of Cyprus is illegal and a crime angaist international law's, literally Cyprus was native Greek land with Greeks living in it for 5000 thousands year's now, so turkey has no right in Cyprus.
@nikos X It's actually 9000 years. 😀👍
When ur land is taken & flee for your life, its hard to accept that you are not going back & ur land will no longer be yours…thats one of the major issues why there is no solution…another one is purely political: powersharing….other reasons too: Security after a solution and others etc etc…so its not hard now for you to understand why there is no solution…
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THE CYPRUS IS NUMBER ONE .LOVE YOU CYPRUS
Thank you
There are quite a lot of unfortunate errors at the above so call documentary. .please watch with caution
Lebanon 🇱🇧 and Cyprus 🇨🇾 are among my favorite countries in Europe.
Yes, actually, here in Cyprus, we did not know how to communicate with each other. We were doing just some sounds in order to communicate, and we were writing in hieroglyphics. Because of you, now we have civilization. Thanks British, you have saved us. And, we are sure that you loved us!! especially after killing many Cypriots, because they wanted to be free!
The British looked after only their own interests. They are the cause of the dichotomisation of Cyprus. They are the cause of the conflict in Israel. They are the cause of the troubles between India and Pakistan. They liked to divide in order to control their colonies until the went back to where they came from. Shame to the selfish British!
Very informative, thank you for sharing. Observing what is happening in Turkey and other places in the world, the words of those that wield power, references to rule of law, lets me understand a little more of the nature of humans to use law, or lack of it to get what they desire. I hope peace prevails, without anymore bloodshed, anywhere.
Thank you for your sincerity... you are welcome at any time to visit my country...
I will like to visit
lets see:1)Cypriots have the same language with grekks
2)Cypriots have the same religion with greeks
3)Cypriots have the same national hymn
4)Cypriots always use greek flags (they didnt alow as to use it so we had to make the "island flag"
i dont say give cyprus to greek or turkish just let the island alone and let them believe what they want
kitsis andreas it also: has the same religion as Turks, the same language, and well both sides don’t use the flag of turkey or Greece as a national flag so
What about Turkısh Cypriots?According to you: They never existed.And this is the reason what happened in 1974.The sooner you get that ,the faster we gt a solution.
lol , people , calm down , there is no such thing as bad people , every civilization has done bad things , But the thing is , the turkish military did indeed do bad things , Why don't we just forget about politics and armies , and bring peace to this beautiful island,Cyprus doesn't belong to greece neither to turkey, but the people that live in here... Cypriots , greeks and turks need to live toghether in harmony , in peace ...
good to see people like you in cyprus
Jim K Emilio Anastasi Gentlemen, greetings! Good points have been made throughout your comments, I liked the peaceful endeavors you support. It is true, Cyprus belongs to Cypriots (regardless of ethnicity). However I found it a little disappointing how you both waved off the events that led to the separation, and especially how Mr. K (Jim) claims that Turks do not want peace, nor unity, I think Mr. K, you do not follow the referendums, how the North have deliberately wanted to join, and how the South insistently said "OXI" (NO). Also I wasn't going to add anything to my agreements with your peaceful wishes, had you not pretended to not know why the Turkish military came to Cyprus. Why there was an intervention (you will say invasion, I know)? What was happening to the Turkish Cypriots on the island during 67-74? What is EOKA-B? I don't like these painful topics. That era was a nightmarish time for Cypriots (Greek&Turkish), including us Turks (from mainland), but we can't pretend why certain events unfolded the way they did. As long as we ignore our past, and the events that took place, we are cursed to repeat them. I want peace in Cyprus, unity, and harmony as much as you do. I want that Island to get rid, of any army that isn't the Cypriot army. But please lets not pretend that Cyprus was at all innocent, her government failed to keep peace, and failed to protect her citizens, chose to segregate and made way for fascist organizations such as EOKA-B to carry out planned hits and executions towards the Turkish Cypriots. We are aware of OUR mistakes, you too should be aware of yours. This way we can prevent future assholes from ruining our chances at a better life with each other. Efharisto my friends, and take care.
elbbd you are a very wise man, and i agree with you.
Jim K You claim that Turks didn't want a united community, I don't have to say that it's wrong, the community itself can answer for that. Until the late 50's the Turkish and Greek Cypriots were an inter-communal society, they were living in harmony (minus the British intervention and the Church's involvement). So the island had a Greek heritage (mind you the island wasn't "Greek" you are Cypriots be proud of this fact), and this heritage spanned back for around *3000*? years, ok... However the Turks have been living on that island for more or less 475 years, that's no small number even though its less than *3000*?. Don't forget, anyone born on that island is a natural citizen. Your approach to this issue is not objective at all I'm afraid and hidden in your civilized comments are sentiments that are too far right-wing. I wish non of these awful events had happened, but they did, and if you can't honestly face why they happened, if you can't turn the medallion around to see the mistakes that befall upon your government at that time (and even now) then sadly your perspective is bound to remain in a spectrum that's far too dim and narrow.
***** there's a wonderfull thing called google, go and search it
As a cypriot I would like to say that both of the sides have mistaken . We are all cypriots and we deserve for once to leave in our country all united with out other countries or people who don't know how both sides feel to interfere in our relationship.Blaming one the other we will gain nothing in the end
My parents and family (of Greek/Cypriot decent) lost their homes in the Northern Cyprus, during the 1974 uprising. They arrived in the US just before 1970. I was born in the US and have never visited my parent's home. My mother still holds deeds, many acres on the northern coast. My father passed many years ago, in the US. To this day, my mother still wants her property back. This occupation is illegal.
Sorry for what happened to your family. My parents (From Turkish Cypriot decent) had a home on the south side. They had to flee to north because of the uprising. To this day we still live in the north side. My parents were never able to get their stuff. Nor their home. Nor their money that they couldn't carry with them.
same here from pyroi
Sorry for your loss and your parents were probably innocent but no land mud nor clothes can repay the debt the Greeks owe the Turkish victims the orphans who were left behind Mothers fathers murdered for being Turk let’s not forget who started the War not the Turks
@@petercambulaso3858 the turks started it like they always do stop spreading misinformation
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I really never thought that I would ever hear a one sided unbiased argument on national geographic, there are a lit of inaccuracies, but one bothered me the most, that according to you the ottomans brought Islam to Cyprus even though it is well known that the early arabic islamic conquest took hold of cyprus more than 700 years before that, and although they didn't last for too long there but an agreement was reached between the caliphate and the Byzantine empire that Cyprus would remain a neutral zone where different people with different backgrounds could work and live in peace, there was a muslim population living there until they where terminated by the crusades.
