Do Pumps Create Pressure or Flow?

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  • Опубликовано: 20 янв 2025

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  • @PracticalEngineeringChannel
    @PracticalEngineeringChannel  3 года назад +289

    💧 Give me your best pump mantras. I'll meditate on the best one.
    📺 Don't forget to jump on this great Nebula/CuriosityStream deal. curiositystream.com/practicalengineering

    • @coolbionicle
      @coolbionicle 3 года назад +95

      Pumps are just power supply's for water circuits.

    • @deathhog
      @deathhog 3 года назад +43

      Pumps propagate proper pressure via fluidic formulation of flow.

    • @joshuartaylor87
      @joshuartaylor87 3 года назад +65

      AHHH EHHH PUSH IT... PUSH IT REAL GOOD!

    • @SamSam-pw9nu
      @SamSam-pw9nu 3 года назад +40

      Pumps create whichever one your system allows

    • @ScottTancock
      @ScottTancock 3 года назад +43

      "Pumps create pressure, outlets convert pressure difference to flow."
      Most pumps work via a mass pushing against water. At the point of interaction, this is without a doubt pressure. It is only because there is an outlet that the water can move out the way and become flow.

  • @JahLuvzU
    @JahLuvzU 3 года назад +3072

    A good rule of thumb is: "If you want an accurate one-liner saying, don`t get involved in hydrodynamics".

    • @Garbaz
      @Garbaz 3 года назад +32

      or electronics.

    • @asmodeusz28
      @asmodeusz28 3 года назад +85

      @@Garbaz I think this one-liner can be generalized over all dynamic systems.

    • @gregs7809
      @gregs7809 3 года назад +54

      @@asmodeusz28 All nonlinear* dynamical systems

    • @minihjalte
      @minihjalte 3 года назад +79

      It can be shortened to: "If you want an accurate one-liner saying, don't get involved."

    • @aiocafea
      @aiocafea 3 года назад +27

      if you want an accurate one-liner saying, don't.

  • @ThisOldTony
    @ThisOldTony 3 года назад +2060

    i need that on a tshirt asap!

    • @PracticalEngineeringChannel
      @PracticalEngineeringChannel  3 года назад +561

      I've never seen you in a t-shirt!

    • @huwaflo
      @huwaflo 3 года назад +50

      Maybe you are better of with a pair of golves?

    • @allawa
      @allawa 3 года назад +20

      Yeah we can't see your shirt so left and right gloves should do the trick

    • @xandb2641
      @xandb2641 3 года назад +2

      Lol advertising

    • @__shifty
      @__shifty 3 года назад +44

      @@PracticalEngineeringChannel HAS ANYONE?! i have it on good authority that he ONLY wears his bday suit in the shop

  • @idatum99
    @idatum99 3 года назад +881

    This video operates where my interest curve and the supply curve intersect.

    • @monad_tcp
      @monad_tcp 3 года назад +11

      @Jeffrey Long that's only important for youtube itself, no one cares about it

    • @calholli
      @calholli 3 года назад +2

      I think you mean interest curve and attention curve intersect.

    • @pleasurewasmine3173
      @pleasurewasmine3173 3 года назад +2

      @@calholli I think he might be just be saying that he likes this content, it’s both interesting and available or supplied to him. Also, isn’t interest and attention about the same in this context, if something has your attention then it must have your interest or vice versa? Lol just speculating

    • @pleasurewasmine3173
      @pleasurewasmine3173 3 года назад

      @Jeffrey Long I think that interest is his demand curve. He is interested in this content ergo he has created a demand for it. Then the supply is this video. Just trying to overthink this, no more than a theory of his message’s meaning haha

    • @rodmackinnon2995
      @rodmackinnon2995 2 года назад +1

      Well done.

  • @jakebrodskype
    @jakebrodskype 3 года назад +782

    As a professional engineer who worked at a water and waste-water utility for over 30 years, let me congratulate you for an excellent presentation. I would really like to see a future presentation on cavitation.

    • @matthewhall5571
      @matthewhall5571 3 года назад +2

      He did one on turbulence before I think. But obviously that's more general and not pump specific.

    • @Kublai_jesus
      @Kublai_jesus 3 года назад +7

      He has a couple vids on cavitation too

    • @dominocweber9763
      @dominocweber9763 3 года назад +1

      Its an interesting concept its it

    • @Daniel-yy3ty
      @Daniel-yy3ty 3 года назад +2

      a little late, but it was just beside your comment... it's a sign :D
      ruclips.net/video/zCE26J0cYWA/видео.html

    • @TheShoemaker208
      @TheShoemaker208 Год назад

      I worked at a processing plant with very precise dosing needs, I would too love to see a presentation on pump cavitation. We saw a lot of busted welds on the suction side of pumps, being where I am now I'd love to see an "outsiders" view on why/how this could happen.

  • @dralexmclean
    @dralexmclean Год назад +83

    As a retired mechanical engineer, indeed pump selection for industrial applications is far from a simple task. Great video

    • @josestorino6369
      @josestorino6369 Год назад +2

      As an aspiring mechanical engineer, I can say it hasn't gotten easier despite all the computational advances in the industry and education. 😆

  • @jonas1340
    @jonas1340 3 года назад +1178

    It actually is rocket science too. The big boy rockets all use pumps for propellant flow and thrust control :)) 0:32

    • @quintessenceSL
      @quintessenceSL 3 года назад +25

      Was going to add how do pumps/fans apply to air? As dad was fond of saying "air is a fluid".

    • @theophrastusbombastus8019
      @theophrastusbombastus8019 3 года назад +47

      Yeah and turbopumps are one of the most expensive and complex part of the rocket (admittedly more the turbine than the pump but still...)

    • @aritakalo8011
      @aritakalo8011 3 года назад +27

      Yeah. What made V2 (/A-4) possible was it being the first turbo pump powered rocket. Development of rockets was very much development of pumps.
      One of the major descriptors of rockets is their turbo pump cycle and turbo pump burner mixture. open cycle, closed cycle, oxygen rich staged, fuel rich staged, full flow staged and so on. It is all pretty much about "what is powering the turbo pump necessary to feed the combustion chamber with enough combustibles". Actually add pump or pumps? Again another major "rocket pump" thing. Do Single pump or do two independent pumps?

