Coseytown and Santa Cruz DAHLIA CONTROVERSY!
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
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John and Catherine are a husband and wife team from Southern Connecticut. We grow food and flowers on the new 40 acre farm we just bought and are building from the ground up using reclaimed materials whenever possible.
Hi guys! Valerie from the KA Dahlia Friends. Thank you for covering this!
Thank you (and sorry about) your share as well! Your post yesterday about its impact on you was a really why we decided to share our video in the group. Hopefully it can take some of the unfair burden off of you.
Loved watching your thoughts on business! ❤ There is no way I'm going to purchase anything anyone expects royalties that is grown from the ground. That would be like a potato farmer paying an extra tax for seed potatoes every year. That is a tax and most certainly a usery fee. I'd most likely give all those tubers away or let them rot away in the ground.
Retroactive?!?!?! NO WAY!!!!
Right ? That's the worst part
Great coverage guys! Thank you!!
These people ‘in business’ you’re right. They are not good business people.
You guys have learned so much!
Hi Cat and John. Cat it’s good to see you in a video. Your flowers look beautiful by the way. I can see so much wrong in what these places have done. I’d be rather upset had I drought any off their products. But any recent purchase that still have their products in good condition should get a refund. Bad choices they all made and sad for all who grow or sell. Great video.
Those flowers are just as beautiful you are ❤ I love this for yall!!
That's so nice of you to say ! 🥰
Hello from Westport, CT
Hello neighbor !! Formerly Redding now sandy hook :)
Your Dahlias I have are gorgeous!
Yay ! Let us know when you need moreb
KA does not sell to the public…they sell to a few companies that propagate it is not analagous to CT…
I (now) understand they don't sell anything themselves, but it is analogous in many many ways. There are both similarities and differences, and we discuss both companies and their choices.
They can't do anything.
If there is a Patton on a plant it has to be there before purchase, so you can buy in when you purchase your plant for reproduce.
I do the best I can at making sure I do not get a Patton plant.
I am putting together an order where the nursery sales both because they have bought in, but the plants that I am going to purchase are not. They do this with lots of plants that would have to be dug up in your area.
Dahlias do not have to be dug up in their zone, they can be left in the ground.
Very interesting & informative!
Thank you for the thorough explanation. I won't be buying any of the Coseytown or KA varieties. I'm getting a little fed up with all the gouging. Even Floret has become way to pricey, but at least they are not asking for royalties on what those 17.00 packets of seeds produce. There are TONS of people wanting to buy tubers, your business should not be in harming your fellow community to make a buck.
Well said. Took us 45 minutes to make the same point lol.
If it's not greed, what could one call it? Your 18 yr business is unsustainable at scale, you stick your hand in someone else's pocket? If one does that, don't the growers one bought from originally, get to stick their hands in _your pocket_ *Ridiculous* 💐
Yah it will be interesting to see how / if they enforce it over time
I don't agree with the retroactive part of this. They could do it going forward in their terms and conditions at the time of purchase. They also should have a partner that does have the space to help grow crops in cooperation with them. I grow Scoop Scabiosa with the understanding that I cannot propagate or resell plants, only the flowers that season. I don't think just because they are tubers makes it any different than propogating a limelight hydrangea, growing it, watering it. Limelight was patented until a couple of years ago and that wasn't allowed. Proven Winners had to get their cut. I think Erin from Floret is trying to help in this kind of plan. I just sounds like the retroactive strategy was not good.
Yes I agree the retroactive part is the part that gives us both the biggest "icks" I'm not familiar specifically with scoop scabiosa but If that's a flower you picked to grow, understanding and agreeing to its rules, then that's of course totally fine! But changing the rules in the middle is what seems so unfair. Plus of course where they chose to make this announcement.