A lot of emphasis was put on the religious aspects especially of the greek cypriot community, like it was religious adherence which divided the island!
Another issue is the portrayal of the Greek-Cypriot enclaved people in the Karpasia Peninsula. They are shown to be living happily under a very benevolent regime that does not infringe on their rights to practice their relighion. Unfortunately this is not the case.
having served, as a Canadian, with the U.N on Cyprus in the 70's I do not or will not qualify myself to "take sides" in the debate as to who are the legitimate inhabitants of this piece of rock. The "problem" is with the politics of religion and the fear, greed and mis-trust both have for one another
For that piece of rock thousands have given their lives...don't refer to to it as somerhing worthless...
costoninos2
"something worthless"? Your words - not mine. The Cypriot people I have had the opportunity of meeting were friendly and cordial (without exception) Yes, people have died on Cyprus (including some Canadians). As a then U.N "Peace keeper" I never bevame all that familiar with the allegations of which side did what. I suspect both parties have valid complaints about each other. My perspective has always been to keep the peace and not get involved with local politics. My disgust with the U.n"'s involvement on Cyprus is that it too was motivated by the agenda of U.S. backed corporate interests which had virtually nothing to do with the interests of the people on Cyprus
*****
"most dirty U.N. detachment"?? I would ask for details but it seems you dare not even reveal your name. Perhaps you shouldn't comment without bona fides
***** I will not defend the U.N or it's "Peace Keeping policies. I do not dispute the claims you make nor would I defend them. As soldiers, we get paid to do what our "leaders" order us to do. I did the best I could at protecting all parties of this cnflict. One thing I know to be fact is that I could have caused far more harm than I likely did and this has caused me great turmoil and has contributed to the P.T.S.D. I still experience from my time on Cyprus. I do not blame the Turkish or the Greek Cypriots but the U.S. foreign policies that provoked the actions which led to my being sent there.
***** I will die at some point. As will you and all other morons! Your hoping for me to die soon is somewhat like a wish for the sun to come out tomorrow. "Mercenary"? Aren't we all? So, in closing "I FLY TOO" you appear to be a moron with nothing new to contribute
Beautiful country i like it.....
its an island !!!
My wife spotted my cousin (3:01). I said what ever. So she paused it and said look again. There she was.
My best friend Panicos is from Cyprus.. he’s such a great guy!
My ancestors are from Cyprus. :)
Cyprus is Cyprus and "Cyprus is ONE".
After watching a bunch of documentaries on multiple countries, I am saddened to see how many conflicts are dividing and killing people everywhere on the planet. It's always based on the same divisions: religious, ethnic, language, gender, etc... When will humans will behave peacefully, and in unity, for the sake of purely appreciating life?
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I am an American who visited Cyprus in 2002. 8 months after 9-11. I stayed in the Village of Episcopi where there was a British military base very close. I vacationed
in what is call ArgoTourisum, where you live among the locals and not in a hotel with
a Restaurant and pool.I had the best 2 weeks of my entire life living among the kind
and couteous people of this majestic Island.I dared not cross into the usurped Turkish
side of the divided capital city of Nicosia.What good is the U.N.? Not!
When I, as an American, see the kinds of things some Greek and Turkish Cypriots are saying to each other here, it makes me sad, because I recognize it. The racial insults look too familiar to someone who has studied US history and seen the problems that were once so common between Americans of African and European descent.
The wounds here are a bit older--our Civil War was in the 1860s, not the 1970s--so they have had more time to begin to heal. For example, it is no longer acceptable here to call people names based on their race. I think that this will happen in Cyprus over time as well. Perhaps the existence of a claimant separatist state will impede things a bit, but it took about 100 years for the USA to go from the Civil War to the Civil Rights movement, so perhaps things will go better in Cyprus.
One thing that Americans have come to understand through experience is that if someone is born in a country, and raised in that country, and has only lived in that country, then he or she has no other home. This is true whether that person's ancestors have lived in that country for 3000 years, 400 years, or even 40 years.
In America, during the days when racism was not frowned upon as it is now, it was common for white people to tell black people that they should "go back to Africa." The black people to whom they were saying this had never been to Africa, or learned about African culture, or spoken the language of their ancestral African tribes. They had never had a home but here, so they could not go "back" to anywhere else.
Most of my ancestors were from Germany (a few were Scottish, which is where I get my last name). My ancestors have not lived here in America for much more than 150 years, far less than either the Greek or Turkish Cypriots have lived in Cyprus. There a few Native Americans (what we Americans call the tribes of people whose ancestors lived here before Europeans began to move in) who would say that my ancestors took their land and everything, and I should go back to Europe. But I have never had a home in Europe. I have never even been to Germany, and do not speak the German language. If America were not my home, I would not have a home, or a place to go. I believe this is the way it is now with most Cypriots, regardless of their Greek or Turkish ancestors.
I know your wounds are much fresher; there are many people alive who remember the killing that happened only 40 years ago. But still, you must not blame every Turk, or every Greek. Many of them did not do any killing. I would especially encourage the young people who have been born since the divide to avoid blaming other young people for a problem that happened before you, or they, were born.
I call on all Cypriots who read this, whether you are Greek, Turkish, or from somewhere else: Do not make the same mistakes that were made in the history of my country in the days of the Jim Crow laws. Do not hate someone because of their ancestors or skin color. Do not think that their "true home" is a place they have never been, just because their ancestors came from there 400 years ago, or even 40 years ago. If you avoid making these mistakes, you can bring about healing in your land. The healing will not be instant, just like the healing of those who still grieve for family members who were killed in the violence, but there is hope.
Philip McNiel Do remember, the U.S.A not only played a major role in causing everything, but did nothing to help Cyprus until recently with Obama, and then forgot everything all over again with Trump.
