Great video demonstrating the proportions and influence on flow between the nozzle sizes and pump amperage. I think it may be worth consideration though that the actual flow numbers on a bench test will always be higher than in an engine under boost conditions. More boost = less flow.
I can definitely feel and see more mist at the higher pressures, at the lower pressures it’s still atomized with a nice mist and not sending out drops or fine streams. A #6 on max pump setting appeared and felt the same as #12 on pump with lowest setting.
I have this kit with the size 12 nozzle, good to know its likely around 825ml on its default setting, reckon if I turned it clockwise 1 full turn that it would be enough to go to 900 to 950?
I have the old style 150 psi pump that came set at 150 psi and I run the V1 style nozzles with the dual nozzle set up with one 625ml/min nozzle and one 375ml/min so 1000ml/min total you said that was rated at 40 psi? What would I actually be getting running it the 150psi?
@@eddiearchuleta615 Yes, the old V1 nozzles were tested/spec’d at 40psi and the V2 were tested/spec’d at 100psi, that’s how they label the expected cc/gph. I have no idea what your pump would flow, you would have to test it out or call them.
I’m thinking it’s way higher than 1000ml I can just rev the car a few times and the tank will go down about 3/4-1 inch in level and down low i get a little quench and stumble due to too much being injected I don’t have an intercooler on my kennebell two screw so that’s why I’m flooding the thing with methanol/water about a 60/40 meth/water
No, the complete opposite. Clockwise increases amperage which increases pressure. Counterclockwise removes the screw which lowers amperage resulting in a lower pressure.
Since you're knowledgeable about water/meth I have a question. I supercharged my mustang and the car is knocking and pulling timing at 5k rpms and up. Best gas around me is 91. Octane booster is helping but that will get expensive. A performance shop is recommending water/meth. I will tune conservatively just to make sure there's no issues if it doesn't spray. Somebody mention to me not to use the throttle body plate system as it doesn't have enough to mix up and some cylinders will get more than others.
A throttle spacer doesn’t work great on a stock N.A manifold that is designed to pass air, if your using a roots/tvs style blower it replaces the stock intake manifold and the rotors suck in the mixture but that throttle plate will only reduce IAT..to increase octane, you’ll need to spray after the intercooler bricks on a roots blower or on a centrifugal you’ll need to tap each runner of the intake manifold.
@@christopheredgett4919 each "runner" ?? Chris, i.have a mustang as well. I have the snow stage 3 set up. I have a root style eaton m112 sc. My air intake is quite long. Would I tap into the intake approx 8-10 from throttle body? I'm not sure where to get this tapped in to get the best results. Thanks
@@alfenner3309 That’s a TVS1320 from an Audi. The M112 would be totally different, but you should be able to find a spot per runner to drill and tap. Main thing is to set 1x nozzle per runner if you are planning to benefit from the octane increase.
Great video demonstrating the proportions and influence on flow between the nozzle sizes and pump amperage.
I think it may be worth consideration though that the actual flow numbers on a bench test will always be higher than in an engine under boost conditions. More boost = less flow.
Great lab setup❤
this is great info thankyou for sharing... if you were to use a pressure gauge to test what would you use?
How is the atomization of the mist at the different pressure settings?
I can definitely feel and see more mist at the higher pressures, at the lower pressures it’s still atomized with a nice mist and not sending out drops or fine streams. A #6 on max pump setting appeared and felt the same as #12 on pump with lowest setting.
I have this kit with the size 12 nozzle, good to know its likely around 825ml on its default setting, reckon if I turned it clockwise 1 full turn that it would be enough to go to 900 to 950?
I have the old style 150 psi pump that came set at 150 psi and I run the V1 style nozzles with the dual nozzle set up with one 625ml/min nozzle and one 375ml/min so 1000ml/min total you said that was rated at 40 psi? What would I actually be getting running it the 150psi?
@@eddiearchuleta615 Yes, the old V1 nozzles were tested/spec’d at 40psi and the V2 were tested/spec’d at 100psi, that’s how they label the expected cc/gph. I have no idea what your pump would flow, you would have to test it out or call them.
I’m thinking it’s way higher than 1000ml I can just rev the car a few times and the tank will go down about 3/4-1 inch in level and down low i get a little quench and stumble due to too much being injected I don’t have an intercooler on my kennebell two screw so that’s why I’m flooding the thing with methanol/water about a 60/40 meth/water
@@eddiearchuleta615 100% it’s higher than 1000ml, if Snow rated it 1000cc @ 40psi, then at 150psi you are way over that target.
Wow thats is to play with
You need a pressure gauge for better data. Otherwise good vid.
Hi bud, so MAX pressure is all anticlockwise, and MIN pressure all at clockwise?
Right?
No, the complete opposite. Clockwise increases amperage which increases pressure. Counterclockwise removes the screw which lowers amperage resulting in a lower pressure.
At 12:20 what is that bolt for?
Increase/decrease pressure of the pump.
@@christopheredgett4919 for example in the snow performance stage 3 the pressure is adjusted by his computer or by the bolt?
@@argon89 The controller toggles in the pressure from different selected charge pressure points. The screw adjusts the peak pressure.
@@christopheredgett4919 thks u are very kind
Since you're knowledgeable about water/meth I have a question. I supercharged my mustang and the car is knocking and pulling timing at 5k rpms and up. Best gas around me is 91. Octane booster is helping but that will get expensive. A performance shop is recommending water/meth. I will tune conservatively just to make sure there's no issues if it doesn't spray. Somebody mention to me not to use the throttle body plate system as it doesn't have enough to mix up and some cylinders will get more than others.
A throttle spacer doesn’t work great on a stock N.A manifold that is designed to pass air, if your using a roots/tvs style blower it replaces the stock intake manifold and the rotors suck in the mixture but that throttle plate will only reduce IAT..to increase octane, you’ll need to spray after the intercooler bricks on a roots blower or on a centrifugal you’ll need to tap each runner of the intake manifold.
@@christopheredgett4919 each "runner" ??
Chris, i.have a mustang as well. I have the snow stage 3 set up. I have a root style eaton m112 sc. My air intake is quite long. Would I tap into the intake approx 8-10 from throttle body? I'm not sure where to get this tapped in to get the best results.
Thanks
@@alfenner3309 That’s a TVS1320 from an Audi. The M112 would be totally different, but you should be able to find a spot per runner to drill and tap. Main thing is to set 1x nozzle per runner if you are planning to benefit from the octane increase.
@@christopheredgett4919 looking for cooling only.
@@christopheredgett4919 chris, are you saying I may be able to use the throttle body space plate the kit came with?
What do you think a 10GPH nozzle will flow at, minimum & maximum?
Without testing, I wouldn’t know. Guessing somewhere in range of 630cc to 850cc. But that’s a complete wild guess, could be a lot more or less.