Difference: 1st argument: Dan’s toys don’t benefit anyone: This is just so wrong on so many levels. DanTDM made a toy that speaks to the viewer and has its own personal charm to it. When you see Dan’s toy it screams “DanTDM” vs this product which has no personal value to it and can be easily mistaken on store shelf’s for a product not associated with Logan Paul or KSI, it has nothing to it that screams “KSI” or “Mr Beast” (unless whatever is related to Mr. Beast or Logan Paul is extremely idiotic and corporate) other then the prime and feastibles which have the same problem on their own. Also kids want toys of their favorite content creators which in my opinion is better then them spending all day watching smth like skibidi toilet or whatever the kids now a days are into. 2nd argument: again kids want something that shows they value the creator they love. Mr. Beast sells (or at least sold) shirts at a similar price. 3rd: toys hold no sentimental value: you completely don’t understand what kids find as sentimental. Feastibles has no sentimental value because it is literally just a candy bar, nothing more. It has no value to its consumer, just a temporary energy boost. Dan’s merch means so much to small children in way we cannot physically understand. I collect old lego stuff for example and if someone were to take those away from me I would be emotionally inconsolable. You clearly also have some similar experience as you show some funko pop. If you collect Funko pops and value them deeply then you can clearly relate to these kids, you’re just refusing to do so. 4th argument: Dan suggests that the food being sold is not as healthy as lunchables: other creators clearly express how much they think Lunchables is a better option, but not DanTDM, he is simply stating how we live in a world where pointless consumerism runs rampant. Now you could make the argument “oh but he sells merch”. That merch he sells has a deep connection with his child fanbase, and if you say “but Lunchly and Feastibles also have a deep connection with their fanbase’s” then you’re way too far gone. 5th Arguement: is Dan’s merch better then other people’s merch: the simple answer is no, but to his audience, yes. They want something that expresses what it means to be a “DanTDM fan” (whatever that feels like). Clearly, Lunchly doesn’t emulate the same emotional response, there is no personal connection. It’s not about the quality, it’s about what said merch represents to the child. 6th argument: RUclipsrs have always been making merch like this: you seriously cannot say that something so corporate like Lunchly is similar to RUclipsr merch that has a deep bond with it’s consumers from a decade prior. Merch from RUclipsrs has a personal bond with the consumer you constantly ignore, Lunchly simply cannot create a similar relationship as much as a shirt somebody feels very passionate for. Nobody feels overly passionate towards Lunchly other than its idiotic creators. (Also, just looking over your content you seem to be a fellow leftist, why the hell would you support this now multi-billion dollar empire over Dan, who still is a millionaire, but much more anti-consumerism and against the status quos, don’t mean to make this political however I am just curious why you are taking sides with a corporation that produces utter slop)
Great response! Thanks for taking the time to type it up! 1st point: I don't think point speaks to any tangible benefit in the way Dan was talking about in the tweet. The benefits you ascribe to merchandise are as abstract as me stating that anyone who buys a lunchly gets the benefit of no longer being hungry, or someone drinking a prime no longer bing thirsty. 2nd point: Yeah, I'm not arguing that KSI, Logan Paul, or MrBeast DONT sell any kind of overpriced merch. My point is that almost every youtube creator sells overpriced merch, Dan Included. 3rd point: I'm not saying that these toys, vinyl figures, or clothes can't or don't provide sentimental value. I'm saying that argument misses the point of what I believe Dan means when he says "benefits". I don't actually collect funko pops (but thank you for taking note of the sketch in the video!) 4th point: I don't believe I make any argument against Dan saying that lunchly and lunchables are garbage. In fact I believe I state in the beginning that he believes that. And again, I'm don't believe there is any sentimental value that can be attached to lunchly, however I don't think sentimental value benefits anyone and only serves to increase consumerism and profit for the youtuber. 5th point: Again, I don't think that sentimental value is anything that adds benefit to a consumer. I think that at the root of it all, it just serves to allow any RUclipsr to charge higher prices for their products and increase profits for themselves. 6th point: Yeah, I am making that comparison. I am not trying to defend lunchly, because I think it's garbage. I am trying to point out the hypocrisy in a lot of these statements. RUclipsrs leverage their status against their consumers, and sell overpriced products that have no inherent added benefit over other items, and that often times are worse quality than over mass market items. Lasted statement: Again, I'm not taking the side of Lunchly, who are making garbage product. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy I am seeing. I am a leftist, but I don't disagree with youtubers leveraging their fame to shill products. This extends from small creators with 1000 subs, to mega celebrities on the platform. They all have the right to leverage their status to increase profits for themselves, but I find it rich when they act as if what they do and what a larger creator does holds no similarities at all. Also, I'm not sure if you make videos, but you should consider it. You laid out a really good script there, and I personally think it could get some traction if you put it in video format.
I agree with you, DanTDM’s merch benefits him and his fans, his Tube Heroes action figure and Youtooz collector hold way more sentimental value than Lunchly, Feastables, and Prime
@@eightydazeWhen I first came across this video while randomly scrolling and briefly watching it, I thought this was either rage-bait or some idiot/conservative rambling online. However looking at your response to this comment, your response to other comments, and your previous videos that seems to not be the case, In-fact far from it. While I personally disagree with the contents of this video, you bring up some interesting points, something new. In the end all this is and what most people now-a-days don’t understand is that all of this is just opinions. I think if you just brought up some of these points in the video it would further validate your claim. And as for me and content creation, I used to make content centered for very young kids a while ago (and I stopped making content for kids a while ago). However recently I wanted to make political-centered content about like “why socialists hating on the Democratic Party is stupid” or “how the alt-right is using content creation radicalize kids”. Just cover basic far-leftist stuff. However I have so many fears going into political content (as anyone does lol). My main ones being that RUclips seems to attract a mostly conservative audience and even if leftists did find my content they probably would criticize it to hell and back anyways. Also if I said something wrong or something was exposed about me, I fear I would make the entire left look even worse than it already does.