If you are implying that the USA was completely innocent, you are either lying or know little about history. It is common knoledge in Cyprus that becauseof good relations with Russia, NATO feared Cyprus’ fall to communism, granting the Soviets a very strategic location. Nato’s solution was to give the Turkish major control over the island. You may not have known that the head of Cypriot affairs with the U.S.A did not even care while the invasion was happening, or perhaps, he did care, he wanted it to happen! Do you not know the saying ΝΑΤΟ ΣΙΑ ΠΡΟΔΟΣΙΑ, or in your language NATO CIA BETRAYAL! There is, in fact, recent a video in youtube that perfectly illustrates my point, not that it is my sole base.
I am not implying, of course, that racism is not a problem, as I agree with you in the tipic completely. I am only extremely disgusted by the common examples of American nationalistic indoctrination you show, as racism is as prominent in Cyprus as it is there. Whether by that I mean actually prominent depends on perspective.
the hyphen needs to be removed from our identity as we are all Cypriots, still flying two flags.... we have a long way to go
All I am saying is that there are 2 type of ethnic Turkish people living in the island now. 1 is the original Turkish Cypriots who have been living in there all along since the empire. The other one is the settlers. Saying that TMT killed the TC is an incredibly serious acusation which must be investigated in the Rep. of Turkey and International courts as a warcrime. Though I haven't seen or heard of any TC testimony about this in my entire life. However I have seen many about the EOKA-B
Cyprus is for Cypriots who are strong and fearless to defend what they believe in against the Politicians, Religious establishments, and those who become very rich at the expense of all the innocent Cypriots whether Greek or Turk after what happened in 1974. Greeks toppled their own President Makarios to unite the island with Greece (ENOSIS) and they gave a chance and a reason for Turkey to come and invade the island to save the Turkish population. Lots of people died on both sides who had nothing to do with what happened but hey great American civilization calls it collateral damage and it is because of their greed that people all over the world suffer every day. Soooo SAD.
It's neither prejudice nor patriotism that disadvantages entrepreneurs from the turkish occupied part of the island in their attempts to sell their products to markets in the area controlled by the legitimate government of the Republic of Cyprus. These "entrepreneurs" are exploiting land that rightfully belongs to Greek Cypriots who were forced out of their ancestral homes by the turkish military in an act of ethnic cleansing.
The International Criminal Court clearly defines Turkey's actions of deportation, forcible transfer of
population and implantation of settlers as war crimes.
Why didn't you talk about the EOKA and ENOSIS
Because Cyprus a Greek island since 4000 years ago wanted to officially join with Greeks. Native of cyprus are Greeks. Turkish people have only been thier since 500 years ago. Ottaman Empire invaders
do you want to compare what we did to you and what you did to us we have killed 200-300 people you have killed thousands of us and you did a lot of war crimes on 1974
Hence , no peace on the island, as Greek nationalism and nationalists are racist , intolerant and bigoted . There idea that the island existed in communal harmony is fantasy ... Sadly no balance in this film, no Turkish Cypriot refugees interviewed for example is one glaring omission ! Another is showing no examples of Turkish victims or missing persons, why ? It's not because of lack of victims predating 1974. It seems this film was very selective in showing Greeks in a certain light ... certainly not the violence and terrorist atrocities committed against the British and the Turks .... I wonder why?
Having this opinion shows strongly how horribly educated you are, and yes Turkish Cypriot refugees interviewed throughout the years and do show them saying that life as a community was much more better. Cyprus was a strong connected island before the war. So connected that Greek and Turkish woman was even breastfeeding each others infants when they didn't have much breast milk or for work necessities. You dont know so just keep your opinion to your self....or better go leave on BOTH sides and then come again and share your opinion. And also mr. whoever you are.... think for a bit that...Turk Cypriots (as we call them) come to the Greek Cypriots ( as we call them ) goes to the FREEEEEEE side of the island ( as all the island call it even Turk Cyprios ) and ask for help and guess what....They get a house jobs and non stop benefits -- note here that if you are a Greek Cypriot and go ask for a benefits if you dont comply with the law you get nothing -- oh yeah i forgot that greeks are racists and bla bla bla. And dont even get me started for more
Ottoman Empire received Cyprus from Genoese, not from Greeks bitch. learn some history
Η αμήχανη στιγμή που περιμένεις ένα ιστορικό ντοκιμαντέρ από μια σοβαρή πηγή και τελικά είναι ακόμη μία γλοιώδης προπαγάνδα...
National geographic !
Lonv ago ,your magazine wrote also about the island.
Somehow, I'm mentioned in there ,somewhere
It was something about wall paintings/ frescos , in a Christian church.
Nevertheless.
I must mention, as a Cypriot ,
That ,unfortunately the north part of my country Cyprus, is still half almost occupied by Turkey since 1974
MILITARY OCCUPATION
Very true. It is sad what is happening there. Beautiful country with so much history.
unfortunately the turks invaded and occupy the northern half of cyprus...where there are Turks disaster follows
My beautiful mother
Motherland Turkey
Hope the young generation of both Turkish & Greek Cypriot realize that what have happened in the past was just for individual benefits & it has nothing with the ethics. I have lived for 4 years in Cyprus & i got many Cypriots friends and all were telling me the same. Both ethics used to live together with no problems. All these things has made up by the British.
I don't get it! Since it's been 39 years ago the Island got divided.
It's just a Greece and Turkey issue. Why can't Cyprus just be Cyprus . People who live next to and with eachother.
I live in a country where there are 177 different nationalities and we all try to get along.. We don't divide our country into 177 pieces because of our differences.. Everyone is different..It would be kinda boring if we were all the same ;-) But we can all put in some effort to live in a peacefull place.
I certainly did my research very well in that issue. Also I know what it feels like to be driven from your home.
When you say the island is Greek it is a spit on the faces of Turkish Cypriots who Greek EOKA-B gathered violently killed.
You had responsibilty to protect those people as you protect your own. The minute you turned blind to ethnic cleansing in the island the minute you choosed your side. Republic of Turkey used their right of being a "Guarantor State" period do your own research
MrNotebookguy u are very mistaken. Turkey doesn’t care about their people they used them as an excuse to get on the island. The United States only let them do so, so that they have a firm it grip on the island Incase the Cold War truly became a war. Turkey didn’t care for the Turkish Cypriots in 1878 when they sold them with the Greeks to the English 😂. They only care about them when they want to care.