    • @taktuscat4250
      @taktuscat4250 3 года назад

      @@quintessenceSL I'm thinking of that too but, isn't that is a compressor?

    • @JK-te2jp
      @JK-te2jp 3 года назад

      Really?

  • @bartz0rt928
    @bartz0rt928 3 года назад +632

    "Not a great catchphrase, but it _is_ accurate." Spoken like a true engineer.

    • @altuber99_athlete
      @altuber99_athlete 3 года назад +3

      That also happens in physics

    • @Serahpin
      @Serahpin 3 года назад +3

      @@altuber99_athlete This reminds me of the SMBC comic with the evil villain ranting that he's "actually doing something" when the hero calls his work "pure evil."

    • @gasfiltered
      @gasfiltered 3 года назад +1

      Technically correct...the best kind of correct

    • @altuber99_athlete
      @altuber99_athlete 3 года назад

      @Qimodis Can you share an example? I'm not saying otherwise, though. I was just saying that physicists (and mathematicians) are also rigorous with definitions.

    • @calholli
      @calholli 3 года назад +2

      @@gasfiltered Its actually technically incorrect. If you understand ohm's law, think of pressure as the "ohms" of a system; Pumps don't create pressure-- because pressure is actually measuring the "resistance" of flow. The "current" is flow, and the "voltage" would be the capacity rating of your pump. The bigger the pump, the more potential for flow, the more it is resisted, the higher the pressure. Once you look at it that way, its easier to see how pressure is actually on the other side of the equation.

  • @krisb1999
    @krisb1999 3 года назад +135

    I work for a pump company, and I want to show this to all our customers who I swear don't understand pumps. Well done. I look forward to your future pump videos!

    • @emceeboogieboots1608
      @emceeboogieboots1608 3 года назад +5

      I work for a company that uses pumps and I can see where you are coming from. As an operator we often see incorrect pumps for applications, often due to plant upgrades or changes.
      Often there are such administrative impediments to making a change that engineers just persist with what is in place
      And budgets...

    • @coolhandluke423
      @coolhandluke423 3 года назад +4

      I feel your pain. I'm also a pump technician. My favorite question wothba new pump installation is "will this give me more pressure?" -Well not if your have the same pressure switch or transducer setpoint- happens once a week.

    • @mattgolman
      @mattgolman 3 года назад +5

      I'm a pump designer and I'm showing this to new engineers as part 1 of onboarding.

    • @midship_nc
      @midship_nc 3 года назад +5

      i work for a mechanical seal manufacturer, even less understood...feel your pain lol

    • @mattgolman
      @mattgolman 3 года назад +5

      @@midship_nc From the pump engineer: your work is appreciated.

  • @dragonatorul
    @dragonatorul 3 года назад +349

    "This isn't rocket science". I'm not a rocket surgeon, but I'm pretty sure pumps and fluid dynamics are a big part of at least designing rocket engines and fuel tanks.

    • @arkie87
      @arkie87 3 года назад +41

      i heard a professor once say "come on guys, this isnt rocket science... though it is USED in rocket science"

    • @vast634
      @vast634 3 года назад +18

      Designing a good efficient turbo pump is like 30% of the engineering going into a rocket.

    • @forloop7713
      @forloop7713 2 года назад +4

      Rocket engines are all about pumps and turbines

    • @cameron3991
      @cameron3991 2 года назад +1

      I work and design pumps, in line pumps, all different kinds of chillers, VRF systems and some of the hardest electronic plc diagnostics you can do. I quit school when I was 15 never finished and now I easily make 6 figures a year.

    • @alejandrosrwebmaster
      @alejandrosrwebmaster 2 года назад

      @@forloop7713 Reaction engine leaves the room

  • @shortstack4668
    @shortstack4668 2 года назад +45

    Even though this is aimed a lot more at civil engineering concepts, for me who is studying chemical engineering, this channel is so informative to conceptualize and understand physical setups of a bunch of engineering concepts.
    Thank you for the content!

  • @HATECELL
    @HATECELL 3 года назад +223

    This is basically the hydraulic version of the discussion whether an electric source provides current or voltage. And as my university teacher likes to say: "what they have taught you in school might not be wrong, but the full story is a lot more complicated".

    • @crabcrab2024
      @crabcrab2024 3 года назад +2

      I would guess it depends on the natures of the source and the load. ;)

    • @solventtrapdotcom6676
      @solventtrapdotcom6676 3 года назад +13

      I was about to make the same comment. The correct answer is to ask which exists without a circuit. Voltage/pressure always exists. Flow only occurs when a path to release the pressure is provided. Flow varies depending on resistance. Pumps create pressure. Flow is a byproduct and function of the connected circuit.

    • @timsmith2525
      @timsmith2525 3 года назад +4

      It's necessary to create a simple model with which to begin instruction; otherwise, you'd never get to a full understanding. The real world is always more complex then people's simple models of the world.

    • @nc7432
      @nc7432 3 года назад

      @@solventtrapdotcom6676 i think this is a really good way to put it

    • @solventtrapdotcom6676
      @solventtrapdotcom6676 3 года назад

      @@nc7432 Because it comes from decades of experience. ;-)

  • @HobbyPackRat
    @HobbyPackRat 3 года назад +92

    "this is the first of 2 videos... let me know if you want to see more". Grady, i'd watch a video on anything that you passionately explain. You explain complex topics simply with great demonstrations. Any subject is interesting in your videos. Keep up the great work.

    • @wantu2much
      @wantu2much 3 года назад +6

      Honestly he could narrate paint drying, and talk about how the chemical changes to paint drying, and it would be interesting.

    • @Khaim.m
      @Khaim.m 3 года назад +5

      Same. I have absolutely no practical use for anything he explains but I still watch all his videos because it's so interesting.

  • @poisonpotato1
    @poisonpotato1 3 года назад +227

    When I was in college I understood it as, pumps create pressure which gives fluid energy, difference in pressure causes velocity/flow.

    • @florisr9
      @florisr9 3 года назад +19

      Just like a net positive force creates acceleration, not the other way around.