@@eightydaze from what I see you're saying lunchly, prime and feastables have a purpose even if they don't give the same sentimental value as other merch like shirts and toys here's why you are wrong 1. Merch like shirts and toys are bought once and reused for years before the owner of the shirt even thinks of replacing it 2. Mrbeast, Logan Paul and KSI products (feastable, lunchly and prime) literally have no value why? A. They are more unhealthy then their competitors prime has about 4x the caffeine in it then coca-cola B. Feastables although healthy at first had its recipes changes to have more sugar then Hersey's the company mrbeast claimed to be healthier then C. I can't help but notice you insist on saying these products can fulfill your hunger even their target audience won't be satisfied with a mere 200 cal lunch that's more like a light snack 3. Dan here says "selling stuff for making profit" again referring to point 1 you can't compare food with shirts and toys you buy shirts or toys once and wear it repeatedly for years food you eat it and keep coming back 4. being better than Lunchables isn't a competition if parents really want a healthier alternative to lunchables then buying a pack of biscuits and a bottle of juice is 100x better Ps: would love to bash on more but this is all that came on my head and I have to go out feel free to try and argue with me I have all the time I need to argue since I don't usually sleep
I would say there is a large difference between harmless overpriced merch and actual harmful consumables that are not fit for infant consumption, the typical goal in somebody buying merch is to support their favourite creator and yes, it's an obvious way of the creator looking for another source of income but its also pretty harmless in comparison to what DanTDM is arguing against so I would say his arguement is valid.
Yeah, I don't disagree with the point you make here, however I don't believe that is the point Dan made in the tweet I'm responding to. My point is not that making overpriced merch is wrong, it's that making overpriced merch, and then coming out against another product for it not being "useful" is hypocritical. But to adress your point concretely; you're right. There is a big gulf between making overpriced merch, and harmful consumables.
@@PuffedMuffin Wait a minute, DanTDM has made candy related videos that amassed over 10 million views, I can only imagine the amount of youngens who wanted to get those products themselves. He deserves to be called that, respectively (hypocritical). Because he did what he criticized
@@Swiftkeyprotexter those candies were already common among children all he did was try them out and give his reaction. He's not promoting it either going out of his way saying "Kids sweets are good for you" ,quite the contrary. Compared to Logan Paul and KSI who are trying to actively sell these products that clearly violate health standards for children.
@@suhritkanumuru6456 Does it being common make it any less unhealthy? Does the fact that KSI did his collaboration to rival a product by offering lesser calories sound absurd to you? That's the whole point of them making Lunchlys.
@@eightydazehey pyramid brain there's a difference between toys and promoting a food thing 9 years ago then selling a lead filled launch hockey puck meal
I’m on DanTDM’s side, DanTDM is trying to say that the ‘merch’ they are trying to make is to benefit themselves only, the tweet Dan made is trying to also saying that merch itself isn’t bad it just has to benefit both the fan and the creator, the tube heroes toy line are action figures meant to be played with and DanTDM’s Youtooz is a collectible for collectors, plus a RUclipsr charging 30$ for a shirt is fine depending what material and design they use, the shirt is doing its job, it’s covering a part of your body He isn’t being hypocritical, he’s just saying merch should benefit both the creator and the fan, his merch benefits the buyers/fans
Well argued, truly. However, I don't think that's the point Dan is trying to make, when he says "how does this benefit anyone", I think he's saying this is not any better quality than Lunchables. He may have stated Otherwise, at the time of recording I hadn't seen him say differently. I also do not believe that these toys or clothes provide any benefit to the fans really. I don't necessarily believe they even NEED to provide any benefit, it could just be good enough that his fans buy the merch to support him. But to use it as an argument, when you yourself do the same thing seems a bit rich to me.
@@eightydaze He is saying it because he is aware his audience is mostly kids but we got the Lunchly trio acting like they don’t know that their audience is mostly kids and teens.
I applaud you for calling out the hypocrisy. Dan did the very thing that he criticizes in his post. But, the thing that irritates me the most is the amount of people that jumped to Dan’s defense for no other reason than their dislike of KSI and company. And then when KSI brang it up, instead of acknowledging it, people then started to make excuses why it was okay for Dan to do it and not KSI. Or how his toy brings “value”, unlike what KSI does. P.S. I’m not saying that I like lunchly. I just find it counterintuitive to prosecute someone for what is an industry standard and then hop on the side of a hypocrite because you like him as a person/his personality.
DanTDM has never said that any of his merchandise will benefit anyone in any way, unlike MrBeast who constantly talks about how much healthier and "better for you" his products are. The problem isn't that they are doing it to make money, the problem is that they aren't upfront with their intentions and are misleading kids into buying their products because it is "good for them". Also there is a big difference between selling food items and selling clothing/toys as food directly affects the health of the consumer and youtubers have only started with selling food items recently. I appreciate you stirring the pot of conversation by giving an "unpopular opinion" but if you want to do that you will need a stronger point.
Great points, thanks for taking the time. I'm fairly certain with at least TubeHeroes Dan had done marketing campaigns "gassing up" the product. Which my point is not that it's a terrible thing to do - infact i expect most people with merch to do so. Also, If Lunchly is primarily marketed off the basis of the fame of its three creators. I understand that they use health as a marketing tool, however we could eschew that and lunchly would still be as it is, and likely would still be in the same hot water. Also, towards the point of intention; no RUclipsr I've seen recently is upfront with their intentions. RUclipsrs I do not think care wether or not you actually have fun with the toys they make - that's not their intention. They care first and foremost about generating revenue for themselves. And to reiterate, of course Lunchly is terrible for you, and will be terrible for children. This video has much more to do with marketing strategies used, rather than actual quality of product.
He said it's healthier than Lunchables. Which, reading the nutritional values, is valid. And there isn't a difference; when your main point is "selling things for your child fanbase"... So, what stronger point? Because you gave very weak ones.
@@eightydaze I understand how Dan also has merchandise & stuff, but the thing is that Dan puts priority over his fans rather than his merch. MrBeast, KSI & Logan Paul have made so many videos and shorts promoting their products to the point where they're basically forcing you to purchase their stuff. Every single day I scroll to see countless of videos about Feastables and Prime by these content creators.
@@eightydaze Ksi calls out Dan tdm about his hypocrisy but doesn't crisice his products or nothing about that. Ksi is not being a hypocrite like Dan tbh
sorry bad english but my own interpretation of Dans tweet is, the trio is using their fame and status to leverage lunchly's launch. I think theres nothing wrong with using fame to promote products but I think when he said "This is selling crap to kids who dont know better than to trust the people who are selling it to" the trio uses their fame in a scummy way wherein kids would blindly buy these products just because its your favourite youtubers product. I also think people have little to no trust on the trio as they have a bad rep on their food (feastables and prime) as they use claims which is contradicting from their comparison. My opinion about merch is dependent on who are making them. I think merch and product is completely different from each other, you buy merch for the sentimental value, you dont need to buy them, but it will probably support your creator, while the other, you are just a consumer. Maybe im biased because on how the trios has a bad reputation on scamming/distrust on their "fans". I think what differentiates supporting your creator and you being just another consumer is trust and loyalty to the fans because I would gladly buy Jacksepticeyes coffee and I would consider it supporting my creator, but buying mr beasts chocolate I would consider it buying from a manufacturer. idk tho thats my opinion
Like most people here say, it’s not that Dan’s merch and toys benefit, it’s that they aren’t advertised to benefit. He doesn’t say these are great things to buy unlike Lunchly, a more expensive knock off clone of Lunchables that doesn’t even have the minimum amount of calories for a child’s diet. Yet if you do eat enough Lunchly to match the minimum amount of calories for them, you’d be taking in more salts, which Prime labels as electrolytes, than the average child should be taking! I do not believe it is wrong for a RUclipsr to want to make money. It however should not be done under advertising your own product as something better while ripping on an equally bad brand and acting like your brand is so much better. Feastables for example, Mr. Beast said it was healthier than other chocolate, he was right until he changed the recipe and now it’s about as bad as Hershey’s. Or Prime with its issue with lead! They market these things as healthy alternatives but they fail and fall short.