There was no ethnic cleansing the turks started the conflict stop spreading misinformation.
Turkish invasion of Cyprus is illegal. The proclamation of a Turkish state at the north is illegal. IN FACT no country, except Turkey of course (HA HA HA) recognises its legality. It's a state that does not exist as a state. Only Turkey recognises it because it is ILLEGAL. The state of Northern Cyprus is ILLEGAL according to international law. It is a FAKE state. FAKE as YOU are.
În anul 1972 arată așa dr frumos oare cum ar fi arătat în 2015 dacă nu se intampla ceia ce sa întâmplat
The island needs to put their problems aside and give the island back to the proper owners.
the neolithic anatolians! yes!
@@iamcem Idiot!
Thank you for the upload! :D
Everyone is a settler in the island
First settlers in Cyprus went there 9000 years ago.
Cyprus is Greek and always will be Greek no matter what the newcomers Turks say and do. Just look at the archeological sites on the island and its history.
i voted yes for the annan plan but from what i understand from friends that voted no they thought that TC needs would be satisfied within a few weeks but some of the greek cypriot refugees would not get their property back threfore they thought it favoured the TC.
they also thought a solution would come later on that favoured the GC better. like u said a solution that satisfies all the GC needs is impossible. they were quite confident about another solution.
Akel ' vote no for a better yes'. It turned out to be the final nail in the coffin.
9 years later still both sides are divided, I left my country Cyprus for Sweden now, it holds no good future and a lot teenagers end up leaving..
Watch 1974 cyprus conflict Ambiguous differences a real eye opener.
Dear Nat Geo,
Please keep to the natural beauty of the island and leave politics aside. You are obviously uninformed or willingly misleading.
Thanks
What's this gem of information to do with Cyprus?
Cyprus was divided into a Turkish Cypriot state in the north and a Greek Cypriot administration in the south after a 1974 military coup was followed by violence against the island's Turkish population, and the subsequent intervention of Turkey as a guarantor power.
Stop acting as if the island was evenly split. 80% greeks, 20% turks
Cyprus is 100% Turkish
Slag Catherine would love to see ya fellow Greeks try the Turks would embarrass you 😂 so go keep watching movies like 300
after 74 turks now 1 and half billion : ) how you will you kick turks? wake up from a dream.you will have a nightmare .eoka enosis made this. congratulations catherine .
@@cypcyp6494 Maybe those 1 and a half billion should do a DNA test, I think you'll find most of them are Greek! I was brought up as Turkish Cyoriot my family are all Turkish muslims. I did a dna test & guess what I am Greek & you probably are too.
@KoivuTheHab ask to turkey : )
The music is too too loud!
Greece shouldn't have attempted a coup d'etat..
True but turkey shouldnt have forced people out of their homes or commited genocide
Turkey was the one that invaded.
@@NotoriousPepe Turkey was the one that invaded ILLEGALLY. The state they created at the north of Cyprus is a FAKE state. No country in the whole world recognises it, except ... Turkey. LMAO It's ridiculous.
Okay, someone please, you must tell me, what is that grooviness being played at 5:00? Seriously, I'm bored to death here and I want to get down to that in its entirety.
MeAmbros."The Cost Of The Combined Greek Bailout Just Rose To €320 Billion In Secured Debt" so what's so great about the 1 billion ($ Euros?) that Turkey receives from who?? There's a big difference between investments or short term loans and a huge bailout that can NEVER be repaid. That means you are enslaved to the creditors terms.They dictate how your economy and govt is run.That's why the EU deposed Papandreou and Berlusconi. Greece, Italy, and Cyprus lost their democracy for the bailout.
Well another fact about Cyprus is that most airlines based there go bust. First Cyprus airways and then Cobalt
I do not dissagree with you about our first president and the role of church my friend, but I think that you are smart enough to understand that your empire ruled the world by sword. Yes I also agree that you spread all the above you mensioned, but again you also "devide and conquer" and this is how you devided my island. What you have never understood is that we still like the British and we still use some of the ways you used to use, to run the country.
Cyprus is Phoenician 🇱🇧
I was referring to the settlers after 1974. most GC have nothing against the Turkish population that was here before the division.its their home too.i doubt we'll get another chance to send them back. The Annan plan in my opinion was the best both sides could do and most of the GC blew it
If you really have land in Turkish side of Cyprus you can always sell it to Turkish authorities.
1- You can exchange your land in north with a Turkish person who has land left in south
2- You can sell it through court if you find the price worth it.
3- I am not sure but probably if your land is on a beach or something you can also rent it. But I am not sure.
Both GC and TC can pass each others land
Lebanon must join the European Union 🇱🇧🇪🇺
CYPRUS IS GREEK
Random Person you’re an idiot.
Random Person .... still looks like you’re an idiot and need to get some history lessons. My mother ran from the turks as they illegally took her home and killed anyone that gave them problems. 40 years later, its still under ILLEGAL occupation, and every EU country recognizes it as that. Its Greek Cypriot land. So shut the fuck up, stop talking out of your ass and go troll somewhere else.
CYPRUS IS TURKISH
hayhah Rkririfk go fuck yourself
Panos Constantinou you fuck yourself
Unfortunately I don't live in Cyprus that's why I do not vote for any parties:(
Akel having a very good Turkish language website I think is the best thing I have ever heard about the relations in the Island.
As I understood AKEL members suffered from both extremist sides EOKA-B and TMT. The last TC AKEL member was killed by the TMT.
You guys really rock in terms of liberty, respect one another and tolerance.
If Cyprus ever becomes united again I am quite sure you will have many TC votes.