    • @eswing2153
      @eswing2153 3 года назад +1

      For gas right? But fluids I thought weren’t compressible.

    • @JPFighter93
      @JPFighter93 3 года назад +26

      @@eswing2153 everything is compressible, even fluids and solids. They just need a lot more pressure to compress in comparison to gases. And fluids under pressure also store a bit of energy by expanding their containers.

    • @grill-surf-bust
      @grill-surf-bust 3 года назад +7

      Yep. Nature seeks equilibrium, and we provide power in one form to create energy gradients to drive a flow that can be used for something else.

    • @praisethyjeebus
      @praisethyjeebus 3 года назад +2

      @@eswing2153 a fluid is just a substance that flows and takes the shape of its container, gasses and liquids are fluids. In some cases solids are fluids as well.

  • @Exentity
    @Exentity Год назад +11

    I’m a certified fluid power hydraulic specialist (CFPHS), and I really liked how you tackled this topic. Definitely showing it to my friends

    • @nolesy34
      @nolesy34 Год назад

      It really coupled to me

  • @FowlerAskew
    @FowlerAskew Год назад +25

    Rewatching this video after measuring I-V curves for lots of small solar panels is really making the similarities between water and electricity stand out. Photovoltaic output is incredibly load-dependant (that's why we use MPPT controllers for all but the most basic solar setups) and the curve describing the output naturally looks a lot like the pressure vs flow rate graphs you showed of the pumps.

  • @Sinyao
    @Sinyao 3 года назад +218

    As a chemical engineer that works with pumps on a regular basis, I enjoyed this.

    • @dank1131
      @dank1131 3 года назад +1

      As a chem eng grad I agree

    • @happymeal5182
      @happymeal5182 3 года назад +3

      Stranger on the internet is happy for you

    • @MrAminalCrackers
      @MrAminalCrackers 3 года назад +6

      As another engineer, I feel the need to tell everyone that I am also an engineer.

    • @honiahakaa
      @honiahakaa 3 года назад +1

      another engineer here i work in boosting station " compression 5002D turbines

  • @thehoovah
    @thehoovah 3 года назад +332

    Its like the argument, "its not the fall that kills you, its the sudden stop at the end"

    • @pflaffik
      @pflaffik 3 года назад +23

      Its not the fall, its the wife who pushed you.

    • @whiteerdydude
      @whiteerdydude 3 года назад +21

      This may be a fun comment, but it isn't the same. The sudden velocity change is exactly kills you and other objects. So your phrase is actually perfectly accurate. The fall itself is irrelevant to the impact, as it isn't what accelerates you are deccelerates you. Rockets in orbit are falling around the body they are orbiting, yet they gained their velocity by firing their engines.

    • @hpekristiansen
      @hpekristiansen 3 года назад +11

      @@whiteerdydude Like for most words and phrases there are a scientific definition and an everyday definition(by exemplification). "a fall" is normally understood as the event including losing your anchoring point, falling and landing. So yes - that event can most definitely kill you.

    • @whiteerdydude
      @whiteerdydude 3 года назад +4

      @@hpekristiansen thehoovah seperated the fall and impact in the figure of speech, so that point is not a valid defense of the phrase semantically speaking.

    • @josephburchanowski4636
      @josephburchanowski4636 3 года назад +7

      @@whiteerdydude Well it isn't the sudden velocity change that kills you, it is that different parts of your body under go the sudden velocity change at different rates.
      If the rapid change in velocity was applied to all atoms in your body equally at the same time, you wouldn't be hurt by the rapid velocity change.

  • @smkymtnsaws163
    @smkymtnsaws163 3 года назад +55

    As a HVAC/R tradesman, I meet lots of people who don’t understand this. Engineers and tradesman. I don’t fully understand it yet but that’s why I’m here!

    • @alb12345672
      @alb12345672 3 года назад +2

      Heart and blood vessels work the same way. Narrow blood vessels create high blood pressure.

    • @Lucien86
      @Lucien86 3 года назад

      People who don't know talking to people who don't know creates great confusion. Also the one who has the loudest voice but knows the least always seems to have the greatest ability to transfer their knowledge and confusion.

  • @andrewdaumueller5443
    @andrewdaumueller5443 Год назад +19

    Excellent video. It would have been nice to have this kind of thing when I was in college for civil engineering. Fluid mechanics was one of the harder classes for me to grasp. I doubt current students recognize how blessed they are to have access to content like this, bridging the gap between the academic concepts and how they manifest is reality. How about this for a catch phrase: "pumps don't create anything, but rather transfer energy into the system, which manifests in the form of flow and/or pressure".

    • @philemonsaina2863
      @philemonsaina2863 9 месяцев назад

      Unfortunately they dont realize how Lucky they are

  • @richardwebb9532
    @richardwebb9532 3 года назад

    I worked for town councils doing water reticulation and sewerage for 30 years, your presentation is perfect.

  • @grmasdfII
    @grmasdfII 3 года назад +28

    "Here in my garage", just bought this new pump, it's really fun accelerating liquid into the discharge line. But you know what I like more than the physics of pumps? Performance.

  • @jimbolimbobimbo369
    @jimbolimbobimbo369 3 года назад +20

    In 10 mins you explained how characteristic & system curves interact better than any text book I was ever shown. As a HVAC engineer who deals with centrifugal pumps quite often, I wish I saw this video during uni. Could've saved me a lot of time...

    • @michaelwitt7984
      @michaelwitt7984 3 года назад +2

      HVAC engineer here too. Totally sending this to my Jr engineers.

    • @gregholloway2656
      @gregholloway2656 3 года назад +1

      Retired HVAC guy here. Thanks for the great explanation, Grady.

  • @Konenstro
    @Konenstro 3 года назад +18

    that composite video of the three beakers was great :)

  • @pasabalyemez1
    @pasabalyemez1 3 года назад +1

    As a mechanical engineer in a food plant who's currently working on replacing cooling tower 20yrs old circulation pumps (6 pumps, each of 750m3/h, 132kw) with new energy efficient pumps. Really enjoyed the video! Good job!