I'm curious to know how many people disliked this video before hearing this guy out. Many of these comments bring up points this dude had already acknowledged in this video.
I would actually feel the opposite, it feels live they've seen the video. But they take an interpretation that is not in the spirit of my overall point. Which is fine, I take it that I should strive to be more clear. Youre right too, i also suspect a lot of people came in with preconceived notions about what I believed, and left a dislike. But if you were to ask anyone that left a comment on this video, they'd say they watched the whole thing and disagree with me. Hard to tell; such is life.
Im on dantdm side i see nothing wrong with him he is my childhood RUclipsr I love dantdm and he has not been in any Controversies meanwhile Logan paul is doing crypto scams and mrbeast mistreats his employees during his show beast games not trying to be rude
I don't think anyone was expecting a whole ah debate about this. I just wanna see some RUclipsrs argue and beef with each other. So far everyone has been doing a good job in instigating the beef, I hope they start war, i need my content man. Aw heck naw, I see whole essays about this, why am I even here???
I still side with Dan. Dan's merch does not harm anyone, it's simply a way to support the creator they love (It's also blatantly obvious that it's Dan's product). Lunchly on the other hand is unhealthy and not fit for consumption by a child. You also have to have at least a little inside knowledge to know that it was by KSI, Logan Paul and Mr. Beast because there is little to no indication that they made it. I understand your points though, and I think it's good to see a bit from both sides of the argument (Proving that the internet isn't completely one-sided).
I love the video since it goes into both sides. I think Dan was right about the fact that this was selling stuff for the sake of making money, but his question seemed contradictory since he was selling his own product for the sake of also making money. Also, I’m not sure if expensive RUclipsr products are just the result of if the RUclipsr was just being greedy or if it’s for the sake of just supporting the RUclipsr (although I think that depends on the RUclipsr). Here is my own opinion: DanTDM shouldn’t have tweeted. I have a feeling my opinion is biased (for some reason), but Dan shouldn’t have tweeted because the drama was already currently bad. I’m not sure about this, but I don’t think tweeting about the situation changed anything significant. Sure, people are currently hating on Lunchly, but I didn’t expect the beloved RUclipsr DANTDM out of all the people to comment on it. On my RUclips recommendations are people making videos telling the internet on how DanTDM destroyed KSI, Logan Paul, and MrBeast when people were ALREADY hating on the trio, so I’m not sure if or how it made a difference or not. Anyways, I believe I shouldn’t have commented. I think I was wrong about most stuff I said in my comment (in which I probably was), and I think I just said some false information since my brain is a little fried after school🤦♂️. I’ll just send the comment as an example of what not to say. (Btw great video❤)
and when he said, what happened to ytbers man i dont know how you misunderstood what aspect he talked about. even though its so obvious, im sure its not about the merch, its about how manipulative they are to kids, dan knows even better because hes now a father, he knows how kids work. he knows how this would affect them. making profit off toys and making profit by lying and scamming children are different
Good response! Even IF I take your point of view that Dan meant specifically about being manipulative towards kids; 1. RUclipsrs leveraging their fame to sell overpriced merchandise is manipulative towards children by and large. 2. RUclipsrs even without selling merchandise are Notoriously manipulative towards kids.
I genuinely thought ur video was a good video. From my perspective I think their idea is great! Although, how they describing the lunchly product (in my perspective) was more of how their product IS HEALTHY. Not more healthy than lunchables but a healthy option for food. I think this is what dan was trying to say. The benefit part i don’t understand much because yeah I can buy Lunchly and get full and eat processed foods and a drink that has 3 lawsuits against and a chocolate bar that is any other regular chocolate bar in America and I could get the same with Lunchables. Another reason why I don’t get the benefit part is because spending money is a thing. Whether or not it’s toys, merch, food, etc. It’s just business. I think dan was more focused on what was inside the food and Ksi, LP, and MB are arguing about the business aspect of his comment which they do sell merch and toys but dan sells/sold merch and toys. They both had sponsorships with people. All in all dan was commenting about what is in the food and ksi interpreted as ur attacking my business as a youtuber. The reason dan probably commented was because dan saw the “scam” in the nutrition value of the product. Plus ksi is working with a literal scammer (from LP’s nft scam) and MB (with his allegations of him being a pdf.file) also ksi has these allegations of his crypto/nft scams and him lying about holding nfts and crypto. Tell me, if you were a teenager who heard about these people and they created a product would u really buy it? From the scams, pdf.file allegations, and other bs from them would u think there may or may not be at least something wrong with the product?
from what I see you're saying lunchly, prime and feastables have a purpose even if they don't give the same sentimental value as other merch like shirts and toys here's why you are wrong 1. Merch like shirts and toys are bought once and reused for years before the owner of the shirt even thinks of replacing it 2. Mrbeast, Logan Paul and KSI products (feastable, lunchly and prime) literally have no value why? A. They are more unhealthy then their competitors prime has about 4x the caffeine in it then coca-cola B. Feastables although healthy at first had its recipes changes to have more sugar then Hersey's the company mrbeast claimed to be healthier then C. I can't help but notice you insist on saying these products can fulfill your hunger even their target audience won't be satisfied with a mere 200 cal lunch that's more like a light snack 3. Dan here says "selling stuff for making profit" again referring to point 1 you can't compare food with shirts and toys you buy shirts or toys once and wear it repeatedly for years food you eat it and keep coming back 4. being better than Lunchables isn't a competition if parents really want a healthier alternative to lunchables then buying a pack of biscuits and a bottle of juice is 100x better
What I am saying here is Dan's products don't harm his viewers and don't give the kids obesity or heart attack which both prime and feastables do prime is even facing a lawsuit Dan's products are long lasting and sentimental unlike feastable, beast burger, lunchly and prime which don't give out much to the buyers and the kids not knowing any better will keep buying these unhealthy foods
Sentimental things are highly subjective so that can’t be a reason. And true you can’t compare clothes to food, but one could easily make the argument that food is more important than clothes, due to the simple fact that you can survive without clothes, but not without food. How is what Dan did, not for the sake of making money? His clothes and merchandise are overpriced as heck. This is what most do, instead of saying “hey Dan may be right, but he is no saint either”. They come up with 101 excuses why DanTDM selling overpriced merchandise to kids is somehow different from what he was complaining about in his original post.