No one says anything about the truth on why 1974 happened in Cyprus. Makarios went to America and asked for a loan from the then-American President Richard Nixon, but he was refused. Then he went to Russia and asked President Leonid Brezhnev for a loan and promised that he will give them a base on the island. When Nixon heard about this he let the Greek Junta in Greece collaborate with the head of the EOKA-B Nicos Samson to topple Makarios. According to the Cyprus Constitution, The President of Cyprus will be a Greek Cypriot always elected by the Greek Cypriots and the Vise President will be Turkish Cypriot always elected by the Turkish Cypriots. Of course, Nixon knew that Turkey would interfere as a guarantor power, and they did. Turkey tried to invade the island a few times before during 60"s but was stopped by the American 6th fleet. Because America has been the colonial power during the 20th century they do things to suit their purpose so they allowed Turkey to invade the island under the disguise of saving the Turkish Cypriots. This time the 6th fleet was in the Red Sea but they did stop the Turks after they took a portion of the island by deploying the 6th fleet back in the Cyprus waters. Everybody knows what they did in Iraq and Afghanistan by saying that they had WEAPONS of MASS DESTRUCTION which was a lie that we all found out about it afterwards and because of it few million people died because of it. Whoever is the most powerful country in the world design the fate of others like any other colonial power that we have seen in history. I can only say to both communities that stop fighting each other and realize who the real culprit is and sort your differences out and live in peace together as you did in the past. As Cyprus is called the JEWEL of the Mediterranean you can all be rich from tourism alone and prosper together. Good luck and God Bless, Life is good if you know how to live it.
Why don't you show us how to do it?
I don't agree with the man talking at 9:30. There are Cypriot nationals. I am one of them. We are the one's (from both 'sides') who believe in a single Cypriot nationality - no Greeks, no Turks - just Cypriots.
It's because of nationalist idiots (from both 'sides') that it all got ruined for all of us!
With the help of the British of course. Let's never forget that.
false, my friend. Just because you say 3 words differently doesn't make you a different person. I understood everything the greeks said in the video with ease. That is like saying cretans aren't greeks. Just because you want to feel "special" and call yourself "cypriot" doesn't mean you're not a fucking greek.
Panayiotis Xenakis you understood every word because you are Cretan. your dialect is very similar to ours. we don't want to feel special - we are an independent nation since 1960..something Cretans wished and tried for but failed repeatedly, so don't give me this bullshit that we are fucking greeks..the majority on the island are of greek descent, but not all of us. get your facts right
Cretans rebelled against Ottoman trying to unite with mother Greece in 1821-1829,1840-1841,1854,1866-1869,1878,1896-1897,1905.STOP LYING.Of Greek descent you said ?Cretans and Cypriots are the definition of Hellenism.You IGNORANT idiot.
Stalo N ih
based on the articles of both the Greek (2nd article) and the Cypriot (1st article) constitution, Greek is called someone who is either born in Greece or someone who is mother tongue is Greek, is Christian Orthodox and participates in Greek cultural traditions. Therefore we are considered to be Greeks not by claiming that we were born in Greece, but because (1) in Cyprus our official language is Greek and we speak the Cypriot dialect which is derived from Greek language (2) we are Christians Orthodox and (3) as a country we participate and celebrate in all Greek cultural traditions. Also you should not forget that the first habitants of our island were Greeks. You cannot refuse your ethnic inheritance we should be proud of who we are.
Nice, but I just can't understand (neither accept) why the narrator keeps mentioning every time Turks before Greeks: 1) We (Greeks) were and still are the majority of the population of the island 2) The Republic of Cyprus, inhabited by Greeks, is the only sovereign and internationally recognized state on the island 3) We have been living on this island since 1500 BC (almost 3500 years!) whereas Turks have been here only 400 years. 4)Even G comes before T in the alphabet!
Since you seem to know NOTHING of Cypriot history you shouldn't say we are acting like kids. In 1974 a WAR took place in Cyprus with people dead, displaced and missing because of a problematic relationship between the 2 communities. Its a quite popular tendncy among foreigners to support the Turks and an attitude like this can hide even the simplest details like the one a I wrote in the first place.
nicon1391 The desire for superiority is the signifying weakness in your ideology. You're the offspring of a generation that grew apart in hatred and ignorance of the Turkish Counterparts of the island. You've never seen unity and yet preach feelings that deny peace, and show extreme prejudice towards the Turkish Cypriots. I doubt that you have the courtesy nor the courage to research your (Cypriot) history and what has driven the island to divide. Sadly you try to uphold one end above the other, Greeks over Turks, Christianity over Islam, and you fail to see that you like others are just human, and that cultures and religious beliefs are for one's individual practice, that everyone can be equal. It is easy to hate, easy to kill, easy to fear, and only the weak tend to follow this trend, try to be stronger in your inner conscience, try to love and understand. Those who live in the north are no longer the people that you can blame for '74. They are no longer alive. The same goes for the south, the culprits of the EOKA-B are either all dead or about to die, so the North has no one to blame anymore. The island is one, but the tainted ideologies keep a sharp and an invisible line between people. Yes, the Greek Cypriots may have inhabited the land for ~3500 years, but you can't simply denounce a people who have also lived on the same land together for ~500 years, just because mathematically its smaller. Try to measure it by the human life span. Both sides lose by having the island divided and only countries like Britain can benefit from this. Please wake up, both sides needs to open their minds and hearts. A united Cyprus is a strong Cyprus!
elbbd Your opinion is generally correct and completely respectable but seems to have several weaknesses. First of all, telling the truth, because this information is a matter of truth, doesn't represent weakness. It is really common nowadays to consider expressing true facts as seeking to prevail over the others, especially in the case of Cyprus. And in this occasion the whole issue of this conversation based on the video is strongly depended on an effort of propaganda by foreign forces to deform willingly the history of the island in favour of the Turkish Cypriot community. Moreover, I think you are being naive, just thinking of saying what you wrote to those who are engaged with the negotiations of the Cyprus dispute, they will ignore you completely, especially the UN representatives who have never solved one single issue on global base. And also I don't denounce the Turks, they denounce us! That's why the vast majority of the Turkish Cypriots were in favour of the Turkish invasion in 1974 who ravaged the island, knowing from the beginning the consequences of this event (of course the disgraced Greek government of that time gave them an excuse to do so). Even Turkish Cypriots today consider this incident as a great mistake. But now its too late to make a change, since the Turkish troops will never leave the island since they have set foot on it... Everyone wants Cyprus united but not all in the same way. I am far from ignorant and (supposing you are not Cypriot) its easy for you to play the game of (mistakenly) maintaining balance.