  • @lilitychan
    @lilitychan 9 месяцев назад +1

    I worked for 7 years in the activity of pitometry in water supply pump stations, using ultrasonic flowmeters, analyzing the behavior of flows and pressures and their relationship with the water levels of the well and aquifer, and that was an amazing experience for me, personally besides the dam inspectios is one of my favorite works in hydraulic engineering. Sometimes the sound of the pump motor says you that something is going wrong, in some cases because the pumps work "out of parameters" (with the curve displaced from the optimal operating range), and that's something that often is not taking in account, the correct selection of the pump according the needs of the system.

  • @jedidiahwest4619
    @jedidiahwest4619 3 года назад +27

    Brings me back to my WW plant managing days. In a small town, we all had to think like engineers because the city was too cheap to pay for a real one. Every time I had the chance to talk to an engineer, I would soak it up.

  • @advanceringnewholder
    @advanceringnewholder 3 года назад +147

    0:21 Mehdi: "THANK YOU!!!"

  • @JamesSimmons
    @JamesSimmons 3 года назад +2182

    I'm an electrician. Everytime I hear it's not the voltage that kills you, it's the current, I slap them in the face and tell them it wasn't the velocity of my hand that hurt them, but the weight of it. Of course the real answer is it's the MOMENTUM of the hand i.e POWER that hurts you.

    • @noalear
      @noalear 3 года назад +79

      Next time someone says that just zap them with static and ask how they survived being shocked with tens of thousands of volts. I've laid fingers across a 225W piezo driver output before. The Dorito's looking spot on my fingers also smelled like Doritos. ~25kHz ~36V ~6A is wicked and I really didn't expect it.

    • @danieljensen2626
      @danieljensen2626 3 года назад +39

      Kind of gets into the weeds of what is a voltage source and what is a current source. Would be interesting to know actually what average voltage across the body is associated with the fatal 2mA of current through the heart though.

    • @earache294
      @earache294 3 года назад +59

      it only takes 1/10th of one amp across your heart " right hand to left foot for example " it is the amps that kill you.. you forgot the 3rd item in ohm's law " resistance". making it possible to take 50,000 volts of electricity from a police taser without dieing, in fact that 50k volts can be maintained by a police taser up to 5 seconds.. yet to person lives just fine no permanent damage. in the end it IS the amps that Kill you not the voltage...

    • @v8snail
      @v8snail 3 года назад +129

      @@earache294
      You couldn't be more wrong. That 50kV is the free-air measurement. Tasers cannot supply more than a very limited current so as soon as the circuit is loaded, i.e. by someones body, the voltage drops to a much lower voltage following ohms law.
      If a taser could sustain 50kV even under skin load there would be around 50A flowing. That just doesn't happen.

    • @JamesSimmons
      @JamesSimmons 3 года назад +101

      @@earache294 that's a slap in the face for you. The proper answer to the age old question of is it current or potential that kill you is; YES. These are two measures of one thing; the electromagnetic force. Trying to talk about them as mutually exclusive entities is incredibly pointless.

  • @ronmasters751
    @ronmasters751 3 года назад +2

    Had a long, confused discussion over lunch one day with a friend who needed to pump water into a very high reservoir, and was trying to arrange multiple pumps. This clarifies the whole problem.

  • @roccodifranco7866
    @roccodifranco7866 Год назад

    I worked for a water utility for 38 years as a union millright Hackensack water , United water , SUEZ water , installation, repair, and maintenance, great video for people who do not know what pumps do ,the Engineers and my company constantly Installed pumps that did not perform as advertised

  • @LQC2556
    @LQC2556 3 года назад +62

    Reminds me too much of Electroboom's mantra on voltage vs. current: "It is not necessarily a supply voltage at no load, but the amount of current it can provide when touched that indicates how much hurting you shall receive, because a touched supply voltage may drop if its current is somehow limited."

    • @panda4247
      @panda4247 3 года назад +3

      @soiung toiue I think that it's something like "it's not the speed that kills you. It's the sudden stop". And also, from the Discworld books "I don't fear heights. I fear the depths below them."

  • @IstasPumaNevada
    @IstasPumaNevada 3 года назад +7

    "Let me know if you want to see more"
    I'd love to see more!
    Seriously, your channel is one of my favorites.

  • @stefStg200
    @stefStg200 3 года назад +5

    Hi, I work in an refinery and work with pumps, turbines and compressors every day.
    You made a very good video, couldnt explain it better :)

  • @NickShabazz
    @NickShabazz 3 года назад +33

    This was a really great video, thanks! Loved the graphs!

    • @markmywords5342
      @markmywords5342 3 года назад

      ​@gioyu comi Long story short, for the motor it's because of eddy currents.
      For the motor it has to do with the design of the motor. A motor has an ideal operating range. If the motor is spinning too slow, you're not getting bang for your buck (low flow rate). Too fast, and the fields generated by the motor start to interfere with eachother (eddy currents) and its efficiency goes down... so the idea is to get the correct size motor. If you get too big or too small a motor, you strain the motor and make it inefficient. Good electricity goes to waste if you don't select the correct motor... so it's good on your electric bill as well to find the perfect motor.
      In regard to the system curve, I think it's because the pressure drop due to friction in the pipe isn't linear. Watch his other vid on pressure and flow. He's got a part with the hazen williams equation.

  • @kitsuneprincess4637
    @kitsuneprincess4637 3 года назад

    I feel like I've already seen this comment on one of your videos, but the "I love pumps!" (1:05) has real "I love refrigerators!" energy and I love it

  • @OADINC
    @OADINC 3 года назад +22

    That graph at 3:20 is amazing no longer does anyone need to convert the units I love it!

    • @beboshi69
      @beboshi69 3 года назад

      If only such a scale was used in industry.

    • @stevenstart8728
      @stevenstart8728 3 года назад +1

      Most of us don’t have to convert because we a smart enough to use metric instead of the system that was invented by people who married their own cousins.

  • @dj7291993
    @dj7291993 3 года назад +427

    “Do pumps create pressure or flow?”
    “Yes.”

    • @okiiPL
      @okiiPL 3 года назад +4

      they pump XD

    • @mrxmry3264
      @mrxmry3264 3 года назад +25

      they create pressure. then the fluid responds to that pressure by flowing.