@@jamarplunkett3283 sentimental things are highly subgective my ass if you think foods like lunchly and prime can be a sentimental things any person keeps for a long period of time because sentimental things are keepsakes, things you remember someone by and keep for a long period of time and how many people you know have foods as sentimental items? yes dan has overprices shirts im not saying thats a good thing nbut its better then selling what is not even meeting the US standards for a kids lunch meal yes one cannot survive without food but can without clotthes but the thing is you cant suvive off of lunchly especally if youre a child their target audience children don't neen more eletrolytles and lessing the suger in the beerage ia a bad thing not a net positive with lunchly the kins are either not eating enough or eating too much of certain things in not mad for mr beast and others for sellling stuff im mad for the contents and how some people defend them prime is getting taken to court for almost giving children heart attack, feastable is now less heathier then bloody herseys and lunchly is still processed shit kids shouldn't be eating i know what you mean by dan isn't a saint noone in the world is especially if they're popular they can always do better things but we dont know what dan really does with his money do we know if he donates?no he probably doesnt ,ost of the time. do we know if he groomed anyone? no if he did we'll probably know in the future. do we know he scamed his audience or did illegal lottery? he definetely didn't. he's much better then the three of them even mr beast seemengly knew about crish's pedophilic tendencies way before and had done seemingly nothingand is facing laesuit with his beast games and dogpack404 what people like me are saying is these guys have been actively scamming people, have sold many foods that aren't good for your health prime, lunchly, feastable which was good but isnt now, idk about beast burger it seemed alright but i think mrbeast basically shot himself in the foot by spreading negative reviews more which were pretty low in my opinionfor the ghost kitchen and we have been saying this about lunchly and other food items (except beast burger pretty sure it's dead) before the dantdm tweet
1. You are thinking of Prime Energy, not Prime Hydration, which is what is in Lunchly... So you got that blatantly wrong. 2. Lunchables is near 200 cal... For an adult, that's nothing, but most kids would be filled with that. 3. If his point was "selling stuff for making profit", then that is LITERALLY the entire point of merchandise.... upcharging and making a profit. Otherwise why would you sell it? And shirts and toys also cost way more than Lunchly--- and you could argue that since it is a food item, it is more important than a materialistic one. 4. No it wouldn't lmao. Lunchables or Lunchly already has a juice or a drink with nutrition, and it has protein sources. How would "a pack of biscuits" equate to that?
.... It's like 200 calories.... It's literally meant as a light snack alternative to lunchables. Also, you can live without a DANTDM shirt... Food is much more essential, even if it's processed. That's a better difference.
Very bold of you to put out an opinion like this when the internet has become so polarized in recent years to the point that anything contradicting the popular decision is seen as heresy. Sure, i disagree with this, but it doesn't mean i won't respect it. Good video overall!
Thank you! I fear two things the most; Agreeing with something simply because everyone agrees woth it, and disagreeing with something because everyone agrees with it.
@@eightydaze disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing also isn't a good thing though with the history they have and all the bad pr they got you gotta think something is up ya know but yeah Herd mentality is also not good
@@alexafe5744 My statement is not meant to imply anything about me disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing. In fact I was trying to state the opposite. I think basing your reactions only off of the reactions of others is the Death of Wisdom.
went from : bro is this guy gonna say stupid shit to: fair point lmao i get your point but what if we talk about how much it will damage children? im sure thats the MAIN point, yo should probably change the title since it sounds like dan is hypocritical about EVERYTHING, when its not, its just making merch
I would suspect that his main gripe is how physically damaging the food is towards kids, and he's right on about that. However he still made the other points, and I see no reason why I shouldn't bring them up. The title of the video is purposefully salacious and attention grabbing.
@@sunniproductions1951 honestly people are calling Dan a “sigma” for just making that one tweet and then dipping, but no, he’s just a weak ass pussy who’ll go along with whatever his fans say and expect his fans to just have his back. Pathetic behavior on his part.
@@BloodBornShadowWalker He literally sold merch "to make profit" and sold it to his "child fanbase"... which are his main points against them. Big hypocrisy lmao.
Difference:
1st argument: Dan’s toys don’t benefit anyone: This is just so wrong on so many levels. DanTDM made a toy that speaks to the viewer and has its own personal charm to it. When you see Dan’s toy it screams “DanTDM” vs this product which has no personal value to it and can be easily mistaken on store shelf’s for a product not associated with Logan Paul or KSI, it has nothing to it that screams “KSI” or “Mr Beast” (unless whatever is related to Mr. Beast or Logan Paul is extremely idiotic and corporate) other then the prime and feastibles which have the same problem on their own. Also kids want toys of their favorite content creators which in my opinion is better then them spending all day watching smth like skibidi toilet or whatever the kids now a days are into.
2nd argument: again kids want something that shows they value the creator they love. Mr. Beast sells (or at least sold) shirts at a similar price.
3rd: toys hold no sentimental value: you completely don’t understand what kids find as sentimental. Feastibles has no sentimental value because it is literally just a candy bar, nothing more. It has no value to its consumer, just a temporary energy boost. Dan’s merch means so much to small children in way we cannot physically understand. I collect old lego stuff for example and if someone were to take those away from me I would be emotionally inconsolable. You clearly also have some similar experience as you show some funko pop. If you collect Funko pops and value them deeply then you can clearly relate to these kids, you’re just refusing to do so.
4th argument: Dan suggests that the food being sold is not as healthy as lunchables: other creators clearly express how much they think Lunchables is a better option, but not DanTDM, he is simply stating how we live in a world where pointless consumerism runs rampant. Now you could make the argument “oh but he sells merch”. That merch he sells has a deep connection with his child fanbase, and if you say “but Lunchly and Feastibles also have a deep connection with their fanbase’s” then you’re way too far gone.
5th Arguement: is Dan’s merch better then other people’s merch: the simple answer is no, but to his audience, yes. They want something that expresses what it means to be a “DanTDM fan” (whatever that feels like). Clearly, Lunchly doesn’t emulate the same emotional response, there is no personal connection. It’s not about the quality, it’s about what said merch represents to the child.