nicon1391 Just think of what I wrote in the first place. Even if we don't take into consideration factors 1 and 3 about history and population numbers, can you explain why they keep making such references ignoring politics and letters, which are common sense issues that no one can deny? What is irrational in my remark?
nicon1391 Okay, now going back to what you've said, "...propaganda by foreign forces to deform willingly the history of the island in favour of the Turkish Cypriot community." If anybody was in favor of the Turkish Cypriot community they would have recognized the north as a sovereign nation and have not even placed an embargo to begin with, so lets trash that allegation. You have also mentioned that, "... majority of the Turkish Cypriots were in favour of the Turkish invasion in 1974..." yes, they have supported it and wanted it because they were being systematically targeted and executed. If the '74 intervention (I know you'll call this invasion) did not occur, there would be no Turks left on the island of Cyprus. Why do I say this? How come I'm so sure? Well, history tends to repeat itself, because the humans that write that history tend to keep on to their habits, for example: Crete, 1820's, massive organized mobs hunted down Turks and other Muslims on the island, those who could escape saved their lives, those who couldn't were brutally murdered. Today there are no Turks left on the island of Crete, and the reason is quite apparent. Such events are often "forgotten" or "dismissed" by Greeks and Greek Cypriots, but when it comes to Turks they never forget what we did, to the point of exaggeration. I do not claim that we are angels. Anyone in this world with a sound mind can not claim such a thing for themselves. But what most do is the most common mistake, they disregard their own crimes, and try to volley allegations and accusations against their opposition. We must all accept our mistakes, and recognize them, so that we can prevent them from happening again. I do not find the '74 intervention as a joyous event, nor am I proud of it, but we were forced to do it, and because of it we were bankrupt. Why do I mention the financial aspect of this? Money is never as important as human life, I know this, however my point here is that we didn't do this military operation out of pure pleasure as some would like to claim. We were going through hard times, and it happened only because it was necessary. There are third party records that you check for yourself, showing that the Turkish Republic tried every suitable way to solve this issue, and left the choice of military action to the very end. Greece was going through a coup and had severed all diplomatic ties with Turkey, England dismissed our calls for help. At every passing moment the situation was escalating out of control, and the Cypriot government had lost their grip on EOKA-B. There were no one protecting the Turkish Cypriots, some kind Greek Cypriots put their own lives on the line to hide and protect their Turkish friends, but only some could benefit from this.
It really did favour the TC less than the current situation really.
If I am not it included
-Majority of the settlers from Turkey to go back where they come from.
-GC gain almost half of the lost territory at TC expense.
-Ports in the North of Cyprus.
I also think that would normalize the relations between Turkey and Cyprus.
Most of the Turkish people in Turkey doesn't know about Cyprus anymore than this "Evil Greeks killed Turks therefore Turkey took the North of Cyprus" nothing else about it.
Is the narrator Sean Pertwee ?
done a holyday in cyprus its a nice island and very hot summers, have some videos and pics on my channel about cyprus - Saint Hilarion Castle.
I am from Cyprus!
mprabo na sherese
Must be nice
These devils will pay for their crimes praise Christ who sees and will deal with them in his time
We, Cypriots, are passionate people. We love everyone easily, but that passion can turn into passionate hate with the right propaganda. Turk-Cypriots and Greek-Cypriots are CYPRIOTS. We can live together, we already live together everyday in the Malls and in the Ledra streets. Its just the nationalistic political leaders that have issues between them and the people pay the price. Erdogan is a fascist and will never let the Turk-Cypriots unite with their Greek-Cypriot brothers. The past is the past, when people like Makarios and Denktash could manipulate and fuel with hatred the minds of the youth. Now we are in 2018, we have internet, we know what really happened AND we can change this together. NO Greece, NO Turkey, JUST CYPRUS. This island belongs to us. We respect our motherlands, we acknowledge that we are Greek or Turks, but this our island. We live in this island, not Erdogan or Tsipras and we want to be free from armies and oppression. We want to advance into the future and evolve ourselves as people. Not remain stuck in the past like miserable creatures.
Cyprus for Cypriots....we love you Cyprus
I thought a bit of recorded fact might help the "debate" (Source Wiki)
The Greek Cypriots trace their origins to the descendants of the Mycenaean Greeks who settled on the island during the second half of the second millennium BC.
The island gradually became part of the Hellenic world as the settlers prospered over the next centuries. Alexander the Great conquered the island from the Persians in 333 BC.
After the division of the Roman Empire in 285 AD, Cypriots had home rule for almost nine centuries under the jurisdiction of the Byzantine Empire, something not seen again until 1960.[citation needed]
Perhaps the most important event of the early Byzantine period was the local church's independence from the Patriarchate of Antioch and All the East in 431. The bishop of the ancient capital Salamis (renamed Constantia by Emperor Constantius II) was constituted metropolitan by Emperor Zeno, with the title archbishop.
The Byzantine era profoundly molded Greek Cypriot culture. The Greek Orthodox Christian legacy bestowed on Greek Cypriots in this period would live on during the succeeding centuries of foreign domination. Because Cyprus was never the final goal of any external ambition, but simply fell under the domination of whichever power was dominant in the eastern Mediterranean, destroying its civilization was never a military objective or necessity.
The Cypriots did however endure the oppressive rule of first the Lusignans and then the Venetians from the 1190s through to 1570. King Amaury, who succeeded his brother Guy de Lusignan in 1194, was particularly intolerant of the Orthodox Church. Greek Cypriot land was appropriated for the Latin churches after they were established in the major towns on the island. In addition, tax collection was also part of the heavy oppressive attitude of the occupiers to the locals of the island, in that it was now being conducted by the Latin churches themselves.
The Ottoman conquest of Cyprus in 1571 delivered the Greek population from serfdom and servitude to the Latin church. Cypriot Greeks were now able to take control of the land they had been working on for centuries. The local Christians resumed practicing their religion in the only acceptable way they knew. The patriarch serving the Ottoman sultan also acted as ethnarch, or leader of the Greek nation, thus enabling the local Orthodox representative to practice decidedly secular powers, for instance in adjudicating justice and in the collection of taxes.