    • @MiniEquine
      @MiniEquine 3 года назад +17

      @@mrxmry3264 exactly this. Like how a battery creates a voltage differential in a circuit, a pump creates a pressure differential. Fluid in the high pressure side will need to move to the low pressure side but the pump prevents it from going backwards, so it must move through the system first.

    • @mrxmry3264
      @mrxmry3264 3 года назад +1

      @@MiniEquine correct.

    • @schwig44
      @schwig44 3 года назад +4

      @Tom R avatar checks out

  • @nwmancuso
    @nwmancuso 3 года назад +77

    2:53 “And now through the magic of buying 3 of them!” -TC

  • @t_c5266
    @t_c5266 3 года назад +24

    Your new vs old pump mantra is like the "money doesn't buy happiness" one. I revised that phrase to say "money can't directly purchase happiness or friends because they aren't purchasable items, but it can however make your life easier and facilitate many things that do make you happy and will overall improve your happiness versus your position if you didn't have it."

    • @joeespo177
      @joeespo177 3 года назад +2

      Money can't buy happiness, but it makes being miserable easier to tolerate.

    • @t_c5266
      @t_c5266 3 года назад +4

      @@joeespo177 Like I said. Happiness is not a purchasable quantity. However, theres not a single person on this world who would rather be miserable and poor over miserable and rich.

    • @robertwalsh9904
      @robertwalsh9904 3 года назад

      Can we get that on a t shirt?

    • @General12th
      @General12th 3 года назад +1

      Broadly speaking, I like say "money can't add happiness, but it can subtract unhappiness, and sometimes that's good enough".

  • @nicklewis9639
    @nicklewis9639 3 года назад +1

    Awesome video! I am a project engineer for a large diameter(54” into 92”) sewer project where we bypass 30MGD. I just went through learning all this and this video does a great job simplifying a complicated topic.

  • @deathhog
    @deathhog 3 года назад +159

    "Let me know if - . . ."
    The answer is yes, Brady. The answer will always be, "Yes. We do want to know more. Please, be as in depth as possible."
    Edit:
    Oh! Do come and join the argument over pressure vs flow below. It will help the channel's engagement.

    • @MeriaDuck
      @MeriaDuck 3 года назад

      Very true

    • @ubersham
      @ubersham 3 года назад +9

      I thought his name is Grady

    • @superjugy
      @superjugy 3 года назад

      THIS^

    • @Averna222
      @Averna222 3 года назад +1

      @@ubersham It is.

    • @calholli
      @calholli 3 года назад

      But he's wrong... If you understand ohm's law, think of pressure as the "ohms" of a system; Pumps don't create pressure-- because pressure is actually measuring the "resistance" of flow. The "current" is flow, and the "voltage" would be the capacity rating of your pump. The bigger the pump, the more potential for flow, the more it is resisted, the higher the pressure. Once you look at it that way, its easier to see how pressure is actually on the other side of the equation.

  • @mguy19
    @mguy19 3 года назад +76

    "Pumps be like: here have this fluid, unless it's too much trouble..."

  • @c31979839
    @c31979839 3 года назад +5

    More pump videos!
    Any video topic you're passionate about is a video I'll enjoy watching! Your passion and interest comes through so much on these videos.

  • @asterope1604
    @asterope1604 3 года назад +1

    I'm an engineer in a pump repair shop and make and fit mechanical seals to them, this video was fantastic.
    Plus to prove pumps do create pressure, it's in their design, the volute has that spiral shape that once the product has been moved off the impeller eye to the walls of the volute it follows this spiral to the discharge and as the volute opens up the fluid builds up and loses flow and builds pressure before leaving the discharge, which is why the suction always larger than the discharge, to create pressure.

  • @DoctorMangler
    @DoctorMangler 3 года назад +15

    As a plumber I really appreciate this video. You opened my eyes to new ideas, and I love pumps too. I work with hydronic pumps so we go for efficiency and longevity rather than high flow or head. There are issues however with placement that can impede or enhance cavitation and also entrapped air removal through traps or high points. Thanks again for all these great videos!

  • @hellohypo2009
    @hellohypo2009 3 года назад +5

    Really classy break with the fountain with your melody in the background. So grounding... such soothing... many subscribe.

  • @revenevan11
    @revenevan11 3 года назад +7

    I thought immediately of the popular (and less than correct) voltage/current saying that you mentioned when I saw the title. Excited to learn more about pumps in this video!

  • @user-bo2cu1dt8j
    @user-bo2cu1dt8j 3 года назад +4

    Great video Grady, your content always consolidates what I learn in class but you deliver it with much more enthusiasm which not only makes it more interesting, but helps my understanding of topics so much

  • @americanmacgyver
    @americanmacgyver 2 года назад

    Thanks!

  • @miketrissel5494
    @miketrissel5494 3 года назад +35

    Boy do I wish we had an engineer like you, 20 years ago. I was an electrician that seemed to have absorbed/dumped into the water system where I worked. (Now retired) They had 4 vertical 1000 gallon / minute Deming pumps that outputted through 8” ID pipe, into a 14” header/collector pipe, sending water from a settling pond, ¼ mile back to the main plant. They kept adding more and more equipment, that needed cooling water, so the engineer kept adding pumps. No matter what he did, the pressure and the volume, ¼ mile away never increased. (Eventually up to 8 pumps) I tried to show him the folly of forcing more water through that same 14” pipe was futile, with an impeller driven pump, but the engineer looked at me as if I was a moron, till he finally got to see the amperage going down on each pump motor as other pumps were manually turned on. (Took 4 clamp-on's at once to visualize it)
    If you would, show how an ammeter is a good tool to check and set up pumps, check wear on impellers, and the need to set the pumps at 100% load (rather than 70-80%), to get the best balance out of multiple pump systems. Some of the newer people to the field would benefit. Most people see pump curves, and just shrug their shoulders. Setting them up is fascinating though, especially when the mechanic foreman comes to you, with his budget for the year, and asks, which pump is showing the least efficiency, and you can show him with an ammeter, and a pressure gauges, which impellers are wearing the most, in parallel multi-pump systems. I’d be glad to feed you my notes, but it sounds like you have all you need.
    Thanks,
    Mike