6th argument: RUclipsrs have always been making merch like this: you seriously cannot say that something so corporate like Lunchly is similar to RUclipsr merch that has a deep bond with it’s consumers from a decade prior. Merch from RUclipsrs has a personal bond with the consumer you constantly ignore, Lunchly simply cannot create a similar relationship as much as a shirt somebody feels very passionate for. Nobody feels overly passionate towards Lunchly other than its idiotic creators.
(Also, just looking over your content you seem to be a fellow leftist, why the hell would you support this now multi-billion dollar empire over Dan, who still is a millionaire, but much more anti-consumerism and against the status quos, don’t mean to make this political however I am just curious why you are taking sides with a corporation that produces utter slop)
Great response! Thanks for taking the time to type it up!
1st point: I don't think point speaks to any tangible benefit in the way Dan was talking about in the tweet. The benefits you ascribe to merchandise are as abstract as me stating that anyone who buys a lunchly gets the benefit of no longer being hungry, or someone drinking a prime no longer bing thirsty.
2nd point: Yeah, I'm not arguing that KSI, Logan Paul, or MrBeast DONT sell any kind of overpriced merch. My point is that almost every youtube creator sells overpriced merch, Dan Included.
3rd point: I'm not saying that these toys, vinyl figures, or clothes can't or don't provide sentimental value. I'm saying that argument misses the point of what I believe Dan means when he says "benefits". I don't actually collect funko pops (but thank you for taking note of the sketch in the video!)
4th point: I don't believe I make any argument against Dan saying that lunchly and lunchables are garbage. In fact I believe I state in the beginning that he believes that. And again, I'm don't believe there is any sentimental value that can be attached to lunchly, however I don't think sentimental value benefits anyone and only serves to increase consumerism and profit for the youtuber.
5th point: Again, I don't think that sentimental value is anything that adds benefit to a consumer. I think that at the root of it all, it just serves to allow any RUclipsr to charge higher prices for their products and increase profits for themselves.
6th point: Yeah, I am making that comparison. I am not trying to defend lunchly, because I think it's garbage. I am trying to point out the hypocrisy in a lot of these statements. RUclipsrs leverage their status against their consumers, and sell overpriced products that have no inherent added benefit over other items, and that often times are worse quality than over mass market items.
Lasted statement: Again, I'm not taking the side of Lunchly, who are making garbage product. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy I am seeing.
I am a leftist, but I don't disagree with youtubers leveraging their fame to shill products. This extends from small creators with 1000 subs, to mega celebrities on the platform. They all have the right to leverage their status to increase profits for themselves, but I find it rich when they act as if what they do and what a larger creator does holds no similarities at all.
Also, I'm not sure if you make videos, but you should consider it. You laid out a really good script there, and I personally think it could get some traction if you put it in video format.
I agree with you, DanTDM’s merch benefits him and his fans, his Tube Heroes action figure and Youtooz collector hold way more sentimental value than Lunchly, Feastables, and Prime
@@eightydazeWhen I first came across this video while randomly scrolling and briefly watching it, I thought this was either rage-bait or some idiot/conservative rambling online. However looking at your response to this comment, your response to other comments, and your previous videos that seems to not be the case, In-fact far from it. While I personally disagree with the contents of this video, you bring up some interesting points, something new. In the end all this is and what most people now-a-days don’t understand is that all of this is just opinions.
I think if you just brought up some of these points in the video it would further validate your claim.
And as for me and content creation, I used to make content centered for very young kids a while ago (and I stopped making content for kids a while ago). However recently I wanted to make political-centered content about like “why socialists hating on the Democratic Party is stupid” or “how the alt-right is using content creation radicalize kids”. Just cover basic far-leftist stuff. However I have so many fears going into political content (as anyone does lol). My main ones being that RUclips seems to attract a mostly conservative audience and even if leftists did find my content they probably would criticize it to hell and back anyways. Also if I said something wrong or something was exposed about me, I fear I would make the entire left look even worse than it already does.
@@Average_TemplarAgreed 💯
@@eightydaze from what I see you're saying lunchly, prime and feastables have a purpose even if they don't give the same sentimental value as other merch like shirts and toys here's why you are wrong
1. Merch like shirts and toys are bought once and reused for years before the owner of the shirt even thinks of replacing it
2. Mrbeast, Logan Paul and KSI products (feastable, lunchly and prime) literally have no value why?
A. They are more unhealthy then their competitors prime has about 4x the caffeine in it then coca-cola
B. Feastables although healthy at first had its recipes changes to have more sugar then Hersey's the company mrbeast claimed to be healthier then
C. I can't help but notice you insist on saying these products can fulfill your hunger even their target audience won't be satisfied with a mere 200 cal lunch that's more like a light snack
3. Dan here says "selling stuff for making profit" again referring to point 1 you can't compare food with shirts and toys you buy shirts or toys once and wear it repeatedly for years food you eat it and keep coming back
4. being better than Lunchables isn't a competition if parents really want a healthier alternative to lunchables then buying a pack of biscuits and a bottle of juice is 100x better
Ps: would love to bash on more but this is all that came on my head and I have to go out feel free to try and argue with me I have all the time I need to argue since I don't usually sleep
The thing is, Dan rarely advertises his merch while KSI, MrBeast & Logan Paul promote their things to the entire internet.
Because maybe, just maybe, nrbeass has like over 200 million more subs than jimmy and has a LOT of sponsors
Mr beast is jimmy….
You people are just finding excuses to say that what dan’s doing is ok because he’s a better person overall than those 3
So how does that change him being a hypocrite?
Literally finding an excuse to make him seem less like a hypocrite.
I would say there is a large difference between harmless overpriced merch and actual harmful consumables that are not fit for infant consumption, the typical goal in somebody buying merch is to support their favourite creator and yes, it's an obvious way of the creator looking for another source of income but its also pretty harmless in comparison to what DanTDM is arguing against so I would say his arguement is valid.
Yeah, I don't disagree with the point you make here, however I don't believe that is the point Dan made in the tweet I'm responding to.
My point is not that making overpriced merch is wrong, it's that making overpriced merch, and then coming out against another product for it not being "useful" is hypocritical.
But to adress your point concretely; you're right. There is a big gulf between making overpriced merch, and harmful consumables.