Despite the inherent oppression of foreign subjugation, the period of Ottoman rule (1570-1878) had a limited impact on Greek Cypriot culture. The Ottomans tended to administer their multicultural empire with the help of their subject millets, or religious communities. The tolerance of the millet system permitted the Greek Cypriot community to survive, administered on behalf of Constantinople by the Archbishop of the Church of Cyprus, who became the community's head, or ethnarch.
Although religiously tolerant, Ottoman rule was generally harsh and inefficient. Turkish settlers suffered alongside their Greek Cypriot neighbors, and the two groups together endured centuries of oppressive governance from Constantinople.
A minority of Greek Cypriots converted to Islam during this period, and are sometimes referred to as "neo-Muslims" by historians.[10][11]
Cypriot cuisine, as with Greek cuisine, was imprinted with the spices and herbs made common as a result of extensive trade links within the Ottoman Empire. Names of many dishes came to reflect the sources of the ingredients from the many lands under the Ottoman rule. Coffee houses pervasively spread throughout the island into all major towns and countless villages.
Politically, the concept of enosis - unification with the Greek "motherland" - became important to literate Greek Cypriots after Greece declared its independence from the Ottoman Empire in 1821. A movement for the realization of enosis gradually formed, in which the Church of Cyprus played a dominant role (see "Cyprus dispute").
During British rule (1878-1960), the British brought an efficient colonial administration, but government and education were administered along ethnic lines, accentuating differences. For example, the education system was organized with two Boards of Education, one Greek and one Turkish, controlled by Athens and Istanbul, respectively.[citation needed] The resulting education emphasized linguistic, religious, cultural, and ethnic differences and ignored traditional ties between the two Cypriot communities.[citation needed] The two groups were encouraged to view themselves as extensions of their respective motherlands, and the development of two distinct nationalities with antagonistic loyalties was ensured.[13]
The importance of religion within the Greek Cypriot community was reinforced when the Archbishop of the Church of Cyprus, Makarios III, was elected the first president of the Republic of Cyprus in 1960. For the next decade and a half, enosis was a key issue for Greek Cypriots, and a key cause of events leading up to 1974 when Turkey invaded and occupied the northern part of the island. The island remains divided today, with the two communities almost completely separated. Many Greek Cypriots, most of whom lost their homes, lands and possessions during the Turkish invasion, emigrated mainly to the UK, USA, Australia, South Africa and Europe. There are today estimated to be 335,000 Greek Cypriot emigrants living in Great Britain. The majority of the Greek Cypriots in Great Britain currently live in England; there is an estimate of around 3,000 in Wales and 1,000 in Scotland. By the early 1990s, Greek Cypriot society enjoyed a high standard of living. Economic modernization created a more flexible and open society and caused Greek Cypriots to share the concerns and hopes of other secularized West European societies. The Republic of Cyprus joined the European Union in 2004, officially representing the entire island, but suspended for the time being in the Turkish occupied north.
Before Cyprus was ceded to Britain fit had been under Ottoman rule for more than 300 years. Prior to that it was Lusignan, Venetian, Roman.The Greek presence has been negligible even during Byzantine times. It was the British who encouraged Greek immigration due to some twisted ideas of Greece being the origin of Western civilization. Greek xenophobia which fueled their EOKA terror campaign against Britain and later against the Turks ensured they would lose 1/3 of the Island. Poetic justice.
I hope one day the differences between the two ethnic groups fade and Cyprus could be a united nation again.
I understand. But, babe, you've to realize that the Turkish people won't never go away, they've the same right to be there as the Greeks. It's better to share the land and live in peace; because no one will win if a war breaks through. Forget the past and live the present: they both share the same land, they both have the same right to live there.
I understand. I read about Cyprus' history and that's truly Greek territory, even the mythology says that Aphrodite was born there. And I'm sorry to hear about all those Greek bodies and about all the sufferin'. And of course, you the Greeks have the upper hand, but what's done is done, you can't kill or expel the Turkish people livin' there. You've to deal with present and accept them as your brothers and sisters, Cypriots. War only will bring more suffering and a longer hatred.
The only way is acceptance, forgiveness and peace.
From both sides, of course.
You don't need and you mustn't forget, love, just forgive... Let it go and open your arms to peace.
Well, babe, get ready to live a sad life, full of hatred. Hey, life is what it is. Shit happens.
You know what is the problem, firstly i would like to say that Cyprus has been under the greek empire for a long time and many of our cultures are similar to that of Greece. However, Cyprus is not just greek, theres turkish cypriots, maronites, armenians and latin-cypriots. Furthermore, i would like to say that Cypriot is not a dialect but a language, along time ago the languages ancient greek and proto-cypriot were along the side we had our own writing and our own words but cypriot dialect was considered similar to ancient Greek and was converted by alexander the great. Just look at it as being spanish and catalan. From after we were invaded by many other civilisations. i would also like to state turkey was never turkey it was persia before any other person says its turkish which is not and turks originated from Asia so that concludes that cyprus has never been yours. Furthermore before people say cyprus comes from turkey in terms of geology that is still unknown, it has also been shown that the island cyprus is a segment of the sunken island 'Atlantis' you can google this. Now about the latest problems of cyprus as we can see there has been alot of problem with cypriots due to brainwashed helenizism and attomanism propaganda. It has created confusion of how cypriots have been portrayed. we may have greek, turkish, spanish this and that DNA so what, it has come to a realisation that now we are an own ethnicity and this is proven in genetics. It has been proven that turkish and greek cypriots have similar DNA that to Greeks or turks, so what does that tell you, furthermore while researching diseases mutations of specific diseases vary according to race, from what i have seen that greek cypriots have different mutations to that of a greek and turkish person of the same disease in fact. Greeks and turks carry mostly the same mutations for specific disease, take note!!!! Now in terms of politics in cyprus it has been trying to get independence because not being funny Greece hasn't looked after cyprus properly, There was a greek-cypriot and a turkish cypriot genocide. Greek-cypriot was worse due to a larger population and because turkish army are like dogs sorry to say but thats the truth. No army has massacred races like the turkish army, despite that i dont have anything again turkish community. Now the genocides that occur on cyprus were based on ideology of greek and turkish nationalism, which we can see had corrupted and caused many issues in cyprus, cyprus needs to bring this barrier down. I believe the best way is for everyone to learn how to speak cypriot and i think its good idea to make cypriot an official langauge and know how to write it, i believe in that way it would make everyone feel they belong in the island. The turkish army needs to get lost as well, but also if for harmony to occur people need to respect each other religions and religious monuments, the hala sulta teke has not been harmed where as many orthodox churches have been broken down, used as ways of getting money and i think its ridiculous. People need to realise that we have our own government, and own way of speaking and our own people and its time for us to be independent and not sucking on the tits of the motherlands. And on the contrary i would look to say that turkish and greek people will never consider ourselves as being like them, they take the piss of how we speak, how we do things, i am not saying all do but those nationalistic nazis doooo. Yes bloody nazis because thats whats caused this mess. And if Cyprus to be reunited it should be a state that is well educated with learning many languages and cultures while holding to our roots which we have had as well, well the goods of those roots.