They actually want royalties on cut flowers also. They want royalties on everything. If you sell then they get a cut. They also said that if you donate to a society and the society sell it for $20 and gave the donor $5 then they get the $5 instead of the donor. Instead of the donor sending them $1.15 which is 25%, they want $5 from the original sales price of $20 that the society sold it for. If the society didn't give the donor anything then they don't have to pay royalties.
I admire what they do as far as breeding at Santa Cruz, but their whole message with this new trademarking is so ridiculous. They could have rented land and grown tubers for sales. So silly to act like they’re forced to start charging royalties instead of changing how they run their own farm to make it profitable. If you don’t have room, breed fewer varieties at once and use some space for sales, or get a freaking day job like everyone else who doesn’t make enough on their passion 😭 or at the very least do your trademarks but don’t act like your hand has been forced while you were doing such a good deed that just happened to result in almost half a million dollars in debt.
I think it’s also gross how they make it sound like you can’t sell their tubers without a license and paying royalties. You can, you just can’t use their trademarked name. And then they say “we rely on other growers to get these out into the world” as if those growers are doing them a huge favor. Why take a 25% cut of someone’s profits if they’re doing you a favor?!
Yesss!!! This is so well written and we agree with it all!! The other thing that would make it easier is to just not make it retroactive! Have this apply to new varieties only or even give people some warning a year or two to divest if that's what they want to do.
She sends her stuff to Stonehouse and they sell her varieties. She also gets a cut of that not including her book sales etc
Plus RUclips. Which my guess is they aren't counting towards their farm's bottom line, even though the whole point is to showcase their farm.
John, was Cat convincing you for all the $$$spent on dahlia tubers?😂😂😂
And everyone should pay for someone else’s bad business plan!?!?! Sorry about your bad business plan, however, it’s NOT my plan!!! Dauh!!!!
Also I loved this video, y’all are so charming!
Thank you so much !!! 😊😊
You should stick dahlias in each ear plug my man. It'll look so fun 🤣🩷🌸
🤣 literally 100% of the comments about my ears are nasty and rude, and I'm reading this as genuine so thanks for being the first person in recorded history who makes a comment about my ears that doesn't involve the word gross. Lol
@@OldReddingFarm aww man your reply back made me happy and sad at the same time! 😂 The haters just wish they could stick Dahlias in their earring holes but they can't so they're jealous 🤗😂
@2:45 my favorite line “vegetables is a made up word”. Me before coffee… aren’t all words made up? 😅
Great video. One day I’ll tell you about the worm farming community drama. 🤣 Stay strong. 🫶🏼
I missed the worm farming drama completely. I bought some, raised them, turned them loose to do their job and eventually moved. Can I charge my former landlord for passively improving his property, in perpetuity _and_ exponentially? 😂👍
@@AlpacaMade genius!! 😂 I want in on this too!! I let some go on two properties. 🤣
🤣🤣🤣🤣 I'm just living for the imagined conversation of you telling your landlord you want royalties off his rent in perpetuity due to your improvements. PLEASE let us know how that goes 🐱🐱🐱
Lol saying any word over and over also makes if seem more made up and fake. And your comment and my reply, the word feeling faker and faker is WORD. What even is a word ?
Her name is Kristine not Kiersten
You don’t even know her name, you guys don’t know what you’re talking about- why are you even on here. Do you even know anything about anything.? Sorry this is rough to watch, I feel like you should not be putting out a video if you have never hybridized dahlias- it literally costs so much to bring a dahlia to market - and you just don’t understand. I have been hybridizing for 8 years and still have not brought a dahlia to market- think about if I grew that acre in flowers for cut purposes and tuber production- that’s around 30,000 dollars- you don’t get it
@@aurora2169 difference is they are getting paid through their distributors. You don't know what they made just like me. KA ain't nothing but a deceptive bunch. They even claimed to have the TM already. what this video is saying is factually accurate. KA can go and suck on a big one for all I care.
@@aurora2169😂😂😂😂
Thanks for your opinion. It's valid. And we are all allowed to have one.
Same !