@@PuffedMuffin Wait a minute, DanTDM has made candy related videos that amassed over 10 million views, I can only imagine the amount of youngens who wanted to get those products themselves. He deserves to be called that, respectively (hypocritical). Because he did what he criticized
@@Swiftkeyprotexter those candies were already common among children all he did was try them out and give his reaction. He's not promoting it either going out of his way saying "Kids sweets are good for you" ,quite the contrary. Compared to Logan Paul and KSI who are trying to actively sell these products that clearly violate health standards for children.
@@suhritkanumuru6456 Does it being common make it any less unhealthy? Does the fact that KSI did his collaboration to rival a product by offering lesser calories sound absurd to you? That's the whole point of them making Lunchlys.
@@eightydazehey pyramid brain there's a difference between toys and promoting a food thing 9 years ago then selling a lead filled launch hockey puck meal
I’m on DanTDM’s side, DanTDM is trying to say that the ‘merch’ they are trying to make is to benefit themselves only, the tweet Dan made is trying to also saying that merch itself isn’t bad it just has to benefit both the fan and the creator, the tube heroes toy line are action figures meant to be played with and DanTDM’s Youtooz is a collectible for collectors, plus a RUclipsr charging 30$ for a shirt is fine depending what material and design they use, the shirt is doing its job, it’s covering a part of your body
He isn’t being hypocritical, he’s just saying merch should benefit both the creator and the fan, his merch benefits the buyers/fans
Well argued, truly. However, I don't think that's the point Dan is trying to make, when he says "how does this benefit anyone", I think he's saying this is not any better quality than Lunchables. He may have stated Otherwise, at the time of recording I hadn't seen him say differently.
I also do not believe that these toys or clothes provide any benefit to the fans really. I don't necessarily believe they even NEED to provide any benefit, it could just be good enough that his fans buy the merch to support him. But to use it as an argument, when you yourself do the same thing seems a bit rich to me.
@@eightydaze He is saying it because he is aware his audience is mostly kids but we got the Lunchly trio acting like they don’t know that their audience is mostly kids and teens.
I applaud you for calling out the hypocrisy. Dan did the very thing that he criticizes in his post. But, the thing that irritates me the most is the amount of people that jumped to Dan’s defense for no other reason than their dislike of KSI and company.
And then when KSI brang it up, instead of acknowledging it, people then started to make excuses why it was okay for Dan to do it and not KSI. Or how his toy brings “value”, unlike what KSI does.
P.S. I’m not saying that I like lunchly. I just find it counterintuitive to prosecute someone for what is an industry standard and then hop on the side of a hypocrite because you like him as a person/his personality.
@@jamarplunkett3283 you’re spot on. People are glazing Dan because they like him as a person while they dislike the trio as people
DanTDM has never said that any of his merchandise will benefit anyone in any way, unlike MrBeast who constantly talks about how much healthier and "better for you" his products are. The problem isn't that they are doing it to make money, the problem is that they aren't upfront with their intentions and are misleading kids into buying their products because it is "good for them". Also there is a big difference between selling food items and selling clothing/toys as food directly affects the health of the consumer and youtubers have only started with selling food items recently.
I appreciate you stirring the pot of conversation by giving an "unpopular opinion" but if you want to do that you will need a stronger point.
Great points, thanks for taking the time.
I'm fairly certain with at least TubeHeroes Dan had done marketing campaigns "gassing up" the product. Which my point is not that it's a terrible thing to do - infact i expect most people with merch to do so.
Also, If Lunchly is primarily marketed off the basis of the fame of its three creators. I understand that they use health as a marketing tool, however we could eschew that and lunchly would still be as it is, and likely would still be in the same hot water.
Also, towards the point of intention; no RUclipsr I've seen recently is upfront with their intentions. RUclipsrs I do not think care wether or not you actually have fun with the toys they make - that's not their intention. They care first and foremost about generating revenue for themselves.
And to reiterate, of course Lunchly is terrible for you, and will be terrible for children. This video has much more to do with marketing strategies used, rather than actual quality of product.
He said it's healthier than Lunchables. Which, reading the nutritional values, is valid.
And there isn't a difference; when your main point is "selling things for your child fanbase"...
So, what stronger point? Because you gave very weak ones.
@@YAHHHHHHH-xs3bcyou win the argument
@@YAHHHHHHH-xs3bcsorry for giving a weak point
Can we talk about the fact that KSI has youtooz as well and that all of them also have overpriced merch
Yeah, I think I remember someone pointing that out as well, and for KSI to use that as an argument against Dan is hypocritical.
@@eightydaze I understand how Dan also has merchandise & stuff, but the thing is that Dan puts priority over his fans rather than his merch. MrBeast, KSI & Logan Paul have made so many videos and shorts promoting their products to the point where they're basically forcing you to purchase their stuff. Every single day I scroll to see countless of videos about Feastables and Prime by these content creators.
@@eightydaze Ksi calls out Dan tdm about his hypocrisy but doesn't crisice his products or nothing about that. Ksi is not being a hypocrite like Dan tbh
I think the real lunchly/lunchables were the friends we made along the way.
sorry bad english but my own interpretation of Dans tweet is, the trio is using their fame and status to leverage lunchly's launch. I think theres nothing wrong with using fame to promote products but I think when he said "This is selling crap to kids who dont know better than to trust the people who are selling it to" the trio uses their fame in a scummy way wherein kids would blindly buy these products just because its your favourite youtubers product. I also think people have little to no trust on the trio as they have a bad rep on their food (feastables and prime) as they use claims which is contradicting from their comparison.
My opinion about merch is dependent on who are making them. I think merch and product is completely different from each other, you buy merch for the sentimental value, you dont need to buy them, but it will probably support your creator, while the other, you are just a consumer. Maybe im biased because on how the trios has a bad reputation on scamming/distrust on their "fans".
I think what differentiates supporting your creator and you being just another consumer is trust and loyalty to the fans because I would gladly buy Jacksepticeyes coffee and I would consider it supporting my creator, but buying mr beasts chocolate I would consider it buying from a manufacturer.
idk tho thats my opinion
Like most people here say, it’s not that Dan’s merch and toys benefit, it’s that they aren’t advertised to benefit. He doesn’t say these are great things to buy unlike Lunchly, a more expensive knock off clone of Lunchables that doesn’t even have the minimum amount of calories for a child’s diet. Yet if you do eat enough Lunchly to match the minimum amount of calories for them, you’d be taking in more salts, which Prime labels as electrolytes, than the average child should be taking!
I do not believe it is wrong for a RUclipsr to want to make money. It however should not be done under advertising your own product as something better while ripping on an equally bad brand and acting like your brand is so much better.
Feastables for example, Mr. Beast said it was healthier than other chocolate, he was right until he changed the recipe and now it’s about as bad as Hershey’s. Or Prime with its issue with lead! They market these things as healthy alternatives but they fail and fall short.