***** i wrote in fricking english for everyone to understand, whats the problem, and the fact you think i am talking crap shows you don't know nothing about your history, and yes i am a charlie and fricking proud, when your a cypriot who has lift abroad you can see things about your country compare to someone who lives in that country. I can tell your bloody ignorant, which doesn't surprise me.
malakia les, h kypriotides enai ellines, ta idia skata. Egw mporousa na kataleveno OLA pou ipane h anthropoi mesa sto video. Eimaste ellines, kai an den mporeis na katalavenies afto eisai prodotis.
I will visit there in ages month nice to know some friend from there
Any dating
I really was crying at the end of that
rambot1992 obviously doesn't know anythng but u cant demand from him to respect u when the only thing you've done is lay the blame at greek cypriots.
not all the greek cypriots took part in eoka b and not all all the turkish cypriots were in tmt but the way u talk about greek cypriots its like for u the tmt was a holy organisation and it was all the greek cypriots fault
the tmt played a major role in dividing the island by killing turkish cypriots to frame eoka b and make the situation worse
You no nothing of the Cyprus Dispute
THIS IS BIASED TOWARD THE ANNAN PLAN (and makes no serious attempt to weigh the points of each side)
The whole documentary was too focused on life in the north and south, failing to establish the situation.
As far as I understand, Turkey up and invaded Cyprus. Was the intercommunal violence something that could not be dealt with diplomatically? I don't know; this video made no inquiry.
The fact is, the true story is undoubtedly in favor of the GCs, and NatGeo didn't want to sound biased.
Read a book called The Genocide Files. This will unveil the truth of what went on in Cyprus. It is also unbiased. The book is spot on. Some who read it will find it hard to accept and some will get very upset. Bottom line a Genocide was taking place in Cyprus since the 1950's. I'll let those interested in the truth to read the book
My father who is Turkish Cypriot gave this book to me and I still need to read it. He witnessed a lot of brutality and now here we are in England, he was 15 when he left Cyprus was going to be a pilot was studying aviation but his dreams were shattered when he became an immigrant in the UK, then suffered a barrage of racism. He still has deeds to the properties he grew up in in Limassol that he can't claim because Greeks are living there. I think this documentary is a little biased. Turks wanted to create a unification but the Greeks don't want it.
the only trait between the to sides is fireckarckers
Thanks this is nuturol comment what u say
I meant everyone is living in someone elses property.
If you are unhappy (obviously) with the settlers came to North after 1974.
That's fine make a treaty with Turkey to sent them back (just like it was in the Annan Plan)
But if you have problems with the Turkish population who has been living there even before the Republic of Turkey & Greece & Cyprus was build, we have to say "hang on a minute" you have to live together if not we will divide the island
cyprus is hellenic forever
Cyprus is Turkish and will remain Turkish forever.
Wrong!! Cyprus is Cypriot. If you want to be Greek go to Greece. If you want to be Turkish go to Turkey.
if the annan plan was put now im sure the results would be different but i dare say we missed our chance for a solution in 2004.
GREEK ISLAND
TURKISH ISLAND
@@hayhahrkririfk4630 You ruined this island. This is why you call it Turkish. Cyprus has been Greek for thousands of years. You came and you ruined it. You must be so proud of it. Why don't you go back to where you came from? Did they kick you out of there?
@@hayhahrkririfk4630Greek island
Great! At least you see the strategic interest of Russia in all of this.
what about 'india' it was created as result of British rule. Before the british were in South Asia and brought the name, what is today called "India" was dozens of princely states which were independent till the British put them into "india." Also "hinduism" is a British creation as well. What you wrote about Australia is undisputed, and I 100% agree. Even America, Canada, New Zealand were built on the ashes of the indigenous peoples
we have TC members though they dont reach the numbers they once did in 50s and 60s. the first 2 years when we were in power in 2008 Christophias and talat met regularly and there was real hope for a solution. then though with the explosion at mari and the economic crisis we lost a lot of our popularity and we lost the elections in February to Anastasiades.
unlike many other parties we did not support eoka a or eoka b leading to the killings of many of us.
there south and north winds
Cyprus Cyprus is the one and only
I think the best way to separate two countries the hate war two different religions, impossible to solve
Cyprus is divided cause turkey invaded. Nobody else invaded cyprus, only turkey did. They will go a way.
WHAT SORRY YOU CAN'T SEE THE GREEK POLITISM THE GREEK GODS
ARE YOU KIDDING ME JEWS HAHA OMG WHAT ELSE I WILL LISTEN ARABS JEWS SHUT UP CYPRIOTS ARE GREEKS AND PROUD OF THAT
most turkish cypriots are not religious
Cyprus must have had a similar experience to what many of the Palestinians did, when, without much warning the state of Israel was reestablished.
That story is rarely realized by those in the Western World.
The Hebrews, Isralies, and Jews, needed a homeland again and the Palestinians needed their homes and land that had been their for over 2 thousand years.
I sympathize with both, and I know the resolution can only be reached through the Higher Mind, Communication, and a Desire to experience Harmony.
The Public gets manipulated by the few for their desires
and Profits.
This does not explain in any way the history and the reason behind the division of the island. Its a commercial video showing videos the the islands. Do not watch
There will be calm only if two community will feel themselves as Cypriots, not grc or trk.Only then it will be Republic and State.But it will not happen never,unfortunately and everybody knows why.
exactly