    • @domenicobianchi8
      @domenicobianchi8 2 месяца назад

      i really would like to read those notes! i do really need them as well. I'm being serious sir

    • @miketrissel5494
      @miketrissel5494 2 месяца назад +1

      @@domenicobianchi8 Been retired from that job for 14 years now, but I will see what I can dig up. It won't be much, in that most of the companies documents stayed with the company, but most of what I will dig up are probably viewable from Deming Pumps. The Pump flow rate curves show what you get, but are not easy to understand at first, especially without an actual pump in front of you. Don't give up on me for an answer - might be a while. Mike Trissel

    • @domenicobianchi8
      @domenicobianchi8 2 месяца назад

      @@miketrissel5494 thank you so much for the effort! i will wait with hope and gratitude

  • @Patmccalk
    @Patmccalk 3 года назад +10

    Honestly, who dislikes a video that’s completely educational? Outrageous

    • @SonsOfLorgar
      @SonsOfLorgar 3 года назад +3

      Usually a person with religious or conservative convictions or both ;)

    • @Patmccalk
      @Patmccalk 3 года назад +1

      @@SonsOfLorgar “you can’t know that because GAWD”

    • @--_DJ_--
      @--_DJ_-- 3 года назад +3

      Probably people who don't like his delivery. I didn't really enjoy the video, but I wouldn't go as far as giving it a thumbs down.

    • @revimfadli4666
      @revimfadli4666 3 года назад

      @@SonsOfLorgar i like the irony of wild guessing here

    • @simondwilkinson
      @simondwilkinson 3 года назад +2

      It's educational but not the best quality. He doesn't actually explain that much, just says "pumps are more complicated than you thought" in a long winded way. He shows the characteristic curves, but doesn't attempt to explain why they have the shape that they do. The conclusion is literally just "the flow rate depends on the whole system, not just the pump".

  • @1stGenHomestead
    @1stGenHomestead 3 года назад +5

    I've been working towards my distribution four water license and my collections 3 license and these videos have really helped me

  • @dieseldork6
    @dieseldork6 3 года назад +1

    More urban planners need to watch this. Your video describes every day for me while I design wet pipe fire sprinkler systems balancing water flow from the public utilities against what is required to drive the sprinkler system. One other fun fact for pumps is that the less water you have to work with, the less pump you need to add the required flow. Adding a bigger pump to a system with marginal pressure makes for frustrating calculations! Thanks for the video 👍🏻

  • @jeeprod1
    @jeeprod1 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for the informative video. I worked years for a plant in which we did not have a clear understanding of what pumps are capable of. We had to move 10,000 gpm of a slurry containing a crystal formation that centrifugal pumps were hard on. Plus, before we discovered mechanical seals, we were pumping 500 gpm of diluting water into the packing glands, We were burdened with having to repair packing and replacing ballraces on a crippling frequency. At the end of my time at that plant, we had new minds coming on who introduced us to eddy pumps, which changed things . I wish we had youtube and videos like yours to teach us these things back then.

  • @ydihtty
    @ydihtty 3 года назад +99

    "Do pumps create pressure or flow?"
    "Yes."

    • @Tjita1
      @Tjita1 3 года назад +2

      "Yesn't."

    • @keith_5584
      @keith_5584 3 года назад +1

      They also pump moonrock gel, Blue bouncy goo, and superfast orange hydrocarbons. May contain traces of TimeTravel, forward and backward.

  • @clydecessna737
    @clydecessna737 3 года назад +4

    Nice to hear a presenter with good diction and memorable presentation techniques.

  • @lukeprivett9867
    @lukeprivett9867 3 года назад +5

    PLEASE MAKE MORE THAN 2 PUMP VIDEOS GRADY

    • @millomweb
      @millomweb 3 года назад

      'Chemical engineer' - such a vague title.
      What is the difficulty in selecting a pump ?

  • @trharrington22
    @trharrington22 3 года назад +1

    8:23 the excitement in his face and voice when he gave us the catchphrase

  • @nostrilnick
    @nostrilnick 3 года назад

    I spent almost 20 years as a mechanical engineer at various pump manufacturing companies designing/developing centrifugal pumps for the water/wastewater and chemical processing industries. This video was a great primer for people getting started in understanding pumps and fluid transfer principals. Well done. Your civil engineering videos almost make me wish I'd studied that instead!

  • @TheSustainableFamilyMan
    @TheSustainableFamilyMan 3 года назад +6

    Geez Grady... I wish you would've posted this video 2 days ago. I just submitted my capstone project designing a pump system and I could've used this :D

  • @ithasbeenwritten222
    @ithasbeenwritten222 3 года назад +54

    I’ve had a lot of friends who are engineers, i myself am a mechanic, and I always smile when i see Grady puts little eyeballs on the action pieces knowing full well how special it is for an engineer to humanize things for the rest of us emotional non-Vulcans. It’s a special breed who can bridge that gap. 🖖🏽
    And amazing how much of a difference they make! 👀

  • @kamilgorecki9898
    @kamilgorecki9898 2 года назад +5

    Pump as an active element of pipes system provides delivery of the mechanical energy (with respect to time - power) to the fluid which is given as Q•H (for one unit of the specific weight of the fluid). Centrifugal pump was considered in the video thus shape or geometry of the impeller/rotor is strictly associated with its specific speed coefficient (kinematic or dynamic). These types of machines increase kinetic energy of the fluid (also momentum) when non zero net torque is acting on the shaft - see Euler's equation... then most of the kinetic energy is converted into potential energy (geometric elevation & static pressure) as diameter of outlet increases. Total head is a function of discharge H(Q). Briefly speaking, pump is an active source of energy for fluid and pipes as passive elements consume it (dissipation). Thus, actual resistance of pipes (throttling, roughness, length, diameter, elbows...) determine flow rate for a given source of the energy - pump (related to rpm). Thinking in terms of the energy and conservation laws is always usefull

  • @erikpetto3672
    @erikpetto3672 3 года назад +1

    I just wanted to say I've discovered this channel somewhat recently, and I'm in love with it. Teachers could learn a lot from Mr Engineering's (I'm assuming his name is Grady Engineering) way of explaining core concepts without relying on cumbersome maths.