I'm curious to know how many people disliked this video before hearing this guy out. Many of these comments bring up points this dude had already acknowledged in this video.
The dislikes are currently 206 you can use the Return RUclips Dislike chrome extention if you are on pc.
I would actually feel the opposite, it feels live they've seen the video. But they take an interpretation that is not in the spirit of my overall point.
Which is fine, I take it that I should strive to be more clear.
Youre right too, i also suspect a lot of people came in with preconceived notions about what I believed, and left a dislike. But if you were to ask anyone that left a comment on this video, they'd say they watched the whole thing and disagree with me.
Hard to tell; such is life.
Im on dantdm side i see nothing wrong with him he is my childhood RUclipsr
I love dantdm and he has not been in any Controversies meanwhile Logan paul is doing crypto scams and mrbeast mistreats his employees during his show beast games not trying to be rude
Bro you just ruined your reputation the YT algorithm IS going to take this info and stop recommending your content for having more dislikes then likes
Well, I'll be honest, I don't totally care.
I don’t think you understand how the YT algorithm works
It's engagement either way. You literally have no clue what you are talking about.
@@YAHHHHHHH-xs3bc this was 2 months ago I do not care about the lunch thing anymore
I don't think anyone was expecting a whole ah debate about this. I just wanna see some RUclipsrs argue and beef with each other. So far everyone has been doing a good job in instigating the beef, I hope they start war, i need my content man.
Aw heck naw, I see whole essays about this, why am I even here???
I still side with Dan. Dan's merch does not harm anyone, it's simply a way to support the creator they love (It's also blatantly obvious that it's Dan's product). Lunchly on the other hand is unhealthy and not fit for consumption by a child. You also have to have at least a little inside knowledge to know that it was by KSI, Logan Paul and Mr. Beast because there is little to no indication that they made it.
I understand your points though, and I think it's good to see a bit from both sides of the argument (Proving that the internet isn't completely one-sided).
Lunchly supporters NEED to understand the difference between merchandise and a food brand
.... They are both technically merchandise.
Subscribed for having the courage to think for yourself and come up with your own logical conclusion instead of just following the crowd like sheep.
To be far... Your not wrong
the difference is dan isn't trying to sell harmful foods and drinks to kids
what about those massive corporations that literally make foods with chemicals that ALTER your dna
I’m not going to eat a hoodie am I
Not woth that attitude
@@eightydazeNot with any attitude mate they’re not edible
Not with that attitude
I'm on mrbeast side
I love the video since it goes into both sides. I think Dan was right about the fact that this was selling stuff for the sake of making money, but his question seemed contradictory since he was selling his own product for the sake of also making money. Also, I’m not sure if expensive RUclipsr products are just the result of if the RUclipsr was just being greedy or if it’s for the sake of just supporting the RUclipsr (although I think that depends on the RUclipsr). Here is my own opinion: DanTDM shouldn’t have tweeted. I have a feeling my opinion is biased (for some reason), but Dan shouldn’t have tweeted because the drama was already currently bad. I’m not sure about this, but I don’t think tweeting about the situation changed anything significant. Sure, people are currently hating on Lunchly, but I didn’t expect the beloved RUclipsr DANTDM out of all the people to comment on it. On my RUclips recommendations are people making videos telling the internet on how DanTDM destroyed KSI, Logan Paul, and MrBeast when people were ALREADY hating on the trio, so I’m not sure if or how it made a difference or not.
Anyways, I believe I shouldn’t have commented. I think I was wrong about most stuff I said in my comment (in which I probably was), and I think I just said some false information since my brain is a little fried after school🤦♂️. I’ll just send the comment as an example of what not to say.
(Btw great video❤)
probably should add that if people care about the health then you should also include the massive corporations killing people
i used to watch him back 2018-2020
2:16 there is no alternative for lunchables. But clothes and toys have
a toy that is beneficial to both people is different than a one use and consumable product
Beneficial more like parasocial attachment
and when he said, what happened to ytbers man
i dont know how you misunderstood what aspect he talked about. even though its so obvious, im sure its not about the merch, its about how manipulative they are to kids, dan knows even better because hes now a father, he knows how kids work. he knows how this would affect them. making profit off toys and making profit by lying and scamming children are different
Good response!
Even IF I take your point of view that Dan meant specifically about being manipulative towards kids; 1. RUclipsrs leveraging their fame to sell overpriced merchandise is manipulative towards children by and large. 2. RUclipsrs even without selling merchandise are Notoriously manipulative towards kids.
gah dayum that dislike ratio is crazy
Power to the people
Thank you for making sense and logically state your opinion
Do I agree with it No
Do I respect it. Very much so
I genuinely thought ur video was a good video. From my perspective I think their idea is great! Although, how they describing the lunchly product (in my perspective) was more of how their product IS HEALTHY. Not more healthy than lunchables but a healthy option for food. I think this is what dan was trying to say. The benefit part i don’t understand much because yeah I can buy Lunchly and get full and eat processed foods and a drink that has 3 lawsuits against and a chocolate bar that is any other regular chocolate bar in America and I could get the same with Lunchables. Another reason why I don’t get the benefit part is because spending money is a thing. Whether or not it’s toys, merch, food, etc. It’s just business. I think dan was more focused on what was inside the food and Ksi, LP, and MB are arguing about the business aspect of his comment which they do sell merch and toys but dan sells/sold merch and toys. They both had sponsorships with people. All in all dan was commenting about what is in the food and ksi interpreted as ur attacking my business as a youtuber. The reason dan probably commented was because dan saw the “scam” in the nutrition value of the product. Plus ksi is working with a literal scammer (from LP’s nft scam) and MB (with his allegations of him being a pdf.file) also ksi has these allegations of his crypto/nft scams and him lying about holding nfts and crypto. Tell me, if you were a teenager who heard about these people and they created a product would u really buy it? From the scams, pdf.file allegations, and other bs from them would u think there may or may not be at least something wrong with the product?
FINALLY dan is so hypocritical glad some people have a mind of their own
you must be the thick of it
from what I see you're saying lunchly, prime and feastables have a purpose even if they don't give the same sentimental value as other merch like shirts and toys here's why you are wrong
1. Merch like shirts and toys are bought once and reused for years before the owner of the shirt even thinks of replacing it
2. Mrbeast, Logan Paul and KSI products (feastable, lunchly and prime) literally have no value why?
A. They are more unhealthy then their competitors prime has about 4x the caffeine in it then coca-cola
B. Feastables although healthy at first had its recipes changes to have more sugar then Hersey's the company mrbeast claimed to be healthier then
C. I can't help but notice you insist on saying these products can fulfill your hunger even their target audience won't be satisfied with a mere 200 cal lunch that's more like a light snack
3. Dan here says "selling stuff for making profit" again referring to point 1 you can't compare food with shirts and toys you buy shirts or toys once and wear it repeatedly for years food you eat it and keep coming back
4. being better than Lunchables isn't a competition if parents really want a healthier alternative to lunchables then buying a pack of biscuits and a bottle of juice is 100x better
What I am saying here is Dan's products don't harm his viewers and don't give the kids obesity or heart attack which both prime and feastables do prime is even facing a lawsuit
Dan's products are long lasting and sentimental unlike feastable, beast burger, lunchly and prime which don't give out much to the buyers and the kids not knowing any better will keep buying these unhealthy foods
Sentimental things are highly subjective so that can’t be a reason. And true you can’t compare clothes to food, but one could easily make the argument that food is more important than clothes, due to the simple fact that you can survive without clothes, but not without food.
How is what Dan did, not for the sake of making money? His clothes and merchandise are overpriced as heck.
This is what most do, instead of saying “hey Dan may be right, but he is no saint either”. They come up with 101 excuses why DanTDM selling overpriced merchandise to kids is somehow different from what he was complaining about in his original post.
@@jamarplunkett3283 sentimental things are highly subgective my ass if you think foods like lunchly and prime can be a sentimental things any person keeps for a long period of time because sentimental things are keepsakes, things you remember someone by and keep for a long period of time and how many people you know have foods as sentimental items? yes dan has overprices shirts im not saying thats a good thing nbut its better then selling what is not even meeting the US standards for a kids lunch meal
yes one cannot survive without food but can without clotthes but the thing is you cant suvive off of lunchly especally if youre a child their target audience children don't neen more eletrolytles and lessing the suger in the beerage ia a bad thing not a net positive with lunchly the kins are either not eating enough or eating too much of certain things in not mad for mr beast and others for sellling stuff im mad for the contents and how some people defend them prime is getting taken to court for almost giving children heart attack, feastable is now less heathier then bloody herseys and lunchly is still processed shit kids shouldn't be eating
i know what you mean by dan isn't a saint noone in the world is especially if they're popular they can always do better things but we dont know what dan really does with his money do we know if he donates?no he probably doesnt ,ost of the time. do we know if he groomed anyone? no if he did we'll probably know in the future. do we know he scamed his audience or did illegal lottery? he definetely didn't. he's much better then the three of them even mr beast seemengly knew about crish's pedophilic tendencies way before and had done seemingly nothingand is facing laesuit with his beast games and dogpack404
what people like me are saying is these guys have been actively scamming people, have sold many foods that aren't good for your health prime, lunchly, feastable which was good but isnt now, idk about beast burger it seemed alright but i think mrbeast basically shot himself in the foot by spreading negative reviews more which were pretty low in my opinionfor the ghost kitchen and we have been saying this about lunchly and other food items (except beast burger pretty sure it's dead) before the dantdm tweet
1. You are thinking of Prime Energy, not Prime Hydration, which is what is in Lunchly... So you got that blatantly wrong.
2. Lunchables is near 200 cal... For an adult, that's nothing, but most kids would be filled with that.
3. If his point was "selling stuff for making profit", then that is LITERALLY the entire point of merchandise.... upcharging and making a profit. Otherwise why would you sell it? And shirts and toys also cost way more than Lunchly--- and you could argue that since it is a food item, it is more important than a materialistic one.
4. No it wouldn't lmao. Lunchables or Lunchly already has a juice or a drink with nutrition, and it has protein sources. How would "a pack of biscuits" equate to that?
The thing is... Dan's merch isn't for eating the other guys is straight up ob*sity potion
.... It's like 200 calories.... It's literally meant as a light snack alternative to lunchables.
Also, you can live without a DANTDM shirt... Food is much more essential, even if it's processed. That's a better difference.
@YAHHHHHHH-xs3bc there is no way people actually defending lunchly 💀
Bro have you heard about the mold and the redundant lead in Lunchly???
Very bold of you to put out an opinion like this when the internet has become so polarized in recent years to the point that anything contradicting the popular decision is seen as heresy. Sure, i disagree with this, but it doesn't mean i won't respect it. Good video overall!
Thank you! I fear two things the most; Agreeing with something simply because everyone agrees woth it, and disagreeing with something because everyone agrees with it.
@@eightydaze disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing also isn't a good thing though with the history they have and all the bad pr they got you gotta think something is up ya know but yeah Herd mentality is also not good
@@alexafe5744 My statement is not meant to imply anything about me disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing. In fact I was trying to state the opposite.
I think basing your reactions only off of the reactions of others is the Death of Wisdom.
went from : bro is this guy gonna say stupid shit
to: fair point lmao
i get your point but what if we talk about how much it will damage children? im sure thats the MAIN point, yo should probably change the title since it sounds like dan is hypocritical about EVERYTHING, when its not, its just making merch
I would suspect that his main gripe is how physically damaging the food is towards kids, and he's right on about that. However he still made the other points, and I see no reason why I shouldn't bring them up.
The title of the video is purposefully salacious and attention grabbing.
@@eightydaze also i forgot to say, your point is very understandable becuase dantdm hasnt elaborated and i dont think he will.
@@sunniproductions1951 honestly people are calling Dan a “sigma” for just making that one tweet and then dipping, but no, he’s just a weak ass pussy who’ll go along with whatever his fans say and expect his fans to just have his back. Pathetic behavior on his part.
This is a really bad point of view
Except it isn't... Dan is a hypocrite.
35 likes 235 dislikes 😮
Power to the people, they don't agree with me. Which is all good in my book.
@@eightydaze hey man, everyone has a right to their opinion and I respect that, btw I liked the video although I don't agree with all the points
L opinion
... except he IS being a hypocrite who has sold stuff for profit to his child fanbase?
@YAHHHHHHH-xs3bc he really isn't
@@BloodBornShadowWalker He literally sold merch "to make profit" and sold it to his "child fanbase"... which are his main points against them. Big hypocrisy lmao.
@YAHHHHHHH-xs3bc even though you can't compare the 2 lmao
@@BloodBornShadowWalker ..... I find it funny you can't point out why I can't. Learn what hypocrisy means, kiddo.
DanTDM is correct man. That’s just the truth.
Well, with an argument like that how can I disagree?
first
7th
Counterpoint, dantdm sold tpys, not cancerous "food" to kifs
Yep, don't disagree.
Counter point they are both slop