  • @gauravrade8908
    @gauravrade8908 3 года назад

    Man you just nailed it. YOUR CHANNEL DESERVED THE NAME YOU HAVE GIVEN TO IT

  • @ScamstinCrew
    @ScamstinCrew 3 года назад +3

    would love to see a video covering impeller pumps. I worked at a valve shop where the serviced crude oil pumps and they used impellers to "pull" the fluid though. the multi stage versions also did a "crossover" so the pumps impellers pushed or pulled on each other instead of generating a huge thrust load to one side. might be an interesting episode.

  • @jcprov9481
    @jcprov9481 3 года назад +8

    Can we take a moment to pay respects to the sheer amount of time and money spent on these models to demonstrate the concepts in these videos? They are part of the reason I love this channel so much.

  • @do_hickey
    @do_hickey 3 года назад +5

    Well done! As someone who does TIC for fire pumps, this was incredibly well put together. You probably know more than I do about the topic, but I have lots of experience with pumps if you want to reach out for any info!

  • @andrewchristopherharry4797
    @andrewchristopherharry4797 Год назад

    Mister Grady, should be named viewers man of the year. Thanks for teaching

  • @niboe1312
    @niboe1312 3 года назад +2

    Forget the graphs. "Pumps create both flow and pressure. The same pump can create more of one and less of the other if you put it in a different pipe system."
    The trick to catchiness is (among other things) to simplify and use concrete wording.
    The example demonstration you made in this video is a really helpful too. If there's some common home example that could demonstrate this point, that would be good to include in the mantra. I can't think of any myself though.

  • @Petair23
    @Petair23 3 года назад +3

    I love your work. If I was a TV exec, you'd be the next Mike Rowe. Your voice and manner of speech are so welcoming and very pleasing. Not to mention, you're super smart and have a gift for explaining whatev in such an understandable and factual way. Plus, you're covering topics that, for me, just hit home in such a good way. I'm curious about the world I'm living in, and you give a whole lotta answers. Please keep up the fabulous work! Do you have a Patreon or Merch?

  • @yoshyoka
    @yoshyoka 3 года назад +4

    Very nicely done: you have a talent of making complex topics easy to understand.
    There is one complication more: positive displacement pumps which make use of elastic elements (diaphragm, persitaltic etc..) will also provide different flows at different pressures; for some the difference will be tiny, for others quite significant.

  • @Aa-ron01
    @Aa-ron01 3 года назад +4

    5:52 that 45° pump bypass setup is genius.

    • @PerMortensen
      @PerMortensen 3 года назад +2

      Can you explain? I'm not sure the significance of what I'm looking at.

    • @Aa-ron01
      @Aa-ron01 3 года назад

      Most bypass paths use 90° corners which is terrible for efficiency and pressure drops, given the diameter of the pipe the contents are more than likely heavy and the less you need to steer the fluid the better.

    • @PerMortensen
      @PerMortensen 3 года назад

      @@Aa-ron01 I see. That seems like quite an obvious solution, rather than something genius. Any particular reason it's not commonly done?

    • @Aa-ron01
      @Aa-ron01 3 года назад

      @@PerMortensen I haven't a clue, it could be standard practice for them it's just not something I've seen before. But I'm 27 so there's a lot I haven't seen yet. Besides doesn't everything seem obvious and logical when it's pointed out and explained?

    • @PerMortensen
      @PerMortensen 3 года назад

      @@Aa-ron01 Yeah, that's a fair point.

  • @ellisphotographyvideograph8171
    @ellisphotographyvideograph8171 Год назад +1

    Nice job. Enjoyed the video. The pump creates differential pressure which in turn produces flow just like a difference in voltage potential will produce a current. That’s how I was taught.

  • @heeryanus
    @heeryanus 3 года назад

    Wisdom taught me when doing work in the process and energy department of my university: If your setup doesn't leak, its a bad setup. Some very good setups in this video :)

  • @andrewjvaughan
    @andrewjvaughan 3 года назад +152

    I must be pumped for this video because there was 0 resistance from me.

    • @moeron9172
      @moeron9172 3 года назад +5

      ba dum tsss

    • @gorillaau
      @gorillaau 3 года назад +1

      No pressure on releasing the second video from me, either.

    • @gus473
      @gus473 3 года назад +2

      And the puns start flowing.....!

    • @gorillaau
      @gorillaau 3 года назад +3

      @@gus473 But the pressure to find another pun increases over time, and the flow decreases accordingly.

    • @erwinli6962
      @erwinli6962 3 года назад

      So no head?

  • @bsimpson505
    @bsimpson505 3 года назад +4

    I am a firefighter and I have been really enjoying your pump and hydrodynamics videos. Helping me understand some fundamental concepts that inform my pump ops training.

  • @oplkfdhgk
    @oplkfdhgk 3 года назад +15

    I am pumped!

  • @Jbonneville6572
    @Jbonneville6572 Год назад

    As a farmer who uses pumps all the time in many different forms for various activities I find the pump videos super interesting!! I can relate to about everything your saying we pump millions of gallons of fresh water every year for crop irrigation as well as millions of gallons of liquid livestock manure for fertilizer.

  • @TheDuckCallDoctor
    @TheDuckCallDoctor 3 года назад

    I love watching Grady this dude right here needs to sit down and have a beer with me I’m a retired operator I loved my job and I miss it he’s a lot of entertainment God bless you Grady

  • @gautammarwaha2903
    @gautammarwaha2903 3 года назад +20

    “Internet pump enthusiast” - cracked me up!!

  • @pwtech6767
    @pwtech6767 3 года назад +4

    Cool! Do positive displacement pumps next? Or if you REALLY want to have fun trying to figure out what category to put it in, look at a Disc Pump from Discflo. Great way to instigate a class-wide argument in any fluid dynamics or pump-related engineering class.
    Edit: If you want to borrow a couple, I've got a few types of positive displacement pumps that I can drop off in your garage. Also know some folks who have clear cut-away (working!) progressive cavity, rotary lobe and maybe other types of positive displacement pumps if you wanted to do a video on different types.

  • @jajssblue
    @jajssblue 3 года назад +25

    Pumps impart energy/work. That is expressed as both flow and pressure in different parts of the fluid path.

    • @jajssblue
      @jajssblue 3 года назад +7

      I think part of the confusion might come from the conflation with discussions of incompressible and compressible fluids. Water is taught as incompressible, which is practically true and so people jump to the idea that a build up of pressure can't be what is occurring. Which is ironic since hydraulic pressure is probably an intuitive concept until they start studying fluids at a college level. Just goes to show how diverse and confusing the subject can be at first when you're learning about different aspects instead of thinking about it as an integrated whole.

    • @andrewh2341
      @andrewh2341 3 года назад +2

      Totally agree, the Bernoulli eq (assuming simplified models) says that pressure, head, and flow are all basically the same and interchangeable. It’s just conservation of work and energy.

  • @bensimmons8974
    @bensimmons8974 3 года назад

    The simile at the end of the video is so genuine. I LOVE IT!

  • @wolfchanel2879
    @wolfchanel2879 2 года назад

    I'm have a bachelor's in chemical engineering and this is the clearest explanation I've ever heard of pump curves

  • @busterbeagle2167
    @busterbeagle2167 3 года назад +43

    Grady, it’s like the old saying
    Build it and they will come.
    Upload it and I’ll watch.
    Edit- and give it a thumbs up. Lol

    • @Nosirrbro
      @Nosirrbro 3 года назад

      @Tom R The whole concept either way is kinda outdated and too simplistic to be genuinely descriptive of reality

    • @busterbeagle2167
      @busterbeagle2167 3 года назад

      @@Nosirrbro wrong. What device are you using right now ?

    • @busterbeagle2167
      @busterbeagle2167 3 года назад

      @Tom R supply TRIES to meet demand

  • @What_was_wrong_w_jst_our_names
    @What_was_wrong_w_jst_our_names 3 года назад +11

    It’s not the failing of the parachute to open that kills you. It’s the hitting the ground at a high rate of speed.

    • @LeScratch89
      @LeScratch89 3 года назад +6

      "If your parachute fails, you have your whole life to figure it out."

    • @diggymgee
      @diggymgee 3 года назад

      "Guns don't kill people, people kill people!"

    • @justayoutuber1906
      @justayoutuber1906 3 года назад

      @@diggymgee loss of blood pressure kills people

  • @vespermace
    @vespermace 3 года назад +6

    As a Civil Engineering student trying to get through my hydraulics modules, please come lecture us, our current lecturer is just obsessed with is postgrad students :/

  • @VICTORdoomm
    @VICTORdoomm 3 года назад

    My new job has a lot to do with pumps, flow rate, differential pressure
    These videos have helped me tons, thank you for making these fun and entertaining

  • @derekjp6043
    @derekjp6043 Год назад

    As a commercial pool tech, this was wonderful information. Thank you!!

  • @AlecInstant
    @AlecInstant 3 года назад +7

    Lol, you look so happy during the filming of this. I want to know more about pumps. How big do pumps get?

    • @camilo312312
      @camilo312312 3 года назад +2

      According to Guiness the largest water pump is the 4MW Nijhuis HP1-4000.340 Monster

    • @railenthusiast88
      @railenthusiast88 3 года назад

      Pump storage power stations must be up there on the larger end.

    • @allencasey6981
      @allencasey6981 3 года назад

      How big? Very.

  • @musschootski
    @musschootski 3 года назад +10

    You should say: "Pumps impart energy on the fluid they interact with."

  • @joshuaalan7580
    @joshuaalan7580 3 года назад +13

    "It's not the volts that kills you, it's the amps - the voltage just assists in determining how effectively those amps are in fact killing you"

    • @7784000
      @7784000 3 года назад

      No but the voltage determines the Current that is running through your boody as long as the power supply can deliver the current while the current is also determined by your bodys resistance.

    • @heyhoe168
      @heyhoe168 3 года назад +6

      It's not the volts that kills you, it's ignorance.

    • @seraphina985
      @seraphina985 3 года назад

      @@7784000 But still the fact remains the voltage determines the current that flows. Of course, the voltage can and absolutely will change if connections within the circuit change as this will disrupt the distribution of charges within the circuit. Sure this will be more noticeable if the sink being added or removed is large compared to the sources within the circuit. This is of course why voltage will drop sharply if the charge is being provided by a relatively limited source compared to how much current is able to flow through the new sink as the source simply cannot maintain the charge at that rate of charge dissipation.

    • @jonka1
      @jonka1 3 года назад

      Not exactly, the voltage determines how many amps are killing you.

  • @sleeper1855
    @sleeper1855 Год назад

    Excellent visuals - the beakers at different heights does a great job showing the varied pressure

  • @SilentNightttt
    @SilentNightttt 3 года назад

    Seriously one of the best channels on RUclips with easy to digest videos that are concise and very well made. Thank you sir.

  • @brown56765
    @brown56765 3 года назад +7

    His "I love pumps" has some mad "I live refrigerators" energy XD

    • @millomweb
      @millomweb 3 года назад

      That's cos they be heat pumps ;)

  • @specific_pseudonym
    @specific_pseudonym 3 года назад +28

    "Internet pump enthusiast"
    ...yes, there are a lot of those out there XD

    • @timseguine2
      @timseguine2 3 года назад

      I think we are the wrong video site for that though

    • @ericv00
      @ericv00 3 года назад

      @@timseguine2 You might be surprised.

  • @michaelmolter6180
    @michaelmolter6180 3 года назад +5

    Becoming an engineer (through school and work) is partially a process of locating and correcting false intuitions. This is definitely one of those. The closer you get, the less often system behavior surprises you.

  • @stevenmiller2837
    @stevenmiller2837 3 года назад

    Enjoyed the video! As a Merchant Marine deck officer, I learned about pumps mostly with an eye towards tanker operations (and ballast operations).

  • @ramirogonzalez7063
    @ramirogonzalez7063 Год назад

    This is a great video. I'm trying to get back what I use to work companies like Aqua and Barnes. I had a stroke, and now I'm trying to remember all I used to know. Thanks again.